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0:13Hi everyone. Hi everyone. Happy Monday
0:16morning. This morning I received an
0:23email, I read an email from a follower
0:25who pointed out various blogs, eh,
0:27Italian and also American, on the major
0:36trend of spirituality that I’ve
0:38already spoken about in other videos. A
0:43quick preamble: I consider myself a
0:45spiritual person. I have never embraced
0:51a, let’s call it, metaphysical
0:53spirituality, but mine is a
0:55spirituality based on values, on
0:56connection with other people, on
0:58elements we could simply define as
1:00concrete. And the, eh, the podcasts and
1:11YouTube channels that this follower
1:13sent me are, however, of a completely
1:14different nature. Um, a nature, in my
1:23opinion, confusing, even dangerous,
1:25regarding this drift that the word
1:27spirituality is having in the hands of
1:34charlatans, effectively, who are using
1:40suggestive elements to, in fact,
1:45practice medicine and psychology
1:47without a license. But let me explain
1:52better, get ready because this morning
1:54I got quite angry since they sent me
1:56the exact clips from various podcasts.
2:04Well, the American ones are disturbing,
2:06and moreover, they belong to a
2:07disturbing right wing, but actually,
2:09the Italian ones are also quite
2:18dramatic in how they are laid out.
2:23Spirituality has by now become a
2:24business. Eh, I’ve already talked
2:29about it in another video, but I want
2:31to talk about it because there are
2:33major dangers for the people who are
2:34drawn into this subject, which more or
2:42less always follows the same narrative
2:44stages in all these Italian podcasts.
2:47They have reported at least eight to me
2:54, I think, some of which I knew, others
2:56were, are new. Um, but the narrative
3:02arc of these podcasts is more or less
3:04always the same. They start from a
3:09generic existential suffering. Um, they
3:13start from the evils of the world, eh,
3:16very generalized, very mannered, right?
3:20Eh, they almost never go into the
3:21substance of things. They talk about
3:27negative energies, about, about
3:29vocations, inspirations, beautiful
3:31words, however, bent toward making a
3:33suffering emerge in the listener, in
3:35the user of these podcasts. Then,
3:45inevitably, keywords are brought up
3:47like depression, anxiety, end of life,
3:50loneliness, loneliness, loneliness,
3:52depression, anxiety, loneliness, death.
4:01And clearly, they trigger mechanisms of
4:03suffering to which they then provide
4:09answers that, in effect, are medicines,
4:11are therapies. All these gurus,
4:19podcasters, will deny until the end of
4:21their days that they are providing
4:22therapeutic or medical interventions.
4:29Eh, they will deny it until the end,
4:31but they are doing it. They are doing
4:34it. They are cunningly drawn to
4:41psychological disciplines, to medicine,
4:43to neuroscience. Obviously, obviously,
4:51they show confidence in handling terms
4:53they don't know a damn thing about.
5:01Obviously you hear talk of dopamine,
5:03hormones, amygdala, things obviously
5:05combined, then linked to words like
5:08subtle energies, soul, the afterlife,
5:10UFOs, aliens, Atlantis, the whole
5:12heritage of that was cited in
5:14such a brilliant and admirable way in
5:16films like Ghostbusters, right? She
5:24believes in Atlantis, reincarnation,
5:27the transmigration of the soul, etc.,
5:29okay? That was the condition to become
5:32a Ghostbuster, right? Well, all these
5:37keywords are brought back, put back
5:39into play, right? And often combined
5:43with another word, with other more
5:45modern, more interesting words, right?
5:48Like meditation, psychedelics. Uh, so
5:55you have this mix, uh, self-fulfillment
5:58, personal growth, entrepreneurship, uh
6:00, and this whole crazy mess that is
6:02proposed as a solution to suffering.
6:13For heaven's sake, there wouldn't be,
6:15uh, there wouldn't be major problems
6:17with saying, until you get to,
6:19obviously, because you always end up
6:22there talking about depression, anxiety
6:24, depression, anxiety, mental health
6:26problems, etc., etc., etc. So, in fact,
6:28they claim not to have, uh, to have
6:31nothing to do with psychology and
6:33medicine, but they do. And even those
6:41who, in theory, every now and then come
6:43on and have the credentials to talk
6:45about psychology, about medicine, then
6:47obviously are almost naturally drawn
6:49into a vortex of atomic that
6:57dazes the listener and distances them
6:59from what are the correct approaches to
7:01issues of suffering and mental health,
7:02because that is the point. When we talk
7:08about spirituality now, we are talking
7:10about mental health. This is an
7:13equivalence that is now clear, taken
7:15for granted, implicit, but not even
7:17that much. Uh, esoteric, but not even
7:20that much, I'd say rather esoteric. Um,
7:25and this is a big problem because in
7:28all these contexts, one, uh, people are
7:36led away from what are the real
7:37approaches to mental and physical
7:39suffering, including the more
7:44sociological ones, okay? Because it's
7:47obvious that our mental health also
7:49depends on the environment, on our
7:50relationship with others. But the
7:57solutions I see presented in these
7:59podcasts, uh, the narrative structures
8:01are at the very least, um, aimed at
8:03suggestion, uh, at manipulating the
8:05listener. Uh, metaphors, allegories,
8:12moreover stuff as old as the hills that
8:14we've seen since the 60s remixed again
8:16and again and again. But why? Because
8:20it works, right? It's a little bit like
8:22what the Catholic Church does, right?
8:24It remixes the usual things based on
8:26the two great fears, right? That is, on
8:29the two great pain points in marketing,
8:31I'm tempted to say fear, ignorance, and
8:33suffering. Fear of death, physical
8:38suffering, existential suffering, all
8:40remixed, so we now find ourselves
8:42considering spirituality as something
8:44that must necessarily be linked to
8:46metaphysical spirituality. I repeat,
8:52metaphysical spirituality, because
8:54that's always where it leads, okay? Of
8:58course, you hear interesting talk about
9:00values, about ethics, and ethics and
9:02values are always placed in a context,
9:05in a metaphysical framework. So, we
9:10talk about UFOs, just like we talk
9:13about ethics, we talk about the soul,
9:15about ghosts. About ghosts. We're
9:19talking about ghosts again, you know
9:21this stuff? And about meditation.
9:25Obviously, don't come bugging me with
9:27the whole meditation thing. I'm a great
9:31meditator, but I focus on mindfulness
9:34meditation, you know? And there's
9:39nothing to say if you want to consider
9:41another approach to meditation, for
9:43heaven's sake, you can do whatever you
9:45want, but don't pass off other types of
9:47meditation as a magic solution for
9:48certain things. I myself tell you that
9:53meditation is almost never a magic
9:55solution for anything. It is a useful
9:59adjuvant for building a foundation of a
10:01different kind. Meditation is not
10:05therapy. Meditation is not therapy.
10:09Meditation is something else. If you
10:11watch my videos you understand, but it
10:13is not therapy. Very often, when
10:15talking about meditation in these
10:17podcasts, it is obviously implied that
10:19it is a therapy. And those who talk
10:22about meditation, once again,
10:24depression, anxiety, loneliness, etc.,
10:26negative energies, soul, anxiety,
10:29depression, in short, they create some
10:31crazy mixtures. We are in a period of
10:43bombardment with totally wrong
10:45information, and all this causes
10:47serious damage to the population which,
10:49when having mental health problems,
10:51often...and unfortunately the fault is
10:53obviously also ours as doctors, since
10:55we have much less communicative power
10:57than these people, because let me also
10:59say that it's not just our lack of
11:01communication skills: it's that it's
11:03very easy to communicate in a
11:04suggestive and manipulative way when
11:06you bring in, when you hook
11:08into suggestive aspects, the soul,
11:10cosmic energies, Atlantis, the Mayans,
11:12UFOs and subtle energies, etcetera,
11:14etcetera. Okay? If I started talking
11:26on this channel, I'd have
11:27three times the followers I have, okay?
11:32I'd have three times as many if I
11:34occasionally invited, I don't know, a
11:36guru to talk about mental health,
11:38someone with a long beard or someone
11:40who, without any qualifications, talks
11:41to you about neuroscience associated
11:43with meditation, galactic,
11:45there are people who know nothing.
11:49People who know nothing; you look at
11:51their educational background, they know
11:53nothing, they've never seen a patient,
11:55a person, jack, you know? So,
11:57frankly, I am very, very concerned
11:59about all this, because then what
12:01happens? That people stay far, far away
12:05from real solutions, okay? Far away,
12:11they remain exactly as they are because
12:13all these information flows ultimately
12:15trap people in a world that drifts
12:17their minds away from what the real
12:18solutions are, right? I mean, for
12:24heaven's sake, it's obvious that, uh,
12:28it's obvious that we need to change the
12:30world, okay? But these people here are
12:35favored in a context of stagnation; I
12:37mean, none of these people tell you
12:38that we need to change the world, none
12:40of these people tell you that mental
12:42suffering is also a political issue,
12:44okay? Nobody tells you that. They want
12:52to drill into you these fake,
12:53ineffective, obviously absurd tools of
12:55resilience, so a person dedicates
12:57themselves to all this instead of
12:58seriously dealing with their mental
13:00health, until they feel worse and worse
13:02, they get sicker and sicker. And then
13:08in the end, when they reach the limit,
13:09where do they go? Where do you think
13:12they go? They come to us doctors, they
13:15come to us psychologists, to us
13:17psychotherapists, to us real health
13:19professionals, the evidence-based kind,
13:21okay? Which doesn't mean we aren't
13:26spiritual people, it simply means we
13:28don't spout. It's a very
13:31different thing. My Italian podcaster
13:35friends, not spouting doesn't
13:37mean not being spiritual. Okay? That's
13:42the point, because in the end, all
13:44these people are being manipulated and
13:45pushed away from real solutions for
13:47their mental health problems, because
13:49that's the point, okay? Because these
13:54people abuse the medical profession,
13:56they abuse medical and psychological
13:58terms and bend them to their businesses
14:00, because for these people,
14:01spirituality is a business. It's a
14:08business in the form of retreats, books
14:10, conferences, things they do for
14:12newspapers, for TV, for consultations.
14:19These are people who are practicing
14:20medicine without a license. I went to
14:22look at some of them, pure abuse,
14:24because they offer consultations, they
14:26act as coaches, okay? Terms that mean
14:30nothing in their world. I am a big fan
14:34of the word coach when it's used by
14:36serious people, psychologists,
14:38psychotherapists, in serious contexts.
14:41For example, for ADHD, coaching,
14:46Serious coaching done by serious people
14:48with serious educational backgrounds
14:50that rely on serious, evidence-based
14:52theories makes sense, but these people
14:54offer existential coaching,
14:56experiential coaching, retreats. Now
15:00there is also this thing about
15:02psychedelia, so these are people who
15:03send you to do strange things in
15:05strange places, okay? Or who put you
15:08through cathartic experiences. Some of
15:11these, moreover, in my opinion, even
15:13have a bit of a cult-like flavor. Eh,
15:18I've seen some situations where they
15:20talk about characters who have a
15:21cult-like flavor. They have a cult-like
15:26flavor. Okay. Out there, mental health
15:30is discussed in a dangerous way when it
15:32is linked to these specific forms of
15:34spirituality, to these strange words,
15:36okay? Which are mixed with
15:40neuroscientific concepts. That's why
15:45let's remember that neuroscience is now
15:46the key that all these people use to
15:48give the dignity of science to their
15:49. Okay? So I urge you, guys and
15:56girls, guys and girls, try to stay away
15:59from these forms of spirituality, okay?
16:04Try to stay away from anyone who wants
16:06to replace doctors, psychologists, and
16:08certified psychotherapists. Certified,
16:12okay? Okay. Make sure they are people
16:15who don't give you generic advice,
16:16because I hear hallucinating things out
16:18there. I mean, besides, the big
16:22difference between a doctor, a
16:24psychologist, and these charlatans,
16:26these, I don't know, pundits,
16:27podcasters, call them whatever the hell
16:30you want, who invite other pundits,
16:32other charlatans, other gurus, and who
16:34can say whatever they want. I cannot
16:37say whatever I want, okay? I cannot
16:42tell you that mindfulness meditation
16:44has the evidence to cure, I don't know,
16:46autism, ADHD. I can't tell you that. I
16:52can say what it is useful for, maybe
16:54for some of these conditions, different
16:56mental functionings. I cannot tell you
17:01that it will cure your depression, I
17:02don't know, instead of psychotherapy. I
17:05cannot tell you that, okay? I
17:10can only say things that have a basis
17:11of truth and scientific evidence. Okay?
17:16Out there, however, it is full of
17:18people who can say whatever they want
17:20under any title, because to be a
17:22neuroscience expert you just need to
17:24make 500, 600, 700 videos where you
17:26talk about neuroscience in a half-assed
17:28way and you become a neuroscience
17:30expert in this world. Okay? Clearly, so
17:34I always say, eh, and I say it to
17:36myself too, okay? I say it directed at
17:39myself as well. When you listen to my
17:44videos, just as when you listen to the
17:46videos of these spiritual types or
17:48these weekend scientists, always go and
17:50verify, guys, always go and verify even
17:52when it’s me telling you things. If
17:57you’re my fans, if you’re
17:58interested in my educational approach,
18:00if you’re interested in the things I
18:02tell you, always go and verify, eh, go
18:04do some in-depth research. Now you have
18:08a smart way to use artificial
18:10intelligence: go and do some serious
18:12fact-checking. Ask for some extra
18:15verification, see for yourselves,
18:17dedicate yourselves to the culture of
18:19critical thinking. Eh, unfortunately,
18:21the absence of critical thinking is a
18:24huge problem, a huge problem is the
18:26lack of authentic mastery of culture.
18:31And in a world of hyper-information,
18:33this is all a problem because,
18:35obviously, as a doctor, psychiatrist,
18:37and psychotherapist, I get lumped in
18:39with any random Sunday guru on a
18:41podcast. Eh, for many people, we’re
18:45the same thing, okay? Actually, maybe a
18:48bit less, because I don’t have a
18:50beard and I don’t wear
18:51mandarin-collar linen shirts. Eh, I
18:55don’t talk about souls, subtle
18:57energies, or things of that nature.
19:01Alright, please, I urge you, stay alert
19:03. If you want to hear some serious
19:08things about mental health, especially
19:10regarding the world of neurodiversity,
19:12let me tell you that you absolutely
19:14must come to Bologna on November 28th,
19:162026. I will also be talking about
19:20these things during my speeches. I mean
19:25, "Diversamente," November 28th, 2026,
19:28we originally thought there would be a
19:30few hundred people interested in this
19:32event, but in reality, we realized we
19:34needed a hall for at least 800-900
19:36people and we are filling all the seats
19:38. Eh, we started at 200, then 300, then
19:44500. Now we will be in a theater with
19:47almost 1,000 people, so please: go look
19:50for your tickets. You can find the last
19:54tickets down in the description as
19:56always, or search on Google for "
19:57Diversamente Bologna,""Valerio Rosso,""
19:59Lifology" and you’ll find everything.
20:02Go for it. I believe the last tickets
20:06will be on offer until September 30th,
20:08so they cost much less. Go get them
20:12while they are cheaper, instead of
20:14waiting to get them later and paying
20:15more. Diversamente Bologna 2026,
20:20November 28th, entirely dedicated to
20:22different mental functionings, an
20:24incredibly interesting theme and
20:26essentially one of the focuses of my
20:28outreach and clinical work, my books,
20:30my conferences, and so on. Alright,
20:35please, I leave you from splendid
20:37Liguria, I’ll show you a nice view,
20:39and I’ll see you soon to talk about
20:41new topics. Bye. Bye. I would say that
21:37regarding esotericism, this is a truly
21:40esoteric place, I would say. Hello
21:44everyone.

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