Kevin Sorbo and Ricky Schroder Are Building a Conservative Competitor to Hollywood — Transcript
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- 0:00[Music]
- 0:15hey it's Andrew Clen with this week's
- 0:16interview with both Kevin Sorbo and Rick
- 0:19schroer sometimes called Ricky Schroeder
- 0:21two terrific actors who are doing
- 0:23excellent work fighting back against the
- 0:27incredibly decayed uh culture of
- 0:29Hollywood I got a phone call about a
- 0:31week ago from a friend of mine a
- 0:33successful uh Hollywood worker I don't
- 0:35want to identify him too much but he is
- 0:37a guy in the movie business who does
- 0:38very well and he told me an interesting
- 0:40story he said you know when you talk in
- 0:42public when people talk in public about
- 0:43the films that came out this year they
- 0:45all talk about Barbie and Oppenheimer
- 0:47but behind closed doors the only movie
- 0:50they talk about is sound of Freedom the
- 0:52Jim cavel Thriller with a real Christian
- 0:55bent and he said they all just want to
- 0:58know how do they reach that audience how
- 1:00do they uh do do the kinds of things
- 1:02that that film did because that film
- 1:03made over hundred million dollars and
- 1:05circumvented the Hollywood distribution
- 1:07monopo with the help of Angel Studios
- 1:10this is as you will know if you've been
- 1:12listening to my show this is an amazing
- 1:14moment Hollywood is hurting the woke
- 1:18storytelling the leftist propaganda is
- 1:21only really word for it and The
- 1:23Blacklist against anybody who disagrees
- 1:25with wokeness or leftism uh has really
- 1:28hurt their bottom line and has left an
- 1:30opening for storytellers who are willing
- 1:32to go off the grid and do stuff that's
- 1:35original and different and these are two
- 1:37actors that I wanted to talk to
- 1:38specifically because they're doing it
- 1:40you all know Kevin Sorbo I'm sure he was
- 1:42Hercules back in the day uh also was in
- 1:45the
- 1:46incredibly uh popular Christian film
- 1:49God's not dead and and by the way I
- 1:51think films like God's Not Dead have
- 1:52created the audience helped create the
- 1:54audience that has made films like um
- 1:57sound of Freedom possible and has made
- 1:58this created this Market maret basically
- 2:00and Rick rer of course won the Golden
- 2:02Globe Award he's the youngest recipient
- 2:04I think of the Golden Globe Award for
- 2:06the champ he was in one of my favorite
- 2:07TV shows NYPD Blue but he's also
- 2:10produced uh and actually directed films
- 2:13like black cloud the Anthology film
- 2:15locker 13 which I also enjoyed very much
- 2:17guys it is great to see you it's great
- 2:19to have you here thanks for coming on
- 2:20Pleasure good to be here so let let's
- 2:22just start by talking I'll start with
- 2:24you Kevin because you've been in in the
- 2:26sort of Christian uh film making field
- 2:31do have you suffered basically for for
- 2:33who you are for what you believe in
- 2:35Hollywood or I mean it looks like look
- 2:37you know God's Not Dead films like are
- 2:39so successful I don't want to talk about
- 2:41you suffering like you know like
- 2:43terrible suffering but really have you
- 2:44paid a price for that in Hollywood oh no
- 2:47no question no question Hollywood loves
- 2:49me
- 2:50um I think I think I'm the original
- 2:52cancell culture victim with when my
- 2:54agents of many many decades and my
- 2:56manager called me into their office says
- 2:58about 10 11 years years ago and said we
- 3:00can't work you any longer it was like an
- 3:02intervention of shorts and I had to
- 3:03laugh at it cuz I said you know you guys
- 3:05are the ones you're the industry that
- 3:06always screams for tolerance and freedom
- 3:08of speech but we all know it's they're
- 3:10Hypocrites it's all a one-way street
- 3:11with them so um I form Soros studios.com
- 3:14to do my own independent movies I love
- 3:15the industry just like Ricky does we
- 3:17love what we do we love the creation I
- 3:19love the creative process on both sides
- 3:21of the camera I actually started
- 3:22directing back in my Hercules here so
- 3:24that's always been a big part of my life
- 3:26so um my first really unapologetically
- 3:29fake f based movie is actually called
- 3:31what if and it's from the same writers
- 3:32that did God's Not Dead I've shot over
- 3:3480 movies what if in my book is a much
- 3:36better movie than God's not dead but it
- 3:38also shows you when independent movies
- 3:40as Rick knows we don't have a $100
- 3:42million advertising budget for a 300 for
- 3:44a $3 million movie so how do you get it
- 3:46out there you need strong word of mouth
- 3:47well God's Not Dead benefited from that
- 3:49what if written by the same guys Chuck
- 3:51and Cary they recently came out with
- 3:53nefarious they had unplanned a few years
- 3:55ago as well great writers it was
- 3:57directed by Dallas Jenkins who's now
- 3:59doing the chosen which is like massive
- 4:01around the world so I've been very
- 4:03blessed to kind of keep down that road
- 4:05and do movies that Hollywood used to do
- 4:07they don't have to be faith-based but
- 4:09Hollywood used to the movies that had
- 4:10hope had love had Redemption had
- 4:12laughter in them the good guy wins they
- 4:14don't do that anymore uh I think the 60s
- 4:17changed all that uh they started
- 4:18celebrating the the evil they started
- 4:20celebrating the anti-hero but it's just
- 4:22gotten worse each decade and it's just
- 4:24crazy I'm going to keep doing these
- 4:25movies and uh I didn't need Hollywood
- 4:27it's fine I they owe me nothing and I'm
- 4:29going to keep doing what I'm doing it's
- 4:31it is amazing it's it it goes beneath
- 4:33the radar because nobody covers it
- 4:35nefarious was a really good film I mean
- 4:37it was really creative and just takes
- 4:39place basically in one room with two
- 4:41characters and yet was was riveting it's
- 4:43terrific uh Rick you you actually are
- 4:47more openly conservative I mean you're
- 4:49both conservatives but you've kind of
- 4:51been you haven't been centered in a
- 4:53Christian film making you've been
- 4:54talking about uh your conservative ideas
- 4:57and you also during the co shutdowns
- 5:01were very outspoken and I remember
- 5:03people saying this was controversial is
- 5:05the word they always use when they
- 5:06disagree with you and I was thinking I
- 5:08don't say was controversial about being
- 5:10against these shutdowns but do you feel
- 5:12that you have had to move uphill move
- 5:15against the wind because of your
- 5:17opinions or or
- 5:19not yes absolutely um never quite fit in
- 5:23in Hollywood you know I I never really
- 5:25kind of felt like an actor there
- 5:27actually I felt always like an asset
- 5:29there
- 5:30um I never quite was invited to all the
- 5:33the clubs and the the cool parties and
- 5:36so um you know that's why I started real
- 5:38American Heroes I started this nonprofit
- 5:40because the diversity equity and
- 5:42inclusion guidelines at the Academy I
- 5:45became an academy member when I was I
- 5:47think eight years old and a few years
- 5:50ago they changed the guidelines so that
- 5:52you um you couldn't be eligible for the
- 5:55best picture category for the Oscar if
- 5:57you didn't have lgbtq Q Plus Characters
- 6:01themes of your story uh your crew had to
- 6:04be wait is that right is that right you
- 6:06cannot be eligible for the best best
- 6:09picture I did not know yeah and so they
- 6:12they totally you know art is free it's
- 6:14always supposed to be free um it's never
- 6:16supposed to be controlled you're
- 6:17supposed to be able to say what you want
- 6:19um hire who you want work with who you
- 6:21want um you don't have to hire um who
- 6:24they say you have to hire but that's
- 6:26what the Academy's done um these Dei
- 6:29requirement and it really offended me
- 6:31and I decided Hollywood had fallen at
- 6:33that point and uh I needed to still I
- 6:36still want to tell stories and still
- 6:37work and do stuff so I had a vision to
- 6:39create Patriot PBS is what we want to
- 6:42create we want to create an a PBS
- 6:45alternative where we become an
- 6:47aggregator for everybody else's stories
- 6:50and we start putting out proper
- 6:52programming because everybody's getting
- 6:54programmed out there by what they listen
- 6:56to what they watch what they hear and so
- 6:59we need to sort of Turn Around the
- 7:00programming and you know as Kevin
- 7:02mentioned earlier you know back in the
- 7:04old the old days black and white film
- 7:05era I love watching Black and Whites
- 7:07today the characters always did the
- 7:09right things they had morals they had
- 7:11standards they had values and then the
- 7:13anti-hero like Kevin mentioned came into
- 7:16existence and you started having all
- 7:18these very flawed characters um you know
- 7:21I was watching Titanic the other day
- 7:23with my girlfriend and you think about
- 7:26the characters involved you know they're
- 7:28not honorable people they're they're
- 7:30betraying each other they're lying
- 7:32behind each other's backs they're uh
- 7:34trying to seduce each other when one's
- 7:36engaged it's it's like
- 7:38this you know it's it's we celebrate
- 7:42that kind of you know moral decline you
- 7:45know Idols in the Bible I was reading
- 7:47the Bible today and Idols it says stay
- 7:49away from Idols we don't want Idols well
- 7:53you think about American Idol now the
- 7:55show and you think about Survivor the
- 7:57reality show that's that changed
- 8:00television the goal is to get the idol
- 8:03you know to win the idol to so you know
- 8:06they they use our words against us they
- 8:08go into the Bible and they try to
- 8:10confuse people but um so when you want
- 8:13to build the big thing people people
- 8:16don't know this if they're not in the
- 8:18business it's it's it's one thing to
- 8:20make a movie it's one thing to make a
- 8:21show the thing is to get it seen I mean
- 8:24that is an incredibly hard thing to do
- 8:26and the distribution paths the paths to
- 8:28distributed people are are blocked I
- 8:32mean they're very uh they're very much
- 8:34dominated by the left and by the
- 8:36Hollywood mainstream so I want to know
- 8:39I'll go back to you Kevin first but like
- 8:41when you say you're making these films
- 8:43how do you get them out there how do you
- 8:45get them from the place where you are in
- 8:47an editing room you know cutting up the
- 8:49picture until it works and then you've
- 8:52got a picture where do you go well
- 8:54there's a couple of distribution Outlets
- 8:55that I like to use they don't have the
- 8:57Creative Accounting that most of
- 8:58Hollywood does
- 9:00um where they'll cheat you out of
- 9:01anything I used to joke with my old
- 9:02manager I said you know I don't know why
- 9:04they call it a backend deal because now
- 9:06I figured out you basically take it in
- 9:07the back end I mean
- 9:10that's absolutely crazy and I I I
- 9:13remember one time I said you know
- 9:15Hercules was largely successful in fact
- 9:17by our third year we were the most
- 9:18watched show in the world in 176
- 9:20countries they did that show for seven
- 9:22years you can talk to any television
- 9:23producer if you're going into your third
- 9:25and fourth year in TV series you're
- 9:26making money there's a lot more money in
- 9:28TV than there is in movies and um I just
- 9:31said why do I have to sue for my back
- 9:33end why why didn't I just tell the truth
- 9:35he goes well it's just part of doing
- 9:36business in Hollywood I went what so
- 9:39they're it they're like they're all
- 9:40locked into this thing where it's okay
- 9:41to lie cheat and deceive each other um I
- 9:44remember going to some of these Premier
- 9:46movies with all these a-listers around I
- 9:47remember turning to my wife Sam I said I
- 9:50said do you feel the desperation in this
- 9:51room because you can feel it and I agree
- 9:53with I've never I never felt like a
- 9:55Hollywood guy that's why I lived in
- 9:57Thousand Oaks I want to be near but far
- 9:59enough away from it all you know and
- 10:01it's the the biggest thing with getting
- 10:02movies made number one is just get them
- 10:04funded I mean my movies are in the 3
- 10:06million range that sounds like a lot of
- 10:07money that's catering budget in Pirates
- 10:09of the Caribbean those are massive
- 10:11movies and then how do we get it out
- 10:13there because we don't have that big
- 10:14budget movie we got to do what we can we
- 10:16got to reach out to anybody and
- 10:18everybody there's 80 million homes in
- 10:20America that want the kind of product I
- 10:21do look I did a movie called let there
- 10:23be light that Sean Hannity funded did
- 10:25very well uh $2.3 million budget movie
- 10:29open number two per screen average
- 10:31against Thor Ragnarok a $300 million
- 10:33movie I get a call from Netflix on
- 10:35Monday after opening weekend I said hey
- 10:37you have a foot in this inspirational
- 10:39world we want to open an inspiration
- 10:40division here at Netflix I had three
- 10:43four meetings with him over the next
- 10:44like seven eight weeks ultimately they
- 10:47did nothing it was all just lip service
- 10:49their idiology is so filled with hate
- 10:51and anger towards someone like me and in
- 10:53in in I mean being a Christian and a
- 10:56conservative is like being a double
- 10:57leper in Hollywood but you know I just
- 10:59I'm doing what I can to get it out there
- 11:01I had two movies in theaters last year
- 11:02but you know they weren't out there very
- 11:04long because they didn't have a big
- 11:05following but uh we don't have the big
- 11:08advertising budget I mean but they're
- 11:09wonderful movies wonderful stories and
- 11:11it's it's it's unfortunate and now
- 11:13through my through Sorbo studios.com I
- 11:16get people going hey I just saw your
- 11:17movie um you know Left Behind rise of
- 11:20the Antichrist it's awesome you know I
- 11:21go well spread the word because we need
- 11:23word you know Rick I was thinking when
- 11:26you said you wanted to make a a
- 11:27patriotic PBS I mean that's the kind of
- 11:31thing like I might wake up at 3:00 in
- 11:33the morning and think that was a good
- 11:34idea but the next thought would be like
- 11:36how where do you even start how do you
- 11:38start to do that I mean PBS is obviously
- 11:40partly Government funding it's got all
- 11:42these channels how where do you
- 11:44begin well you know how eat an elephant
- 11:47right one spoonful at a
- 11:50time you just gota you just got to put
- 11:53one step in front of the other you got
- 11:55to create some content that's that's
- 11:57people want to see number one and so
- 12:00once you have some content they want to
- 12:02see you know there's it it'll find its
- 12:05way look look like you said um that one
- 12:08film just the one you mentioned earlier
- 12:11um sound the children um being
- 12:14trafficked look how they did it I mean
- 12:16they did it one step at a time they were
- 12:18able they shot that five years ago it
- 12:21took that long to get it going yeah so
- 12:24you can't you can't worry about what's
- 12:25down the road you just got to do what's
- 12:27in front of you and take it one bite at
- 12:28a time and so we're just starting right
- 12:30now producing a documentary series
- 12:32called erotic erosion that's going to
- 12:34look at the decline of the standards and
- 12:36values of our society since the rise of
- 12:39Internet pornography if you really think
- 12:41about it the camera before the camera
- 12:43was invented the only way you can engage
- 12:46in perversion was to engage it a see
- 12:49experience perversion was to engage in
- 12:52at yourself or to witness it once the
- 12:54camera was invented 150 years ago you
- 12:57could now distribute it and so we sort
- 13:00of are looking at sort of since the
- 13:02Genesis of the camera how perversion has
- 13:04been disseminated into everybody's homes
- 13:07and their minds through this you know
- 13:09device and so um erotic erosion is a
- 13:13documentary series looking at the
- 13:14decline of of our society after 45 years
- 13:18of internet porn are you aware that when
- 13:20internet porn first came out it was in
- 13:23the XXX URL and so it was easily to
- 13:26block at your house because you could
- 13:28put a URL blocker well then a lot of the
- 13:32church leaders of the day were offended
- 13:34that there was such thing as axxx URL so
- 13:37they had it shut down and all that
- 13:40pornography went to the.com world where
- 13:43you could no longer block it so we you
- 13:45know we have five goals at the Council
- 13:47on pornography reform which is one of
- 13:49our our missions and one of them is to
- 13:51put all adult content back into the tri
- 13:54XX
- 13:55URL and then another thing we want is we
- 13:57want an off switch
- 13:59Americans love choice right freedom of
- 14:01choice they say freedom of choice well
- 14:04we want the choice to have adult content
- 14:06turned off to our devices and to our
- 14:09homes um you know if you pay the bill to
- 14:12AT&T or Verizon there's absolutely no
- 14:14reason you have to have this push to
- 14:16your your your family and to your house
- 14:19um and so you know that's easily doable
- 14:22for them there's no such thing as
- 14:23Internet pornography in many countries
- 14:25around the world and so they can
- 14:27actually shut it down
- 14:29so with atic corrosion our documentary
- 14:31series we'll be talking to experts about
- 14:33the First Amendment for
- 14:34example and how the first amendment was
- 14:37uh written to protect freedom of speech
- 14:40against um political opposition you
- 14:42could say what you wanted against the
- 14:44government and not be afraid right
- 14:45that's why but then they changed uh
- 14:48freedom of speech they defined it as
- 14:50freedom of
- 14:51expression doesn't say that in the
- 14:53Constitution it says freedom of speech
- 14:56but freedom of expression then included
- 14:58pictures because that's a form of
- 15:00expression the Supreme Court ruled and
- 15:02now pornography was covered under the
- 15:05First Amendment so you know just because
- 15:08we've been duped by by this this world
- 15:11doesn't mean we have to stay duped by by
- 15:13this world's you know these politicians
- 15:16and so we have some goals at CPR Council
- 15:18on pornography reform that we're going
- 15:20to be focused on in the erotic erosion
- 15:22series to try to push uh these ideas
- 15:25because we want Americans to come
- 15:26together all of us as as far as on this
- 15:29issue um protecting our kids and doing
- 15:32age verification and you know Ai and if
- 15:35we get a win for We the People Andrew
- 15:38and we can get energy behind this kind
- 15:39of Reform and show that our government
- 15:41can work for our families then maybe
- 15:44this a government worth
- 15:45saving and and it's a government then
- 15:48that we can we can unite all those
- 15:50people in that energy and move into the
- 15:51next issue which is like balanced budget
- 15:54amendment we're all getting poorer in
- 15:56this country so you're fa focusing on
- 16:00issues and and do you think you have a a
- 16:02lane to
- 16:05distribute well yeah I mean we have our
- 16:07own platform to put it up it's it's we
- 16:09can distribute the the question is can
- 16:11you get it seen can you promote it sure
- 16:13yeah because we can get it out there but
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- 17:44in you know Kevin when you mentioned
- 17:47Netflix I I was thinking the other day I
- 17:50saw on Apple TV I saw a Mark Wahlberg
- 17:53comedy action film with Bridget Monahan
- 17:56and and it was It was kind of cute you
- 17:58know made me laugh and and it was had
- 18:00very good family values I know Wahlberg
- 18:02is a good you know strong Family Guy and
- 18:04and Christian guy and I and I've seen
- 18:06other things on Apple Tom Hanks uh
- 18:09submarine movie where he played this
- 18:12actual Bible reading praying uh you know
- 18:16leader commander of a submarine I was
- 18:18sitting there with my eyes my eyes were
- 18:19like saucers I I couldn't believe I was
- 18:21actually watching it but Apple TV seems
- 18:23to have opened up a little bit of a lane
- 18:25for that kind of content they they're
- 18:28also have a uh a film that looks a
- 18:30little bit like um Band of Brothers
- 18:33about the fly Boys in World War II which
- 18:35I'm that that to me is like heroin I'm
- 18:37like going to watch every minute of that
- 18:39probably twice so I I guess what I'm
- 18:42wondering is when they see a film like
- 18:44sound of Freedom make a100 millionar you
- 18:47know when when when Gibson made Passion
- 18:49of the Christ and he basically took
- 18:51money out of his pocket and and made you
- 18:54know so much money they did start all
- 18:56these faith-based little
- 18:59uh enclaves within the big studios but
- 19:02they seem to be unable to turn out
- 19:04things that people who actually had
- 19:06Faith wanted to watch so they would make
- 19:08a film about Moses and then come out and
- 19:09say Moses was a terrorist or they you
- 19:11know they make they'd make all these
- 19:13films that kind of insulted the people
- 19:14who were supposed to see them is there a
- 19:16lane or do we have to reinvent Hollywood
- 19:18do we have to make something completely
- 19:21different well Hollywood I think needs
- 19:23to wake up I don't know what it takes to
- 19:25wake up I mean look at Disney wal Disney
- 19:27said back in the 19 1950s that movies
- 19:29and television will influence our youth
- 19:31well hello um I think he's flipping his
- 19:33Brave right now what Disney has done to
- 19:35his name uh because he's not the type
- 19:37movies he wants to put out I I I'm sure
- 19:39it's more money than this I heard a$ 1.4
- 19:42billion doll loss for them last year so
- 19:43I'm many how many more years they want
- 19:45to keep doing that I don't know I mean I
- 19:47I heard they're going to redo It's a
- 19:49Wonderful Life and they want to have a
- 19:51diverse cast in that they're redoing
- 19:53what's the other one they're looking at
- 19:54I mean wizard of O wizard wizard of O
- 19:57that's right so I'm looking going are
- 19:58you kidding me you guys are doing this
- 20:00it's it's it's it it's it's just strange
- 20:03what they're doing and why they're doing
- 20:05it and I I don't know if they're going
- 20:06to wake up to the fact look look what
- 20:08they did to the movie Noah with Russell
- 20:09Crow I got invited to Paramount release
- 20:11of that they it was it was on the lot of
- 20:13Paramount and God's on dead had just
- 20:15come out and was doing amazingly well I
- 20:18mean that $2 million movie made $140
- 20:19million it's crazy and so we're sitting
- 20:22there watching this my wife looks over
- 20:24at me halfway through the screening this
- 20:25cuz number one they made Noah like a
- 20:27schizophrenic alcoholic hellbent and
- 20:29killing his family at the end of the
- 20:30journey and then my wife says this isn't
- 20:32the story of Noah it's Water World means
- 20:34Transformers is what it is and that's
- 20:36what they did with it and at the end of
- 20:38the movie the guy the only probably the
- 20:41only faith-based producer on the set
- 20:43came out and he said because people were
- 20:45going crazy in this movie what are you
- 20:46doing in this movie he said well number
- 20:48one they hired an
- 20:50atheist in the land that's run by quite
- 20:53a few of the people from that in they're
- 20:55Jewish why would they hire an atheist
- 20:57person to do an Old Testament you know
- 21:00story that's as popular as no it makes
- 21:02no sense to me and then somebody asked
- 21:04them not knowing I was there I was back
- 21:06in the middle like 40 rows back guy says
- 21:08well why doesn't Hollywood do more
- 21:10independent movies like God's Not Dead
- 21:11look at the success of that movie and he
- 21:13says well we'll leave the independent
- 21:15movies to the independent people out
- 21:17there we're going to keep doing the big
- 21:18Blockbusters so he didn't really answer
- 21:20the question but um I don't know when
- 21:22they're going to wake up I mean it's
- 21:23weird that you have to keep H them over
- 21:25the head with a successive sound of
- 21:26freedom and they helped that by the way
- 21:29when Hollywood came out and basically
- 21:30said wait a minute we're for child sex
- 21:35trafficking that just made more people
- 21:37don't want to see the movie on both
- 21:39sides of the political AIS because I
- 21:41most I think most people left or right
- 21:44is against having sex with 5-year-olds
- 21:46it's just that uh you know it it hurt
- 21:48them but it helped the movie quite a bit
- 21:50you know I went and saw a screening of
- 21:52it at the Museum of the Bible in
- 21:53Washington DC and I looked around and I
- 21:56thought why is everybody here Christian
- 21:59doesn't every isn't everybody against
- 22:00this but apparently not and certainly
- 22:02not in Hollywood uh where they famously
- 22:04are are uh you know are doing things
- 22:07like this I I guess I'm really
- 22:09interested in in systems to be honest
- 22:11with you like I I mean this this idea
- 22:13you know Rick you you talked about
- 22:16putting material up and I I think this
- 22:18porn subject is huge I think it's a an
- 22:20absolutely destructive force and as you
- 22:23say you know it's one thing if there was
- 22:25a magazine behind a counter where you
- 22:27have to go up and sh name yourself to
- 22:28buy a magazine but when all you have to
- 22:30do is press a button on your phone it's
- 22:31a it's a much much different force in
- 22:33our Andrew and Andrew I remember when I
- 22:36was a kid 7-Eleven got girly magazines
- 22:39and I was like maybe 10 years old and I
- 22:41couldn't believe they were behind you
- 22:44know they were behind the cast register
- 22:46and then a couple years later they moved
- 22:48to the aisle like now you can actually
- 22:51access them and then internet porn came
- 22:54out and uh I saw my first pornography
- 22:57image at
- 22:59wow wow and that was prior to the
- 23:01internet well did you have problem you
- 23:03know I don't want to I don't want to get
- 23:04too personal but I mean you were a child
- 23:06star and one of the famous things that
- 23:08they talk about child stars are always
- 23:10in danger did you feel that you were in
- 23:13danger yes really I didn't I mean I
- 23:15didn't I I knew I couldn't
- 23:18trust uh a lot of people around me yeah
- 23:21from a a young age you know so yeah I I
- 23:24I was around some pretty unsavory
- 23:26characters for sure yeah because because
- 23:29Hollywood really is a I mean it's funny
- 23:31I me there plenty of nice people in
- 23:33Hollywood and it's not a monolithic uh
- 23:35structure but this is one of the things
- 23:37about it that is absolutely you know you
- 23:40know I I I wrote a fantasy novel with
- 23:42that and at the core of it there was
- 23:44some child trafficking in Hollywood and
- 23:45I sent it to my agent it was very
- 23:47popular because I put it out as a
- 23:48podcast here at the daily wire and it
- 23:50did really well and I sent it to my
- 23:52agent and he said this is not what
- 23:54Hollywood is like I like yes it is I
- 23:56mean everybody knows everybody knows
- 23:58what it is but I want to know I want to
- 24:00know how you guys are thinking about the
- 24:03systems
- 24:05because it's like I said it's one thing
- 24:07to make content and if you're making
- 24:09documentary content you can fund that
- 24:10and if you have $3 million you can make
- 24:12a movie if you can raise that but but
- 24:14how do you get to that next stage where
- 24:17people can see it where people know it
- 24:18exists I mean like I I read about you
- 24:21guys and I'm I'm always following this
- 24:23because I think that this is the moment
- 24:25this is the moment when you can actually
- 24:27do something like this and and make it
- 24:29work because people are so sick of what
- 24:31they're saying
- 24:33so so are there people that you go to do
- 24:36I mean do you have people you know let
- 24:38me start with you Rick is there are
- 24:40there is there a network of people that
- 24:41you can go to that say we're going to
- 24:42help you we're going to fund this or do
- 24:45you just set out on down Hollywood
- 24:47Boulevard with a tin tin cop you know no
- 24:51I don't have a network right now it's
- 24:53all self-funded wow it's all
- 24:55self-created self-generated self
- 24:57distributed self I mean pretty much
- 25:00promoted yeah so no I don't have a and I
- 25:04and intentionally I don't need sort of a
- 25:07network right now I can do certain
- 25:09things on my own as I need other assets
- 25:12to come on board I will reach out but
- 25:15you know sometimes the people that you
- 25:17bring into your network can influence
- 25:19things uh I I don't have a lot of trust
- 25:22for a lot of folks and so it's better
- 25:24just sort of to do things myself when I
- 25:26can and then and then but I do need to
- 25:29learn to find Partners to work with yeah
- 25:32because you can't really make movies
- 25:33alone
- 25:34right no I mean you find crew for sure
- 25:37you hire people but I'm talking about
- 25:38you're talking about like distribution
- 25:40Partners yeah um I I I don't have them
- 25:43yet but I will search for them when I
- 25:46when I need to find them or I'll call
- 25:47Kevin say
- 25:49Kevin distribu Hey Kevin does stream
- 25:53does streaming change anything well I
- 25:55think it's it's here to stay obviously
- 25:57so another Avenue you talking about
- 25:59funders out there look I'm always
- 26:00looking for funders I I'm got a golf hat
- 26:04on I'm a big golfer I do a lot I get
- 26:05invited that whole celebrity thing I
- 26:07invited a lot of charity events and I
- 26:08golf with these very wealthy people then
- 26:11you find out they're like-minded like me
- 26:13they're like oh W the downfall of
- 26:14America the you know we're chrisan we're
- 26:16conservatives and then you sit there and
- 26:18talk to them about the movies I do and
- 26:20we're talking some of you guys are
- 26:22billionaires and I like I say three
- 26:24million bucks to rent a m they're making
- 26:26that much every day on a couple billion
- 26:28dollars out they're worth but they ah
- 26:30it's not something I do well we have a
- 26:31culture battle going on right now
- 26:33Hollywood is kicking our butt they
- 26:34really are they're controlling a lot of
- 26:36things I know there's a Tipping Point in
- 26:37there I know people that out there like
- 26:40you know what what Rick is doing what
- 26:41I'm doing what the Irwin Brothers are
- 26:43doing there people out there making good
- 26:44movies and good product and we just got
- 26:46to keep doing that and keep fighting
- 26:47that fight I get stopped all the time
- 26:49through airports hotel lobbies and
- 26:51people say hey keep making the movies
- 26:53you're making and I go well then keep
- 26:54supporting it any way you can yeah
- 26:56because we need that we need that help I
- 26:58don't have a I don't have a faucet I can
- 27:00turn on and make these movies I've got
- 27:01great scripts but it's hard to sit there
- 27:03and raise the money for them um I
- 27:06certain know people I can go to for
- 27:07distribution but I think for me the
- 27:09first important thing to me is just get
- 27:11money to make these scripts wow that
- 27:13that's that is really interesting I mean
- 27:15because I know look here at the daily
- 27:17wire this was our mission from the
- 27:19beginning but we had to build it up by
- 27:21doing political commentary because that
- 27:24you know unfortunately I think that
- 27:26that's a it's just a lot easier it's
- 27:27cheaper to do but it's also there's this
- 27:29audience kind of that eats it up but but
- 27:32it is it's just fascinating to me just
- 27:35if you take Fox News Fox News comes out
- 27:37and it takes over half the country
- 27:39basically it becomes this major major
- 27:41threat to this monolithic news industry
- 27:44and yet nobody imitates it it it takes
- 27:47it takes years decades before anybody
- 27:49says oh let's make an oan let's make a
- 27:50even a daily wi let's make all these
- 27:52different things where the audience was
- 27:54obviously there I sometimes wonder I
- 27:56mean is there a streaming service for
- 27:58Christian films there is and I wish
- 28:00there was an app for that as well to
- 28:02reach out to people because I mean you
- 28:04know I look I got a couple million
- 28:06people on Twitter alone can't I why
- 28:07can't I get a dollar from each one of
- 28:09them I don't know it' be great you know
- 28:11because right there well there's some
- 28:13money to get get two million bucks gets
- 28:15me into, 1500 screens on a you know on a
- 28:17weekend so um it's it's it's weird to
- 28:20try to fight it and get it out there but
- 28:22I'm going to keep battling because I
- 28:23love like I said I love what I do and
- 28:25I'm not going to give up the fight so
- 28:27they will come is kind of my attitude
- 28:29you got to build something worth and
- 28:31then they'll come yep that's I I've kind
- 28:34of lived by that too I mean I just make
- 28:36the stuff and I've I've been really
- 28:37fortunate finding audiences for it but
- 28:39it's it has gotten it has gotten Wicked
- 28:42out there I mean this stuff with the Dei
- 28:44and the equity and and the well it's
- 28:46racism let's call it what it is I mean
- 28:48yeah that that stuff is just really um
- 28:51it's it's ill it's a sickness obviously
- 28:54well listen I'm I'm really glad to talk
- 28:56to you it kind of gives me a hope hope
- 28:57to talk to you it's it's a it's a it's
- 28:59an interesting moment let me I've only
- 29:01got a couple of minutes let me ask each
- 29:02one of you is is this a good time or am
- 29:06I kidding myself I I see like a break in
- 29:09the culture I see the the kind of
- 29:10Rainbow Coalition on its back feet am I
- 29:13wrong about that Rick do you think that
- 29:15there's an opening here I do think
- 29:17there's an opening I do think we're
- 29:18making progress I do think we're talking
- 29:20about the Lord again and you know people
- 29:22aren't afraid to talk about the Lord and
- 29:25so I think that makes a difference I
- 29:27think we're sick of what we see so many
- 29:29Americans we're just tired of of it of
- 29:32it and them pushing their perversion
- 29:34upon us and into us so we we want to uh
- 29:38we want to make some change and we want
- 29:39to use our documentaries and our stories
- 29:41to help drive that change because
- 29:43politics is
- 29:44Downstream of of what we do yeah and
- 29:48they're just kind of they follow a lot
- 29:50and and you know Hollywood is sort of
- 29:52like the seems to me the the brain of of
- 29:56of of of their perversion it's like the
- 29:58center of of Satan's messaging tools
- 30:01yeah no question about it yeah so many
- 30:04ways Kevin you hopeful I I am you know I
- 30:07I every set I've been on you know I
- 30:09still I've been managing thank God
- 30:10through other independent people coming
- 30:12to me to say hey you want to be in my
- 30:13movie and I read the script and the roll
- 30:15or whatever I like the message yeah then
- 30:17I'm in so I've been shooting four movies
- 30:19a year on average the last seven eight
- 30:20years and every movie I do now I get at
- 30:23least one person sometimes more whether
- 30:25it's a camera guy another actor whatever
- 30:27pull me along you know over the side of
- 30:29the studio like we're doing a drug deal
- 30:30and say hey man thanks for being a voice
- 30:33for us and I'm go D be a voice for
- 30:34yourself and that's what we need we need
- 30:36people to stop being cheap we're here to
- 30:38wake up the Lions and I said look it
- 30:40hurt my career in Hollywood but then
- 30:41again didn't hurt my career I'm still
- 30:43making movies I'm not making the big
- 30:45bucks I made back in the day but I don't
- 30:46care I'm doing stuff that it's changing
- 30:48people's lives because I get through my
- 30:51through Sorbo Studios site I get people
- 30:53every day saying I became a Christian
- 30:54because your movies or you know I love
- 30:57what you're doing I'm going to support
- 30:58you blah blah blah and it's wonderful so
- 31:00I know there's a turning point here and
- 31:02we're it's it's a slow ship but it is
- 31:05turning in the right direction Kevin
- 31:06Sorbo Rick schroer both incredibly
- 31:09talented actors really nice to talk to
- 31:10you really interesting to hear it's it's
- 31:12in the trenches yeah one more plug one
- 31:15more plug I'm doing I used I I used to
- 31:18all these autograph shows comiccons
- 31:19because Hercules and Andromeda but I do
- 31:21I I I'm I'm doing the first Faith and
- 31:23family con I want to talk to Ricky about
- 31:25this I'll get your information later but
- 31:27go to riseup con.com outside of
- 31:29Knoxville the end of May last weekend in
- 31:31May riseup con.com you can see the
- 31:34people that already involved It's a
- 31:36Wonderful it's actors that you'll know
- 31:38and recognize like John Schneider and
- 31:40Dean K guys that have done movies that
- 31:42are Faith and family a movies so it's
- 31:44it's bring your kids bring your family
- 31:46it's not going to be the secular World
- 31:47in there it's going to be movies with
- 31:49good good good messages and Corbin
- 31:51burson's going to be there as well so
- 31:53rise UPC con.com check it out all right
- 31:55last thing I got Andrew and we got one
- 31:57more thing yeah um this Valentine's Day
- 32:00we're asking America to make a pledge to
- 32:01be porn free uh and you can go you can
- 32:04go to Council on porn reform.org and you
- 32:07can download the pledge and print it and
- 32:09you and your partner can sign it and we
- 32:12can try to start building bonds between
- 32:14couples again and women can get rid of
- 32:16their vibrators and guys can get rid of
- 32:18their porn and we can come
- 32:21together because that's what we need all
- 32:23right I'm for it thank you guys thanks
- 32:24so much for coming on I really
- 32:25appreciate it pleasure thank you thanks
- 32:28Ry good see you again you know that's
- 32:30Kevin Sorbo and Rick Schroeder uh you
- 32:32know this stuff is happening all over
- 32:34it's happening a lot people trying to
- 32:36break through obviously the daily wire a
- 32:39big big part of it and everything and
- 32:41and what I'm doing in my publishing life
- 32:43a big part of it all of these things are
- 32:45real they're happening and if uh you
- 32:47support them and if you enjoy them and
- 32:50like them they'll grow that's the way it
- 32:53works and uh if that will also be true
- 32:56if you come to the Andrew claven show on
- 32:58Friday I too will grow even more
- 33:00enormous than I am right at this moment
- 33:02so I'll see you
- 33:02[Music]
- 33:15there
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