Kate DELIVERS SHOCKING Ultimatum Over Harry At Windsor! Charles STUNS Britain With DEVASTATING Reply — Transcript
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- 0:00So, Prince Harry's people literally
- 0:02cannot get a key to any house inside
- 0:04Windsor Great Park. And the reason is a
- 0:07single sheet of cream paper sitting in
- 0:09the king's private office with one line
- 0:11of handwriting across the bottom. That
- 0:13line is the entire story. Catherine,
- 0:15Princess of Wales, put that sheet in
- 0:18front of the king. And according to
- 0:20people close to the household, she told
- 0:22him quietly, no aids in the room, that
- 0:24if Harry's side got a single key in
- 0:26Windsor, she would take George Charlotte
- 0:28and Louie out of Forest Lodge and she
- 0:31would not bring them back. 2 days after
- 0:33that, she came back to her office, a man
- 0:35who handles property matters for the
- 0:37Sussex side sat in his car at a gate on
- 0:40the edge of the park while a police
- 0:42officer ran a finger down a list, found
- 0:44nothing, and waved him round. The
- 0:46request he'd come to deliver got a
- 0:48written reply two days after that and
- 0:51the reply ran to one sentence. The
- 0:54king's answer to Katherine came back in
- 0:56nine words written across the bottom of
- 0:58her page by his private office. Those
- 1:00nine words are the reason the whole
- 1:02fight stopped. And before we go any
- 1:04further, if you're enjoying this
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- 1:08you don't miss the next breakdown
- 1:10[music] because this one has layers.
- 1:12Let's stay at that gate for a minute
- 1:14because I've pictured it more times than
- 1:15I'd like to admit. A gray Saturday in
- 1:18the middle of October, the kind of
- 1:19morning where the drizzle can't make up
- 1:21its mind. Two officers in the little hut
- 1:24by the barrier. A groundsman leading on
- 1:26a wheelbarrow on the verge. A woman with
- 1:29a spaniel who'd stepped back onto the
- 1:31grass to let the car through and then
- 1:32stayed there because the car didn't go
- 1:34through. The man behind the wheel had a
- 1:36leather folder on the passenger seat
- 1:38[music] and an appointment or what he
- 1:40believed was an appointment to walk
- 1:41around an empty house in the park with
- 1:43somebody from the estate office at
- 1:4510:00. The officer bent down to the
- 1:47window and asked for the name. He
- 1:49checked the clipboard. He checked it
- 1:50again slower, running his finger down
- 1:53the page the way you do when you already
- 1:54know the answer and you're being polite
- 1:56about it. Then he told the man there was
- 1:58no visit on the list for that morning.
- 2:00The man smiled. He kept smiling. He said
- 2:03there had to be some mixup and he
- 2:05reached across for the folder to show
- 2:07the email. The people who saw it say his
- 2:09hand was shaking hard enough that a page
- 2:12slid out and landed in the footwell. The
- 2:14officer waited while he fished it out.
- 2:15Then he stepped back and pointed at the
- 2:17turning circle and the car went round in
- 2:20one slow loop past the groundsman, past
- 2:22the woman with the spaniel, and back out
- 2:25onto the road it came in. On the Monday,
- 2:27the Sussex side had its answer in
- 2:29writing. one sentence. The properties
- 2:31you have asked about are not available.
- 2:34No meeting on offer and no name at the
- 2:36bottom that anybody could ring and argue
- 2:38with. And the reason it came out that
- 2:40short goes back to Catherine to a room
- 2:42at Windsor Castle she has never once
- 2:44mentioned in public and to a sheet of
- 2:46paper she wrote at her own kitchen
- 2:48table. To understand how we got here, we
- 2:51have to go back to the end of August to
- 2:53a little diary on the king's desk at a
- 2:55time when the king wanted the exact
- 2:57opposite of all this. The first piece of
- 2:59paper in this story is the most ordinary
- 3:02one. It's a page from the king's
- 3:04personal diary, the week to view kind
- 3:06his staff keep in pencils so it can
- 3:08change. [music] And according to people
- 3:09who saw it, somebody had written one
- 3:11line across an afternoon in early
- 3:13September. High grove th and the
- 3:16children if possible. That was all a
- 3:18question mark after it in pencil as if
- 3:20even the person writing it wasn't sure
- 3:22they were allowed to hope. You have to
- 3:24understand the man that line belongs to
- 3:26because for most of this year, he wasn't
- 3:29a king who shuts doors. Buckingham
- 3:31Palace announced in February 2024 that
- 3:34Charles had cancer and Harry flew over
- 3:36from California. Within a day, he saw
- 3:39his father for something like half an
- 3:41hour and flew home again. In May 2025,
- 3:44after he lost his last fight over police
- 3:46protection at the Court of Appeal, Harry
- 3:48sat down with the BBC and said he'd like
- 3:51reconciliation with his family and
- 3:53[music] that he didn't know how much
- 3:54longer his father had. Then on the 10th
- 3:56of September, 2025, the two of them had
- 3:59tea at Clarence House, the first time
- 4:01they'd been in the same room in 19
- 4:03months. The BBC carried it, the
- 4:05Associated Press carried it, everybody
- 4:06did. under an hour by the reports. And
- 4:09then Harry came back out through the
- 4:11gate and got into a car. It was small.
- 4:14It was something. By this summer, the
- 4:16king was 77. And the people around him
- 4:19say he'd started talking about time in a
- 4:21way he never used to. He told friends
- 4:23life was too short to keep a grudge
- 4:26going until somebody ends up at a
- 4:28funeral. He has two grandchildren he
- 4:30barely knows. Archie is seven now and
- 4:33Liet is five. And the king has held
- 4:35liabed by most accounts a handful of
- 4:37times in her whole life. You can think
- 4:39what you like about Charles, but I don't
- 4:41believe any grandfather sits with a
- 4:43number like that and feels nothing. And
- 4:44with the Sussex's by most accounts
- 4:46spending far more of their time on this
- 4:49side of the Atlantic since the summer
- 4:50with the children in a British
- 4:52classroom, the old excuse of distance
- 4:54had more or less gone. a garden at High
- 4:57Grove, a pot of tea, a grandfather, and
- 5:00two small children who might run across
- 5:02the lawn if they felt brave. That was
- 5:05the whole plan. No cameras and no
- 5:08statement. Then the second piece of
- 5:09paper arrived, and it's a very different
- 5:11animal came in through the formal
- 5:13channels from the Sussex side's lawyers,
- 5:16several pages long, and within about a
- 5:18day, the courters who handled it had
- 5:20given it a nickname. They called it the
- 5:22spreadsheet. I'll tread carefully here
- 5:24because nobody has published this thing
- 5:26and I'm going on how people describe it,
- 5:29but the picture they paint hangs
- 5:30together. It reached the king at Burke
- 5:33Hall on the Balmoral estate in the last
- 5:35week of August. And that's a hard week
- 5:36to send that man anything. The 31st of
- 5:39August is the night Diana died in Paris
- 5:42in 1997. The people who've worked for
- 5:44Charles say he goes quiet every year
- 5:47around that date, quieter than at any
- 5:49other point on the calendar. He walks a
- 5:51lot. He takes fewer calls and that is
- 5:53the week somebody chose to put this on
- 5:56his desk. According to the people who've
- 5:58described it, the document set out terms
- 6:00the Sussex side wanted settled before
- 6:03the children came anywhere near H
- 6:04Highrove. It opened with security. Harry
- 6:08wanted his father to step in and restore
- 6:10the full armed police protection he'd
- 6:13lost. And he'd lost it in the courts all
- 6:15the way up to the court of appeal. So,
- 6:17in plain terms, he was asking the king
- 6:19to go around the door the judges had
- 6:21already closed. Rave, the home office
- 6:23committee that decides who gets armed
- 6:25officers at the public's expense,
- 6:27downgraded him when he stepped back in
- 6:292020, and every judge since has backed
- 6:32that call. The document moved on to a
- 6:34house, a long lease on crown property.
- 6:37And the two places the sources keep
- 6:39naming are a country house in
- 6:41Oxfordshire and something inside Windsor
- 6:43Great Park. And by the last page, it had
- 6:46wandered back around to the old idea of
- 6:48a role, a way to do a bit of royal work
- 6:50on his own terms while keeping the
- 6:52private business going in America. You
- 6:55might remember that one, the late queen
- 6:57sat the family down at Sandringham in
- 7:00January 2020 and turned that exact
- 7:02arrangement down, half in, half out. She
- 7:05said no to it once at a table in front
- 7:07of all of them. And there's something
- 7:09missing from that document that I keep
- 7:11coming back to. The people who've
- 7:12described it say the children's names
- 7:15don't appear in the terms at all. Pages
- 7:18about police and leases and roles and
- 7:20nowhere a line about Archie and Lileth
- 7:23seeing their grandfather. Park that gap
- 7:25somewhere in your head because it
- 7:26explains how the king read the rest of
- 7:28it. Picture the king at the desk at
- 7:30Burkhall reading that. A man who'
- 7:33pencled a question mark next to his
- 7:35grandchildren a few days earlier. The
- 7:37people around him say the warmth went
- 7:38out of his face somewhere around the
- 7:40second page. He went very still, turned
- 7:42the pages face down on the plotter, and
- 7:45asked for the room. One person who was
- 7:47nearby that afternoon summed it up in a
- 7:49way I can't shake. He'd been hoping for
- 7:51a son, and somebody sent him a contract.
- 7:54Now, I want to be fair to Harry for a
- 7:56minute because a flat villain bores me,
- 7:58and I suspect he bores you, too. Back in
- 8:012020, the papers put the Netflix deal at
- 8:03around $und00 million, and the Spotify
- 8:06one at around 20 million. And for a
- 8:09couple who had stepped away from public
- 8:10money, those deals were the whole plan.
- 8:13Spotify ended its deal with the Sussex's
- 8:15in 2023, and one of Spotify's own
- 8:18podcast executives went on air and
- 8:21called them grifters, which is about as
- 8:24public a slap as a working couple can
- 8:26take. In 2025,
- 8:28Netflix moved them off the big original
- 8:31deal onto what the industry calls a
- 8:33first look arrangement, which in money
- 8:36terms means Netflix gets to see their
- 8:38ideas first and isn't promising to pay
- 8:40for any of them. Megan's lifestyle brand
- 8:43changed its name to as ever early in
- 8:462025 after the first name ran into
- 8:48trouble. Private security in California
- 8:50costs millions a year by every estimate
- 8:53anybody's published. And Harry is a
- 8:55father with two small children and a
- 8:58fear he's talked about openly for years
- 9:00that something happens to them because
- 9:01nobody official is watching the door.
- 9:04You can see how a frightened father and
- 9:06a squeeze business end up writing the
- 9:08same document. The trouble is the king
- 9:10read it as the business and Catherine
- 9:12read it too. William brought a copy back
- 9:15to Forest Lodge at the start of
- 9:16September. And according to people close
- 9:18to the couple, she read the whole thing,
- 9:20standing at the kitchen counter, put it
- 9:22down, and asked one question. Inside the
- 9:25park, out of everything in those pages,
- 9:28the lease was the part she asked about
- 9:29because the park that document kept
- 9:31circling is the park her children cycle
- 9:34through on a Saturday morning. Keep one
- 9:36name in the back of your mind while we
- 9:38carry on, and that name is, and she
- 9:41doesn't walk into this for a while yet.
- 9:43When she does, she says one sentence and
- 9:45the people around the king still repeat
- 9:47it to each other. The third document is
- 9:49the household list for the tea itself
- 9:52and it's the smallest of the lot. A
- 9:54typed half sheet for the staff at H
- 9:55Highrove telling them how many cups,
- 9:58which room, which door. It said the
- 10:00garden room and it said two, his majesty
- 10:03and the Duke of Sussex. The children
- 10:05didn't come in the end because nobody
- 10:07had agreed to the terms. So, it was
- 10:10going to be a father and his son and a
- 10:12pot of Earl Gray on an overcast
- 10:14September afternoon in the house where
- 10:16Diana brought up her two boys in the
- 10:1880s. On the day there were three, Harry
- 10:21came up the gravel and through the
- 10:22house, and the people who were there say
- 10:24he walked towards that garden room,
- 10:26expecting the old shape of these
- 10:28meetings. His father on his own, tired
- 10:31after the summer, soft about the
- 10:33grandchildren, easy to talk round over a
- 10:35second cup. The door opened and sitting
- 10:37in the armchair opposite the king with a
- 10:39cup and saucer on her knee was Queen
- 10:41Camila. She stayed exactly where she
- 10:43was, cup and saucer and all with no
- 10:45little excuse about leaving the two of
- 10:47them to talk and she stayed for the
- 10:49whole hour. The staff in the corridor
- 10:51say Harry stopped in the doorway long
- 10:53enough for somebody to notice. You can
- 10:55see why. In spare, which came out in
- 10:58January 2023, Harry wrote about Camila
- 11:01in terms that nobody in that family has
- 11:04forgotten. And in the interviews around
- 11:06the book, he called her dangerous and
- 11:08said she'd sacrificed him on her
- 11:10personal PR altar. Now, she was the
- 11:13second person in the room at his
- 11:14father's elbow, and she was plainly
- 11:16going nowhere. I'll give Camila her due
- 11:18here because the lazy reading is that
- 11:21she sat there to cause trouble, and I
- 11:23don't buy it. She's watched her husband
- 11:25for more than 30 years. She knows family
- 11:28rows hit him harder than anything else.
- 11:30That he hates confrontation with people
- 11:32he loves. And that when he's worn out,
- 11:34he'll agree to almost anything to make
- 11:35an argument stop. He's been living with
- 11:38cancer since early 2024. And she spent
- 11:41those years guarding his diary and his
- 11:43evenings like a sentry on a wall. She
- 11:46also knows the other lesson that
- 11:48household learned the hard way after
- 11:492020. Private conversations with Harry
- 11:52haven't stayed private. entire rooms and
- 11:55entire rows ended up on the page in
- 11:57spare. That's why she sat in that chair
- 12:00as a witness. With Camila there, nobody
- 12:03could walk out of High Grove later and
- 12:05tell a journalist the king had promised
- 12:07a house over the teacups because Camila
- 12:09had heard every word and she'd say so.
- 12:12And there's a part of it that's about
- 12:14Camila herself. And I think it's the
- 12:16part people miss. She knows what it's
- 12:18like to be the most disliked woman in
- 12:20the country. She lived through the 90s
- 12:23with her name in every headline next to
- 12:25Diana's. Photographers in the hedges at
- 12:28Ray Mill. And if you believe the stories
- 12:30from back then, a group of shoppers once
- 12:32threw bread rolls at her in a
- 12:33supermarket car park. She spent 20 years
- 12:36climbing out of that hole all the way to
- 12:38a crown in Westminster Abbey in May
- 12:402023. Every Harry book and every Harry
- 12:43interview drags her name back down into
- 12:45it. sitting in that armchair. She was
- 12:47protecting her husband and she was
- 12:49protecting the woman she'd spent two
- 12:51decades becoming. And with her there,
- 12:53the king found the nerve he hadn't found
- 12:57all summer. He kept his voice down. He
- 12:59told his son, according to the people
- 13:01who heard about it afterwards, that from
- 13:03now on, the family in the business would
- 13:05run on separate lines. If Harry wanted
- 13:07to talk about his children, his father's
- 13:09door was open. If Harry wanted a house
- 13:12or protection or a role, he put it in
- 13:15writing and it would go to the king's
- 13:17principal private secretary like any
- 13:18other request from outside and it would
- 13:21get a written answer. No more calls to
- 13:23the private number about property. No
- 13:25more garden rooms that could turn into a
- 13:27chapter. In 1 hour, a son became a
- 13:30correspondent. Catherine heard about the
- 13:32armchair that same night. William drove
- 13:34back to Forest Lodge and told her, "And
- 13:37the people close to them say she laughed
- 13:39once," the short laugh you give when
- 13:41somebody's done the thing you'd have
- 13:42done yourself. Then she went quiet
- 13:44because she saw the other half of it
- 13:46before William did. If the father's
- 13:48private line was closed, the request
- 13:50would go somewhere else. They'd go
- 13:52looking for doors, nobody was watching,
- 13:54and the nearest door to her was at the
- 13:55end of her own drive. Hold on to a date
- 13:58for me. Tuesday, the 29th of September.
- 14:01On the face of it, nothing happens that
- 14:03day. Nobody takes a photograph. The
- 14:06palace announces nothing. The king is
- 14:08out doing his engagements and Catherine
- 14:11is doing the school run like any other
- 14:13mother in Berkshire. Out of all the
- 14:15dates I've given you so far, that
- 14:17Tuesday is the one that ends up
- 14:18mattering most. The fourth document is a
- 14:21letter and it carries that Tuesday's
- 14:23date. It went from an intermediary
- 14:25working for the Sussex side to the
- 14:27people at the Crown Estate who look
- 14:29after the houses in Windsor Great Park.
- 14:32And by the accounts of those who've seen
- 14:34it, it's a very polite letter. It asked
- 14:36about residential availability inside
- 14:38the park in general terms for a family
- 14:41with young children and particular
- 14:43security needs. It didn't name a house.
- 14:46It didn't have to. There's one house and
- 14:48that park that everybody in the royal
- 14:50property world has had on their mind
- 14:52this year. and its royal lodge. Andrew
- 14:55Mountbat and Windsor moved out at the
- 14:57start of February, a few months after
- 14:58the king took his titles away, and the
- 15:01place has stood empty ever since. 30 odd
- 15:04rooms in the same park as the Wales
- 15:06family's front door. Before Andrew, it
- 15:08was the Queen Leather's Windsor House
- 15:10for the best part of 70 years. She and
- 15:12the future George V 6th took it on in
- 15:151931, and she died there at Easter
- 15:18[music] in 2002. At the age of 101, that
- 15:22house has its own history with money.
- 15:24And it tells you why the people at the
- 15:26Crown Estate went pale at the idea of
- 15:28another family member moving in on
- 15:30special terms. Last year, it came out
- 15:32that Andrew had been paying what
- 15:34amounted to a peppercorn rent on Royal
- 15:36Lodge for more than 20 years after a
- 15:38lump sum up front back in 2003. And MPs
- 15:42on the public accounts committee started
- 15:44asking the Crown Estate some very
- 15:45uncomfortable questions. Every pound the
- 15:48crown estate doesn't collect in rent is
- 15:50a pound that never reaches the treasury.
- 15:52And that office doesn't deal in small
- 15:54change. In its accounts for 2023 to
- 15:572024, the crown estate reported a record
- 16:00profit of about 1.1 billion pounds, most
- 16:04of it from leasing the seabed for
- 16:06offshore wind farms. And all of that
- 16:08profit goes to the treasury. The last
- 16:12thing anybody in that office wanted a
- 16:14year after that grilling was a fresh
- 16:16request for a big Windsor house from a
- 16:18royal who doesn't work for the firm. And
- 16:20it wasn't the only letter going around.
- 16:22Sources suggest the same people put out
- 16:25feelers in Oxfordshire as well around
- 16:28the big old estates near Ditchley Park
- 16:31and that at one point somebody sent a
- 16:33question about the corner of the park
- 16:34near Fort Belvadier. You'll know that
- 16:36name if you know your history. Fort
- 16:38Belvadier is the little castle in
- 16:40Windsor Great Park where Edward VIII
- 16:42lived and entertained [music]
- 16:44Wallace Simpson and it's uh the house
- 16:46where he signed his abdication in
- 16:48December 1936. The most famous walkout
- 16:51that family has ever seen. The person
- 16:53who put that name in a letter either
- 16:55didn't know the history or didn't care.
- 16:57And I honestly can't decide which is
- 16:59worse. If you're running a brand, the
- 17:02logic makes sense. [music] Windsor and
- 17:04that stretch of Oxfordshire puts you
- 17:06under an hour from the London studios
- 17:08and right next door to the old money and
- 17:11a country house in the shadow of the
- 17:12castle is a backdrop no crew in
- 17:15California can fake. Megan's brand sells
- 17:18a particular kind of life jam and
- 17:20flowers and a long table laid in a
- 17:23garden and a crown house near Windsor is
- 17:25that same life with a coat of arms on
- 17:28the gate. The pattern, as the people
- 17:30around the king saw it, was a second
- 17:32little court growing up outside the
- 17:33walls, borrowing the shine of the place
- 17:36without doing any of the work that pays
- 17:37for it. Katherine found out on the
- 17:39Thursday. Her private secretary brought
- 17:42it to her at Forest Lodge, the house the
- 17:45family moved into in October 2025 on a
- 17:4820-year lease, the house they picked
- 17:51because the children could have some
- 17:52sort of ordinary childhood behind a
- 17:54fence. And the detail that stayed with
- 17:57me from the people around her that
- 17:58morning is her hands. She read the
- 18:01summary standing up, and the whole time
- 18:03she was reading, she kept turning the
- 18:05ring on her left hand. The sapphire, the
- 18:07one that was Diana's, round and round
- 18:09with her thumb, the way you'd worry a
- 18:12coin in your coat pocket. That ring went
- 18:14from a woman the press chased for 16
- 18:16years to a woman reading a letter about
- 18:18who might move in at the bottom of her
- 18:20children's garden. And I don't think
- 18:22Catherine even knew she was doing it. If
- 18:24you watch the last video here, the one
- 18:27about Louis Halloween mask getting
- 18:28ripped in half, you'll remember how
- 18:31Katherine moves when somebody touches
- 18:33her children's world. She makes a
- 18:35decision quietly and then she makes sure
- 18:37it holds. And this was the same woman
- 18:40with the same instinct standing in front
- 18:42of a much bigger door. Her reasoning,
- 18:44the way people close to her describe it,
- 18:46came down to two things. Her children
- 18:48are 13, 11, and 8. And George is at the
- 18:51age where he notices everything that
- 18:53happens around him. She announced her
- 18:55own cancer in March 2024 and her
- 18:58remission in January 2025. And through
- 19:01all of that, she'd built the life for
- 19:03those three inside that park that the
- 19:05long lenses can't reach. The second
- 19:07thing was experience. She knew what
- 19:09lives on the other side of a Sussex
- 19:11store. Interviews, a documentary crew, a
- 19:14book. Every private conversation with
- 19:17Harry since 2020 had turned up in
- 19:19public. one way or another. And she'd
- 19:21been in some of those conversations
- 19:23herself. A Sussex house 10 minutes down
- 19:25the long walk would park that whole
- 19:27machine beside her front gate. The long
- 19:29walk runs for more than 2 and 1/2 miles
- 19:32straight as a ruler from the castle out
- 19:34into the park. And in a place that size,
- 19:3610 minutes counts as next door. Before
- 19:39Lodge, they'd spent 3 years in Adelaide
- 19:42Cottage in the home park right under the
- 19:44castle. A four-bedroom house with no
- 19:47live-in staff. And the whole point of
- 19:49that move in 2022 was the children. A
- 19:52smaller house, a quieter school, a park
- 19:55where nobody followed them with a
- 19:56camera. Forest Lodge was the next step
- 19:59of the same plan. Every decision that
- 20:01couple has made about where to live
- 20:03since 2022 has been about putting
- 20:06distance between the children and the
- 20:07noise. There's a small moment from that
- 20:10same week that I keep in my head. On the
- 20:12Saturday after the letter, Katherine
- 20:14took Louis [music] out on the bikes
- 20:16along one of the rides in the park. The
- 20:19two of them and a protection officer a
- 20:21little way behind and they stopped at a
- 20:23fence where you could see through the
- 20:25trees towards Royal Lodge. Louie asked
- 20:27who lived there now. Catherine told him
- 20:29nobody did. And the people nearby say
- 20:32she stood at that fence a good while
- 20:34after he'd cycled on looking at that
- 20:36empty house the way you'd look at a door
- 20:38you weren't sure you'd locked. 12 days
- 20:40later, the king would answer her in nine
- 20:42words, and she had no idea of that yet.
- 20:45She rang the king's private office
- 20:47herself and asked for 20 minutes. She
- 20:49got them at the castle in the first week
- 20:50of October, late on a weekday afternoon
- 20:53in a small sitting room upstairs with no
- 20:55aids and no officials, and the door
- 20:57shut. And she wasn't on her own. Anne
- 20:59happened to be at Windsor that day. And
- 21:01the way the story goes, Katherine asked
- 21:04her to stay. You can see why she'd want
- 21:06Anne in that room. Anne is 76. She
- 21:10carried out 478 engagements in 2025,
- 21:14more than anyone in the family except
- 21:16the king himself. And she's the one
- 21:19person nobody alive can accuse of going
- 21:21soft on duty. The people who've heard
- 21:23about that room say Catherine laid it
- 21:25out for him calmly the way you'd lay out
- 21:27a household budget. The children's
- 21:29friends, the walk through the trees, the
- 21:31fact that after two hard years they'd
- 21:34finally found some peace. Then she said
- 21:36it quietly, looking straight at him. If
- 21:38there's a key for them in this park, the
- 21:40children and I leave Forest Lodge by the
- 21:43end of the week. That's the version that
- 21:45came out of the room. And the people who
- 21:47passed it on say she said it the way
- 21:50you'd read out a train timetable. The
- 21:52king by the accounts didn't answer
- 21:54straight away. He's a man who hates
- 21:56choosing between his children. And here
- 21:58was his daughter-in-law asking him more
- 22:01or less to choose. That's when Anne said
- 22:03her sentence. According to the people
- 22:05the story came from, she put her cup
- 22:07down and said that in this family the
- 22:10houses belong to the people who do the
- 22:11work. And if you walk away from the
- 22:13work, you hand back the keys. One line
- 22:16and she left it there. Nobody in the
- 22:18room argued with it because Anne has
- 22:20done the work for over 50 years and
- 22:23every person on those sofas knew it.
- 22:26I'll be straight with you about this
- 22:27stretch of the story because it's where
- 22:29I'm doing the most joining up. The
- 22:31pieces come from different people at
- 22:32different times, and this is my reading
- 22:34of how they fit together. Weigh it
- 22:36however you like. I'm going to keep the
- 22:38nine words back a little longer, and
- 22:40I'll tell you why. They came in answer
- 22:42to a page Catherine hadn't written yet.
- 22:45And that page only makes sense once
- 22:47you've seen the file the king's people
- 22:49pulled out of a cabinet the following
- 22:50week. The fifth document is an estates
- 22:53file, and it's about a house the
- 22:55Sussex's already had once, Frogmore
- 22:57Cottage. The late queen gave it to Harry
- 23:00and Megan when they married and the
- 23:02refurbishment cost the sovereign grant
- 23:04about 2.4 million pounds which the
- 23:06couple paid back in 2020 after they
- 23:08stepped away. Archie was born while they
- 23:11were living there in May 2019. And after
- 23:14they left for California, Princess
- 23:16Eugenie and her husband Jack Brooks Bank
- 23:18used it for a while. In 2023, the king
- 23:21asked them to give the cottage up and
- 23:23they handed it back. All of that sits on
- 23:26the public record. The part that isn't
- 23:27public is what the estates people wrote
- 23:29when they walked through the place after
- 23:31the Sussex's handed it over. According
- 23:33to people who've seen that file, it runs
- 23:36to several pages of works carried out
- 23:38during the Sussex years. And against a
- 23:41number of entries, there's the same flat
- 23:43little phrase, [music] no written
- 23:44consent on file, walls moved, original
- 23:48fittings taken out, rooms knocked
- 23:49together, the sort of thing you'd
- 23:51normally need a signature from the
- 23:52heritage people for in an old listed
- 23:54house. And at the bottom of the summary
- 23:56page, there's a box for the name of the
- 23:59person who signed the works off. The box
- 24:00is empty. Somebody approved all of it,
- 24:03and nothing in that file says who. For a
- 24:06family that thinks about houses the way
- 24:07this one does, that empty box hurt more
- 24:10than any bill. [music] Charles put years
- 24:12and a fortune into rescuing Dumpry's
- 24:15house in Scotland in 2007, down to the
- 24:18Chippendale furniture. William and
- 24:20Katherine redid Anmer Hall in Norfolk,
- 24:22the house the late queen gave them after
- 24:24their wedding in 2011 with the
- 24:26conservation people looking over their
- 24:28shoulders. Anne has lived at Gatkcom
- 24:31Park since the late queen bought it for
- 24:32her in 1976.
- 24:34In their heads, you never own one of
- 24:37these places. You hold it for whoever
- 24:39comes next. and a file that said the
- 24:42crown house the Sussex's had came back
- 24:44with an empty box at the bottom pretty
- 24:46much ended any argument for handing them
- 24:48another one. One of you left a comment
- 24:50under a video a while back that I keep
- 24:52thinking about. You said the real fights
- 24:54in this family are never about people.
- 24:57They're about houses because a house is
- 24:59the only thing that tells you for
- 25:01certain who's in and who's out. I
- 25:03laughed when I read it. [music] Then I
- 25:05went back through every story I've done
- 25:06on this channel and I couldn't find a
- 25:08single one that proved you wrong.
- 25:10Katherine wrote her page that weekend,
- 25:12one sheet at the kitchen table at Forest
- 25:14Lodge on her own offic's paper and
- 25:17according to people around her, she did
- 25:19four drafts and cut it shorter every
- 25:21time. It named nobody. It set out that
- 25:24the houses around Forest Lodge were the
- 25:26setting of her children's daily life. at
- 25:29the family's privacy there depended on
- 25:31who lived close by. It had asked in one
- 25:34sentence that the king's people offer no
- 25:36crown property in Windsor Great Park to
- 25:39anybody outside the working family
- 25:41without telling her and William first.
- 25:44[music] She signed it. William put his
- 25:46initial underneath hers. It went over to
- 25:48the king's private office on the
- 25:50Wednesday. People who worked for Diana
- 25:53used to say she'd had a lot of houses in
- 25:55her life and never once a gate she could
- 25:57shut. Katherine sat at that kitchen
- 25:59table writing herself one. It came back
- 26:02on Thursday the 15th of October. Her
- 26:04private secretary carried it into the
- 26:06kitchen at Forest Lodge a little after
- 26:104, still in its envelope. And Catherine
- 26:12was standing at the counter with William
- 26:15and opened it there. her own page, her
- 26:17own signature with William's initial
- 26:20under it and across the bottom in the
- 26:22neat hand of the king's private office
- 26:24with the time written beside it 10 4 one
- 26:28line her home her children Windsor stays
- 26:30close to them. William read it over her
- 26:33shoulder and said nothing at all. He
- 26:35picked up the kettle, filled it at the
- 26:37tap and switched it on which if you know
- 26:39anything about that family is about as
- 26:41emotional as William gets in the
- 26:42kitchen. The people who were in the
- 26:44house that afternoon say Katherine read
- 26:46it twice, then folded it back along the
- 26:48same crease and held it flat against her
- 26:50chest for a second. The way you'd hold
- 26:52the letter from somebody you'd lost.
- 26:54Then she slid it into the drawer by the
- 26:56phone and asked what time the children
- 26:58needed collecting. The way the king
- 27:00answered is worth a minute of your time
- 27:03because he didn't sit down and compose
- 27:04anything. Her page reached him at
- 27:06Clarence House that afternoon in a red
- 27:08folder with three other things he had to
- 27:11look at before the weekend. The people
- 27:12around him say he read it once, put it
- 27:15down, and looked out of the window at
- 27:17the garden for long enough that the
- 27:18private secretary standing by the desk
- 27:21started to wonder if he should leave.
- 27:23Camila was in the room on the sofa by
- 27:24the fireplace reading. She didn't look
- 27:26up and she didn't say a word. Then the
- 27:29king said a sentence out loud and the
- 27:32private secretary wrote it across the
- 27:34bottom of Katherine's page exactly as he
- 27:37said it and wrote the time beside it the
- 27:39way that office writes the time beside
- 27:41every decision it logs 10:04. A copy
- 27:45went into the private office diary. The
- 27:48original went back to Forest Lodge in
- 27:49the car. Camila by the accounts of the
- 27:52people around them kept her thoughts to
- 27:54herself that evening [music] too. She
- 27:56waited until the private secretary had
- 27:58gone and then she got up from the sofa
- 28:00and rested a hand on her husband's
- 28:03shoulder for a moment on her way out of
- 28:05the room. The people who've worked for
- 28:07them a long time say that's how she lets
- 28:09him know she agrees with something. A
- 28:12hand on the shoulder on her way out and
- 28:14nothing else. That one line did more
- 28:17than any row in any corridor could have
- 28:19done. Once the private office logged the
- 28:21king's answer in its diary, the people
- 28:23who run the houses in Windsor Great Park
- 28:26were working from a written decision of
- 28:27the sovereign. Nobody at the crown
- 28:30estate end could quietly reopen it on a
- 28:33phone call. An adviser who rang about
- 28:35Royal Lodge or the Fort Belvadier side
- 28:37of the park or anything else inside
- 28:39those gates got the same answer because
- 28:41the person picking up the phone could
- 28:44read the decision for themselves. to
- 28:46undo it, somebody would have had to go
- 28:48back to the king and ask him to cross
- 28:50out his own line in front of his
- 28:52daughter-in-law and his son and his
- 28:53sister. I can't picture anyone in that
- 28:56building volunteering for that job. And
- 28:58Catherine never had to say a word in
- 29:00public. Think about how strange that is
- 29:03and how clever, even if she never set
- 29:05out to be clever. Through that whole
- 29:07fortnight, the public saw her doing the
- 29:10ordinary things a Princess of Wales
- 29:12does, smiling and shaking hands. And not
- 29:15one person in those crowds had any idea
- 29:17what she'd put on the king's desk.
- 29:19Imagine anybody going on American
- 29:21television to complain that a mother
- 29:23asked for some peace around her
- 29:24children's home. You can't win that
- 29:26argument. You can't even get it started
- 29:28without looking like the villain in your
- 29:30own interview. William, for his part,
- 29:32sat out on the back step at Forest Lodge
- 29:34that night with the dog long after the
- 29:37children had gone up. For 6 years, he'd
- 29:39been the one standing in the middle. The
- 29:41brother, everybody watched for a
- 29:42reaction. the son who had to keep his
- 29:44face straight at every photograph
- 29:46anywhere near Harry. Now the decision
- 29:48had come from his father in writing at
- 29:50his wife's request. And for once, nobody
- 29:53could say William had done it. The
- 29:55people close to him say that mattered to
- 29:57him more than he'd ever admit. He'd lost
- 29:59his brother once in public, and he had
- 30:01no wish to be remembered as the man who
- 30:03locked him out. Anne heard about the
- 30:05note from the king himself by the
- 30:07account that's gone around on the phone
- 30:09that Friday. Her whole reply according
- 30:11to the people near her was that somebody
- 30:13should have written it down years ago.
- 30:15Then she went back to whatever she was
- 30:18doing at Gakum, which knowing Anne was
- 30:20probably mending something. You've now
- 30:22had the hour once 10:04. Keep it
- 30:25somewhere safe cuz I'm going to hand it
- 30:26back to you at the very end with one
- 30:28more line attached that nobody in that
- 30:30office wrote. 2 days later came the
- 30:33Saturday I told you about at the very
- 30:35start. the adviser at the gate, the
- 30:37folder, the page sliding down into the
- 30:39footwell, the slow loop around the
- 30:41turning circle. The appointment he
- 30:42thought he had was with a man at the
- 30:44estate office who'd read the king's line
- 30:46on the Friday morning and cancelled the
- 30:48viewing on the spot. And nobody on his
- 30:51side thought to ring the other side and
- 30:52say so. And on the Monday, the formal
- 30:55reply went out, the single sentence, the
- 30:57properties you have asked about are not
- 30:59available. The other thing that changed
- 31:01that weekend was a list. The officers on
- 31:04the gates around the park work from a
- 31:06printed sheet of expected visitors. And
- 31:08from that Friday, the sheet carried a
- 31:10short note at the top about anybody
- 31:13connected with property inquiries from
- 31:14outside the working family. No viewing
- 31:17goes ahead without written confirmation
- 31:19from the king's private office. That's
- 31:21the new rule. And the people who've seen
- 31:23the hut say it's still taped up by the
- 31:25window. The man with the folder was the
- 31:27first person at caught. And as far as I
- 31:29can find, he's been the only one who
- 31:31tried. On the Sussex side, the people
- 31:34who describe it say the one-s sentence
- 31:35reply landed badly. They'd expected a
- 31:38negotiation. They'd expected at least a
- 31:41meeting with somebody at the crown
- 31:42estate. A few weeks of letters going
- 31:44back and forth, something they could
- 31:46describe to friends as a conversation. A
- 31:49reply with no name on it gave them
- 31:51nothing to push against. The
- 31:52intermediary did write once more, the
- 31:55sources say, asking who had made the
- 31:57decision and on what basis. The answer
- 32:00to that one was shorter. still and had
- 32:02pointed him to the king's private
- 32:03office. And I'll say this for Harry, by
- 32:05every account, he went quiet and kept it
- 32:07out of the papers. For a man who spent
- 32:09the years after 2020 telling the whole
- 32:12world what happened inside his family,
- 32:14keeping quiet about that door tells you
- 32:16he understood exactly whose door it was.
- 32:18To be fair to them, you can see the
- 32:20Sussex side of this. From where Harry
- 32:22sits, his brother's wife has had a say
- 32:25over where his children are allowed to
- 32:26live in his own country. and the people
- 32:29around him reportedly feel that very
- 32:30keenly. He came back. He put the
- 32:33children in a British school by his own
- 32:35lights. He's done what his family kept
- 32:37telling him to do, and he's found the
- 32:39door shut anyway. I understand that
- 32:41hurt. I'd still say that door had a sign
- 32:44on it for 6 years, and he's the one who
- 32:46kept walking past it. There's a woman in
- 32:48a wax jacket I want you to meet before
- 32:50we finish, and she has nothing to do
- 32:52with the palace at all. Hang on to her.
- 32:55First, one last piece of paper. There
- 32:58was one more letter before the end of
- 33:00October, and I'll keep it short because
- 33:02it's the saddest of the lot. Sources say
- 33:04the Sussex side asked whether a small
- 33:06keepsake from among the late Queen
- 33:08Mother's things, a little gold box she
- 33:10was fond of, could go to Archie and Liet
- 33:13as something from their great great
- 33:15grandmother. And honestly, as a request,
- 33:17I can see the heart in it. The answer
- 33:19came back from the royal collection
- 33:20inside a week. The things in that
- 33:22collection belong to the crown. The
- 33:24monarch holds them in trust for whoever
- 33:27comes after, and none of it goes to any
- 33:30one grandchild, however small and
- 33:32however loved. The collection would say
- 33:35the same thing to George. It's the one
- 33:37answer in this whole story with nothing
- 33:39personal in it at all. And somehow it's
- 33:41the one that landed hardest that got out
- 33:43the way these things always get out
- 33:45through one photograph. Near the end of
- 33:47October, a photographer with a long lens
- 33:49caught the gape on the edge of the park.
- 33:52the officers in the hut and the barrier
- 33:54down and one of the papers ran it across
- 33:56its front page under the words, "The
- 33:58princess shuts the gate." By lunchtime,
- 34:01the breakfast television panels were
- 34:03arguing about it. By the weekend, there
- 34:05were people outside the Henry VII gate
- 34:07at Windsor Castle with their phones held
- 34:09up and one woman older in a wax jacket
- 34:13had a square of cardboard would leave
- 34:15her be written on it and black marker.
- 34:18Somebody filmed her. She told whoever
- 34:20was filming that she'd watched them do
- 34:22it to the last one and she wasn't going
- 34:25to stand by and watch it again. The last
- 34:27one. Everybody knew who she meant. In
- 34:30May 2021, when Lord Dyson's report came
- 34:33out about the Basher interview, Williams
- 34:36stood in front of a camera and said that
- 34:38interview had added to his mother's
- 34:39fear, paranoia, and isolation. The woman
- 34:42in the wax jacket had probably never
- 34:44read the Dyson report, and she didn't
- 34:47need to. She'd watched Diana's gates
- 34:50swing open one after another for 16
- 34:53years, and she'd made up her mind that
- 34:54this time she was on the side of the
- 34:56woman holding the key. On the phone ends
- 34:58that week, the callers split the way
- 35:01you'd expect, though not by as much as
- 35:03you'd [music] think. A man rang one of
- 35:05the London stations to say a family's
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