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0:00and we were leaving in heels. Now it
0:02seems to us that, oh, I am totally out
0:04of place. Oh, this client is paying me
0:08and is spending money and doesn't know
0:10the mess they're going to give him.
0:13If a stylist doesn't solve your problem
0:15, don't buy it.
0:16If it doesn't solve your problem, bye.
0:18It is just that there are obviously
0:19people whom we enjoy working with more
0:21and others whom we enjoy working with
0:22much less. There are some who are
0:25referred to photographers. The girl's
0:27leg is going to show through her
0:28panties. The heel. This. Join in and
0:34shut up. This screen is discarded. I
0:37took it home for the cameras at home.
0:39Very expensive. Don't answer here.
0:41Don't answer or I don't have a date.
0:43Ahita. I always answer them, but you
0:45know what, I don't have a date. No,
0:46never. Today's podcast is going to be a
0:54little different, because this is going
0:57to be a lot of buzz with the guest I
0:59have here today, because she can't hold
1:01back, she can't hold back at all. But
1:05you don't know who she is; but she's a
1:07very well-known stylist that I love. As
1:11I've always told you, the people I have
1:14here are going to be people whose work
1:16I love and who are dedicated to fashion
1:18, to fashion, to dressing them up,
1:20accompanying them during their
1:22photoshoots, during their events. She's
1:27very creative, I don't know, you tell
1:30her, "With this, give me a look and
1:32she'll do it for you." And it's really
1:35cool, uh, she's
1:39very original, she's
1:41very original. And well, here with you
1:45I have the great stylist from Culiacán
1:48, Luz Payán.
1:51Uh, audience, audience,
1:54audience, those of you over there. Uh,
1:58I'm very happy, Lu.
1:59Thank you, Karen. Look, with those
2:00cheers I was like, what do I say now?
2:02Now what do I talk about? Thank you
2:04very much. Here we are. I wanted to
2:07come and gossip about fashion, tell you
2:09what we're doing, what we're going to
2:11do, how we're doing it, but you figured
2:12it out perfectly, didn't you? I'll
2:16show you a look with this, of
2:17course, whatever you want, you know,
2:19with this petal and make me a look.
2:21I always say, "Wear the clothes, we
2:22don't
2:22know how to dress, right?"
2:24And now they are buying and buying with
2:26that che thing, going crazy for the
2:28sales and then they do not even wear
2:29anything. That's what I'm getting at.
2:33It's a gift, it's a gift that you have
2:34to have because sometimes you don't
2:36even know how to combine colors, black
2:37and white and how to combine them and
2:39you're dead. Hey, and that's because I
2:41did start playing, Karen, playing. Then
2:44I specialized, but you have to bring it
2:45. In fact, many times I've been invited
2:48to give classes at very famous schools
2:50here and I refuse, as the song says,
2:52because I can't fail them and there are
2:54people who really don't have it. Well,
2:56too bad, kid, she does this work and
2:57lacks it too. She wants to be one thing
3:00, like you dress cool or like, oh girl,
3:01the friend who dresses cool, but when
3:03it comes to interpreting it with people
3:05or getting inspired. I looked on
3:07Pinterest and this and this look good
3:08and you wear it, you copy. That's
3:11copying. It's very different,
3:12right? And besides, even if they copy
3:14it, for example, I can copy you and
3:16they can be the same clothes and it
3:18doesn't come out right. You have to
3:20have that gift. That applies to
3:22everything, right? In photography, in
3:24clothing, there are people who will
3:25copy you and they still can't do it
3:27because they're not funny. I mean, 100%
3:29you have to have the gift, the grace,
3:31the spark, that spark that you have
3:33that where you get, what's up? There
3:37they are
3:37afraid of me, but I do behave very well
3:39. It's more like part of my image.
3:41She's a little strict, but honestly, I
3:43always try to have fun with my clients
3:45and treat them well. It's super
3:47important to be nice to people so that
3:48everyone can identify with you.
3:50Sometimes, no. Yes, I've had my two or
3:52three little details that I have. There
3:54are some very complicated people.
3:55Tell me, tell me. Let's start with that
3:57. Here, gossip will come first. Tell me
3:59. Let's see. There are some
4:00very complicated people, Carmen. I mean
4:02, more so in Culiacán. Here in
4:03Culiacán, the truth is that they think
4:05that you're the one who paints me,
4:06paints me, does everything for me, and
4:08they don't even tell you, "Please, or I
4:10want this and I want you to put Chanel
4:12Hermés on me and you, let's see, Mommy
4:14, do you have it?" No, no, you bring it
4:16to me. Well, you have to have it to
4:18know how to use it. Well, in my job, I
4:20also work with brands and stuff, but
4:22that's not the point, right? I always
4:24tell them that brands were a boom here
4:25in Culiacán for a while, when everyone
4:27wanted brands, and I thought, well, why
4:28would you wear them if you don't have
4:30them in your daily life? Sure,
4:31why should I say that? I mean,
4:33something aspirational is really cool,
4:35but no, there was a time when it really
4:37affected me like, let's see, if I have
4:39certain things, but if you don't have
4:41them, you're not going to...Besides,
4:42how are you going to carry a Hermes bag
4:44among your things that are what you're
4:46going to use every day to someone, or a
4:48pair of Chanel sneakers? How are you
4:50going to buy a pair of sneakers that
4:52cost $ 40,000 if you're catching 5%of
4:55the sneakers and they're not going to
4:57sell them to you? Well, no, I mean, no.
5:00Well, that was one of the things that
5:02some people didn't like. And another
5:03thing, well, sometimes it doesn't click
5:04, right? When they tell you, "I want
5:06this, I want to stand out from the
5:08crowd and shine." And you see that
5:11neither the person you hired does it
5:13nor I do it,
5:14which is very important, right? Many
5:16people hire you and don't even review
5:18your work or what you do and as we were
5:20talking about a while ago, ah, I want
5:21this. But I don't do it. I mean, it's
5:25not so much a fight with the client,
5:26it's more like I don't do it, hire them
5:28to do it or hire them to do it, right?
5:30Because many times it's not that you
5:31don't do it, it's that you don't want
5:32to do it,
5:33right? And what matters, what's
5:34important, is knowing how to say, "Hey,
5:36stop, I won't do it." And not just to
5:38keep the client's money, do something
5:40that you know doesn't represent you,
5:42that you don't do it, that you simply
5:44don't do it
5:44because then they're going to ask you,
5:46they're going
5:47to ask you and they're going to ask you
5:48and you're going to say, oh, I don't do
5:50this and I don't like it, it's not me.
5:52And that is going to be another thing
5:53you must do. And I always say, if you
5:56do it for money, right? That too, of
5:59course, obviously we all work for a
6:01monetary purpose, right? But when your
6:05essential motivation is, oh, I want to
6:06make money, it doesn't happen very
6:08often. I mean, that's why 350,000
6:10styles came about, because they do it
6:12for money. That's what I
6:13meant, we're getting ahead of ourselves
6:15, right? But that's what I was going to
6:16talk about. What do you think about
6:18that? That stylists pop up everywhere?
6:21And well, sometimes, they're people who
6:23either don't have the gift, or even
6:25though they studied it, it just doesn't
6:27come to them, or they didn't even study
6:29it and because they went to a session
6:31with a friend and helped the friend put
6:33on her boot and jacket or something.
6:35Oh, yeah, now they're stylists. Well,
6:37right now everyone is a stylist. Since
6:40I worked at Sara's for 2 hours, I've
6:41been a stylist for 2 hours. My mom and
6:43I dressed her for her first communion.
6:45I'm now a stylist. They tell me that I
6:48look good, man. I'm a stylist now, and
6:49I'm not.
6:50What do I think? It's too easy for them
6:52? It's so easy for them, so easy that I
6:54feel like right now they're really
6:56devaluing the market, because there are
6:58so many who say, "Oh, I'll buy a piece
7:01of chain
7:02and I'll do it with that, right?"
7:03Or that they lower their prices
7:05and, well, I always say that everyone
7:07can charge what they want, right?
7:08Everyone knows what they're worth, but
7:10it's very important that you give to
7:12the client. So, well, there are many
7:14who believe they are, but they're not.
7:17And deep down they know it because
7:18they're copying trends, copying what
7:19the other person does, doing exactly
7:21the same thing and as we were saying,
7:22it doesn't work out for them, it
7:24doesn't look like Wenda's, it just
7:25doesn't work out.
7:27I feel like the stylist market is even
7:29more jealous than the photographer
7:30market.
7:31Yes, because, well, it's the same thing
7:33, the client is going to ask you for
7:34the same thing that someone else saw or
7:36you always have to be creating because
7:38you know that what you've already done
7:39will be replicated and that's great. I
7:41always say, it's a tribute to life, let
7:42them continue it. replicating. What a
7:44pain. This one, but that detracts from
7:47the work.
7:48Yes, you come to realize that this
7:50stylist copied this look from me and
7:53this is what I did.
7:54Yes. And many times it's not really him
7:56, it's also the client who asks for it.
7:58I mean, it's a balance, right? You know
8:01who is copying you because it's
8:03shameless. The client asks for it and
8:05it's once, once in a while, well it's
8:06like the photos. Oh well, I want the
8:09photo in the white circle in the back.
8:11Oh, it's not going to say a
8:12photographer copied me. Well no, the
8:13client asked for that. This, like for
8:15example the metallic looks, those the
8:16gold looks, the tool ones, the client
8:18is going to keep asking for them. So,
8:20on that note, I don't think that type
8:21of look is so common. You realize when
8:24it's a joke or when you say, "Hey, you
8:26want to be a stylist, put in some
8:28tricks, invest in it." It's also very
8:30easy for them because they don't invest
8:32, they don't invest and in This
8:33requires a lot of investment, right?
8:35Yes.
8:36Let's say that as a photographer you
8:37can fix it if the boot comes bent
8:39because sometimes they do bend it, yes,
8:40but sometimes they do come back really
8:42damaged. So if you don't want to invest
8:45, just take money, it's the same thing.
8:47You're doing it just for the money, not
8:48to treat the person well, to make them
8:50feel cool, which is what I mean, right?
8:55So that they can see it and say, "Oh
8:57man, I took a bath.""
8:58I used to recommend, like, oh, well,
9:00there's such and such a stylist, such
9:01and such a stylist, they're missing
9:02something. I would send them the list
9:04like
9:04the directory.
9:05Yes, the directory of Stylists of
9:07Culiacán, I swear. But some time ago I
9:10started to realize, I mean, the
9:12difference between how a stylist treats
9:14a client and how another treats them.
9:17That's
9:18also very important. I always tell them
9:20, styling someone goes way beyond the
9:22clothes and if you're just hiring
9:23someone for the clothes, then you're
9:25hiring a costumer. Costumers or someone
9:27who puts your clothes on. Look, all of
9:30them, all of them, and there are too
9:31many. But as long as they make you feel
9:34good, they make you feel comfortable,
9:36they pamper you, they make you say," Oh
9:37, I had a great time, the session isn't
9:39a nightmare. "" It's
9:41even for us, the photographer, that
9:46the stylist can either make the session
9:48easy or difficult or complicated,
9:50because for example, I really like it
9:52when you guys come and ask me if you've
9:54noticed, to pose for me or to see some
9:56of your poses. I mean, oh no, Karen, I
9:58don't want to work.
9:59No, no, no, no. Here with Karen Ibarra,
10:02we work, man.
10:03Yes, of course. That's why teamwork is
10:05very important. If you work as a team,
10:06you work more comfortably,
10:09the session goes by faster, and if
10:10there's a situation like the one I'm
10:11telling you about, like my stocking
10:13ripped, you solve it as a team; you
10:14don't feel that attention anymore, like
10:16, how am I going to say it? And
10:18obviously, like everything else, there
10:19are photographers that I don't work
10:21with and won't work with again, and I
10:23don't care.
10:24And I don't care. Why? Because they
10:26don't support you. No, or maybe you
10:29excel at doing a great job and when
10:31it's time to They deliver the photos,
10:33horrible photos that he didn't even
10:36show, you say, "Oh, this client is
10:38paying me and spending and doesn't know
10:41the mess they're going to deliver to
10:43him." It's super important, right? I
10:45always ask, who's going to take care of
10:46you? Because I know that we're going to
10:48be able to work on that. And sometimes
10:50they ask you for things and you say, if
10:52you're saving money with the
10:53photographer and not with me, then the
10:55result might not be the same, right?
10:57And you hear it,
10:58but sometimes it can be misinterpreted,
11:00putting the client on alert and saying,
11:02I never tell them, I just ask to know,
11:03oh, do you want to do this? Well, what
11:06needs? I also have to cover it, it's
11:07part of my job. And this is wrong
11:09because you're exposing the other
11:11person and maybe that person needs a
11:13little more, it doesn't mean it's wrong
11:14, but it doesn't meet the requirements
11:16of what the client wants. If you want
11:18photos like that, you have to hire them
11:20here when they ask me
11:22or if they don't have a photographer
11:24anymore or you want this, you can hire
11:26them here because that person will give
11:28you the vibe, the bike, as the girls
11:30say now, or whatever you want. If not,
11:32well, We will do everything possible to
11:33make it work, but it won't be the same.
11:35It's not going to happen the same,
11:36right? It happened to me a lot, I'll
11:38tell you, I'd go through the whole
11:40calendar and now I don't have my top
11:42photos and I'd just do a few little
11:44numbers, I mean, and it's like, no...I
11:46don't tell them, "I don't recommend you
11:48anymore," I simply tell them, "I like
11:50to work with the stylists I like, with
11:52the ones who do a good job," and beyond
11:55that, I don't know you anymore. If you
11:58bring your own stylist, no problem. I
12:00mean, yes, I do work with them, but
12:02they almost always come with the ones I
12:04like. Because there was also a
12:07situation where I recommended a lot of
12:09stylists and then I found out that some
12:10of the stylists I recommended were
12:12already talking to me, "Oh, who's going
12:14to take your photos? Oh, Karen Ibarra."
12:17Oh, but look, there's so-and-so
12:18photographer,
12:20the client was stealing my photos and I
12:21was a good person. "
12:22Those are bad practices. When the
12:24market grows, for example, in
12:26photography, in styling, in everything,
12:28those kinds of things happen. The truth
12:30is that the new guys do it, the new
12:32guys who say I'm going to steal money
12:34to work here. And what do they do? They
12:36close the market, they close doors
12:38and they close the doors on themselves
12:40because the client goes to them once,
12:41they don't deliver the results they
12:43expect and then they come back to us
12:44and tell us," Sure,
12:46please. "" I mean, we've been through
12:48all those things, right? And even more
12:50so when lawsuits start between several
12:52people. I've never really been in an
12:54employment dispute with anyone, thank
12:56God for that, because I'm very clear.
12:58Oh, I don't work with the point. Oh,
12:59I'm telling you to their face. I mean,
13:01I don't like working with this person
13:03and I try to avoid those situations so
13:05as not to end up in a lawsuit. I don't
13:07like those rumors because, what do you
13:09say? It says more about what you say
13:11about that person than what you're
13:12doing. Sure. So, if this person comes
13:15and tells me, well, that says it. I'm
13:19not one to complain, I just, oh, okay,
13:21that happened, excuse me, I won't pass
13:24on your number again, I won't recommend
13:26you again, period. Oh, I haven't seen
13:30you since. Who knows? Oh, how strange.
13:32Touched.
13:32Oh, you don't lend me things anymore.
13:34Who knows why I have it busy? And also
13:38I like clients, uh, I love to like bad
13:40clients who behaved badly during the
13:43session. I say, "No, mommy, no, it
13:45won't happen to me again." And badly I
13:49mean that sometimes they are rude to my
13:51assistant, to me, to the makeup artist,
13:52since everything is a team, you say, "
13:54No, this person is going to be a
13:56problem in the long run and they don't
13:58like anything, it's better here." Then
14:00they come back, but they are left
14:01wanting more.
14:02They are left wanting more. Besides, if
14:04that person, if you have already
14:05realized that you don't do well with
14:06them at all, it's bad publicity because
14:08they are going to go and say, "Oh, this
14:09happened to me," blah blah blah. "And
14:12that's a lie because they come back
14:14because they come back, you don't say
14:16no,
14:17but if you have a little
14:19mark on my, on my cell phone, on your
14:20cell phone, don't answer here, don't
14:22answer, or that I don't have a date, I
14:24always answer them, but that you know
14:25what, I never have a date. Listen,
14:29we're starting with the hard gossip,
14:31but for those who don't know, because
14:33this term of stylist is perhaps more
14:36for the kids than for the older
14:37generations. Hey, yes, because then
14:41they always asked me if I paint hair,
14:43if I do nails, that I don't paint hair,
14:45I don't do nails, I'm not going to sew
14:48your clothes, or I'm not going to rent
14:50you my clothes, just like that.
14:53The term of styles, well, it started
14:55with people who paint or fix hair, but
14:56it's already migrated to people who are
14:58image consultants, right? That's the
15:01word.
15:01Yes. Ah, well then I do them and I
15:04emphasize them. And here we tell you
15:06what a stylist does and doesn't do.
15:10Maybe for The older generations, as I
15:12tell them, who are not aware that, ah,
15:14a single outfit and they tell you, like
15:16, a single what? I mean, a single
15:19outfit, two outfits, the package, the
15:21stylist doesn't include it, but then
15:22you as a photographer tell them," Hey,
15:24what do you include in your package?
15:26Here come the clothes. "I mean, no,
15:29that's the job, the stylist's work. Yes
15:32. What does a stylist do? They're an
15:33image consultant. They help you
15:35conceptualize what you're going to do
15:36in the session, get dressed, put
15:37together the looks. And you also have
15:40looks, which I always tell people, if
15:41you have a really bad suit or maybe I
15:42have, you know what? All these branded
15:45things that I don't even know how to
15:46use, you have to style them, that's the
15:48word, make them work in a way that
15:49works for my photos or for everyday
15:51life too, right? That's what a stylist
15:53does, they do it...The term started
15:55with artists, because they were the
15:57ones who conceptualized the image of,
15:58well, how Britney looked or how we
16:00define the 2000s era; it's because
16:02there was someone, this, how she looked
16:07or how Duel looks, how Lady Gaga looks,
16:09how all the divas look and how men look
16:11too, right? Everything is thought out,
16:14right? And I liked doing it, well,
16:17Bringing it down to earth with photos
16:19of normal people, so that everyone in
16:21their photos feels like an artist, a
16:22diva, an artist, and even more so here
16:24in Culiacán, where we love the show,
16:27the cool, the glitter, the extravagance
16:30,
16:31everything extravagant, where lately
16:32we've been very calm, but we're still
16:34looking for shorts.
16:35Yes, lately I feel like the trends
16:38right now are like everything a little
16:40less. Culiacán was a little more, I
16:45mean, Culiacán always more is more and
16:47it also had its golden age which was
16:49like a trend towards the bochona wave,
16:51all the glitter, the nail polish or ah,
16:54that's very Culiacán, I love that. I
16:57love it when that's very Culiacán.
16:59Of course, I mean, no, that also
17:00happens a lot with fashion, right?
17:02Because if you don't like it, what can
17:04I say if it's good or bad, no. Fashion
17:06goes
17:07beyond that. In fact, when I upload
17:09outfits I tell them, I don't like those
17:10pants. Dude, I didn't ask you, I'm
17:12telling you that it's being used. I
17:14don't like it, dude. Well, don't wear
17:16it. That's what fashion is for, to
17:18create diversity.
17:19Fashion suits those who like it, you
17:20can express yourself. And yes, right
17:22now, trends go hand in hand with what's
17:25happening in the world. What's
17:27happening in the world? Crisis, um, war
17:30, instability, sorry. We're coming out
17:34of a pandemic that seems like yesterday
17:35and it was 6 years ago. So, what's
17:37happening with fashion? Well, you don't
17:39wear glitter anymore, you don't wear
17:41those heels with feathers anymore,
17:43because right now everything is more
17:44about being more stable and that also
17:46goes with what you wear on your head,
17:49right? So, that's why women are simpler
17:52, calmer now, they also want us to go a
17:54little unnoticed, but since we
17:57stopped wearing heels, the ladies...Oh,
17:59yeah, you ladies. Let's
18:02see, you don't wear high heels, boots
18:04and...Like that, but it's so famous
18:09that we used to go
18:12to the club, to the little bar, to the
18:14restaurant, to the piñata and we would
18:16go in heels. Now it seems to us that
18:18it's completely irrelevant. Sure, it's
18:22a trend. In fact, there's a theory out
18:25there that says that it has a lot to do
18:26with how the world is, how it uses
18:28skirts and heels. And when we wear them
18:31closer to the ground, they want us
18:32calmer, more relaxed, more everything,
18:34given what happens in the world, right?
18:36It is when a revolution is desired that
18:38women step up onto their platforms,
18:40that they step up onto their high heels
18:42. So that's also why I'm telling you,
18:45because fashion has many very
18:47interesting things, not only that get
18:49ready with me, let's do this Shane
18:51thing. I mean, no, everything has a
18:54reason, right? Why do we dress. What do
18:56you think of get ready with me? Oh, how
18:58awful.
18:59Hey, I was dying of laughter just now
19:00at the World Cup.
19:01Always, look how always. They ask me
19:02for it on my social media, but I mean,
19:04I always wear the same thing because I
19:06don't know what I like, what suits me,
19:07what doesn't. And well, they record
19:09that I bought all this from Sara, I'm
19:11going to wear it. They end up returning
19:13it. It doesn't suit their personality
19:15at all; it just doesn't. One day
19:16they're sirens, another day they're
19:18clean look, another day they're Harley
19:20Bieber. Oh man, that's why I was
19:22shocked because they don't have a style
19:24and it's very important to have a style
19:26where they say," That's too expensive,
19:28my bar, that's
19:29too bright for girls "and you don't see
19:31those people who say, oh that's too, I
19:33was going to say an influencer, but I
19:34better not say it, that's too her, no
19:36because they're always wearing what's
19:38trendy, trendy, trendy, trendy, they're
19:39like a catalog. I see it as a catalog.
19:42I don't like them for that reason, but
19:44I do see them
19:45because I'm always looking for clothes,
19:47I liked that. Oh, now I know where it
19:49is. I'm going to look for it, I'm going
19:51to buy it to have in my styling closet.
19:52Yeah, it's not something that, if you
19:54see it represented in an image, you'd
19:55say:" Oh, that was made by such and
19:56such influencer. "Is it her look or is
19:59it a look that she would wear, because
20:00they have everything very...is she from
20:02the archetypes? For example, she's on
20:05the red carpet in Sendaya, a get ready
20:06with me with her, we already know what
20:08style she has; she has a really badass
20:09stylist. Sure, I'm interested in that
20:11one, but I don't care about the one in
20:13Monterrey, I mean, and they send them
20:14to me as if it were, dude, they don't
20:17send you ideas, as if they were ideas,
20:18dude, no, I mean, and in fact there are
20:19things that I already bought, I already
20:21bought.
20:22For that, yes, I'm very observant,
20:24observant. So, if I go to a store, I
20:27can tell you before the people who work
20:28at Sara, where is it? I feel like
20:35hiring a stylist when it's something I
20:38don't have in my closet. Sure.
20:41I wouldn't normally wear it, but I like
20:43it, it's something I want, but I won't
20:46go to an event with something like that
20:48. You're
20:48not going to invest in that either. I
20:50mean, for example, we're talking about
20:52these stuffed animals, these stuffed
20:54animals that are very trendy. It's
20:56something that you're always going to
20:57wear, but you're not going to buy it.
20:58Why would you buy it?
20:59Yeah, because you're not dating him. I
21:02was even traveling recently and my
21:03assistant told me to bring me some
21:05stuffed animals like that. I told her,"
21:08Man, I mean, no, how am I going to
21:10carry suitcases all over the streets
21:11with these stuffed animals and how am I
21:13going to get to the tower? "I said and
21:15I'll lend it to you. I'll lend it to
21:18you, I'll rent it. No, I did know that
21:21you would lend them to me, but I mean,
21:22it wasn't, I mean, it would have been
21:23really cool to take a photo, maybe at
21:25the Tour de Paris with an outfit that I
21:26had asked you to put together,
21:29for example, that's what they talk to
21:30me about, they talk to me a lot and I
21:32barely think I'm going to launch it,
21:33but I'm going to launch this little
21:35project of making looks for her for her
21:36trips. But they ask me about this a lot
21:38and I tell them, if you're going to
21:40travel you have to take clothes, cables
21:42, but you have to be practical. Why?
21:45Because the photo, gey photo, I mean,
21:46there you don't see how in New York I
21:48had to see some influencers who brought
21:50a big suitcase and changed right there,
21:52but that's what they were going for.
21:55How annoying that you miss all that for
21:56a photo. That's going to make you look
21:58better in your daily life. Why? Because
22:01you can be all messed up with the coat
22:03and be telling me," Wow, did you see?
22:05Look, no. "I mean, tell me what you saw
22:08in Pisa, what happened in Rome. I mean,
22:11that gives you, like, I don't know what
22:13. A story you learned. I didn't care
22:15about the look and the photo this time.
22:17And the photo. You can take a really
22:19cool souvenir photo, take two or three
22:21looks with you, but there are people
22:23who want the whole trip to be theirs
22:25and suffer the whole trip because
22:26they're thinking," I won't make it to
22:28the hotel to change. "Sometimes you
22:30make it and then you go to the hotel
22:32with Alex Rivera, who I love with Alex
22:34because Alex travels a lot. New York is
22:38great. I had to take the looks with me,
22:40obviously. They would have seen me
22:42carrying my suitcase. If you go out and
22:44travel, you can't walk. Oh, I'll call
22:47an Uber because it's expensive, right?
22:49But it says that some people have one,
22:52but you lose a ton of time getting
22:54there. So, you have to walk with that.
22:56Now, imagine yourself on a trip in
22:57Europe,
22:57on the train. For me, a suitcase tire
23:00would break, and I'd be screwed.
23:02Yeah, it's not impossible. So, there's
23:04also that illusion that influencers
23:06give off that we're going to go and
23:07take a photo every time we go out. It's
23:10a lie. There are people who do that,
23:12but when you travel, travel to improve
23:15your style. And besides, if you want
23:18style, you don't need to take 50,000;
23:19you'll look great with whatever you
23:21wear, invest in it. I always say:
23:23accessories, something that identifies
23:25you, get ready, make sure you look
23:26clean. I mean, then a bad fall and
23:28there they are in their pajamas or
23:30doing yoga.
23:31Without showering for three days, no
23:32way. I mean, even if they bring yoga,
23:34lululemon or whatever they have. So,
23:37the best thing is that if they want
23:38photos, I think, ah, okay, I'm going to
23:39take the photo, I'm going to one place,
23:40there's no way to go to take the photo.
23:43If you're going to take a photo,
23:44pay for a trip to take a photo.
23:45Yes, I think so. Yeah. I think that's
23:48actually the ideal thing, to pay for a
23:50special trip and go for special photos.
23:53There are so many photos. I have also
23:54seen that trend with younger kids,
23:56where their travel photos no longer
23:57need to be quite so perfect anymore. I
23:59mean, if you take your gloss with you,
24:01it also looks super cool when you're
24:03blurry. And the great look, well, who's
24:05going to see your great look? I'm not
24:07interested in seeing your great look,
24:09I'm interested in seeing Shakira's,
24:11Dualipa's, and on their honeymoon, but
24:13not yours.
24:16No, no, no, no. I mean, if it's from
24:18influencers, well, they always wear the
24:19same thing, you go down to see what
24:20they wore on that trip and that's where
24:22you can get inspired too. That's why
24:24I'm telling you, the trend right now is
24:27not to be so posed, to be
24:29more relaxed,
24:30more relaxed, but in a photo, which is
24:32what I like to do the most, that's
24:34where the fantasy comes in. You want to
24:36be cool, you can do anything because
24:38the photo is a fantasy. Of course.
24:40And one's job is to make that fantasy
24:42flow, to make it look good and for them
24:43to say," Oh, how cool, you look like a
24:45princess. "" Oh, how cool, you look,
24:47you look great. "Yes, because a style
24:49can also be the thing that builds you
24:52or breaks you. So, you have to be very
24:55careful when choosing your style. And
24:57especially now, let's talk about brides
25:00, weddings, which is super important
25:02and sometimes people don't think that
25:05having styles is something basic.
25:07Yes, I love working with brides because
25:09most of the ones who hire me are very
25:12bright. I don't know anything about
25:13fashion. I work all day, but I want
25:15something pretty for my session and a
25:17little more elevated than what I wear
25:19every day, right?
25:21Those brides who want me to dress them
25:22up as baseball players for the tomato
25:23growers don't hire me because I've
25:25already asked them to. But you're going
25:28to wear that all season. Why do you
25:29want to look like that? Better a cool
25:31dress to look like a total [ __ ],
25:33expensive, and your husband looks
25:34expensive, no? They arrive with a
25:37guarachón or with the...
25:39Your thing is glamor. The glamor
25:41of who? Of a very handsome but very
25:44eccentric boyfriend who arrived with a
25:46lot of brand-name stuff, but in very
25:47bad taste, very bad taste. And I did
25:50that
25:50so I told him no. I
25:53told him, you know, I don't know, I
25:55mean, he laughed because it was very...
25:57We were already getting along and I
25:59told him, dude, I mean, this is
26:00Cristian, the booty is horrible. Don't
26:04those sneakers you're wearing on the
26:06clock look better on you than all this?
26:09I was very disappointed after seeing
26:11all his investment wasted. I mean, most
26:14people want to look good and others
26:15want to get crazy saying," Oh, I'm
26:17going to cut my hair for a new look, "
26:18and I also don't recommend that when
26:20it's a photoshoot because you're not
26:21going to feel like yourself,
26:23right? And then you'll look at the
26:24photos and say," What did I do? "
26:25Say," What did I do? "Exactly. That's
26:27what a stylist is for. Aside from
26:29taking your clothes, you know what?
26:32Look, if you like to have your hair cut
26:34like this, leave it because it's you,
26:35or you know, how many ugly nails have
26:37you seen that you've had to edit? You
26:39have to fix them.
26:41So, I always say, roots, nails, this,
26:43that, once you have everything ready,
26:44such as your nails, your personal
26:46hygiene, for men, your beard, cutting
26:48your nails, your teeth, I don't know,
26:49any little detail, then we'll go to
26:51your clothes,
26:53start with your person, that's
26:54the easiest thing to do. And with
26:56brides and grooms, that's what it's all
26:57about: making sure they look good, that
26:59they look expensive, that they look
27:00elegant, and that they have great
27:02photos that will last a lifetime. Those
27:03photos will stay with them, right? On
27:05the contrary,
27:07sometimes they don't want to invest in
27:09stylists and want to leave all the work
27:11to us photographers. They think that
27:13we're going to do a fabulous job with
27:16whatever clothes they come in. Of
27:18course, it has a lot to do with the
27:20styling work. Why? Because you can tell
27:23me," I want this spot. But obviously
27:27this spot has to be done with shades of
27:29clothing that suit her or that one
27:31color suits her and the other clashes
27:33and the two colors clash, and forget
27:35about it.
27:37It doesn't mean that you look bad. I
27:39always say, it doesn't mean that the
27:40photo doesn't look harmonious when
27:42combined, and you'll say, "Oh, why
27:43doesn't my photo look like theirs?"
27:46It's because of what you wore, the
27:47color you used, where you wanted to
27:48wear it. Sometimes they want to wear
27:50heels in the ocean. I've done endless
27:52sessions of couples in the ocean and I
27:54tell them, "Hey, there are flies,
27:56you're going to get wet, this, that, ah
27:57, I'm pulling." If you pull, I'm
27:59pulling. And the point of that session
28:01is that you know that you have to wear
28:03clothes that, well, too bad, look dirty
28:04and then they say, "Oh, why isn't that
28:06photo in?" And it's because of all
28:08these types of details that have to be
28:10taken care of,
28:10because low-fit does matter. And then,
28:13apart from that, for us as
28:15photographers, the work of the stylist,
28:17apart from that, greatly improves the
28:19photo. Why? Because of what I tell them
28:22, because when they arrive, if they
28:24don't bring stylists, I tell them, "Hey
28:27, that look you're wearing goes better
28:29with this setting or that setting. So,
28:31I do help them a little bit when they
28:33don't bring a stylist."
28:34Yes, of course. In fact, as
28:35photographers, there are some who tell
28:36me, "Oh, no, I don't know anything,
28:37help me." Or what can I do? Because you
28:40also have so much work and sometimes
28:41you can't figure it out, right? Like me
28:44, sometimes they come to me and say, "
28:45Oh, what do you recommend?" And I don't
28:47know you, I don't know how to recommend
28:49you. Wait,
28:50let me talk. I see everything. Now that
28:53I know you, I can recommend you. It's
28:54the same with what you recommend. All
28:56that takes time and that's also why you
28:58pay. Of course. No.
29:00And many times they say, "Oh, no, right
29:02now that's so fashionable because of
29:03the chain, because of the sales,
29:05because it's summer and obviously
29:06because of the economy. I'd rather buy
29:08the clothes that way I'll keep them."
29:10They don't wear them. That's a lie.
29:12They don't wear them. And I tell them
29:13you
29:13end up spending more.
29:14You spend more. Why? Take a look. If
29:17it's two looks. Two looks is the
29:19complete outfit. Two pairs of shoes,
29:22two earrings, two necklaces, makeup,
29:23someone to touch up your hair, someone
29:25to take care of those details.
29:27Especially if you wear a certain type
29:29of clothing. There are details that we
29:32have in the styles, such as coats,
29:33capes, stoles, things that we have made
29:35, that we take off and put on, and that
29:37make any little thing that you wear
29:38look good for a photoshoot. So, if
29:40you're going to wear something that you
29:42wear every day, take them with your
29:43cell phone. Your stylist is also
29:44sometimes in contact with your makeup
29:46artist. If you take the package with
29:48your makeup artist, she has already
29:49spoken to your makeup artist. I'm going
29:51to put this on. I need an updo, I need
29:54some waves so that I can put them back
29:56later or I need to blow dry, I need, in
29:58other words, your look, your makeup,
30:00and
30:01now that it's really hot, I tell you,
30:03bring that one that I buy and I don't
30:04know what, and then the clothes are
30:06finished. It works. Like, "Oh, I'm
30:08going to get my makeup done and all,"
30:10but you bring no one to assist or do
30:11your touch-ups; that's how they arrive
30:13at the session.
30:13They arrive at the session carrying
30:15suitcases, unloading things from the
30:17car, saying, "Wait, I forgot this, I
30:19left this outside, I don't know where
30:21this is." I mean, they're already very
30:23stressed out by the time they get to
30:25the session, it's already here.
30:26Their job is to solve problems. If a
30:28stylist fails you, it isn't the reverse
30:30. If they don't solve your problems,
30:32bye. And of course, that can be
30:33discussed too. There are things that I
30:35can't solve because I don't know how to
30:37do them, or I'm not going to do them
30:39because your photographer has to do it
30:41or whatever; that can be discussed. But
30:44if not, misunderstandings often arise,
30:46and that's when the client, like, ask,
30:48come over. And the truth is, if you
30:52hire a stylist and a photographer you
30:54trust, you'll spend the entire session,
30:57like, bubble gum, at ease, you'll have
30:59fun and you'll let them pamper you.
31:03They'll tell you, "Sit down, they'll
31:04take off your shoe, put on another one,
31:06they'll adjust your dress, if the dress
31:07is too big, they'll adjust it for you;
31:09in other words, they'll totally pamper
31:10you on the day of your photos.
31:12Especially in a wedding session it's
31:14very important because it's not the
31:16same to deal with one person than with
31:18two. As a bride, you have in your head
31:19what you're going to wear, your look
31:21and everything, and men never decide on
31:23their look, what they're going to wear.
31:25So,
31:25they end up fighting about this. The
31:29man also doesn't make me laugh and they
31:31don't take care of him. Really, really
31:33bad, and God forbid. And if you worried
31:36about the man also coming handsome, you
31:37come with the burden of" I forgot this
31:39about him "or" I forgot this about me "
31:41because you come with the burden of two
31:42people. Otherwise, you hire your
31:45stylist, you arrive fresh, combed, even
31:47in your pajamas if you want to arrive
31:50without" I forgot. "If you want to
31:53bring your watch, your personal items,
31:55little things that you should bring
31:56because you are a couple, but you bring
31:58the rest at your leisure.
32:00We have fun with the only thing I
32:02always tell them, the only thing we
32:03can't do anything about is the heat,
32:04but if you put in the effort,
32:06everything flows
32:06or if you come to Vinal's, everything
32:09flows because obviously here in his
32:12dressing room, we have his entire
32:15bathroom here, we have everything. You
32:16had to put the prize there, right? You
32:18knew
32:19we had to score a goal with Vinal. Of
32:21course. Hey, yes, because it was urgent
32:23to have a new space here in Culiacán.
32:25It was
32:25urgent to give it versatility.
32:27Yes, because here we like the same
32:28thing, the same thing, the same thing.
32:30But
32:30not anymore. Here we are going to be
32:32renewing, renewing so that later they
32:34don't say," Oh, no, Abinalu again,
32:36Avinalú again. "No, no, no. Here we
32:38are going to be renewing.
32:39The careen doesn't stop. This woman
32:40wants to do a podcast, she doesn't want
32:41to jump out of the helicopter, she went
32:42to Rome, she came back and
32:44tomorrow we are going to jump out of
32:45the parachute.
32:45Tomorrow she feels like it, Pilates. So
32:47, the woman doesn't stop.
32:48Yes, it's not ideal. I think I don't
32:51stop, like being on trend, always
32:53looking for something to do, like you
32:55too, who spends time checking how many
32:57times a week you go to the stores.
32:59Oh, enough.
33:01Enough. Every time I go I find you
33:03there, so don't tell me. You're also
33:05there all the time. I've been a
33:06compulsive shopper since I was born.
33:07That has nothing to do with my
33:09profession, right? So I always go that
33:11way, but I really like going. Sometimes
33:14I don't go shopping. I'll go see if the
33:16videos are being recorded, what's being
33:18used, why it's being used, and things
33:21that I like for the shoot. Right now,
33:23as I said, the trend with Stylis is
33:25almost always to order, not custom-made
33:27, but different things and garments.
33:28Why? Because fashion is very quiet in
33:31stores and it's summer, all fashion is
33:33very light, relaxed, so these are
33:35things that I don't use for the shoot.
33:37Bring back the wow factor or something
33:39that says," Oh, that's cool, I'm going
33:40to style it like this. You're making me
33:41all heated up. You're making me all
33:43heated up with all the gossip. We're
33:44behind the scenes. The gossip got even
33:48better behind the scenes. There are
33:50things we can't talk about. Well, yes,
33:51we can, but without names.
33:53Luz is going to tell you why we're
33:55talking. Obviously, there are people we
33:58like working with more and there are
33:59people we like working with less. There
34:02are some who go overboard. There are
34:05photographers who go overboard. I mean,
34:06they take 3 hours or they tell me, "I
34:08take an hour per look." Doing what? I
34:11don't take an hour changing them. Or
34:13when it takes me a little while, it's
34:15like, "Hey, I'm going to take a long
34:16time because I'm going to put on the
34:17stockings and they take an hour with a
34:18look." But as a photographer, you agree
34:20that you can't depend so much on your
34:22time, right? And if the client doesn't
34:24give it, there are girls who put in the
34:26effort, others who don't give it, it's
34:27like everything else, you can't give it
34:28to them, right? And you have to help
34:31them, but in heels, with the lights, in
34:34the heat,
34:35right? If you see that one isn't
34:36working for you, discard it and do
34:37another one and you have to find
34:39someone who sticks with it and sticks
34:40with it and, well, add to that, there
34:42are several factors, right? A session
34:44that can drive you crazy, which drives
34:45me crazy. One is time, right? I know
34:48that there are photographers who take
34:49longer than others, there are styles
34:50that take longer than others, you know
34:52that, but since they're going overboard
34:53, you say, hey, what if you
34:55have another event scheduled that you
34:56don't have your time. Of course, don't
34:58fall in love, right? And there are
34:59photographers who seem to do it on
35:01purpose, like, oh no, I'm not That's
35:03how I work.
35:04Oh, look,
35:06I love it when people come to me and
35:08give me fresh ideas too, and tell me, "
35:10Karen, what if you're thinking of doing
35:12this look here? It would look cooler
35:14here." Yes, you're right.
35:15There are photographers that you can't
35:17tell anything to, that you can't
35:19interfere with. At first, I had to work
35:21with two.
35:22There was a man who was hateful,
35:24hateful, hateful, hateful, hateful.
35:26He's not so new anymore. He's old, he's
35:29old. I don't have to work with him
35:30anymore. Thank God. That man thought, I
35:34don't know, Mario Testino, that he knew
35:37who this guy from Bog was, that I would
35:39say, "Hey, girl, I'm going to tell you
35:42what to do." But it was so rude that I
35:46didn't say, "Oh, well, screw my mother,
35:53let her do whatever she wants." It's
35:55also when you say, "Hey, I'm not going
35:57to interfere and hurt her." I mean, I'm
36:00explaining what's happening to me. And
36:02sometimes even the client would notice
36:04and it was like, "Oh no, the
36:05photographer told me this, but I didn't
36:06want that. I
36:09can't do anything right there." No. And
36:10another factor that also affects my
36:12feelings in the sessions is that there
36:14are also mothers who don't behave,
36:16right? They're like, "Put your hair up,
36:20Luz, your hair, your hair." And you're
36:23like, "
36:23No, you're taking the picture from that
36:25angle and you can see the girl's leg
36:26here." Luz, her leg doesn't go like
36:28that. The glove usually goes on, right?
36:30And you obviously already know what to
36:32do, but many times you're not at the
36:33same angle and I always tell them, "
36:35Look, if you're on that side, don't
36:37worry, I'll take it from here." But
36:38there are intense mothers, right? That
36:40the girl's leg is going to show through
36:44her panties and you, uh, shut up. If
36:48you come to the photoshoots, you see
36:50and trust the work of the great team
36:53they bring. Relax, you see, they are
36:56intense and I like the tangles, start
36:58making conversation so that they let
37:00the photographer work. There, the
37:02photographer, well, I tell him, "You
37:03know what? Tell me about the hair,
37:05something, anything, I'll entertain her
37:07because sometimes they don't let you
37:08work. I've had to be on top of the
37:10photographer and the light and...Show
37:12me the photo. Show me." That's why I
37:15don't
37:16use the screen to do the test test
37:18anymore because I bought it and had it
37:19for a while and it was just to see the
37:21photo, I don't know what, and I didn't
37:23discard this screen; I took it home for
37:25the cameras at home. That's why, for
37:28example, it's often done in fashion
37:29photoshoots, right? Where the model
37:31isn't going to get involved and only
37:33the stylist, the creative director,
37:34those kinds of people are going to give
37:36their opinion, but here, when everyone
37:38wants to give their opinion, no, no,
37:40it's not a factor that makes me feel
37:42like a jerk. I've never, it's very rare
37:44, I don't think I've ever fought with a
37:46client, but I have been clear, let's
37:48see, clear. I need to know. What do
37:50they need, what do they want, because
37:51if not, we can't move forward and they
37:53calm down, but it's extreme, right? I
37:55had one time where the girl didn't like
37:57anything. I brought everything you
37:59asked me to, everything. I mean, I did
38:02a whole room of this apartment with all
38:04the looks as she had sent them to me
38:06and it was like, well, this one, but
38:08also this one, but I'd rather try that
38:10one on and I, I mean, that can't be
38:12done in terms of time, guys. Why?
38:15You waste the photographer's time, I
38:16waste my time. You have to trust what
38:18they bring you, they bring it to your
38:19measurements. Well, if you want to do
38:21that, it's also more expensive, right?
38:23You can book an appointment in advance,
38:25an appointment as well. Trying on
38:27clothes doesn't work so much when
38:28you're going to do a photoshoot,
38:29because the point is to do it quickly,
38:31if you're looking at the clothes,
38:32you're looking at yourself, you're not
38:33going to buy them, someone is going to
38:35fit them, they're going to make them
38:36look cool. So, that also makes the job
38:39not work. flow. Why? Because what you
38:41do is they don't trust your time,
38:43they have to trust your process, what
38:44they like and you don't make them flow,
38:45right? Why? Because the photographer is
38:47already there, already there. And you,
38:48well, no, the girl wants to try
38:50everything on, what do we do? I mean,
38:52it's very different working with an
38:53artist or someone like that who you've
38:55already asked me to and I rudely
38:56refused. Okay, it will be, it will be.
38:58Uh, I refused because they're regional
39:00Mexican, not to mention a band. I
39:02refused because of the time it would
39:04take, but he'll come back to me and
39:06we'll dress him. We'll dress him
39:07because he's a man.
39:08Oh, well, they do let you, well. No,
39:10well, they don't. And when it's an
39:12artist, of course, you have to do a
39:14fitting or a test. Why? Because it's
39:16for a stage, for a photo shoot, and
39:17they don't even try on more than a few
39:19things, right? But if it's for the
39:21stage, it's a different performance,
39:22but yes, there's not a lot of funny
39:23anecdotes between them. Photographers,
39:26stylists, that's why it's so important
39:28to work as a team, because you can
39:30quickly control those kinds of little
39:31details or they can lead to a client
39:33play-acting. Nobody wants that to
39:35happen. Nobody, we all think that the
39:36client is going to be happy. Yes. No,
39:38no, no.
39:38The good thing is that I don't have to
39:40deal with that. So, I'm happy and
39:41content with the stylists. Oh, okay,
39:44now I do. Vinal,
39:46when photographers arrive, you also say
39:48, "What's going on?"
39:50But I know that I'm not here, that my
39:51assistant is mostly here because I
39:53don't want them to feel watched or
39:55judged, that Karen is watching me take
39:57this photo for her to take it. Yes, I
39:59want them to arrive and feel that this
40:01is their studio and that they're free
40:02to go up, down, do whatever they want,
40:04put the lamp wherever they want without
40:06anyone judging them. I mean, then I'd
40:08be happy to, if you'd excuse me, they
40:10can stay at home.
40:11Yes, yes, yes. So, no, I want my
40:13assistant to give them all the
40:14attention. that they need.
40:16Yes. No, that's because there's a crowd
40:17at the session.
40:18Oh, that too.
40:19No, no,
40:20no. And it stresses them out too. I'm
40:22feeling
40:22hot again.
40:23The person who's modeling also gets
40:24stressed out. Why? Because many people
40:26are watching, it doesn't flow the same.
40:28It doesn't flow the same. It's better.
40:30No, but if most of them are watching
40:32and there's a scandal and the ones over
40:34there are looking away.
40:35Hey, they’re always the ones that
40:36things happen to, right? I always tell
40:37them, "Oh, look, if you want, stay here
40:39. No, I want to see here." Here, they
40:41knock something down, they cut
40:42themselves or, for example, when we go
40:43to the beach, the burner gets hot and I
40:45, but who brought you? Nobody. When you
40:48go to have your wedding session, just
40:50take the photographer, the stylist and
40:51the bride and groom, and it can be
40:53someone you trust, like, take care of
40:55my cell phone or you know what act.
40:58Because whoever goes with you is
40:59contagious, their attitude is
41:01contagious. I want to ask you a few
41:03more questions because we're going to
41:05wrap up. We're running out of time.
41:07They've got us under pressure here, we
41:09don't have time and there's so much
41:11more to tell.
41:12Part two, part two controversial.
41:14Yes, because she's the first stylist to
41:15come to the podcast, so there's a lot I
41:17want you to know. But we're going to a
41:19wedding, Luz. We're going to transport
41:21ourselves to a wedding. How long in
41:23advance do they need to hire you? What
41:25should the bride and groom take into
41:26account when
41:27planning a wedding photoshoot. I always
41:29tell them that if they're getting
41:31married, it's almost always 6 months
41:33before, Right? 6, 5 months for the
41:35invitations, because I missed that too,
41:37because most people work so they have
41:39time 6 months before. If you're going
41:41to hire me to dress you for a wedding
41:43that's for an event, I always tell them
41:44two weeks, I
41:45do it two weeks before too, I have a
41:47lot of fun. Why? Because here people
41:49dress horribly, horribly for weddings.
41:52Or if it's a beach wedding and they
41:53wear an outfit that has nothing to do
41:55with it. And it complicates things, it
41:57complicates them a lot. I always tell
42:00them when they tell them the formal
42:01dress is long, for men it's a suit, I
42:03mean, don't go around asking if I'm
42:04going to go, no, no, no, it's not long.
42:06I mean, I see it a lot at weddings that
42:08it's out of respect for the bride and
42:09groom. It's a mineral that they're
42:10spending so that you go badly dressed.
42:12It
42:12has all the...
42:13No, that's true. They always ask me if
42:15I'm criticizing. Never, but at my
42:16wedding I was very demanding about the
42:18time they had to go or at my birthday
42:20parties I was demanding when they told
42:21them I asked for a dress code. Now he
42:24asked for a black dress coat, but it
42:26said disco black and I said
42:29disco black. In what aspect? Oh, the
42:31one who is recording us was wearing
42:33white, guys. He was the only one but it
42:34doesn't matter because he gave me a
42:35monetary prize. It's...
42:37Ah, very good. He won me over
42:38with that. He
42:39says he didn't read it, he missed that
42:41the invite said white.
42:42Oh, and that's not what the people on
42:43GTP chat say, who have like a thousand
42:45pieces of information, a
42:46thousand letters. No, but I said disco
42:48black, how is that? Oh, man, well no
42:50more black, the light tells me. Black
42:52and it shines, but yes for weddings,
42:54honestly, guys, if it says formal, long
42:56and suit or tuxedo.
42:57So you also dress the guests, you can
42:59help them put together the outfits for
43:01the bridesmaids, of
43:02course. Sometimes you recommend the
43:04color palette, I recommend this and
43:07super cool.
43:08And when it's a wedding, you know my
43:10vogue is the beach, what do you
43:12recommend they wear? Oh, This, this,
43:14this and this. Also, when I go to the
43:16beach or the garden, it's fluid color,
43:18no heavy things and just have fun. And
43:21wear things that are going to be really
43:23hot. Otherwise, they walk around with
43:24sweaty, sticky butts like right now. I
43:27mean, they walk around with all sweaty
43:29or they wear really heavy things that
43:31are really heavy.
43:33Very heavy makeup. Hair, well, if you
43:35like it loose, that's up to you, but a
43:38little more combed. Yes, yes. Here at
43:40weddings, honestly, people arrive
43:42wearing hats, and men in jeans, that's
43:44my death. Women wear dresses that don't
43:47look bad, but they don't suit the
43:49occasion. Very, very important. And I
43:51tell them, one must respect the bride
43:53and groom because, well, right? So, you
43:55know, you have to hire your stylist 6
43:57months in advance. If it's such an
44:01important session, hire a stylist, the
44:03one you prefer, the one that goes with
44:05you, the one that goes with you. That's
44:09very important, hire a stylist. that
44:11they identify with what they work on.
44:13Oh, I like what they work on. That will
44:16translate into what you wear, right? Be
44:19very careful with those styles, that
44:21have torn things, fancy things and in
44:23the treatment. So be careful with that.
44:25So, listen carefully to the points that
44:28you have to take into account when
44:30hiring a stylist. Uh, more or less, how
44:34much does your service cost for two or
44:36three outfits? S
44:38for the looks. This one, right now, is
44:415800. I already leaned them, advice,
44:42detailing, uh, touch-ups if they want
44:44any changes, it can be done and also, I
44:46always tell them, behave well, I always
44:48make some surprise changes there.
44:52S 5800 and also they have all this good
44:54vibes in succession, the encouragement,
44:56they have fun, we gossip and the photos
44:58come out great. So, please, well, we
45:02are running out of time, or rather we
45:04have already run out, uh, we missed a
45:06lot here for say and unspeakable things
45:08, but if
45:09the angel is going to extort us here
45:12with that information, oh well.
45:15Luz, I'm delighted to have had you in
45:17this space, that you've been here with
45:19us today. It's always super fun to chat
45:23with you, you always learn something.
45:26Whenever I talk to you about fashion,
45:28about whatever you want, I also take
45:30away lessons from you. I know it's not
45:33easy to be where you are right now, at
45:35the point in your career where you are,
45:37where you're already recognized. I
45:38want to retire, I want to retire. No,
45:41well, you're going to put up with it
45:43longer because she's already a very
45:45recognized stylist, she's super cool,
45:47original, she has it all, she has it
45:49all and she gives it her all too.
45:52Oh, no, what a scandal. I'm going to
45:54leave here like a peacock,
45:55right? Really. So, also pay attention
45:58to punctuality, good service, treatment
46:00, everything, everything, everything.
46:03So, don't forget to hire a stylist and
46:05make sure they're what you want, that
46:08they're a responsible person and that
46:10they're solutions. It seems that
46:12Lustán arrived at the studio today.
46:15Relax, let yourselves be pampered and
46:17listen to what we tell you. It's not
46:19because sometimes we don't want to do
46:21things, it's so that things flow better
46:23, right?
46:23And everything goes super well. So you
46:25guys go with the flow, have fun, hire
46:27the one you prefer and yes, hire, uh,
46:29because then you want to hire them and
46:31that's when things go wrong.
46:33No, no, no. Hire. So, I hope you'll
46:36finish the whole podcast so that you
46:38know what to do, what not to do, what a
46:40stylist is, what to bring, what not to
46:42bring, what the costs may be and
46:44everything that happens sometimes.
46:47Hey, we'll have to do part two of the
46:49bad part. Now we'll talk about the good
46:51part.
46:51Well, thank you very much. Thank you,
46:53Luz. I'll leave you your space so you
46:55can say goodbye here with our audience.
46:57I'm
46:57Luz Payán, I'll be waiting for you.
46:59Follow me. Luz over there. I always
47:01like to teach you, as Karen says, I
47:02always share everything with you. Apart
47:03from my work, I like to bring you
47:05trends, what to do, where to find the
47:07things you like and follow me on my
47:08social networks, Luz Pay on Instagram.
47:11Perfect, then we say goodbye. Go
47:14everyone. Thanks for watching the
47:17podcast until the end. See you later.
47:20Bye.

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