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Lance Armstrong ADMITS to Doping! I told you back in 2010 he was a doper. — Transcript

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0:00good evening everyone it's 10 o'clock
0:01here in the east coast and we begin as
0:02we do every night keeping them honest
0:03looking for facts not trying to offer
0:05opinions or play favorites not
0:06supporting one political side or another
0:08you can get that on plenty of other news
0:09channels we're just looking for facts
0:11finding the truth calling out hypocrisy
0:13and there's no bigger example of that
0:14tonight of hypocrisy or possibly ever in
0:17the history of sports than what happened
0:19to American Icon Lance Armstrong in the
0:21last 24 hours he cheated he lied about
0:24it for years and years and now he's
0:25reportedly coming clean somewhat how
0:28much did Lance Armstrong say in the
0:30interview he just taped with Oprah
0:31Winfrey he reportedly admits to using
0:34performance-enhancing drugs to win
0:36bicycle races and Oprah says he was
0:38quote pretty forthcoming but that he did
0:40not come clean in the manner she
0:42expected exactly what that means is not
0:44clear Oprah's too good to give it all
0:47away I choose not to characterize I
0:50would rather um people make their own
0:53decisions about whether he was contrite
0:55or not I I I felt that he was thoughtful
0:58I thought that he was serious I thought
1:00that he certainly had prepared himself
1:06for this moment I would say that he met
1:09the moment and at the end of it um two
1:12and a half literally 2 and a half hours
1:14we we both were pretty exhausted and um
1:18I I would say I was satisfied well
1:20whatever ultimately made it to tape and
1:22we won't know till later this week
1:23longtime followers of Armstrong say they
1:25are not ready to take anything he says
1:27that face value reporters teammates even
1:29one time friends they all describe the
1:31seven time torto France winner cancer
1:33survivor and charity founder as a born
1:35manipulator who do whatever it takes for
1:37only one person Lance Armstrong keeping
1:40him honest they point to a record of
1:41lying that Rivals his record of winning
1:45we're sick and tired of these
1:46allegations and we're going to do
1:47everything we can uh to fight them
1:50they're absolutely untrue I've said it
1:52for seven years I've said it for longer
1:53than seven years I have never doped I
1:56can say it again but I've said it for
1:58seven years it doesn't help how could it
1:59have taken place when I've never taken
2:02performance in missing drugs go back to
2:041995 one of your former teammates Steven
2:06schwart he was riding with you he a kiwi
2:09on the Motorola team he has told ESPN on
2:11the record and on camera that back in
2:13'95 when the team was struggling that
2:15you announced to the team that you were
2:17going to begin doping and you were
2:18encouraging other teammates to do the
2:20same what do you say to that account now
2:22again complete nonsense if it can't be
2:24any clearer then I've never taken drugs
2:27then incidents like that could never
2:29have happened why would I then enter
2:31into a sport and dope myself up and risk
2:33my life again that's crazy I would never
2:34do that that's no no way my case I mean
2:38I came out of a of a life-threatening
2:40disease I was on my deathbed you think
2:41I'm going to come back into a sport and
2:42say okay okay doctor give me everything
2:44you got I just want to go fast no way
2:47would never do that that was Lance
2:50Armstrong denying it all time and time
2:51again since then US anti-doping agency
2:54has put out more than a thousand pages
2:56of allegations and evidence against
2:58Armstrong and his teammates calling AR
2:59Armstrong's drug ring the most
3:01sophisticated in the history of sports
3:03he's been stripped of his seven tour to
3:05France titles barred from competition
3:07has stepped down from the Liv strong
3:08charity that he founded and until now
3:10he's denied everything not only that as
3:12you'll see he's got a long history of
3:14lashing out at people who tried to
3:16expose him the people who dared to
3:17suggest Armstrong was on something other
3:19than his bike that was in many cases a
3:22brave stance to take because in almost
3:24every case it was followed by a Lance
3:25Armstrong sponsored scorched Earth Earth
3:28campaign Lance how you feel Frankie
3:30andreo would have once described Lance
3:32Armstrong as one of his closest friends
3:34they were teammates in the 1990s Frankie
3:36and his wife Betsy frequently socialized
3:38with Armstrong this picture shows the
3:40three of them cooking dinner together in
3:431995 but in what would become a familiar
3:45patter and Armstrong turned on the
3:47andreos after they testified in 2006
3:50lawsuit alleging Armstrong used
3:53performance enhancing drugs Armstrong
3:55vehemently denied the charges and it
3:58didn't stop there Betsy andreo says
4:00Armstrong vilified her in the Press
4:03calling her vindictive and jealous and
4:05portrayed her husband as bitter because
4:07his cycling contract with Armstrong's
4:09team was not renewed after the 2000
4:11season and then there was this a
4:14voicemail left for Betsy andreo in 2008
4:17by a friend and Associate of Armstrong I
4:19hope for me break some baseball that
4:21over your head but I also hope that one
4:24day you have adversity in your life and
4:27you have some type of tragedy
4:30it's pathetic Betsy I thought you were a
4:33better person than that Betsy andreo
4:36provided the voicemail to the New York
4:38daily news as evidence of the threats
4:40and intimidation she says they suffered
4:42and then there's Greg Lamont the only
4:44American to win the world's most
4:46grueling race before Armstrong went on
4:48his string of seven straight wins the
4:51relationship between the two men was
4:52anything but close especially after
4:55lemon questioned Armstrong's association
4:57with a controversial Italian doctor
4:59named micheli Ferrari Frankie andreo
5:02said Armstrong was clearly upset at Lem
5:05man's comments and in an affidavit
5:07andreo said I recall Lance saying words
5:10the effect of who does Greg think he is
5:12talking about Ferrari I'm going to take
5:14him down and he did Armstrong had great
5:18influence with the bike sponsor Tre
5:20which dropped its support of the lon
5:22brand damaging Lem man's bike
5:25business Armstrong also intimidated his
5:27critics and Rivals during competition
5:30in the 2004 tour to France Armstrong
5:33comfortably held the Race's overall lead
5:35but surprised everyone when he chased
5:37down philipo Simeone why it turned out
5:40it was only to punish Simeone to prove a
5:43point Simeone had crossed Armstrong in
5:46the past by testifying against Dr
5:48Ferrari about doping Armstrong publicly
5:51called Simeone a liar and told him
5:53privately he could quote destroy him
5:56after catching him this gesture from
5:57Armstrong during the race was is widely
6:00seen to be directed towards Simeone a
6:02warning to stay silent former teammate
6:05Tyler Hamilton followed a Code of
6:07Silence and lied about doping until this
6:0960 Minutes interview in 2011 you saw
6:13Lance Armstrong inject
6:16[Music]
6:17EPO yeah like we all
6:20did like I did many many times after
6:24that interview aired Hamilton began to
6:26cooperate with a federal investigation
6:28into Armstrong he was physically
6:30accosted by Armstrong inside a
6:32restaurant according to an affidavit and
6:34Armstrong told Hamilton he'd make his
6:36life a living hell why would they say
6:38these things in interview with ESPN
6:40Armstrong was asked about his former
6:42friends teammates and Associates who
6:44testified about his doping he had only
6:46this to say I've surrounded myself with
6:49at times um questionable people and and
6:52I've not in the past been great with
6:54when when you know when Riders leave
6:56teams or relationships end uh perhaps I
6:59haven't hand that properly and and I
7:00admit that freely and and and personally
7:03people hate that uh I would hate it too
7:06um but you know why people would lie and
7:08tell stories I mean some of them
7:09obviously were paid some of them uh had
7:12other motives that's that's
7:14clear so he's lying there you heard a
7:16bit from Tyler Hamilton there he and
7:18Daniel Coyle have
7:29time sports writer Juliet
7:32mcer Danielle what I don't understand
7:34really is why Armstrong is doing this
7:37now because just a few months ago he had
7:39a chance to avoid lifetime banishment
7:40the US Ada had invited him to come clean
7:44to be part of the solution he turned
7:45them down flat so what happened between
7:48then and now what changed this is a
7:50perfect lens into the way Lance's brain
7:52works he's really good at figuring out
7:55complex situations looking at them in a
7:56very binary way and figuring out a path
7:58forward you know it's not about being
8:00consistent with him it's about winning
8:02and that brain is really built for that
8:04so at this point he figured the best
8:06path forward was to go to Oprah and
8:08that's what he's doing but the problem
8:10that he faces is that you can win the
8:12Tour to France but it's hard to win a
8:13confession that has to do with genuine
8:15feeling it has to do with Contrition but
8:18Juliet I mean you were saying that the
8:19most important thing to remember is that
8:21Armstrong is an athlete that he's not in
8:23this to say sorry or clean up cycling or
8:25help charity he wants to compete in
8:27competitions and he can't do that now
8:30exactly I think the difference between
8:31several months ago and now is that he's
8:34had several months of no competition and
8:36for a guy like Lance Armstrong that must
8:37be torture he's been a athlete since
8:39he's just been little kid like a
8:41teenager he was a professional
8:42triathlete and really barely finished
8:45high school because of his Triathlon
8:47career and he's had a lot of time to
8:49think about how he is lonely how he
8:52doesn't have the agulation of fans at
8:53the finish line and he has nobody to
8:55beat right now and it's driving him nuts
8:57and Roger legally I mean there's a whole
9:00bunch of reasons why he should not have
9:01done this
9:03right yeah I you know I I hear what your
9:05what the other guests are saying but as
9:07a lawyer this it goes against everything
9:09that I know and I'm you know I'm not the
9:11only one that knows the liability he's
9:13facing he has wonderful lawyers who have
9:15given him advice over the years but he's
9:17looking at in excess if everything goes
9:19wrong of judgments in excess of perhaps
9:22$100 million I am still waiting to
9:24actually see what he see how much he
9:26really confesses and what he confesses
9:29too legally I mean what is who does he
9:32owe money to if he's uh I mean depending
9:35on who decides to sue him or currently
9:37who's suing him well there's a
9:39whistleblowers lawsuit that's going on
9:41right now that uh Floyd Landis has
9:44brought and that the justice department
9:46may join and that has to do with all of
9:48the money he got from the US Postal
9:50Service um and the question is did he
9:53get it under false pretenses because
9:54under his contract he said that he would
9:56do nothing that would bring him
9:57embarrassment and not use drugs
9:59and so if he gets up and admits that he
10:02breached that contract uh Under The
10:04Whistleblower statute he not only has to
10:06pay back all the money he has he has
10:08taken uh but could get hit with treble
10:10damages which means three times the
10:12amount of money he's taken it is pretty
10:14go ahead this is what makes Lance Lance
10:17he likes risk this is why he succeeded
10:19in this very corrupt world of cycling
10:21for so long it's why as we describe in
10:23our book they were smuggling bags of
10:25blood underneath dog kennels into the
10:27tour they were giving transfusions on
10:28the bus bus during the tour he doesn't
10:31shy away from a risk and that's what
10:33this is and he's made the calculation
10:34he's got a net worth over $100 million
10:36he probably won't lose all of it I mean
10:38you think he's going to have to pay back
10:40some of these lawsuit he'll pay back
10:41some he'll settle I mean the government
10:42usually settles these sort of cases the
10:44rest of them often can settle so let's
10:46say he loses 50 million bucks he's still
10:48got a fair amount he's not going to
10:50starve and he will more importantly have
10:52his narrative back have his his life as
10:54a competitive athlete back and the
10:56question is is he going to apologize to
10:58the people he heard along the way you
11:00know this we talk about this as if he's
11:01the only part of the story but in fact
11:04uh he's not he's the story is much
11:05bigger than just him I mean he's got
11:07great PR but but I mean as as you and I
11:09talked about before Juliet I mean he was
11:11a jerk to an awful lot of people I mean
11:13he sought to destroy people who had
11:16testified against him who had spoken the
11:18truth I think that jerk is an
11:20understatement I think a lot of those
11:22people I mean are devastated right now
11:25and I don't really know what to to think
11:27when he's calling some of these people
11:28up to apologize
11:29actually spoke to a few people that he's
11:31reached out to and they and they're like
11:34dumbfounded they don't know whether to
11:35believe him or not Julia did you see him
11:37threaten people reporters who reported
11:40things that he felt were
11:43inappropriate well I mean he's threaten
11:45lawsuits uh many many times against
11:47reporters including one that he actually
11:49won a Lial lawsuit uh against the Sunday
11:52Times of London when the writer David
11:54Walsh who was one of his earliest uh
11:57naysayers shall we say published some
11:58information
12:00in the paper that said that he adoped he
12:01won that lawsuit and of course the
12:03Sunday Times of London is asking for
12:04that money back right now but he was a
12:07master at intimidating people he had
12:09this great story going on he was a fairy
12:11tale story from the very first time he
12:13won the Tour to France and people were
12:14enamored with it that's including many
12:16of the journalists who were covering it
12:19and if anybody wrote anything that was
12:21negative he sometimes would call you on
12:23the phone in the morning yelling at you
12:25or criticizing you or he would actually
12:28blackball you and and not give you any
12:30interviews if you if you wrote anything
12:32negative and for a journalist who's who
12:35made their money or made their living
12:36covering cycling or covering Lance
12:38Armstrong to not get access to Lance
12:40that that meant they were dead in the
12:42water so he had a lot of power can he
12:44portray himself as just one of many
12:46people on his team who don't because I
12:48read an article in the times I think it
12:50was that seemed to indicate that was
12:51sort of the way he was going to spin
12:53this that he wasn't at the epicenter of
12:55this he can try he can try to do that
12:58but I think it's going to be
12:59difficult for him because of the
13:01Thousand pages of usada evidence that
13:03paint a very different picture because
13:04of the book The Secret race that paints
13:06a very different picture this is about
13:08power it's not really about drugs
13:09Armstrong wielded a tremendous amount of
13:12economic political sporting power and he
13:14used it ruthlessly cuz Lance Armstrong
13:16called the shots on that team I mean he
13:18was the star of the team everybody was
13:19there to make sure he won right he was
13:22the Tony Soprano they were literally
13:24extensions of his body you know their
13:26power was his power and that's how he
13:28used it and when you crossed him he cut
13:30you dead you were gone it's going to be
13:32interesting Juliet to see how he plays
13:34this this interview I mean they taped I
13:36guess for two and a half hours Oprah's
13:38going to air this o over two nights um
13:41and she said that she was prepared she
13:43had done a lot of reading she'd watched
13:44a lot of his interviews she was prepared
13:46to get very specific and found that she
13:49didn't have to do that if he denied one
13:51thing she would say well what about on
13:53page such and such of this book she said
13:55she didn't have to do that whether that
13:57means he got specific
13:59or I'm not sure how to read that do what
14:01do you think I think Oprah is great
14:03she's a she's a great businesswoman and
14:05a great interviewer I'm sure she
14:07prepared a lot for this interview but I
14:09guarantee you that Lance Armstrong
14:11prepared more he had about a dozen
14:13people telling him what to what to do
14:15what to say what to act I'm sure he went
14:17over and over in a mirror to to get the
14:19right facial expressions to find the
14:21right emotions I mean this is his his
14:24chance on turning his life around it's
14:26going to be fascinating to watch juliia
14:28MCC appreciate it Roger and Daniel Cole
14:30thank you so much thanks good night
14:32thank you let us know what

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