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It Sucks for 3 Days But It Makes Waking Up Early Effortless - Dr Andrew Huberman — Transcript

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  1. 0:00how can people become a morning person
  2. 0:02or learn to get up early more easily and
  3. 0:06more regularly yeah um three days of
  4. 0:09pain the rest is easy so it takes about
  5. 0:11three days to shift the biological
  6. 0:14mechanisms to uh make you a morning
  7. 0:16person now if you are a very strongly
  8. 0:20genetically determined Night Owl that's
  9. 0:22a thing that's a thing so there are
  10. 0:24genetic mutations they call them
  11. 0:26polymorphisms that make some people
  12. 0:28night owls they feel best
  13. 0:30psychologically and physically going to
  14. 0:31sleep at about 1: 2 or 3:00 a.m. and
  15. 0:34waking up somewhere around you know 10
  16. 0:3711 am or noon that exists not just
  17. 0:41during development or teen years but
  18. 0:43that exists not just for social reasons
  19. 0:44other people are true morning people
  20. 0:46they feel absolutely best going to sleep
  21. 0:48around 8:00 p.m. or 900 p.m. 10: p.m.
  22. 0:52would be late for them and they feel
  23. 0:53great waking up at 4:00 5 or 6:00 a.m.
  24. 0:56okay most people feel best going to
  25. 0:57sleep somewhere between 10: and midnight
  26. 0:59and waking up somewhere between 6:00
  27. 1:01a.m. and 8:00 a.m. or so maybe 5:30 to
  28. 1:048:00 a.m. okay so those are three bins
  29. 1:08of the Night Owl the morning person and
  30. 1:11then the more typical schedule but it's
  31. 1:13heavily weighted toward that typical
  32. 1:15schedule if you look at the general
  33. 1:17population so if somebody wants to get
  34. 1:20up earlier you need to stack the four
  35. 1:23primary what are called zeit gers or
  36. 1:25timekeepers so named because some of the
  37. 1:27early chronobiologists that discovered
  38. 1:29this this stuff and the underlying
  39. 1:31mechanisms were German as it were so the
  40. 1:34number one zeit Gaber the number one way
  41. 1:36to shift your circadian clock which is
  42. 1:38this cluster of neurons that sits a few
  43. 1:40centimeters above the roof of your mouth
  44. 1:42is to view bright light at a time when
  45. 1:45you want to be awake aka the morning
  46. 1:48okay so that's why I say get outside
  47. 1:50look at the sun toward the sun don't
  48. 1:53force yourself to stare at it don't
  49. 1:55damage your eyes blink as needed no
  50. 1:57sunglasses eye glasses corrective lenses
  51. 2:00contacts are absolutely fine even if
  52. 2:01they have UV protection
  53. 2:04okay however if you combine that with
  54. 2:06another zeit Gaber the second most
  55. 2:08powerful zeit Gaber is exercise or
  56. 2:10movement so if you do some jumping jacks
  57. 2:12you skip some rope or even just take a
  58. 2:14walk while facing the sun now you're
  59. 2:16starting to stack different zeit gers
  60. 2:18and I'll explain the mechanisms in a
  61. 2:20moment if you then also add caffeine now
  62. 2:23this spits in the face a little bit of
  63. 2:25what I said a few minutes ago but if you
  64. 2:27were to add caffeine you can entrain as
  65. 2:31it's called the circadian clock to be
  66. 2:33alert at that time a bit more and I'll
  67. 2:35be honest if I'm going to exercise first
  68. 2:36thing in the morning I need caffeine I
  69. 2:38can't wait that 60 to 90 minutes if I
  70. 2:40need to jump right into exercise I find
  71. 2:42it's easiest for me to do 30 minutes
  72. 2:44after waking three hours after waking or
  73. 2:4611 hours after waking and a lot of
  74. 2:48people find that the same but of course
  75. 2:50exercise when you can because it's that
  76. 2:52important but if you want to quot and
  77. 2:53optimize your energy levels for exercise
  78. 2:55typically people will notice that has to
  79. 2:56do with your temperature Rhythm Okay so
  80. 2:58we've got sunlight we've got exercise or
  81. 3:01movement of any kind it could be jumping
  82. 3:02jacks could be walking you don't have to
  83. 3:04do a full workout and then caffeine and
  84. 3:07in some cases food I'm not big on eating
  85. 3:10first thing in the morning I don't like
  86. 3:11to eat until 11: a.m. or noon that's
  87. 3:14when my first meal arrives for me just
  88. 3:16naturally that's when I get hungry it's
  89. 3:17all caffeine and hydration prior to that
  90. 3:20but if you were to eat something first
  91. 3:22thing in the morning you that's part of
  92. 3:24the way you entrain your circadian clock
  93. 3:26to wake up to essentially wake you up
  94. 3:29earlier and then the fourth one is a
  95. 3:30social Rhythm if you're interacting with
  96. 3:32other people you're going to entrain
  97. 3:35your clock to that as well way yes so
  98. 3:37there's a socially there's a social
  99. 3:39component to circadian entrainment now
  100. 3:41the pathways for these are from the eye
  101. 3:43in the case of viewing light to the
  102. 3:45circadian clock the supermatic nucleus
  103. 3:47in the case of caffeine it's more
  104. 3:49General in the case of exercise there's
  105. 3:51literally a brain stem to circadian
  106. 3:54clock connection a big super highway of
  107. 3:56neuronal connections that then So-Cal
  108. 3:59entrains your circadian clock remember
  109. 4:01your circadian clock generates an
  110. 4:03intrinsic 24-hour Rhythm such that if we
  111. 4:05put you into constant dark or constant
  112. 4:07light you would still sleep for a given
  113. 4:08bout and then be alert for a given bout
  114. 4:10with a little bit of a nap it just is
  115. 4:12what would call free run it would drift
  116. 4:13a little later each day this is what
  117. 4:15happens when you go to Vegas this is
  118. 4:17what happens when you're in an
  119. 4:18environment without a lot of cues about
  120. 4:20the day uh the sunlight uh rising and
  121. 4:23setting
  122. 4:25cycle
  123. 4:26sunlight exercise caffeine and eating
  124. 4:29and social interactions bring your
  125. 4:32circadian clock into alignment with all
  126. 4:35of those zit gers so when I said it
  127. 4:38takes three days if tomorrow you want to
  128. 4:41start beginning the process of becoming
  129. 4:43an early riser you'd set your alarm for
  130. 4:455:00 a.m. no matter what time you went
  131. 4:47to sleep the night before you're going
  132. 4:48to get up and you're going to do the
  133. 4:49four things that I described maybe leave
  134. 4:51out food if you don't want to eat maybe
  135. 4:53leave out caffeine if you want to delay
  136. 4:54by 90 minutes it's going to hurt and
  137. 4:58then by the early afternoon you'll be
  138. 4:59dragging a bit and you just have to be
  139. 5:01careful to not overindulge in caffeine
  140. 5:03which will then cause you to fall asleep
  141. 5:04later then you want to go to sleep at
  142. 5:06your now naturally slightly earlier
  143. 5:08sleep time the next day you'll notice
  144. 5:11you'll it'll be a little bit easier to
  145. 5:13do the morning routine I just described
  146. 5:16and by the third day you ought to be
  147. 5:18waking up with or before the Alarm by a
  148. 5:20few minutes or moments because your
  149. 5:22circadian clock has phase shifted okay
  150. 5:25it's phase Advanced as we say your
  151. 5:27circadian clock intrinsic to you
  152. 5:29generates a
  153. 5:3124.2 or a 24.3 hour Rhythm it's not
  154. 5:34perfectly 24 hours and that we believe
  155. 5:37we don't know but the just so story is
  156. 5:39that it's that it's such that that
  157. 5:43you're able to then shift that clock in
  158. 5:46in one or the other direction you can
  159. 5:47phase advance so you wake up earlier and
  160. 5:49go to sleep earlier you can phase delay
  161. 5:51how do you phase delay well you're
  162. 5:52probably doing this already everyone
  163. 5:54nowadays pretty much qualifies as a
  164. 5:56shift worker by the strict and not so
  165. 5:58strict criteria of shift work which is
  166. 6:00are you doing any kind of cognitive
  167. 6:02activity after 9:00 p.m. are you viewing
  168. 6:04any kind of bright lights after 9:30
  169. 6:06p.m. most people would say yes so the
  170. 6:09the Diabolical thing about the Circadian
  171. 6:11Timing System is that it requires a lot
  172. 6:14of bright light ideally from sunlight
  173. 6:16but a lot of bright light early in the
  174. 6:18day to make you a morning and daytime
  175. 6:20person but it requires just a little bit
  176. 6:22of bright light even from an artificial
  177. 6:23Source after the hours of about 9:30
  178. 6:26p.m. till 4:00 a.m. to quash your Mel
  179. 6:29tonin make it difficult to sleep or if
  180. 6:31you sleep to make that sleep not as
  181. 6:33effective there's a simple remedy
  182. 6:34however which is and this is a beautiful
  183. 6:37study publishing science reports in
  184. 6:412022 if you view sunlight in the
  185. 6:45afternoon even for five minutes or so
  186. 6:48could be late afternoon could be sunset
  187. 6:50take off your sunglasses look in the
  188. 6:51direction of the Sun so now looking West
  189. 6:53you adjust the sensitivity of your
  190. 6:55retina the neurons in the back of your
  191. 6:57eye such that bright light later at
  192. 7:00night doesn't have quite as much effect
  193. 7:03to suppress melatonin and it reduces the
  194. 7:05Melatonin suppressive Effects by about
  195. 7:0750% or offsets those so I think of this
  196. 7:10afternoon viewing as well first of all
  197. 7:12it's nice to look at a sunset if you're
  198. 7:14indoors in environment like this even if
  199. 7:16there are bright lights on get outside
  200. 7:19for a few minutes before the sun sets
  201. 7:20this is especially important in Winter
  202. 7:23even if you can't see the Sun as an
  203. 7:24object get some sun light in your eyes
  204. 7:26and that will at least partially offset
  205. 7:28the effects of bright light light in
  206. 7:30your eyes at night partially and I refer
  207. 7:32to this more or less as your Netflix
  208. 7:33inoculation so that that night you can
  209. 7:35be on your phone or watch Netflix and
  210. 7:36it's not going to disrupt your sleep as
  211. 7:38much but it will still disrupt your
  212. 7:40sleep somewhat but let's you know unless
  213. 7:42like Rick rubin's very diligent about
  214. 7:44wearing the red lens classes I've
  215. 7:46started doing that as well um but if you
  216. 7:49don't do that you I'm guessing he also
  217. 7:52sees the sunset in the evening um he's
  218. 7:54very attached for good scientific
  219. 7:57reasons uh to the sunlight thing but
  220. 7:59these are little things that take just
  221. 8:01moments right they're essentially zero
  222. 8:03cost that can really improve your sleep
  223. 8:05but that's how you become a morning
  224. 8:06person if you want to become a night
  225. 8:07person you do the opposite you view
  226. 8:09bright light between the hours of 400
  227. 8:12p.m. and 10 p.m. and there then you will
  228. 8:15phase delay or phase shift in a delayed
  229. 8:18way your circadian clock making you want
  230. 8:21to wake up later the next morning I
  231. 8:23wonder if dogs count as uh social
  232. 8:28interaction absolutely and they have all
  233. 8:31of the same mechanisms we just described
  234. 8:33so I just thinking how can we stack that
  235. 8:35everything first thing in the morning
  236. 8:37morning walk you if you're in a place
  237. 8:40that's not Iceland or somewhere that's
  238. 8:42super high North dog social interaction
  239. 8:46moving around and then caffeine if you
  240. 8:48do or if you don't if you don't want it
  241. 8:50but uh if you have a dog that likes to
  242. 8:52run you're even better off CU it'll
  243. 8:54force you to run if you have if you have
  244. 8:56an English bulldog like I did you'd be
  245. 8:58lucky if you get out of bed by
  246. 9:00their eyes are droopy they don't and um
  247. 9:03uh they don't like to move but it is the
  248. 9:06case that dogs will naturally Orient
  249. 9:09toward the sun you know and people
  250. 9:11always ask you know do dogs have the
  251. 9:12same mechanisms absolutely intrinsically
  252. 9:14photosensitive retinal gangling cells
  253. 9:15the one that project to the clock and
  254. 9:17carry all of this um thing about
  255. 9:19circadian entrainment to sunlight are
  256. 9:22present as far as we know in every
  257. 9:24extent Mamon species every Mamon species
  258. 9:26that's that's alive today um and you
  259. 9:29know this is a system that evolved from
  260. 9:32bacteria that's very similar to the
  261. 9:35opsin the light absorbing molecules that
  262. 9:37are in the insect eye it's a very
  263. 9:39primordial system it's organized very
  264. 9:41differently anatomically in the retina
  265. 9:43and to me it's actually one of the more
  266. 9:44beautiful systems in in all of us in
  267. 9:47fact the one thing that no one can seem
  268. 9:49to defeat you're never going to biohack
  269. 9:51away is circadian biology this this you
  270. 9:54know fluctu 24-hour fluctuation in
  271. 9:56energy and focus you know some people
  272. 9:58require less sleep but we we're all um
  273. 10:02more or less a slave to these mechanisms
  274. 10:04and you know it's a good thing that we
  275. 10:05are because it forces us to rest
  276. 10:07neuroplasticity occurs during sleep it
  277. 10:09push down adenosine you know it takes us
  278. 10:11through these natural es and cycles of
  279. 10:13cognition I'm obsessed by the idea that
  280. 10:15in sleep you know the conscious mind
  281. 10:17obviously is not in control the
  282. 10:19unconscious mind can geyser up thoughts
  283. 10:21the brain is organizing things more in
  284. 10:22terms of symbols time and space are very
  285. 10:25uh very organized very differently in
  286. 10:26dreams and there's a lot of information
  287. 10:28to be gleaned from dreams it's just that
  288. 10:30we don't yet understand what the symbols
  289. 10:32mean the kind of classic Freudian yian
  290. 10:35um interpretations are certainly not
  291. 10:36going to be complete but you know I I'm
  292. 10:38so grateful that we get this thing
  293. 10:40called sleep and I think thanks to the
  294. 10:42great Matt Walker We Now understand that
  295. 10:44the whole thing of all sleep would I'm
  296. 10:45dead is a really dumb mindset and you
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