Kellyanne Conway Meet The Press NBC News FULL HEATED Interview, Sean Spicer gave Alternative Facts — Transcript

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1. 0:00Kelly andne Conway uh Miss Conway
2. 0:02welcome to the White House North Lawn
3. 0:04which will become a familiar place for
4. 0:06you I think uh for the next few years
5. 0:08let me begin um with this question the
6. 0:10presidency is about choices so I'm
7. 0:12curious why president Trump chose
8. 0:15yesterday to send out his press
9. 0:16secretary to essentially litigate a
10. 0:20provable falsehood when it comes to a
11. 0:23small and Petty thing like inaugural
12. 0:26crowd size I guess my question to you is
13. 0:28why do that Chuck the president did many
14. 0:31things yesterday and the day before that
15. 0:33are very meaningful to America he signed
16. 0:35executive orders to stop Obamacare and
17. 0:38all of its problems uh many people have
18. 0:40lost their millions of people have lost
19. 0:42their insurance their doctors their
20. 0:43plans so that stops right now he's going
21. 0:46to replace it with something much more
22. 0:48free market and patient Centric in
23. 0:49nature and on this matter of crowd size
24. 0:52I mean for me I think the most
25. 0:53quantifiable points of interest for
26. 0:55Americans should be what just happened a
27. 0:58few months ago that brought him here the
28. 1:0031 of 50 states he won the 2600 counties
29. 1:03the 200 counties that went for President
30. 1:05Obama that now went to president Trump
31. 1:07and the fact that 2930 million women
32. 1:10voted for Donald Trump for president
33. 1:12they should be respected somebody should
34. 1:13cover their voices as well I I'm about
35. 1:16things that are quantifiable and
36. 1:17important I don't think that I don't
37. 1:19think ultimately presidents are judged
38. 1:21by crowd sizes at their inauguration I
39. 1:22think they're judged by their
40. 1:24accomplishments uh and and we know that
41. 1:26President Obama and his accomplishments
42. 1:28that there's a lot of Unfinished
43. 1:29Business there and on this matter of
44. 1:30crowd size I think it is I think it is a
45. 1:32symbol for the unfair and incomplete
46. 1:34treatment that this President often
47. 1:37receives I'm very heartened to see
48. 1:39neelen just came out with the ratings 31
49. 1:41million people watching the inauguration
50. 1:44President Obama had 20.5 million
51. 1:46watching his second inauguration for
52. 1:48short years ago so we know people are
53. 1:52Alo watching the inauguration on
54. 1:54different screens and in different modes
55. 1:58and that there was I mean for me there
56. 1:59was a prediction of a downpour of rain I
57. 2:01think that deterred many people from
58. 2:03coming but no question there were
59. 2:04hundreds of thousands of people out on
60. 2:06the
61. 2:07mall let me stop you here because you
62. 2:10make a very reasonable and rational uh
63. 2:13case for why crowd sizes don't matter
64. 2:16then explain you did not answer the
65. 2:18question why did the president send out
66. 2:21his press secretary who's not just the
67. 2:22spokesperson for Donald Trump he can be
68. 2:25the he also serves as the spokesperson
69. 2:27for all of America at times he speaks
70. 2:29for all of the country at times why put
71. 2:31him out there the for the very first
72. 2:33time in front of that Podium to utter a
73. 2:37provable falsehood it's a small thing
74. 2:39but the first time he confronts the
75. 2:43public it's a
76. 2:45falsehood Chuck I mean if we're going to
77. 2:47keep referring to our press secretary in
78. 2:50those types of terms I think that we're
79. 2:52going to have to rethink our
80. 2:53relationship here I want to have a great
81. 2:55open relationship with our press but
82. 2:57look what happened the day before
83. 2:58talking about falsehoods we allowed the
84. 3:01Press spray to come the press to come
85. 3:02into the Oval Office and witness
86. 3:04president Trump signing executive orders
87. 3:07and of course you know the senate had
88. 3:09just confirmed General Mattis and
89. 3:10general Kelly to their two posts and we
90. 3:12allow the press in and what happens
91. 3:14almost immediately a falsehood is told
92. 3:17about removing the bust of Martin Luther
93. 3:19King Jr from the office that no that's
94. 3:21just flat out false and the corrected
95. 3:25immediately why was it said why was it
96. 3:27said in the first place because
97. 3:29everybody is so
98. 3:30presumptively of it's okay no excuse me
99. 3:33oh no no no no that reporter was writing
100. 3:36to on behalf of the press pool that that
101. 3:40fall so it got spread 3,000 times it was
102. 3:44corrected ex excuse and you did not
103. 3:47answer the question I did answer
104. 3:49question no you did not you did not
105. 3:51answer the question of why the president
106. 3:53asked the White House Press Secretary to
107. 3:56come out in front of the podium for the
108. 4:00first time and utter a falsehood why did
109. 4:03he do that it undermines The credibility
110. 4:05of the entire White House Press office
111. 4:08on day don't be so don't be so overly
112. 4:10dramatic about it Chuck what you're
113. 4:12saying it's a falsehood and they're
114. 4:14giving Sean Spicer our press secretary
115. 4:16gave alternative facts to that but the
116. 4:19point Rems wa alternative facts
117. 4:22alternative facts four of the five facts
118. 4:24he uttered the one thing he got right
119. 4:26was Zeke Miller four of the five facts
120. 4:27he uttered were just not true look alter
121. 4:29if facts are not facts they're
122. 4:32falsehoods Chuck do you think it's a
123. 4:34fact or not that millions of people have
124. 4:36lost their their plans their health
125. 4:37insurance and their doctors under
126. 4:38President Obama do you think it's a fact
127. 4:40that everything we heard from these
128. 4:41women yesterday happened on the watch of
129. 4:43Barack Obama he was President for eight
130. 4:45years Donald Trump's been here for about
131. 4:46eight hours do you think it's a fact
132. 4:48that millions of women 16.1 million
133. 4:50women as I stand here before you today
134. 4:53are imp poverty along with their kids do
135. 4:55you think it's a fact that million don't
136. 4:56have Healthcare do you think it's a fact
137. 4:57that we spent billions of dollars on Ed
138. 4:59education in the last8 years only to
139. 5:02have millions of kids still stuck in
140. 5:03schools that fail them every single day
141. 5:05these are the facts that I want the
142. 5:07Press Corp to cover and these are that
143. 5:08this is why I'm here at the White House
144. 5:11change I understand like that is not
145. 5:13what yesterday was about so you have not
146. 5:16answered the qu you did not answer the
147. 5:17question what this presidency is going
148. 5:19to be about you sent the press secretary
149. 5:21out there to utter us falsehood on the
150. 5:23smallest pettiest thing I don't think
151. 5:26anybody can prove that I actually think
152. 5:29maybe this is me as a pollster Chuck and
153. 5:31you know data well I don't think you can
154. 5:34prove those numbers one way or the other
155. 5:35there's no way to really quantify crowds
156. 5:37we all know that you can laugh at me all
157. 5:39you want but I'm very glad
158. 5:42laugh well but you are and I think it's
159. 5:44actually symbolic of the way we're
160. 5:46treated by the press the way that you
161. 5:48just laughed at me is actually symbolic
162. 5:50of the way very representative the way
163. 5:51we're treated by the Press I'll just
164. 5:53ignore it I'm bigger than that I'm a
165. 5:54kind and gracious person but let me tell
166. 5:56you something else I'm really glad that
167. 5:58NBC News and and Chuck Todd all of a
168. 6:00sudden are so thrilled to cover crowd
169. 6:02control because we were mocked daily for
170. 6:05talking about the significance of our
171. 6:07historic rallies during the campaign
172. 6:10Donald Trump brought in historic crowds
173. 6:12to Michigan to Wisconsin to Pennsylvania
174. 6:14to Florida to North Carolina and on
175. 6:16great days we were ignored and on most
176. 6:19days we were mocked and those crowds did
177. 6:21matter because he built a movement the
178. 6:23people haven't seen But what I don't
179. 6:26understand is why he's litigating this
180. 6:28why stand in front of a memorial at the
181. 6:31CIA what El he CIA you don't want to
182. 6:35talk about the rest of this what he said
183. 6:36at the CIA first of all his very
184. 6:38Presence at the CIA sent a great message
185. 6:41to our men and women our brave men and
186. 6:43women in the intelligence Community he
187. 6:45went to the CIA yesterday he thought he
188. 6:46was going to witness the swearing IM of
189. 6:49his CIA director Mike Pompeo but you
190. 6:51know why that didn't happen Chuck
191. 6:52because the United State Senate won't
192. 6:54confirm Mike Pompeo as CIA director ask
193. 6:57Senator Schumer why that is going be a
194. 6:58question me ask him why ask him why
195. 7:02Donald Trump as president has nominated
196. 7:0421 of the 21 cabinet positions only to
197. 7:07have two grand total of two confirmed
198. 7:10while he takes office so the Democratic
199. 7:12Senate wants to hold up treasury
200. 7:14Commerce energy education the list goes
201. 7:17on we should have the respect and
202. 7:19deference of having a cabinet seated so
203. 7:21this peaceful transition of power occurs
204. 7:24properly but he went to the CIA because
205. 7:27lies have been told about his
206. 7:29relationship and his respect for the
207. 7:31intelligence community so he went right
208. 7:33there we had over a thousand requests to
209. 7:35attend we can only accommodate three or
210. 7:37you can ask you lience community can I
211. 7:40ask you to tell me what lies U about the
212. 7:42intelligence Community um were uttered
213. 7:44about uh uh president Trump's
214. 7:47relationship with the intelligence
215. 7:48community that he doesn't respect them
216. 7:50do you think what do you think what
217. 7:51outgoing CIA director said yesterday in
218. 7:53a statement using the vocabulary the
219. 7:56language he used about our new president
220. 7:57United States somehow quote improves our
221. 8:00relationship with the intelligence
222. 8:01Community it is irresponsible it is
223. 8:03reprehensible it is totally unne let ask
224. 8:06you this is this
225. 8:08responsible uh he called it was
226. 8:10disgraceful intelligence agencies
227. 8:12allowed any information so false and
228. 8:13fake out disgrace say that something
229. 8:15Nazi Germany would have done and did so
230. 8:18disgrace that was a uh on January 11th
231. 8:21was it right uh to compare the
232. 8:24intelligence Community with Nazi Germany
233. 8:26what's not right Chuck is that the day
234. 8:28before you had people releasing a
235. 8:31dossier full of junk and lies and fake
236. 8:34news and why do they release the dossier
237. 8:37because because people knew that Russian
238. 8:39hacking was fading from you as an
239. 8:41election had been totally dismissed as
240. 8:43having any credibility or Nexus towards
241. 8:45our election results Hillary Clinton
242. 8:47lost that election fairly and squarely
243. 8:49basically running on the same messages
244. 8:51we heard here yesterday in Washington DC
245. 8:52in elbur I heard like a repeat it was
246. 8:55this awful sequel as awful as the
247. 8:57original we just litigated all this in
248. 8:59the campaign and they came to Washington
249. 9:01and said the same thing Donald Trump
250. 9:03president Trump is very concerned about
251. 9:05the leaks that have occurred and a very
252. 9:07concerned that people would would really
253. 9:09denigrate the way the respect that he
254. 9:11has for men and women of the
255. 9:12intelligence commune why don't you go
256. 9:13back to his statement on Friday January
257. 9:166th after he had an intelligence
258. 9:17briefing that he and vice president
259. 9:19Pence won't talk about because it's top
260. 9:21secret and they won't leak about it
261. 9:23because you're not supposed to they're
262. 9:25protecting our intelligence and they're
263. 9:27protecting the security of people like
264. 9:28you and me our children Chuck by not by
265. 9:30not leaking but what he said that day on
266. 9:33January 6 put that statement up for your
267. 9:34viewers if you want to do us an honest
268. 9:36service he said in the beginning of the
269. 9:38statement I respect the service of our
270. 9:41great men and women in the intelligence
271. 9:42community and then the last part of the
272. 9:45statement was that he looks forward to
273. 9:47directing his own intelligence team
274. 9:49within 90 days of becoming the president
275. 9:51of the United States to give us a better
276. 9:53view of cyber security and to put better
277. 9:56better security measures in place it'd
278. 9:58be nice if he had a CIA director he
279. 10:00doesn't today because the Democrats are
280. 10:02holding up his CIA director I want to go
281. 10:04back um to a question that you continue
282. 10:06to reflect why was it necessary to send
283. 10:09out the press secretary on his first day
284. 10:10in office to utter approvable falsehood
285. 10:13that now calls into question everything
286. 10:15the press secretary state will say from
287. 10:18here on out it will for many Americans
288. 10:22no it doesn't you want them to hear that
289. 10:23you want them to hear that I'm not
290. 10:24answering your questions which I'm doing
291. 10:26you want them to hear that they can't
292. 10:28trust our press secretary I think that
293. 10:29is a very dangerous statement to what
294. 10:31was the motive to have this ridiculous
295. 10:34litigation of crowd size and now you're
296. 10:36casting it and your job is not to give
297. 10:38your opinion shock respectfully your job
298. 10:40is not to call things ridiculous that
299. 10:42are said by our press secretary and our
300. 10:43president that's not your job you're
301. 10:44supposed to be a news person you're not
302. 10:46an opinion col you please answer the
303. 10:48question why did he do this you have not
304. 10:50answered it answer this way I'll answer
305. 10:53it this way think about what you just
306. 10:55said to your viewers that's why we feel
307. 10:57compelled to go out and clear the
308. 10:59and put alter tactic it's a political
309. 11:02tactic to come up with alternative facts
310. 11:04and try to set up the press as your
311. 11:05enemy no I didn't say that at all and
312. 11:08that's not why I'm here in this building
313. 11:10I'm here because of all the provable
314. 11:12quantifiable facts because of the
315. 11:14devastation and destruction in our
316. 11:16schools with our health care in our
317. 11:19economy with our small business owners
318. 11:22and yes certainly uh with with terrorism
319. 11:26uh infrastructure this guy's going to do
320. 11:27so much in the first week he's going to
321. 11:28talk to prime minister Benjamin nahu
322. 11:31today about the Middle East about Iran
323. 11:33he's going to end the week receiving
324. 11:36prime minister Teresa may from the UK
325. 11:38here his first foreign leader to be
326. 11:40received here they're going to help
327. 11:41renegotiate us UK trade but you want to
328. 11:44talk about things IM media doesn't want
329. 11:45to cover you totally missed brexit and
330. 11:47Teresa may you totally missed Trump's
331. 11:49campaign you want to talk about provable
332. 11:51facts you've missed it all along America
333. 11:53doesn't really I mean look you've got a
334. 11:5614% approval rating in the media that
335. 11:58you've earned you you want to you want
336. 11:59to push back on us and yet you have a
337. 12:0214% is an answer to a simple question
338. 12:05you never an you never answered why or
339. 12:08the motivation of what was necessary
340. 12:10about doing that yesterday tell me why
341. 12:11you just referred to us as ridiculous
342. 12:13tell me why we were lied about the
343. 12:15debate is ridiculous and I did not say
344. 12:17anything about ml you're a deflect look
345. 12:20you're deflecting in order toid NBC
346. 12:23covered that false report NBC covered
347. 12:25that false report as to 3,000 other
348. 12:28articles that are still up online Chuck
349. 12:30you can't have a press coming into the
350. 12:32Oval Office on day one of the
351. 12:34administration we welcome them in to to
352. 12:36to be open and gracious and to have a
353. 12:39great relationship with the Press they
354. 12:40came in and the Press Pooler wrote a
355. 12:42false article about the removal of the
356. 12:44bust of Martin Luther King the Jr days
357. 12:47after days after president Trump met
358. 12:49with Martin Luther King III Martin
359. 12:51Luther King Jr's son in New York City
360. 12:54had a very constructive open
361. 12:55conversation where Martin Luther King
362. 12:57Jr's son said we have to unify and help
363. 13:00heal the country together and boom any
364. 13:02snarky attempt to try to undercut this
365. 13:05president in the Oval Office while he's
366. 13:07doing the business of the country you
367. 13:08just I mean we can't have this kind of
368. 13:10relationship I completely agree but I I
369. 13:13I'm sitting here trying to answer basic
370. 13:15questions and you're trying to attack me
371. 13:17with some I'm not attacking you Twitter
372. 13:20feed with some weird Twitter feed that
373. 13:22you guys are obsessed with look I'm
374. 13:23going to have to leave it there you have
375. 13:24another inter