Itamar Vieira Junior sobre 'Torto Arado': "é uma história sobre o Brasil pós-abolição" — Transcript

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1. 0:00Is this reality shown in Tortoarado
2. 0:03about a Brazil of the past or the
3. 0:06present?
4. 0:07What I can say is that it's a story
5. 0:09about post-abolition Brazil.
6. 0:10Hmm.
7. 0:11And to show that slavery, well, it
8. 0:13wasn't for that, okay? I'm writing this
9. 0:16thinking like a critic,
10. 0:18but that was the intention, that the
11. 0:21story of the characters, which is what
12. 0:23interested me, the story of those
13. 0:25characters, of those women, would
14. 0:27highlight that this legacy is still
15. 0:30very present, very significant in our
16. 0:32lives,
17. 0:33this legacy of slavery, and that we
18. 0:37need to pay attention to it, right?
19. 0:40Because there are still people today
20. 0:43living in situations of slavery, of
21. 0:46servitude. It was a game. I also
22. 0:49provoked the reader to seek the meaning
23. 0:53of that story, the meaning of the time,
24. 0:55of the narrative of that story,
25. 0:57and it did very well. That's why we'll
26. 1:00never stop talking about Tortoarado.
27. 1:03You know that, right? Uh, and now
28. 1:05there's that, I don't know if I'll call
29. 1:09it a ghost, but that aura of the second
30. 1:12book, how's
31. 1:14that expectation going? It
32. 1:15hovers, like a ghost. And if I say I
33. 1:21don't think about it, I'd be dishonest,
34. 1:24but I've learned to let go and take
35. 1:27control of the situation.
36. 1:29How is that?
37. 1:30Because for me, the most important
38. 1:33thing is to write, right? When I wrote
39. 1:36this story, I never imagined it would
40. 1:38reach so many people, that it would
41. 1:41find such a diverse and at the same
42. 1:43time interested audience. And I try to
43. 1:46be guided by the same things, which is
44. 1:50that what matters is this desire to
45. 1:53write, this desire to tell a story.
46. 1:57And have you understood why Torture was
47. 1:59first seen in Portugal rather than in
48. 2:02Brazil? It was a very simple matter.
49. 2:05I didn't have, I live in Bahia, I
50. 2:08didn't have a publisher to publish the
51. 2:11book.
52. 2:13And also, I wasn't very, I didn't have
53. 2:16much confidence about what I had
54. 2:18written. One way to feel secure was to
55. 2:21submit it anonymously to people who
56. 2:23would evaluate it.
57. 2:25And it was a mere coincidence that it
58. 2:28was an award in Portugal. It
59. 2:29was the Leia Award. That's
60. 2:31right. The first one was the Leia Award
61. 2:32. That's what allowed the book to be
62. 2:34published.
63. 2:35And that's why the book came out in
64. 2:37Portugal first. And you know what
65. 2:38intrigued me most, Marcelo? It's that
66. 2:40we have a history, it's a complex
67. 2:43history with Portugal.
68. 2:45Well, I always emphasize my Black and
69. 2:48Indigenous origins, but there's a small
70. 2:51part of my maternal family that
71. 2:54emigrated to Brazil at the beginning of
72. 2:57the 20th century from the Minho region
73. 3:00in Portugal. And I know how complex
74. 3:03this relationship is with our history.
75. 3:07After all, we were colonized, right, by
76. 3:09them. And I think it's so curious that
77. 3:13this story, which speaks about the
78. 3:15wounds of colonization as well, right?
79. 3:19Because slavery is a wound of
80. 3:20colonization,
81. 3:21would touch precisely those people,
82. 3:24right? Perhaps it's an interest
83. 3:27of the country itself in knowing its
84. 3:30history, its own history, right?
85. 3:32Perhaps this history from the
86. 3:34perspective of those who were oppressed
87. 3:36, right? They were victims, even in a
88. 3:38way of speaking like this: "Hello
89. 3:40Brazil, pay attention to this guy here,
90. 3:43maybe he's
91. 3:44talking to us in a way that now you can
92. 3:47understand
93. 3:48what we did there, what a thing, right?
94. 3:51That's what 'Long live the internet' is
95. 3:52all about."
96. 3:53Yes. Oh,