Judge Not...The Real Story of Richard Jewell and the Atlanta Bombing — Transcript
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- 0:00[Music]
- 0:06welcome
- 0:07welcome housewives of true crime
- 0:12welcome welcome you like my my new
- 0:15hairdo
- 0:16i'm nice and blonde now oh good on you
- 0:19yeah yeah i'm jelly i went to
- 0:23the hair salon but you know what
- 0:26happened
- 0:27and i never have had this happen before
- 0:29in my existence
- 0:30yet but i'm having like flaky scalp
- 0:35after getting my hair bleached
- 0:41so i don't know what that's about so if
- 0:44you guys know
- 0:46give me some tips put some aquifer on it
- 0:48you know what's interesting though
- 0:50aquifer is the cure for everything my
- 0:52hair on my scalp
- 0:54so the funny thing is is she made me
- 0:58sign this waiver like
- 1:01not to do a patch test i was like what
- 1:03is that i never even yeah what is that
- 1:05have you ever done that before it's like
- 1:07kind of scary
- 1:09right well maybe that's what hair girls
- 1:11got to do now
- 1:13i know i mean probably people are suing
- 1:14me for everything so yeah
- 1:17who knows but i do like it i'm happy
- 1:20with it
- 1:21besides the itchy dry flaky scalp
- 1:26i think if you sweep a lip sleep and
- 1:28some aquifer maybe some coconut oil i
- 1:30know that's what i was thinking coconut
- 1:32oil
- 1:33yeah so cheers look at my cute glass
- 1:37uh you know i'm so jelly of those
- 1:39glasses i know well they're on amazon
- 1:41you can get them uh if you guys want to
- 1:43see them they're
- 1:44on youtube where we are at hwtc
- 1:49but anyways we're both drinking crystal
- 1:50light aren't we
- 1:52made yes that is what i made we talked
- 1:55about it earlier because we both need a
- 1:57little refreshment so we're doing
- 1:59i did um perrier strawberry perrier
- 2:03with crystal light so good and a little
- 2:06you know kettle oh good for you
- 2:10nope i'm sober as
- 2:14the pope the pope drinks wine i can't
- 2:16think of who's sober
- 2:18who's sober jack's job silver is j-lo
- 2:20j-lo
- 2:22he's i don't know he went off the wagon
- 2:24for a little while there's got to be
- 2:26someone that's been sober for like
- 2:27a long time i don't know i don't know
- 2:29any of those people
- 2:31wendy yeah well
- 2:35what's going on with you oh nothing
- 2:39you know my life is so effing um
- 2:42boring actually i do kind of want your
- 2:45opinion on this
- 2:46i went for a little kayak this weekend
- 2:49and i wanted to get a closer look
- 2:53at a boat that i have a crush on
- 2:57okay and so i went to what kind of an
- 3:00odd part of the harbor where not a lot
- 3:02of passersby
- 3:04go through and so there were some people
- 3:06out there having cocktails on the back
- 3:08of their boat and you know
- 3:10they said hey what are you doing back
- 3:12here and i was like
- 3:14well i have a crush on that boat i'm
- 3:15still walking out that boat
- 3:17i'm checking it out and you like you
- 3:18know anything about it who owns it stuff
- 3:20like that
- 3:21so we're being chatty i thought
- 3:23everything
- 3:24was like great yeah no
- 3:28and then um as i was leaving
- 3:32well they kind of told me they were like
- 3:33okay so see you later
- 3:35and i was like oh oh it's like that
- 3:38oh they didn't look like more to do with
- 3:40you yeah i was like okay got it
- 3:43it's like by the way you started the
- 3:45conversation yeah but
- 3:47whatever and then they go okay see you
- 3:49later britney spears
- 3:51oh my goodness i think that is a total
- 3:54compliment by the way i was wearing that
- 3:57britney spears tank top that you
- 3:59bought me okay
- 4:03i mean do i take that as a compliment
- 4:05because i kind of thought
- 4:06maybe they didn't mean it as a
- 4:08compliment okay so i don't think they
- 4:10meant it as a compliment i think they're
- 4:12pretty much
- 4:12[ __ ] but that's
- 4:16it i was like you know what good to know
- 4:18because i want to
- 4:19if i ever do get my dream boat
- 4:22on one of the dock i i want cool people
- 4:26yeah you're not getting that slip but
- 4:30sometimes you got those orange county
- 4:32douchebags
- 4:34everybody that lives in california knows
- 4:36who i'm talking about
- 4:38everybody that lives in orange county
- 4:39knows who i'm talking about and
- 4:40hopefully you're not married to one of
- 4:42them
- 4:43but yeah like unfortunately they're they
- 4:46just
- 4:46they are so whatever you should have
- 4:49been like free britney [ __ ]
- 4:52yes but then i remembered i'm 43 and i
- 4:55thought
- 5:00i don't think you're 43 yet by the way
- 5:04almost okay no not all actually i'm so
- 5:06old
- 5:07i'm i'm so old that i forget how old i
- 5:10am now
- 5:10oh god yeah it's true
- 5:14okay well so anyways so then i decided
- 5:18to just
- 5:20paddle my ass back and rethink my
- 5:23rethink my
- 5:24maybe i'm just going to be working out
- 5:26on that tank top yeah oh
- 5:28i love that not as cool as i thought it
- 5:30was and guess what neither is my side
- 5:32part or my skinny jeans
- 5:35but i'm still going to wear them
- 5:38oh my goodness gracious i'm telling you
- 5:41i have the good
- 5:42jeans and it's better to wear jeans that
- 5:46aren't so tight anymore you know you
- 5:47don't have the
- 5:50the muffin top it's good
- 5:53well who are we following it's been a
- 5:54it's been a while since i put a pair of
- 5:56jeans on
- 5:57oh true i'm in sweats y'all
- 6:01okay do we have a story yeah we have a
- 6:04story
- 6:10all right are you ready for this scratch
- 6:14are you ready for this yeah i'm ready
- 6:20okay well that song might have been
- 6:22playing at the time actually
- 6:24um it is 1996. i'm taking you back
- 6:29okay you you're graduating here from
- 6:31high school
- 6:33is that right yeah okay the summer
- 6:36olympics were in atlanta georgia
- 6:39and atlanta atlanta and you know
- 6:42with any olympic games comes lots of
- 6:45parties
- 6:46and celebrations lots of spectators
- 6:50and lots of athletes also attend all
- 6:53those celebrations
- 6:55yeah you probably also know that because
- 6:58you
- 6:58did an episode on ryan lochke
- 7:03remember that guy he'd like to party
- 7:07you did the patreon episode if anybody
- 7:09wants to listen to it it's a real good
- 7:11one
- 7:13go to patreon.com yes but i would like
- 7:17to say
- 7:18full disclosure yeah sure say it
- 7:21what he get he gets he gets a lot of
- 7:23flack
- 7:25and he still does he still does and if
- 7:29you're interested
- 7:30in hearing what i think about all that
- 7:33and
- 7:33the reason why i fell in love with him
- 7:35then you should listen
- 7:37but i don't want to sit here and make
- 7:39fun of him more because i think he gets
- 7:40enough of that
- 7:42i'm not making fun of him i'm just
- 7:44saying i'm just saying
- 7:45i'm not we're not even talking about him
- 7:48i'm just saying that
- 7:49he went to parties okay that's what i'm
- 7:52saying
- 7:53athletes go to parties people go to
- 7:55parties at the olympics it's a thing
- 7:58my husband wants to go to the olympics
- 8:00when it it's here
- 8:02i mean you know or anywhere he just
- 8:04wants to go so anyways
- 8:06so this was no different
- 8:09here in hotlanta nightly they would have
- 8:12concerts at the centennial park
- 8:16and you know who even played there in
- 8:18the 1996 olympics
- 8:20who someone we saw together
- 8:24kenny rogers oh
- 8:28crutches at kenny's last concert
- 8:32it was pretty magical so on july 26 1996
- 8:37jack mack and the heart attack were
- 8:39playing
- 8:40and thousands of people gathered to
- 8:43watch
- 8:44them do you know jack mac and the heart
- 8:46attack do you remember that band
- 8:47no me neither it was probably
- 8:51not kenny rogers night but people were
- 8:54still out there
- 8:54drinking beers enjoying the summer night
- 8:59and just having a good time i think that
- 9:02we would have probably been there too
- 9:04yeah i heard that they like hand out
- 9:07condoms at
- 9:08the the um olympic village
- 9:11like crazy oh i heard that too like all
- 9:13the athletes
- 9:14yeah they have like a lot of sex with
- 9:16each other they eat all the mcdonald's
- 9:18they want
- 9:19win medals have sex it sounds fun
- 9:23i mean if you're single it doesn't sound
- 9:25bad
- 9:26yeah sure yeah so
- 9:31do you even remember though like i feel
- 9:33like we've all forgotten what it's like
- 9:35to
- 9:36be out on a summer night with lots of
- 9:38people and drinking coolers of beer
- 9:40bringing your backpacks in you know all
- 9:42that stuff we kind of forgot because of
- 9:44cobid
- 9:46sad right girl can dream
- 9:49yeah hopefully soon well while all the
- 9:52party goers were having a great time
- 9:55there was a att security guard that was
- 10:00not having the best night of his life
- 10:01because he had the runs
- 10:04oh and when he was running
- 10:08to the bathroom he noticed
- 10:11a backpack under the bench near
- 10:14the lighting and sound tower
- 10:18he got pretty concerned he saw some kids
- 10:21drinking beer
- 10:22and then he's like that's not their
- 10:24backpack whose backpack is this
- 10:27so he goes to get somebody with more
- 10:30authority
- 10:31than him to assess the situation
- 10:34he finds a few gbi agents
- 10:38which we talked about in last week's
- 10:40patreon
- 10:41stands for georgia bureau of
- 10:43investigation
- 10:45and he insists that they go and look at
- 10:47this backpack
- 10:48the gbi they were like
- 10:52dude i'm sure it's a backpack of beers
- 10:55[Music]
- 10:59but this security card would not let up
- 11:02he had a suspicion so one of the gbi
- 11:06agents was like okay fine
- 11:08probably just to like appease him you
- 11:09know he's like i'll look in the backpack
- 11:12so he gets down he looks in the backpack
- 11:15and
- 11:16inside the backpack look like a pipe
- 11:19bomb
- 11:21so at this point [ __ ] starts getting
- 11:25real
- 11:27they start to clear the area and
- 11:31imagine like the band is playing people
- 11:33are like
- 11:34dancing around and yeah
- 11:38a couple security guards and a couple
- 11:40police officers and gbi
- 11:42are just like move up move up move up
- 11:43right
- 11:45i think some people listen some people
- 11:47didn't probably some people just thought
- 11:48they were bringing
- 11:50somebody through you know like i mean
- 11:52we've been
- 11:53in this situation i'm sure everybody's
- 11:55been in this situation
- 11:57nobody gets that like holy [ __ ]
- 12:00vibe you know especially when you're
- 12:02like kind of you're probably
- 12:04not totally sober yeah like i'm having a
- 12:07good time
- 12:08why are you trying to be a buzzkill so
- 12:11the att security guard
- 12:13that had alerted alerted the authorities
- 12:15his name was richard jewell
- 12:17and he started really running amok like
- 12:20all over
- 12:21trying to get the camera and lighting
- 12:23guys out the sound crew he's up there
- 12:25going like
- 12:26get out there's a bomb it's real
- 12:30clear the area while he is in the midst
- 12:35of getting everybody out of the area the
- 12:38bomb explodes
- 12:40it sends nails and metal shrapnel
- 12:43through the crowd
- 12:45and over 100 people were injured
- 12:50and one woman named alice hawthorne
- 12:55um she was 44 years old she lost her
- 12:58life
- 13:00alice actually was there with her
- 13:01daughter to enjoy
- 13:04you know all the concert goings and the
- 13:06olympics so
- 13:08it was tragic yeah
- 13:11and lots of people i mean you can't
- 13:12imagine like
- 13:14[ __ ] went everywhere people are on the
- 13:16ground
- 13:18it's bad so panic
- 13:21then ensues right it shook the 1996
- 13:24olympics and our country
- 13:26and who could have done this and why
- 13:29would they do this
- 13:31it was a big deal
- 13:34do you remember this at all no so
- 13:37i don't remember it either and i don't
- 13:40know if it's just because we were
- 13:42like teenagers and it was the summer on
- 13:4496
- 13:45yeah oh
- 13:48yeah i was in tijuana
- 13:51most of the summer of 96. so yeah
- 13:55um yeah
- 13:58i was 16.
- 14:03i can't even remember what i did that
- 14:04summer i'm sure i was like
- 14:06hooking up with a bunch of guys in my
- 14:09town i don't know who knows yeah
- 14:12whatever i was doing i wasn't paying
- 14:14attention
- 14:15to that i'm sure we heard about it but
- 14:17you know
- 14:19well it was a big deal
- 14:23to everybody else in america besides us
- 14:25and
- 14:26really this att security guard richard
- 14:30that insisted on looking in the backpack
- 14:34was here yeah
- 14:38and actually the backpack kind of got
- 14:39moved a little bit um when the
- 14:42i think when they secure the other
- 14:44officer looked into it
- 14:46and so it actually saved a bunch of
- 14:47people's lives because it turned it
- 14:50so that a lot of the shrapnel went up
- 14:52instead of out i guess
- 14:55but anyways this guy
- 14:58richard the hero of the night and
- 15:02the media ate it up the small town guy
- 15:05made national news and
- 15:08let me tell you about richard real quick
- 15:11richard was an
- 15:12overweight security guard who was in his
- 15:1530s
- 15:16early 30s and he lived with his mom
- 15:20he had a few different jobs but he
- 15:23really
- 15:23loved the like law enforcement jobs
- 15:26right that was like his thing
- 15:28he had recently worked as a campus
- 15:31police officer
- 15:32at a college um but he
- 15:35was forced to resign because he was a
- 15:37little overbearing
- 15:38like he wanted to arrest the kids for
- 15:40smoking pot
- 15:41you could see this kind of type um
- 15:45yeah yeah i know some narcs like that in
- 15:47in
- 15:48you know is that really what you're
- 15:49supposed to call them those people that
- 15:51worked at the high school
- 15:52some of them were like cool and some of
- 15:54them
- 15:54[Laughter]
- 15:56hold on five minutes later oh yeah
- 15:59like so you know some narcs were like
- 16:02you know give you like the sight i like
- 16:04okay and then other ones are like i'm
- 16:06gonna i'm gonna
- 16:07get this on your permanent record yeah
- 16:10you know we had those people in our dorm
- 16:14rooms that were
- 16:15i guess they were i forget what they're
- 16:17called but anyways
- 16:19it's like they just they get a little
- 16:22bit too much power and they like it
- 16:24yeah yeah yeah in the boating field we
- 16:26call it
- 16:27captainitis oh yeah i could see that
- 16:30yeah
- 16:32so the president of the school
- 16:35saw richard as real awkward and thought
- 16:38he was taking his job
- 16:39just too seriously so yeah
- 16:43he's a real rule follower kind of guy i
- 16:46also think we both have kids like this
- 16:49you know what i'm saying like oh my god
- 16:51yeah
- 16:52i know i do follow rules extra i have to
- 16:56encourage them to break them sometimes
- 16:57i know so richard
- 17:00i think didn't get the social skills
- 17:02class growing up
- 17:04like our kids so his lines were drawn
- 17:07and there was no room to cross them me
- 17:10and you
- 17:11i think both are not like that
- 17:15which is greatly not so it's yeah you
- 17:18know we try to teach our kids not to be
- 17:19like that either
- 17:20you gotta like you know sometimes you
- 17:23just gotta do what you gotta do
- 17:25by the way this chick at tennis really
- 17:28was a
- 17:28freaking rule follower the other day and
- 17:30wanted to teach me all the rules
- 17:32and it was just for fun it wasn't even
- 17:34like a
- 17:35usta really pissed me right off
- 17:39yeah that's annoying yeah i just want to
- 17:42have fun
- 17:43always so anyways richard
- 17:46saw that he was just doing his job
- 17:52but i am sure he wasn't
- 17:55also minding all that media attention
- 17:57because you know
- 17:59he was the hero and
- 18:02because it was the olympics you can only
- 18:04imagine how
- 18:05many media crews were on hand
- 18:09there was media from
- 18:12everywhere hundreds of national and
- 18:15local
- 18:15news anchors bands what have you
- 18:19everyone wanted a piece of this new hero
- 18:24even katie couric cnn the local news
- 18:27they all
- 18:28had him on tv to talk about the incident
- 18:31and as the world was celebrating richard
- 18:35the fbi was diligently working on
- 18:38finding out who could have caused this
- 18:41terrorist action
- 18:43they were taking calls pulling videos
- 18:45seeing like if they could see the face
- 18:47they could see somebody set down the
- 18:49backpack on a video
- 18:51but they could not make out the face
- 18:54they were looking for
- 18:55any clue they also did get a
- 18:58drawing from some people you know like
- 19:01that they
- 19:02said they saw the guy have a backpack
- 19:05but they never released it
- 19:08and and they were taking calls guess who
- 19:11called
- 19:12in who richard's
- 19:16old boss at the college calls in
- 19:19oh don't tell me and says
- 19:23i'm watching that cnn interview and i
- 19:25couldn't help but think
- 19:27that joel had something to do with it
- 19:31now let me tell you the cnn interview
- 19:35he looks awkward but the guy has
- 19:38never been on tv he is from
- 19:42georgia and
- 19:45it's a it's one of those interviews
- 19:47where he has a piece in his ear to hear
- 19:50what those
- 19:51reporters are asking him you know it
- 19:53wasn't like
- 19:54he was sitting at the seat talking to
- 19:55like larry king
- 19:57right next to you it's like he has to
- 19:59hear it then respond you know those
- 20:01always are like weird but
- 20:03yeah well i don't know what being from
- 20:04georgia has anything to do with him not
- 20:06being
- 20:07you know good on tv but show me the
- 20:10video because i can [ __ ]
- 20:12spot a liar well i'm just saying
- 20:15like it maybe if you were from hollywood
- 20:19it's different than being from somewhere
- 20:21that never has
- 20:22and now i mean everybody's on video so
- 20:24it doesn't matter where the heck you are
- 20:26from because you're
- 20:27like videoing yourself with your cell
- 20:28phone but at this time
- 20:31i didn't have a cell phone in 1996.
- 20:34and richard probably didn't even have a
- 20:36cell phone you know what i'm saying
- 20:38oh yeah they weren't popular the
- 20:41president of this this college says
- 20:46seems like maybe he planted the bomb
- 20:48found the bomb
- 20:49then became the hero
- 20:53the words seem pretty fitting because
- 20:55back in the 80s there was another
- 20:57olympic bomb
- 20:58that happened and the person that
- 21:00actually did it
- 21:02was a cop that planted it
- 21:05and found it and so it just seemed like
- 21:10maybe that's what richard did well i
- 21:13know that happens with um
- 21:16arson it's common for firefighters to
- 21:21start fires yeah in the forest
- 21:24yes yeah so the fbi saw these red flags
- 21:29right away
- 21:30i mean the guy is obsessed with law
- 21:33enforcement
- 21:34seems to be a loner okay
- 21:38loses his job settling for
- 21:42a ren-cop job and
- 21:45goes everywhere with his mom okay seems
- 21:48a little
- 21:49okay i'm getting this i'm getting this
- 21:51yeah i'm getting the spectrum
- 21:53okay yeah the fbi turns their attention
- 21:58to richard as the villain
- 22:01instead of the hero real quick but
- 22:05richard has no idea richard
- 22:08is like following protocol and
- 22:13when the fbi calls him he's like heck
- 22:16yeah i'm gonna help you
- 22:18so the day after richard was on tv the
- 22:21fbi says hey
- 22:22we're doing a training video we would
- 22:25love you to help
- 22:26us and he's like yeah
- 22:29i'll do it so they bring him in
- 22:33and they question him they say you found
- 22:35the bomb
- 22:37we need you to help us he's very
- 22:39cooperative
- 22:42anything like he's like anything so he
- 22:44takes this chubby little bet
- 22:47starts answering all their questions and
- 22:50then they say
- 22:51why don't you say this richard there's a
- 22:54bomb in the park
- 22:55you have 30 minutes so he says it
- 22:58and they have him say it all different
- 23:00ways to sunday okay
- 23:02it's a little given richard maybe a
- 23:05little like
- 23:07what's going on here
- 23:10then they bring in a waiver to have him
- 23:14sign his miranda rights
- 23:16and they say it's just for the video
- 23:17it's just to like
- 23:19it's just for this training video
- 23:22they try to trick him into signing his
- 23:24miranda rights away
- 23:27and he is like he pretends to sign and
- 23:29then he's like
- 23:30they're like no no richard really sign
- 23:32it he's like
- 23:34[ __ ] now which thankfully
- 23:39he's like has some sort of like brain in
- 23:42him
- 23:44so he quickly realizes something is up
- 23:46and
- 23:48realizes that it's not a training video
- 23:50that they are
- 23:51thinking that he's the one that planted
- 23:53the bomb so he does what any smart
- 23:56person would do
- 23:57and he says i want to call my attorney
- 24:00well richard like most people in america
- 24:04myself included doesn't really just have
- 24:06an attorney on hand that he could just
- 24:08you know call up right away
- 24:12um so he racks his brain and he
- 24:13remembers a guy that he worked with
- 24:15along the way
- 24:16when he was working in a mail room and
- 24:18this guy was an attorney and he was
- 24:20friendly with them so he calls the guy
- 24:22his name is watson bryant
- 24:24watson was a real estate attorney with
- 24:27barely a secretary so he's not like you
- 24:30know some bigwig
- 24:31the kind of attorney he needs yeah he's
- 24:33not the kind of attorney he needs
- 24:35but that's all he's got so
- 24:40so at the same time this interrogation
- 24:42is happening
- 24:43the media is getting wind that richard
- 24:45has now turned into a suspect instead of
- 24:48a hero
- 24:49a particular journalist named kathy
- 24:52skrug
- 24:53who works for the now what is called
- 24:55atlanta journal of constitution
- 24:58was the first person to leak this info
- 25:02this actually sounds exactly like what
- 25:03happened to my boy ryan lochte
- 25:06yeah kind of does actually so
- 25:09kathy was well known in law enforcement
- 25:12because those were the
- 25:13reports that she always reported on she
- 25:15was real cute
- 25:18strong and had a way with the police to
- 25:21get the info
- 25:23some people joked that that they knew
- 25:26when kathy really needed a story because
- 25:28her skirt would
- 25:30be a little shorter that day oh shoot
- 25:33kathy
- 25:35i think that kathy was a disco biscuit
- 25:39and probably worked real hard to be
- 25:42the first to know any situation around
- 25:44town and i know we do not
- 25:47throw that disco biscuit and we don't or
- 25:49maybe we're not making
- 25:50light we are not but listen
- 25:54after all this research like kathy to me
- 25:58she was doing her job and i do think she
- 26:01did her job well like i
- 26:03am a salesperson at heart that's what i
- 26:07did for a very long time and
- 26:12maybe if i needed to get a sale i'd wear
- 26:13a short skirt too i wouldn't like
- 26:16do anything past that and i don't think
- 26:18kathy did either
- 26:19in this movie called richard jewell that
- 26:21has come out from clint eastwood
- 26:23maybe they made it seem like kathy was
- 26:29given a little bit of her self to get
- 26:32the
- 26:32stories but from what i read is that is
- 26:35absolutely not true
- 26:36she just maybe flirted a little bit and
- 26:39i don't see anything wrong with it
- 26:40so okay let me just tell you yes please
- 26:44i would say maybe kathy's like aaron
- 26:47brokovich-esque
- 26:50talk about getting the job done with
- 26:52tits out in a short skirt
- 26:53it's possible right
- 26:57it's fine to me it's fine okay with it
- 27:00i'm with it so kathy was tipped off
- 27:03about richard's involvement
- 27:05from people that she trusted
- 27:08and our world trusts right i mean
- 27:12so the story that she wrote
- 27:17about the hero turning into the victim
- 27:20it turned richard's jewels life
- 27:24180 degrees in a big big way and it
- 27:27ruined his life
- 27:29that's why i think that the disco
- 27:31biscuit part is like hard to say
- 27:34but i don't think that
- 27:37it was meant to be like that i think
- 27:40that it was circumstantial
- 27:42that there were so many media personnel
- 27:44around
- 27:45and from there from her story
- 27:50thousands of people camped out
- 27:53in front of richard jewell's apartment
- 27:55that he shared with his mother
- 27:57to wait for something anything a glimpse
- 28:00of him
- 28:01he could not leave his house
- 28:06at all well didn't the media think there
- 28:09was anything suspicious about that i
- 28:11mean if he
- 28:12was responsible for a bombing during the
- 28:14olympics wouldn't he have been arrested
- 28:17that minute without bail
- 28:21well you would think but they didn't
- 28:23give a [ __ ] they just wanted a story
- 28:27yeah so watson you know his attorney
- 28:30although not a skilled defense attorney
- 28:33in domestic terrorism which
- 28:35they think richard is he
- 28:38still had that i don't take your
- 28:40[ __ ] attitude
- 28:41and that's what richard needed so
- 28:45watson worked real hard with richard for
- 28:47hours trying to figure out like how did
- 28:49they come up with jewel as their number
- 28:51one suspect and
- 28:54even him it wasn't hard it wasn't hard
- 28:57to like
- 28:58think that right he was the lone ranger
- 29:01and
- 29:04you know that's kind of who people think
- 29:08did it
- 29:09it's like the guy that just is by
- 29:10himself however
- 29:12watson is like listen they have
- 29:17they have you saying that
- 29:20you know there's a bomb it'll be 30
- 29:23minutes or whatever
- 29:25and so he's like if they're tagging you
- 29:27as the lone ranger that did this all by
- 29:29yourself
- 29:31how does that connect well
- 29:35what had actually happened was a call
- 29:37came in from a pay
- 29:38phone to 911
- 29:42at the same time that richard was
- 29:44finding that backpack
- 29:46okay and although
- 29:50the call came in and they said you know
- 29:52you have 30 minutes
- 29:54that was never that call was never
- 29:58um sent to the centennial park like it
- 30:00never made it there
- 30:03but the fbi knows it so
- 30:06richard was at the event the whole time
- 30:08how did it work
- 30:10so the fbi is like well maybe he had a
- 30:14accomplice which then throws their whole
- 30:18loaner theory out the window and
- 30:20richard's attorney watson
- 30:22knew that the timing didn't work out
- 30:25even if they thought that richard was
- 30:26the one that
- 30:27called like there was no way that the
- 30:29guy was running to the pay phone couple
- 30:30miles away
- 30:32making the call and then making his way
- 30:33back to
- 30:36clear out the people
- 30:39so even though this fbi theory is not
- 30:43really
- 30:44working out the way that they want it to
- 30:46they still
- 30:47go into richard's house and take
- 30:50everything
- 30:51everything and when it should be real
- 30:55easy to find out if he has a friend
- 30:58yeah it should be really easy sure it
- 31:00has a friend
- 31:01you'll be able to find out right away if
- 31:03you go through their
- 31:05[ __ ] that's right they did not find that
- 31:09richard had a friend
- 31:10but they did find a lot of guns
- 31:14like a plethora of guns
- 31:19i'm feeling for him i think he's guilty
- 31:24i'm feeling for him and i know again
- 31:27i know it's like dude and so it's like
- 31:30why do you have
- 31:31why do you have like 50 guns like what
- 31:33are you doing
- 31:34you live with your mom like in an
- 31:37apartment
- 31:39you don't need 50 guns how about one gun
- 31:41how about i don't know
- 31:42three guns shoot i don't know but then
- 31:46again i you know people in texas have a
- 31:49lot of guns too
- 31:52so okay so it was this thing he's a gun
- 31:55collector
- 31:56it was a gun collector well for 88 days
- 32:01richard endured the world scrutinizing
- 32:04his every move calling him names and
- 32:07thinking
- 32:08he killed and harmed the american people
- 32:11he was the butt of all the jokes on late
- 32:14night tv
- 32:16even jay leno talks smack on this chubby
- 32:19little guy
- 32:21and listen i really like jay leno
- 32:25but and i think he's pretty funny but
- 32:28i don't know if jay leno has the like i
- 32:30don't know if he could talk about
- 32:31people's looks
- 32:33okay well you keep calling him chubby
- 32:36and that's not very nice
- 32:38i know but he was okay is chubby not
- 32:42nice
- 32:43chubby is that nice nice chubby
- 32:45overweight
- 32:47round what do you want it depends the
- 32:51context that you use it
- 32:53but i i mean don't shame the chubby
- 32:56people
- 33:00you're like he ran his chubby ass away
- 33:03i'm like
- 33:04well i have to say it because what if
- 33:07i'm wrong i'm the chubby
- 33:09what if i was the chubby one i'm running
- 33:11every day and i'm chubby right now
- 33:13so it's okay but dude
- 33:17i don't care ounce does not happy
- 33:21i don't care if you're chubby or you're
- 33:22skinny okay well we're just saying
- 33:25we're chubby to tell you okay
- 33:29okay i'm just taking up for richard a
- 33:31little bit okay well they casted a
- 33:33really chubby eye for the movie
- 33:36so to take it up with clint eastwood
- 33:38okay
- 33:39okay now i think all
- 33:42would have been good if richard was
- 33:45actually the one that had planted the
- 33:47bomb
- 33:48but he wasn't okay they didn't find
- 33:52anything at all on richard
- 33:55and they did however take all of his
- 33:59family's possessions
- 34:00mark them up and you know bring them
- 34:01back like however they deemed
- 34:03fit which is yeah mostly
- 34:07not the way that they left the house you
- 34:09know what i'm saying
- 34:10yeah listen also i just uh
- 34:13moved three trailer fulls of stuff over
- 34:16to texas and
- 34:17this time the [ __ ] didn't come about
- 34:20the way it went in either unfortunately
- 34:25so i'm also by the way all for
- 34:28crucifying the actual villain
- 34:31yeah so had kathy been
- 34:34right in her report we all
- 34:38wouldn't have given a flying f you know
- 34:40what i'm saying
- 34:42but richard was just a normal guy
- 34:46trying to do the right thing and like i
- 34:49said
- 34:49after 88 days the fbi finally said
- 34:53he's not our suspect anymore
- 34:57but you know how that goes the media
- 34:59does not make good on that
- 35:01the media does not deem him a hero again
- 35:04and they basically just walk away
- 35:07without making up for their
- 35:11fails and
- 35:14yeah that's rough i do understand their
- 35:16position they're like in a race
- 35:18to get the story yeah
- 35:22they are but it's it's
- 35:25responsible not to ask a lot of
- 35:27questions
- 35:28that's right so
- 35:32richard although he got exonerated from
- 35:36the
- 35:36fbi's list of you know bomber suspects
- 35:40for the centennial bombing
- 35:42it did not happen in his real life he
- 35:45was deemed the bomber
- 35:46by so many people because it took
- 35:50the fbi years to find
- 35:53the guy that actually did it
- 35:58and not only does it take years to find
- 36:02this actual villain but the guy that did
- 36:05it
- 36:06bombed again and i feel like
- 36:09maybe if they were
- 36:12not putting their all their attention on
- 36:15richard
- 36:16maybe they could have like found him
- 36:18sooner yeah that does happen where they
- 36:20laser focus on someone
- 36:22like scott peterson and they don't pay
- 36:24attention to the robbery across the
- 36:26street
- 36:27yeah that that is a little bit
- 36:29suspicious or sus
- 36:30as my kids would say that's sus
- 36:33uh oh i like that oh yeah these new
- 36:36words are really fun i like them too
- 36:39my son's always like you're suss you're
- 36:40success i'm like oh what am i doing
- 36:42so suspicious so the person that
- 36:45actually
- 36:46planted the bomb and made that 9-1-1
- 36:50call
- 36:50which by the way that should have been
- 36:52their first clue and that
- 36:54was made known right away
- 36:57okay his
- 37:00name was or is still
- 37:03his name is eric rudolph
- 37:06eric was a 29 year old
- 37:10extremist originally from florida but
- 37:12spent most of his life in north carolina
- 37:16he was homophobic very political
- 37:19and hated abortion
- 37:23he wanted to wake the nation with his
- 37:26first olympic bombing
- 37:28and then he went on to make bombs that
- 37:31were similar to the same one that he put
- 37:33in that backpack
- 37:34uh you know can i just say this yeah i
- 37:37never get these like
- 37:38people that bomb abortion clinics or
- 37:40like whatever i mean
- 37:42like regardless of what side of the
- 37:44fence you're on on that can we all just
- 37:46like
- 37:46if you're so worried about life why are
- 37:48you killing people yeah i always think
- 37:50that too
- 37:51it's like makes no sense to me it
- 37:53doesn't make any sense it's like let's
- 37:56let's all agree that life is great you
- 37:58know
- 37:59stand outside and protest all day do
- 38:01whatever whatever
- 38:02floats your boat in regards to your
- 38:04strong feelings but when you kill people
- 38:06that's just well it just makes it
- 38:10makes whatever you're standing for void
- 38:13boyd to me also so anyways he
- 38:16bombs an abortion clinic twice and
- 38:20then he also bombs a lesbian club
- 38:24he was finally identified by a couple
- 38:27guys who saw him running away from
- 38:31the bombed people instead of everybody
- 38:34else was running to them to help them
- 38:36so the fbi had enough data to know that
- 38:40eric was their main man
- 38:42in like 97 98
- 38:45however eric was a real outdoorsman
- 38:49ex-military and he went on the run
- 38:53they thought that he was hiding in north
- 38:56carolina
- 38:56in the woods um which he was for years
- 39:00he spent years on the fbi's 10 most
- 39:03wanted
- 39:04list until one day he made the mistake
- 39:08of looking
- 39:09through the grocery store garbage bins
- 39:12that's kind of how he like
- 39:14he would hunt for food and [ __ ] like
- 39:16that um
- 39:18but he knew when like the grocery stores
- 39:19when i like throw out their goods
- 39:21good stuff and he would go get it
- 39:25and so he was not arrested until
- 39:302003
- 39:32and upon eric's arrest
- 39:36and all that
- 39:40stuff that they're going to hand him
- 39:43like the riot act and the death penalty
- 39:47he decides that he would like to take a
- 39:50plea deal
- 39:51to not get the death penalty
- 39:54which i think is pretty [ __ ] [ __ ]
- 39:57[ __ ]
- 39:58yeah i mean he's so quick to kill
- 40:03others but then we have to spare his
- 40:05sorry ass
- 40:09so he decides to plead guilty
- 40:13um for these four bombings
- 40:18and he says he did it for political
- 40:20reasons
- 40:22which i think he's the scum of the earth
- 40:25um he is now 54 years old and he
- 40:29is still in prison which he's serving
- 40:31four life terms for
- 40:33in prison wow that is bananas i mean
- 40:36timothy mcveigh
- 40:38they executed like a hot minute later
- 40:41i know well i think that he thought that
- 40:44that was gonna happen to him so he was
- 40:46like oh [ __ ] you know like
- 40:48i'll just tell you and i'll tell you the
- 40:51victims families
- 40:52and some of these um
- 40:55people they weren't happy about it
- 40:59also you know i told you that alice um
- 41:02was
- 41:02one of the people that died in the
- 41:04bombing in the centennial bombing there
- 41:05was
- 41:05also a cameraman that was running
- 41:09towards
- 41:09um the
- 41:12bomb to you know get
- 41:15footage and he died of a heart attack on
- 41:18his
- 41:19like on his run oh so
- 41:22i mean i pretty much think that that was
- 41:24his fault also
- 41:26oh it totally is yeah you know what this
- 41:29makes me think of
- 41:30is you know i have some strange thoughts
- 41:34yeah maybe i'm not alone but sometimes
- 41:37when i'm on my run
- 41:38because i run real early in the morning
- 41:41you sure do
- 41:42i wonder you know because i don't move
- 41:45myself
- 41:46you always find out that these these
- 41:49bodies are discovered by like
- 41:51runners or hikers oh yeah do you always
- 41:53think you're gonna find one
- 41:55yeah i do i always think i'm gonna find
- 41:57one and then i always think what the
- 41:59i my fear is that i find one
- 42:02and i do the wrong thing and then
- 42:06oh then they think it's you yes that
- 42:08happens also
- 42:09it does happen i actually was thinking
- 42:13about it recently and i was like oh you
- 42:15know what thank god i
- 42:17i track my run on my apple watch so i
- 42:19can prove
- 42:20that i do run every day oh my god you
- 42:23are so it's not like unusual for me to
- 42:25be there
- 42:26you are hilarious okay
- 42:31okay so let me tell you what happened to
- 42:33richard richard
- 42:35unfortunately passed away at the age of
- 42:3844.
- 42:39in 2007. he didn't did he sue and get a
- 42:43lot of [ __ ]
- 42:44money okay so he did sue he sued
- 42:47cnn um i think he might have sued jay
- 42:50leno um
- 42:53he did get some money he did he
- 42:56also sued the journal of cons the
- 42:58atlanta journal constitution
- 43:01and they actually dropped the case and
- 43:03it um
- 43:04because they said that it was what kathy
- 43:07had said
- 43:09was true at the time which i also do
- 43:12agree with like i don't think it was
- 43:15i think what happened to him was awful
- 43:18and
- 43:20there's a lot to learn from it
- 43:23um but i don't think that
- 43:28kathy herself no i definitely this is
- 43:32what i think i definitely disagree with
- 43:34suing jay leno
- 43:35or comedians because they
- 43:46i know cnn got sued and i know that they
- 43:49paid
- 43:50out um maybe it was too i can't
- 43:54i i i'm not positive about the jay leno
- 43:56thing
- 43:57okay i could be wrong i don't agree with
- 44:00suing the
- 44:01the media i think who he needed to sue
- 44:05was the ibi yeah because
- 44:08they he should be suing them
- 44:11for okay releasing him as a suspect
- 44:16without probable cause or
- 44:18him being named right okay so let me
- 44:20tell you
- 44:22okay kathy would never
- 44:25tell her source and so i think
- 44:29maybe i don't agree with that i think
- 44:32that
- 44:33at that point like she should have told
- 44:36who told her and she never did
- 44:39oh yeah that's got to be some like
- 44:41journalistic
- 44:42ethics yeah thing she didn't want to
- 44:46sell out her homie at the fbi
- 44:48but if he ruined somebody's life then he
- 44:51probably should be held responsible
- 44:53yes i agree so richard died of heart
- 44:57failure
- 44:58from diabetes complications he did end
- 45:01up working
- 45:02again in law enforcement by the way
- 45:04people good
- 45:05and he got married um
- 45:09oh i'm so glad but he never
- 45:12lived down the richard jewel effect
- 45:14which is what people call it now
- 45:16listen he really wouldn't now because
- 45:18now you put you put in everybody's name
- 45:21and then you know yeah if he was trying
- 45:24to meet someone on
- 45:25match or you know tinder
- 45:29right it wouldn't have happened so i was
- 45:32thinking he died without even getting
- 45:33laid
- 45:34no i think he got married nice
- 45:37um and kathy scruggs i also wanted to
- 45:41know what happened to her
- 45:43um and kathy i think
- 45:47actually never got over her part in this
- 45:50awful experience that she put
- 45:53richard through and kathy overdosed
- 45:56on prescription pills and died in 2001
- 46:00at the age of 42. oh my gosh
- 46:03well why didn't she just publish an
- 46:05article like real sorry
- 46:07i don't know there's a vanity fair
- 46:10article that i got a lot of this
- 46:11information off of
- 46:12um it's a real good one kind of tells
- 46:15you everything and that's also
- 46:17i know that clint eastwood made his
- 46:20movie off of that article there's a book
- 46:22too
- 46:22and richard's mom her name was bobby or
- 46:25is bobby she's still alive
- 46:27she's in her 80s and she thinks that
- 46:31the trauma from all this is what killed
- 46:33her son
- 46:34because of the stress and i
- 46:39think she's probably right probably
- 46:42i don't know if it's a hundred percent
- 46:43but i'm sure it did not help
- 46:48so that is the story of richard jewell
- 46:51and i'll tell you
- 46:54i kind of um i watched that movie you
- 46:57know
- 46:59and i wasn't planning on doing the story
- 47:03but i
- 47:04like really felt for this guy
- 47:07and kind of spoke to me you know
- 47:11that and especially because media right
- 47:14now is
- 47:15so effing crazy
- 47:19just like the power of the media can
- 47:22really hurt
- 47:25people that is
- 47:29for sure yeah so
- 47:33that's that that's a [ __ ] as you would
- 47:37say
- 47:38that's a [ __ ] and that is a [ __ ] all right
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- 48:41it's not a good picture of me it's in
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- 48:45um i'll take it whichever way you guys
- 48:48want to bring it it's
- 48:49fine oh you guys
- 48:53last time i had my um
- 48:56my cat on the video
- 48:59i was thinking next time gretchen maybe
- 49:02they would like to see jupiter
- 49:04my sugar glider oh for sure
- 49:08yeah and how about the sugar rat let's
- 49:11oh no we can't we we haven't
- 49:14gotten to the point of holding that one
- 49:16yet
- 49:17okay it likes to um it likes to
- 49:22make these really weird sounds that are
- 49:24called crabbing but it it
- 49:25it sounds like it's hissing at me like
- 49:28and i'm a little nervous um
- 49:31and by the way when i do hold it
- 49:35it's like i ha it's not jupiter okay
- 49:38let me just tell you we haven't we
- 49:41haven't gotten that far yet but
- 49:43he sounds like kind of an [ __ ] yeah
- 49:47he might be an [ __ ] he might actually
- 49:52not make it in our household forever
- 49:56but we are still giving it a chance okay
- 49:59good for you uh-huh you guys can find us
- 50:01at housewives of true crime
- 50:04group on facebook we also have a keto
- 50:07and low carb or whatever the diet you
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- 50:19keto
- 50:20oh this reminds me i do know who i want
- 50:22to tell to eat a dick this week
- 50:24oh who please
- 50:28tekashi69 are you familiar
- 50:31no he is a rapper has the like
- 50:35all different color hair okay like
- 50:38like rainbow bright style all right i
- 50:40don't know a lot of tattoos on his face
- 50:42oh i love it he was recently
- 50:45incarcerated
- 50:47even better um and he was he's out
- 50:51and this is what i want him to eat a
- 50:53dick for he
- 50:55gained 60 pounds in the clinker
- 50:59okay and he dropped it
- 51:02at a record setting pace
- 51:05and they asked him how did you lose the
- 51:08weight
- 51:08so fast and he said
- 51:12eating chinese food and sweating
- 51:16and i think that is so [ __ ] unfair
- 51:18because i still haven't gotten my damn
- 51:20dim sum and if i even look at that stuff
- 51:23i will gain weight and this is how this
- 51:25mofo loses weight
- 51:27okay listen first of all how do you gain
- 51:30weight in the clink
- 51:32that food is disgusting very high in
- 51:35sodium a lot of processed
- 51:37food so he had these vending machines
- 51:40he had all kinds of money on his
- 51:41commissary
- 51:43like you know snickers and balls and
- 51:46doritos okay all right so that's how he
- 51:49gained the weight
- 51:50and it's those guys i'm telling you
- 51:53guys just like think about losing weight
- 51:56they lose weight
- 51:57it is not fair ridiculous we talked
- 52:01about that in our
- 52:02in our facebook group this week too
- 52:03because it's like i'm out here running
- 52:05every day looking for dead bodies
- 52:08please do not do nothing if i lose a
- 52:11pound a week
- 52:12can you like oh god you know we gotta
- 52:14i've been sober now for two
- 52:17straight days oh my god
- 52:20two days gretchen holy [ __ ]
- 52:23well it's been a week and i've managed
- 52:26look at my cute nails
- 52:27kyla painted them teal for me because
- 52:30that's
- 52:31just the color i want my nails i think
- 52:33it's like green it's like st
- 52:35patrick's day oh cute yeah it is it's
- 52:38coming up on st patrick's day
- 52:39y'all yeah oh i am getting the lingo
- 52:43down
- 52:44by the way of texas oh you're fixing to
- 52:48go somewhere i'm fixing i'm
- 52:51fixing y'all i'm fixing to go
- 52:55get my um kolaches
- 53:00what's kolaches something that they have
- 53:03out here
- 53:04you know what it is what would you think
- 53:06a kolache was
- 53:10sounds like coochie that's what i
- 53:13thought
- 53:14this girl was like i gotta go get some
- 53:16kolaches i was like what the hell is a
- 53:18kalachi
- 53:19it is a hot dog wrapped in
- 53:24dough so what do we call those we call
- 53:26those pigs in a blanket i might call
- 53:28them bagel dogs
- 53:29it's a pig is it a blanket isn't that
- 53:31what we all call them yeah okay
- 53:32yeah i haven't okay so i think of pigs
- 53:35in a blanket as being those little
- 53:37like the little smokies yeah so i
- 53:41don't know if the kolaches are big or
- 53:43small um
- 53:45maybe they're big and so then it's like
- 53:47a bagel dog right
- 53:48i don't know i haven't even had one yet
- 53:50because my kid is
- 53:51celiac and gluten-free so we can't have
- 53:53them also people are like
- 53:55talk about this fried chicken out here
- 53:57but again i can't have it because
- 54:00my kid can't have fried chicken and i'll
- 54:04eat them both for you when i get out
- 54:05there
- 54:06i love a hot dog and i don't mind some
- 54:09fried chicken
- 54:10either oh i have a really good picture
- 54:12of you eating a hot dog
- 54:14wrapped with a french fry um
- 54:17curly french fries yeah i'm down for all
- 54:20of it do i have a view
- 54:21uh-huh sex doesn't like it
- 54:25i'm gonna post it you look so cute
- 54:28you're like 20. yeah
- 54:31okay anyways clink clink guys clink
- 54:34clink
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