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Knowing Who, Knowing How: Mingei in the 21st Century | Mingei International Museum — Transcript

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  1. 0:05join me in welcoming glenn adamson the
  2. 0:09first joyce axelrod lecturer at menge
  3. 0:12international museum
  4. 0:22hello everybody
  5. 0:23it's a bit of a build up i hope i can
  6. 0:25live up to it um
  7. 0:27so here i am at the most beautiful
  8. 0:29podium on earth
  9. 0:32and what i think is the most beautiful
  10. 0:33craft museum on earth so congratulations
  11. 0:37to everybody
  12. 0:39um and can we also uh hear it again for
  13. 0:42joyce isn't she wonderful
  14. 0:45[Applause]
  15. 0:47and uh finally i do want to acknowledge
  16. 0:49two other people that are in the room
  17. 0:50because we are in the luminous presence
  18. 0:53of two of the greatest figures in the
  19. 0:55history of the craft arts wendy mariama
  20. 0:58and arlene fish
  21. 0:59[Applause]
  22. 1:07yeah this is a heck of a town for craft
  23. 1:10so it's a great place to be uh speaking
  24. 1:12about this subject
  25. 1:14so what i'm going to try to do for you
  26. 1:16this evening is give you a sense of
  27. 1:18actually where this museum came from so
  28. 1:21what is the history of the ming movement
  29. 1:23what is minge anyway
  30. 1:25and then um hopefully that will be um
  31. 1:28you know familiar to many of you but
  32. 1:30then what i also want to do is talk a
  33. 1:31little bit about what minge might mean
  34. 1:33in the 21st century you know it's an
  35. 1:36idea
  36. 1:37that comes to us from you know over a
  37. 1:39hundred years ago now um the term itself
  38. 1:43is an abbreviation as many of you will
  39. 1:46know from minchiteki koge
  40. 1:48uh and believe me i don't speak japanese
  41. 1:50so don't worry i won't be shifting into
  42. 1:52that mode um but it the the term means
  43. 1:54the art of the everyday people
  44. 1:57right so it is
  45. 1:59i suppose roughly comparable to folk art
  46. 2:03in our uh english language but there's
  47. 2:05really nothing exactly parallel to it
  48. 2:07partly because the idea of the common
  49. 2:09people in japan has a certain resonance
  50. 2:11or historical resonance and it's maybe a
  51. 2:13little bit free of that notion of class
  52. 2:15as we might understand it so it's um you
  53. 2:18could say the creative expression of a
  54. 2:20whole
  55. 2:21realm a whole set of walks of life so
  56. 2:24here's the the full phrase in in
  57. 2:25japanese
  58. 2:27and then there are some competing uh
  59. 2:28terminology that you also might like to
  60. 2:30know about for example bijutsu koge
  61. 2:33which is essentially
  62. 2:35beautiful artistic crafts so maybe
  63. 2:37comparable to what we would say is the
  64. 2:39arts and crafts movement or the studio
  65. 2:41craft movement so craft leaning in the
  66. 2:43direction of fine art and then you also
  67. 2:46have the wonderful term crafto
  68. 2:48which comes with that sound effect
  69. 2:52which of course is the japanese
  70. 2:53transliteration of the word craft and
  71. 2:56i'm informed that this actually entered
  72. 2:58the japanese language in the post-war
  73. 3:00era let's say the late 1940s during the
  74. 3:02occupation and originally it meant
  75. 3:05mass-produced things that look like
  76. 3:08they're crafted that we can export to
  77. 3:10america
  78. 3:12but now it's in more general usage as a
  79. 3:15you know essentially an analog for the
  80. 3:17way that craft is developed in europe
  81. 3:19and america so that's just a little bit
  82. 3:21of a sampling of the linguistic cluster
  83. 3:24that exists around this concept in which
  84. 3:26minge sits in this very interesting way
  85. 3:29the the movement itself as i'm sure
  86. 3:32you're all aware
  87. 3:33was devised and led by soetsu yanagi an
  88. 3:36incredibly interesting person in
  89. 3:38japanese intellectual and art history
  90. 3:41you see him here
  91. 3:43the way that he established this concept
  92. 3:46the multiple streams really but the most
  93. 3:48important of them were through the
  94. 3:50establishment of a kind of avant-garde
  95. 3:54circle of like-minded aesthetes and
  96. 3:56intellectuals which was called shirakaba
  97. 3:58which means white birch and you see
  98. 4:00there on the left hand side
  99. 4:02cover of one of the shirakawa journals
  100. 4:04that he and his codery published and
  101. 4:07also of course he collected very
  102. 4:09actively and in a very interesting way
  103. 4:12because he collected not only the works
  104. 4:15of his own circle so craftspeople that
  105. 4:18he knew and had a kind of alliance with
  106. 4:21also of course as the term menge implies
  107. 4:24the work of the common people of japan
  108. 4:27but what's really fascinating is that he
  109. 4:29then extended that idea on an
  110. 4:32international basis so it was a global
  111. 4:35vision of the expression of the people
  112. 4:37the implication here being of course
  113. 4:39that
  114. 4:40underneath we're all the same that all
  115. 4:42cultures have something in common that
  116. 4:44there's a kind of creative lifeblood
  117. 4:46that runs through
  118. 4:48all global creative expressions
  119. 4:52and so when martha long and ecker and
  120. 4:54her you know her friends then founded
  121. 4:57this museum many years later and it
  122. 5:00bears the name of course today the minge
  123. 5:02international
  124. 5:03museum
  125. 5:04you have an absolute inheritance of that
  126. 5:07idea of a shared universal notion of
  127. 5:10artistic creativity very very powerful
  128. 5:13and you could say something that's very
  129. 5:14precious and needs defending and
  130. 5:16championing and a great deal of advocacy
  131. 5:19so direct lineage there from
  132. 5:21yanagi
  133. 5:23it's also important to note perhaps that
  134. 5:26he had in mind a kind of paragon model
  135. 5:29when thinking about this which was not
  136. 5:31japanese but was rather korean
  137. 5:34and this was because he had spent a
  138. 5:36great deal of time in korea those of you
  139. 5:38who have read his beautiful book the
  140. 5:40unknown craftsman will perhaps remember
  141. 5:42his passage about this object which is
  142. 5:45uh called the kizaimon ido bowl you know
  143. 5:48is the type of bowl and kazamon is the
  144. 5:50name of the bowl you might know that
  145. 5:52objects of particularly um
  146. 5:55high importance objects that are
  147. 5:56venerated particularly within the
  148. 5:57context of the tea ceremony often are
  149. 5:59given names in japan very poetic names
  150. 6:02so this is the kazymon t-ball
  151. 6:04and i'm just going to do what i
  152. 6:06understand rob does whenever anyone
  153. 6:08joins the ming museum staff to wit read
  154. 6:11to you from yanagi because this is part
  155. 6:14of the uh the sort of boot camp of uh
  156. 6:17joining the staff here so
  157. 6:18the um
  158. 6:19the lines that i have chosen which i'll
  159. 6:21just let you read are
  160. 6:24what he wrote about because i'm on t
  161. 6:26bull and it's a very interesting passage
  162. 6:30i'll just give you a chance to read it
  163. 6:33particularly interesting here i thought
  164. 6:34is this idea that it is one of many
  165. 6:37so there is a sense in which this one
  166. 6:40bowl
  167. 6:41has been plucked
  168. 6:43from
  169. 6:44the entire
  170. 6:45world of ceramics almost arbitrarily as
  171. 6:49if to say any bowl could be
  172. 6:52given the kind of respect that we're
  173. 6:53giving this fall the passage goes on you
  174. 6:56can see here
  175. 6:57here in this part of the
  176. 7:00passage yanagi is expressing what you
  177. 7:02might see is the kind of faults
  178. 7:05of the bowl so it's asymmetries the
  179. 7:07carelessness of it the speed with which
  180. 7:10it's uh it seems to have been made it's
  181. 7:12almost a casual object and something
  182. 7:15that you sense the craftsperson who made
  183. 7:17it didn't actually think about very much
  184. 7:20as it was being made
  185. 7:22which is an extraordinary thing to be
  186. 7:23thinking about an artwork that you're
  187. 7:25holding up for this kind of
  188. 7:28honoring
  189. 7:29but then of course he finishes
  190. 7:32by saying this is the soul the very
  191. 7:34essence of what makes an object powerful
  192. 7:37the fact that the maker did not think
  193. 7:39about it that it was not an object of
  194. 7:41self-consciousness
  195. 7:43that it was an object that seemed to
  196. 7:45grow naturally organically from the
  197. 7:47spirit of the maker and the culture
  198. 7:50of which the maker is a part this is
  199. 7:52what gives the ball power this is what
  200. 7:54makes this object aesthetically resonant
  201. 7:58now of course the problem for yanagi and
  202. 8:01his
  203. 8:02uh his allies was that
  204. 8:05they were not
  205. 8:07anonymous
  206. 8:08peasant potters were they
  207. 8:10they were extremely sophisticated
  208. 8:12cosmopolitan estates and they could
  209. 8:14certainly
  210. 8:16go around and collect objects of this
  211. 8:19type and here i'm showing you a few
  212. 8:20examples the kinds of things that they
  213. 8:22loved and are also of course here in the
  214. 8:24mingue ming
  215. 8:25and whenever i have an object that's
  216. 8:27from the minge collection i've just put
  217. 8:29the logo there just so you'll know
  218. 8:31so for example this wonderful boro
  219. 8:34textile which is a kind of recycling or
  220. 8:37upcycling we might say today of scrap
  221. 8:38textiles often indigo dyed that are
  222. 8:42used in the japanese context for
  223. 8:43garments and other
  224. 8:44textile usages or a beautiful basket
  225. 8:47like the one that you see here just this
  226. 8:49the gorgeousness of this shape again
  227. 8:51from yanagi's point of view would have
  228. 8:53come
  229. 8:54out uh spontaneously through the process
  230. 8:58through the deep
  231. 8:59embodied and embedded
  232. 9:01lifelong
  233. 9:03one knowledge of the maker
  234. 9:05or finally this example um have any of
  235. 9:08you by chance uh read edmond duval's
  236. 9:10book the hair with the amber eyes yes
  237. 9:12yes okay so he's his netscape which is
  238. 9:14the you know netscape the little toggle
  239. 9:16that you wear on the cord off the in row
  240. 9:18which is um you know the little weight
  241. 9:20for that carrier that japanese people
  242. 9:22have uh edmund's book which is so
  243. 9:25wonderful um he was writing about just
  244. 9:27one hair and you can see here that the
  245. 9:29minge version has three uh rabbits so
  246. 9:31you know that's good going but um
  247. 9:34again this would have been an honored
  248. 9:36venerated craft passed down uh in japan
  249. 9:39in this case generation after generation
  250. 9:42um a kind of professional tradesman-like
  251. 9:44attitude to making rather than again
  252. 9:47this is the key point a self-conscious
  253. 9:50and authored form of creativity
  254. 9:53so
  255. 9:54this is a an extremely powerful model
  256. 9:57that he imparted to us
  257. 9:59not only through his writings as i said
  258. 10:02the unknown craftsman the translated uh
  259. 10:04writings
  260. 10:05uh being the most uh influential of
  261. 10:07those probably but also his collecting
  262. 10:09um at the minge con or the crafts museum
  263. 10:12in tokyo that he helped found
  264. 10:15and also through the influence that he
  265. 10:16exerted on his colleagues like for
  266. 10:19example shoji hamada
  267. 10:21the wonderful potter
  268. 10:23who was right there with the nagis who
  269. 10:25was formulating these ideas
  270. 10:28hamada as you can see here
  271. 10:30to somewhat to some extent affected the
  272. 10:32kind of guise of a peasant uh in his
  273. 10:35bearing he was very humble not a man of
  274. 10:37tremendously many words himself he let
  275. 10:39yanagi do the talking um and very
  276. 10:41spontaneous in his work as you can see
  277. 10:43from the wonderful way in which he
  278. 10:45manipulates uh glaze and oxide slips in
  279. 10:49decorating his wonderful in this case
  280. 10:51tenmoku glazed ceramics
  281. 10:54but you can see here
  282. 10:56you know in his sort of la corbie j
  283. 10:58style glasses that he's also a band of
  284. 11:00the world right very much like inagi he
  285. 11:04is extremely self-conscious he's
  286. 11:06certainly not anonymous
  287. 11:08right he is an author of this work and
  288. 11:10in some ways an author of objects that
  289. 11:13express this paradoxical idea of what it
  290. 11:16is to be a sophisticated person of the
  291. 11:1720th century almost aspiring to the
  292. 11:21condition of anonymity
  293. 11:23so it's a kind of impossible goal that
  294. 11:26this generation of theorists and makers
  295. 11:27have in mind they want to have
  296. 11:30the
  297. 11:31simplicity the beautiful simplicity the
  298. 11:34unpretentious simplicity of people who
  299. 11:36can do no other than what they are
  300. 11:38making
  301. 11:40and yet they're doing it in a highly
  302. 11:42self-aware way
  303. 11:43that comes through long study collecting
  304. 11:46theorization writing conversation travel
  305. 11:50fascinating contradiction and one that i
  306. 11:52would suggest we all again have within
  307. 11:55us now because we all want to have a
  308. 11:58real connection to the world around us
  309. 12:00and yet we're also presented at every
  310. 12:02turn with mediation with digitization um
  311. 12:06with commodification all these things
  312. 12:08that threaten to distance us from
  313. 12:09beautiful objects like this podium right
  314. 12:12so whenever we're confronted with a
  315. 12:13craft object particularly we're brought
  316. 12:16face to face with that challenge with
  317. 12:18that kind of paradox that the one on the
  318. 12:20one hand we just want to hold it
  319. 12:22and feel it and test its weight against
  320. 12:25the weight of our own body know the
  321. 12:27means of its own making
  322. 12:29by some kind of intuitive connection and
  323. 12:32we can feel that power and on the other
  324. 12:34hand we might wonder well should it be
  325. 12:36in an art gallery how much should it
  326. 12:38cost should we put it on our instagram
  327. 12:40feed
  328. 12:41right so that we we have our own way of
  329. 12:44working through that set of
  330. 12:44contradictions but in many ways this
  331. 12:46generation were the first to confront
  332. 12:49them
  333. 12:49now um just to say that
  334. 12:52there were many um adherents of the
  335. 12:55ming movement
  336. 12:56a particularly fascinating one is shiro
  337. 12:58monicata the printmaker see the same
  338. 13:01glasses or similar anyway
  339. 13:03who again cultivated a kind of
  340. 13:05reputation and almost an affect of
  341. 13:08vigorous semi-eccentricity
  342. 13:12incidentally a pose that had been well
  343. 13:14established in japan and china for many
  344. 13:16years the idea of the literate literati
  345. 13:19or somebody who would
  346. 13:20again pose a kind of
  347. 13:23madness even
  348. 13:24possibly as a way of disengaging with
  349. 13:26contemporary political life and again
  350. 13:28connecting with something pure or
  351. 13:29something more authentic something
  352. 13:31deeper so again there's a lot of east
  353. 13:33asian artistic tradition flowing into
  354. 13:36this movement that someone like munakata
  355. 13:37exemplifies
  356. 13:39and as i said many of these figures
  357. 13:42got particular
  358. 13:44influence and inspiration from korea now
  359. 13:47one thing that's worth mentioning is
  360. 13:48that as many of you will know japan of
  361. 13:51course was occupying korea at this time
  362. 13:54and had militarily
  363. 13:56taken it over in i think officially in
  364. 13:591905 korea became a protectorate so it's
  365. 14:02also important to know that the reason
  366. 14:03that yanagi and munakata and hamada had
  367. 14:07such great access to korea was because
  368. 14:10of what we would now consider to be
  369. 14:12quite a hostile and in many ways morally
  370. 14:15reprehensible set of actions on the part
  371. 14:17of the japanese government
  372. 14:19which i can tell you the koreans
  373. 14:20certainly have not forgotten so there's
  374. 14:22a kind of political backdrop to this
  375. 14:24which yanagi himself was acutely aware
  376. 14:26of
  377. 14:28and
  378. 14:29informed his work as well and you can
  379. 14:30often read between the lines that
  380. 14:32there's a kind of unease about that
  381. 14:34relationship and maybe something that
  382. 14:36feels much more immediate to us now
  383. 14:38given what's happening in ukraine you
  384. 14:40know it was that kind of a situation
  385. 14:41frankly that had brought japan into
  386. 14:43korea so that might make us read that
  387. 14:46passage about the table differently in a
  388. 14:48way and it certainly informs the story
  389. 14:50that i'd like to move on to
  390. 14:52which is that of bernard leach
  391. 14:55now leech again a name that probably
  392. 14:56many of you will know worked here in the
  393. 14:58ming collection uh by him was very close
  394. 15:01with hamada particularly leech actually
  395. 15:03was born in hong kong we think of him as
  396. 15:05british but he was actually born in asia
  397. 15:07himself
  398. 15:08and ultimately made his way to japan
  399. 15:11was involved in the shirakawa search
  400. 15:12circle that white birch society that i
  401. 15:15mentioned earlier and began to learn his
  402. 15:18own way through ceramics particularly
  403. 15:20also printmaking drawing a little bit of
  404. 15:22painting
  405. 15:24here you see him actually building a
  406. 15:25kiln with hamada who's the one with the
  407. 15:27kerchief on his head um here's a
  408. 15:29wonderful early picture of leech
  409. 15:32aren't those fantastic slippers
  410. 15:35and there's a great bull
  411. 15:37and gay collection here
  412. 15:39so
  413. 15:40again you can see exactly the same type
  414. 15:42of person and in many ways he is very
  415. 15:44much the british equivalent to yanagi so
  416. 15:47much so that the unknown craftsman the
  417. 15:49book i've mentioned a couple of times
  418. 15:50which many of you will have read was
  419. 15:52actually translated under leach's watch
  420. 15:54and publicized under leech's watch so
  421. 15:56the reason that you've read that book if
  422. 15:58you have read it and if you haven't you
  423. 15:59should um but uh
  424. 16:02the reason that we have that book at all
  425. 16:03is because of leach in fact and he's
  426. 16:05really to credit for much of yanagi's
  427. 16:06influence both in america and in england
  428. 16:10but the story that i want to tell you
  429. 16:12is to do with this amazing object which
  430. 16:15is called the moon jar
  431. 16:18again one of many this was a typical
  432. 16:20form made in korea
  433. 16:22particularly during the cho song dynasty
  434. 16:2416th and 17th century expresses a kind
  435. 16:26of confusion set of values about purity
  436. 16:29simplicity you can see it's undecorated
  437. 16:31it's simply made of thrown porcelain
  438. 16:33those of you who are potters will have
  439. 16:35already spotted that it would have been
  440. 16:37very difficult indeed to make in one
  441. 16:39piece and it wasn't
  442. 16:40so the way that it was created was to
  443. 16:42create was to throw two bowl forms and
  444. 16:45then join them at the rims so one of
  445. 16:47them is upside down on the other and you
  446. 16:49can see
  447. 16:50there
  448. 16:51that there's a kind of irregularity
  449. 16:53where the potter has
  450. 16:55put these two
  451. 16:56hemispheres half domes together and this
  452. 16:59is a point of great appreciation for
  453. 17:00what it's worth in the connoisseurship
  454. 17:02of moon jars the way that that seam is
  455. 17:05actually executed and the the fact that
  456. 17:07it's not exactly round so it has a kind
  457. 17:10of wonky uh beautiful irregularity very
  458. 17:13similar to what yanagi was writing about
  459. 17:15with respect to the kazymon bowl
  460. 17:18now leech actually believe it or not you
  461. 17:21know if you go to the the great national
  462. 17:23museum in seoul now you'll see many of
  463. 17:25these and they're considered national
  464. 17:26treasures
  465. 17:28leach when he was there in the 20s again
  466. 17:30under japanese occupation um he was able
  467. 17:33to buy one of these at a thrift store or
  468. 17:35like an antique store and just card at
  469. 17:37home with him to england
  470. 17:39certainly wouldn't happen today but um
  471. 17:42much to his credit he understood it as
  472. 17:43one of the great masterpieces he had
  473. 17:45ever encountered
  474. 17:47and what's really remarkable is that
  475. 17:49then during the second world war he was
  476. 17:51absolutely petrified that it would be
  477. 17:53bombed
  478. 17:54in his place in london and so he brought
  479. 17:58it to his friend
  480. 17:59lucy rhee who again you might have heard
  481. 18:01of the great viennese modernist potter
  482. 18:04you see her here in later life
  483. 18:06uh wonderful early uh functional teacup
  484. 18:09there on on the left uh here in mingue
  485. 18:11in fact there's a whole tea set here
  486. 18:13with this beautiful iron
  487. 18:15oxide articulation of the rims you know
  488. 18:19one of one of the most surpassingly
  489. 18:20skilled
  490. 18:22and tasteful of all
  491. 18:23modern potters really so
  492. 18:26he felt that lucy lived in somewhat
  493. 18:28safer part of london less likely uh to
  494. 18:30actually be attacked by the germans and
  495. 18:32he gave her the moon jar and boy did she
  496. 18:35keep it
  497. 18:36a decade after decade bird leech never
  498. 18:39had it back in his possession and
  499. 18:41ultimately it did make its way into the
  500. 18:44into the uh british museum and
  501. 18:46fascinatingly during a project that i
  502. 18:48worked on at yale which was about the
  503. 18:49history of british ceramics we actually
  504. 18:51uncovered a letter between what was sent
  505. 18:53by leach to re
  506. 18:55essentially saying that
  507. 18:57in so many words he was in love with her
  508. 18:59but couldn't do anything about it so he
  509. 19:01was going to give her the moon jar
  510. 19:02instead as a token of his
  511. 19:05romantic affection so it's this object
  512. 19:07that's absolutely humming with
  513. 19:09significance
  514. 19:11and you know one of the great things
  515. 19:12about it is that without going too
  516. 19:14deeply into this part of the story you
  517. 19:16know for leech it would have represented
  518. 19:19tradition what he called the tap root
  519. 19:21you know the way that an object connects
  520. 19:22you to past centuries and as i said it
  521. 19:24is a 17th century object
  522. 19:26for re
  523. 19:27who was you know from vienna it was the
  524. 19:29city of the secession it was a city of
  525. 19:31the avant-garde
  526. 19:32and she was the living exponent of that
  527. 19:35tradition
  528. 19:36the future facing modernism that had
  529. 19:38come to ceramics he was perhaps
  530. 19:40unsurpassed in that quality so you have
  531. 19:42this great traditionalist giving an
  532. 19:44object to a great modernist and of
  533. 19:46course the object makes complete sense
  534. 19:48in both contexts it is an example of
  535. 19:51tradition and what tradition holds and
  536. 19:53carries but it is also a beautiful
  537. 19:55abstract object an unimprovable abstract
  538. 19:58object and you can see how close uh ree
  539. 20:01was to it and in fact she wore white
  540. 20:04almost always and i always wonder that
  541. 20:06an idea that came about because of the
  542. 20:07moon jar itself this by the way is a
  543. 20:09photograph taken by the great lord
  544. 20:11snowden he's married to princess
  545. 20:13margaret and if you've seen the crown uh
  546. 20:15lord snowden's a great character in that
  547. 20:17so he took that photo wonderful photo
  548. 20:20okay so that's a great story to show how
  549. 20:22minge brushes the
  550. 20:24sort of ideology if you could put it
  551. 20:26that way of minge brushes up against
  552. 20:27these other artistic value systems and
  553. 20:30can find common cause with them
  554. 20:32another fascinating thing about minge is
  555. 20:34that true to its international roots its
  556. 20:36global uh and pervasive um vision of
  557. 20:41world creativity it did in fact make its
  558. 20:43way into all sorts of unexpected places
  559. 20:46and another uh conduit for that was a
  560. 20:51fascinating man called michael cardu
  561. 20:54there's a wonderful book called the last
  562. 20:55sane man which is a biography of michael
  563. 20:58cardu that my dear friend and mentor
  564. 21:00tanya herrod the greatest british craft
  565. 21:02historian uh wrote a couple of years ago
  566. 21:04i highly recommend it if you've read the
  567. 21:06unknown craftsman and you've also read
  568. 21:08the hair with the amber eyes and you
  569. 21:09don't know what to read next read the
  570. 21:10last saying man we'll fit right in
  571. 21:12and so here's cardu
  572. 21:14who was an apprentice of leeches and
  573. 21:17imbibed his philosophy
  574. 21:19fully and enthusiastically
  575. 21:21here in this piece that you can see on
  576. 21:23the left
  577. 21:24he's really emulating british slipware
  578. 21:27and there was a whole interesting
  579. 21:28conversation between leach and cardu and
  580. 21:30other potters
  581. 21:31in england about what the the sort of
  582. 21:34british version of chinese song dynasty
  583. 21:37pottery or japanese tea ceramics would
  584. 21:39be and they settled on the 17th century
  585. 21:41slipware as having again this kind of
  586. 21:43anonymous expressive quality to it but
  587. 21:46fascinatingly during the period of
  588. 21:48british imperial expansion almost an
  589. 21:51echo of what japan had done in korea
  590. 21:53cardio found himself in west africa
  591. 21:55originally
  592. 21:56making you know roof tiles and you know
  593. 21:59sections of water pipe but ultimately
  594. 22:02coming into contact with another of the
  595. 22:04great figures of 20th century ceramics
  596. 22:06lottie quali uh who you see here on the
  597. 22:08left and this is one of her great water
  598. 22:10jars on the right with this inscrip
  599. 22:13inscribed or scrafito decoration
  600. 22:16taken from her traditional guari culture
  601. 22:18and then given this very modern glaze
  602. 22:20and in fact it's a modern material as
  603. 22:22well because it's made of stone wear so
  604. 22:24a high-fired earthenware body rather
  605. 22:26than sorry a high-fired ceramic body
  606. 22:29rather than the lower-fired earthenware
  607. 22:31that would have been used in west africa
  608. 22:33prior to cardio's arrival so it's sort
  609. 22:35of cardio importing technology
  610. 22:37and quality perfecting it for her own
  611. 22:39traditional knowledge
  612. 22:42and then just to take the story a little
  613. 22:44bit further
  614. 22:45uh magdaleno dundo
  615. 22:47another great potter
  616. 22:50who is kenya born
  617. 22:51british trained went to central saint
  618. 22:53martins
  619. 22:54she makes her way down to west africa to
  620. 22:57nigeria and works as it were
  621. 22:59atlantically's knee learning uh skills
  622. 23:02and again a philosophy from her
  623. 23:05and makes objects like the one on the
  624. 23:07right and she's now named magdaleno
  625. 23:10dundo and is one of the most respected
  626. 23:12figures in the british art world many
  627. 23:14exhibitions happened in past couple of
  628. 23:16years and it's just fascinating to think
  629. 23:18that in a way she is a fourth generation
  630. 23:22minge figure right because you have
  631. 23:24inagi
  632. 23:26leech
  633. 23:27cardu
  634. 23:28quali actually fifth and then magdalene
  635. 23:30and then maybe here is a sixth
  636. 23:32generation uh minge figure and this is
  637. 23:36the story coming full circle because
  638. 23:37this is a japanese artist
  639. 23:39akiko harai who's come to london again
  640. 23:42to train in an art school and makes moon
  641. 23:44jars
  642. 23:46like the one that you see on the right
  643. 23:48and
  644. 23:48we had this in the yale show and um one
  645. 23:51of the educators docens by the way i
  646. 23:53love docents educators so there are any
  647. 23:56of you in the room thank you for what
  648. 23:57you do um the living soul of the museum
  649. 24:00sector as far as i'm concerned one of
  650. 24:02the docents i heard her say to um
  651. 24:05her audience that you know if like the
  652. 24:08korean moon jar was like looking at the
  653. 24:10moon
  654. 24:11in the night sky then akiko horiz moon
  655. 24:14jar was like landing on the moon and you
  656. 24:16know the apollo 11 mission and putting
  657. 24:19your boots in the rocks right so it's
  658. 24:21incredibly textural
  659. 24:23again using totally different materials
  660. 24:25from the traditional korean choson
  661. 24:27dynasty moon jar but extending that
  662. 24:29tradition and you but you can see
  663. 24:31so much
  664. 24:33of what yanagi saw in the kazymon bowl
  665. 24:36in akiko horiz moon jar all that feeling
  666. 24:40that
  667. 24:41power that resonance that an object can
  668. 24:44have
  669. 24:45but again it's authored you know i just
  670. 24:47told you it's made by akiko hawaii it's
  671. 24:49sold in an art gallery it's not coming
  672. 24:51out of that vernacular folk context at
  673. 24:53all and so again we're presented with
  674. 24:55this kind of conundrum if
  675. 24:58it weren't for the tradition
  676. 25:00the vernacular tradition
  677. 25:03of korean pottery
  678. 25:05then arguably akiko hurai would never
  679. 25:07have been able to make this object now
  680. 25:09you can easily say well yes glenn but if
  681. 25:12not for abstract expressionism
  682. 25:14probably akiko hurai wouldn't have made
  683. 25:16this object either and that's true but
  684. 25:18it does put us in a position where to
  685. 25:20have these
  686. 25:21seemingly perfect or fully resolved
  687. 25:23craft objects artistically expressive
  688. 25:25craft objects
  689. 25:27we seem to depend on
  690. 25:30craft cultures folk cultures that are
  691. 25:34either
  692. 25:35disappearing or already gone
  693. 25:38and how do we cope with that
  694. 25:40particularly as technology
  695. 25:42and media social and otherwise expand on
  696. 25:45and on and on and be beginning to crush
  697. 25:48all these very fragile craft cultures
  698. 25:50underfoot
  699. 25:51now this brings me to the big question
  700. 25:53which is what does mean game mean now
  701. 25:56what does it mean in the 21st century
  702. 25:58certainly it perhaps looks like this you
  703. 26:00know it looks like an absolutely
  704. 26:02gorgeous artistically expressive object
  705. 26:04made by somebody who's informed by the
  706. 26:06mengay tradition
  707. 26:08but i think it means more than that it's
  708. 26:10more than simply a group of individual
  709. 26:12objects it is still a philosophy
  710. 26:16there's maybe even a politics to it of a
  711. 26:17kind politics with a small p don't worry
  712. 26:20um there there's certainly an aesthetic
  713. 26:23set of principles
  714. 26:24and so that's what i want to explore in
  715. 26:25the second half of the talk minge now
  716. 26:28now first of all i should say that i'm
  717. 26:30not the first person to stumble onto
  718. 26:31this topic
  719. 26:33for example i found this
  720. 26:35online which i thought was absolutely
  721. 26:37hilarious because the idea that you
  722. 26:38would be really interested in minge but
  723. 26:40only have two minutes to spare
  724. 26:42was absolutely the quintessence of the
  725. 26:44dilemma
  726. 26:45that i've been trying to describe
  727. 26:48this kind of
  728. 26:50you know um almost name checking of
  729. 26:52minge as if it were itself a kind of
  730. 26:55brand rather than a philosophy
  731. 26:58is um part and parcel of a whole
  732. 27:00phenomenon of
  733. 27:03uh
  734. 27:04sort of advertising culture and uh you
  735. 27:07know commercial mediation around the
  736. 27:09concept of craft and you can pick your
  737. 27:11own examples two that particularly have
  738. 27:13uh
  739. 27:14have entertained and amused me or blown
  740. 27:16away the
  741. 27:18reality tv show about glassblowing where
  742. 27:20one person has to win and you know one
  743. 27:22person is kicked off every week it's
  744. 27:24basically the british bake off but with
  745. 27:26glass um or in fact the
  746. 27:29great pottery throwdown which is the
  747. 27:31british bake off but with pottery and
  748. 27:32actually in britain and spoiler alert
  749. 27:35ryan won the first season here um
  750. 27:38but um you know this is craft that's
  751. 27:40been packaged and staged and you know in
  752. 27:44a way that's wonderful what would not be
  753. 27:46great about a tv show about pottery or
  754. 27:49glass that might inspire somebody to
  755. 27:51take up that craft and maybe even
  756. 27:53dedicate their life to it i'm all for
  757. 27:55that but at the same time if you've seen
  758. 27:57one of these shows
  759. 27:58or any one of the innumerable other
  760. 28:00examples of craft being
  761. 28:03invoked in this way my favorite example
  762. 28:04by the way which i don't have an image
  763. 28:06of but i did see on a street corner in
  764. 28:08manhattan once was a big sign that said
  765. 28:11please come see our handcrafted
  766. 28:13condominiums
  767. 28:16so
  768. 28:17this this kind of
  769. 28:19this kind of exploitation
  770. 28:21of craft uh
  771. 28:23for specific the specific purposes of
  772. 28:25commercial success this of course would
  773. 28:27have been absolutely anathema to yanagi
  774. 28:31to leech
  775. 28:32all the figures that i've shown you so
  776. 28:33far certainly to cardu who was extremely
  777. 28:36left-wing and really anti-capitalist
  778. 28:38there was a reason he ended up in a
  779. 28:40small village making pottery alongside
  780. 28:42lady quality you know so
  781. 28:44again we have this this kind of strange
  782. 28:47um incommensurate uh double vision of
  783. 28:50craft where on the one hand it's the
  784. 28:52stuff of advertising on the on the other
  785. 28:53hand it's the stuff of taproot as leach
  786. 28:56called it and what could be less rooted
  787. 28:59arguably than advertising culture
  788. 29:01now recently we've had some very
  789. 29:03interesting turns in the tale
  790. 29:06you know our least favorite subject the
  791. 29:07coronavirus has had something to do with
  792. 29:10it there was a weird explosion of covid
  793. 29:13related crafts
  794. 29:14which i have to say probably the main
  795. 29:16gay museum in 20 years will do a show
  796. 29:18about this and people who are only you
  797. 29:20know two years old now will just shake
  798. 29:22their heads and wonder
  799. 29:24what happened so we have you know um how
  800. 29:26to make a coronavirus model out of
  801. 29:29plasticine we have coronavirus
  802. 29:32um pinatas we have rather wonderfully um
  803. 29:36this uh this hong kong based artist um
  804. 29:40and then
  805. 29:41making these wonderful sculptural masks
  806. 29:44it's like well why not you know if you
  807. 29:46have to wear one why not do as with
  808. 29:48style and some some degree of conviction
  809. 29:51and so
  810. 29:52this is just the latest example and in
  811. 29:54fact to be serious um maybe this was
  812. 29:56true in many of your cases or your
  813. 29:58family's cases craft was actually a way
  814. 30:00for people to get through the period of
  815. 30:01lockdown especially people with children
  816. 30:03um you know a way to get the hours to
  817. 30:05pass in something like a humane fashion
  818. 30:08uh and so it was really something people
  819. 30:10clinged on to desperately and there was
  820. 30:12even a point when there was not enough
  821. 30:14personal protective equipment to go
  822. 30:16around when craft
  823. 30:18based you know maker spaces were
  824. 30:20actually leaping into the fray and
  825. 30:22making masks and uh protective face
  826. 30:24shields and other protective gear for
  827. 30:26hospitals so you know it's a real thing
  828. 30:28that crafts comes to the fore at a
  829. 30:30moment of emergency
  830. 30:31um but you know that
  831. 30:33unusual set of circumstances aside
  832. 30:36i think what's been actually more
  833. 30:37typical
  834. 30:38is
  835. 30:39craft
  836. 30:40meeting that culture of mediation that
  837. 30:43image saturation that we all are so
  838. 30:44familiar with meaning that culture
  839. 30:46halfway
  840. 30:48so this is a show that uh actually
  841. 30:50happened at the museum of arts and
  842. 30:51design when i was director there which
  843. 30:52was called japanese koge future forward
  844. 30:55that included um about ten
  845. 30:57contemporary really uh forward-looking
  846. 30:59future future facing uh crafts people of
  847. 31:02whom probably the most prominent whose
  848. 31:04work you see there in the foreground is
  849. 31:06takoro kawata
  850. 31:07um
  851. 31:08who makes these absolutely amazing uh
  852. 31:10pots as you can see with very vivid
  853. 31:13color oversized they're like tea bowls
  854. 31:15that have been shot through with
  855. 31:16steroids and then subjected to an anime
  856. 31:18film for 24 hours
  857. 31:21and um you know they're absolutely
  858. 31:23extraordinary extremely sculptural uh
  859. 31:25have all the kind of expressionist
  860. 31:26qualities of akiko harai but also an
  861. 31:28incredible pop technicolor
  862. 31:31uh palette and sensibility and what does
  863. 31:33he do with them of course he puts them
  864. 31:34on his instagram feed which as you can
  865. 31:36see is very popular there we go he's
  866. 31:38almost up to 40 000 followers last i
  867. 31:40checked um which might be even more than
  868. 31:43the main guy i don't know i haven't
  869. 31:44checked but you know here's a potter
  870. 31:46whose career is being carried out in
  871. 31:48public on social media and also in uh
  872. 31:51very you know high high um high quality
  873. 31:54blue chip art galleries he shows in new
  874. 31:56york with salon 94.
  875. 31:58um so what's fascinating to think about
  876. 32:01is to what extent here is the image
  877. 32:03proceeding
  878. 32:04and affecting the object so here's you
  879. 32:07know one of his pots here right here's
  880. 32:09the pot
  881. 32:11so you can see it properly
  882. 32:13and i would suggest to you that this is
  883. 32:16a pot that has been
  884. 32:18made with the awareness of its own
  885. 32:21photographic reproduction in mind and
  886. 32:23let me tell you it looks amazing in
  887. 32:24person but it also looks amazing on the
  888. 32:26screen right
  889. 32:28and it knows that it's going to look
  890. 32:30unamazing on the screen and tucker knows
  891. 32:32that it's going to look amazing on the
  892. 32:34screen and
  893. 32:35salon 94 gallery knows that it's going
  894. 32:38to look amazing on the screen so when i
  895. 32:39say the image proceeds and influences or
  896. 32:42conditions the quality of the object
  897. 32:44that's what i'm talking about it's
  898. 32:46something that if you don't mind a
  899. 32:47little bit of post-modern theory john
  900. 32:49baudrillard who was one of the great
  901. 32:51theorists of post-modernism there's
  902. 32:52someone who went to graduate school
  903. 32:55what he said in 1981 is that the map
  904. 32:58precedes the territory very famous line
  905. 33:00in other words
  906. 33:01the
  907. 33:02charting or reproduction or mimicking or
  908. 33:06imaging of the world begins to affect
  909. 33:08our understanding of the world to the
  910. 33:10extent that we can't any longer
  911. 33:13deal with it on anything like authentic
  912. 33:15terms and of course this is exactly the
  913. 33:17opposite of being gay so if you like in
  914. 33:19one corner
  915. 33:21you know wearing the blue trunks we have
  916. 33:23minge with its dedication to
  917. 33:26reality to tradition
  918. 33:29to cultural continuity and on the other
  919. 33:31hand we have
  920. 33:33call it post-modernism if you like the
  921. 33:34kind of
  922. 33:35stuff we're dealing with all the time
  923. 33:37through our laptops and our phones
  924. 33:39uh in the red trunks in the other corner
  925. 33:42and these two things are duking it out
  926. 33:43in an object like this which in some
  927. 33:46ways is looking winkingly it's kind of
  928. 33:48sidelong at the history of t
  929. 33:49ceremony ceramics you might know about
  930. 33:51the um the technique that's called
  931. 33:53kinsuge where you repair a
  932. 33:56crack in a t-bowl with gold and lacquer
  933. 33:59well this is like kanzugi all over right
  934. 34:01and it's got cracks all over so it's
  935. 34:03this kind of mannerist overly expressive
  936. 34:05version of these traditions and yet at
  937. 34:08the same time again it's a completely
  938. 34:10post-modern object it's spectacular in
  939. 34:13that sense and tucker quad is hardly the
  940. 34:16only person that's been thinking about
  941. 34:17this individual artists are thinking
  942. 34:19about it so here's a british ceramic
  943. 34:21artist who was one of the first to
  944. 34:22effectively use 3d printing
  945. 34:25uh of ceramic that is
  946. 34:27in his work and this is a hilarious uh
  947. 34:30project where he took the portland vase
  948. 34:32the famous roman glass
  949. 34:34object which is also like the moon jar
  950. 34:36that i mentioned before it's also in the
  951. 34:38british museum and then was very
  952. 34:40famously reproduced
  953. 34:42by josiah wedgwood in the 18th century
  954. 34:44in jasperware
  955. 34:45so emulating
  956. 34:46glass in ceramics and now here comes
  957. 34:49michael eaton making the sort of bad
  958. 34:51digital version of this it's like a gif
  959. 34:54you know those little you know 12k
  960. 34:57images um by the way does anyone
  961. 34:59remember when they owned a computer that
  962. 35:00only had 12k of memory but anyway um
  963. 35:03these these bad images very pixelated
  964. 35:06and um you know completely inadequate
  965. 35:09and you look at this image this this
  966. 35:11series of three objects and you think
  967. 35:13boy there's nowhere to go but down right
  968. 35:16i mean
  969. 35:17if you're going to say which of these
  970. 35:18objects has the most integrity obviously
  971. 35:20it would be the original portland vase
  972. 35:22and the wedgewood is sort of in shouting
  973. 35:24distance of that and then the michael
  974. 35:26eden is in some benign dark corner of
  975. 35:29the internet that's completely lost
  976. 35:30connection with it and of course that's
  977. 35:32what eden is getting at i'm not
  978. 35:33saying that that it's his fault i'm
  979. 35:35saying in fact that he's creating a very
  980. 35:38eloquent object of our times but is this
  981. 35:40what we mean when we talk about main
  982. 35:42game in the 21st century or for example
  983. 35:44is minecraft
  984. 35:46what we mean in the 21st century does
  985. 35:48anyone know anyone under the age of
  986. 35:50eight and does anyone know any child
  987. 35:52that's not addicted to minecraft at this
  988. 35:53point it's kind of a universal
  989. 35:56um
  990. 35:57strangely a universal formative
  991. 35:58experience of a general generation and
  992. 36:01you know i often like to say
  993. 36:03that in the world today there are
  994. 36:07vastly more barrels
  995. 36:09being made on minecraft in a so-called
  996. 36:13crafting table
  997. 36:14then there are barrels being made by
  998. 36:17coopers
  999. 36:18right thousands and thousands maybe
  1000. 36:21hundreds of thousands more barrels being
  1001. 36:23made on minecraft totally virtual
  1002. 36:25immaterial
  1003. 36:27non-objects in non-space
  1004. 36:30in this game that's supposedly all about
  1005. 36:33crafting
  1006. 36:34right so is this what we mean
  1007. 36:36not this but this what we mean when we
  1008. 36:40talk about minge in the 21st century i
  1009. 36:42would certainly hope not
  1010. 36:44and yet this seems to be where the
  1011. 36:45action is in some ways so where does
  1012. 36:47this leave us
  1013. 36:49and where does it leave objects
  1014. 36:51that like the kind that the cooper will
  1015. 36:53make have you ever seen a barrel being
  1016. 36:55made by hand by the way have you seen
  1017. 36:56them scorch the inside
  1018. 36:58have you seen them put the hoops on and
  1019. 37:01allow the coops the hoops to
  1020. 37:03um squeeze and tighten around the staves
  1021. 37:06of the barrel by pouring cold water on
  1022. 37:09the hoop so that they hug
  1023. 37:11the wood and the smell of the scorching
  1024. 37:13oak coming out of it it's amazing and
  1025. 37:16hardly anybody does it anymore
  1026. 37:18right so you have this
  1027. 37:21again in some ways very troubling and
  1028. 37:23tragic reality that we all are living in
  1029. 37:25in 2022 where
  1030. 37:28there's a lot of craft running around
  1031. 37:30and it's on tv and it's our computer
  1032. 37:32screens
  1033. 37:33but it's less and less
  1034. 37:35being practiced in reality arguably so
  1035. 37:37where does that leave us where does it
  1036. 37:39leave objects like the ones in the game
  1037. 37:41museum and i had a great but extremely
  1038. 37:44difficult time just picking a few
  1039. 37:45objects of the wonderful online
  1040. 37:47collection by the way we're thinking of
  1041. 37:50course a lot about the building this
  1042. 37:51week but don't um don't miss the online
  1043. 37:54offerings of the mingue as well the
  1044. 37:57online collection um
  1045. 37:59interface is fantastic and it's a great
  1046. 38:01research tool so thank you for making
  1047. 38:02that public to the you know available to
  1048. 38:04the public but you know the confess that
  1049. 38:06these uh basically is the indian version
  1050. 38:08of a quilt um some of you may remember
  1051. 38:10the exhibition uh that happened about
  1052. 38:12this material here and there's a
  1053. 38:14wonderful book that i was just given a
  1054. 38:15copy of um
  1055. 38:16in these wonderful objects where there
  1056. 38:18is no up or down there's a sense of
  1057. 38:20space there's a sense of orientation but
  1058. 38:23it's specific to that maker's
  1059. 38:24imagination or this absolutely beautiful
  1060. 38:28pacific northwest horn spoon look at
  1061. 38:31this object and the grace of the lines
  1062. 38:34of it you know bring koozie your heart
  1063. 38:36out right um and yet again by by an
  1064. 38:39anonymous maker you know just as young
  1065. 38:41said an unknown craftsman
  1066. 38:44or craftswoman perhaps or at the other
  1067. 38:46end of the aesthetic spectrum
  1068. 38:48we have uh more kind of rustic
  1069. 38:52and intuitive objects less refined like
  1070. 38:55this wonderful ugandan
  1071. 38:57airplane hand carved airplane or indeed
  1072. 39:00the objects that are in um
  1073. 39:03the uh the show that uh ted cohen um
  1074. 39:06uh
  1075. 39:07has uh bequeathed to the museum which
  1076. 39:09i'll get back to in a second so what
  1077. 39:11does it mean for these objects and how
  1078. 39:12are we to think about this well i have a
  1079. 39:15few suggestions
  1080. 39:16of how we might think through this
  1081. 39:17problem more productively and so i'm
  1082. 39:20going to offer three different
  1083. 39:22frameworks for thinking about minge in
  1084. 39:24the 21st century
  1085. 39:27uh the first of them is
  1086. 39:29they sound a little surprising at first
  1087. 39:31but i hope i can
  1088. 39:32make them make some kind of sense the
  1089. 39:33first is the idea of the gig economy
  1090. 39:36and de-professionalization the second
  1091. 39:40the second is
  1092. 39:41this uh idea that there is no anonymity
  1093. 39:44anymore and that this conditions are
  1094. 39:46relations to one another on a global
  1095. 39:48basis and the third is the idea of craft
  1096. 39:51as a possible common ground in what many
  1097. 39:54have called an age of populism so for
  1098. 39:57shorthand i'm going to call these three
  1099. 39:58ideas de-professionalization
  1100. 40:02globalism
  1101. 40:03and populism and what will immediately
  1102. 40:05occur to you is that of course those are
  1103. 40:07three words that describe minge
  1104. 40:09right
  1105. 40:10so
  1106. 40:11you know
  1107. 40:12uh de-professionalization check the
  1108. 40:14anonymous craftsman right maybe a
  1109. 40:16tradesperson but certainly not a modern
  1110. 40:18professional in the sense that we use
  1111. 40:20that term probably somebody who's a
  1112. 40:21farmer
  1113. 40:23time and a potter part time
  1114. 40:25just like the people that drive an uber
  1115. 40:27part-time and then work at a mcdonald's
  1116. 40:29part-time right
  1117. 40:31globalism absolutely that was part of
  1118. 40:33yanagi's idea from the beginning and
  1119. 40:34again as i said it's very fully
  1120. 40:37expressed here at the minge today and
  1121. 40:39then populism
  1122. 40:40so a highly charged word in our
  1123. 40:42political moment but a word that yanagi
  1124. 40:45or leach would have absolutely
  1125. 40:47recognized and embraced the idea of the
  1126. 40:49vernacular of the common people it's in
  1127. 40:50the very word minge right so how do we
  1128. 40:53think through these three issues well
  1129. 40:55i'll take them one in
  1130. 40:57time in turn um so first the gig economy
  1131. 41:00which as you can see is everywhere now
  1132. 41:03what is the gig economy actually like
  1133. 41:06well often we're led to think that at
  1134. 41:08its worst it's exploitative
  1135. 41:11and
  1136. 41:12um that it
  1137. 41:13dehumanizes
  1138. 41:15people that is also part and parcel of
  1139. 41:17de-skilling right and that it's
  1140. 41:20capitalism
  1141. 41:21wreaking havoc with people's lives and
  1142. 41:23that certainly can be true and i don't
  1143. 41:25want to under
  1144. 41:26undercut that idea that the geek economy
  1145. 41:29does have severe consequences for some
  1146. 41:31people who are caught within it
  1147. 41:32particularly those who are already
  1148. 41:34poor or lack skills
  1149. 41:36but
  1150. 41:38the gig economy is also awesome if you
  1151. 41:40do have skills let me tell you because
  1152. 41:43what it allows you to do is work outside
  1153. 41:45of the context of rigid institutional
  1154. 41:47boundaries and think about what
  1155. 41:51a skilled craftsperson can do
  1156. 41:53when they have instagram on their side
  1157. 41:56they don't need a gallery they don't
  1158. 41:57need a shop they can sell and do so
  1159. 42:00directly to a huge global audience
  1160. 42:02potentially
  1161. 42:03the gig economy also is actually finding
  1162. 42:06physical expression in many many places
  1163. 42:09across the country i'm just using
  1164. 42:11because i had nice images really i'm
  1165. 42:12using the example of the box center in
  1166. 42:14philadelphia which is one of these
  1167. 42:16places that has lots and lots of studios
  1168. 42:18you can rent
  1169. 42:19time on equipment and there's also
  1170. 42:22mentorship programs attached to these
  1171. 42:24places often so the idea of the gig
  1172. 42:26economy in the sense of being transient
  1173. 42:28or impermanent transitional the idea of
  1174. 42:31in fact being a maker in constant
  1175. 42:32transition this is perfect for somebody
  1176. 42:35who has skills wants to find an audience
  1177. 42:38maybe become more skilled maybe doesn't
  1178. 42:40have enough money to actually open their
  1179. 42:42own shop but does have enough
  1180. 42:44wherewithal to be able to practice their
  1181. 42:46craft and in fact the i would argue that
  1182. 42:49the people who are thriving most in the
  1183. 42:51gig economy today precisely are crafts
  1184. 42:53people and that although yes we're
  1185. 42:55seeing traditional barrel making go by
  1186. 42:57the side in many other respects we're
  1187. 42:59also seeing a renaissance of craft
  1188. 43:02not
  1189. 43:03in spite of the internet
  1190. 43:05but actually because of it
  1191. 43:07not in spite of the gig economy but
  1192. 43:08actually because of it and a really good
  1193. 43:11example of this of course would be etsy
  1194. 43:13right which when it first came out
  1195. 43:15everyone thought oh this is going to be
  1196. 43:18an absolute gold mine for individual
  1197. 43:20makers and then there was a kind of
  1198. 43:22critical um
  1199. 43:24sort of uh critical response to that
  1200. 43:27idea uh a sort of sort of you know lash
  1201. 43:29back against this idea and in fact the
  1202. 43:31feeling was that etsy was not actually
  1203. 43:33all it was cracked up to be and now
  1204. 43:35quietly over the last few years it
  1205. 43:37actually has become a really important
  1206. 43:39platform for people to sell in all sorts
  1207. 43:41of different uh walks of life i'm not
  1208. 43:43saying it's perfect and i'm not saying
  1209. 43:44that you know
  1210. 43:46that etsy and the ming should just join
  1211. 43:48hands and sing kumbaya because there's a
  1212. 43:50little bit of difference between the two
  1213. 43:51uh the two missions but in fact these
  1214. 43:54kinds of online platforms are making
  1215. 43:55craft businesses much much more feasible
  1216. 43:58and much more robust than they have been
  1217. 44:01at any point up till now in american
  1218. 44:03history probably certainly since the
  1219. 44:0518th century uh when indus industry
  1220. 44:07began to disrupt
  1221. 44:09traditional economies and i would
  1222. 44:11suggest to you that in many ways
  1223. 44:14the folk art makers who are so
  1224. 44:17beautifully represented in ted cohen
  1225. 44:18show the saint of ted cohen upstairs
  1226. 44:22they are in fact the ancestors of
  1227. 44:24today's gig economy
  1228. 44:27makers
  1229. 44:28de-professionalized
  1230. 44:30adaptive flexible
  1231. 44:32making art with one hand
  1232. 44:35while on the other hand they raise a
  1233. 44:37family
  1234. 44:38or
  1235. 44:39do some other
  1236. 44:40work
  1237. 44:41to keep their family fed this is what
  1238. 44:43folk artists have done we call them folk
  1239. 44:45artists but actually we probably just
  1240. 44:47should say the artists in the world
  1241. 44:49because they've been the vast majority
  1242. 44:50of them let's face it
  1243. 44:52well over 99 of artists who have ever
  1244. 44:54lived are so-called folk artists and
  1245. 44:56hardly any of them have been
  1246. 44:57professional artists
  1247. 44:59right so there's a direct continuity
  1248. 45:02between what we're seeing now as at
  1249. 45:04least the potential in the craft world
  1250. 45:06and the masterpieces that we see
  1251. 45:07upstairs what about globalism
  1252. 45:10well globalism again is something we
  1253. 45:12spend a lot of time worrying about it's
  1254. 45:13out there with you know robots as a
  1255. 45:16problem that we're dealing with in our
  1256. 45:18political economy um the idea of you
  1257. 45:20know wage flight so that you know people
  1258. 45:23here in america lose jobs because we
  1259. 45:24can't compete with what the lower wage
  1260. 45:27zones in bangladesh or india or latin
  1261. 45:29america or africa elsewhere so that's
  1262. 45:32again all true and we have to take
  1263. 45:33globalism very seriously not just as a
  1264. 45:36general threat and a general problem but
  1265. 45:37also specifically a problem for craft
  1266. 45:40but again boy is globalism expressing
  1267. 45:43itself powerfully within the craft
  1268. 45:44sector so any
  1269. 45:46really really accomplished craftsperson
  1270. 45:48that you meet today particularly younger
  1271. 45:50ones like joseph walsh who's in ireland
  1272. 45:53works with a team of craftspeople from
  1273. 45:55all over the world so if you go to
  1274. 45:57joseph walsh's studio and let me tell
  1275. 46:00you the studio is in the quietest corner
  1276. 46:02of county court you can possibly imagine
  1277. 46:04is literally about dirt track
  1278. 46:07right far flung from any center and you
  1279. 46:09walk into the studio and people are
  1280. 46:11speaking japanese and french and italian
  1281. 46:14because that's where the best crafts
  1282. 46:16people come from and to make something
  1283. 46:18like that he needs the best crafts
  1284. 46:19people around or similarly uh chris
  1285. 46:22shank no sorry
  1286. 46:26chris shank um who works in detroit
  1287. 46:29actually in a neighborhood in detroit
  1288. 46:30that's informally called bangla town
  1289. 46:32because of its high uh you know uh
  1290. 46:35demographic of bangladeshi
  1291. 46:37uh immigrants in that community um he
  1292. 46:39employs people from art schools he
  1293. 46:42employs people from the auto industry
  1294. 46:44like upholsterers and finnish artists
  1295. 46:46and he employs women from the
  1296. 46:48bangladeshi community interestingly only
  1297. 46:50women so he found when he hired men and
  1298. 46:51women it didn't work but we hired only
  1299. 46:54women
  1300. 46:55it was a perfect atmosphere in the shop
  1301. 46:58and also obviously they looked fantastic
  1302. 47:00and in many ways kind of um you know
  1303. 47:03inspired him in his work the kind of uh
  1304. 47:06finishes that he
  1305. 47:07puts on these extraordinary pieces by
  1306. 47:10the way the the technique is is really
  1307. 47:12fascinating what he does is to build the
  1308. 47:14furniture out of junk essentially foam
  1309. 47:17scrap wood whatever else he can find and
  1310. 47:19then he covers it with foil like the
  1311. 47:22kind that you would wrap a candy in or a
  1312. 47:23chocolate like you know a chocolate
  1313. 47:25cherry that red foil for example and so
  1314. 47:27he gets big sheets of that actually from
  1315. 47:29the confectionary industry
  1316. 47:31and
  1317. 47:32the women that work for him are the
  1318. 47:34specialists
  1319. 47:35who do the foiling he says he's not good
  1320. 47:37enough at it they're much better at him
  1321. 47:39than him so he always lets them do it
  1322. 47:41and they completely sheath the object in
  1323. 47:44this bright metallic foil then the
  1324. 47:45entire thing is covered in resin and it
  1325. 47:47looks like it's made of precious stone
  1326. 47:49it's absolutely amazing and it's
  1327. 47:51entirely made with completely cheap
  1328. 47:52material with sheer
  1329. 47:54elbow grease and the inspiration of this
  1330. 47:56group this you know group of extremely
  1331. 47:59diverse workers you know 20 25 people
  1332. 48:01working in the studio at a time and if
  1333. 48:03that's not globalism in action what is
  1334. 48:06right so people from all over the world
  1335. 48:08gather together working in
  1336. 48:11with one you know in one spirit so again
  1337. 48:14here's the minge khan in tokyo that i
  1338. 48:17mentioned before
  1339. 48:18here's shoji hamada's uh house in
  1340. 48:21machiko
  1341. 48:23and these are the equivalent
  1342. 48:25organizations in japan to the minge here
  1343. 48:28and they're global
  1344. 48:31collections of objects and in my mind
  1345. 48:33they absolutely anticipate and model
  1346. 48:36what
  1347. 48:36a humane benevolent version of globalism
  1348. 48:40looks like and so the argument that i
  1349. 48:42would make here is that we cannot and
  1350. 48:44should not
  1351. 48:45wish away globalism
  1352. 48:47or put up barriers between ourselves and
  1353. 48:50other people around the world what we
  1354. 48:52should do is find ways to creatively
  1355. 48:54and positively work together with people
  1356. 48:56of different backgrounds and it turns
  1357. 48:58out that actually craft is the perfect
  1358. 49:00bridge
  1359. 49:01between people of different perspectives
  1360. 49:03again people that might not even speak
  1361. 49:04the same language literally and can't
  1362. 49:06communicate with words but can
  1363. 49:08communicate through making
  1364. 49:10and that leads me to my last
  1365. 49:13example
  1366. 49:14which is the vexing question of populism
  1367. 49:17which you know we might think of as a
  1368. 49:18recent phenomenon in american uh
  1369. 49:21politics you might look at something
  1370. 49:22like brexit or some of the politics that
  1371. 49:24are happening in europe as an obvious
  1372. 49:26example but hardly uh you know unique to
  1373. 49:28europe and america you see it in asia
  1374. 49:31you see it in latin america you see it
  1375. 49:32in in africa this um groundswell
  1376. 49:35of kind of grassroots anti-authoritarian
  1377. 49:38sentiment so that's one version of
  1378. 49:40populism but of course there is another
  1379. 49:42version of populism and it's absolutely
  1380. 49:44essential to living breathing cultures
  1381. 49:47it's a big part of what i talked about
  1382. 49:49in the book that rob kindly mentioned
  1383. 49:51and joyce kindly mentioned and their
  1384. 49:52introductions craft in american history
  1385. 49:55which i think is available from the
  1386. 49:56bookshop upstairs
  1387. 49:58so you know the idea of craft as wedded
  1388. 50:01to populism is as old as the country
  1389. 50:03itself in fact when thomas jefferson
  1390. 50:06fought with alexander hamilton who you
  1391. 50:08all know about now because of the
  1392. 50:09broadway musical
  1393. 50:11when jefferson and hamilton argued about
  1394. 50:13what american politics and economy
  1395. 50:15should be like jefferson was
  1396. 50:17called the populist and he was the pro
  1397. 50:19craft guy and alexander hamilton was
  1398. 50:22thought of as an elitist and he was the
  1399. 50:25industry guy so we've had this debate
  1400. 50:27for a long long time and we've always
  1401. 50:28had it and craft is
  1402. 50:30not the sole answer to the dilemma it's
  1403. 50:33one side of our national culture and
  1404. 50:37it's always been associated with um the
  1405. 50:40you know the general population and a
  1406. 50:42kind of anti-elitism but also a form of
  1407. 50:45progressivism and activism so it also uh
  1408. 50:48appears at a different moment than our
  1409. 50:50history very bound up with the civil
  1410. 50:52rights movement so uh one of the objects
  1411. 50:54that i used on the cover of my book
  1412. 50:56which you see there on the right is from
  1413. 50:58another kind of sibling museum the
  1414. 50:59africa the american folk art museum
  1415. 51:02in new york and it's a quilt by jessie
  1416. 51:04telfair it was made in 1983 but it looks
  1417. 51:06back to her time in the civil rights
  1418. 51:08movement and you can see here her
  1419. 51:11reiterating this word freedom freedom
  1420. 51:13freedom as if she were quilting the
  1421. 51:15sound of a march the march on selma in
  1422. 51:17textile form if you like
  1423. 51:20so a very obvious example there of civil
  1424. 51:22rights um in craft action but does
  1425. 51:25anyone recognize the person on the left
  1426. 51:28very good rob rosa parks and
  1427. 51:31does anyone know what rosa parks was
  1428. 51:33doing before she got arrested on the bus
  1429. 51:36for refusing to sit in the back
  1430. 51:38and if you've read my book you're not
  1431. 51:39allowed to answer
  1432. 51:42she had just been sewing
  1433. 51:44because her day job and the reason she
  1434. 51:46was tired you remember she said i'm
  1435. 51:47tired i don't want to move my seat the
  1436. 51:49reason she was tired was because she had
  1437. 51:50been sewing all day as a seamstress
  1438. 51:52seamstress in a department store and
  1439. 51:54while i don't know for sure i would lay
  1440. 51:56you bought my bottom dollar that that
  1441. 51:58garment that she's wearing is her own
  1442. 52:00design and make
  1443. 52:02and if you look at it for a second
  1444. 52:03you'll realize it looks handmade or
  1445. 52:04homemade and that's probably because she
  1446. 52:06made it
  1447. 52:07um
  1448. 52:08there's all sorts of fascinating stories
  1449. 52:10here about the intersections of the
  1450. 52:11craft movement especially the
  1451. 52:13appalachian craft movement and the civil
  1452. 52:14rights movement but it just shows you
  1453. 52:17that when we think about populism what
  1454. 52:19if we think about populism as being
  1455. 52:21expressed by martin luther king or rosa
  1456. 52:23parks that's a kind of populism too of
  1457. 52:25course and they
  1458. 52:27saw craft as one of their great allies
  1459. 52:30that kind of self-sufficiency that
  1460. 52:32personal strength that one derives from
  1461. 52:34craft was absolutely intrinsic to their
  1462. 52:37strategy you could say
  1463. 52:39and that comes right down to the present
  1464. 52:40day through vocational education and
  1465. 52:43many other forms of empowerment through
  1466. 52:45craft
  1467. 52:46so
  1468. 52:47um the the idea here then would be that
  1469. 52:50in all of these cases the idea of
  1470. 52:53de-professionalization or the gig
  1471. 52:54economy the idea of globalism and also
  1472. 52:57the idea
  1473. 52:59of populism
  1474. 53:00you do have real and present dangers
  1475. 53:02that are embodied by those ideas and
  1476. 53:04they can seem even uncontrollable or
  1477. 53:06hard to understand they can seem
  1478. 53:08frightening simply in their scale and
  1479. 53:09complexity
  1480. 53:11but it turns out that craft and not just
  1481. 53:14any old craft but craft in the ming
  1482. 53:16sense craft in the sense of the beauty
  1483. 53:18and skill and
  1484. 53:20capabilities of the everyday people in
  1485. 53:22our lives all around us we ourselves
  1486. 53:25those turn out to offer
  1487. 53:27hope in the sense that they are the
  1488. 53:29brighter more positive more empowering
  1489. 53:32and i would say more future facing
  1490. 53:35versions of those ideas and if there's
  1491. 53:37anything that this building
  1492. 53:39represents and really incarnates
  1493. 53:41beautifully this incredible building
  1494. 53:43that jen moose and her team have
  1495. 53:45designed
  1496. 53:46it is that craft is a future facing
  1497. 53:49phenomenon yes it's traditional yes
  1498. 53:52there are lots of old objects in the
  1499. 53:53collection and we need to know those
  1500. 53:55histories
  1501. 53:56but also
  1502. 53:58a building that's all about craft and
  1503. 53:59all about folk culture all about minge
  1504. 54:02the insight and aesthetic realization of
  1505. 54:05the everyday people
  1506. 54:07is the most powerful
  1507. 54:09tool that we have arguably for meeting
  1508. 54:12these challenges head on and i think
  1509. 54:14about that when i'm in the library
  1510. 54:16you know i imagine well for starters i
  1511. 54:18never really wanted to leave the library
  1512. 54:19at all once i had entered it it's like
  1513. 54:21seriously my happy place up there but
  1514. 54:23you can imagine reading a book about
  1515. 54:25george nakashima while sitting at one of
  1516. 54:27those nakajima tables having your choice
  1517. 54:29of which nakashima table to sit at is
  1518. 54:31absolutely amazing um when you gaze
  1519. 54:34through these beautiful textiles that
  1520. 54:36christina kim has made there's one just
  1521. 54:38outside the door here which
  1522. 54:40not only are um you know aesthetically
  1523. 54:43unified and um of course you know
  1524. 54:45gorgeous on their own terms but also
  1525. 54:47speak to the multiplicity and the kind
  1526. 54:49of multivalent
  1527. 54:51you know polyphonic quality of craft the
  1528. 54:54way that many different perspectives and
  1529. 54:56many different backgrounds and
  1530. 54:58techniques and materials can be bound up
  1531. 54:59into one
  1532. 55:01wonderfully unified experience
  1533. 55:03even
  1534. 55:04the presentation of the dale chihuly in
  1535. 55:06this extraordinary torquing spiral
  1536. 55:09staircase one of the most amazing spaces
  1537. 55:11in america now architecturally you know
  1538. 55:13here we have
  1539. 55:15in a in a funny way the most well-known
  1540. 55:18craftsperson living dale chihuly brand
  1541. 55:21name everybody knows who he is
  1542. 55:23surrounded by
  1543. 55:26the most beautifully executed anonymous
  1544. 55:28craft
  1545. 55:29all that plaster being done for months
  1546. 55:31in this traditional italian technique
  1547. 55:34and what could be more beautiful than
  1548. 55:35seeing those two different versions of
  1549. 55:37craft side by side literally
  1550. 55:38illuminating one another so that's an
  1551. 55:40absolutely breathtaking demonstration of
  1552. 55:43how craft can be all of these things at
  1553. 55:45once and let's not forget by the way
  1554. 55:47that dale chihuly
  1555. 55:48does hasn't blown glass since 1982
  1556. 55:51right so he's also working with a huge
  1557. 55:53team of incredibly skilled people who
  1558. 55:55again are the unknown craftspeople
  1559. 55:58of our own time and of course he's very
  1560. 56:00good at acknowledging them minge is but
  1561. 56:02let's not forget that in that sense
  1562. 56:04craft isn't this simplistic authorial
  1563. 56:08thing it's not like making a painting in
  1564. 56:09your studio and signing it in the lower
  1565. 56:11right hand corner it is something
  1566. 56:13collaborative often something collective
  1567. 56:15and that emanates from the spirit of a
  1568. 56:17group
  1569. 56:18um and then finally and most importantly
  1570. 56:20and i think most beautifully realized of
  1571. 56:21all here at the mingue you have the
  1572. 56:23relationship between the museum and its
  1573. 56:25public i have heard uh rob say and i'm
  1574. 56:27sure you've all heard say ahead and say
  1575. 56:29that the ming game museum is now the
  1576. 56:31living room of balboa park
  1577. 56:34and you know here's the space that we're
  1578. 56:35sitting in
  1579. 56:36opened out to the rest of the world
  1580. 56:39and the sense of
  1581. 56:40invitation that you get almost no matter
  1582. 56:43what direction you walk into this
  1583. 56:45building but i think particularly from
  1584. 56:47this vantage point and then obviously
  1585. 56:48walking to the front door
  1586. 56:50and seeing that incredible space spill
  1587. 56:52out in front of you the shop on the
  1588. 56:55right the cafe on the left these cases
  1589. 56:57that you can just go up and look at
  1590. 56:58without paying a single sentence and
  1591. 57:01looking at objects from the collection
  1592. 57:03and then the sense that you'll simply be
  1593. 57:05swept upstairs on this tide of creative
  1594. 57:07inspiration
  1595. 57:09how amazing is that as an architectural
  1596. 57:12expression of what craft has always been
  1597. 57:14and can be in the future how absolutely
  1598. 57:16intrinsic and essential it is and how
  1599. 57:19important it is that we have
  1600. 57:20institutions like this to take care of
  1601. 57:22it
  1602. 57:23so i will close by asking you to thank
  1603. 57:26our wonderful hosts
  1604. 57:28uh joyce joe and
  1605. 57:31of course rob jessica
  1606. 57:34jen who i think is here in the room uh
  1607. 57:36who jen there she is
  1608. 57:38and um of course all the people that i
  1609. 57:40can't name
  1610. 57:41uh the uh at the moment unknown kraft
  1611. 57:44people who brought the minge uh
  1612. 57:46international museum into this glorious
  1613. 57:47new um condition
  1614. 57:50you know i've been working in museums
  1615. 57:51for my entire career and i don't think
  1616. 57:53i've ever in fact i know that i've never
  1617. 57:55seen a museum delivered to this standard
  1618. 57:58with this degree of humanity and people
  1619. 58:01all
  1620. 58:02pulling together and making the
  1621. 58:03seemingly impossible happen and it's
  1622. 58:05absolutely breathtaking i feel so
  1623. 58:07honored to have been part of this moment
  1624. 58:08so thank you very much
  1625. 58:22you

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