Jay Smith — 10 Big Questions About the Qur’an Nobody Wants to Answer — Transcript
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- 0:01Look at the Quran itself. Now, I don't
- 0:04believe this, by the way, folks. I don't
- 0:05believe any of these Qurans are seventh
- 0:07century. Why? Well, wait till we get to
- 0:09the Quran. You'll see why. Nonetheless,
- 0:11Muslims claim they're from the seventh
- 0:12century. When you look at the Quran
- 0:14internally, you notice there are only
- 0:16four references to Mhm., not Muhammad,
- 0:18but Muhammad on the earliest
- 0:20manuscripts.
- 0:22Fascinating. Moses is found 136 times.
- 0:26Jesus is found 93 times. Abraham is
- 0:28found 79 times. Pharaoh is found 74
- 0:32times. Suggesting that Muhammmed was not
- 0:35very popular.
- 0:37And when you look at those four times,
- 0:38there it is in chapter 3:14. In chapter
- 0:4133:40, in chapter 47:2, and in chapter
- 0:4448:29, in every case, in every case,
- 0:48this is Jesus Christ.
- 0:50This Mhmed is the Messiah. Just read the
- 0:54references. As you can see when you take
- 0:55the vowels out and go back to Mhm. it is
- 0:58the Mad that we should expect to find in
- 1:00the seventh and 8th century. None of
- 1:02them refer to a person called Muhammad
- 1:04who lived in the hij in Arabia but the
- 1:06Mm. They all refer to the Mm. They most
- 1:09likely refer instead to the blessed one
- 1:11or the anointed one or the praised one
- 1:13as we have noted. It's a title. That is
- 1:16the word Mhmmed means. And who could
- 1:18very well therefore be Jesus Christ.
- 1:21If this is not the prophet from Mecca at
- 1:23all, then Muslims cannot use the Quran
- 1:25to support Muhammad, the prophet's
- 1:27existence in the seventh century and one
- 1:29of the foundations of Islam begins to
- 1:33fall. Well, what about the Dome of the
- 1:35Rock? I've talked about the Dogamont
- 1:36earlier and you've heard me say that
- 1:38there's the Dome of the Rock. Notice
- 1:39where the two arrow green arrows are.
- 1:42That that's the inner amulatory. That's
- 1:44the only original part of the dome. It
- 1:47has been destroyed and rebuilt 11 times.
- 1:49That's the only part that was actually
- 1:51created in 691. And that's where the
- 1:54inscriptions are. And when you read the
- 1:55inscriptions, they're all attacks
- 1:57against Jesus Christ. That's where the
- 1:59shahada first begins to appear. And that
- 2:01is all referring that the praise one is
- 2:04not is nothing more than the messenger
- 2:07of God, the blessed one, who could be
- 2:09Jesus. The Quranic verses in these
- 2:11inscriptions are not the same as that
- 2:13which we have in the Quran today, though
- 2:14they're copied into the Quran later on
- 2:16and are thus possibly precursors to the
- 2:19Quranic verses which were written later
- 2:21and then changed to refer to the prophet
- 2:23himself. Conclusion, if correct, that
- 2:25Muslims cannot use the Dome of the Rock
- 2:28to support Ma Muhammad's existence in
- 2:30the seventh century either. And another
- 2:32foundational pillar of Islam begins to
- 2:35fall even further. Now, hold on a
- 2:37minute. Muslims will come back and say,
- 2:39"Yes, but there are lots of ris
- 2:40references to this MMA, this Muhammad
- 2:44in the seventh century. So, let's look
- 2:46at them." No, there are not. The many
- 2:49that they come up with have no reference
- 2:51to Muhammad in any of them. There are
- 2:53only five that have the word Muhammad in
- 2:56them. Not Muhammad, but Muhammmed. Why?
- 2:59Because there's no vowels that early. So
- 3:01when you hear that, Muslims are imposing
- 3:03that onto the text and they don't
- 3:04realize that Arabic does not accommodate
- 3:07Muhammad. Not that early.
- 3:10So let's look at those five.
- 3:13Thomas the Prespirator in 634 writing,
- 3:16he talks about a battle between the
- 3:17Romans and the Tay Dum Mahm. Now notice
- 3:21it's Mm with a T. This is the Persian
- 3:23spelling for the praise one. And he
- 3:26refers to that. It's in Gaza. This is a
- 3:29Palavi, the Tay. They are the Lmeds that
- 3:32are in what is today northern Iraq in of
- 3:34what is today Mosul in TikT fighting in
- 3:36Gaza way over to the west. So therefore,
- 3:38this cannot be the Muhammad of Islam
- 3:40because it's way up to the north and way
- 3:42too far to the west. He's over 1,00
- 3:44to,200 miles too far to the north. It
- 3:47cannot be the Mad or of of Islam. 636
- 3:52you have a fly leaf which talks about
- 3:53the Arabs of Muhammmed killed many
- 3:56Syrians in Yamok in Gabbatha. Look where
- 3:58Yarmmok is. That's way up in Jordan in
- 4:01Syria. Muhammad never went to Yarmmuk.
- 4:04Way too [clears throat] farther north.
- 4:05So it's another praised one. It's more
- 4:08likely reference to someone who used
- 4:09that title to a grandise himself. In
- 4:12660, Sabas refers to an Ishelite called
- 4:16Mm who with 12,000 Israelites attacks
- 4:19the Byzantines. There is no record of
- 4:22any Arabs or less even 12,000 of them
- 4:25partnering with Jews any time in the 7th
- 4:27century invading Byzantium in the
- 4:29seventh century. This is not only his
- 4:31and not only not historical, it's
- 4:34fraudulent from its very core. So we can
- 4:36throw that one out. The fourth one is
- 4:39probably a little better. 690. We're now
- 4:41at the end of the 7th century. By this
- 4:43time the Dome of the Rock is well built.
- 4:45This is the time the Dome of the Rock is
- 4:46built. This is a time the coins are
- 4:48being introduced with the name Mahmud on
- 4:50it. And John of Bara talks about this
- 4:52Mahmud, this teacher, leader of the
- 4:53Arabs. This is the first real good
- 4:56reference. But still, he talks about him
- 4:58way up in the north, up in what is today
- 5:00Iraq. That's a thousand miles too far
- 5:02north. And then we get John of Damascus.
- 5:05Now I love John of Damascus because John
- 5:07of Damascus is right there in the courts
- 5:10of Abdul Malik. He is there in Damascus.
- 5:12He is part of the courts of Abdul Malik.
- 5:15So he is watching it happen right there.
- 5:17He's an eyewitness to what is going on.
- 5:19He then retires in 7:30 and goes to a
- 5:22monastery and writes his most famous
- 5:25book. But look at the title of the book,
- 5:29The Heresy of the Ishelites.
- 5:32Why don't we read that title? Who are
- 5:35the Ishelites? The Ishalites are the
- 5:38Arabs, the Nabotian Arabs who are from
- 5:40Jordan. They are the ones that trace the
- 5:43lineage back to Abraham through Ishmael.
- 5:46The Jews and the Christians also go to
- 5:48Abraham through Isaac. The IshRaelites
- 5:51are also known as Hagarin. And notice
- 5:53all these Arabs referred to themselves
- 5:55in five different words. There are five
- 5:58different words they use. They use
- 5:59Ishelites because they're in the line of
- 6:01Ishmael. They use Hagarin because
- 6:03they're in the line of Hagar. They use
- 6:05MR, which means people of the Hagarines,
- 6:07people of Hagar. They use this the words
- 6:10mush um um not mushurikun um
- 6:15muajidum the people who go on a hij
- 6:19people who go on an exodus they're
- 6:20nomadic they're always moving to place
- 6:22to place and they name themselves well
- 6:24they don't name themselves they're
- 6:25referred to as sorasans no reference to
- 6:28any people called Muslims these are all
- 6:31people in the line of Ishmail they're in
- 6:32the line of Hagar and they're proud of
- 6:34their lineage but here's the problem
- 6:36they now control the deafit. They are
- 6:39now in Damascus. They control from Spain
- 6:42all the way to India, from Turkey all
- 6:45the way to Yemen. They are the
- 6:47superpower of the day. Only the
- 6:48Byzantines are greater. The Byzantines
- 6:51are Christians. The Jews are try in
- 6:53charge of Jerusalem. But they control
- 6:54Jerusalem, right?
- 6:57And here's the difficulty. The Jews and
- 6:59the Christians have a prophetic line,
- 7:01right? Through Isaac. We know that
- 7:03prophetic line. We know exactly where
- 7:05all the prophets come from.
- 7:07The Jews and the Christians have a
- 7:09revelation. The Old and New Testament.
- 7:11The Ishraelites have no prophetic line.
- 7:14There's no one after Ishmael. Who's
- 7:16comes after Ishmael? Nobody. We don't
- 7:18know of anybody.
- 7:21The Jews, the Ishelites and the
- 7:22Helegarines have no revelation. What
- 7:25revelation do they have? So now you are
- 7:28in charge of the holy place. You were in
- 7:30charge of Jerusalem. You control all
- 7:32this land. And right north of you is
- 7:35your greatest threat. the Christian
- 7:37Byzantines. So what do you do? You go
- 7:40and you build the Dome of the Rock right
- 7:42in the holy place of Jews and
- 7:44Christians. And what do you do? You
- 7:47write these inscriptions attacking
- 7:49Jesus, attacking his divinity, attacking
- 7:51the Trinity. You're an Israelite. And
- 7:54what do you do next? You confront and
- 7:56look where the Dome of the Rock is
- 7:58built. Right where the Temple Mount is,
- 7:59right where the Messiah, where the
- 8:00Mahmud is going to return. And it's
- 8:02above looking down on the church of the
- 8:04suppler where all the Christians come
- 8:05for pilgrimage. It's looking down on the
- 8:07Christians. It's looking down on the
- 8:09Jews. And now you are an ishelite. What
- 8:11do you do? You need to therefore create
- 8:13your own prophetic line. And if you're
- 8:15going to create a prophetic line, who do
- 8:16you think you're going to use? You're
- 8:19going to use the Mad cuz everybody's
- 8:21waiting for the Mad, right? The Jews are
- 8:24waiting for the Mad. They put that name
- 8:25before every one of their exelarks. The
- 8:27Christians are waiting for the Mmud to
- 8:29return a second time. So you say we've
- 8:31got the Mahmud, but you put three vowels
- 8:34above his name, Muhammad.
- 8:38So here comes John of Damascus in 7:30,
- 8:41right? He comes and he writes this great
- 8:43reference. He writes about this and he
- 8:45says, "Here is this MD that you're
- 8:47talking about." So he's in he's well
- 8:49into the 8th century now. And he then he
- 8:51looks and says, "This Muhammmed has
- 8:53ludicrous doctrines." And then he starts
- 8:55naming them off. He talks about these
- 8:56books that this Muhammmed has created.
- 8:58He refers to this book called the cow.
- 9:01That's now in chapter two of the Quran.
- 9:03He talks about the book called the
- 9:04women. That's in chapter four of the
- 9:06Quran. He talks about the book called
- 9:07the table. That's in chapter five of the
- 9:09Quran. And then he talks the book called
- 9:10the camel. That's capital. That's
- 9:12chapter zero. There is no book called
- 9:14the camel in the Quran.
- 9:18But I thought there was only one Quran.
- 9:20I thought the Quran was complete by
- 9:227:30. But certainly by se by 652, right?
- 9:25We're in 7:30. We're well into the 8th
- 9:27century and there are four different
- 9:29books. All of which then are in tick in
- 9:32put into the Quran in chapter 2, chapter
- 9:344, chapter 5, and then a chapter that
- 9:36doesn't even exist. This is not the
- 9:38Quran that we have today.
- 9:40Are you starting to see what's going on,
- 9:42folks?
- 9:44You have to have a prophet. Once you
- 9:45introduce this prophet, he has to have a
- 9:48book.
- 9:49Now, you're starting to realize where
- 9:51we're going with all of this
- 9:54conclusion. every reference to Muhammad
- 9:57or Mahmud in the seventh century places
- 9:59have been in Gaza or Jerusalem or
- 10:01Damascus or in Ha which are all situated
- 10:04in Jordan and in Syria and Iraq all far
- 10:07to the north and probably refer to
- 10:09another MM praised one probably Jesus
- 10:13Christ here are the conclusions we won't
- 10:14go through them again he's already done
- 10:16through I just want to end with this one
- 10:18these coins and inscriptions refer to
- 10:20the Christian and Jewish MMs who are
- 10:22either the Messiah yet to come That's
- 10:24the Jews for the first time or the
- 10:27Messiah yet to come a second time.
- 10:29That's the Christians. It is that
- 10:31Muhammmed who is then appropriated by
- 10:33the 7th century Ishmonalite Arabs, the
- 10:36Umiads, as their prophet Muhammmed who
- 10:38then is introduced as Muhammad by the
- 10:418th to 9th century Abbasids as the
- 10:44fulfillment of the other two. Now, we're
- 10:47going to get into the Quran. We're going
- 10:48to end with this. You ready? Here we go.
- 10:51What about the Quran then? Once you got
- 10:54a man, once you got a prophet, you've
- 10:56got to have a book. You've got to create
- 11:00a book.
- 11:02So what do the Muslims claim about their
- 11:04book? This is what the Muslims claim.
- 11:07The Quran is uncreated. That has always
- 11:09existed. It has never been created. It
- 11:12is the uncreated Quran. Why do we know
- 11:13that? Because if chapter 85:22 says that
- 11:16it's already internal to the Quran. They
- 11:18also say the Quran was sent down to a
- 11:20man named Muhammad between 610 and 632.
- 11:22that 22-year period that the Quran was
- 11:25completed by um man in 652 that's mid7th
- 11:28century and that the Quran has unchanged
- 11:31in the last 1400 years not one word not
- 11:34one letter has changed now look at those
- 11:36four letter words in blue uncreated sent
- 11:39down completed unchanged can you
- 11:42remember those four words
- 11:44those are the four claims Muslims make
- 11:46about the Quran every Muslim whether
- 11:48they are radical or nominal may not the
- 11:50liberals but the radicals and the
- 11:51nominals will all make those claims. 99%
- 11:54of all Muslims make those four claims
- 11:56about the Quran.
- 11:58Memorize those four words. We're going
- 12:00to come back to them. So, why do they
- 12:02make these claims? Because folks don't
- 12:03blame them. They're in the Quran
- 12:05themselves. It's the Quran that makes
- 12:07those four claims. Eternality is found
- 12:09in chapter 85 21 and 22 as far as not
- 12:13one word has been changed. That's in
- 12:15chapter 10:15 and in chapter 18 27. And
- 12:18the reason that none can change his
- 12:21words or his letters is because Allah
- 12:23himself guards it in chapter 15:9. It
- 12:26says that that Allah guards it. That's
- 12:27why no man can change what is eternal,
- 12:30what God has not created because it's
- 12:32uncreated. So what is our agreement
- 12:34tonight? Well, I cannot critique sent
- 12:36down or uncreated because I'm not there
- 12:38in the seventh century. But I can
- 12:40critique the second two. I can't
- 12:42critique number one and two, but I can
- 12:44uh critique three and four. Thus, what I
- 12:46would want to find from any Muslim that
- 12:48wants to engage me in a debate, they
- 12:50then have to provide for me one Quranic
- 12:52manuscript that's from the mid7th
- 12:55century, not from one that's after
- 12:56because they're the ones that claimed it
- 12:58was finished by 652 that um man was the
- 13:00one that created the Quran and wrote it
- 13:02down in its written form. Therefore, it
- 13:04must be 114 suras unchanged. It must
- 13:08look just like this Quran that I have in
- 13:09my hand today. Must be just like this
- 13:12114 surah. Not one word, not one letter
- 13:14that's different because that's their
- 13:16claim. Not my claim. That's their claim.
- 13:19Now, what do they say? This is what they
- 13:20say. According to what Al Buhari says,
- 13:23and he is the one that tells us how the
- 13:24Quran was put together. He said that
- 13:26Muhammad died in 632. The Quran had not
- 13:28yet been
- 13:34okay
- 13:36just told me about my flight. So it says
- 13:39that if the um man the Quran had not
- 13:42been written down when he died in 632 it
- 13:45was written down by the time of Utman
- 13:47the the what they call the Qureshi Quran
- 13:50in 652. So that's the mid7th century.
- 13:53Now when he wrote that down and had it
- 13:55written down by Zimabid his secretary he
- 13:58then sent it to five cities. Those are
- 14:00the five cities you see up there. Let me
- 14:02get my clicker out here. And they are
- 14:04Mecca, Medina, Basra, Kufa, and
- 14:07Damascus. There they are over here.
- 14:09Mecca, Medina, Basra, Kufa, and
- 14:11Damascus. So, two in what is today
- 14:14Arabia, two in what is today Iraq, and
- 14:17one in what is today Syria. Those were
- 14:19sent to those five cities to preserve
- 14:22them so that nobody would change them
- 14:24because they didn't want to be any
- 14:25changes. These were the original ones.
- 14:28Now, here's what's interesting.
- 14:29According to the Islamic traditions, not
- 14:31me, according to the standard Islamic
- 14:33narrative, a new crown starts to appear
- 14:35in Damascus now written by a man named
- 14:37Uba Ibn Kob and it has 116 suras. So it
- 14:41has two more suras than what the Quran
- 14:43has today. Then suddenly another one
- 14:45appears in Bhagdat written by Ib Masud
- 14:48and it has 110 suras. That's four less
- 14:51than the Quran we have today. Then a
- 14:53third one appears in Basa written by Ibn
- 14:55Musa. It has 114 suras. But when you
- 14:58look at these three Qurans, when you
- 14:59look at the Islamic traditions, when you
- 15:01look and see what they say about these
- 15:03Qurans, there are 15,000 differences
- 15:07between those three Qurans and the Quran
- 15:09I have in my hand right here. 15,000
- 15:12differences. It's not me saying this.
- 15:13The Islamic traditions tell me this. So
- 15:16that's already within the seventh
- 15:18century, you're seeing huge amount of
- 15:20changes. But here's what I want to ask
- 15:22you. Where is Uba Ibn Kab's Quran?
- 15:24Where's Ib Masoud's Quran? Where is Ib
- 15:27Musa's Quran? Where are the five copies
- 15:29that were sent to those five cities?
- 15:30Show me one.
- 15:33Not one Quran exists today from the
- 15:36seventh century. Not one.
- 15:38No Muslims can come up with them. I've
- 15:40asked this for 40 years. The European
- 15:43scholars, we are all asking if these are
- 15:45from the seventh century, show me one.
- 15:47Listen, this should be easy for Muslims
- 15:49to reveal. Why? Because we can go back
- 15:51to the Siniaticus from the 4th century.
- 15:53You can go to the Alexandrinus from the
- 15:55fifth century. You can go to the
- 15:56Vaticanis which is in the 4th century.
- 15:58We have the entire New Testament from
- 16:00the fourth and fifth century. That's two
- 16:02to 300 years earlier. If we can provide
- 16:04three metropolitan cotices from the
- 16:06first fourth and fifth century, why
- 16:08can't they come up with one Quran of the
- 16:10five from the seventh century? Not one.
- 16:16Thank God for my Bible. Thank God we
- 16:19have preserved our manuscripts.
- 16:22Thank God. Listen, not just those three
- 16:25metropolitan cotices. By the sixth
- 16:27century, we have 65 either partial or
- 16:30complete New Testaments. By the sixth
- 16:32century, if you want to talk about what
- 16:34we have in our hands today, we have
- 16:358,500 New Testament manuscripts. We have
- 16:3810,000 Latin Vulgates. We have 19,000 in
- 16:4111 different languages.
- 16:44If we had want to change any one of
- 16:46them, we would have to go back to that's
- 16:4824,000 manuscripts. We'd have to go back
- 16:50to Oh, excuse me. all 24,000 manuscripts
- 16:53in all 11 languages. Change every one of
- 16:55them so they agree. To me, that's a
- 16:58greater miracle. The fact that we don't
- 17:01have to change one of them shows how
- 17:04amazing our Bible is. We don't have this
- 17:07problem. This is only 1400 years ago and
- 17:10they can't even come up with one
- 17:11manuscript. Now look at those five
- 17:13cities. Mecca, Medina, Basra, Kufa, and
- 17:16Damascus. They have been controlled by
- 17:18Muslims for 1400 years. There has been
- 17:21no floods. There have been no wars. I
- 17:24don't know of any fires. So why aren't
- 17:26they there today?
- 17:28Either this is complete ineptitude
- 17:31or they never existed.
- 17:34I choose the latter.
- 17:39Now note there were at least five Qurans
- 17:43in the seventh century from Medina,
- 17:44Mecca, Basra, Kufa, and Damascus.
- 17:47conclusion. We don't even have one of
- 17:49them today. In fact, all we have are six
- 17:52of the earliest extent Quranic
- 17:53manuscripts. So, let's look at them.
- 17:55These are the six earliest Qurans we
- 17:57have in existence today. Three of them I
- 17:59have in my in my office. Faximiles of
- 18:02them of full-size faximiles of them in
- 18:04my office. Not the originals obviously.
- 18:07That's [clears throat] the top copy
- 18:08there. The toe copy is there in
- 18:11Istanbul. That one is about 99% of the
- 18:14Quran. It is dated to the late late or
- 18:17middle to late 8th century. It's not a
- 18:20seventh century Quran. It's the best
- 18:21Quran they have because it is probably
- 18:23the closest to what we have today. But
- 18:26it has 2,270
- 18:28manuscript variants. That means letters,
- 18:31words, and phrases in that Quran that do
- 18:33not parallel the Quran we have today.
- 18:35And yet that's the best they've got.
- 18:39Then you have the Samaran manuscript
- 18:40over here that's in Tashk in Usbekistan.
- 18:43That one there only goes up to surah 43.
- 18:46It only goes up to the for uh the 43rd
- 18:48surah. That means half the Quran is
- 18:50missing. And even amongst the 43 suras
- 18:52that you see there, 16 of them don't
- 18:54even exist. There's only one surah that
- 18:56is complete. And all the others have
- 18:59manuscarian have hundreds of
- 19:00manuscarians. In fact, so many
- 19:02manuscarians, it has lazy Arabic.
- 19:05Whoever wrote it didn't know Arabic very
- 19:06well. So most Muslim scholars say,
- 19:08"Don't even read it. It's an
- 19:09embarrassment.
- 19:12Then you have the Mel manuscript which
- 19:14is on the left there. That's right there
- 19:15in the British Library the in the
- 19:18Ribbach Gallery. That one is also goes
- 19:20up to 43 sur 43. So it's only half the
- 19:23Quran. What's interesting about it it is
- 19:26uh written in a around the late 8th
- 19:29century. The one before that the Samaran
- 19:31is the mid 8th century. This one is the
- 19:33late 8th century. This one here. And
- 19:35notice it has a slanted text. So it is
- 19:37considered to be one of the earliest
- 19:38manuscript but it only it's missing much
- 19:41of the Quran. It's missing half of the
- 19:43Quran to be exact with hundreds of
- 19:45manuscript variants. And then you have
- 19:46the Petropolitanus which is in the
- 19:48biblotech national in there in
- 19:50France. And when you look at that it is
- 19:52also a slanted text like the one over
- 19:54there the Mayel text. It only has 23% of
- 19:57the Quran. And within the 23% there are
- 20:0093 manuscript variants. That means words
- 20:02or phrase that are different in that
- 20:04manuscript from the Quran we have today.
- 20:07Then we go to the next page and you see
- 20:09the Husini manuscript. The Husini
- 20:11manuscript you see on the left there.
- 20:16It's in Cairo in Egypt. It's a
- 20:18monumental text. Take a look at it. It's
- 20:20huge. It's massive. It is from the 9th
- 20:23century. It has a lot of coverings. You
- 20:26can't really see it. We're going to show
- 20:27you some other pages later on. covering
- 20:29after covering after covering where they
- 20:30have manuscript they have censored the
- 20:32text hundreds of them there but the most
- 20:35exciting Quran is this one here on the
- 20:37right this is the Sana manuscript
- 20:38discovered in 1975
- 20:41it if you look carefully you will notice
- 20:42that there's surah 19 there and then it
- 20:44jumps to surah 22 what happened to surah
- 20:4720 and 21
- 20:49where that yellow mark is you that's a
- 20:52good question I'm glad you asked if you
- 20:54look over here you'll see 20 begins on
- 20:56this side there's 20. But they noticed
- 20:59are you notice there are two completely
- 21:01different scripts between the two pages.
- 21:03This is a completely different script.
- 21:05There's about 60 to 70 years between
- 21:07those two pages.
- 21:09What's more, do you see an orange mark?
- 21:10See where all the orange marks are
- 21:12there? Every time you see an orange
- 21:14mark, that is a manuscript variance.
- 21:16There is over a thousand of these words
- 21:19and phrases that's no longer in our
- 21:21Quran today.
- 21:23Proving that this is one of the earliest
- 21:25manuscript. In fact, this is considered
- 21:26to be probably the earliest manuscript
- 21:29dated to 705, early 8th century. And
- 21:33yet, it is full of manuscript variants.
- 21:36Summary of these manuscripts, when we
- 21:39look at the six earliest Quranic
- 21:41manuscripts, we find that none of them
- 21:42are from the 7th century. None of them
- 21:44are complete. None of them completely
- 21:46agree with each other. None of them
- 21:48completely agree with the current 1924
- 21:50Huffs text. That's this book I have in
- 21:51my hand today. All of them have hundreds
- 21:53and even thousands of subsequent
- 21:55manuscript variants. So when was the
- 21:57complete first complete Quran? Could we
- 22:00have recently discovered on an older
- 22:01example? What about this one here? The
- 22:04sun. When you look at the sun and you
- 22:06put it into under ultraviolet light, you
- 22:08notice that there's an under layer.
- 22:10That's what a palmus is. That means it
- 22:12was written on animal skin and then it
- 22:14was washed off and written over top. And
- 22:17when you write it over top, the what you
- 22:19wash off disappears. But hundreds of
- 22:21years later the ink starts to bleed
- 22:23through. So you can see the bleeding
- 22:25through right there. So they put it
- 22:27under ultraviolet light and this is what
- 22:29they have found that the under layer is
- 22:31from the last two decades of the seventh
- 22:34century. This is the by far the earliest
- 22:36part of the Quran. But what was
- 22:38interesting when you look at the ver the
- 22:40lower text there are 63 verses in that
- 22:42lower text from the late 7th century.
- 22:45There are 70 variants between the upper
- 22:47and lower text. 25 times there are verbs
- 22:50and nouns and articles and participles
- 22:52and junctions that are different. 29
- 22:54times there are isolated letters,
- 22:55prepositions and expressions that are
- 22:57different between the two layers. 16
- 22:59times there are entire sentences some
- 23:02overlap within the same verses. Asmaali
- 23:05looked at this and she was as a Muslim
- 23:06said well this is nothing more than a
- 23:08school text. What she was saying is
- 23:10these are students who were practicing
- 23:12and therefore they made all these
- 23:13mistakes. So the teacher washed it off
- 23:15and wrote over top. No, you don't give
- 23:17animal skins to students. They're highly
- 23:20expensive. Only scholars would ever be
- 23:23able to get to animal skins because you
- 23:25have to cure the animals. These are the
- 23:27most expensive writing material. You
- 23:28give them papyrus, you don't give them
- 23:30vellum, and you don't give them
- 23:31parchments. These are obviously done by
- 23:34scholars. So, Dr. Elizabeth Quinn who
- 23:36has done the most work on the on the
- 23:38manuscript said that these are example
- 23:41of a nent Quran the lower layer with
- 23:43corrections then washed off and
- 23:45rewritten in 705 that's why you see an
- 23:48evolution in the Quranic text by the
- 23:51early 8th century some say they there
- 23:54might be one even older Quran and this
- 23:56is the what we call the Birmingham Quran
- 23:58you heard about this in 2015 when they
- 24:01discovered these two folios now folks
- 24:03that's not a whole Quran that's just two
- 24:05pages front and back. When you look at
- 24:07it, you notice it's just two pages front
- 24:09and back. It's only 63 verses. There are
- 24:126,236 verses in the Quran. So, that's
- 24:14not the whole Quran. Uh 63 verses even
- 24:17within the three suras that it rec
- 24:20contains. There are 343 verses in those
- 24:22three chapters. That's not nearly the
- 24:25full chapters. What's more, they're not
- 24:27even the same sequence that's in the
- 24:28Quran that we have today. What's
- 24:30interesting is when you read those three
- 24:32those two pages, read what's in them.
- 24:35These are stories that are nothing to do
- 24:37with the Quran. In chapter 18 17-31, it
- 24:41talks about the seven sleepers of
- 24:43Ephesus. This is a Christian legend
- 24:44written by Metaphyses in 521 AD. This is
- 24:48precoronic, pre-Islamic. Yes, you can
- 24:51see this was written long before the
- 24:53Quran came into existence. So 1991 to98
- 24:56is a Syriak Christian and rabbitic
- 24:58apocryphal account by of the proto
- 25:00evangelium of James written in 145 AD.
- 25:04This is from the 2 century. And then
- 25:06surah 20 verse 1-40 is the bible story
- 25:09of Moses written in 1400 BC. Conclusion:
- 25:12These folios front and back are
- 25:15pre-Qoronic, pre- Muhammad, and thus
- 25:17pre-Islamic, written by Christian, Jews,
- 25:19and secular Arab writers, and then
- 25:21simply borrowed by the later Muslims for
- 25:23their own revelation in the 8th to 10th
- 25:25century. Folks, if you take a book and
- 25:28you have to come up with a book real
- 25:30quickly because you now have a prophet,
- 25:31where do you think you get your book
- 25:33from? You borrow it, do you not? You go
- 25:37to Christian sectarian writings. You go
- 25:39to Jew Jewish apocrypha writings. You go
- 25:41to Zorastian writings and you just
- 25:43amalgamate and put them into a text.
- 25:45Now, do you realize when you read the
- 25:47Quran, there's no chronology in the
- 25:49Quran. Have you noticed? Those of you
- 25:51who have read it, stories don't begin,
- 25:53stories don't end. It jumps all over the
- 25:55placeoom.
- 25:57Why? Because that's what you do when you
- 25:59borrow.
- 26:00And if you borrow something, they have
- 26:02to exist before what you borrowed. Am I
- 26:04correct? So, of course, there's Arabic
- 26:06writing. There's lots of Arabic writing.
- 26:08There's no dots and vows in it. These
- 26:10are what we're going to find out exactly
- 26:12what the Quran is full of. But hold on,
- 26:14that's yet to come. Now, my good friend
- 26:17Dr. Dan Brewbaker has probably done one
- 26:19of the most devastating work. Back in
- 26:222010, he decided to do his doctorate on
- 26:25the manuscripts himself. He started, he
- 26:26was the first one to actually go to the
- 26:28manuscripts to all these six plus
- 26:30another four manuscripts, all the
- 26:32earliest manuscripts and filmed every
- 26:34page looking for manuscript variants.
- 26:37Now these are consonental variants.
- 26:41That means these are the dot these are
- 26:44not the vowels. These have nothing to do
- 26:45with the dots. These are the consonants.
- 26:4816 consonants that existed in Arabic. So
- 26:51he started taking pictures. And what he
- 26:53was looking for, he was looking for just
- 26:55maybe one error, one difference between
- 26:57one manuscript and another. By the time
- 27:00he finished his doctorate in 2014,
- 27:03he had found over 800 variants.
- 27:07800 variants. He wrote his doctorate,
- 27:10passed his doctor of flying colors, sent
- 27:12me his manuscript and I debated Dr.
- 27:15Shabiri, the world's leading debater in
- 27:172014 in Canada on those six manuscript
- 27:20just looking at his material. Have any
- 27:22of you seen that debate? That debate
- 27:26over two million people have watched. We
- 27:29know over a hundred Muslims that have
- 27:30come to Jesus Christ because of that one
- 27:32debate because that debate destroyed the
- 27:36Quran 10 years ago using his research.
- 27:39Now that was in 2014. Dr. Shabid Ali had
- 27:42no response. He had never looked at
- 27:45these manuscripts. He had no idea what
- 27:47he was up against. His only response
- 27:50was, "Who cares about what you have
- 27:52found? Who cares if they're not
- 27:54complete? Who cares if they don't agree
- 27:56with each other?" I look at the Quran
- 27:58today. When you look at these set of
- 27:59verses and you look at these set of
- 28:00verses, you get the number 19. When you
- 28:02look at these verses and these verses,
- 28:04you get the number 19. When you look at
- 28:06these words and these words, you get 19.
- 28:071919 19. He talked about the miracle of
- 28:09the number 19. I went back after the
- 28:12debate and asked and looked to see how
- 28:13much time he had taken to to regail us
- 28:16on the miracle of the number 19. He took
- 28:18a lack exactly 19 minutes. That was the
- 28:22miracle.
- 28:24He had no idea what he was talking
- 28:26about. I said, 'What are you referring
- 28:28to? What set of verses? None of these
- 28:31are the same. What set of verses are?
- 28:34There's no versification in any of these
- 28:35manuscripts.
- 28:37What manuscript are you referring to?
- 28:39What Quran are you referring to? There's
- 28:41no even today's Quran, the verses are
- 28:43not the same.
- 28:45What are you referring to? It took me 30
- 28:48minutes for him to finally admit what he
- 28:50was talking about.
- 28:52He was talking about this Quran. This is
- 28:55the 1924 Huffs Quran. This is the Quran
- 28:59that's used all over the world today and
- 29:00it's only 100 years old. It was chosen
- 29:03in Cairo by one man, Muhammad Al-Husani
- 29:06Al-Had, as the official Quran. This is
- 29:09the one that has the verses he's talking
- 29:11about.
- 29:13That's only 100 years old.
- 29:15By the end of that debate, he had no
- 29:17rebuttal. Within two months, he had to
- 29:19write nine pages because the Muslims
- 29:21wereounding him all over the world,
- 29:22saying, "How did you lose that debate?
- 29:24How come you couldn't come up with
- 29:25something better than that? He had to
- 29:26write a rebuttal and in his nine pages
- 29:28he kept on talking about the miracle of
- 29:30the number 19. What a waste of time. Dr.
- 29:34Shabidali will not debate me anymore
- 29:36because of that debate 10 years ago. Can
- 29:38you see how this just shuts down the
- 29:40Quran? When you look at the manuscripts,
- 29:42take a look at what he has found. If you
- 29:43look here, you can see here you can see
- 29:46that there these are insertion. There's
- 29:48a word that's inserted above the line.
- 29:49See how it's inserted there. Here's
- 29:51another one. These are erasers. See how
- 29:53they've erased there? They've erased
- 29:54there. They've erased there. We have no
- 29:56idea what the word was before. But now
- 29:57when they have erased it, notice what
- 29:59they have done. Every time they've
- 30:00inserted a word there or assert a
- 30:02letter, every time they have erased it,
- 30:04what they've left behind now supports
- 30:07this book right here.
- 30:09Supports the Huffs text from 1924.
- 30:14Then they have erases overwritten. So
- 30:16they've erased and they've just
- 30:17overwritten over top. You can tell it's
- 30:18two different words. Can you notice
- 30:20that? Even not the same number of
- 30:21letters. Here they did it in the red
- 30:23ink. They didn't even care if you didn't
- 30:24noticed it or not.
- 30:26What was left over now supports the
- 30:28Huff's text. And then they overwrote.
- 30:30Here they overwrote sometimes above the
- 30:32line, sometimes different color. Here
- 30:33they overwrote an entire two entire two
- 30:36sentences. They didn't care if you could
- 30:39see it or not. They were not worried
- 30:40about that because they didn't they
- 30:41didn't think anybody would look for
- 30:42this. Well, Dan Brewaker found this.
- 30:47And then most devastating are these
- 30:49selective coverings. See, there's a
- 30:50covering there. There's a covering
- 30:51there. Do you see that? There's a
- 30:52covering there. 1 2 3 4 5 6 eight
- 30:55coverings on just that one page. What's
- 30:57left over just look like chicken
- 30:59scratches. But what's left over now
- 31:02supports the Huff's text. This is
- 31:04censorship at its greatest. They're
- 31:07censoring the text to standardize it to
- 31:10fit that text from 1924.
- 31:14Here you can see another cover. Another
- 31:15cover. Another cover. Look at that.
- 31:17Those are coverings. And sometimes they
- 31:19covered and they wrote over top. So
- 31:21there they've covered it and they wrote
- 31:22over top. There they've covered it and
- 31:23written over top. There you can see
- 31:25there they've covered not written over
- 31:26anything. But there you can see where
- 31:27they've covered it and there they've
- 31:28covered over. This is censorship.
- 31:31Standardization of a text. And sometimes
- 31:34they just put a patch over. He thought
- 31:36maybe that was because it was damaged.
- 31:37When he looked on the other side there
- 31:38was no damage whatsoever. That's
- 31:40censorship
- 31:41folks. these insertions, these erasers,
- 31:45these coverings, these patches suggest
- 31:47wholesale censorship during the 700
- 31:49period that during the Ottoman Empire
- 31:51because they controlled all of these
- 31:53manuscripts
- 31:55and they were the ones that chose the
- 31:56Huff text. This is censorship at its
- 32:00worst. Standardizing the texts in each
- 32:02of these manuscripts to support the 1924
- 32:05Huffs Razub text, the Huffs text because
- 32:07the Ottomans had chosen the rough that
- 32:09they had 700 years to standardize all of
- 32:13these manuscripts.
- 32:15Now, I wanted to take down his material
- 32:16down to speaker's corner. So, I got up
- 32:18on the ladder and there his hatsh my
- 32:20colleague that I was talking about
- 32:21earlier. She's the one that's been
- 32:23beaten up. She's been stabbed. They've
- 32:24broken her ribs. They've broken her
- 32:25feet. She's been hung. And yet she's
- 32:28still living because Jesus Christ full
- 32:29preserver until he's ready to take her
- 32:31home. She is a tigris for Jesus Christ.
- 32:35As we got on the ladder there, this man
- 32:37here, Mansul Rahmed, got on the ladder
- 32:38with him. Ms Ahmed is probably one of
- 32:40the leading authorities on the
- 32:42manuscripts on the Quran. He controls
- 32:44all the manuscripts on the Islamic
- 32:46awareness website that's up there in
- 32:48Cambridge University. So he got on the
- 32:50ladder to confront us and he started
- 32:52making claims. I'm not going to though,
- 32:54you can watch the video. It's on Fender
- 32:56Films. and he started saying listen we
- 32:58don't care about these these manuscripts
- 33:00we have found we know that we can trace
- 33:02we can trace the Quran all the way back
- 33:05to the time of Utman so I said well
- 33:07that's interesting man 652 you have a
- 33:10manuscript that's 114 suras not one word
- 33:13not one letter has changed exactly like
- 33:15the Quran we have today and he was quiet
- 33:18said where is that manuscript he didn't
- 33:19want to say I said well what about the
- 33:20seventh century he didn't want to answer
- 33:22I said well then what's he said it's
- 33:24within the first century ah after hijra
- 33:28that means between 6:22 and 719 that he
- 33:33could find a complete Quran I said a
- 33:35complete Quran by 719 can you tell me
- 33:37what manuscript you're talking about he
- 33:40says we have 97% of the Quran by the
- 33:43first century age by 719 we have 97%
- 33:47what is he talking about you want to
- 33:49know don't you let's take a look just go
- 33:51up on his in Islamic awareness website
- 33:54and that's what he's talking about
- 33:5763 fragments.
- 34:00Those are not it's not one manuscript.
- 34:03It's 63 fragments. That's half the Quran
- 34:06right there. That's the 2165. That's the
- 34:09Mel Quran that's there in the British G
- 34:11Rback Gallery there on the British
- 34:13library. That only is half the Quran.
- 34:15That only goes up to surah 43. That's
- 34:17the best they've got. All the rest are
- 34:19nothing more than fragments. Fragments
- 34:21all the way down to one verse or two
- 34:22verses. And when you add them all 63
- 34:25together, you get 97% of the Quran.
- 34:27Assuming therefore that every one of
- 34:29these manuscripts and these fragments
- 34:31are before 719. He didn't know that we'd
- 34:33go and check them up on it. So we did. I
- 34:35had my team go check them up. And this
- 34:37is what we found. 20 of them, the ones
- 34:40that I'm putting up right now in the
- 34:41green are tentatively dated with
- 34:44disagreements. That means these have no
- 34:46ones have come to any conclusion because
- 34:48people are still debating them. We have
- 34:51no idea whether any of them are prior to
- 34:53719.
- 34:55Notice that three of them are three of
- 34:56the largest ones that they have up there
- 34:58on the graph.
- 35:00Nine of them, including the largest one,
- 35:02the Mel one, which comes from the late
- 35:038th century, is not before 719. He
- 35:06should have never used those ones in
- 35:07blue right there. None of them are from
- 35:09before 79. They're all after 719. Well,
- 35:12what about the other 34? If you look at
- 35:15the other 34, no one's done any work on
- 35:17any of them. Therefore, they have no
- 35:19idea what dates they are. No one's ever
- 35:22come up with any conclusion. And
- 35:23therefore, they use them because they
- 35:25needed them, not thinking that we would
- 35:26hold them accountable before them. When
- 35:28you look at every one of these 63
- 35:30fragments, what of our conclusions? The
- 35:32conclusions are that none of them are
- 35:34really valid. Since all of them are
- 35:36either later or tentatively dated or
- 35:38have no supporting evidence,
- 35:42now we come to probably the most
- 35:44devastating material. This is the stuff
- 35:45that Hutintosh found and this is why
- 35:47they want to kill her. The Kats. How
- 35:50many know what the Kirats are? Raise of
- 35:51hands. None of you. Woo. Okay, this is
- 35:56going to all be near to you. This is new
- 35:57for all of you. Okay. The kats are the
- 36:01readings of the Quran. Now remember,
- 36:04Arabic was used in the Quran today. It
- 36:06does not the same as the Arabic that was
- 36:08used in the Quran in the hijab in the
- 36:107th century. The Arabic was Nabotian
- 36:12Aramaic with only 16 letters and
- 36:14therefore the Rosom the the letters the
- 36:17Rosen what we know the conental text did
- 36:20not have any dots. A single consonant
- 36:22letter could be pronounced five to eight
- 36:24different ways depending on where you
- 36:26put the dots in the vowels. But remember
- 36:28these dots and vowels did not exist in
- 36:30the seventh century. Thus in the 8th
- 36:32century the jams, the dots and the
- 36:34haraka which are the vows had to be
- 36:36created for that reason because no one
- 36:38could read them. as you who are Arab
- 36:40speakers, you can't read those
- 36:42manuscripts. You need to have dots and
- 36:44vowels. So, let me just give you an
- 36:46example. Here is a normal letter in
- 36:49Arabic. It's just a smiley face. You put
- 36:51one dot, it becomes a na or an N. Two
- 36:54dots becomes a T or a T. Three dots
- 36:56becomes a th or a th. One dot below
- 36:58becomes a b or a b. Two dots becomes a
- 37:00ya. So,
- 37:02those dots are needed to make to
- 37:04distinguish between five different
- 37:05letters. But those were all created in
- 37:07the 8th to 9th century. They did not
- 37:09exist in the seventh century. Then you
- 37:11have the three vowels. The dhama which
- 37:14is the ooh sound, the kas which is the e
- 37:16sound below the letter and then the fata
- 37:19which is the a sound. Now when you look
- 37:21those dots and vowels in the different
- 37:22vowels, if you take three letters
- 37:24together and you put dots and vowels
- 37:26where you want to, you can get 19
- 37:27different words.
- 37:29That's why you had to have dots and
- 37:31vowels. But they were all created two to
- 37:34300 years later. So that what we now
- 37:37have today are all these Qurans with
- 37:39different Dawson vowels. Everybody start
- 37:42putting their Dawson vowels where they
- 37:43wanted to. So you live in Kufa, you put
- 37:45your Dawson vowels where you want to.
- 37:46Your name is Huffs. Now you live in
- 37:48Cairo and you decide that you're going
- 37:49to put your DOS and vowels where you
- 37:51want to and your name is W. But you live
- 37:53in Mecca, Medina, so you your name is
- 37:54Albin Kat, so you put your dots and
- 37:56vowels where you want to. And you don't
- 37:58even look at each other's books and so
- 37:59you come up with completely different
- 38:00Qurans and your family memorizes yours.
- 38:03And those people in Cairo memorize yours
- 38:05and those in Middle East in Saudi Arabia
- 38:07memorize yours. But they're completely
- 38:09different. Well, don't just stop with
- 38:11you. Every one of you here starts to put
- 38:14your dots and vowels. By the 10th
- 38:15century, there are 700 different Qurans.
- 38:18Did you hear me? 700 different Qurans,
- 38:22all written by 700 different men all
- 38:24over the Middle East. There was a
- 38:26dilemma.
- 38:28Now, I'm going to show you 26. These are
- 38:30the 26 that Hatutun Tosh found just by
- 38:32going to Jordan, going to northern
- 38:35Africa, going to Yemen, and going to
- 38:37Syria. She found these 26 by 2016. She
- 38:41came and she showed me these 26. Not one
- 38:44of those 26 are alike.
- 38:47These you can buy today, folks. She
- 38:49bought them in different bookstores all
- 38:50over the Middle East. We took them down
- 38:52to Speaker's Corner. But what are they
- 38:55read? These are the 20 These are 26 of
- 38:57the 30 that exist. Here are the first
- 39:00seven that were created and chosen by
- 39:02Iban Mujahed. Look at the date. 936.
- 39:04Notice every one of those writers died
- 39:06in 785, 736, 770, 736, 745, 752, and
- 39:12805. They're all 8th to 9th century
- 39:14writers, right? None of them knew
- 39:15Muhammad. None of them were living when
- 39:17Muhammad was living. They were all
- 39:18creating their Quran's ex Nikilo.
- 39:21Can you see that? They weren't good
- 39:24enough. They needed a lot more. So, they
- 39:25had to choose some more. So a man named
- 39:26Al-Shabi chose two students from every
- 39:29one of those seven. So now you have 14
- 39:32others chosen to add to the seven. Now
- 39:34you have 21 different Qurans by 1194 by
- 39:37the 12th century. We're talking about
- 39:39500 years after Muhammad. Those still
- 39:41weren't enough. They had to choose
- 39:42another three kats and another six of
- 39:45their students. So you have Al Jazadi
- 39:47choose another three kats and six more
- 39:50students. So now you have nine. 7 + 21,
- 39:53sorry, 7 + 14 + 3 + 6 makes 30 different
- 39:57Qurans. By the end of the 15th century,
- 40:02800 years after Muhammad, you now have
- 40:0430 Qurans. 30 official Qurans chosen out
- 40:07of the 700. You're looking at them, but
- 40:10when you look at them on the internet,
- 40:11they're all there, and none of them have
- 40:13their dates on them. No Muslim wants you
- 40:15to see their dates. Look at their dates.
- 40:17Look when they died. They all died in
- 40:19the 8th and 9th and 10th century,
- 40:21hundreds of years after Muhammad. Not
- 40:23one of them is from that time period.
- 40:25But the one that was chosen is this one.
- 40:27I've just circled the huffs. How many
- 40:29differences between this one and the
- 40:31other 29? We've now found out 93,000
- 40:36differences.
- 40:3893,000 different words, which means
- 40:4193,000 different letters, which means
- 40:4393,000 different theology, different
- 40:45doctrines, different practices. There is
- 40:48not just one Quran. There are 30 Qurans
- 40:51with 93,000 differences. These two I
- 40:54have right today are the three the two
- 40:56the two most popular. This is the
- 40:58waters. This is yours from uh Cairo and
- 41:00this is yours. This is from Kufa. This
- 41:02was written in 796. This one is written
- 41:04in 812. There are 5,000 differences just
- 41:07between these two Qurans.
- 41:11That's all you need is just these two.
- 41:1393% of the Muslim world memorizes this
- 41:16one. 3% of the Muslim world memorizes
- 41:19this one. All the ones in North Africa
- 41:20memorize this one. Can you see why they
- 41:23cannot give up memorizing? Because
- 41:24they're completely different Qurans.
- 41:26They have to keep to their Qurans. Now,
- 41:30we showed them at Speakers Corner in
- 41:322016, and boy, the world went berserk as
- 41:35we filmed and put it up on the internet.
- 41:37But there was a man there who was
- 41:38watching what was going on. His name is
- 41:40Muhammad Hijab. That's him right there.
- 41:42and he he completely went outside the
- 41:44group and he said, "People come to me.
- 41:45I'll explain what's going on." Well,
- 41:47that was in 2006 and he didn't know what
- 41:49was going on. So, two four years later,
- 41:52he decided he had to do something. This
- 41:54is what happened. He had to go to this
- 41:55man here, the world's leading authority
- 41:57on the kadot. He was the one that did a
- 41:59doctoral degree at Yale University on
- 42:01this very problem. In 1995, he got his
- 42:04doctorate. Therefore, he's the world's
- 42:05leading official. He lives in Houston,
- 42:07speaks fluent English and Arabic and
- 42:09Udu. He's from Pakistan. His name is Dr.
- 42:12Yasar Kadi. He is all over the internet.
- 42:14If you go up on the internet, he has
- 42:15over a half a million followers. So
- 42:17Muhammad Hijab from London who is there
- 42:19at the corner who has a following of
- 42:21600,000 subscribers on his YouTube
- 42:24channel wanted to ask Yasar Khadi what
- 42:27he's going to do. And the first question
- 42:28he said, I'm going to put out a blank
- 42:30sheet, a blank hand. Which Quran are you
- 42:33going to write? Which is the eternal
- 42:34Quran?
- 42:36Is it Tus? Is it W? Is it IB? Isu before
- 42:41he could finish Yokai said do not ask me
- 42:44this question. We do not talk about this
- 42:46in public. Turn off your camera. He had
- 42:49no idea we were all watching and
- 42:52recording what he was saying.
- 42:55And then he says
- 42:57the au and the ko are the most difficult
- 42:59topic for scholars. You do not tell the
- 43:02new converts about of Islam about the
- 43:03kirat. Only with the more advanced
- 43:05students do you deep dive on this issue.
- 43:08asked me after this interview and I'll
- 43:09tell you about it. For the last thousand
- 43:11years, scholars do not have an answer
- 43:14for this problem. Muslim respect the
- 43:17Quran. He says, "We have a red line
- 43:18beyond which we don't go." So, Muhammad
- 43:21Hijab, is that what happened to you
- 43:23there at Yale University when you had a
- 43:25crisis of faith? No, no, no, not a
- 43:26crisis of faith, a crisis of knowledge.
- 43:30He says, "I still believe it's the word
- 43:31of God."
- 43:33He says here in the west there are no
- 43:35red lines at Yale University that you
- 43:37can ask any question you want.
- 43:40The standard narrative he says you your
- 43:42standard narrative has holes in it.
- 43:45That's why we call it the standard
- 43:46narrative. What narrative is that? The
- 43:49standard Islamic narrative. S I N. Well,
- 43:53we know sin has holes in it all over the
- 43:55place. Of course it has holes. But he
- 43:57was the one that coined the phrase and
- 43:58that was in October. What is the date?
- 44:00That was June the 8th, 2020. He said,
- 44:03"Western academics have come leaps and
- 44:05bounds on this issue. They look at the
- 44:07rest of us like emperors with no
- 44:08clothes. I've never lectured on this
- 44:10subject for the last 25 years. This
- 44:13subject should never be brought up in
- 44:14public. Turn off your camera. Do not ask
- 44:17me this to say which was written on the
- 44:19blank Muslim because he asked him a
- 44:20second time. Which one are you going to
- 44:21write?" Says, "Do not ask me this
- 44:23question." When he finally asked him the
- 44:25third time, he said, "Okay, okay." He
- 44:28finally had to give in. He said, "They
- 44:31are all the Quran. You mean a little bit
- 44:34of Huffs, a little bit of W, a little
- 44:35Yes. a little bit of every one of these.
- 44:37You just mix them all together and
- 44:38that's the Quran we have today." I
- 44:40started clapping.
- 44:42I said he had no idea what he was
- 44:44saying. He had no idea is the trap he
- 44:46had just walked into. Cuz no longer
- 44:49after June 8th, 2020 can now Muslims say
- 44:52there is one Quran that is completely
- 44:55preserved. Because the world's leading
- 44:57scholar has finally admit there are many
- 44:58Qurans. No two are alike. Within two
- 45:03weeks, all the comments I was looking at
- 45:04the comments on both of their YouTube
- 45:06sites. There were hundreds and hundreds
- 45:08of Muslims that were saying, "I am no
- 45:09longer a Muslim. I've given up Islam
- 45:11because of that interview, and my blood
- 45:13is going to be on your shoulder." There
- 45:15were hundreds of Muslims that were
- 45:16leaving Islam because of that interview.
- 45:18Just 28 minute long interview.
- 45:22[applause]
- 45:24Within two weeks, they had to shut down
- 45:27all those comments. They could not let
- 45:29those comments go. Within two months, by
- 45:31o August of 2020, they had to delete
- 45:34those interviews off of both of their
- 45:36sites. But I have it. It's right here in
- 45:40this computer. You can have it. Hatun
- 45:43has it. David Wood has it, Sam Shamoon,
- 45:45we all have it. And every June 8th, we
- 45:49bring it up again and we have a
- 45:51celebration when the Quran was thrown
- 45:54under the bus by Dr. Yasari. [applause]
- 45:58See what YouTube can do.
- 46:01So, how did the huffs come to be? How
- 46:03did they get this Quran that we called
- 46:05the Huffs? This all happened 100 years
- 46:07ago in 1924 when they were there in high
- 46:10schools just high school kids were
- 46:12coming with 20 30 different answers to
- 46:14these standardized tests. They had a
- 46:16dilemma. So they went to Muhammad
- 46:17Al-Husani Al-Had who is a scholar there
- 46:20at Alazad University and he chose the
- 46:23Huffs Quran. Why? Because the Ottomans
- 46:24had chosen the Hut Quran. So he used
- 46:27this Quran as the final Quran and they
- 46:29took the other 29 Qurans and dumped them
- 46:31into the Nile thinking that would get
- 46:32rid of them. What a stupid idea.
- 46:35I may get rid of them for Cairo but not
- 46:37for the rest of the world. And then they
- 46:39decided that this would be the official
- 46:41Quran for just the univers I'm sorry for
- 46:43just the high schools in Cairo. But they
- 46:45found that there were problems. There
- 46:46were lots of in difficulties. There were
- 46:48grammatical errors. So they had to
- 46:50change it seven times. Finally by 1936
- 46:54they decided they finally called the
- 46:55Faruk edition. After seven different
- 46:57changes they came up with the Faruk
- 46:59edition which they made the Quran for
- 47:02all of Egypt. that became so successful
- 47:04that in 1985
- 47:07King Fod who is the king uh the the
- 47:09their of Saudi Arabia decided to make
- 47:12the Huff Quran the universal Quran for
- 47:15all the world that was in 1985. How many
- 47:18of you here were alive in 1985? Raise
- 47:21your hands. That means every one of you
- 47:24that's raising your hands, you are older
- 47:26than the official Quran.
- 47:28>> Doesn't that make you feel old?
- 47:30The official Quran that every Muslim
- 47:32used today or 93% of the Muslims use
- 47:35today made to by this man right here in
- 47:37796
- 47:39is only 39 years old. Oo, that makes me
- 47:42feel old.
- 47:45Where did the material of the Quran come
- 47:47from? I'm going to end with this and
- 47:48this is the most devastating. This is
- 47:49the best one. So, where did this Quran
- 47:52come from? Where did all this material
- 47:55come from?
- 47:56When you look at the Quran, you will
- 47:57notice that about 25% of it no one
- 47:59understands. These are known as the dark
- 48:01passages. This is the beautiful poetry
- 48:03that's in the Quran. A lot of it none of
- 48:05the scholars can understand. They can't
- 48:06follow. It doesn't make any sense. 25%
- 48:09of the Quran makes no sense. Can you
- 48:12imagine what would our pastors do if 25%
- 48:14of the Bible made no sense?
- 48:16Thank God we don't have that problem
- 48:18with the Bible. We can understand every
- 48:19verse. Isn't it great? What a Bible we
- 48:22have. So, here was a problem. And this
- 48:25scholar here, his name Dr. Gunter
- 48:27Luding, he's a good friend of mine. I
- 48:28went to see him in 1970. He decided to
- 48:31look and he noticed that a lot of this
- 48:32beautiful hymn, these beautiful poetry
- 48:35that you see in the Quran that Muslims
- 48:37claim this must be from God because how
- 48:39could an illiterate man write such
- 48:40beautiful poetry. He said, "I've seen
- 48:43that before." So he decided to take the
- 48:45dots off. Remember I talked about the
- 48:47five dots and the three vowels? He took
- 48:49those dots and vowels off and got it
- 48:51down to its original consonental text.
- 48:53And then he went to Syriak dots and vows
- 48:55and put them back on. And when he put it
- 48:58back into the Syriak, he found that
- 49:00every one of this beautiful poetry were
- 49:02Christian hymns written in the sixth and
- 49:04seventh century.
- 49:09He wrote his doctorate, passed his
- 49:11doctorate. As a result, he got excan
- 49:14opus, which is the highest grade you can
- 49:16get in Germany. But within two years he
- 49:19was thrown out of the university, thrown
- 49:21into obscurity and he went on welfare
- 49:23for 30 years and his wife. I went to see
- 49:26him the end of 1990s. I went to his
- 49:28home. I asked him about his doctoral
- 49:29thesis. He showed me and I says, "Can I
- 49:32take them back to in London with me?"
- 49:33And I get them translated into English
- 49:34because no one can understand your
- 49:36German because this German, listen, the
- 49:37first sentence was 400 words long. This
- 49:40is high German. And I went through three
- 49:43translators in Britain to try to
- 49:45understand what this all made sense. We
- 49:46finally got it all translated into
- 49:48English. We sent it back to him. That's
- 49:50it there in the yellow. He then got it
- 49:51printed up in India and he went all over
- 49:54the world and he is now been
- 49:55resurrected. He's back. He was back in
- 49:57academia and he died a happy man by 2015
- 50:00just because we got it translated into
- 50:02English. [applause]
- 50:07Christoph Luxembourg, that's not his
- 50:08real name. Another German scholar, it's
- 50:10all coming out of Germany. He decided to
- 50:11go one step further. He wanted to do
- 50:13what gulluling did but he wanted to go
- 50:15look to all this dark passages that no
- 50:17one understands and he went through
- 50:19seven different layers. He first looked
- 50:21at the alabar's 10th century taps the
- 50:24commentary and he couldn't find any help
- 50:25there. He then looked at the listen alab
- 50:27the tongue of the Arabs the Arabic
- 50:28dictionary he couldn't find any help
- 50:30there and then he went and looked at the
- 50:32homonymous synonyms in the Aramaic then
- 50:34started he started seeing things happen
- 50:36then he tried different diiocritics
- 50:38taking off the five dots putting on the
- 50:41other Aramaic dotsaic dots and then he
- 50:44looked for Aramaic roots with different
- 50:46diiocritics and then re-ransated the
- 50:48Arabic word back into the Aramaic using
- 50:50the semantics of the cyroaic words
- 50:53trying to find the lost meanings of
- 50:54these Arab words using 10th century
- 50:56Syraic lexicons, he was able to
- 50:59translate every one of the dark
- 51:01passages. But guess what he found?
- 51:05By translating it back to the
- 51:07Cyro-Aramaic,
- 51:09all the dark passages were Christian
- 51:11lectionaries, Christian homalies, and
- 51:13Christian hymns, all to Jesus Christ.
- 51:16[applause]
- 51:18It's not what he found, it's who he
- 51:21found. All of these beautiful poetry,
- 51:24all this beautiful part of the Quran, it
- 51:26was all from Christian lectionaries,
- 51:29Christian homalies, and Christian hymns.
- 51:32Folks,
- 51:34you know what that means? That means we
- 51:36need to go back and take the Quran back
- 51:38to its roots. We need to take the Quran
- 51:41back to the Syriak roots. And what we're
- 51:44going to do, we're in the process of
- 51:46doing that now. We're going to take
- 51:47bring the Quran home. Now remember I
- 51:50told you to memorize four words. I told
- 51:53you that the Quran was eternal,
- 51:57sent down, complete and unchanged.
- 52:01That's what the Muslims claim, right?
- 52:03Have we shut down eternality tonight?
- 52:06Yep.
- 52:07>> How about sent down? We shut that down
- 52:08tonight. Complete? No. None of it's
- 52:11complete. None of the earliest
- 52:12manuscripts complete. Unchanged.
- 52:1493,000 changes. And that's just the diet
- 52:17critical changes. 4,000
- 52:21come on continental changes that Dan
- 52:23Brewbaker has found since 2014. The last
- 52:2610 years he's found 4,000 changes and
- 52:28he's still counting. So pretty much
- 52:31we've shut those down. No longer can
- 52:33Muslims claim that the Quran is eternal
- 52:35or sent down or complete or unchanged.
- 52:38We've shut that down. And we would never
- 52:40make that claim about our Bible. Please
- 52:42don't. Our Bible is not eternal nor was
- 52:44it sent down. Complete. Yes. the
- 52:46original manuscripts. We don't have the
- 52:48original manuscript changed. We know
- 52:49where the changes are because they're
- 52:51right there. We're very transparent
- 52:52about it. But see, the Bible is not the
- 52:55only word of God we have, right? There's
- 52:58another word of God, the logos.
- 53:02Jesus, is he also not called the word of
- 53:04God?
- 53:06>> Yes. In John 1,
- 53:09he is our eternal word of God. Let's ask
- 53:11these four questions of Jesus. Is Jesus
- 53:13eternal? Number one, was he sent down?
- 53:18>> Number two, is he complete?
- 53:21>> Number three, has he changed? Never.
- 53:24Everything the Muslims are looking for,
- 53:26we have in Jesus Christ.
- 53:29Mo folks, listen. The four criteria
- 53:31Muslims are looking for in their Quran,
- 53:33their primary revelation, we already
- 53:35have in Jesus Christ, our primary
- 53:37revelation. In conclusion, let's bring
- 53:40them home to a much greater and a much
- 53:43better revelation. and his name is Jesus
- 53:45Christ.
- 53:47[applause]
- 53:51[applause]
- 53:54>> I've got to catch my plane. I have two
- 53:56minutes before I leave. But folks, I
- 53:58want to end in prayer. Let's pray. Our
- 54:00heavenly father, this has been a good
- 54:02night because we have unpacked probably
- 54:04the most devastating material that shuts
- 54:07down the whole foundations of everything
- 54:09Muslims believe. They believe in one
- 54:11book, one man in one place.
- 54:13We've shut down that place quite easily.
- 54:16The man's a little bit more difficult.
- 54:17The place even more difficult. But Lord,
- 54:21just by going back to that time, that
- 54:23place in the 7th century in the middle
- 54:26part of Arabia, we pretty well know
- 54:28there was no Muhammad, there was no
- 54:30Quran, and there certainly was no Mecca.
- 54:32But see, we don't have that problem.
- 54:34Lord, you have made sure that you have
- 54:37left these coins for us to look at. You
- 54:39have made sure that you've left these
- 54:41inscriptions and these manuscripts and
- 54:43these buildings. You have made sure that
- 54:45if we're not going to cry out, the rocks
- 54:46are going to cry out for us.
- 54:49Lord, you have kept all these beautiful
- 54:51pieces, these gems all through the
- 54:53desert so that we can find out who you
- 54:55were, what you did, what you said, and
- 54:56we can trust what has been written about
- 54:59you because it was written by those who
- 55:00actually knew you,
- 55:02who were with you for the last three
- 55:04years of your life.
- 55:06Lord, we have passed every one of these
- 55:08tests. These are tests that we have
- 55:11always had to do for the last 2,000
- 55:13years. Since the 1800s, we have had to
- 55:15pass these tests to prove that you did
- 55:16exist, to prove that you did die, and
- 55:18especially to prove that you rose again.
- 55:20And we have proved every one of those,
- 55:23which means we are the most best capable
- 55:25to do the same with Islam and any other
- 55:29religion that shows its face and take
- 55:31claims to be historical. So Lord, help
- 55:34us to get beyond this fear. Give us the
- 55:38courage to take that which you have
- 55:40given us to not hide it under a bushell
- 55:44to expose it to the world and expose it
- 55:46to the to the Muslims are be beautiful
- 55:49lovely men and women who I love
- 55:52who have been changed and dis and
- 55:54completely destroyed by one book and one
- 55:57man. Lord, help us bring them home.
- 56:01Let's bring them home to you. Take them
- 56:03away from Allah, back to Yahweh. Take
- 56:06them away from Muhammad, back to Jesus
- 56:08Christ, to you, Lord. Take them away
- 56:10from the Quran and back to your
- 56:12scripture in your gospel. And Lord, help
- 56:14us to do that in with every Muslim we
- 56:17meet. So Lord, as we leave tonight, we
- 56:20ask that we take this message with us
- 56:22and that we use it, that we don't hide
- 56:23it, and Lord, that we use it with our
- 56:25Muslim friends because they need it more
- 56:27than anybody else and they're growing
- 56:28faster than anybody else. We need to
- 56:30actually bring them home. What would it
- 56:32be to have that many souls who become
- 56:34Pauls? Can you imagine these most
- 56:35radical Muslims bringing them to you?
- 56:37And Lord, what you can do with them? And
- 56:40so Lord, we ask that you help us to
- 56:42understand this material and use it for
- 56:44your glory, for your kingdom. In
- 56:46Christ's name we pray. Amen.
- 56:49[applause]
- 56:51>> Okay, I have two questions.
- 56:55I'm going to end with these two
- 56:56questions. I said I was going to ask you
- 56:59two questions at the end. Don't get up
- 57:00yet. to stay here. How many of you
- 57:03understood everything you saw tonight?
- 57:05Raise of hands.
- 57:07Not exhaustedly, but how many
- 57:09understood?
- 57:11>> Okay, about half of you.
- 57:14How many, if I gave you this PowerPoint,
- 57:17could actually use it and actually teach
- 57:20it yourself?
- 57:22Look at that. Wow.
- 57:25See how easy this is?
- 57:27This is by far the easiest material I've
- 57:30ever used in 40 years. I've never had it
- 57:32this easy. It's all visual. You notice
- 57:35it's maps, it's timelines, it's coins,
- 57:39it's inscriptions, it's manuscripts.
- 57:42Notice none of you had to learn Arabic
- 57:43to learn what you what we were saying
- 57:45tonight. You don't have to learn all
- 57:47about these great these terrible these
- 57:49difficult arguments in the hadith and
- 57:51the traditions. You don't have to
- 57:53memorize any of this. You don't even
- 57:54have to look at the Quran. Don't even
- 57:56read the Quran. What a waste of time.
- 58:00Let me do that.
- 58:02All you have to do is ask those
- 58:04questions. And one of the easiest
- 58:06question is, where's your evidence?
- 58:09Have you done your research?
- 58:11How can you claim Mecca existed? There's
- 58:13no water there. What are you going to do
- 58:14without water? You can't have a
- 58:16civilization. You can't even have a
- 58:18Quran. All these questions, every one of
- 58:20those slides is an argument in
- 58:22themselves. And you can have these
- 58:24slides now. You can have every one of
- 58:25these. I've got to leave. You're
- 58:28[snorts] going to stay. I hope you meet
- 58:30Muslims. They're all around you. Listen,
- 58:32please. Whenever you go up to Muslim,
- 58:34always ask them, show or say two things
- 58:36to every Muslim you meet. I believe
- 58:38Jesus is God. I believe the Bible is the
- 58:40word of God. Do you have an opinion?
- 58:43They'll have hundreds of opinions.
- 58:46But show the evidence that we have for
- 58:48our Bible, our book, and our man, Jesus
- 58:51Christ. So much evidence. They have
- 58:54nothing in return. God bless you. We'll
- 58:56see you again. I'm off.
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