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0:00Women shouldn't vote. It sounds like a
0:03joke, but that's what's being debated
0:04on social media today. Historically,
0:06citizenship was defined as a universal,
0:09abstract, and unified concept, where
0:11everyone should be considered as
0:13citizens under equal conditions. But
0:16the truth is that in practice,
0:18citizenship is defined by the masculine
0:20, and that's where these old or new
0:22discourses from the old or new
0:24right-wing come in, wanting to take
0:26away women's right to vote. Because
0:29when we women exercise our full
0:31citizenship exactly as we see fit, we
0:33begin to be perceived by others as a
0:34source of danger. Hello, my lanteris.
0:37This video is a little different from
0:38the rest because it's like an
0:40unscripted medium. I wanted to bring
0:42you a more complete analysis, but the
0:44truth is that life passes me by. I'm
0:47making a lot of videos and it seemed to
0:48me that this was a topic that gave more
0:50room for opinions than for providing
0:51historical context, because I have a
0:53lot of videos talking about women's
0:55rights achievements, feminist movements
0:56, and suffragettes. So I feel like if I
0:59made a video about this in depth, it
1:01would be a bit repetitive. So, what I'm
1:04really looking for is a reflection on
1:06this topic that's been talked about a
1:08lot on social media, where basically
1:10sectors of the American right are
1:12questioning women's right to vote like
1:14they did 100 years ago, which clearly
1:16shows us that no right that's been won
1:18is guaranteed; because, as Simón de
1:20Boboa said, there's going to be an
1:22economic, social, and political crisis
1:24so that women's rights are questioned
1:26again, and in this case, a right that
1:28we achieved two days ago, that is, just
1:31100 years ago. Now, what's the argument
1:33of these new right-wingers to say that
1:35women shouldn't vote? Basically, what
1:37these people are saying is that women
1:39vote badly. What would voting badly
1:41mean? Voting for the left, for
1:43progressivism. What they argue is that
1:46women are not making good decisions
1:48because statistically, worldwide, women
1:51tend to vote more for progressive
1:53governments and men vote more for
1:55traditional conservative proposals. So,
1:58within traditional right-wing sectors,
2:00we women are viewed as a danger because
2:02we choose to vote in a way that is
2:03different from what they expect. If you
2:05want, I have a video where I go into
2:07more depth about what the right and the
2:08left are. I will probably leave it at
2:10the end of this video because it will
2:12be somewhat related. But anyway,
2:13basically 100 years ago it was said
2:15that women should not vote supposedly
2:17because we did not have autonomy and
2:19today it is said that women should not
2:21vote because we are misusing that
2:23autonomy. When women obeyed our
2:25husbands, it was said that our vote was
2:27unnecessary and now that women do what
2:29we want, it is said that our vote is
2:31wrong. As I was saying, a while ago, I
2:36am going to leave you with a clip of
2:38Erika Kirk, who openly says freedom of
2:41expression, making use and abuse of
2:42freedom of expression, she says that
2:44women should not vote. This proposal
3:06first appeared within sectors of the
3:08new American radical right, Christian
3:10nationalism, and, of course, the
3:12broader digital manosphere. Sometimes
3:14when I see these things I feel like
3:16we're living in an episode of The Voice
3:18. I don't know if you've seen the
3:19series The Boys, but I feel like we're
3:21in the last season of The Voice, that
3:23is, when the series gets closer to
3:24reality or reality gets closer to
3:26fiction. And here I would like to
3:28propose the first contradiction that I
3:29feel when talking about these things,
3:31because it happens that the people who
3:33are talking about this that women
3:34should not vote are three crazy cats. I
3:36mean, well, not three crazy cats, but
3:38they are not a majority. The thing is
3:41that by reacting to people saying this
3:42we are giving it more airtime because
3:44maybe if no one had talked about the
3:46stupidity that Ericaa Kirk said, I
3:48would have died on a podcast of
3:49American Christian nationalists. But by
3:51making this video I am giving it more
3:53impact. That creates a contradiction
3:56for me, but at the same time I say,
3:58well, we shouldn't underestimate them
3:59because that's how many right-wing
4:01governments started out,
4:02underestimating them and they couldn't
4:03be stopped in time. And I'm talking
4:06about a panelist who became president
4:07saying absurd things on TV. I mean,
4:10we're not dealing with a legislative
4:11project, it's not like the Americans
4:13presented an amendment to the
4:14Constitution saying that women
4:15shouldn't vote, but they could do so at
4:17any time. They're introducing the issue
4:19. So that's where I say, well, then
4:22it's important to talk about this
4:23because we also have to be informed
4:25because it's possible that in the blink
4:27of an eye, you'll come across someone
4:28saying that women can't vote. I mean,
4:31it's not just an isolated joke. I mean,
4:34it started as an isolated joke, but I
4:35think it's important to keep talking
4:37about it because in reality there's a
4:38lot behind why the right says that
4:40women shouldn't vote. There's a reading
4:43of society, there's a way of organizing
4:44a new world that sneaks in, let's say,
4:46into this argument that seems super
4:48extreme. Issues and preconceptions are
4:52beginning to take hold that, in the
4:54case of women, put us at a huge
4:55disadvantage compared to men and that
4:57will cause us to regress in many
4:59acquired rights. Well, I'm going to be
5:02very brief about how we acquired these
5:04rights, because it's very important to
5:06understand that these rights were not
5:08originally conceived as universal, but
5:10rather were created excluding women.
5:15There's a very entrenched idea that
5:17when we talk about democracy, we think
5:19of this, justice, inclusion,
5:20governments that incorporate men and
5:22women equally. And the truth is that
5:25all democracies were born excluding
5:27women from the very beginning, let's
5:29say, of the French Revolution, for
5:31example, where the citizen was
5:33conceived based on characteristics
5:35associated with masculinity, the rights
5:38of men and of the citizen. I have a
5:40video talking about Simon de Go, I hope
5:42I pronounced it correctly, a woman who,
5:45during the French Revolution, argued
5:47precisely that the notion of
5:49citizenship was being created based on
5:51men and excluding women. If you want,
5:54you can go and see it, but it is
5:55important to say that our same
5:57democracy proposed the ideal citizen as
5:59a man. Later, women were incorporated
6:02into that concept of basic citizen, but
6:05not as an individual subject, let's say
6:07, but as an accessory to what was
6:09understood to be a male citizen,
6:11because in its origins, men were
6:13thought of as political citizens of the
6:15public space and women as those in
6:18charge of reproduction, domestic care
6:20of the private space. So, from the very
6:24beginning of modern states, it was
6:25thought that women were destined for
6:27the private space and men for the
6:29public space. Therefore, when women
6:32were incorporated into the public space
6:34, they were not thought of as
6:35individual subjects, but as an annex,
6:37as well, you have the man and the woman
6:39who had to adapt to the mental and
6:41conceptual structure of a male citizen.
6:44This makes me reflect, how could a
6:46woman who was being subordinated to the
6:48family and to domestic work possibly be
6:51considered a citizen on equal terms
6:53with a man? I mean, from the outset, we
6:55cannot think of them as equals. But
6:57well, it is within these paradoxes that
6:59feminism of the 19th century and part
7:01of the 20th century had to operate in
7:03order to try to build a feminine
7:05identity within a concept of
7:06citizenship, but which at the same time
7:08recognized the particularities of being
7:10a woman in a sexist and patriarchal
7:12society. Now, why did these people say
7:15that women could not vote? Because we
7:17know that women's suffrage is something
7:19very recent, that is, as I say, it was
7:20100 years ago. And the arguments that
7:23were put forward so that women could
7:25not vote, today we may think of them as
7:27exaggerated or extreme, but they are
7:28very much connected to these issues of
7:30the new right. One of the main
7:32arguments was that women did not have
7:34to vote because their husbands already
7:36voted for them, because this issue was
7:38understood that society could be
7:40divided into families, that the core of
7:42society was the family and not the
7:44individual. So, one vote per family.
7:46How does the husband vote? Of course,
7:48women will want to vote just like their
7:50husbands, which is a bit like the
7:52argument used by Erik Kirk, this
7:54American woman, that the husband votes
7:57on behalf of the family; which puts us
7:59in a position of male subordination, we
8:01are once again placed in that role of
8:03woman in private space and man in
8:05public space. But anyway, that was an
8:07argument from more than 100 years ago
8:09and it is still used now. Later it was
8:11also said that women should not vote
8:13because we were too emotional or too
8:15stupid. This is a biological argument
8:17that prevailed, that was present until
8:19the middle of the 20th century, which
8:21proposed that women could not vote
8:23because our brains are smaller. It
8:25basically said that women, having a
8:27smaller brain, this kind of Lombrosian
8:29argument, if you will, made us less
8:31intelligent and more emotional. So, we
8:33could not understand the complexity of
8:35politics because we were stupid and
8:37emotional, we were going to end up
8:39crying in the Senate. Another argument
8:41used by the new right wing that puts us
8:43in an emotional place. Finally, it was
8:46thought that politics could corrupt
8:47women, that if women occupied a place
8:49in politics they would neglect their
8:51duties as mothers, that if women went
8:53out into the streets to demand rights
8:54they would neglect their husbands, who
8:56would take care of those poor little
8:58children. Because a woman who voted had
9:01to inform herself, she could argue with
9:03her husband, she could join groups and
9:05she could demand other rights. So, if
9:08women were given the opportunity to
9:10participate in the public sphere, she
9:11would neglect her place as women. So,
9:14something changed when women entered
9:17politics. When women were given the
9:22opportunity to vote, let's say, already
9:25in the 20th century, when women began
9:27to vote and also to be voted for, of
9:29course something changed in politics,
9:31because when we were represented we
9:33began to reflect the concerns, needs
9:35and demands of women themselves. When
9:39women enter the political arena, they
9:41obviously begin to express concerns
9:43related to the reality of being a woman
9:45, such as motherhood, the right to
9:47abortion, sex education, gender
9:48violence, the gender gap, motherhood,
9:50and care. Obviously, when women occupy
9:54these spaces, as deputies, councilors,
9:56senators, let's say, when they find a
9:58space for representation in the space,
10:00in the state apparatus, we begin to
10:03express what demands or issues we see
10:05as urgent as women. That, of course,
10:07made many men uncomfortable, who did
10:09not see parallels or empathize with or
10:11understand the urgency of these demands
10:12, accompanied, of course, by a sexist
10:14and patriarchal issue where it is
10:16thought that women are stupid, that we
10:17serve ourselves, and so on. In other
10:20words, from the outset, when women
10:21enter politics, we begin to cause
10:23discomfort. Of course, we do not only
10:25cause discomfort in politics, but we
10:27also cause discomfort because many
10:29began to think that we neglect
10:31household chores by participating in
10:33public. But well, things started to
10:35settle down a bit over the course of
10:37the 20th century. Although it is not an
10:39ideal scenario, it gradually settled
10:41down and over time this trend began to
10:44emerge where women tend to vote for
10:46governments that are more aware of us,
10:48that perhaps reflect our concerns more,
10:50because obviously the reality of women
10:52and men is very different. Women, of
10:56course, are much more exposed to the
10:58gender pay gap, to violence, to
11:00subordination. So, we tend to vote, and
11:03this has been studied, let's say, there
11:05are studies that support this, we tend
11:07to vote for governments that at least
11:10listen to our demands. This is where
11:12these new right-wing groups raise the
11:14issue of resentment. A part of this new
11:17right-wing group argues that the
11:19advances that feminism has made have
11:21been to the detriment of men's rights.
11:24They view these women as a direct
11:25threat to the rights of all men. They
11:28argue that if women gain authority, men
11:30will lose it. If women report violence,
11:33men lose their presumption of innocence
11:35. If women are allowed to work, men
11:38lose their role as providers. If they
11:40can get divorced, men lose control over
11:42the family. If they decide about their
11:45sexuality, men lose the ability to
11:47reproduce. What the new right-wingers
11:49propose is that these women who tend to
11:52vote for more progressive governments
11:54are a threat to the institution of the
11:56family, to society, but above all to
11:58men. These women who support these
12:01measures are like the extreme version
12:03of a pic, in other words, they only
12:06want to please the male. But I will go
12:08into this later. Do you remember that
12:10in other videos I talked about the
12:11concept of patriarchal balance? A
12:13concept that proposes that the more
12:16rights women gain, right? That the
12:18scale is trying to be balanced between
12:20the rights of men and women, the more
12:22men will find a way to tip it in their
12:23favor. I mean, men as a concept, right?
12:26As an abstract concept, right? Your
12:28neighbor is going to try to sway things
12:30even more in their favor. So, women are
12:32gaining our rights, women are able to
12:33vote, and women are now able to make
12:35demands. Well, a way is going to appear
12:37to try to stop that progress precisely
12:39so that the scales do not tip. In this
12:42issue of male resentment, there is like
12:44a double resentment from women, not
12:46only for, uh, bothering and wanting,
12:49let's say, to tip the patriarchal
12:51scales in their favor, but there is
12:53also hatred and resentment from women
12:55who question the traditional role that
12:58was assigned to them. In this new trend
13:01of "trad" and, let's say, this more
13:03traditional and more conservative issue
13:05of women, it is...let's say, hatred is
13:07directed toward these more progressive
13:09women because they are questioning what
13:11, according to them, is natural,
13:12natural and above all divine, because
13:14here Catholic Christian logic gets in
13:16the way, but that deserves a separate
13:18video. In other words, a woman who
13:21votes badly is not only a woman with an
13:23erroneous ideology for them, but she is
13:25directly a woman who is doing things
13:27wrong as a woman. And here is where
13:29this role of good woman and bad woman
13:30begins to play out in order to break
13:32with the solidarity networks that have
13:34historically sustained us as women. If
13:36you are the ideal woman, the good wife,
13:37the one who does things right, your
13:39neighbor, the one who goes out to ask
13:40for the right to abortion, is the woman
13:42who does things wrong. Stay away from
13:44that woman. This makes a lot of sense
13:47in terms of how patriarchy works,
13:49because in a video, the video I
13:50uploaded last week, I think, I
13:52mentioned that Gerda Learner argues
13:54that we are the women who make
13:55patriarchy work; because as long as we
13:57are functional to that system, the
13:59system will not collapse. So this issue
14:03of dividing bad woman and woman,
14:05precisely aims to prevent solidarity
14:07networks from being formed, to break
14:09with sisterhood and thus be able to
14:11maintain a system that continues to
14:13benefit men. I insist, when I say men,
14:15I am not talking about you, who may be
14:17a man watching this video, but about
14:19the concept. Here I remember a lot my
14:21friend Pau Jiménez, I'm Fermina here
14:22on YouTube, you can go and watch her,
14:24she has this really funny thing about a
14:26button that says not all men, when she
14:28says things like that she says, "Not
14:29all men." Eh, she's probably already
14:32made a video about this these days
14:34because all the feminists are talking
14:36about this, so without having seen that
14:38video I recommend it. But here I still
14:40have the question of why there are
14:42women who support these types of ideas.
14:46The first thing I'm going to say is
14:48that we don't have to reduce them to
14:50being idiots. The first thing that
14:52comes to mind is that they're crazy,
14:54they're kind of stupid, they're macho,
14:56but I'm reproducing a paternalistic
14:58view of them. I'm underestimating them
15:00and the truth is that I shouldn't
15:02underestimate them because they're
15:03still women with slightly erroneous
15:05criteria, in my opinion, but I wouldn't
15:07underestimate them, I wouldn't say, I
15:08wouldn't minimize them. Many authors, I
15:11also talked about this in a video, I
15:12don't even remember when (I think it
15:14was on Women's Day), propose this issue
15:16that there are many women who, in some
15:18way, seek male protection,
15:19understanding the logic of this system
15:21in which we live: that men, of course,
15:23will always have more rights, will have
15:25a privileged position. So, many women
15:28act in this way to guarantee themselves
15:30some type of protection and survival.
15:33Others also propose the concept of
15:35patriarchal negotiation where they say
15:37like, "Okay, we're never going to win
15:38the fight, well, let's give up
15:40something, I'll give you the female
15:41vote, which seems like a lot to me in
15:43exchange for such and such." I say, "
15:46I'm trying to understand them. I can't
15:48understand them, but well, I'm trying
15:50to understand them because I don't want
15:51to underestimate them." But well, it's
15:53here in this patriarchal negotiation
15:55where the concept of tradife fits
15:57perfectly, these women who are devoted
15:58to men. Something here also bothers me
16:01a lot. Well, we live in a world of
16:02contradictions. It bothers me a lot to
16:05think that these women who make so many
16:07odes and so many claims for women in
16:10private spaces, that is, in the home,
16:12but show it on social media, which is
16:14the most public thing there is. But
16:23well, another contradiction that I also
16:26like about the concept of tradition is,
16:28let's say, this issue of the
16:29traditional family. But what
16:31traditional family? A rich traditional
16:34family. Because if we are going to
16:36idealize this traditional family of the
16:3819th century, you are going to do it
16:39with a rich family, because if it is a
16:41poor family, I mean, they show you a
16:43Christmas in the countryside with their
16:45ducks, with their geese, their chickens
16:47, their cows, I don't know what. They
16:49are rich, they are rich women. I mean,
16:50if we are going to see how a woman
16:52lived in the year 1800, she had no
16:54teeth, she had died in childbirth, she
16:56was missing a finger, she was starving.
16:58In fact, I have this, it looks like
17:00it's a video for recommending videos,
17:02but I do have a video from a series I
17:04started called All Times Past Was
17:06Better, where I wonder about the
17:07idealization we have of the past, and I
17:10think the second part of the series
17:11will be out in two weeks. But anyway, I
17:14find this idealization of the past that
17:15the Strat Wife has funny. I would
17:17actually like to tell you what past it
17:19was, because if you had been a woman in
17:20the 1800s, you wouldn't have had teeth,
17:22sister. But anyway, to wrap up this
17:24video that turned out a bit chaotic, as
17:26I say, I didn't make a script like I
17:28usually do when I start reading, but
17:30these are my own ideas, not just loose
17:32ideas. But anyway, I felt like making
17:34this video. I would like to address one
17:36last thing, one last thing, which is an
17:38idea that is easy to fall into, let's
17:41say, as a feminist woman, which is that
17:43the new right-wingers propose that
17:45women vote badly. Also, we must not
17:48fall into the line of thought that no,
17:49women always vote correctly. Obviously,
17:52as a progressive feminist woman, I
17:54think that if women vote more for
17:56progressive governments, we are voting
17:58for the right thing. But there is a
18:00trap in thinking that, because thinking
18:02that women vote the right way is to
18:04think that there is a bad way to vote,
18:06and in reality there are no good or bad
18:07ways to vote. You vote, period.
18:09Portraying women as those who vote well
18:12and men as those who vote badly can be
18:14dangerous. First, because it
18:16essentializes women. It makes us think
18:18that we are naturally better and more
18:20kind, which is a danger we can fall
18:22into: portraying ourselves as more
18:24empathetic beings. Which we probably
18:27are, but that is not an essential issue
18:28for women, rather that is how society
18:30constructs who we are as women. This
18:33logic also hides conservative women and
18:35makes us think that women are a
18:37homogeneous mass, and the most
18:38dangerous thing is that it turns voting
18:41into a reward for having behaved well.
18:43It can lead us to, I don't know, think
18:45things like, "It's a bad thing that
18:46women can vote because they are the
18:47ones who vote well." And it's kind of
18:49dangerous to think like that because if
18:51we say that women should vote because
18:52we choose, I don't know, more
18:54progressive options, it can lead us to
18:55think that if we stop choosing
18:57progressive options then we should stop
18:58voting. And that's not the case. Women
19:00should vote because we are citizens.
19:02Period. Ultimately, it makes you think
19:04citizenship is conditional: you can
19:06vote if you vote right, you can speak
19:08if you're not too aggressive, you can
19:10work if you keep caring for your kids,
19:12and you can hold positions as long as
19:13you do not question the rules. Do you
19:15understand? In other words, taken to
19:17the extreme it is a dangerous argument.
19:19Well, I hope this video has helped you
19:21to spark some ideas, because the idea
19:22of this video is not precisely to bring
19:24you information or a historical
19:26analysis like in other videos, but
19:27rather an opinion and perhaps some
19:29arguments to continue debating these
19:30things. I believe that the main, most
19:33dangerous thing about this type of
19:35discourse is to suggest that the
19:36problem is women, when in reality the
19:38danger is the way in which we
19:40understand democracy as a kind of
19:41reward that can be conditioned or not
19:43according to your behavior. I honestly
19:46fear for the world we live in, I won't
19:48deny it, I'm afraid of the extremes
19:50we're reaching, but anyway, I think
19:52videos like these contribute to
19:54dialogue a bit, they can serve as a
19:56tool. In last week's video on
19:58Friendship Day, I said something like
20:00one of the patriarchy's strategies to
20:03take away our tools for fighting is not
20:05telling us our story in order to, on
20:07the one hand, not inspire us and, on
20:09the other hand, not let us understand
20:11why the system is unfair. So I believe
20:14that talking about these issues is a
20:16way of seeking equality, it's a way of
20:19building an identity, a tool for
20:21fighting to confront these policies and
20:23these new right-wing discourses. If
20:26anyone has watched The Voice, I feel
20:27like we're in The Voys. Having said all
20:29this, you can let me know what you
20:30think in the comments, which is very
20:32important to me because you may
20:33disagree, because this is me giving
20:35ideas about what I think today. Maybe
20:36in a few weeks I'll think differently.
20:38Or maybe I'll suddenly become a
20:39libertarian. No, well, but I can, I
20:43don't know, uh, it's me thinking out
20:44loud. Leave me a like, brother, all
20:46those things in the comments. See you
20:49next Monday with a completely unrelated
20:51video. I've uploaded many feminist
20:53videos. I'm going to upload a video
20:55that may have nothing to do with it,
20:56that has more to do with the Latin
20:58American reality, but hey, feminist and
21:00colonial above all, see you next Monday
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