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0:00November 8th, 2010.
0:03A quiet neighborhood in Maka, Ontario.
0:06Nothing seemed unusual until a terrified
0:10young lady dialed emergency services.
0:14My parents have been shot. She sounded
0:17panicked. She said armed men had broken
0:20into the house, tied her up, killed her
0:24mother, and shot her father. For police,
0:28it looked like another tragic home
0:30invasion. But over the next few days,
0:33tiny details began refusing to fit.
0:37There was no forced entry. Nothing
0:40valuable had been stolen. The attackers
0:43ignored expensive jewelry, ignored cash,
0:46and left behind something investigators
0:49would never ignore. A [music] daughter
0:52whose story kept changing.
0:54Months later, detectives would sit
0:57across from the same young woman for
1:00nearly 5 hours.
1:02They didn't yell, didn't accuse, they
1:06simply waited while one carefully
1:09constructed li collapsed into another.
1:12By the time the interrogation was over,
1:15one of Canada's most shocking mother
1:17plots [music] had been exposed.
1:20This is the Jennifer Pan case.
1:25Okay, Jennifer, I'm going to explain
1:26this sworn video statement form. Um, and
1:29as I've we're now being recorded,
1:32this is not new to you. We've done this
1:34once [music] before. Okay. I want to
1:36take before we get this, try and take
1:39that first interview that we had, which
1:42was, you know, hours after what what had
1:44transpired, put it aside. It's almost
1:46like we've never spoken before. Okay?
1:49So, we're starting a fresh. We're
1:50starting from new. That way you're not
1:52going to say, "I think I already told
1:54him that." Don't worry about what you've
1:55already told me. So,
1:58this is a statement of Jennifer Pan, and
2:01the incident number is uh for the murder
2:04investigation is uh 310188
2:06of 2010. Jennifer, do you ever do you
2:09understand that everything that's being
2:11said in this room is being videotaped?
2:13>> Yes.
2:16>> Okay. My name is uh Randy Slate and I'm
2:18a detective with the York Regional
2:19Police. My badge number is 531. There's
2:22no one else present in the room other
2:23than you and I. And monitoring this
2:25statement next to us is Deborah
2:27Glatting.
2:31[music]
2:33Uh today is Thursday, November the 11th,
2:352010.
2:38The time on my watch is 9:43
2:43in the morning. We are presently
2:44videotaping at five district in the town
2:46of Markham in the regional municipality
2:49of York. Um is there anything we're back
2:52to this question again about is there
2:54anything else uh I need to know in order
2:56to better understand your statement and
2:57that is do you suffer from any mental
2:59illness? Have you been drinking? Did you
3:00take any drugs?
3:02>> No drugs. No drinking.
3:03>> So there's nothing that's going to
3:05influence your statement.
3:10[music]
3:12I'm just a little nervous.
3:15>> Don't be nervous, okay? I I know that's
3:19tough to say, but don't be nervous. The
3:21truth is always the best way to relieve
3:25anxiety. Okay?
3:28We are investigating an alle allegation
3:30of uh
3:33murder
3:37of your mom, [ __ ]
3:40Pan as a part of our investigation of
3:42the offense if offense I would like to
3:45interview on videotape and under oath
3:47solemn affirmation our solemn
3:49declaration. It is my obligation to
3:52advise you of certain information before
3:54we commence this statement.
3:56Just want to
4:01redundant remember me telling you about
4:03that.
4:07So, just to reiterate, uh we're in the
4:09middle or starting the uh middle portion
4:11of the video KGB. I've just turned on my
4:13digital audio recorder just just in case
4:15for failsafe measures. Um it's now 9:45.
4:19We began the video statement portion at
4:219:43.
4:22And I'm just [music] at the portion of
4:24the video statement form.
4:26Um Jennifer, can you spell your name for
4:28me?
4:29>> J E N I F E R.
4:32>> And last name?
4:33>> P A N.
4:34>> Okay. So, it's my obligation to advise
4:36you of certain information before we
4:38commence this statement. You may be a
4:40witness in court concerning the events
4:42you're about to describe in your
4:43statement. If at any time you change
4:45your statement or claim not to remember
4:47the events, the contents of this video
4:48statement you give now may be used as
4:51evidence in court. Do you understand?
4:53>> Yes.
4:56>> And for the audio recording, just to
4:58date it, it's the 11th of November and I
5:00already said 9:45.
5:02Um,
5:05these are the criminal code sanctions.
5:07Remember I told you the explaining of
5:09the of the facts of uh that there's
5:11certain penalties for not telling the
5:13truth or misleading the police. It's
5:16also my obligation to advise you that
5:18fabricating evidence with the intent to
5:20mislead is an offense under section 137
5:22of the criminal code. And if you give a
5:24false statement under oath, you may be
5:26charged with fabricating evidence. If
5:28convicted of fabricating evidence, you
5:29could be sentenced up to 14 years in
5:31jail. It is also an offense under
5:33section 139 of the criminal code to
5:35obstruct by willfully attempting to
5:37obstruct, pervert, or defeat the course
5:39of justice, and you may be charged if
5:41you obstruct justice. If convicted of
5:43obstructing justice, you could be
5:45sentenced up to 10 years in jail. It is
5:47also an offense under section 140 of the
5:49criminal code to commit public mischief
5:52by causing a police officer to start or
5:54continue an investigation by making a
5:56false statement that accuses some other
5:58person of committing an offense. And you
6:00may be charged if you commit public
6:01mischief. If convicted of public
6:03mischief, you could be sentenced up to 5
6:05years in jail. If you are charged with
6:07one or more of the above offenses, this
6:09statement may be used as evidence
6:11against you. Do you understand the
6:13criminal sanctions I've explained to
6:14you?
6:14>> Yes. [music]
6:17Do you understand the criminal
6:18consequences of making a false
6:19statement?
6:20>> Yes.
6:22>> Do you understand that it's your choice
6:24to get whether or not you want to give a
6:25statement?
6:26>> Yes.
6:28>> Do you understand the importance of
6:30telling truth in regards to this
6:31investigation?
6:34>> If you've spoken to a police officer,
6:36any person in authority in connection
6:37with this investigation, I want it to
6:39clearly understood. I don't want it to
6:40influence you in making a statement. Do
6:42you understand that?
6:43>> Yes. [music]
6:44have any questions?
6:47>> No. [music]
6:49>> Are you prepared to give a video
6:50statement under oath or solemn afflemn
6:53affirmation or declaration at this time?
6:56>> Yes.
6:57>> Okay. I'm just going to bring the
6:58commissioner in and then we can get on
7:00with it.
7:10Hello. I'm Sonia Facini. I'm a
7:13commissioner and I'm just going to swear
7:14you in for your statement. Okay. Will
7:17you be swearing on the Bible or were you
7:18a Okay.
7:21Just place your right hand there,
7:22please.
7:27And your first name is Jennifer?
7:28>> Yes.
7:29>> Last name of Pan?
7:30>> Yes.
7:31>> Okay. Do you, Jennifer Pan, swear
7:34declare that the evidence that you give
7:36in this investigation shall be the
7:37truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
7:39the truth? So help you God?
7:40>> Yes.
7:53Okay. Thank you.
7:56>> Thank you, sir.
8:02[music]
8:05Okay. So
8:09what we're going to do now is as I said
8:11what what education level do you have?
8:14>> Just a high school.
8:15>> High school. Have you gone to any other
8:17curric like after school a higher level
8:19of education? Have you been working
8:21towards anything?
8:22>> Uh I'm going back to school and I have
8:24been working on a piano education.
8:26>> Okay. There's no other education that
8:27you've sought like you haven't gone to
8:29university at this point in time.
8:31Jennifer Pan wasn't supposed to become
8:34the subject of one of Canada's most
8:36infamous mother cases. To everyone
8:39around her, she seemed almost perfect.
8:42She lived with her parents in an upper
8:45middle class suburb just outside
8:47Toronto.
8:49Her parents beach her pen and Hui Han
8:52Pen had immigrated from Vietnam. Like
8:56many immigrant parents, they believed
8:58education was everything. Success wasn't
9:01optional. It was expected. They worked
9:05tirelessly,
9:06hoping their children would have
9:08opportunities they never did. Jennifer
9:11was expected to excel. Every report card
9:15mattered. Every grade mattered. Every
9:18decision was watched carefully.
9:22Friends later described the pen
9:24household as loving but incredibly
9:28strict. Dating wasn't allowed. Late
9:31nights weren't allowed. Sleepovers
9:33weren't allowed. Freedom had to be
9:35earned. And Jennifer wanted something
9:38more than freedom. She wanted approval.
9:41As a child, Jennifer showed promise. She
9:44trained in piano. She competed in figure
9:47skating. She dreamed of becoming
9:49successful enough to make her parents
9:52proud. But somewhere during high school,
9:54that dream started slipping away. Her
9:56grades began to fall.
9:59The pressure didn't disappear.
10:02Instead, it grew heavier.
10:05And rather than telling her parents the
10:07truth, Jennifer made a decision that
10:09would quietly change everything.
10:12She started lying. At first, the lies
10:16were small, a slightly higher grade. A
10:20test she said had gone well. A class she
10:25claimed she had passed. Then the lies
10:28became larger, much larger. [music] She
10:31forged report cards. She created fake
10:34university acceptance letters. She
10:37invented scholarships.
10:40She even convinced her parents she was
10:42attending university when she wasn't.
10:45Every morning, Jennifer would leave home
10:48pretending to attend classes. Instead,
10:51she spent hours at libraries, coffee
10:53shops, or with her boyfriend. For years,
10:56her parents never knew
10:59Jennifer wasn't living two lives. She
11:02was living two completely different
11:05realities. And eventually, those
11:08realities were destined to collide.
11:11Every weekday, Jennifer Pan kissed her
11:14parents goodbye, picked up her backpack,
11:18and left home. To her parents, their
11:21daughter was on her way to college. She
11:24had earned admission. She was studying
11:27hard. Everything they had sacrificed for
11:30was finally paying off. But none of it
11:34was real. For nearly 2 years, Jennifer
11:38wasn't attending college at home.
11:41Instead, she spent her days in cafes,
11:45public libraries,
11:47shopping malls, and sometimes with the
11:50one person her parents had forbidden her
11:52to see, Daniel Wong. Jennifer and Daniel
11:56had met years earlier during high
11:58school. Unlike Jennifer,
12:01Daniel didn't fit the image her parents
12:03had imagined for her future. He had
12:06struggled in school. He had drifted into
12:09petty crime. Their relationship quickly
12:12became a source of conflict. [music]
12:16Jennifer's parents demanded she end it.
12:20According to evidence later presented in
12:22court, they believed Daniel would derail
12:25her future. Jennifer promised them that
12:29it was over.
12:31It wasn't. Instead, the relationship
12:34simply went underground.
12:37They communicated in secret. Late night
12:40phone calls, text messages, meetups
12:44arranged while Jennifer was supposedly
12:46studying. The more her parents tighten
12:49their control, the more Jennifer hid
12:52from them.
12:54But keeping one lie alive requires
12:57another, then another. Soon, Jennifer
13:00wasn't simply lying about Daniel. She
13:02was lying about everything.
13:05She told her parents
13:07she had been accepted into university.
13:10She hadn't. She told them she was
13:12earning excellent grades. She wasn't.
13:15She claimed to have won scholarships.
13:17They didn't exist. She even created fake
13:20report cards complete with convincing
13:23letterheads to make the deception
13:26believable. Jennifer carefully timed her
13:28daily routine. She left the house every
13:31morning, returned home in the evening,
13:34and talked casually about classes that
13:37never happened. Her parents never
13:39suspected a thing until
13:42one phone call. Eventually, someone from
13:45the university contacted the family. The
13:48truth began slipping through the cracks.
13:50[music] Questions started coming in.
13:53Jennifer's carefully constructed world
13:55began collapsing. When her parents
13:58discovered she had never graduated,
14:00[music] their trust shattered overnight.
14:03The consequences were immediate. They
14:05took away her phone, restricted her
14:08movement, monitored where she went,
14:11stopped allowing her see Daniel.
14:14Jennifer was now 24 years old. Yet,
14:16according to friends, she felt trapped
14:19like a teenager. She has spent years
14:23constructing an imaginary life. Now the
14:25illusion was gone. But instead of
14:28admitting the truth, you never made
14:30another choice. One far darker than all
14:34the lies before it.
14:36>> This is going to be where I'm going to
14:38ask you to start from the day, okay, on
14:42the 8th leading up until when you when
14:46the police become involved in an
14:48incident that takes place in your house.
14:49I want you to tell me about your day,
14:51what you do, your interaction with your
14:53parents.
14:55>> What I can remember is
14:57when I woke up, I had some breakfast
15:01and I went upstairs to do some piano
15:04history and I was on the computer.
15:07>> What time is that around?
15:14>> I'm not 100% sure. Time is it like is it
15:17you know time is important meaning is it
15:19is it in the beginning of the is it
15:21morning is the light out is in the
15:23afternoon like
15:24>> probably
15:25maybe before noon
15:27>> before noon sometime before noon
15:29>> yes
15:29>> okay
15:30>> before noon um
15:33I play some Facebook games so I was
15:36doing that and then I stopped and then I
15:39was doing some studying for my piano
15:42like I said I was working towards a
15:44piano degree and teaching ing. So, I was
15:47uh reading some history notes and going
15:50over some [music] practice examination
15:52papers.
15:55>> Who's in the house at that time?
15:57>> My father has left for work and my
15:59mother's home.
16:00>> Okay. Where's your mom? Do you know
16:02where she is?
16:09>> Don't remember at this point.
16:10>> Okay. I for I'm getting the last few
16:14days all mixed up together. Uh I believe
16:18she had left with my aunt to go and
16:22visit my grandfather that morning
16:24>> or early afternoon.
16:26Um he is residing [music]
16:30sorry he resides resided at a man
16:35nursing home and he had just gotten back
16:37from the hospital
16:40Saturday.
16:40>> Okay.
16:42>> So she went in I don't remember if she
16:44took my aunt but she went in to uh see
16:47if she could uh see how the nurse the
16:50nurse got any updates on him and see if
16:52she could feed him. Um when she had
16:56left, she had called me and she asked me
17:00to come out because there were some
17:02police officers on the street. And I
17:05went out and uh I asked the police
17:08officers came up and they said that
17:10there was a gas leak on our street and
17:13to exit our exit our house. So I said uh
17:17if it would be possible, could I go in
17:19and grab a jacket? Cuz I was still in
17:22just regular clothes.
17:24So, I went in and when I came out, my
17:26mother said that they wouldn't let her
17:28take out the car either. So, we were
17:29kind we decided to we were going to walk
17:32across the street to a relative's house
17:34there.
17:36And before we could get to our
17:37relative's house, uh the officers got a
17:40message or a memo from an from their
17:43fellow officers saying that our side was
17:45secure and that it might be from another
17:47area. So, from there, I went back into
17:50the house. Do you remember what time
17:51that was
17:54>> again? It was before noon.
17:55>> Before noon. Okay.
17:56>> I'm I'm I'm pretty sure it was before
17:59noon.
18:00>> So before noon. And now your mom's come
18:01back from
18:02>> No, not yet. She She's on She was
18:04>> leaving to go out. Okay.
18:07>> So she left to go pick up my aunt and go
18:11in to my grandfather's and I went back
18:13up to on the computer to do a little
18:16studying, taking a break, and playing
18:18some games.
18:21Um,
18:24whatever.
18:25>> Do you remember speaking to anyone
18:26during the day on your on your phone or
18:28on the on Facebook?
18:30>> Um,
18:33later on in the day, yes. I spoke to a
18:36longtime friend, Andrew, who I went to
18:37elementary school with. Um, but just the
18:42usual, he he just asked if we could uh
18:45hang out anytime soon, but I explained
18:47to him that I wasn't able to leave the
18:50house [music] and I couldn't meet up
18:51with him. So, I asked him how his life
18:54was, how his girlfriend, how his job was
18:56going. Um, I believe that was later on
18:59in the day though. That wasn't in the
19:01afternoon.
19:02>> We'll go in later in the when we talk
19:04about your past about why you couldn't
19:06leave the house. Okay. So, that isn't
19:08that hasn't gone unnoticed, but we're
19:10not going to talk about that right now.
19:11We're talking about that day.
19:12>> Okay.
19:13>> So, continue on.
19:15>> Um, I think my mom came home at about
19:203 or so. I'm not sure where she went
19:24with my aunt. She uh came home and
19:27unpacked and started preparing dinner.
19:31Um,
19:33my father came home
19:38My father came home about 4:20,
19:424:30. It was later than he usually does.
19:45He normally comes home about 10 to 4.
19:48Um, when my mother asked him where he
19:51had been, he had said he had forgotten
19:52to lock his toolbox at work or
19:57something about along the lines of he
19:59had to go back to work cuz he had
20:00forgotten to uh close something or lock
20:04something up. Where does your dad work?
20:06>> Um, Coobe and Stell. Um, it's
20:10Middlefield and
20:14South Fitch.
20:15>> Okay, continue. So, he comes, he's home
20:17now late at 4:20, 4:30.
20:19>> 4:30. And he phoned and asked my uncle
20:23Nam if he wanted to go to go buy some
20:27like heat covers and a USB pen.
20:32So, he immediately left. Not shortly
20:34after that, maybe 4:30, a little bit
20:37after that. And on Monday nights, my
20:39mother goes dancing. [music]
20:41So, she had finished dinner and me and
20:45her ate dinner first.
20:47>> What time did you guys have dinner
20:48around?
20:50>> 5 5:30.
20:51>> Mhm.
20:52>> And then she had then my father came
20:55home and he had dinner.
20:57>> And what time did your dad get home?
21:02I
21:05I'd say sometime between 6:00 and 6:30
21:08because my mother was able to clean up
21:10before going out to dancing.
21:12>> When your dad comes home, do you
21:14remember seeing what type of bags he was
21:15carrying when he came in?
21:17>> I I wasn't downstairs when he came
21:19through the door. I had gone upstairs
21:21already.
21:22>> Okay. So, you don't know where he went
21:24shopping at? Um, all I know is that when
21:26I came down to greet him after he had
21:28come home, he had shown me this uh
21:30heating cover that he had bought for the
21:33house.
21:34>> Didn't have a label on it. Didn't you
21:36didn't see
21:36>> He took it out of the bag or I He did He
21:38just showed me the the cover itself. He
21:41didn't like
21:43>> Did you see the USB stick?
21:44>> I believe the USB stick was for my
21:46uncle. If they bought it or not, I
21:48>> don't know.
21:48>> I'm not sure.
21:49>> Okay. So, it's now 6:00 to 6:30 cuz your
21:53dad's now home and eating and your mom
21:54said you say your mom cleans up.
21:56>> Yep. And then she leaves at 7:00 and my
21:59father goes up to his computer like he
22:01normally does.
22:02>> Yes.
22:02>> And he's on the computer watching like
22:04news. I'm not sure what he's doing. I'm
22:07in my room while I believe at this point
22:10I had called my friend.
22:12>> By the autumn of 2010, Jennifer Pan had
22:15run out of options. Her parents knew she
22:18had lied. They no longer trusted her.
22:21Her movements were monitored. She had
22:24little privacy. And according to
22:27evidence later presented in court, her
22:29relationship with Daniel Wong had become
22:32almost impossible to maintain.
22:36To Jennifer, it may have felt like her
22:39entire world was closing in. But the
22:42investigators would later argue that
22:45instead of accepting the consequences,
22:48she chose another path, one that would
22:51change several lives forever.
22:55Police would later uncover an unusual
22:57pattern. Jennifer wasn't just speaking
23:00to Daniel. She was also communicating
23:02with people connected to him. Amongst
23:04them, a man named Lenford Crawford
23:10and another named Eric Sniper Carti.
23:16As investigators pieced through the
23:19timeline, they believed these
23:21conversations were not random. According
23:24to the prosecutors,
23:26they were the early stages of mother
23:29conspiracy. Detectives already knew the
23:32answer. Phone records will later show
23:34connections that Jennifer insisted
23:37didn't exist. They weren't asking
23:40because they needed information. They
23:42were asking to measure the distance
23:44between Jennifer and the truth.
23:47Investigators believed the plan
23:50accelerated.
23:52Calls became more frequent. Meetings
23:54were allegedly arranged and according to
23:57court testimony,
23:59money was discussed.
24:01The alleged target was Jennifer's own
24:04parents. The plan, according to
24:07prosecutors, was simple. Late at night,
24:10men would enter the pan family home.
24:13Jennifer would appear to be another
24:15victim. [music] The mothers would look
24:17like a violent home invasion. Nothing
24:20would point back to her. If successful,
24:24Jennifer would inherit part of her
24:26parents' estates and perhaps the freedom
24:29she believed had been taken away from
24:32her. At least that was the prosecution's
24:34theory based on the evidence
24:37presented in court. No one outside that
24:41home had an idea what was about to
24:44happen. Inside, Jennifer's parents
24:47prepared for another ordinary evening.
24:50Her mother [ __ ] pen went to bed. Her
24:54father Hi and Penn was relaxing
24:56downstairs. [music] Jennifer waited. For
24:59months this was the version Jennifer
25:03wanted everyone to believe. The random
25:06home invasion, an unimaginable tragedy.
25:09But detectives will soon discover
25:12that one witness has survived and his
25:15memory would change everything.
25:18>> So we're back on track here. It's now
25:22you're back on the phone. You've come
25:23from the washroom, taken the mute button
25:24off, and you're now on the phone with
25:26Edward.
25:26>> Mhm.
25:28>> Where's your mom? Have you heard your
25:30mom come up the stairs? Is she still
25:31downstairs?
25:32>> She's still downstairs.
25:33>> She's still downstairs. Okay,
25:36continue on.
25:38>> I'm just I had my TV on cuz I was
25:40watching TV.
25:41>> Yes.
25:41>> Uh
25:44I don't remember what show I was
25:46watching. believe it was amazing amazing
25:50race. I'm I'm not 100% sure at this
25:53moment. Uh so I was watching TV and on
25:55the phone was Ed as well.
25:56>> Okay.
25:58>> And then
26:01I the next thing I remember is my mother
26:04calling down from my father.
26:07>> What is she saying? [music]
26:09>> She's calling him by his name and to
26:10come down.
26:12>> Okay. Does So give us verbatim what do
26:14you hear her saying? Is it in the
26:17Vietnamese Chinese or is it in English?
26:19>> It's in Vietnamese.
26:20>> Okay. And what do you hear her say
26:22>> in Vietnamese? It's like ho.
26:26>> And what does that translate to?
26:28>> Uh that's my father's name. Han, uh come
26:31down here.
26:32>> Does she say anything else associated
26:34with that with that?
26:36>> I can't hear clearly because like I was
26:39on the phone and the TV was on, but
26:41that's what I heard. Is she yelling or
26:44is it um normally
26:46>> it's a loud it's a she's not yelling but
26:48it's a loud tone.
26:49>> Okay.
26:50>> And normally that tone means that I need
26:53to go down and see what's happening
26:55usually. So that's when I told him I
26:58told Edward I was like okay I got to go.
26:59I'll call you later. And I hang up the
27:01phone with him.
27:02>> Have you heard anything else at this
27:04point in time?
27:05>> As I'm hanging up the phone with him I
27:07hear footsteps going up the stairs.
27:09>> Okay. But they're not
27:12they're heavier footsteps than what is
27:14to be expected from my parents.
27:17>> Okay.
27:18>> And then I hear mumbling and someone's
27:21in the master bedroom and I hear the bed
27:25being tossed and I just froze where I
27:27was.
27:30I have to say I don't know how long they
27:33were in there, but I heard somebody
27:37going down the stairs. So, at this
27:40point, I opened my door.
27:43I peered out, and there was a person
27:48in the my what would have been my
27:50brother's room.
27:51>> And where's your brother's room located?
27:53>> Uh, just a little bit down the like I
27:54could see my from my doorway to his
27:56doorway, just a little bit down the
27:58hall.
27:59>> Okay.
28:02and he looks at me and he pulls out his
28:03gun
28:06and he walks towards me and like sits me
28:09down on my bed cuz my bed is within a
28:12step from my door
28:15and he's like, "Where's the money? Do
28:17you have any money? Give me your money."
28:26So, I had some money that I had saved up
28:28from serving and I was also planning on
28:31buying a new cell phone cuz my contract
28:33was finishing with Rogers
28:37and the phone I'm currently using has
28:40not good reception. So, I had about
28:43$2,000
28:45saved up.
28:49And so, I opened my drawer and I pointed
28:52at it and he picked it up and took the
28:56cash and put it in his pocket.
29:03At this point, he ties my hands behind
29:05my back
29:08and he walks me out. Okay. So, stop
29:10right there for a second.
29:12Okay. I want you, now that you've got
29:14him right there, I want you to describe
29:16him to me. What you can remember,
29:19[music] every little detail.
29:27He's black dreadlocks.
29:32>> How long are the dreadlocks? They
29:34about
29:35>> show me on your on your on your own body
29:37where they where you would see
29:38>> about shoulder length.
29:40>> Okay.
29:40>> But they were long enough that they were
29:44able to move.
29:48>> Uh he's I would he's medium build and he
29:54is slight
29:57when [snorts] I was standing I was
29:59almost eye level with him.
30:03And you're how
30:04>> when you came up to me I'm about 5'7.
30:06>> Okay.
30:12>> Clothing.
30:12>> All I could remember is dark clothing.
30:20>> Now you got a you've got a gun pointed
30:23at you.
30:23>> Yes. Describe. And then he
30:24[clears throat] told Okay. Uh, the gun
30:28was black
30:31with [music] um almost
30:35not a triangle, but it
30:38kind of tapered a little on the handle.
30:43And I would describe it as like um what
30:46I see on TV for like police officers,
30:50kind of like like a like a handgun sort
30:53of thing.
30:56And the whole time he kept telling me to
30:59look down
31:02[music]
31:03cuz my bedroom was dark but the hallway
31:06was lit. So he kept telling me to look
31:08down. Look down
31:12at this point. [sighs]
31:14>> Any accent?
31:18>> Not from this particular person.
31:20>> Does he sound like he was born and
31:21raised in Canada?
31:25I'd say I would say that he was born in
31:28Canada, but
31:31like there was no sign of an accent in
31:33his
31:34>> and that's not what I mean culturally.
31:35I'm talking about the language. You
31:36know, you can tell someone who's spent a
31:39long time as a young age from starting
31:41because there there is no it's it's
31:43normal normal speech. Is that what
31:45you're saying?
31:46>> Yes. And at this point now he's behind
31:48me. He had grabbed me at the shirt and
31:52he had pulled me in front of him and uh
31:56was pushing me towards the stairs.
31:59>> Okay.
32:02>> What does he say?
32:04>> He keeps yelling, "Hurry up. Hurry up.
32:10Do what we're saying and no one will get
32:12hurt."
32:15>> Okay.
32:17>> [music]
32:24>> And then he takes me down the stairs
32:27and the lights on the main floor are all
32:30turned off.
32:33We take
32:38my stairs are a little curved and we
32:40just went he sat he made me push me down
32:45by my shoulders and told me to sit on
32:47the floor.
32:48>> Do you feel the gun? Is he using his
32:51hand?
32:51>> He's using his hand to lead me down the
32:54stairs and force me to sit down. Only
32:57one hand.
32:58>> Okay. You see the gun again?
33:01>> At this point, I'm looking down and he's
33:03behind me, so I don't see his gun.
33:06>> Um, but I can see there's two other
33:11shadows and I can see him.
33:15From where I was standing, my father was
33:17sitting on the right and my mother was
33:19sitting on the left.
33:20>> Sitting where?
33:21>> On a couch. On our couch.
33:24>> Sitting on the couch. Are they looking
33:26out towards you? No, their backs are
33:28towards me.
33:29>> Okay. And you're now on the ground
33:32level. Are you on the floor or on the
33:34sitting?
33:34>> I'm sitting on the floor. I'm sitting on
33:35the floor.
33:36>> All right. Where are your hands?
33:38>> They had tied my hands. As I said,
33:40>> let's go back up to the stairs. Remember
33:41we said take the other statement and
33:44whatever we've said before.
33:45>> No, I I said it earlier.
33:47>> Okay, then we must let's let's get back
33:48to that area. I think you might have
33:49touched on it. We went back into the
33:51description. So, where does where do you
33:53get your hands tied and where does the
33:54string come from?
33:56I'm not sure where the string comes
33:57from, but he had the string.
34:00>> Okay.
34:01>> And he after I gave him my money, that's
34:04when he tied my hands.
34:06>> And how did that happen? Where were you?
34:09In the room, in the hallway, where did
34:10that
34:10>> he told me to sit down on the edge of my
34:13bed?
34:14>> Yes. And that's when I opened he show he
34:18show told me showed show show me and I
34:21pulled open my my drawer my dresser and
34:25he saw the money and he picked it up my
34:29book and then he opened up the book and
34:30grabbed the cash put in his pocket.
34:32>> Okay.
34:35>> At this point he still has the gun
34:37pointing towards me
34:40and he
34:46You're doing great. You're doing
34:48fabulous. Okay. So, he's got the gun
34:51pointed at you.
34:55>> And how do the hands get behind your
34:57back?
34:57>> He told me to put my hands behind my
34:59back.
35:00>> Okay,
35:04continue.
35:15I believe he had
35:19[music]
35:22I'm sorry. I'm just trying to be 100%
35:24certain
35:25>> and it's just it's pieces that I'm
35:27>> then roll through them. We'll put the
35:29pieces together.
35:33[clears throat]
35:33>> I
35:35>> You've got the money out of the drawer.
35:36Open the drawer.
35:37>> Put it in his pocket. I'm sitting on my
35:38bed. Yes.
35:41>> And he had told me to put my hands
35:42behind my back.
35:44>> Okay.
35:47>> But it was dark.
35:50So I believe he told me to stand up so
35:53he could tie my hands together.
35:56And I was trying to
35:59make it loose so I could
36:02I could do something, but he had pulled
36:04them so tight.
36:07And he made sure I squealled before he
36:11[music]
36:12before he let go.
36:14>> Is your TV on?
36:16>> Okay.
36:16>> My TV's on the whole time.
36:18>> Okay.
36:22>> So, you've squealled. They're tight and
36:24they're behind your back.
36:26>> And that's when he grabs me and starts
36:27leading me down the stairs.
36:29>> Okay. Does he pat you down or search you
36:31or do anything?
36:32>> Thank goodness no cuz if he had pat me
36:34down, he would have found my phone.
36:36>> Okay. So you you're now down at the
36:39bottom of the stairs. You at this point
36:42in time you've only seen one person or
36:43have you seen the others before you get
36:45to the bottom of the stairs?
36:45>> Before I get to the bottom of the
36:46stairs, I had seen one person.
36:51>> Okay. So now you're at the bottom of the
36:53stairs.
36:54>> And he keeps telling these guys to hurry
36:55up. Hurry up. It's taking too long.
36:59And he he told me to look down, but I
37:04was able to
37:06see out of my peripheral.
37:14A man that I will call number three
37:17because I associated with him the least.
37:22He had a gun,
37:27pointed at my father,
37:30asking him if he had money in his wallet
37:35and where the money was in the house.
37:39And he asked my father how much he had
37:41in his wallet. And my father answered
37:43him, " $60." And he kept yelling, "You
37:46better not be lying to me. Is there
37:48more? Where is the rest?
37:53and
37:57another person who was hiding behind
38:00the wall in the kitchen. From where I
38:03stood, I couldn't see him at first.
38:06He had was asking my mother where her
38:08purse was.
38:10>> So, hang on a second. Who is this? Is
38:12this another another guy? Is this number
38:13a number? You've gone from a number one
38:15to a number three.
38:16>> Yes. I I call this guy number two.
38:18>> Okay. So number three, let's stick with
38:20number three. What What can you describe
38:22of him, if anything,
38:25including the gun?
38:28>> I can only see that there was a round
38:32kind of like a revolver.
38:35Sorry.
38:36>> That's okay.
38:37Remember, if you have to stop and take
38:39some deep breaths, it that really does
38:41help the process. any any interaction,
38:44any communication going on between you
38:46and number one and and number two while
38:47this is being while you're being bound?
38:50>> My mother's calling for me.
38:52>> Okay.
38:53>> And they keep saying
38:55that
38:57shut up. [music]
39:00>> Who's saying that to who?
39:02>> Number three is downstairs and she's
39:04telling her to shut up.
39:05>> She's telling her to shut up. What's
39:07your dad doing?
39:08>> I can't hear my father.
39:10>> Okay.
39:12>> [clears throat]
39:14>> You're now bound to this to the to the
39:16railing. Can you show me? Can you stand
39:19up and turn around and tell me just show
39:20on the camera how your hands are bound
39:24and how you are against the railing? You
39:26don't have to sit down. I just need to
39:27see how you work.
39:32[music]
39:35Can I just tell you? The only reason
39:38that I'm trying to I I need to do this
39:40is that I'm also going to ask you is
39:42that it's so take this back to from take
39:44it out of a traumatizing event, which it
39:46is, and put put yourself into a more
39:48clinical position because I want to see
39:50how you could physically get your phone
39:52out of your waistband. We're obviously
39:54going to need to know that. It's very
39:55important. So, traumatize a wide way.
39:58Now, put yourself into a just a state of
40:01I need to man mechanically show how I
40:04can get access to my phone. Okay?
40:06because that's obviously very relevant.
40:07I we know you made the phone call, but
40:10questions are going to obviously raise
40:12is that if my hands are bound and I'm
40:14against the railing, how do I talk to a
40:16911 operator? Okay, so clinically, this
40:19is now a clinical demonstration.
40:22Just stand up, focus in on how you did
40:25it,
40:31and I want you to stick that in your
40:32waistband as an example. Okay? So, take
40:35your just take your sweater off cuz this
40:36will be a very smooth, very quick thing.
40:38It's a one-time demonstration. I'm not
40:40going to ask you to repeat it, but I
40:42need to go through it. Okay? So, just
40:43take your sweater off.
40:54Stand up and turn around.
40:57Put this in the side that you believe it
40:58was in.
41:01Great. Turn around so that only you're
41:04looking away from me. You're looking
41:05exactly like now here is where the
41:08banister is. Put your hands back behind
41:10your back exactly how you remember they
41:12were.
41:13Okay. Now, and you are you restrained
41:16from movement? How far can you move your
41:18hands from the banister?
41:21>> They tied my upper arm.
41:24>> Yes.
41:24>> Around the banister?
41:25>> Yes.
41:26>> But my hands are bound together. So,
41:28your hands bound together and this is
41:29the arm that's the the strings wrapped
41:31around against the banister.
41:32>> Mhm.
41:33>> Okay. So, now how can you get to the
41:35phone?
41:39And how do you make the phone call?
41:44911.
41:45>> Mhm.
41:46>> And do you talk down like that?
41:48>> Yes. I'm yelling at the phone like this.
41:50>> And how can you hear?
41:53>> I turn the volume on max.
41:55>> Yes.
41:56So, that's exactly the way that you're
41:58talking to her against the railing.
42:01Mhm.
42:02>> Okay, that's good enough. Sit down. Put
42:03your sweater back on.
42:08>> You just put your sweater.
42:09>> Yeah. Yeah.
42:13You want to You want some more water?
42:16>> I'm okay.
42:17>> Okay. I really appreciate that.
42:19Obviously, it's very important to see it
42:21because we can't put you. It would be it
42:23would be absolutely physically
42:26impossible to put you back into the same
42:28position, but we just needed to see how
42:31you get the phone out and and make the
42:34call.
42:37[music]
42:42Okay. So, sit back, take a couple of
42:45deep breaths again.
42:53When you're when you're up against the
42:55railing and now you've been bound
42:58and
43:00is number two and number one still there
43:02or are they gone?
43:04>> Number one was there for a little bit.
43:06Number two ran up the stairs.
43:07>> What is number one's Is he saying
43:09anything to you? [music]
43:11He's saying you obeyed
43:16and just shut up and don't move.
43:22And he continues yelling downstairs,
43:24"Hurry up.
43:26Hurry up. It's taking too long. Hurry
43:28up."
43:35Now tell me something, okay? Which is
43:38kind of important.
43:41There's a safe in the house, is there
43:42not?
43:44[music]
43:47Safe is in a fairly visible place within
43:52within your parents' bedroom, is it not?
43:55It's
43:55>> inside their closet.
43:57>> Fairly visible accord at least from the
43:59pictures.
44:02>> Was there ever mention of wanting the
44:05combination to that safe?
44:11through any of the interaction of 1,
44:12two, and three, did they know that there
44:14was a safe in place?
44:17[music]
44:18>> I don't I I'm not aware if they knew.
44:23>> Okay.
44:24>> I didn't.
44:25>> So, you never heard any of them
44:26demanding the safe the the the um the
44:29combination to the safe?
44:35Was there anything else they were
44:36demanding in their yell yelling? It was
44:38was it was it what was the focus of what
44:40they were looking for?
44:42>> Cash.
44:43>> Cash.
44:47Okay. So, number one's talking to you.
44:50You obeyed
44:52[music] and we need to go. We need to
44:55go.
44:57[music]
44:58And where does he go from that point in
45:00time?
45:00>> He's yelling down the stairs.
45:04Is there more?
45:06And number two, I can just hear him
45:08muffling something. I I don't hear him
45:11clearly.
45:12>> Number two or number three?
45:14>> No, sorry. Number three. Number three.
45:17I'm sorry. Number three.
45:19>> Okay.
45:21>> It's just a myrr, but I can't I can't
45:24hear what he's saying.
45:26>> Okay.
45:32At this point, I start hearing my
45:34parents get up
45:36and they're moving and my mom's yelling,
45:39"Where's my daughter? I want my
45:40daughter. Where's my daughter?"
45:43And I'm yelling, "Mom, I'm here."
45:48Are they saying anything to your
45:49parents?
45:53>> I know she's yelling to you.
45:56>> Okay, she's she's yelling to you.
45:59Are they saying anything?
46:06>> Like, are they giving them directions as
46:08to where they're going?
46:11[music]
46:28or can you remember?
46:30>> All we can hear is my mom right now.
46:32>> Okay.
46:35>> So, you hear them get up and you're
46:37moving and they're moving to in what
46:38direction?
46:42>> Towards the basement.
46:44>> Okay.
46:46Are you still hearing one and two or one
46:48and three? Are you hearing all three of
46:49them?
46:51>> Number one.
46:52>> And what's he saying?
46:54>> Hurry up.
46:56Is there more?
47:06Okay.
47:08At this point, he throws my glasses.
47:14>> Then he walks down the stairs.
47:17>> So, he's still up there with you. When
47:19do you And and this So, you've had your
47:21glasses on the whole time. When does he
47:23take them off? Right before he leaves.
47:26>> Right after. So you're you're tied to
47:27the banister. You're just before he
47:30leaves to go down the stairs. Your
47:31glasses are off. You have had your
47:33glasses on the whole time prior to that.
47:35Okay.
47:40So now you hear your parents up and
47:42they're moving towards the basement. Do
47:44you What do you hear?
47:48>> Where's the rest of the money?
47:54Whose voice?
47:57>> The one with the Caribbean accent.
47:59>> Number three,
48:01who we've called number three.
48:03>> Yes.
48:03>> Where's the rest of the money?
48:05>> Is that as your as you hear your parents
48:07moving?
48:08>> I can hear them stepping down the
48:09stairs.
48:10>> Okay.
48:13Then after number one joins them after
48:17he took my glasses.
48:19>> You heard him go down the stairs as
48:21well.
48:22>> Number one then left me.
48:24>> Yes.
48:24>> And he went down the stairs and I asked
48:27my mom was still calling for me and I
48:29wanted to go and he says no.
48:36It should have taken me.
48:37>> Okay, hang on a second. [music]
48:40Hang on.
48:43So number you hear number one say no to
48:46your response to your demand of wanting
48:48to go. Do you hear the questions coming
48:50or your mom saying where is she? Where
48:52is she? Are she starting to make her Are
48:54they starting to go down to the
48:55basement? Are they on the stairs leading
48:57to the basement?
48:59Can you hear I'm I'm going to ask you to
49:02focus in because it's very difficult.
49:03I'm going to ask you to focus in. Are
49:05you hearing all of them going
49:06downstairs?
49:09Can you hear that many footsteps? That's
49:11five sets of steps.
49:15[music]
49:20Cuz if your mom is moving down to the
49:22basement with these guys and number one
49:23is walking down to join them, he would
49:25be he would be later. He he would be
49:27walking down. Does he go down to the
49:29basement or do you know?
49:34Can't tell.
49:39Here,
49:40>> Jennifer, take a Kleenex
49:43and just
49:45take a minute. [music]
50:01Okay, so we're now down in the basement.
50:04They're down in the you know your
50:05parents are down in the basement. You
50:06don't know who's down there with them.
50:09You can't tell how many people went
50:10down. You know that number one left and
50:13was heading in down in that direction,
50:15but you don't know by footsteps who's
50:18down there.
50:19>> Pay attention.
50:19>> That's all right. Whose voices can you
50:22hear now down in the basement?
50:28>> [music]
50:29>> I can just remember number three saying
50:33you lied. There's more. Where is it? You
50:36lied.
50:38You're lying.
50:45Okay. And then what do you hear?
51:09I hear a
51:14heard pop
51:17and then my mom. I heard her squeal.
51:21So, do you hear one pop or do you hear
51:22two?
51:24>> That's what I can't remember.
51:25>> Then don't it's it's one or two. Okay.
51:29And then you hear your mom squeal.
51:33And then what do you hear?
51:40Another one or two pops up.
51:42>> Do you hear any voices in between other
51:44than your mom squealing? Do you hear
51:45number three say anything? All
51:46>> I can remember is like calling for her.
51:49>> Okay.
51:53Don't apologize. Okay? This is nothing
51:56to feel to apologize to me for. This is
51:58something that you're trying to
51:59remember. So, you heard a pop. You heard
52:02your mom squeal and then you heard
52:05another.
52:07Any idea how many more pops you heard?
52:12>> I just remember that I heard one or two
52:14and then there was a slight break.
52:19And there was one more.
52:23I don't remember if it was two and then
52:24break and then one or if it was one and
52:26then break and then one. Okay. So,
52:29you're saying that you heard a total of
52:31how many pops? Guessing.
52:39>> Four or five.
52:40>> Four or five. Okay. So, you hear after
52:44those pops, popping noises,
52:47what do you hear? After the last popping
52:49noise you've heard, what do you hear?
52:51>> That's it.
52:55It's too long. Let's go from number one.
52:59>> That's it. It's too long. Let's go.
53:02Okay.
53:05I just hear a bunch of foots going.
53:12>> Does it sound like they're obviously
53:13coming? Does it sound coming up the
53:15stairs? Do you know where they leave?
53:22The official story seemed unbelievable
53:25until police spoke with the only
53:28survivor,
53:29Jennifer's father. She remembered
53:33something that detectives never
53:35expected,
53:37something that made investigators
53:39question whether Jennifer had ever been
53:41a victim at all. According to evidence
53:44presented in court, three men entered
53:47the Penn family home. Within moments,
53:50the quiet house erupted into chaos.
53:54Jennifer later told police that
53:56strangers forced their way inside. She
54:00claimed they had tied her hands behind
54:02her back, dragged her through the house,
54:04and demanded money. That observation
54:07alone wasn't proof of anything, but was
54:09the beginning of a much larger pattern.
54:12Then came another discovery. Expensive
54:14jewelry still inside the house, cash,
54:17untouched electronics left behind. If
54:21robbery had been the motive, why had
54:23nothing valuable disappeared? The scene
54:26didn't fit. It wasn't impossible. just
54:28unusual. Every answer investigators
54:31found created another question and then
54:34they interviewed the only survivor.
54:37Jennifer's [music] father
54:39and Penn had been shot in the face.
54:42Doctors weren certain he would survive.
54:44For days, he couldn't tell investigators
54:46what had happened. But once he regained
54:48consciousness, his memory became one of
54:51the most important pieces of evidence in
54:52the entire case. Something that
54:54completely changed the direction of the
54:57investigation. According to
54:59investigators, he said Jennifer had not
55:02been taken upstairs like she claimed.
55:05She had been downstairs moving freely.
55:08Detectives now had two completely
55:11different versions of the same night.
55:14One from Jennifer, another from her
55:16father.
55:16>> Text message.
55:19You go down, you do the door, you go
55:21back upstairs, and what do you do?
55:24>> Call him.
55:26>> Okay. Hey, why do you call him?
55:28>> What I usually do.
55:30>> Okay.
55:32What were you expecting to happen next?
55:36>> I honestly I don't know
55:40because he didn't tell me. He didn't let
55:42me do anything. I didn't know how he was
55:44going to do anything.
55:45>> Okay. What else did he say on the phone?
55:46Like how like he must have told you
55:48we're around the corner or something?
55:50>> No.
55:52>> Did he tell you how long?
55:54>> No.
55:55>> Okay. But it was on for that night. He
55:57had game on on the text.
55:58>> Yes.
55:59>> Okay. What did you do with those text
56:01messages?
56:06>> Okay. And the phone that you were using,
56:08were you using two phones that night?
56:10>> Yeah.
56:11>> Okay. You have to sit up cuz I can't
56:13hear you here. You were using two
56:15phones. Okay. So, the phone you were
56:17talking to with Andrew on was what
56:19phone?
56:21>> And the one you were talking to them on
56:23was what?
56:23>> The iPhone. the iPhone. Okay. And then
56:30uh did you ever talk to them on the
56:32Samsung?
56:33>> No.
56:33>> Okay.
56:35Now,
56:37um
56:39what next?
56:43Everything else that happened next.
56:46>> Okay. Now
56:49look at me, Jen.
56:52You're almost there.
56:54Okay.
56:56Most of what happened in the house
56:58happened. Okay. We know that. Okay.
57:01You gave a description of [music] a
57:03black guy with dreads. There was no
57:04black guy with dreads in there. Okay. We
57:06know that. Okay. We know that cuz your
57:10dad's not going to miss that. Okay. He
57:12gave a good description of the guy that
57:14you were with and he's not even black.
57:16So tell me about that.
57:18>> Honestly, like
57:19>> honestly, Jen, that's exactly You got to
57:21be upfront here.
57:23Because obviously you didn't want to
57:25tell us everything because there was a
57:26plan. You didn't tell us that that night
57:28either.
57:29>> Okay. So
57:30>> everything else that happened after that
57:32is
57:32>> that guy with dreadlocks was never
57:34there. Okay. So why did you say that?
57:38>> But that's what I remember.
57:39>> Okay. You can't mix that guy up with the
57:42description your dad gave. You're not
57:43even the same color.
57:46Right.
57:47>> But that's
57:48>> Tell me why you said guy with
57:49dreadlocks. Because that's who I am.
57:51>> Because there was no guy with dreadlocks
57:53there, Jen.
57:55That's the problem here. Okay.
58:00That's the problem. Okay. Now, the issue
58:03here is this. And you have to look at
58:05me. Okay? Your dad wasn't supposed to be
58:08a witness. Okay? That's where this whole
58:12thing went wrong. Okay? Your dad wasn't
58:15supposed to live. Okay? And when he did
58:18live, he was able to tell us what really
58:20happened that night. Okay. Which was in
58:24conflict with what you told us. Okay.
58:28Seriously in conflict. Okay. You had all
58:30these things about number two going
58:32upstairs and everything else. Number two
58:34was down there with a gun on your mom.
58:36Number three was down. He didn't. Okay.
58:38We know that never happened. Okay. I
58:40don't want to argue about it. Okay. I'm
58:42not going to argue.
58:42>> But I've already gone this far. You've
58:44gone this far, but that doesn't mean
58:46Okay. What? Now, let's get it all
58:48straightened out because you This is a
58:51total half and half. We're We're there
58:54again. Just like the school, just like
58:56everything else, this is how you deal
59:00with pressure. Okay. What people don't
59:03understand is when people tell
59:04half-truths, they recognize it right
59:06away. They recognize that that's not
59:09what really happened. Okay. That's not
59:11what really happened. Okay, you've spent
59:15a lifetime trying to get around people
59:18and all it has ever done is hurt you
59:20more, Jen.
59:23You missed out on an education because
59:26[music] you tried to fake it. Okay?
59:30You missed out on things that made you
59:32want to kill yourself.
59:34And you realize that and it reached a
59:37low point to the point where if you
59:40don't care about yourself, you can't
59:41care about other people.
59:44You know what I mean? You can't care for
59:46other people if you can't love yourself.
59:49And that's where this got to, Jen.
59:52And I don't blame you, but we need to
59:55understand this together, right?
59:59We need to have a resolution here.
1:00:04Okay.
1:00:11Stuck. Okay.
1:00:16Can we understand each other, Jen? Okay.
1:00:20>> You've told so much of the truth. You're
1:00:22just not telling the final portion. This
1:00:24isn't even half truths anymore. This is
1:00:27three quarters. Okay. The only thing
1:00:29missing is a quarter of the truth. Okay.
1:00:33The rest is true. Okay, we know that.
1:00:36Okay, we know you got the text.
1:00:40[music] We know that you gave the
1:00:41go-ahad.
1:00:43Okay, but the go-ahad wasn't for
1:00:46yourself. That's what's that issue here,
1:00:48Jen. So, we're going to sit down here
1:00:51and work through this together. Okay,
1:00:53we're going to work this out.
1:00:58We're going to get the full truth
1:00:59because you know what?
1:01:01The full truth is only 100%.
1:01:05Not 75%, not 90, not 99.
1:01:10100%. Everything that really happened
1:01:12that night.
1:01:15Okay, Jen.
1:01:18All right,
1:01:19let's do it together. Okay, you did.
1:01:21>> I don't understand why it doesn't add
1:01:23up.
1:01:24>> Why it doesn't add up is because that's
1:01:26not what happened. Okay.
1:01:30The truth will add up.
1:01:33Half truths don't add up. That's all
1:01:36they ever are is half truths.
1:01:39I need you to listen close to me. Okay,
1:01:41Jen.
1:01:43At this point in the investigation,
1:01:45okay?
1:01:47I'm going to be arresting you for
1:01:48murder. Okay? Also, attempted murder and
1:01:53conspiracy to commit murder. Do you
1:01:56understand that?
1:01:59Just have to tell me if you understand
1:02:01those charges. Just say yes or no. Yes.
1:02:05Okay. It is my duty to inform you that
1:02:08you have the right to retain and
1:02:10instruct counsel without delay. Do you
1:02:13understand that?
1:02:15And what does that mean to you?
1:02:19>> Yes. Okay.
1:02:22You also have the right to telephone any
1:02:24lawyer your wish. Do you understand
1:02:26that?
1:02:27Yes.
1:02:29You also have the right to free advice
1:02:31from a legal aid lawyer.
1:02:34Do you understand that?
1:02:361 800265451
1:02:40is a toll-free number. You have to
1:02:42listen here. So, can you take your hands
1:02:44off your ears? I need you to listen.
1:02:46There's a toll-free number that will put
1:02:48you in contact with a legal aid lawyer
1:02:52for free legal advice. Do you understand
1:02:55that?
1:02:57So, you can speak to a legal aid lawyer
1:02:58right now or a a lawyer of your choice
1:03:02if you like. Do you understand that? Do
1:03:06you wish to call a lawyer now?
1:03:10>> Yes.
1:03:12More than 3 years after the shooting,
1:03:14the investigation entered its final
1:03:16stage, the courtroom. For weeks, [music]
1:03:19every piece of evidence collected by
1:03:21investigators will be examined. Every
1:03:23eyewitness questioned. On December 13th,
1:03:262014, [music] the verdict was delivered.
1:03:30Jennifer Pan, Daniel Wong, Lenford,
1:03:32Crawford, and Eric Carti were all found
1:03:35guilty of firstdegree murder in the
1:03:37death of Beach Han, an attempted murder
1:03:41in the shooting of Hi Pan [music] Pan.
1:03:44The jury accepted the prosecution's case
1:03:47that the attacker had been planned. Each
1:03:50received a sentence of life with parole
1:03:53eligibility after 25 years under
1:03:55Canadian law. For investigators, it
1:03:59marks the end of a year's long case.

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