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0:01Hector Bravo
0:04[Music]
0:05unhinged chaos is now in
0:10session oh [ __ ] you done put two
0:13America's most want in the same
0:15[ __ ] place at the same
0:16[ __ ] time welcome back to our
0:19channels Warriors today we have a banger
0:23right in the house we have none other
0:25than 59j J Hans from Renegade media what
0:28up dude what's going on man it was a
0:30pleasure to be here you already know I
0:31wanted to do this podcast with you the
0:33infamous J hands man not too many people
0:36get to see me in public not too many
0:38people get the privilege to interview me
0:40but we've done two interviews together
0:43that did bangers over the Internet so
0:45why not make it official and just do
0:46this one in person exclusive and give
0:49the audience members what they want some
0:50important questions I appreciate that
0:52dude so um [ __ ] bro how does it feel to
0:55be in Southern California right now dude
0:57I mean San Diego is beautiful I like the
1:00waters I like the bridges went to a
1:03couple of you know gang neighborhoods
1:04just to trip out on it but I but my
1:07audience members and a lot of people
1:08that think that I'm in hiding don't
1:09understand is that I'm in California a
1:11hell of a lot more than they think I
1:13just don't present my location and I
1:15don't brag about it there's no need for
1:16it with all the shenanigans people
1:18promote about me wanting me dead there's
1:21no need to you know showcase where I'm
1:23at but I still enjoy my life so coming
1:25to Southern California this nothing new
1:26I stopped in La now I'm in San Diego for
1:29the first time and enjoying seafood and
1:31enjoying the the
1:33hills so you totally understand that
1:35there's a credible threat on your life
1:37yeah um it's it's disappointing to an
1:40extent though because you know I'm
1:42speaking about truth and realities that
1:44people were afraid to speak about and
1:47it's only because they're inspired by
1:49other gang leaders and gang bangers to
1:52not hear me out or they don't they
1:54disapprove of what I'm saying and my
1:56message and the realities of the facts
1:57that I present yeah I understand there's
1:59a threat but that just goes to show me
2:01that what I'm saying is true and what
2:02I'm saying is detrimental to their gang
2:05life and their gang culture that they
2:06really want me dead but I'm not just
2:08going to live in fear and just stay in
2:10the house all the time just because they
2:11want me dead I have a life to live
2:13that's why I promote one life one chance
2:16damn dude no I respect that dude I mean
2:18[ __ ] you're all in I me you're all in
2:19you're all in dude yeah yeah they don't
2:22like it but you know the truth of the
2:24matter is they always say everybody
2:26knows what they signed up for right in
2:28reality we really don't and they could
2:30be as hypocritical as they want when
2:31they say that I'm just utilizing my
2:33content the information that I gather
2:35the investigations that I do the
2:37journalism that I produce to show kids
2:40like man there's a lot more to it than
2:41just you know being part of a
2:42neighborhood facts if you want to be
2:45part of the neighborhood that's what
2:46comes along with it how long have you
2:47been grinding away on the YouTube
2:49spreading the message already I think I
2:51hit my two-year Mark to be honest with
2:53you and to be honest with you I started
2:55off YouTube wrong I was a little Thug
2:57little Northern Rider gang banger really
2:59I was just trying to start a different
3:02movement you know I was branching off
3:04from Snoop Maurice
3:06Vasquez and I was just telling prison
3:08stories but there was an encouragement
3:11that I seen in the comment section like
3:12hey we want to hear your prison stories
3:14so I started telling little by little
3:16all right I made him funny somewhat
3:19educational and I seen I man after after
3:22I was monetized my first my second week
3:24on YouTube I realized that I had
3:27something and when I got to 20,000
3:29subscribers and six months I was like
3:31okay this is this is really what I want
3:33to do now be a content creator who were
3:35the people that were following you at
3:37first was it like people from your
3:39area former gang members current gang
3:42members who who did you see initially uh
3:44initially was a lot of Northern Riders
3:46were following me in the beginning but a
3:49lot of people from tar County and Kings
3:51County because I was referencing a lot
3:52of names from a lot of different
3:54neighborhoods where people who even knew
3:55these guys a lot of my codefendants a
3:58lot of dudes that were on the streets
3:59with me that put in work with me that
4:00watched me do all those string of arm
4:02robberies watch me work for the big
4:03homies like man this Fool's over here
4:05telling all the street stories so it was
4:07initially my local area and with the
4:10algorithm just pushed out to a greater
4:12audience and next thing you know I'm
4:14talking to people from Japan and UK like
4:17oh my God I'm in I'm in Mexico right now
4:19so sure but it was mostly my general
4:21area the 559 what county did you grew up
4:24in I grew up in terer County the city of
4:27terer terer County mostly T velia
4:31Farmersville and then I caught my cases
4:33in Porterville now T is Central Valley
4:37Central Valley right California South
4:40Central North yeah but you ran with the
4:43Northerners you were in northel yeah
4:45where's that line where's that line
4:47Bakersfield um it used to technically
4:50it's always going to be Bakersfield back
4:53then but you got to remember deleno now
4:55has
4:56northel now you got northel in Mexico
4:59then you got another thanel is trying to
5:00come up in the streets of Los Angeles
5:02people don't want to talk about it but
5:04I've seen the pictures I've seen the
5:05taggings I've seen the neighborhoods
5:07just like they are in Mexico but back
5:09then Bakersfield was the dividing line
5:11like I I would never go past Bakersfield
5:13like I had no business going down south
5:15were there surenos in to oh yes that's a
5:19fact and that's the thing that I think
5:21stirred up a lot of emotions in the
5:23beginning when I first started doing
5:24YouTube is that I started talking about
5:26you know Wicked ass surenos that were
5:28inary and how we beef with them and how
5:30they shot up homies
5:32and the noro mentality is man they don't
5:35like that aspect and that's why I think
5:36a lot of tar County noros don't like me
5:38now it's because I talk about Southside
5:40Kings I talk about local park I talk
5:42about dudes like sniper that got out of
5:44ya and his dad was a northerner and he
5:46killed two Northerners and went back to
5:47prison I talk about dudes in different
5:51neighborhoods ivanho their Southsiders
5:54there and they're actually more deep now
5:55than they ever been in toar
5:57County what a what a what time frame
6:00what years were these when you were down
6:01there doing your thing um I want to say
6:04between 99 and 2005 God damn man that's
6:08when the that's when the war in Iraq was
6:10kicking the war on the streets was
6:12kicking yeah I remember I was in uh I
6:14was in a group on on a ya suspension
6:17when uh 911 took place and it's funny
6:19that we're all they made us sit there
6:21and watch 911 on the news like we're
6:24ready to go to war for this terrorist
6:25attack yeah and then me and a homie from
6:28Moodle started beating up a southside of
6:29from M Lake cuz we were just during that
6:31during that the exact moment we're
6:32watching the planes we're watching the
6:33footages we're watching Everybody
6:36panicking and we just got so bored and
6:38we just looked at the Southside like
6:40let's get rid of this dude we just like
6:42the the the the the matters of
6:43importance that are bigger than us
6:46things are taking place a drastic change
6:47in American history but me and this dude
6:49want to go beat up a souer so I watch
6:52your channel man pretty consistently and
6:54you strike me as an intellectual
6:56individual were you that intellectual
6:57back then or were you just a youngster
6:59running a m
7:00um I was a Youngster running a mug I was
7:02a mean drug addict by the time I was 15
7:04years old I was on crystal medes the
7:06life of crime was what I got involved
7:09with and what I wanted to do that's all
7:11I cared about was being on a block being
7:13with the homies creasing up a red rag
7:15creasing up my Dickies my Benes but in
7:18reality I didn't become educated until
7:21about 18 when I started working with NF
7:24members their selo their demeanor their
7:27presentation on the streets just kind of
7:28made me straighten up a little bit like
7:31I'm dealing with some powerful people
7:33back then I didn't know what politics
7:34really were I just knew the way these
7:36guys conducted themselves I was in a
7:38whole different ball game so I started
7:40changing my mentality a little by little
7:42but it wasn't until I got to county jail
7:44and did my years in prison is when you
7:46know that dictionary and that the source
7:48was like weapons of violence the way you
7:51can use them when did you get your first
7:54glimpse of the politics of the norra
7:56Familia type politics I talked about it
7:59a long time ago um this was in 2000
8:0320002 2001 I was in the city of tary my
8:06neighborhood wasn't involved in politics
8:08at the time but there was a gang war
8:10going on between the east and west where
8:11tari was going at it over red on red
8:14crime uh NF member named Cobra got
8:17killed in velia and he was a street
8:19regimen Commander once he got killed a
8:23lot of the politics that were coming out
8:24of iselia that were connected to prison
8:27just flooded the streets of terer County
8:29so I seen a bunch of big homies just
8:31show up in vans come to tari and just
8:34told us hey we're going to stop this
8:36gang wary you guys are killing each
8:37other for for what because one dude slep
8:40slapped some youngster in the face and
8:41that youngster decided to retaliate yeah
8:43he was young minded he grabbed a gun he
8:44was embarrassed he cried in front of the
8:46homies and killed the big homies so we
8:48went to war so we threw a meeting at a
8:50park it was a Wilson it was like Wilson
8:53Elementary School in the back and dude I
8:55never seen so many noros in my life D
8:57was like a g City all over again 50 of
9:00them a lot of the big homies talked and
9:02they presented this filter the red on
9:04red crime filter and it was basically
9:06saying vao Warfare is not going to be
9:07tolerated so whoever continues to
9:09indulge in in red on red crime is going
9:12to be dealt with repercussions meaning
9:14the NF were sending hit squads to kill
9:16those that are being responsible in the
9:17continuance of North danels killing
9:19North danels that's when I seen this the
9:22seriousness like okay there's something
9:23else that's going on in these streets
9:25other than a red rag and a Blue Rag and
9:27I'm from the East he from the West
9:29that got introduced to me and I was
9:31about 13 13 years old more than likely
9:34do you think that filter came from the
9:36state prison yeah because remember this
9:38happened like in 2000
9:412001 the 2001 filter circulated no a of
9:45warfare that's when Black Widow
9:47operation kicked in and remember gu Jal
9:51rubacava is from vasilia so we had a lot
9:53of ties to it break down the rank
9:56structure on the streets cuz I know you
9:58said streets
9:59regiment okay
10:02so dismiss the penal system aspect
10:05correct the regiment Commander is either
10:07going to be an NF member that's present
10:09on the streets which could be from
10:11Selena could be from San Francisco San
10:13Jose whoever's present that's a high
10:15ranking member Capitan or Lieutenant on
10:18the streets I can start with tari tar
10:22zide had a regiment Channel which is the
10:24dude that pretty much control the hood
10:26shot call it for the hood East and West
10:28had two regiment channels but then those
10:31channels had Squad leaders and Squad
10:33departments and Manpower all that are
10:35assistant in the street regimen those
10:37two regiment channels are going to
10:38report to the dude that's going to run
10:40the whole city which is a regiment
10:43Commander those regiment commanders are
10:45going to all in different cities there's
10:47going to be one appointed to control
10:48every city all of them together is going
10:50to report to the regional Commander
10:52which is going to be an NF member in or
10:54outside the prison system majority of
10:56the time they have to be out but if
10:58there's none out
11:00we would back then Cork and Sho was
11:02responsible for Cher county keing county
11:04in the Central Valley and then when she
11:06went up north to like 209 that's all
11:08pelicin baying up so that's a rank
11:11structure what about the soldiers the
11:14the task are there some that are
11:15Shooters some that have certain
11:18responsibilities some get assigned as
11:20murder squads but in reality it's who
11:23you give your Consignments to so like I
11:26said back then for my hood I was
11:28answering homie named Steven morz that
11:30just got out of prison he was the
11:31regimen channel so he that was just you
11:34know burglarizing stealing burning up
11:36places burning up houses burning up
11:39garages the taxations on legal
11:42businesses wasn't really his thing that
11:44was uh silver from Farmersville the NF
11:46member that fell out of Grace that was
11:48his thing so he had a lot of homies that
11:50worked for him that did that but it all
11:52depends like what you're capable of
11:54doing and what your extent you're
11:55willing to go but in reality is whatever
11:57they tell you to do is what you're going
11:58to do so if they tomorrow they tell you
12:00to go kill somebody that's your
12:03obligation now realistically were those
12:06dudes um were you able to communicate
12:09with those type of guys were they people
12:10persons were they they have authority
12:13issues or is it kind of VAR from
12:15Individual to individual yeah it varies
12:17right um most of the time when they
12:20address a crowd they're going to be open
12:22and freely but then they always dismiss
12:24themselves and leave so they never were
12:26present to hang with us and drink beers
12:28with us and none of that or kick it at
12:30the football game and barbecues none of
12:33that silver was one that would he was
12:36more Hands-On so he would go with you to
12:38go do something but he would mostly
12:40stand outside while you did it he was
12:42more Hands-On bubbles on the other hand
12:45was the NF member I was working for and
12:47um like he he wasn't a people person
12:49I'll tell you that much you you couldn't
12:50really talk to him unless you were a
12:51squad member squad leader and you
12:54actually work directly with him he was
12:56the only one that would work with his
12:57Squad and people that would work for him
13:00every other NF member like Chante from
13:02Selena's you couldn't go to his house
13:04you couldn't accept you couldn't call
13:06him direct you're going to have to go
13:07through different types of people to get
13:09to him and then when you get the message
13:10back you might never even see that
13:11fool's face or breathe a you know
13:14breathe his air in his mouth some people
13:16are distance but most of all when they
13:18have these meetings they're real
13:20professional they're not drinking
13:22they're not smoking they're not talking
13:23to nobody they're just sitting there and
13:25just do they have a h trage yeah of
13:28course of course the meeting that I had
13:30in Porterville when I signed up to be on
13:32part of the squad was a backyard meeting
13:34had a couple cars in there and
13:35everybody's talking everybody's smoking
13:37but we're all confused we're all like
13:39why are all of us here East Side
13:41Porterville Westside Porterville vopos
13:43we're all there and we're just kind of
13:45like did we do something wrong the
13:47regimen was already out there then Bart
13:50showed up Bart brought the big homies
13:52and we seen this big homies and I just
13:53tripped out how everybody's demeanor was
13:55kind of
13:56like cuz I think everybody knew but
13:58everybody didn't know who these
13:59individuals really were so when
14:01everybody cut the it was the homie Ki he
14:04cut the music and he told everybody to
14:06shut up and and we just heard these
14:08political dudes start talking and what
14:09they wanted done and what was going on
14:11and the investigations that are being
14:13conducted because we had stabed like
14:14three people that were connected to high
14:17powered people so they were trying to
14:18find out who was responsible and a lot
14:20of us that were there that jumped those
14:21dudes that stabbed those dudes were kind
14:23of like damn they're going to have this
14:24under investigation and that's when they
14:26circulated the filter it was B from uh c
14:29b his younger brother Wicked was the one
14:31that walked around was like hey you want
14:33to work the squad you want to be part of
14:34the squad so if you didn't ask questions
14:37you just put your name on it and they
14:38actually had a sign up sheet sign up
14:40sheet it was just a piece of paper like
14:42composition book but you had to provide
14:44U like a number cell phone number your
14:46address where they can find you and like
14:48two other people if they couldn't get up
14:50hold you those two people had to be the
14:52ones to be able to get a hold of you but
14:53once you sign that little contract
14:56you're basically saying that you're
14:57going to be available on call
14:59so my dumb ass was like hell yeah dude
15:02what we going to do what we going to do
15:04and then Shing up it wasn't about two
15:05weeks later I was robbing everything
15:07moving I'm not surprised that you put
15:09your name down but I really didn't know
15:11whether you did or you didn't man I did
15:13it I did it right then and there because
15:14I was already involved with a lot of
15:16shootings that were taking
15:18place um a lot of violence and I was
15:21just like I I live for that it was the
15:23thrill of it I can see the parallels
15:26between law enforcement and Military as
15:28as far as like tactical units and the
15:30way that the NF conducted themselves out
15:32there in the streets man yeah there was
15:34um it's really militant minded so to
15:37speak but it's the way that they
15:39communicate it's the structure the the
15:41form of
15:42communications and anybody that's
15:44involved in it whether it's the relaying
15:46the messages decoding messages
15:48scrutinizing people's names doing
15:50background checks it kind of just makes
15:52your mind question everything cuz I
15:54would be I would go to places where they
15:56had these shoe boxes of bundles that
15:58smell like cat smell like dookie and his
16:00bundles that people were hooping in
16:02prison and they be like hey who's these
16:04Squad members names that were reported I
16:06just run them through and I would sit
16:08there and these little Scrolls these
16:10little BNL bundles we' be looking for
16:11their names and I'm sitting here like
16:13free why not just go get high kick it
16:15with some broad and I'm sitting there
16:17smelling some weird paper that smells
16:19like doooo and I'm like hold up dude
16:21wait a minute man you're tell me you're
16:22on the streets you guys receed bindles
16:24which pretty much have kites in them and
16:28you got guys as noros had to go through
16:31them yeah we had to go through them we
16:32had to go through them check people's
16:33names did they come from the prison out
16:35to the streets yeah people would parole
16:38like say if it was two North thanel
16:39paroling from a certain prison and uh it
16:42had to be delivered to this location of
16:45this regimen and this regimen had to
16:46drop it off in this regimen they would
16:49do that so these dudes would deliver
16:51they wouldn't have to even work for the
16:52regimen they'll just deliver it so maybe
16:54every 3 months we would get like a a van
16:57full of homies I'll show up atar County
16:59drop it off and Lindsay Lindsay was the
17:01it wasn't really the it was like a
17:03database they kept all the NF bundles
17:06and and soul bundles and any kites
17:08coming out from there it be distributed
17:09to to Larry County so sometimes I'll be
17:12reading these kites or I'll be reading
17:13these names like n this dude's names
17:15ain't on here it'll take like a two hour
17:17process and I just go back to getting
17:18high like what are we here for we were
17:20just scrutinizing anybody that was
17:22paroling or the members that are signed
17:23up for if they had any bad names if
17:25they're on a bad news list if they were
17:26under investigation if they're wanted
17:28for questioning
17:29so we had to do all that but I I
17:30remember that first scent when he pulled
17:32out that little shoe box and he open and
17:34started pulling out these bundles I was
17:35like man that smells like cat ler dude
17:37like a cat ler box that sounds like a
17:38shitty job man it was it was I didn't
17:42even hand santiz you ever catch any of
17:43the homies [ __ ] up and biting the
17:46[ __ ] thing with their teeth you're
17:47like hey man n they would already be
17:49unwrapped so they'd be unwrapped just
17:51thrown around like already UNS scrolled
17:53but that's a that's news to me dude I
17:56mean I went on potty watch in prison I
17:57had to open up my own Bund
17:59it so I was like it's not a fun thing to
18:03do we we probably remind me to touch
18:06back on that story man remind me to
18:09touch back on that one so damn dude now
18:12equipment wise clearly you guys need
18:14guns you guys need Vehicles you guys
18:17probably need Communications do the NF
18:21Supply that to you guys does the
18:23regiment Supply that to you guys or is
18:24it up to each individual to get their
18:25own equipment um the regiment is going
18:28to work as in all the money that we
18:31accumulate a third of it goes to the NF
18:33bank which whoever is going to be
18:34responsible for it ends up backing the
18:36penal system uh the sergeant of- arms
18:38and the treasures going to be the people
18:40that are going to utilize the money for
18:42specific purposes even though they
18:43documented on books but in this case
18:45it's going to be on paper mini written
18:48whatever money we make on the streets
18:50through drug sales through burglarizing
18:51through robbery a third of it always
18:53going back to the regimen to provide the
18:56sergeant of arms will use that to
18:57provide us weapons guns man I've been to
19:00houses where we lift up the mattress and
19:01there's a hole in the ground and it be
19:03stacked with you know swap outs just
19:05guns that we just had in the dirt i'
19:08I've did shootings where I walked to
19:10some backyard I didn't even know who it
19:11was and the dude was open up the door
19:13escort us to the back go to the shed
19:15open it we throw him in there never even
19:17remember the location it be like 2: 3 in
19:19the morning we just throw the guns in
19:20the shed he locks the shed and we leave
19:22that spot they have designated locations
19:24for that communication wise they didn't
19:28like talking over the phone back then
19:29back then we had like little I had like
19:30this little Cricket it was bull crap so
19:33anytime you really wanted to convey a
19:34message you really going to talk to a
19:36certain person meet the person at a
19:37certain location verbal communication
19:40then take it back to the person and just
19:42get rela like that verbal communication
19:44was important and that's how they pretty
19:46much communicated but when it comes to
19:48equipment wise everybody was doing
19:50something different there was identity
19:52theft going on credit card frauds going
19:54on I was more into like burglarizing
19:56robbery robbery was my thing then you
19:58just have certain people that just
19:59wanted to go shoot stuff up but the
20:01regim the NF don't provide that we as a
20:04collective collected all this money and
20:07we put it together and the regimen would
20:10hold that money and it'll be utilized
20:11for certain things either to get these
20:13nfds lawyers put money on their books or
20:16if you wanted to like say if I wanted to
20:18borrow some money they had a loan
20:20service so I can borrow like a th bucks
20:22but I had to give back like 1,500 with
20:25interest so you could do that as well if
20:27the bank was doing you know it was doing
20:29well feels good blossoming but often
20:31times no no homies were borrowing that
20:33money cuz now you've talked a lot about
20:35burglaries and shootings what about the
20:37dope game man me personally I wasn't
20:40involved in it but it was happening it
20:42was happening they was bringing they
20:43were bringing you huls from deleno all
20:45the way to Selenas I know one got busted
20:48the homie night out got busted driving
20:50one from deleno to San Jose uh NF member
20:54named Martin Martinez he was from Goan
20:56he got busted he set up like seven trap
20:58house houses and he was bringing drugs
20:59from Southern California all the way to
21:01Northern
21:02California um there's a family in velia
21:04the palominos they're well like
21:07indoctrinated into the dope game when it
21:09comes to heroin so they produce a lot of
21:11the heroin there was a tire shop in my
21:13town fundies they had a lot they moved a
21:17lot of dope behind that so there was the
21:18dope game that was really going on the
21:20homie booger that got busted he got life
21:23him and my uncle used to move a lot of
21:24dope from Washington up to
21:26California it that just wasn't my thing
21:29I was more like I rather do the drugs
21:30and sell the damn drugs I rather just go
21:32pick up a gun and rob somebody but dope
21:35sales is where they get most of their
21:37money from how often were you smoking
21:38meth during that time frame every day
21:41every day every day dude when I was once
21:43I hit that pipe when I was in ya and
21:45then I got out I was just hooked and I
21:48couldn't stop so being up three four
21:51days at a time with a pistol and then I
21:55had reasons to gang bang whether it was
21:56to shoot this house up burn this house
21:58down down or catch these dudes slipping
22:01or if an NF member or big homie at the
22:03time would tell me to go do this dude
22:05I'm already overly ambitious cuz I'm
22:06high off drugs where you didn't really
22:08have to tell me twice or convince me to
22:09do something I was just doing it the
22:12drugs took the toll on me the worst
22:14that's why I made so much mistakes in my
22:15life because I was just hooked on drugs
22:17whether it was sleeping with a homies
22:18old lady robbing the wrong person I've
22:21robbed old ladies and stole their purses
22:22when I was younger I made a lot of bad
22:25choices being on drugs and that's what
22:27got me more more heavily involved cuz I
22:29didn't really care the drugs didn't let
22:31me care did you have a death wish at
22:34that
22:34time I mean when my grandma passed away
22:37like I I a lot of people don't know
22:39about this I never talked about it on my
22:41channel but like I really wanted to end
22:42my life like my grandma was my
22:45everything and I didn't really have an
22:46important reason to live anymore so I
22:48yeah I was like I didn't even care I
22:51didn't care about getting shot I didn't
22:52care about dying I didn't care about
22:54nothing I figured if I die I'm going to
22:55take somebody with me I mean there
22:58southside of that put me at gunpo or
22:59Southsiders that beat me after death and
23:01I was just like whatever and I wake up
23:03the next day like I'm going to get my
23:04get backs it doesn't really help you
23:06change your mentality or or wake you up
23:08in this life like yeah bro I almost died
23:11last night I've been ran over by cars
23:13I've been ran I had a car hit me through
23:15a fence so much stuff has happened to me
23:18where you know the death was there why
23:20isn't it happened it didn't happen but
23:23it don't cross your mind when you're
23:24really out there the shootouts that I've
23:25been in with Southerners even with
23:27Northerners never crossed my mind like I
23:29could have died that night I just
23:30bounced back the next day smoked some
23:32dope and forgot all about it ran over by
23:34a car by a Tora or by an a man cuz I
23:37know these [ __ ] be crazy man n i
23:39don't thought do me that dirty bro uh oh
23:41I've been F I've been almost ran over I
23:43mean I met some toxic women out there
23:45toxic women that threaten to keep my car
23:47and throw salt in my gas tank I guess or
23:50sugar but n this one was um we seen some
23:54Southsiders outside of their house we
23:56did a we did a back and forth shooting
23:57that day and I got I got mad cuz I got
23:59shot with bug shots but he was so far
24:02away from me that the little Pebbles
24:03just burnt my face so I had all these
24:04little dots on my face from the Burns
24:07and I was mad so I went over there to
24:10with the gasoline and uh and 40 o
24:12bottles and I was going to burn it
24:14down and we we did not know there was a
24:17parked car right there we thought it was
24:18just a broken damn vehicle they were in
24:20there just chilling and they started the
24:22lights and me and the homie panicked the
24:24homie left me hanging he he jumped off
24:26the bike jumped the fence I went over
24:28the fence and then bam car hit me
24:30through the fence they backed up I got
24:33up and I limped and thank God somebody
24:35out of those apartment complexes there
24:36was three girls that knew who I was they
24:39were like oh hey how you doing and I
24:41just ran towards them limp and like let
24:42me in the house and then I wind up
24:44getting into with the homie because he
24:46left me hanging but yeah they hit me and
24:48they seen people come out and they just
24:49drove off they didn't shoot me thank God
24:51they didn't shoot me but yeah it was it
24:53was pretty much opposite it was
24:55Southerners from Wicked ass sud Daniel
24:56some Southsiders no at that time did you
24:58have aspirations to climb the chain of
25:00command within the
25:02organization nah not until I was 18 and
25:06when I was 18 when I really got involved
25:08with the politics even then I didn't
25:09know what I was signing up for the NF
25:11members presence was really big on the
25:13streets around that time where they were
25:15making us to become part of Northern
25:17structure I didn't know what I was
25:18signing up for I thought I was just
25:20going to be this goon that just shoot
25:22stuff down and you know earn a name kind
25:24of like you know arando Fus you know
25:26that kind of person I I wanted to do the
25:28Bloodshed I wanted to kill people I
25:29wanted to rob people I wanted to be
25:31known for that but when they gave me my
25:34status on the streets they didn't
25:36interpret what it was so I had a
25:38misconception that I was just a soldier
25:40but when I got to county jail and there
25:42was like nine admon there and they
25:44started showing me education what did I
25:46need to learn what was my growth what is
25:48my educational level need to look like
25:50what am I responsible for is when I
25:52realiz and counted jail
25:53like damn I signed over for something
25:55that I'm not really unsure I'm unsure of
25:57like I don't know what the hell this is
25:59what does this all mean and the more
26:01they expose me in County Jail the more I
26:02realize like I'm involved in something a
26:04hell of a lot bigger than just a street
26:07gang when you got to County Jail did the
26:12noros do their own strip out on you I
26:15say that because now I talked to
26:17sheriffs that work in Northern
26:18California like bro we strip them out
26:19they go in the tank then they strip out
26:21their own people make sure they ain't
26:22got no yeah um I guess you could say
26:25like law enforcement and correctional
26:27officers and county you know whatever
26:30facility you're working with you guys
26:32have a protocol on how to strip us out
26:35you guys don't know the hidden points
26:37that we do that where we hide stuff so
26:39yeah we get stripped out as well you got
26:42about 30 days to be under investigation
26:45to receive a a proper clearance to
26:47program with Northerners so until that
26:49day every time you come out your sale
26:51I'm going to make you strip down butt
26:52naked I'm going to check the areas that
26:54I know you're going to hide razor blades
26:56and weapons I'm going to make sure your
26:57s monit monitors you on the toilet so
26:59that way you're not hooping a weapon and
27:01yeah I'm going to make you walk with
27:02your hands out I'm going to keep your
27:03hands on the table if you even put your
27:05hands in your pocket that's an immediate
27:08threat we strip out in a way cuz we're
27:10going to check the boxers because we
27:12know where we hide stuff in the boxes we
27:13know where we hide stuff in the pants we
27:14know how to make secret Pockets those
27:17things sometimes a correction officer
27:18and a regular uh peace officer is going
27:20to miss we know how to find them so we
27:22have to get we have to get stripped out
27:23by our own people what about workout
27:25routine was it mandatory mandatory
27:27mandat you get a 3-day grace period when
27:29you go to county jail because we know
27:31everybody's coming off the streets all
27:33drugged out or eating good and being fat
27:36and chunky and Ain worked out a D in
27:37life but after them three days you
27:39better complete that workout or you will
27:41be disciplined until you complete that
27:43workout until group workouts or
27:44individual um in my County Jail we
27:47couldn't do group workouts because that
27:48would validate us so we had to do groups
27:50of two so it be you and a partner like
27:52two feet over you and another partner
27:54but we kind of work together without
27:56Administration or like knowing we're
27:58communicating but we look at each other
27:59down and we all go down we just kind of
28:01kind of separated just a little bit
28:03group routine workouts uh during my time
28:06in prison or was forbidden because that
28:08was a validation point to show that that
28:10that form of unity was displayed as you
28:13know gang unity and the IGI could
28:15validate us real easy for that so we had
28:17to keep that
28:19separate how many prison terms did you
28:21serve W just one one just one my ya they
28:25see on paperwork and cdcr they consider
28:27your ya term as a term cuz they got me
28:30down as a second termer but in reality I
28:32only been to prison once by ya term is
28:34something totally different what was
28:36your commitment offense that landed you
28:37in in prison uh second degree on
28:40robberies like a lot of them I confessed
28:43to five but I got uh charged with 19 uh
28:47gun enhancements I got caught with a
28:49shotgun Glock 17 a 38 special and a mini
28:5314 with a 30 round clip and then gang
28:56enhancement is one that got me the 10
28:57years
28:58so they hit you with the gang
29:00enhancement they hit you with the gun
29:01enhancement and then 19 freaking
29:03robberies yeah that's what they that's
29:05what they that's what they had on me but
29:07like I said I did I did a lot more stuff
29:09out there on the streets but now I I
29:11confess to
29:13five H how long how long was your court
29:16proceeding um nine months I took a deal
29:19did Witnesses show up and and say ask a
29:21dude right there no no no uh and it's
29:25crazy cuz I had maybe nine Witness
29:28including a confidential informant who
29:30dropped an anonymous tip that I was the
29:32one that was doing a lot of the
29:33robberies on behalf of the big homies
29:35none of them came forward and it's crazy
29:37in my paperwork that I still have at
29:39home I have a list of the names of the
29:41witnesses two of them happened to be
29:43Northerners that were Tweakers on the
29:44streets the rest of them were people at
29:46the scene of the crime that were by the
29:48scene of the crime that watch me run and
29:50watch me do this and none of them showed
29:53up for court at ultimately did you get
29:55caught in the act or did how did you get
29:57caught my codefendant told on me my
30:00codend they got caught doing something
30:01they told on me that makes sense and
30:03then I came out all over the news I got
30:05the copies of uh the news releases of my
30:08names in my face like at my paperwork at
30:10home and then they were just looking for
30:12me so I got caught in the midst of uh I
30:14was trying to do a home invasion that
30:16morning for for the big homies I was
30:18going to rob somebody so I can't I I was
30:20getting everything ready I had the guns
30:22on the bed the ski masks on the bed I
30:24had the gloves I was like all right
30:26we're going to hit this spot for the big
30:27homies
30:28I dropped my code I told my Cod
30:30defendant we were running a train on
30:31some girl or we were about to run a
30:33train on some girl but she was in my way
30:35and I was like Hey drop her off gave him
30:37my car drop her off and come back when
30:40he dropped her off he ran a red light
30:42cops came was chasing him and he decided
30:45to park in front of my house jump my
30:46fence and I seen him jumping my fence
30:48like the hell's this tweaker ass fool
30:50doing bro like he jumped my fence and
30:52then I heard a knock on the door like
30:53please get down and I was like damn this
30:55what the so I was going to shoot it out
30:57with the cops hella bad dude but the
31:00only reason is the woman I was with at
31:01the time her son was asleep on the couch
31:03so I didn't want to shoot the cops
31:04because the cop bent the corner and I
31:05already had the 30 round clip ready kind
31:08of saved my life a little bit CU I would
31:09have shoted out cops are better Shooters
31:11than me I would have probably died in
31:13the process but I was so drugged out
31:15that I just wanted to shoot the cops I
31:16didn't want to get caught that's how I
31:18really got caught how much time were you
31:21facing prior that ple do 30 life God
31:24damn dude 30 life and you know what's
31:26crazy is that the 30 life didn't scare
31:28me it really did and I was just kind of
31:30like the mentality I seen in County Jail
31:33where there's people facing life without
31:34for murders I was like though my crime
31:37ain't as severe as theirs so they they I
31:39shouldn't have to worry about none they
31:40have more to worry about than I do but
31:42once you start getting involved in
31:44politics and the removal aspects so
31:46where you killing your own people and
31:48you going to war we were going to war
31:49with the blacks like I forgot about it
31:52until my court day would come up then
31:54I'm like oh [ __ ] I'm facing 30 to life
31:56first deal was 27 years years I denied
31:58it then it was 20 years I denied it and
32:01because no Witnesses showed up and I was
32:03trying to fight to suppress any uh my
32:06admission to the robberies it was just
32:09kind of taking a toll whether they offer
32:10me hey you want 15 years I was like H
32:13yeah I take that 15 years did they give
32:15you more than one strike they gave me
32:18two strikes damn two strikes so I'm a
32:20two strike Fon so that's why I two
32:22strikes 15 years but now I'm thinking
32:25ahead you get caught with one weapon in
32:27prison in that's another strike they
32:29strike your ass out kind of but they
32:31didn't start picking up cases on weapons
32:33charges till maybe after
32:36200 10 or
32:382012 because I got Cobo weapons before
32:41and I didn't even get da referals and I
32:42had them in my bank I had them in
32:44probably the county that you were in cuz
32:46down south they were Prosecuting dudes
32:48sentinella calipat striking dudes out
32:50for possession of a weapon yeah um terer
32:53I mean this was in Kings County I was in
32:55Cork SV they weren't picking up nothing
32:58dude especially if you had life if you
33:00had life and you stabbed somebody the de
33:02wasn't picking it up so did you get the
33:03L or just 15 years I got 15 years and
33:06you thought to yourself what did you
33:07think oh that's cool I could do that I
33:09was like damn I can get my Boneyard
33:11visits bro hell yeah so that was like I
33:13saw that that's what I'm saying like I
33:14didn't really care I was 18 years old I
33:17I didn't really care that I was facing
33:18time like it didn't bother me 15 years
33:21it didn't look like two to a lot a lot
33:22of time a little bit of time it is
33:24that's all nothing it's 15 years 15
33:26years I was like cool 15 years I'll be
33:29out when I'm 32 n that's all I said and
33:31I it didn't bother me that's the part
33:33that I I kind of trip out on now that I
33:35think about it that I'm 37 I've been
33:37free for four years like like you didn't
33:40care back then about what the hell
33:41happened because once you go to prison
33:43bro like you're not worried about that
33:45release date I remember when I first
33:47walked into uh sad FC yard the homie
33:50shoots me at K hey bro we're going to
33:51war with the whites it's a half 60 right
33:53now we don't know we're waiting for
33:54solid dad or Solano to get at us I'm
33:57like all right so he gives me a banger
33:58and I was like well where are the whites
34:00at he's like your neighbors I was like
34:01all right I'm just going to stab these
34:03[ __ ] that's how fast it was
34:05easy for me to adjust like I don't care
34:06about my date I'm going to stab this
34:08dude next door because he's going to
34:09stab me but I remember there was a
34:11moment I sat there we were on lockdown
34:12we're on lockdown the first three or
34:14four months and it was just all you know
34:16how CDC are the lights are off it's dark
34:19it's gloomy it's quiet everybody's just
34:21in their cell and I was just sitting
34:22there
34:23like damn I got 13 more years to go damn
34:27like I felt it there was a point in time
34:29when I finally got there when I was like
34:3213 Years bro from here so had there
34:34already been an altercation between the
34:36white whites and the Northerners or they
34:39happened in I always forget this aspect
34:41people always tell me it wouldn't happen
34:43but it I believe it was a Solano but a
34:45white northerner got put in a white cell
34:47because he is labeled white but they
34:48didn't know he ran northerner so when
34:50they sell him up with a skin head a
34:52northerner can't refuse and a southerner
34:54can't refuse a men so they wind up going
34:56in there pulling out weapons while
34:57northerner got the best it kicked off on
34:59that yard so it started a Statewide uh
35:02Statewide war between the whites and the
35:04southerners I mean the whites and uh the
35:06Northerners and then I just left
35:08reception got there when we were on half
35:1060 so we're at war with the whites
35:12explain a half 60 to us a half 60 is
35:16when um Northerners are saying Get Ready
35:17for War a full 60 says we're going to
35:20war so in a half 60 that means we're not
35:22going to do workouts we're not going to
35:24uh Walk The Yards we're not going to
35:25play handball we're not going to do
35:26pull-ups we're not going to do nothing
35:28other than Patrol the yard in groups of
35:29three we're going to go to yard we're
35:31going to drop our weapons out our anal
35:33cavity and we're going to be prepared
35:35because in the event you see the yard
35:37post hat turn around backwards means
35:40full engagement go blast them so we're
35:42on half 60 but like I said we were on
35:44560 on a lockdown so there's really
35:46nothing we could do the doors don't open
35:48right well they open up my door and my
35:50neighbors's door asking us for showers
35:51and Them White Boys gave us the business
35:54they did they beat me in my S bad dud
35:56did they have weapons they didn't have
35:57weapons cuz we didn't know we didn't
35:59know that we were they were going to pop
36:01our doors out like when does the cop
36:02make that mistake really doesn't so we
36:04both we were getting ready for showers
36:07they were getting ready for showers so
36:09when our both our doors popped we all
36:10walked out with our shower rolls and our
36:12and our slippers like and we just seen
36:14each other like oh damn it's going to
36:16happen and we H it happened were those
36:17doors one that just pop and then the the
36:20inmate closes it or the one that the
36:21control Bo officer can open and close uh
36:23the one of the uh the open and close
36:26yeah so they open theirs say you guys
36:27want to come for shower they said yeah
36:29they're getting their stuff ready then
36:30ours open like you guys want ready for
36:32shower and I'm like yeah and but I
36:34didn't hear that their door had open
36:36when me and our s were doing something
36:37we had cl2s up we were bumping so when
36:39they opened up our door we're like
36:41what's up shower time all right we get
36:43our stuff and just simultaneously we
36:45both walked down we just looked at each
36:46other and them dudes I'll never forget
36:48that dude's tattoo on his back it said
36:51Aran resistance on his back hella big
36:53and did do was he had glasses ballhead
36:56huge country bed boy and that just beat
36:59the I think most of the time I was
37:01fighting just to defend myself I wasn't
37:02even fighting to win cuz their dudes
37:05were they were cornbread fed they were
37:06big boys they beat me and my C up pretty
37:10bad did you go to the hole for that went
37:12to the hole for uh two months and then
37:15we got released back because yard to the
37:17same yard to the same cells and it was
37:19just you know the tower cop missing up
37:22but what you already know when it comes
37:23to CDC they have a good way of just kind
37:25of like dead that issue throwing it away
37:27so we me and my we all four of us got
37:28lost of privileges 30 days and then my
37:32well not my the chain of command around
37:34that time was investigating me and I
37:35like why'd you guys engage on them I'm
37:38like I thought we're at War he's like no
37:40we're at half 60 I was like well their
37:42door popped open our door popped open
37:44and we had like a standoff like what did
37:46you expect us to do right the only
37:48reason that me and my S at the time
37:50didn't use weapons is cuz we have to
37:52have them hoop during the day yeah so I
37:55ain't dropping no weapon in a matter of
37:5620 second seconds like this dude's going
37:58to punch me by the time I'm dropping it
37:59so we just started fighting now what's
38:01the weapon of choice for an Oro a
38:03stabbing instrument or a slashing
38:05instrument in reception it's always
38:06going to be uh uh slashing instruments
38:09that's the best effective way you don't
38:11really get a hold of a lot of metal
38:13material but on level
38:15480s these I mean I always now that I
38:18think about it they were just
38:19ineffective weapons but it's just a V5
38:22bottle melted to a tip and use it with a
38:24box staple or a nail whatever we can get
38:27I even a paper clip I could sharpen it
38:29to a point but those weapons are only
38:31effective if they're not we if they're
38:34if they're not wearing clothes if
38:35they're wearing clothes bro I'm I'm
38:36artificial wounds artificial wounds I
38:38got to hit them nothing but the neck and
38:39the face just to even get some damage
38:41done what about homemade handcuff Keys
38:44oh the they're made out of um
38:47inhalers the ones that are do that the
38:49best are Southsiders to be honest with
38:51you because remember Northerners don't
38:52go to war with cops and I'm pretty sure
38:55throughout history I've never SE in my
38:57Prison history I've never seen
38:58Northerners even sanction green light on
39:00cops so there's no need to get out of
39:01the handcuffs the only time if we're
39:04going to war with the southerners which
39:06is most of the time getting out of the
39:08handcuffs like during uh Medical
39:10Services or you know whatever type of
39:13escorts but even then like Northerners
39:15didn't really promote getting out of the
39:16handcuffs like that because it's a
39:18breach of security I mean I'm secure
39:20with two cops escorting me I should be
39:22all right so I don't have to worry about
39:24being engaged by a southerner when I got
39:25two cops right here escorting me so
39:27there was nothing that we really even
39:29worried about well that's good to know
39:31man I mean yeah and I agree with that
39:35100% at that time was well [ __ ] at that
39:38time was the uh not the end of all
39:41hostility peace treaty at that time it
39:44was was it on site with the southerners
39:47no um before the end of hostilities took
39:50place it wasn't on site at all but it
39:53was were you guys programming together
39:55we programmed I programmed with
39:56Southerners and different prisons for a
39:57long time and I tell you what my
40:00mentality changed when you're up when
40:01you're back against the wall against a
40:03bunch of the southerners that all use
40:05knives that all have metal flats and
40:09Bone crushes that really kill inmates
40:11but the respect level we before the end
40:13of peace treaty is a lot different than
40:15what it is now I think the end of
40:18hostilities peace treaty they're more
40:20disrespectful to each other from all the
40:22stories that I've heard they're just
40:24able to get away with it because their
40:25big homies don't want them to go to war
40:27back then bro one sign of disrespect bro
40:29we're going to go to war so we kept
40:32everything at AAS how you doing much
40:35Gusto you need anything all right we
40:37didn't talk much we didn't engage in
40:39conversations we didn't have all these
40:40friendships and selling up with each
40:41other and busting spreads and drinking
40:43together it was that you stay on your
40:45side I stay on my side and if we go to
40:47war you already know what's up so I can
40:50confirm that as a result of the end of
40:53all hostilities the disrespect level on
40:56all races some more than others has has
41:00increased yes and it's because they know
41:03they're not going to get [ __ ] up yeah
41:04you don't know how many times I heard
41:06about you know Mexican mafia members
41:09punking Northerners out of a shower or
41:11showers talking smack to a I mean sum uh
41:13Northerners talking smack to a
41:14southerner through their doors while
41:16they're drunk and a lot of it gets you
41:19know swept under the rug until it
41:21becomes a serious matter then now it's
41:23you killing your own people them killing
41:24their own people back then dude if one
41:28sign of disrespect you're going to go to
41:30war so why even cross that boundary with
41:33an enemy when I'd rather keep them at a
41:35distance all that keep your enemies
41:37close concept does not apply in
41:39jail so you were general population GP
41:43level 4 180 yeah right majority of the
41:46time majority of that time at some point
41:48you went out of state yeah I went to I
41:51went to I dropped points after that uh
41:53the little fight cuz that fight only
41:55boosted me up four points the fight
41:57fights with the whites so I was still
41:59under after my annual came I was under
42:02just like by one point so they were like
42:04yeah we need the best space we're going
42:05to transfer you to Susanville I was in
42:07Susanville for about four to six months
42:09it kicked off with the uh blacks and
42:12then they decided to say all right the
42:13Northerners were responsible for this
42:15Riot we're going to send all the
42:16Northerners out of state got to Arizona
42:19real quick real quick did the
42:20administration ask you if you wanted to
42:21go out of state tell you you were going
42:23to go out of state n it was involuntary
42:25we had no choice did they give you a
42:27briefing like hey this is what's going
42:29on or just hey pack your [ __ ] you're out
42:32of here pack your stuff get on that bus
42:34we already had heard about out of states
42:36and that we were overpopulation of
42:38California prisons but we didn't think
42:40we're going to send Northerners and gang
42:41members over there we thought it was
42:42just going to be just regular Panos or
42:44dudes from the county that were
42:45overpopulated no they snatched us off
42:48the yard 60 of us took us to Arizona uh
42:51compound 3 by bus by bus from Susanville
42:54from Susanville that's [ __ ] high
42:56desert yeah High Desert area uh 8 hour
42:59drive and then we got there dropped us
43:02off had us
43:04segregated and that's when I probably
43:06seen the worst hell of My Life by
43:08Southerners they were [ __ ] in our
43:09food pissing in our food cuz they served
43:11they were already there prior so they
43:13were they were the kitchen workers so
43:14they were serving all the food we were
43:16isolated we were getting our food with
43:19dooky in it pissing it spitting it they
43:21were disrespecting us so we had a 602
43:25that we had a a hunger strike that we we
43:27had a stand like refuse to lock it up
43:29and get shot by uh paintball guns with
43:31pepper
43:32sprays everything bro to fight for our
43:34rights that and so they finally took the
43:36southerners out of the kitchen put
43:37regular
43:38individuals and it kicked off between us
43:41and the southerners what facility was it
43:44oh man what was it was it a private
43:45facility uh uh CCA corporate so I mean
43:49you you you're very familiar with
43:51California prisons the models how the
43:52doors work and stuff like that was it
43:54similar or was it like old school or
43:56different or janky
43:57what this it was plush dude the Sals
44:00were big the bunks were at the end of
44:02the wall modernized um I wouldn't say um
44:06what not modernized bro but like it was
44:08just like Disneyland the bunks on the
44:11bottom we had two Barracuda boxes the
44:13table was like towards the end of the
44:15bunk so we had a lot of space in the
44:17cells to do whatever we want like work
44:18out together go down together fight if
44:20you wanted to video games yeah we had
44:23Xboxes we had the man the ccas were more
44:26corrupt than California Peno systems to
44:28be honest with you to be honest with you
44:30we had plush we had Xboxes PlayStations
44:32we can get packages once a month we can
44:34go to canteen full draw every week once
44:37a week four times a month instead of
44:40like first draw second draw third draw
44:41we were going to store every week and
44:43then the cops alone right there were
44:45trying to make money so we were having
44:46sex with the cops bringing in phones
44:48with the cops sounding dope doing
44:50everything with the cops dude it was not
44:53even prison at that point no more could
44:54you tell the difference between a
44:56California CEO and one of those seals
44:58yeah because um when it kicked off
45:01between us and the South and we got into
45:03this big old Riot like they had no idea
45:06what North and South were and it was a
45:08trip that we had to explain it to them
45:10sometimes like they're from Southern
45:11California we're from Northern
45:12California two different colors two
45:14different gangs we go to war with each
45:16other they just seen a bunch of Mexicans
45:18jumping on each other so they were
45:20confused dude they were so confused that
45:22politics and they couldn't understand
45:24why we were fighting each other why we
45:26couldn't program
45:27and we're talking about one dude one
45:29female officer or male officer just with
45:31a little spray can and a pair of cuffs
45:34no tactical gear to protect themselves
45:36from getting stabbed they're just
45:38walking in with just regular pants a
45:40tucked in shirt and a little spray can
45:42and some handcuffs so every time we did
45:44a stabbing in that building man they
45:45would just run out the building and lock
45:46the door and just leave these victims to
45:47get butchered they didn't know what they
45:50were doing that had no idea what there
45:52was I've seen probably private
45:53Securities at the mall probably had more
45:55business than these guys damn
45:58it's unfortunate they put him in those
46:00predicaments yeah yeah private what
46:04private I mean yeah we bu to contracted
46:06out we
46:08contracted were you only in Arizona or
46:10did you go to another state from Arizona
46:12we had uh we were there for like eight
46:15months and then they packed us to send
46:17us to Oklahoma where we actually got the
46:19program of Southerners and we were all
46:22scattered everywhere so we had establish
46:24different CC's different forms of
46:25programming same thing
46:27cops were corrupt everybody has cell
46:30phones everybody's bringing in dope
46:31through the cops we're getting we were
46:33getting so much stuff mail to these cops
46:35over there in Oklahoma and they were
46:36bringing it in I think I watched one of
46:39your episodes where you said you got in
46:41trouble yourself because you were
46:42receiving two information one from the
46:43FED fact uh Factor faction and then from
46:46the state yeah um see what happened was
46:49these private uh companies these
46:52corporations they're barely getting
46:54established with California inmates now
46:56Southerners are faster at it than we are
46:58so when I get to Arizona I contact you
47:01know NF member bubbles before he gets
47:02indicted this is in 2008 bubbles gets
47:05indicted like in 2009 so we made contact
47:08with them and we're like hey like who do
47:09we report to he was like good question I
47:12don't know this is uh out of our
47:14jurisdiction now mind you the
47:16realignment filtered by the NF came out
47:18that we couldn't have no contacts with a
47:19list of NF members that were indicted in
47:21operation black window and were sent to
47:23the feds and these different Federal
47:24penal systems so NF remember that was a
47:27sleeper shows up he's like I can't
47:29expose what I'm here for but you know
47:31just I'm going to make I'm going to help
47:32you make contact so he gets uh a letter
47:35from some NF member from Arizona I don't
47:37even know this dude's name and I'm
47:38familiar with a lot of NF members names
47:41he's like yeah he's saying we got to
47:42report to him and I'm like how we
47:44California inmates this is still
47:45California jurisdiction just because
47:47we're in a private facility I'm not in
47:48Arizona Prison I'm in a private
47:50facility so that was the big debate so
47:54we get at Bubbles and Bubbles is like
47:55you ain't reporting to nobody in this
47:56the FED you're going to report to the
47:57state I'm just trying to figure out
47:58who's going to be the regiment Commander
48:00from California State Prison who you
48:02guys are going to report to don't worry
48:04about those dudes in the feds so I was
48:05like all right bubbles gets indicted by
48:08the time I go to Oklahoma
48:10so for about a good year and a half
48:13almost two years we didn't really report
48:14to nobody that was the biggest problem
48:17under my investigation is that I went
48:18freelance for two years without
48:20reporting but the thing is nobody
48:21provided me with information who to
48:22report to I'm not going to sit there and
48:25write just any caral and be like hey who
48:28do I report to when in in reality I was
48:30too busy setting up chains of commands I
48:32was over here drafting up weapons and
48:34Manufacturing weapons so the homies are
48:36secure but I think what we all got
48:38distracted with is that do we have so
48:40many cosos on the payroll man we're
48:42bringing in Dope by like streets
48:45quantities the hell we worried about
48:46writing a letter to an NF member we're
48:48just going to make the money and we'll
48:49send it to them when they're ready when
48:50they make contact we just got so busy
48:52with Xboxes and PlayStation and
48:54smuggling and having cell phones all day
48:56where I just totally forgot about that
48:58like they could figure that out when
48:59they get back to me they can get back to
49:00me so they alleged that you went rogue
49:02when you went out of state Rogue for two
49:04years and I had the money for him I
49:07blessed a couple once I got the uh C
49:09payroll which is a list of C's that uh
49:12we have to get money on their books too
49:13like $200 a month yeah I gave each and
49:16soul which is northel Sol what status
49:19yeah man you send him 200 bucks you send
49:21him 200 bucks so I my chain of command
49:23was obligated to send all these guys
49:25$200 now I wasn't supposed to keep it
49:28all documented because that's their
49:29obligation as being an inso yeah you
49:31take care of your business now whether
49:33they did or didn't probably bit me in
49:35the butt later on because these dudes
49:37are like where's all my money at I'm
49:39like bro what money these guys are
49:40supposed to send you money I didn't keep
49:42a log of it because I'm keeping logs of
49:44how many people we got stabbed that we
49:46stabbed how many Northerners got
49:47validated at the time what was going on
49:50how we established it how much money we
49:52were making is it a secure and safe
49:54environment I'm doing all that but I'm
49:56not really focused on getting receipts
49:58from all these guys and hey did you
50:00bless the big homie or not did you
50:02that's the obligation that's that comes
50:03from the cardino the C right so was
50:06there anybody with you that threw you
50:09under the bus or people that were out of
50:10state with you like yeah going against
50:13you my S did uh he reported
50:16me because at the time he was my
50:18oversight and he was the one working
50:20with that NF sleeper that got validated
50:22and all basically he said was like Hey
50:24you need the responsibility and the
50:26experience to take over these prisons
50:29become the authority in charge and
50:31establish your own facility I'm like
50:33okay he goes I've already did it so go
50:35ahead if you ever need help just let me
50:37know while everything that was taking
50:40place he was just jotting it down and
50:42he's the one that reported like hey he
50:43was the one making the money he was the
50:45one that was supposed to send you the
50:46money I was his oversight I outranked
50:48him but that was his obligation as a
50:50Authority and charge some reality he
50:52answers to me but because he just played
50:54the sideline he reported everything I
50:57think it was only because when I went
50:58back to California when I got caught
50:59with that weapon that's when they
51:01started really making contact and they
51:03were like hey bro you guys been gone for
51:05two years what's been happening the last
51:06two years or he was running the facility
51:08he's on his way back to California or
51:10what was he doing he was doing this he
51:11was doing that he was doing that all
51:12right where's our money you're going to
51:14have to talk to him so that's how it
51:16pretty much played out so when I got to
51:18California Meo investigation to did you
51:20touch down when you got back back to sfc
51:22yard back to sad FC yard the same place
51:25I started
51:27right back into another war zone who
51:29were they at war with
51:31Southerners Southerners I was like man
51:34dude like I got I had buzzer luck my
51:35whole prison time like every prison I
51:37went to was a riot or stabbing or now at
51:39that time had they already got into an
51:41altercation or it was brewing um I got
51:43there in November
51:452010 and
51:47then we did good until uh the the 20
51:52January
51:532011 and it kicked off of the
51:54southerners so we were on lock down for
51:566 months uh it was working there were um
52:00it was already from Keem Cobra that ran
52:01the yard they took his power D from
52:04kukamonga took his power removed that
52:06whole chain of command then we started
52:08programming with them again after they
52:09didn't stab four Northerners put all
52:12four of them on life support and then
52:14when we were going to retaliate and
52:16there was an NF member named Som he
52:18reached out to me and he got in contact
52:19and he's the one that linked me up to
52:20Mondo from NF he's from deleno he was
52:23like hey hold up before you guys go to
52:24war I'm like why
52:27and then they explained this whole story
52:29that they're in talks with dudy d is
52:31going to overthrow and tiet and he's
52:32going to clean up the house and he's
52:34going to he's going to like fix
52:36everything rectify the situation so they
52:38had their own little peace treaty talks
52:40back there so we didn't kick it off but
52:42I was ready to go to war so I let it
52:44happen and I seen I seen I seen the
52:46power that them dudes have yeah but that
52:48was back then when they were in the shoe
52:50who was in the shoe calling the shots
52:52for the north at that time this was
52:54Mondo Quinn was the regiment Commander
52:56but he didn't have three-way contact to
52:58the facility so the NF member Som who's
53:01actually now a Dropout he just recently
53:03dropped down he's in a TSU debriefing
53:05somad was the one that got at me through
53:07his wife his wife was Lisa from the bay
53:09no from corkran sho from Cork shoe so
53:12you got the north the North had dudes in
53:14corkran and in the bay correct yeah so
53:16but you guys were getting your Intel
53:18from corkran you got to remember like I
53:20said earlier Central Valley right
53:22corkran is responsible for it so sadf is
53:25in Kings County Central Valley so they
53:27report to corkran shoes so cork shoes
53:30that's where they get their money from
53:31correct and uh toi and Ry were at Corrin
53:34yeah corkrin too and they were beefing
53:36they went to war they took over each
53:37other's property and their that prison
53:40yard and some but on them were like we
53:43rather let them do it than us do it
53:45that's how I looked at it like we're
53:46just going to pass the buck so they
53:48established whatever it is that they
53:49established with Tudi from
53:51Cucamonga and then dude that was a
53:53tripped out day because I had already
53:55gotten some weird encounters with these
53:56guys but a southsider goes hey um he
53:59comes up to myel cuz he had
54:00communication with myel for a few years
54:02already he's like I got a kite for you
54:03guys' homie that runs a yard so my like
54:06yeah I'll get it to him where he's going
54:07real Mas was the one that was running it
54:09he goes yeah I'll get it to where he
54:10needs to go so the kite says Troy on it
54:13so we bust it
54:15open what it was is um they had
54:17everything scripted from a phone call
54:19that he had made to these guys to
54:22deliver to us and so we're reading a
54:25kite from thy a Mexican Mafia I remember
54:27the excitement me and my had were like
54:29oh [ __ ] we made it to the big leaves
54:30we're talking to a Mexican Mafia we're
54:32reading this kite and the way he phrased
54:34everything like me and my S were just
54:36serious for about two hours just like
54:38rereading the kite rereading the kite
54:39making sure we're not misinterpreting
54:41anything but he's like man you guys are
54:43more than welcome to pull up a chair at
54:44my table on my front porch with the
54:45lights on basically like anytime my
54:48door's open to communication if you ever
54:49want to get at me about anything that my
54:51people are doing you can go through me
54:53and he's like allow me to clean up the
54:55house and replace it with my own Messa
54:58I'm going to get rid of everybody that
54:59was responsible for putting your homies
55:00in the hospital and I'm like okay and
55:03then somebody I contacts us like hey
55:05just abide by the message that it be so
55:08I'm arguing with my like hey bro why the
55:10like we just seen four homies get
55:13airlifted on life support you know that
55:16they got stabbed bro they're going to
55:17want to see retaliation and we're
55:19supposed to just bite our tongue and let
55:20these dudes just take care of our Dirty
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55:41what we're only 18 deep and they're 120
55:44I was like isn't that what the cause is
55:45supposed to promote defend and protect
55:48this is our chance to defend our honor
55:50with our brothers and my son is like hey
55:52forood the big homie said chge so we had
55:54to let him clean up the house
55:57it left a bad that's when I started
55:58really questioning politics like why bro
56:01like when the hell do I need a Mexican
56:03Mafia member or a southern to do my
56:04dirty work that's what I'm here for I
56:06took the oath as a brother to retaliate
56:10on behalf of my brothers and my soldiers
56:12and people that I call my people and
56:14they weren't allowing me to do it that's
56:15when I started questioning a lot of
56:17stuff that's the first thing I hear
56:19about that but that's like a peace treat
56:21in itself like you said and the only
56:23thing I can think about is money money
56:25priority
56:27dope um well yeah you could say that
56:30because the next letter some I got to me
56:33was you know establishing uh production
56:35and revenue they needed to get money
56:37back there they were asking us to get
56:39them packages if there was any
56:40Northerners out there that were
56:41fortunate enough to provide a package
56:43and extra money and to start
56:46establishing a pipeline that was their
56:49main concern cuz at that time when I got
56:51there there was only two Northerners
56:53that were bringing in dope and only one
56:54of them had a phone so we we weren't
56:56making hundreds and thousands of dollars
56:58or even thousands of dollars they were
56:59probably making a couple hundred dollars
57:01around that time when I showed up it
57:02wasn't like out of state money we're
57:04making thousands of dollars weekly they
57:06weren't producing a lot of money yet so
57:09why why bend your rules and bend your
57:12honor and compromise your honor for a
57:14couple hundred bucks that even out of
57:15that couple hundred dollars that's being
57:16produced on this yard you're not getting
57:18none of that yet no I'm saying already
57:21not wanting his people to go to war
57:23because it'll be a lockdown lockdown
57:24equals no money
57:27right Dy sent you the freaking didy
57:30already had took over the yard from Ry
57:32right right right and then I just seen
57:34Southerner after Southerner after
57:36Southerner get smacked get their throats
57:38ripped bad dude like I seen it was the
57:41whole um OC car got removed well that's
57:43showing good faith then I mean if he's
57:45taken out his own yeah one of the one of
57:47the southerners got killed on the lower
57:48yard God damn dude they killed them like
57:51I just remember we were getting ready to
57:52go uh the yard and on the upper yard and
57:54they were like back on lock down I was
57:56like why they're like I Southern just
57:57kill some fool on one block I was like
57:59all right again guess so as a noro
58:02technically the enemy of a surel what
58:05kind of feelings goes through your mind
58:06when you're watching them butcher their
58:08own um when I'm my first remov I seen
58:11from a
58:11southerner was in
58:152007
58:17and yeah I was like bro all that stuff I
58:20used to talk about these guys like they
58:22ain't nothing they ain't crap they I had
58:24used to have them on a run we used to
58:25gun them down chase him down yeah I seen
58:28three of them stab a native blasted
58:31somebody from another car and they
58:32butchered this dude in the day
58:34room was a reminder cuz my C was one of
58:36those cies that had all the gun CS all
58:39the noro music and he was just hardcore
58:42northel f a southerner this F a
58:44southerner that but when we seen that I
58:46was like bro we ain't just playing with
58:47no regular dudes like from terer County
58:50these guys are really murderers bro and
58:52seeing that native get butchered like
58:54that with no remorse they didn't hold
58:56nothing back they shove some of the
58:57biggest knives I've seen in this dude's
58:59body I took it serious after that so
59:02seeing all these dudes get butchered
59:04from D's angle I was like bro you can't
59:08underestimate your opponent ever not
59:10just that they do not stop even when the
59:12seal are spraying them with pepper spray
59:14shooting them with a 40 hitting them
59:16with baton that kind of leaves a
59:18impression like [ __ ] man [ __ ]
59:20don't stop they don't bro like their
59:23their policies are a little bit
59:24different and look at I think the vast
59:26majority of the murders this year alone
59:28have been by our Southern
59:30Hispanics so they're the ones doing the
59:32most murders and the most killings and
59:34Northerners do it once in the blue moon
59:36but like I said they I think they're a
59:38force to be reckoned with because of
59:40their numbers and a lot of them do is go
59:42to prison with life bro they ain't got
59:43nothing to lose no more and they're
59:45they're more inspirational in a sense
59:47where they want to be the next big homie
59:49so they they want blood on their hands
59:51more than anybody so this so this time
59:53we we talking about you guys were on the
59:55verge of a war war with the South and
59:57were you under investigation yourself at
59:58this time yeah I was being questioned
1:00:01but communication back then with no cell
1:00:02phone was very limited so I'd have to
1:00:04wait for a letter try to code a letter
1:00:07answer questions really briefly as
1:00:09possible once in a while somebody from
1:00:11Cork sh would come out bring a bundle of
1:00:13a list of questions here are the facts
1:00:15here's your allegations can you
1:00:17communicate back a northerner would be
1:00:19going to the hole so I put him with a
1:00:21bundle and send it back answer the
1:00:22question so the communication was taken
1:00:24about all the way up in until July of
1:00:272012 like over a year and how were you
1:00:29feeling during that time were you
1:00:30feeling uncomfortable comfortable
1:00:32annoyed that you haven't answer so many
1:00:35questions it's because it all the
1:00:37question always came down to this where
1:00:40did all that money go and I was like bro
1:00:42you're not asking me about the north
1:00:44danels that I deem no good in that
1:00:46facility you're not asking me how the
1:00:48north danels were doing you're not
1:00:49asking me what the establishment looks
1:00:52like how we establish it is it a strong
1:00:53foot is it a foothold you're not asking
1:00:55me nothing other than where did the
1:00:58money go how come we didn't get this
1:01:00amount of money how much money were you
1:01:02producing why the hell does that matter
1:01:04they only asked the only other question
1:01:05they were adamant about was how come you
1:01:07were able to get 43 Northerners
1:01:09validated I was like because I let them
1:01:11get northerner tattoos I didn't give a
1:01:13[ __ ] like f Administration bro like
1:01:16you're letting these dudes dictate every
1:01:18aspect of Our Lives that we're starting
1:01:19to lose our identity because we have to
1:01:21change everything that we do as a
1:01:23northerner when we're defined as a
1:01:24movement not a prison gang but since you
1:01:26guys started Us in prison we're paying
1:01:28for those repercussions every single
1:01:29year when the administration decides to
1:01:31draft up something new to isolate us to
1:01:34solid put us in solidary confinement I'm
1:01:37tired of it like the homie could be
1:01:38proud to be a northel the homie could be
1:01:40proud to represent that star represent
1:01:41that 14 why not we're in out of state
1:01:43that that shouldn't apply to us but it
1:01:45did because just like we were California
1:01:49residents and under California
1:01:50jurisdiction IGI was jurisdiction over
1:01:53there so they came swooped in like oh
1:01:54you guys got fresh tattoos validation
1:01:56validation that was the other question
1:01:59but like I said when it takes so long to
1:02:01communicate I would answer get it to
1:02:03where it was going and I forget about it
1:02:05because I'm I'm watching Southerners get
1:02:07killed almost every month or get removed
1:02:10I'm trying to establish communication
1:02:12with them to keep them in line like so
1:02:14they don't bug us but in reality so much
1:02:17was going on at that prison that they
1:02:18don't know about that I haven't talked
1:02:20about yet or dude like every day I felt
1:02:22like I was going to go to war every day
1:02:24I felt like I had to stab one of my own
1:02:26I had to worry about my own every day
1:02:28them doors could have cracked and
1:02:29something unexpected was going to happen
1:02:30I was too focused on securing my
1:02:32establishment then where I didn't really
1:02:34care about how they really felt I really
1:02:36didn't you would eventually make your
1:02:39way to SNY sensitive needs
1:02:41yard was that in that period or did some
1:02:45stuff transpire prior to that uh a lot
1:02:47of stuff transpired after that um we
1:02:50went to war again with the southerners
1:02:51and Northerners and um somehow some way
1:02:55way that became my fault even though I
1:02:58was the second in command and my my was
1:03:00the authority in charge but in
1:03:03reality I was I was just neglecting the
1:03:06investigation that I wasn't reporting
1:03:08why we went to war because I didn't have
1:03:10enough time to we went to war we went on
1:03:12lockdown plain and simple well my was
1:03:15the one that made the decision to say
1:03:16hey man he's the one that made the shot
1:03:17he's my in-house security I'm the
1:03:19authority in charge I'm only responsible
1:03:21for this responsible for that he took
1:03:23the initiative to do it and I'm like
1:03:25reality bro that's your decision I told
1:03:27you about it you just said go ahead and
1:03:30I said all right let's go and we went to
1:03:31war with the southerners because they
1:03:33were just doing grimy stuff that I
1:03:35didn't I didn't want to tell thy about
1:03:37they were just burning homies they were
1:03:39throwing weapons underneath the homie
1:03:40cells they were getting homies caught up
1:03:42for Bull craap and they were getting
1:03:44away with it I got caught with one of
1:03:46their cell phones and they try to hold
1:03:48me accountable for it I was like hell no
1:03:51like these dudes think they can just
1:03:52Punk us now just because we didn't go to
1:03:53war with them before because they
1:03:54stabbed four homies hell no so he went
1:03:57to war again during that war a homie
1:03:59from San Jose got paralyzed from his
1:04:01ways down and I got held accountable for
1:04:03that but in reality they just
1:04:05Southerners booked him while he was
1:04:06during escort so he got paralyzed I mean
1:04:08he couldn't defend himself he's in waste
1:04:09chain Southerners booked the cops moved
1:04:11the cops out the way booked him and I
1:04:14got held out I got held accountable for
1:04:16all that as well as the investigation
1:04:18reaching the conclusion that he's not
1:04:19responding he's not giving us all the
1:04:21answers we want he's not telling us
1:04:23where the money went it all just bundled
1:04:25into the one and my S raised his hand to
1:04:27take care of business and I was like all
1:04:29right like I I just felt after a while
1:04:31like they were just getting tired of my
1:04:33crap because I wasn't telling them where
1:04:35the money went and in reality I didn't
1:04:36have an answer for him I was like bro we
1:04:38have money there reach out to Arizona or
1:04:40reach out to Oklahoma and get the money
1:04:42that's there I left with this amount of
1:04:43money and this amount of the household
1:04:45bank and these other North danels that
1:04:47were responsible for taking care of
1:04:48these caralis now whether they shot the
1:04:49money or not I don't know they just were
1:04:52adamant about where's their money
1:04:53where's their money and at that time I
1:04:55wasn't producing money for them so I was
1:04:57keeping these dudes starving and broke
1:04:59and I think like I said I think they
1:05:00just got fed up with it after a while
1:05:03and they ultimately chose your Sally to
1:05:04take you out nah my Sally raised his
1:05:06hand for it cuz my I allowed my Sally to
1:05:09establish communication with some but I
1:05:11saw I didn't have to do it no more
1:05:12because I was tired of writing the
1:05:13letters and tired of you know redrafting
1:05:16codes for them and sending them to Cork
1:05:17I was like here you you're the authority
1:05:19in charge this is not my responsibility
1:05:21but in accordance to the chain of
1:05:23command position it is my respons
1:05:25responsibility to communicate with the
1:05:26back my authority in charge pos position
1:05:29that myel is in he's supposed to be
1:05:31quiet he just makes a decision if a noro
1:05:33has to go if we have to go to war be in
1:05:36contact with the NF establish Street
1:05:38regimen contacts and just make sure I'm
1:05:40doing everything right so I'm play as
1:05:41his buffer so to speak but it was my C's
1:05:44decision so when my C started
1:05:45communicate with them they had their
1:05:46little Communications we went on
1:05:48lockdown and sure enough my was like
1:05:51I'll blast this fool because they were
1:05:53like bro he got to go already
1:05:55what time of the day did you get blasted
1:05:57morning no it was uh after count time 2
1:06:02o' count so it was like we're doing
1:06:03showers again they were doing uh a
1:06:05modified lockdown showers and that's
1:06:08when he decided to remove me it was
1:06:09crazy cuz we just did mail call and I
1:06:11was writing a letter and then the cops
1:06:14remov you from the sale cops remov me
1:06:15from the sale took me to the uh I was in
1:06:18this was in C-section at the time so you
1:06:19know on C-section to your left is the
1:06:21cafeteria like the the the where you go
1:06:24to go eat when nobody uses
1:06:26and that's where they put me right there
1:06:28blood everywhere that scored me to
1:06:30Medical I got the Staples on the top of
1:06:32my head my lips and escorted me to the
1:06:34hole trying to get me to get information
1:06:37out of me and I was just denying it
1:06:38denying it like bro nothing happened bro
1:06:40this is a burpee routine and they just
1:06:42laughed at me they just knew I was full
1:06:43of crap and there's nothing I could do
1:06:46asking me questions and I remember the
1:06:48sergeant was like bro I've never seen a
1:06:49bur routine like that happened like he
1:06:51just he knew I was full of crap just
1:06:54wasn't ready to give it up just yet
1:06:56so you didn't so you didn't give it up
1:06:57then no I stood on the investigation for
1:06:59about eight months then I went back and
1:07:02hold up hold up hold up you got hit and
1:07:05did they go did you go to the hole as a
1:07:06victim of a battery went went under
1:07:08investigation as a victim of a battery
1:07:10no weapons were found because me and my
1:07:12flushed him and uh he didn't say
1:07:14anything I didn't say anything so it
1:07:15looked like a mutual combat fight and
1:07:17you said send me back I said send me
1:07:19back but I had to go to classification
1:07:20first and you know classification Warden
1:07:22and all that they ask you all those
1:07:24series of questions IG is right there
1:07:26like sure you want to go back right I'm
1:07:28like but see there's there's occasions
1:07:30where IGI will receive information like
1:07:32hey you're we got a kite that you're
1:07:33deem no good we can't send you back
1:07:35there was nothing that was confiscated
1:07:37here so they sent me but they but you
1:07:39got hit I got hit but they don't know I
1:07:41got hit I said I didn't say I got hit
1:07:43but you got hit the cops are not dumb
1:07:45yeah the cops are not it's probably not
1:07:47a good idea for you to go back in in but
1:07:50I I know politics I know I know that
1:07:53certain things you know you you got
1:07:54Redemption there's room for Redemption
1:07:56and I know my people they'll investigate
1:07:58it an NF member will approve it and NF
1:08:00member just strip me of my status and
1:08:02say you can no longer have status as
1:08:04long as you're in the penal system and
1:08:05I'll go back to being a foot soldier is
1:08:07that what happened no what happened I
1:08:09went back to the cell and as uh they
1:08:11escorted me to a different cell not that
1:08:12one in particular to a different
1:08:13building where there was other
1:08:14Northerners there and soon as I got up
1:08:17to the door and they opened up the door
1:08:18me and my C started getting down and he
1:08:20was a bigger boy so I couldn't I
1:08:22couldn't take that fight so I was
1:08:23getting pretty whooped on top tier I
1:08:26fell and when I fell I grabbed a hold of
1:08:28the bar you know how there's two bars on
1:08:30the top tier like the rails I grabbed a
1:08:32hold of it cuz I was afraid I was going
1:08:33to get thrown off it and he pretty much
1:08:35beat me till we got sprayed and then
1:08:36when I went back that's when IGI and the
1:08:39Wen was like we knew it was going to
1:08:42happen so we we'll see you at committee
1:08:44so I waited seven days went to committee
1:08:46and that's when I was already
1:08:47discouraged like cuz I remember I was in
1:08:50the hole for like almost eight months
1:08:52before I went back before Administration
1:08:53and a warden let me back
1:08:56I was already talking to the north anels
1:08:57back there including myel that removed
1:08:59me he got validated and I was like do I
1:09:02got a chance and one of the Northerners
1:09:04was
1:09:05like nah you don't got a chance bro to
1:09:07be honest with you it's over for you I
1:09:09tried didn't work so I was already
1:09:10discouraged so that's when I went to
1:09:12comitan the next seven days and I was
1:09:13like I just spoke up and I was like he
1:09:15yeah I'm done I'm done with the politics
1:09:17they were like so you're willing to
1:09:18disassociate from the gang I'm like yeah
1:09:20you willing to sign this Crono Kronos
1:09:22what year was this 2012
1:09:25okay and you got to sign that Chrono to
1:09:27relinquish your Mainline status go in
1:09:29wide and you got to sign that part where
1:09:31it says you'll never you won't join a
1:09:33what is it called SNY gang if you go
1:09:35there yeah but I I was like where you
1:09:37from and I'm like to Larry County he was
1:09:39like yeah you'll be a norn rider you'll
1:09:41be a nor Rider so they transferred from
1:09:42me to CR to Dr now where IGI and ISU
1:09:45trying to press you for information yeah
1:09:46all the time all the time um didn't give
1:09:49them no information were they good at
1:09:50what they did some people got the gift
1:09:52of the gab you know what I mean and know
1:09:54how to talk no they what they were doing
1:09:56is they were trying they were coming up
1:09:57to me with these confiscated letters
1:09:59right not the actual letter per se it
1:10:01was uh you know how you like grab a
1:10:03letter and you like scan it so it's like
1:10:05black and white you scan it on the
1:10:06printer and they were like hey who's
1:10:08Elizabeth who's Christine and those were
1:10:11the coded messages that the NF utilized
1:10:14to pretend like their wives
1:10:15communicating yeah but these fols the
1:10:17communication was all the General
1:10:19Hospital names of the [ __ ] TV show
1:10:21they watched it was all their names all
1:10:23the women's names in that show were
1:10:24different coded names of different NF
1:10:26members communicating to the thing so
1:10:28they're like who's that did Mondo is
1:10:30this Mondo right here and I was likeo I
1:10:32got nothing to say bro like I you know I
1:10:34[ __ ] locked it up like what more do
1:10:35you want from me bro there's nothing
1:10:37that they so they were always trying to
1:10:38get like what's those letters were about
1:10:41because the coded messages how we were
1:10:43utilizing the codes to communicate then
1:10:46they transferred me to uh I don't really
1:10:47think they really wanted anything from
1:10:49me I think they had everything they
1:10:50needed on Mondo that's who they were
1:10:52investigating cuz that's all they were
1:10:53questioning me about was Mondo this m
1:10:55where was Mondo in Cork Mondo was in
1:10:56Cork sh so then you went from C you said
1:10:59which was GP to D Delta which is was SNY
1:11:03yeah what was that SNY level four uh one
1:11:06level four
1:11:07270 dude now tell me Tell the audience
1:11:11bro you get to a SNY when you look
1:11:13around is it can you already tell you're
1:11:15not in Kansas anymore yeah bro like
1:11:18start seeing good dudes with
1:11:22titties no I didn't see that just yet I
1:11:24didn't see that just yet um I seen uh a
1:11:28gang of two fers a gang of two fers my S
1:11:30was a two when I walked in he was from
1:11:32Fontana and I was like so I thought he
1:11:34was a southerner but and I I wasn't
1:11:37aware that they were going to sell me up
1:11:38with Southerners they didn't see the I I
1:11:40didn't tell me nothing like that the
1:11:42administration the warden was like Hey
1:11:43we're going to sell you up with anybody
1:11:45well SN Y and that's the way that green
1:11:47CDC looks at s y is s y that's the way
1:11:50they look at it but you mean as
1:11:53mainliners we don't know small bits of
1:11:56information about what the SNY looks
1:11:57like we know about the the SNY gangs and
1:12:00we know there was tros and pedos on the
1:12:02yard that's all we know so when I went
1:12:04over there I'm oblivious to everything
1:12:05so I get sell up with a southerner who's
1:12:07bangs on me like a Souther like hey
1:12:08homie what's up fo where you from I'm
1:12:10like I see his tattoos three dots I'm
1:12:13like hell no you ain't selling me up
1:12:15this fo what the hell so we started
1:12:16talking he was like I'm 25 I'm like what
1:12:19is that and he explains it all to me I'm
1:12:21like so you're a SEL and he's like no
1:12:24I'm not he's like no I'm not I'm like
1:12:27you're a southerner and you're all
1:12:29Southern all your homies are Southerners
1:12:30let make you guys Southerners he was
1:12:32like we're Ain Southerners bro after SW
1:12:34wo W I'm like I'm so confused bro I'm
1:12:37really so confused right now so I was
1:12:38just selling for a little bit uh my
1:12:40neighbors were sa the sty I seen him do
1:12:43a removal like ASAP I seen the two
1:12:45fibers do removals and I was like hey
1:12:47but at the time I'm I'm I'm I'm trying
1:12:49to get at like are you seeing dudes on
1:12:50the day room barefooted [ __ ]
1:12:53laying down on the on the on the yard
1:12:54like they're sunbathing and I say that
1:12:56man because maybe the yrs at Donovan are
1:12:59wild man I seen that on the SNY level
1:13:02three yeah not on the level fours not on
1:13:04the level fours see I oh yeah I have
1:13:06worked the level four S and Y but even
1:13:08that was off the hook man no I didn't
1:13:10see sounds to me where you at was still
1:13:12structured yeah it was structured
1:13:13because the gangs controlled everything
1:13:16the two fers are like 50d damn the sapaa
1:13:19they had just started they were already
1:13:2220 deep the northern Riders were like 30
1:13:24deep Snoop had just left there so they
1:13:27had the yard really orchestrated in a
1:13:30certain way where certain pull-up bars
1:13:31certain tables belong to certain SNY
1:13:34like the northern Riders were by I think
1:13:36it's four block or five block they're by
1:13:38no five block they had their own table
1:13:40they had their own pull the bars the two
1:13:42F the S about the Styles and then the
1:13:43blacks had theirs and then everybody
1:13:45else just kind of walked the track you
1:13:46really couldn't use nothing and it's a
1:13:49trip of How It's divided and structured
1:13:52the way it was the politics were just
1:13:54the same like the main lines the
1:13:55communication don't cross boundaries the
1:13:57levels of
1:13:58respect dude I don't know if that's
1:14:00because it was that year 2012 or that
1:14:03location that prison because I don't
1:14:04[ __ ] you fast forward in time it's it's
1:14:06it's a free-for all dude yeah it's a
1:14:08free-for-all now because the the gam got
1:14:11so big but this was around remember
1:14:13Northern rouers didn't come to SNY till
1:14:152008 so this is 2012 they've only been
1:14:18there four years establishing three
1:14:20prisons the two F has been established
1:14:21since 99 so so right off the top was
1:14:24there more dope on the accessible on the
1:14:26GP or on the SNY well because on the
1:14:30main lines we didn't indulge like that I
1:14:32don't I can't speak on a southern
1:14:33faction CU them foods are always strung
1:14:35out on dope but dude I I ever see people
1:14:38in the day room on the SNY with a spoon
1:14:40in the middle of it and like four people
1:14:41using the same syring slamming cops not
1:14:43even watching yeah dude I was I seen my
1:14:45S come back with a paper every day from
1:14:48school like a fat 50 paper there was so
1:14:50much dope on the SNY it's it's
1:14:52ridiculous the free-for-all that goes on
1:14:54when it com comes to the drug
1:14:56game there I became an addict bad now
1:15:00were dudes doing scanless things on the
1:15:02SN yard yeah yeah we were running in
1:15:05people's uh celles stealing their
1:15:07property stealing their canteen when I
1:15:09got hooked on drugs there and sat if
1:15:11that's what I would do I wait for people
1:15:12to go to um medical because you know
1:15:14open doors 270 you can like the door
1:15:16opens and just you can shut it on your
1:15:17own right I go in there take his food
1:15:19take his property take his cell phones
1:15:21now you mentioned to me there was some
1:15:23type of structure and some type of um
1:15:25politics how are you able to do this
1:15:28type of behavior with that because we're
1:15:32not doing it to SNY gangs we're doing it
1:15:33to regular non people oh so we're doing
1:15:36it to non Affiliates we're extorting non
1:15:38Affiliates we'll Target the blacks cuz
1:15:39the blacks were structure we're Target
1:15:41the Asians we'll Target regular Mexicans
1:15:43that get in debt to us regular if we
1:15:47wouldn't do it to each other because you
1:15:48know obviously it was inside a gang war
1:15:50so would it suck to be a non-affiliate
1:15:52on one of those yards back then yeah but
1:15:54now
1:15:55like non- Affiliates now are actually
1:15:57they're really blasting two fibers
1:15:59they're blasting Sall these sty they
1:16:00actually form together now where I guess
1:16:02stories from current Valley left and
1:16:04right uh just the other day I haven't
1:16:06even talked about it on on YouTube yet
1:16:08I'll tell you guys about it here the two
1:16:10fers got transferred from to Hatchet
1:16:12they're no longer into Hatchet they got
1:16:14transferred to Kern Valley Eight block
1:16:16on D yard and it's eight and seven has
1:16:18the sapati stas and then the middle yard
1:16:20has some level ones level twos well they
1:16:22released the gates for education and all
1:16:25the non Affiliates from one and four
1:16:26block rushed all the two firers started
1:16:28stabbing all the two fers because
1:16:29they're just tired of the extortion
1:16:30tactics just recently happened it was a
1:16:3250 Man
1:16:34Riot back then know Atlanta affiliat
1:16:37weren't really having a heart or
1:16:39dedication to really defend themselves
1:16:41like they do today because back then we
1:16:43were just punking everything if you
1:16:44weren't a northern Rider an independent
1:16:46Rider s Batista
1:16:48two I didn't have no respect for you
1:16:50nobody did you were a non-affiliate
1:16:52person that you can get took advantage
1:16:53of and nobody's going to be there to
1:16:55defend you cuz you're not going to
1:16:56defend yourself b in a great while
1:16:58you'll see a non affiliate step up and
1:16:59get beat up but most of the time everyy
1:17:03gangs they're doing they're doing all
1:17:04the
1:17:04jumping so is it in the best interest of
1:17:07a non-affiliate to join a a gang uh I
1:17:11say uh from when I got there 2012 up
1:17:14until
1:17:162017 it was wise too it was wise too but
1:17:20like I said after 2017 is when ATF
1:17:22started which is against 25 once they
1:17:25led the example and they banded together
1:17:27with all these non-affiliates and
1:17:28started blasting two fers it sent the
1:17:31clear message that hey these these these
1:17:33SN gang members can get hit too and they
1:17:35started they fight back so that was the
1:17:37scanic behavior you were talking about
1:17:38getting high on [ __ ] dope running
1:17:40into [ __ ] non affiliate sales jacking
1:17:42their [ __ ] where you slapping
1:17:43[ __ ] around the whole U me and
1:17:45my S D me and my S were s batia we were
1:17:48doing that when we were get on drugs but
1:17:49you'll see that a lot you'll see a lot
1:17:51of people get punked get uh extorted get
1:17:54threatened and he let me ask you about
1:17:56this real quick drug debts drug debts on
1:17:58an s in y yard you ever see
1:17:59[ __ ] just get high ring up a
1:18:01drug Deb and bounce all the time they
1:18:03locked it up on me they would lock it up
1:18:04on SAA thas two F that's the best
1:18:07because it's weird right now you don't
1:18:10see prison Administration really
1:18:12acknowledging like if somebody wants to
1:18:13lock it up and disassociate from the
1:18:15gang but on the SNY you could literally
1:18:17go up to people and just go up to the
1:18:19administration be like hey I got to go
1:18:20man I a drug debt to this dude they
1:18:22going to kill me all right we got you
1:18:24who is it all right they'll go tell
1:18:26igigi hey man this fool owes this guy a
1:18:28bunch of money he's going to lock it up
1:18:30so IGI will go Target this dude put him
1:18:32on investigation and put this dude
1:18:34wherever he wants to be at just gets
1:18:37transferred wherever he wants to go so
1:18:39they were favoring victims on the
1:18:42SNY they didn't really care bro like
1:18:45people were locking it up left and right
1:18:46just to go to certain yards right say if
1:18:48you say if you wanted to go to a level
1:18:49three cuz your family lives in that area
1:18:52lock it up but I want to know from your
1:18:55perspective I mean from a CO's
1:18:57perspective it's annoying it's annoying
1:19:00having to lock these dudes up that have
1:19:02a consistent past of ringing up drug de
1:19:04and bouncing I want to know from your
1:19:06perspective somebody basically robbing
1:19:09you guys uh they would get greenlighted
1:19:12you feel angry towards that person no
1:19:14you you really can't get mad cuz we're
1:19:16all there locked we all locked it up at
1:19:18some point kind of pisses you off
1:19:20because you you know you kind of
1:19:22counting that money but it's it's part
1:19:24of the business like on the mainline
1:19:26yeah it's more like oh damn this fo
1:19:28locked it up we ain't never going to see
1:19:29this again bro that fool can lock it up
1:19:31all he wants I'll see him in like five
1:19:32years or I'll see him in three years and
1:19:34my boys will see him where did he go
1:19:36because I can I can easily talk to
1:19:37somebody that works the program office
1:19:39like hey man can you see the transfer
1:19:40list and where this m went oh man he
1:19:41went to K Valley cool shoot my boys a
1:19:44letter hey man if this dude gets here
1:19:46his name is CDC he owed me money take it
1:19:49or beat him up and then I would get KS
1:19:51like that where I can walk cuz you know
1:19:52how they have the pictures on the doors
1:19:54you know yeah
1:19:55ident I'm looking at doors okay name see
1:19:58oh this is this right here hey bro you
1:20:00such and such okay you onow my boy money
1:20:02blast him it's real easy to get a hold
1:20:04of somebody ony so right now the
1:20:07generation we're talking about the time
1:20:09frame is when there was handwritten
1:20:11kites Little
1:20:12Wheel
1:20:14uh transfer you're asking the co where
1:20:16did this full transfer to but fast
1:20:18forward to
1:20:202024 there's [ __ ] cell phones on
1:20:22every yard cell phones in every cell
1:20:25you got the inmate locator website on uh
1:20:28cdcr you got Megan's Law how much more
1:20:31dangerous or faster is it for these
1:20:33inmates to be in possession of
1:20:35information instantly bro I mean if
1:20:38anybody that watches my YouTube channel
1:20:40I get all my information from prison and
1:20:42these are dudes that have phones that
1:20:44are contacting me on the H like
1:20:46underneath their bunk or something it's
1:20:48far more dangerous it's far more
1:20:51effective and all Administration did was
1:20:54play into them the hands of these prison
1:20:55gang leaders like you just gave these
1:20:57dudes the World by allowing them to be
1:20:59released by allowing them to get access
1:21:01to these phones and you know these guys
1:21:03all have possessed phones there's so
1:21:05much phones on that yard now and you
1:21:06know what they're capable of doing with
1:21:08those
1:21:08phones Communications easy now they're
1:21:11communicate they're having conference
1:21:12calls where you got five different
1:21:13prisons five different gang leaders in
1:21:15different locations in the state of
1:21:17California all on the phone together
1:21:19sharing information it just got way more
1:21:22dangerous now and all they did was play
1:21:23right into the hands of these
1:21:25organizations that probably causing the
1:21:27most violence right now as we
1:21:29speak from your
1:21:32perspective why do you think cdcr
1:21:34Administration did that their motive
1:21:37their angle their thought process from
1:21:38your perspective I don't think they had
1:21:40a choice cuz I seen a lot of the protest
1:21:42that the cdcr the correctional officers
1:21:44were having with Sacramento and I
1:21:46remember seeing this video it was a
1:21:47woman that worked Correctional and she
1:21:50was like see all you guys didn't come
1:21:52and sign and speak up on behalf of your
1:21:55loved ones now look at them you guys are
1:21:57doing non-designated yards and they're
1:21:59releasing all these dudes it wasn't
1:22:01administration's fault it was the courts
1:22:04what it is is these guys sat there for
1:22:0620 30 years and figured out how the way
1:22:08to manipulate the system as they always
1:22:09done and they utilize the court system
1:22:12to really beat them
1:22:14Administration I think they just utiliz
1:22:16the solitary confinement and
1:22:17indeterminate suo to they thought that
1:22:18was going to be effective till the end
1:22:20of time they weren't drafting up new
1:22:22measures on how to really keep these
1:22:24dudes isolated and restricted of their
1:22:25power until they lost and now they have
1:22:28no choice but to abide by it you're 100%
1:22:31correct it was the courts federally
1:22:33court ordered uh ordered mandates
1:22:36however it was the execution that cdcr
1:22:39did with the incompetence that's why
1:22:41you're seeing such a disaster I mean you
1:22:43give somebody a mission but they don't
1:22:46they're incompetent and they don't have
1:22:47you know the knowledge to carry it out
1:22:50they're going to create they're going to
1:22:51[ __ ] the [ __ ] bed bro they're going
1:22:52to [ __ ] the bed and they weren't they're
1:22:55not they're not prepared for that I
1:22:57don't think they were I don't think they
1:22:59were prepared because I don't think they
1:23:01knew the extent of the power that was
1:23:03going to happen in the vacuums and the
1:23:05power struggles and who these people
1:23:06really were I think if they would have
1:23:08the execution if they would released
1:23:10them in a certain way kept them
1:23:11designated and really mon I really think
1:23:13Administration right now don't really
1:23:14care what these guys do I they're not I
1:23:16think they're not paying attention to
1:23:17them I think there's a lot of
1:23:19correctional officers that care but as
1:23:22long as they're subordinates or they're
1:23:23higher ups and not telling what to do
1:23:25they're just kind of left like you just
1:23:26put you know a bunch of chickens and the
1:23:28Wolves then these wolves are going to
1:23:31take over they're going to demolish
1:23:32these uh correction officers because
1:23:34these guys don't know no better and
1:23:35they're still waiting for guidance and
1:23:36Direction you're not teaching your
1:23:38correction off off how to really monitor
1:23:40and investigate these guys I have no
1:23:42idea back then IGI and ISU used to be on
1:23:45us left and right bust us we wouldn't
1:23:46have cell phones longer than four months
1:23:48in cdcr and we to get caught so we had
1:23:51to make the best of it
1:23:53now I mean look at the indictments that
1:23:55are happening and look at how many
1:23:56people are getting killed and we all
1:23:58know it's coming from the possession of
1:23:59cell phones the possession of Narcotics
1:24:02the possession of what these gang
1:24:03members are really doing on behalf of
1:24:04these prison gang leaders like back then
1:24:06you used to be able to stop these dudes
1:24:08now you're so incapable of in stopping
1:24:10these guys why isn't that what your guys
1:24:12is training and protocols and exercises
1:24:13and seminars are for isn't that isn't
1:24:15that the only [ __ ] job of cdcr is
1:24:18true protect the safety of the inmates
1:24:20so and in doing so it's investigating
1:24:22these gang leaders like he may not be
1:24:24able to put him in an indeterminate shoe
1:24:26again but I'm pretty sure you can snatch
1:24:27him take his phone shake things up a
1:24:30little bit disturb the piece nothing's
1:24:33happening I was not I was not even going
1:24:34to bring this topic up honestly not in
1:24:36this interview but I might as well the
1:24:38California model man where you're going
1:24:40to be playing as an inmate with sports
1:24:42against the co foosball [ __ ] cornhole
1:24:45what's your take on that man how would
1:24:46you like to play sports with a seal I
1:24:49wouldn't have I mean their job is to
1:24:52monitor me my job has always been to
1:24:53monitor them how to beat them I'm not
1:24:55trying to beat him in a game of
1:24:56basketball I'm trying to beat him in a
1:24:58game of power so and you're going to
1:25:01what you're going to do is you're going
1:25:01to cause these guys to become overly
1:25:03friendly and that's what you want as an
1:25:05inmate once you break the barriers of a
1:25:08cop you just need a cop to tell you no
1:25:09once and you open up the door because
1:25:11they're not even supposed to acknowledge
1:25:12that they're supposed to report you get
1:25:13you off the yard uh what's it called uh
1:25:16too close to staff over familiarity over
1:25:18familiarity and you get you transferred
1:25:20if I can ask a cop after playing a
1:25:22couple games and I'm like what's up man
1:25:23you feel like making some extra m money
1:25:24hypothetically n I'm good I already got
1:25:27him where I want him because he didn't
1:25:29report me if he didn't report me then
1:25:31he's not going to report it when I do
1:25:32show him this money and I do show him
1:25:33this green down and I do show him how
1:25:34much money he can make you're just
1:25:37opening up the doors for these inmates
1:25:38to really communicate better with these
1:25:40cops that's why I think it shouldn't
1:25:42have even been allowed because in
1:25:43reality the inmates are bending the
1:25:45rules for themselves too because for the
1:25:46longest time our struggle is always been
1:25:48against prison Administration the
1:25:50indeterminate shoes the the gang
1:25:52investigations with a lock of suff for
1:25:54eight months and just investigators no
1:25:56115 no only a 114d lockup order just
1:25:59investigations no disciplinary hearings
1:26:01they can keep you isolated they could
1:26:03put you on potty watch and make you eat
1:26:04your dump they could do so much stuff
1:26:06like
1:26:08that they're not utilizing that power no
1:26:10more like where did all the power that
1:26:12the prison Administration used to have
1:26:13on inmates how they used to overpower us
1:26:15we can get away with certain things like
1:26:17a stabbing here and there cell phone
1:26:18here and there some dope here and there
1:26:20and they'll bust us now it's like they
1:26:22don't even care what just like what
1:26:25where did the mentality change where did
1:26:26all that power go now because you guys
1:26:28used to be so much powerful against us
1:26:31well that happened from a period of time
1:26:33from the year of 2012 and on and that
1:26:36was a shift and the change in laws
1:26:39agendas Word of Mouth directions hey we
1:26:42want you to do this now and that was
1:26:44just Word of Mouth it was going against
1:26:46what our actual policy said and then
1:26:48once then eventually you would see the
1:26:50policy change um but yeah that's how we
1:26:52got there dude
1:26:54what's your take on the current peace
1:26:57treaty end of all hostility between the
1:27:00norra Familia and the Mexican
1:27:02Mafia it's uh what what people are
1:27:04feeling and realize is that it's only
1:27:06benefiting them in the process because
1:27:09who's dying Northerners and Southerners
1:27:12who's doing the most stabbing
1:27:13Northerners and Southerners these
1:27:14Mexican Mafia and members ain't really
1:27:16stabbing each other like that and you
1:27:19just put a bunch of abusive people that
1:27:22overexert their power that love their
1:27:24power that that thrive off their power
1:27:27in a general population where people
1:27:29that are going to be taken advantage of
1:27:31so that's why a lot of people are losing
1:27:32their families a lot of people I got to
1:27:34do these documentaries and do these
1:27:35videos about inmates dying and dying and
1:27:37dying you seen what these guys are
1:27:40capable of and what they care about the
1:27:41most a lot of these dudes want drugs and
1:27:44they want money they want money because
1:27:46nobody's taking care of them on the
1:27:47streets they want drugs because they've
1:27:49been drug addict since day one since
1:27:51they've been prison gang leaders even
1:27:53though them being out there on the
1:27:55mainlines revealed who they truly are
1:27:57unmasked who they really are so many
1:28:00people have been scared for about scared
1:28:01of them for so long that they're
1:28:03incapable of doing anything towards them
1:28:05no resistance no Rebellion no speaking
1:28:07up no questioning nothing I think it's a
1:28:10big old fraud the peace treat is only in
1:28:12alignment of their pockets not for the
1:28:14best interest of inmates but they were
1:28:15able to convince the courts that it's in
1:28:17the best interest of inmates it's the
1:28:19best in it's the best it's in the best
1:28:21interest of you know no more violence in
1:28:23prison there been a lot more violence
1:28:25since they've been
1:28:27out how much percentage of noros and SOS
1:28:31do you think are currently unhappy with
1:28:34the politics of the
1:28:36organization more than half more than
1:28:38half and I talked to a lot of
1:28:39Northerners I mean why do you think I
1:28:41got so much in depth information they
1:28:43come from active Northerners they're
1:28:45just fed up they're Fed Up of getting
1:28:46punked by their big homies and their big
1:28:48homies getting punked by Mexican mafia
1:28:50members cuz Mexican Mafia is really
1:28:51dictating the whole aspect of California
1:28:53prison period
1:28:54oh bro they're slapping around Co
1:28:56slapping around noro slapping around
1:28:58blacks I know I'm going to get some get
1:28:59back on that but uh that's true I heard
1:29:02the same story I heard the same story of
1:29:04Mexican Mafia a Mexican Mafia member in
1:29:06High Desert State Prison literally told
1:29:07him noro get the [ __ ] out of the shower
1:29:10and then noro got out of the damn shower
1:29:13like that's how easy it is for them
1:29:15another Mexican Mafia mtho is literally
1:29:17in debt to North Daniels owes North
1:29:19danels thousands and thousands of
1:29:21dollars and all the money that he
1:29:22collects from Taxation and dope game
1:29:25from his sud danels pays off his debts
1:29:27to the Northerners look at the hypocrisy
1:29:29that takes place amongst everybody the
1:29:32Mexican Mafia is really in control the
1:29:34NF is just abiding by it because they're
1:29:36lack numbers and they're having their
1:29:37own power disputes and you know their
1:29:39vacuum system where they're trying to
1:29:41you know all the vacancies and what
1:29:42they're trying to do and fill up the
1:29:43seats and they're going to war with each
1:29:44other where they're not really paying
1:29:45attention what the m is really doing
1:29:48that's all it really is everybody's
1:29:50disappointed in their big homies cuz
1:29:51they seen who they really were they
1:29:52weren't the people that everybody
1:29:54believed in the last past 30 years all
1:29:56this gu's this that me I remember I used
1:29:58to look at these guys like these guys
1:29:59were perfect people like the idols you
1:30:02know the my my Hercules or something oh
1:30:03man these are big homies bro there's
1:30:05these guys set the tone for us I only to
1:30:08hear about them now like man they're
1:30:09just drug addicts they're strung out
1:30:10they're they're on dope most of the time
1:30:12they're not even supervising their
1:30:14people they have no remorse for the
1:30:16people they don't care about the people
1:30:17they're not try to lead their people
1:30:18they're not really gang leaders in the
1:30:20aspects like we once believe they really
1:30:21were now we just seen what they really
1:30:23were
1:30:24and now we see that they're just
1:30:25slapping I mean how you going to slap
1:30:27your own people that work for you just
1:30:29slap them in the face on the yard
1:30:30because you don't like what he said or
1:30:31you conducted himself or grab a stap cup
1:30:34and beat him with in front of everybody
1:30:36and still tell him you're solid if you
1:30:38don't lock it up it's just a bunch of
1:30:40hypocrisy going on and everybody's
1:30:42disappointed in
1:30:44it how would you say the quality of
1:30:47leadership skills are with the norra
1:30:51Familia members of today cuz from what
1:30:53I've gathered especially the whole
1:30:55Fiasco that was happening a couple
1:30:57months ago maybe a year ago it's like oh
1:30:59this dude man he ain't really a good
1:31:00leader he doesn't have the experience it
1:31:02takes um is that the case man is a lot
1:31:05of
1:31:06inexperienced no it's I think it's there
1:31:10there has never been proper leadership
1:31:12we just always believe that there was
1:31:14proper leadership because their
1:31:16leadership back then was a communication
1:31:18now you doing this right you doing that
1:31:20right you're doing this right did you
1:31:21conduct this investigation properly why
1:31:23did you blast
1:31:24how much money you making what are you
1:31:25doing for the people they were so easy
1:31:27to question our contributions and what
1:31:30we contribute as assets and sources of
1:31:32interest to this cause were made us
1:31:34believe like man these these guys are a
1:31:35level of intelligence a level of
1:31:37Integrity that we need to Aspire to be
1:31:39in but then you come out you see them
1:31:40stabbing each other because they want
1:31:42this yard or they want this city or they
1:31:43want this money or they didn't like that
1:31:45the generals were over here and they're
1:31:47over here taking their positions and the
1:31:48generals want California for themselves
1:31:51you see all the power struggles that
1:31:53these guys are
1:31:54but they're supposed to call each other
1:31:55brothers there's never been proper
1:31:58leadership we just always assumed that
1:32:00it was good
1:32:02leadership when that noro was hit in
1:32:04Pelican Bay or the inso was hit in
1:32:08Pelican Bay by those
1:32:10Soros and the north did not
1:32:13retaliate what kind of thoughts were you
1:32:16having that's when I knew like the
1:32:19realities of it cuz I didn't know the
1:32:20details until recently about that
1:32:22investigation I just knew Theory story
1:32:24when I had heard about it like they left
1:32:25them hanging and then we didn't go to
1:32:27war yeah there was a small incident
1:32:29where they disacknowledge some filters
1:32:32when they were told not to do anything
1:32:34that they were going to bring it up to
1:32:35the big homies yeah a couple Northerners
1:32:38engaged and got deemed no good for for
1:32:40disacknowledge and direct orders I heard
1:32:42about that
1:32:43situation but just hearing about it
1:32:45that's when I realized man the N they
1:32:46lost that with they're just they're just
1:32:49they're pretty much bending over at this
1:32:50point and for a long time these dudes
1:32:52made us go to war made us hate
1:32:54Southerners made us hate Mexicans
1:32:56Mexican mafia
1:32:57members only for them to come out and
1:32:59say hey bro we're not going to do
1:33:00nothing because we don't want to lose no
1:33:02respect or we want to have business
1:33:03Endeavors with them and they just they
1:33:06just bent over and just took it like
1:33:07that they're really scared and we've
1:33:09seen that with that situation Alone by
1:33:11saying you know what we're going to let
1:33:12this northerner get blasted we'll feed
1:33:14him to you guys they just fed their own
1:33:16people their own foot soldiers to their
1:33:18enemy their so-called enemy of 30 40 50
1:33:20years didn't do nothing about it that
1:33:22just goes to show you that there's in
1:33:23proper leadership on that
1:33:27yard I had no idea that those uh noros
1:33:30got deemed no good the one that the
1:33:32little um you know their little get back
1:33:35over there in the bay yeah I talked to
1:33:37one of them the one of them that dis
1:33:39acknowledged the filter because he said
1:33:42specifically he said was like hey this
1:33:43is what we're supposed to be doing bro
1:33:45like we're supposed to defend this
1:33:46dude and we didn't they were telling us
1:33:49not to do it they sent a two two filters
1:33:52he circulated a filter him self he wrote
1:33:54it up saying Get Ready for War right and
1:33:56they took his filter threw it away and
1:33:58then recirculated the filter saying dis
1:34:00acknowledge that last filter we are not
1:34:01going to do anything we'll bring it up
1:34:02to the big homies the big homies are
1:34:03going to resolve it with the em and he
1:34:05didn't like that so he went on ahead and
1:34:08sanctioned it to we like nah we're going
1:34:09to do something about it little quick
1:34:11little whatever it was I think it was a
1:34:13two on two during like shower time
1:34:14something like that two inmates and he
1:34:17got deemed no good for that so the
1:34:19federal faction was not happy about the
1:34:22peace treaty or the current
1:34:25situation how much influence do the feds
1:34:28have over the state they have a lot more
1:34:30influence than I thought because
1:34:32speaking to a lot of people from
1:34:33Northern California they give me a
1:34:35little bit information a lot more people
1:34:36on the streets are siding up with the
1:34:38federal faction because these are dudes
1:34:42that we've known about we've heard about
1:34:44that we've talked about for years these
1:34:46newcomers like Ono like DC and then uh
1:34:50Tuco they weren't high ranking NF
1:34:53members they were just known for what
1:34:54they did in 1992 and what their
1:34:57controlling cases consisted of so they
1:34:59were they were uh you know high-profile
1:35:01people and aspects that we knew who they
1:35:03where they were but they weren't high
1:35:05ranking members like gu skip store madg
1:35:09you know K I mean um corny we heard
1:35:13about those names they're always going
1:35:15to be the generals in accordance to
1:35:17noral politics so it's kind of hard to
1:35:19turn your back on them to try to side up
1:35:21with these guys but in reality you can't
1:35:23say no to these dudes all these dudes
1:35:25did was just find positions of authority
1:35:28that were vacant took them over in the
1:35:31same Essence the feds want to take over
1:35:32because they want California to
1:35:34themselves you got your big homies that
1:35:36you look up to for all these years
1:35:37fighting for you fighting for your blood
1:35:39for your sweat for your tears for your
1:35:41contributions for your sacrifices to
1:35:43benefit them in the long run so in
1:35:46reality like why would you look up to
1:35:47something of that kind of leadership
1:35:50those kind of caliber of men who really
1:35:51would Slaughter each other just just to
1:35:54have you in their possessions to own you
1:35:57that's all it really is do you believe
1:35:59that some of those State members if they
1:36:01would have touched down of the feds they
1:36:02would be deemed no good I think
1:36:06uh I think there's going to be another
1:36:08War for that I think they will there's
1:36:11if you read the truth filters like I
1:36:12have and really like just dissected them
1:36:15and read the if you understand how noros
1:36:18and NF members really word stuff you'll
1:36:20see the anger you'll see the aggression
1:36:22you'll see the determination and you'll
1:36:23see the you know the the how they're
1:36:26just inserting that in somebody's head
1:36:27like no they did wrong they weren't
1:36:30supposed to do this he did this wrong
1:36:32when they start referencing the
1:36:33Constitution or like North Danel would
1:36:35references the bonds they're trying to
1:36:37prove a point that whatever these men
1:36:38did were a strict violations of the
1:36:41Constitution of NF protocol so yeah I
1:36:44think if they make it to the feds
1:36:46there's going to be a lot of disputes I
1:36:47don't think all three of them would die
1:36:48but I think for the most part DC is
1:36:51going to be the one that's going to
1:36:52answer to it the most since he was the
1:36:54highest ranking and the oldest ranking
1:36:56uh NF member that kind of started all
1:36:58this now are they Curr currently um
1:37:00federally indicted Rico or no yeah
1:37:02operation Quiet Storm okay operation
1:37:05chir storm so you know they I don't know
1:37:08if they're going to make it to the F
1:37:09because look what happened to the ab the
1:37:10ab was federally indicted and they beat
1:37:12it and they're not going to the feds so
1:37:14the NF might have a possibility of
1:37:16beating it and not making it to the feds
1:37:18and I honestly think that's what they'll
1:37:19fight for the most but in reality Matt
1:37:22roacha testifying
1:37:24that's boy is going to seal a deal on a
1:37:26lot of stuff and if his testimony alone
1:37:29can get these guys convicted and send
1:37:30these dudes to the feds he just pretty
1:37:32much gave the federal faction all these
1:37:35dudes in a in a gift basket that's what
1:37:38I think is really going to happen if his
1:37:39testimony holds up in
1:37:42court what kind of feedback do you get
1:37:44on your channel and what you're doing
1:37:46positive negative all around believe it
1:37:49or not I get more support than hate I
1:37:52acknowledge they hate a lot more because
1:37:54that's what I used for my YouTube
1:37:55channel to combat it because you can
1:37:58hate me all you want you can be
1:37:59discouraged by my channel and my
1:38:01information but I'm showing the depths
1:38:03of prison politics and what they look
1:38:05like I'm not I wasn't the first one who
1:38:07started that stuff I came out to prison
1:38:09and read looked up prison channels and I
1:38:11heard about know Converse perspective
1:38:13and all these other guys and they were
1:38:15doing it years before I was I don't see
1:38:17why I'm the most hated because why I
1:38:19have intimate details because a lot more
1:38:21people came forward to divulge
1:38:23information want me and speak the truth
1:38:24and allow me to speak the
1:38:26truth reality is people were doing it
1:38:29before I was so I don't see what the
1:38:31disappoint me is there's a lot more
1:38:32supporters but they'll do it in silence
1:38:35and I respect the silence because they
1:38:37don't I don't need everybody to
1:38:38acknowledge that I'm supported by a vast
1:38:41majority of my subscribers because all
1:38:42the haters do and all the criticizers
1:38:44and the commentators do is Target those
1:38:46that don't need to be targeted they'll
1:38:48go after my supporters that support me
1:38:50and talk smack to them like no it's my
1:38:52face it's my YouTu YouTube channel I'll
1:38:54bite the bullet I got the thick skin for
1:38:56it took me a well a long time to develop
1:38:58it but like no your your battle with me
1:39:01so a lot of my content really comes from
1:39:03just disgruntled people that hate my my
1:39:06my my content and they'll leave stupid
1:39:08comments and I'm like you know what I'm
1:39:09going reverse this on them and I've been
1:39:11doing that and that's what hey reality
1:39:12they just gave me another video to do
1:39:14and another video to do and I do that on
1:39:16a daily bases reading these negative
1:39:18comments and showing them that I can
1:39:19destroy you with my intelligence and my
1:39:21maturity and my growth because what I'm
1:39:23doing if it's really pissing you off
1:39:25that much because it's truthful it
1:39:28because it's means something if it was
1:39:30Bull craap and it was a fake story you
1:39:31would just laugh at it and walk away but
1:39:33for the simple fact that you can comment
1:39:35on it and be and feel harassed by it
1:39:37feel betrayed by it tells everybody else
1:39:41that what I'm saying is truthful and
1:39:43that is exactly how I feel about cdcr
1:39:45management telling the SE not to talk to
1:39:47me or watch me because it's factual and
1:39:51[ __ ] truthful yeah it is but the
1:39:53correctional officers need to understand
1:39:54too that they're in a world full of
1:39:56politics of their own and I've seen it
1:39:58I've seen just the whole you know what
1:40:01is it called when you guys uh like vote
1:40:03for like different positions like I
1:40:05think every couple months you guys
1:40:06posting bid where you get poting bid a
1:40:08job every three years you would think
1:40:10that you know you have an equal
1:40:12opportunity to get those bids that thing
1:40:13is manipulated by higher ups [ __ ] yeah
1:40:15cuz IID hear C complain like man there
1:40:17should be no reason I'm not over there
1:40:18and that dude is I'm exactly I don't
1:40:20know what you guys go through same [ __ ]
1:40:24I think Administration learns from our
1:40:26politics and then they execute it worse
1:40:29man more grimier CU you guys got a badge
1:40:31to bag it up [ __ ] Cutthroat dude yeah
1:40:33you guys really you guys can't retaliate
1:40:35like us like we'll start a mutiny we'll
1:40:36go to war with our people I'll remove
1:40:38him and answer for it later yeah it's
1:40:40your guys' job bro it's your guys'
1:40:43livelihood so where do you see yourself
1:40:46and your channel in the future you you
1:40:49you think you can maintain this pace or
1:40:52do you plan on expanding
1:40:54um look I can only you know beat a dead
1:40:57horse so much before I everybody
1:40:59understands that it's a dead
1:41:00horse I was passionate about it for a
1:41:03long time I do want to still do a bunch
1:41:05of documentaries on behalf of these kids
1:41:07that are going to walk the same path as
1:41:09me and end up just like me or
1:41:10worse but there's got to be a change
1:41:13there's going to be some more growth
1:41:14I've grown this far and what I can tell
1:41:17myself is I've done everything that I
1:41:19could to convey a message to these kids
1:41:22I'm not telling the kids to stop gang
1:41:23banging they choose to by all means bro
1:41:25I'm proud of you for that there's so
1:41:26many people that told me they quit
1:41:28because of my Channel or so many so many
1:41:30people told me that their kids watch my
1:41:31channel and they be like man I don't
1:41:32want to ever get involved in that I
1:41:34reached people in ways that I never
1:41:36thought I could but like I said at some
1:41:38point you know prison is going to sound
1:41:40the same it's going to be redundant it's
1:41:42going to be the same story the same
1:41:43politics yes I'll contribute as much as
1:41:46possible
1:41:47but I can honestly say at this point I'm
1:41:49proud of what I would been able to
1:41:51accomplish I'm proud of the message that
1:41:52I was able to convey I'm proud of the
1:41:54information that no law enforcement gave
1:41:56me subscribers gave me people in prison
1:41:59gave me I reached a lot of people with a
1:42:01lot of in-depth information and provided
1:42:03it to the world to the audience to my
1:42:05enter to entertain people most
1:42:07importantly show everybody prison ain't
1:42:09just prison you just ain't going in
1:42:11there being a gang member for all these
1:42:13gang members that think that it's cool
1:42:15but it's not bro stop telling everybody
1:42:16it's cool stop telling everybody you got
1:42:18to be proud to be active we got to start
1:42:20sending the different messages like you
1:42:21got to be proud to be free again proud
1:42:23to be a former gang member proud to be a
1:42:25former paroi being our parole proud of
1:42:27being from a gang member to a supervisor
1:42:31at a job there's other things to be
1:42:33proud of than the aspect of the prison
1:42:34life and sometimes I get that I don't
1:42:37like talking about prison no more like I
1:42:38used to sometimes people give me
1:42:40information I'll make the videos on
1:42:41behalf of them but I've even reached
1:42:43that point where like hey bro enough's
1:42:45enough and it's time to grow and expand
1:42:47and you know do something different my
1:42:50audience members Gave Me a Channel and
1:42:52made me great to this day and I'm always
1:42:54going to be thankful for that now I'm
1:42:56just going to take on this new year to
1:42:57think about what else I'm going to do
1:42:59with this Channel and just Prosper it
1:43:01bro this I'm only it's only the only way
1:43:03is up from here so it might be a little
1:43:05bit of gang aspects here and there I'm
1:43:06trying to get it all out as much as
1:43:08possible yeah but once I'm finally done
1:43:11hey man I'm just going to thank my
1:43:12audience and tell them I did everything
1:43:13I could hopefully the kids learn from
1:43:15this it's time to move on to something
1:43:16different right
1:43:19so man that's powerful dude so for those
1:43:21that don't know which I'm sure you
1:43:23already do Renegade media on YouTube
1:43:26dude um I'm sure this video is going to
1:43:28get a lot of views man you're a popular
1:43:30guy dude especially right now more so
1:43:31than not so as we close out dude you
1:43:34have any final words you want to say to
1:43:36the audience man the floor is yours dude
1:43:37like I said there's going to be a lot of
1:43:38eyes watching this my message has always
1:43:41been simple you know I lost a cousin in
1:43:43his lifestyle a cousin that I wanted to
1:43:46see so many times before I came home
1:43:49that I got killed by my own gang a lot
1:43:51of people always going to call me a
1:43:53scrun employee because of my own removal
1:43:55I'm none of the above I'm just a person
1:43:57that took something that was a tragedy
1:43:59in my life something that all the
1:44:01adversity that I went through and I just
1:44:03turned into an astonishing thing I
1:44:05became something of myself I came home
1:44:08with nothing a paroi did 15 years two
1:44:11strikes I'm I'm a two- strike felon
1:44:13anything else is life without the
1:44:15possibility of parole again and I
1:44:17learned to change I learned to grow I
1:44:20learned to expand my mind I learned to
1:44:21become self-educated and I learned to
1:44:24mature my message has always been to
1:44:26everybody else is the saying if I can do
1:44:27it you can do it you only got One Life
1:44:30to Live you only got one chance to do
1:44:31this do something great with yourself I
1:44:34did something great with myself despite
1:44:35all the hate and the discouragement of
1:44:37others that want to see me fall they
1:44:39ain't going to see my downfall anytime
1:44:41soon and I promise you that so always
1:44:43remember it's one life one chance we
1:44:45only got one chance to do this Tri let's
1:44:46get it done Renegade
1:44:49media with that love you guys make sure
1:44:52you hit the hit that subscribe button
1:44:54keep pushing forward
1:44:57peace you've been listening to Hector
1:45:00Bravo
1:45:01unhinged follow for more
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