Joe Rogan Interviews Derrick Hamilton (20 Years In Prison On False Convictions) | Hasanabi ACAB — Transcript

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1. 0:00uh but Joe Rogan also had a good guest
2. 0:02on
3. 0:03well it's an honor to meet you Derek
4. 0:06especially after such uh Josh Dubin and
5. 0:08Derek Hamilton uh from the Innocence
6. 0:10Project let's take a look at what they
7. 0:11had so tell me your story like how what
8. 0:13happened to you well thanks for having
9. 0:15me and Josh thanks for the accolades
10. 0:18um you know I was 17 year old kid
11. 0:20running around Brooklyn at a time when
12. 0:22Brooklyn was uh terrible and I was a
13. 0:25product of my environment I was doing
14. 0:27little robberies and you know a little
15. 0:29stump stuff that adolescents do and I
16. 0:32got on the radar Police Department uh
17. 0:35they used to search me all the time pat
18. 0:37me down you know throw me up on the car
19. 0:38regular stuff that happened in our
20. 0:40community
21. 0:41um one day A man was killed about 5 a.m
22. 0:45by some older guys in the neighborhood
23. 0:47uh the police had an identification of
24. 0:50their car they called the guy in and he
25. 0:53somehow told them he rented me the car
26. 0:56and that I was the one that bought the
27. 0:58car back and told him that I had
28. 0:59committed the crime and that I had shot
29. 1:01the guy by accident
30. 1:04um and that was my first real experience
31. 1:06with the criminal justice system because
32. 1:08it was a murder
33. 1:09um I'm like murder you know I did a
34. 1:11couple of robberies I you know I did
35. 1:12some petty stuff but murder that's not
36. 1:15me so um you know what was amazing to me
37. 1:18is number one
38. 1:20um nobody would have gave me they caught
39. 1:2117 years old right he caught would have
40. 1:24known that this guy wouldn't gave me his
41. 1:25car
42. 1:27um but they arrested me and they charged
43. 1:28me with murder
44. 1:30um and I I wonder why the police
45. 1:33uh I wonder why the police did that I
46. 1:36just I can't
47. 1:39I can't for the life of me think of why
48. 1:42the police would do that to a young
49. 1:44black uh 17 year old boy hmm I was
50. 1:48convicted uh by his jury because they
51. 1:51admitted grand jury testimony of a
52. 1:53witness who came before the court and
53. 1:55said I never seen this guy at all the
54. 1:58police made me lie in the grand jury and
55. 2:01said that I seen this guy I'm not
56. 2:02testifying I refuse to testify I'm not
57. 2:04going to get up there and purging myself
58. 2:05uh the judge told the prosecutor that
59. 2:08day that they were dismissing the case
60. 2:09that if they don't get another witness
61. 2:11this case is going out of here
62. 2:13um judge Davis Lombardo back then this
63. 2:15was 1983.
64. 2:17um I went back to Rikers Island that day
65. 2:19we came back the next day and the judge
66. 2:21said that he thought about this all
67. 2:23night
68. 2:24and he felt that the only person would
69. 2:26benefit from this witness not testifying
70. 2:28would be me therefore he was going to
71. 2:30allow the prosecutor to admit their
72. 2:32grand jury testimony as evidence in
73. 2:35Chief at my trial and I would forfeit my
74. 2:37right to confront the witness and let
75. 2:39the jury hear the truth that she never
76. 2:41saw the crime so that was my first real
77. 2:43experience I was a young knucklehead the
78. 2:45lawyer that I had at the time Candace
79. 2:47Curry said look young man get your head
80. 2:49out your ass and you better read these
81. 2:50cases and you better see what's going on
82. 2:52like they're arrowing you she took the
83. 2:54stand and told the judge what the
84. 2:55witness told her
85. 2:57um and and I was convicted I was
86. 2:58sentenced to 25 years of life
87. 3:01um and it was at that moment that I know
88. 3:03that I had to study law that I had to
89. 3:05really dig deep in in the books and I
90. 3:07did at New York State uh thank God had a
91. 3:11law library they had all the books in
92. 3:12the world how long you had to supply
93. 3:13yourself and I spent the next five and
94. 3:16six years working on my case uh in 1987
95. 3:19the appeal division in that case found
96. 3:21that the judge had no evidence
97. 3:23whatsoever I'm no advocate for Hammurabi
98. 3:25[ __ ] but like honestly that judge should
99. 3:27go to jail
100. 3:30like you know if fair is fair you go to
101. 3:34jail uh you go to jail for the duration
102. 3:39and me or anybody acting on my behalf
103. 3:41that threatened this witness that
104. 3:43anything improper unless the judge was
105. 3:44right there was no evidence that they
106. 3:46can prove that so they reversed the
107. 3:48conviction uh and I was able to get out
108. 3:50of prison uh after six and a half years
109. 3:52unbeknownst to me it was a real cop by
110. 3:55the name of Louis garcella
111. 3:57who felt that I didn't do enough time
112. 3:59for this conviction he didn't like the
113. 4:00Appellate Division decision eight months
114. 4:03later I was in New Haven Connecticut at
115. 4:05a Unisex Salon that I had on at the time
116. 4:07uh he came in that store and arrested me
117. 4:09told me I was going back to Brooklyn for
118. 4:12a murder
119. 4:13um and I'm like a murder like this can't
120. 4:15be true like again like how many times
121. 4:17has happened I went to New York
122. 4:20um I was processed uh about a year later
123. 4:24I went to trial I was convicted they
124. 4:26brought a witness in by the name of Jew
125. 4:28Smith who said that she was present at
126. 4:31the murder when her boyfriend was killed
127. 4:32that I was a gunman I had a gun in my
128. 4:34hand and I shot this individual several
129. 4:36times with this gun
130. 4:38um but her original statement to the
131. 4:39police said she wasn't there that she
132. 4:42never saw this crime she was around the
133. 4:44corner at a store when she came back her
134. 4:46boyfriend was dead the jury never heard
135. 4:47that statement but in any event
136. 4:50um the ballistics evidence proved that
137. 4:52this guy was shot with two different
138. 4:53guns that he wasn't shot in the building
139. 4:55when she said he was shot at but he was
140. 4:57shot outside in the street uh despite
141. 5:00his evidence I was convicted after I was
142. 5:03convicted was when I learned that she
143. 5:06had first told the cops at the crime
144. 5:07scene she never saw the crime but she
145. 5:10had told her to a different detective so
146. 5:12I made a pro se motion to set aside the
147. 5:13verdict and in the motion I argue that
148. 5:16this detective that never came in that
149. 5:18she gave the statement uh to could prove
150. 5:20my innocence and the judge ordered a
151. 5:22hearing for a year he said I can't give
152. 5:24this guy a day in jail let alone uh 15
153. 5:27years which is the minimum I want this
154. 5:29witness to come back the prosecutor said
155. 5:31I'm not calling him and the judge said
156. 5:33if you don't call her back this case is
157. 5:35going to a new trial right they called
158. 5:37the bat and she admitted that she never
159. 5:39saw the crime not to detective Lewis
160. 5:41Godzilla told her what happened and told
161. 5:43her that if she didn't get up here and
162. 5:44say that occupated the crime she was
163. 5:47going to jail she was on Parole her
164. 5:49boyfriend was a felon that just got out
165. 5:50she had kids they said you're going to
166. 5:52jail she said what was I supposed to do
167. 5:54here's the system telling me this that
168. 5:56if I don't come in and say this I'm
169. 5:58going to jail and I came in and said it
170. 6:00uh the judge ruled a year later that
171. 6:03again he felt that I was guys
172. 6:09if the criminal justice system can
173. 6:11extract classified documents from
174. 6:13Mar-A-Lago
175. 6:14I mean of course this is going to happen
176. 6:16you know what I mean on the one hand you
177. 6:18have this which is uh whatever a man's
178. 6:21uh uh life is taken from him
179. 6:25unjustifiably by an an unjust criminal
180. 6:28justice system that is designed to churn
181. 6:30out these sorts of results and on the
182. 6:32other hand you have a billionaire fail
183. 6:35son
184. 6:36who failed upwards his entire life
185. 6:40uh
186. 6:42have uh have a little bit of trouble
187. 6:44with the federal authorities because he
188. 6:48he took some classified information and
189. 6:51then refused to give it back when asked
190. 6:53kindly
191. 6:55for the record this is why I say these
192. 6:57people are [ __ ] ridiculous like the
193. 6:59people who are like oh my God if it can
194. 7:00happen to them it can happen to me it's
195. 7:02like dude shut the [ __ ] up okay it's
196. 7:04already happening it was
197. 7:06he said there was a Common Thread of
198. 7:08strings I manipulated this evidence
199. 7:10again I called the detective the
200. 7:12detective came in and said exactly what
201. 7:13the witness said that she told him she
202. 7:16didn't see the crime that she was beat
203. 7:18up and took to the priesthood and told
204. 7:20she was going to jail and I had that
205. 7:21jury all those cases and more of a cop
206. 7:23disliking him for various reasons oh
207. 7:25yeah totally
208. 7:26it's just one cop let's not examine the
209. 7:29system that has allowed one cop to be
210. 7:31Petty in this regard or let's not
211. 7:33examine the system that allows a cop
212. 7:35like that to continue operating let's
213. 7:38just look at One Cop
214. 7:43yeah just One Bad Apple
215. 7:45you heard that could have been different
216. 7:46results at the at the trial they told
217. 7:49the jury that her first statement was
218. 7:51the most important statement in this
219. 7:52case and that when the police arrived on
220. 7:54the scene she didn't hesitate even when
221. 7:55a dude is describing
222. 7:57every single aspect of a system that
223. 7:59failed him that unjustifiably took his
224. 8:03freedom away you're still like well I
225. 8:05mean I don't know it was just a cop
226. 8:07a cop did this take she said Derek
227. 8:10Hamilton somebody I know my entire life
228. 8:11committed to Crime which wasn't true in
229. 8:13fact she said the truth which she didn't
230. 8:15see the crime because she was somewhere
231. 8:16else
232. 8:18um I was sentenced to 25 years of life I
233. 8:21filed enormous post-conviction motions
234. 8:22after post-conviction motions every time
235. 8:24a judge gave me a hearing every time he
236. 8:26said he controlled a case out every time
237. 8:28he said he was troubled by this
238. 8:30conviction uh the prosecutor would come
239. 8:32in and tell him I'm a bad guy that this
240. 8:33is not somebody you want to release that
241. 8:35you know they put imagine harms they
242. 8:37make a judge think that I was the most
243. 8:38terrible person in the world
244. 8:41multiple judges failed him prosecutors
245. 8:44failed him well not even failed him like
246. 8:46they unjustifiably kept him in detention
247. 8:49multiple cops
248. 8:52he even has empathy for the [ __ ]
249. 8:54other person who offered false testimony
250. 9:00that's insane with time
251. 9:02um you know I found numerous motions
252. 9:04numerous post-convictions I did
253. 9:05everything you could imagine uh to prove
254. 9:07my innocence but to no avail
255. 9:09I just began going to parole board
256. 9:11around 2009
257. 9:13uh it was a very traumatic experience
258. 9:15for me because at that time the parole
259. 9:17board wanted me to a [ __ ] and I wasn't
260. 9:19going to do that I'm not going to come
261. 9:20in and see how I killed somebody didn't
262. 9:22kill I'm not doing that I don't care
263. 9:24what you say and I had to challenge them
264. 9:25and fight them for two years uh and then
265. 9:28my family went out and protest and we
266. 9:30got a daily news article put out that
267. 9:32said that I would be free if the court
268. 9:34would just basically give me Justice if
269. 9:36they just give this guy a fair shot he'd
270. 9:37be home so it changed the the mentality
271. 9:40of the parole board they look at all my
272. 9:42evidence and they said you know based on
273. 9:44the evidence that you presented here
274. 9:46um we believe in your innocence like
275. 9:48this evidence speaks for itself even the
276. 9:49judge said she was innocent I don't know
277. 9:51what you're doing in all these years and
278. 9:52they released me and at that point I
279. 9:54began a crusade because when I was in
280. 9:56prison there were several guys we built
281. 9:58something called the actual innocence
282. 9:59Team guys who I was working in law
283. 10:01library so I would read God's case and
284. 10:03check them out so what I had to do was
285. 10:06get families together get people to come
286. 10:09together and bring their families and
287. 10:10say look let's send these people to City
288. 10:11Hall let them know there's a lot of us
289. 10:13in here it's not just me it's white it's
290. 10:15black there's a bunch of us in here they
291. 10:16got the same issue that they're
292. 10:18procedurally borrowing us they're not
293. 10:19looking at our case it's chicken into
294. 10:21the garbage we don't want to hear it get
295. 10:22out of here right because they can they
296. 10:24have the power so when we start bringing
297. 10:26attention to these cases to change the
298. 10:28whole dynamic so when I got out I joined
299. 10:30that group family and friends of the
300. 10:32Romans convictions uh we had the pr God
301. 10:34by the name of Lonnie sorry who was
302. 10:36helping us keep it together and we just
303. 10:38began blasting the prosecutors began
304. 10:40protesting outside their offices and
305. 10:42getting rid of them uh the first one we
306. 10:43was able to get rid was Charles Hines in
307. 10:45Brooklyn the prosecutors sent me to
308. 10:46prison he was able to remove him and put
309. 10:49a progressive prosecutor and that agreed
310. 10:51that he would look at these convictions
311. 10:53if he was elected so he got in and then
312. 10:55two years he has underrated 22 people
313. 10:58and he found that it was a systemic
314. 10:59racist problem in Brooklyn that was
315. 11:01convicting the wrong people uh
316. 11:03fortunately for me uh the New York oh
317. 11:06[ __ ] I I guess I guess it wasn't oh [ __ ]
318. 11:09I guess it wasn't just one One Bad Apple
319. 11:11I guess it was a couple bad apples times
320. 11:13reported caught me and I believe it's
321. 11:15two thousand I need you to understand
322. 11:17that conviction or that investigation
323. 11:22saying investigation to even conduct you
324. 11:24end up literally investigating the very
325. 11:27same people that are all you the police
326. 11:29end up policing the police okay which is
327. 11:31precisely why in so many of those
328. 11:32circumstances uh plenty of them get to
329. 11:35have long and wonderful careers and get
330. 11:37fat pensions by the end of it okay
331. 11:41the idea that like the idea that they
332. 11:44actually concluded or conclusively found
333. 11:46uh racism within the way that policing
334. 11:50was occurring in this situation implies
335. 11:52that it had gotten so out of [ __ ]
336. 11:54control that a larger Federal agency or
337. 11:57federal government had to step in and
338. 11:58say you got to stop dude what the [ __ ]
339. 12:00are you doing you're doing too much
340. 12:01racism not the uh not the the level of
341. 12:05racism that is allowed or we can like
342. 12:07kind of look the other way in 12. and
343. 12:09they said why are people afraid of the
344. 12:11police I just thought you kidding me why
345. 12:14are they afraid of the police and I told
346. 12:16them names of guys that I knew that was
347. 12:18in prison that this cop set up
348. 12:20and a lawyer had contacted me and said
349. 12:23he was working on a case which this cop
350. 12:25framed another guy by the name of David
351. 12:27ranta and he said in two weeks there's
352. 12:29going to be an article in New York Times
353. 12:31that exposed this cop and I told New
354. 12:33York Times reported that and I said look
355. 12:35two weeks if it comes out you come back
356. 12:37to me and I take it to these guys and
357. 12:39she came back Francis Road but she came
358. 12:41back and I took her to these guys she
359. 12:43got the prosecutor to agree to look at
360. 12:4550 of these cops cases 50 of them and um
361. 12:49you know 20 was exonerated so far those
362. 12:51guys and um I was exonerated in 2015 in
363. 12:552014 for the first time in New York
364. 12:58history the Appellate Division second
365. 13:00apartment ruled in my case that a
366. 13:02freestanding action innocence claim
367. 13:04could be recognized on the
368. 13:06post-conviction motion and they said to
369. 13:07anybody that's innocent the course could
370. 13:09no longer procedurally buy you they got
371. 13:11to reach the merits of your contentions
372. 13:13they just can't say well you should have
373. 13:14raised this before or your lawyer failed
374. 13:16to do this before or you should have did
375. 13:18you got to reach the merits of it get to
376. 13:20the bottom line this guy innocent or not
377. 13:21and when they gave me that opinion it
378. 13:24kind of like in itself exonerated me
379. 13:26because a prosecutor now had to hear my
380. 13:28Witnesses I had Alibis I had police
381. 13:30officers who said look this guy was in
382. 13:31New Haven Connecticut not Brooklyn when
383. 13:33this murder happened we know because
384. 13:34seen a minute it was at a party with him
385. 13:36at a hotel receipts I had many witnesses
386. 13:38to verify where I was at on a date in
387. 13:40Italian cap for the record
388. 13:45police or prosecutor misconduct is at
389. 13:47the root of half of exoneration cases
390. 13:51at the hat at half
391. 13:55specifically just prosecutorial
392. 13:57misconduct is one in 20 but when you add
393. 13:59police misconduct into the matter that's
394. 14:01half
395. 14:03you understand [ __ ] half dude
396. 14:07that's insane those people should be
397. 14:09going to jail
398. 14:15like we're not talking like a witness
399. 14:17[ __ ] up
400. 14:18we're not talking like uh you know
401. 14:21additional evidence came out
402. 14:24this is straight up like
403. 14:27wrongly convicted black Defenders were
404. 14:29slightly more likely than wise to be
405. 14:30victims of misconic especially in drug
406. 14:31and murder investigations
407. 14:38official misconduct
408. 14:58yes is murdered the course is just
409. 15:01throwing evidence in the garbage we in
410. 15:02fact prove who committed the crime the
411. 15:04real murder was present when the cops
412. 15:06arrived he was on Parole for
413. 15:08manslaughter they took his name down but
414. 15:10never even investigated who he was so we
415. 15:12had a lot of evidence we had a witness
416. 15:14who was there who identified who was
417. 15:15there identified why the guy was shot
418. 15:17there was a 9-1-1 call that said three
419. 15:19male blacks cleaned in the red car he
420. 15:21admitted they was in a red car so they
421. 15:23was just overwhelming evidence in my
422. 15:24innocence but courts was just throwing
423. 15:26it into garbage because of the
424. 15:27prosecutor lied to them and said he's a
425. 15:29bad guy so my experience has taught me
426. 15:32that you know there's a lot of innocent
427. 15:33people I was in prison man look one
428. 15:35thing about prison and I tell people
429. 15:37they say hey everybody says the innocent
430. 15:39that's not true right they may tell a
431. 15:41lawyer that but they're not going to
432. 15:43tell a guy in the neighborhood with them
433. 15:44I know you're guilty you know I was with
434. 15:46you I know what you did you told me
435. 15:47everybody tells me from the same
436. 15:49neighborhoods so it's a small minority
437. 15:51of people that's in the Lord by the way
438. 15:53this is part of the reason why I always
439. 15:54laugh at [ __ ] who say like oh
440. 15:56Gavin Newsom is releasing 75 000
441. 15:58criminals into the streets tomorrow
442. 16:00bro you don't understand the process in
443. 16:02which like there is a parole board that
444. 16:04looks at your [ __ ] good behavior you
445. 16:07don't know how many [ __ ] awful
446. 16:08situations you've had to dodge to even
447. 16:11get to that level
448. 16:12okay you have no [ __ ] idea when you
449. 16:16go into prison you're automatically a
450. 16:17criminal even if you went to prison uh
451. 16:20under uh you know improper filings or a
452. 16:24prosecutorial misconduct or whatever it
453. 16:25doesn't matter you go into prison now
454. 16:27you're criminal you have to do crimes to
455. 16:29survive in prison
456. 16:31okay
457. 16:33that means you were able to dodge all of
458. 16:35that
459. 16:36despite of all of the uh despite of your
460. 16:39your interest in surviving prison
461. 16:42that causes you to do literal [ __ ]
462. 16:44crimes
463. 16:46okay
464. 16:50you then get in front of a [ __ ]
465. 16:52parole board
466. 17:00you get in front of a [ __ ] parole
467. 17:01board and they still don't let you out
468. 17:03Library every single day if you go to
469. 17:06the yard guys working out in the way pal
470. 17:07right they playing basketball but the
471. 17:09innocent guys is in that law library
472. 17:11every single day trying to find a way
473. 17:14out and that was me
474. 17:15um every single day and I studied every
475. 17:17book in there I taught law classes
476. 17:19um and I became very good at it I mean I
477. 17:21was surprised I mean I know I went to
478. 17:23college right the lawyer gave me the
479. 17:25first two cases and I read them I was
480. 17:27surprised how well I knew the cases I
481. 17:28was surprised how I comprehended them
482. 17:30and it was because of that
483. 17:31um that I kept going and I found the
484. 17:33civilian who liked me uh he's working a
485. 17:35little librarian and the first test I
486. 17:36got was a 44 and he said look man I'm
487. 17:38not gonna waste my time you gotta
488. 17:39explain what that is what's a 44. uh a
489. 17:4344 was my grade on the test
490. 17:46um I particular test the first test he
491. 17:48gave me was on the Constitution of the
492. 17:49United States I had to learn the fourth
493. 17:51fifth sixth eighth and 14th Amendment
494. 17:54um and I I failed I was playing and he
495. 17:56said look you're not gonna waste my time
496. 17:57you're smarter than that he challenged
497. 17:59me next time I came back I got a 97. so
498. 18:02from that point on I just started
499. 18:04studying I started start you know
500. 18:05gravitating to the older guys that knew
501. 18:07more than me because I was young they
502. 18:09was willing to teach me and I was like a
503. 18:10young sponge and I just I just loved
504. 18:12what I did I became passionate about it
505. 18:14and that's why I'm here now Derek what
506. 18:16kind of repercussions are there for cops
507. 18:19that do things like this none I mean in
508. 18:22our case uh the statue of limitations
509. 18:25had ran out in this cop and let me just
510. 18:27tell you about this copy he didn't just
511. 18:29do it in the police department he left
512. 18:31the police department went into the doe
513. 18:33Department of Education he did it there
514. 18:35he framed the guy in the doe they later
515. 18:38found out that God did nothing wrong
516. 18:40they had to reinstate them this is just
517. 18:42his name age in his character
518. 18:44um he just gets away with it he gets
519. 18:46away what's his name Louis garcella and
520. 18:48he's out there still he's out there he's
521. 18:50still getting the pension the city is
522. 18:51still paying this guy uh we still got
523. 18:53cases today that we are fighting in
524. 18:55court for him James Jenkins Nelson Cruz
525. 18:57are they still at your cases are we
526. 19:00litigating how many people do you think
527. 19:01that guy wrongfully put in prison you
528. 19:03know I tell you something I didn't tell
529. 19:05you Josh about this one and it's gonna
530. 19:08this guy
531. 19:10by the way uh for those of you who don't
532. 19:12know uh he is
533. 19:15a retired detective for New York City
534. 19:17Police Department who initially came to
535. 19:18Providence during the crack epidemic of
536. 19:20the 90s and 80s earning frequent
537. 19:23commendations before many of his
538. 19:24investigations were overturned in the
539. 19:262010s
540. 19:30but he's got a [ __ ] he's got a
541. 19:32[ __ ] Wikipedia page for his his
542. 19:34misconduct
543. 19:51worked on it with 200 cases my father
544. 19:54was killed in 1988. he was the detective
545. 19:57on that case I mean I'll tell you
546. 19:59something about that
547. 20:00um
548. 20:01he said that one of the guys snatched a
549. 20:04confession on his hand and ate it
550. 20:06I didn't believe that
551. 20:08I said as much as I want people who may
552. 20:10be responsible for my father I can't
553. 20:13trust this guy I can't take nothing he
554. 20:16say to be truth right just recently that
555. 20:20case was overturned Samuel Edmondson
556. 20:22case because of his
557. 20:23sloppy police work so I he says 200
558. 20:26cases he worked on I would like to
559. 20:28believe at least half of those guys
560. 20:31uh I understand well a lot of them have
561. 20:34been exonerated how many scarcella
562. 20:36exonerations have there been 20 today
563. 20:39how does a guy not just get locked up
564. 20:42immediately for that oh I wonder how
565. 20:46well maybe it has something to do with
566. 20:48the attitude that rich guys like you
567. 20:50constantly [ __ ] Channel Through
568. 20:52massively popular media Outlets about
569. 20:55backing the blue and how difficult of a
570. 20:57job the police have and they're out
571. 20:59there scaring the big bad guys black
572. 21:02guys specifically that are breaking
573. 21:04windows and rioting all the [ __ ] time
574. 21:06hmm maybe the reason
575. 21:10maybe the reason why they get away with
576. 21:12this is because their entire purpose is
577. 21:15to defend rich people against the
578. 21:17scourge of poor people hmm
579. 21:21seems real difficult to frame hundreds
580. 21:22of people is not
581. 21:24when the system allows it not when you
582. 21:27get commendations for it I don't really
583. 21:29think Joe baxton blew that heart oh come
584. 21:31on dude since [ __ ] since covid since
585. 21:34he moved to Austin that [ __ ]
586. 21:35hasn't been back in the blue he's been
587. 21:37backing that ass directly into the blue
588. 21:39[ __ ] okay every [ __ ] every day
589. 21:43God damn dude the only time he's like
590. 21:45not back in the blue is when it was like
591. 21:46you know uh the the George Floyd Derek
592. 21:49Chauvin case that's it
593. 21:58and when he says and when he testifies
594. 22:01he has two lawyers with him now right
595. 22:03I've never seen a witness come to court
596. 22:05and have two lawyers standing with him
597. 22:08we object to it all the time but I mean
598. 22:10this is how much of criminal he is he
599. 22:11had two lawyers standing with him all
600. 22:13the time I'm trying to protect his
601. 22:15rights and he don't remember anything
602. 22:16now like he don't remember you know what
603. 22:20police are defunded too much if they had
604. 22:22more funds maybe they could do more
605. 22:24racist uh actions like this you know
606. 22:26what I mean but of course you don't
607. 22:27recall nothing uh you gotta bring the
608. 22:29police reports to them and says that's
609. 22:31your second [ __ ] did you do this but he
610. 22:32don't remember anything of course
611. 22:33selectively you don't even need
612. 22:37what's wrong with back in the blue
613. 22:40man I don't even know where to [ __ ]
614. 22:42begin dude I don't even know where to
615. 22:44[ __ ] begin holy [ __ ] what's wrong
616. 22:46with back in the blue
617. 22:50everything
618. 22:53public perceptions garcella stated in
619. 22:562018 I've done absolutely nothing wrong
620. 22:58I stand by my cases 100 he has not faced
621. 23:01any legal repercussions since retiring
622. 23:02in 1999 in reviewing his case the
623. 23:04Brooklyn District Attorney's office has
624. 23:06not charged scarcilla with bringing any
625. 23:08laws during his NYPD service I wonder
626. 23:10what's wrong with backing the blue
627. 23:1320 convictions overturned 20 innocent
628. 23:16lives were stolen as a consequence of
629. 23:19this dude's [ __ ] piece of [ __ ]
630. 23:20actions
631. 23:21okay
632. 23:22and yet no laws were violated in that
633. 23:25process and it's true no laws were
634. 23:27probably violated because the laws are
635. 23:30designed in a way to [ __ ] over poor
636. 23:32people broke people marginalized people
637. 23:34that's their [ __ ] job that's why if
638. 23:37you back the blue you're a [ __ ] idiot
639. 23:38okay
640. 23:52oh man
641. 24:03even if scarcella had as a former
642. 24:05prosecutor explained he would not face
643. 24:07legal charges because the statute of
644. 24:08limitations has expired on his
645. 24:09investigations although his 18
646. 24:11overturned cases have cost the state
647. 24:13more than 53 million in legal damages
648. 24:15not including years of Staff costs
649. 24:17Garcia continues to receive his NYPD
650. 24:18pension and state law prevents him from
651. 24:20being stripped of it Michael Paladino
652. 24:22president of the detective's endowment
653. 24:23Association has defended scarcella as a
654. 24:25political scapegoat of those with a
655. 24:27desire to rewrite history
656. 24:43no I do not think it's possible to
657. 24:45[ __ ] uh be a cop and change the
658. 24:47system from within no I do not
659. 24:50I do not think that that is possible
660. 24:55if you are quote unquote a good cop
661. 25:00you will either get uh you will either
662. 25:02be found
663. 25:03suicided with two [ __ ] bullets in the
664. 25:06back of your head or you'll be fired
665. 25:09the only cops that get fired are [ __ ]
666. 25:10ones that uh you know actually speak out
667. 25:16there's no such thing
668. 25:42or found in Big Bear in a burnt down
669. 25:44cabin surrounded by the LAPD yeah I mean
670. 25:46that's Dorner
671. 25:48can't Corner the Dorner
672. 25:54I guess I did watch We Run The City on
673. 25:56HBO it was [ __ ] incredible it was
674. 25:57great and it's a I highly recommend
675. 25:59everyone to watch it
676. 26:03[ __ ] pieces of [ __ ] man holy [ __ ]
677. 26:07love the Joe still like oh what do you
678. 26:09why do you like this I don't understand
679. 26:11why is it like this