“It’s to disrupt education…” — Transcript
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- 0:00We're we're thrilled to have the uh CEO
- 0:02of Moms for Liberty. Uh Tina Descovich
- 0:05is joining us. Tina, thank you for
- 0:07making time. This is such an important
- 0:10topic. Uh I'm not a parent. I'm an uncle
- 0:13like 19 times over and a great uncle
- 0:15like 18 times over cuz they're all
- 0:17having kids, too. Uh but what happens in
- 0:20our schools is so important and it feels
- 0:23like the other side understands that,
- 0:25too. Tell me about what's happening on
- 0:27May 1st.
- 0:29They do understand that and they are
- 0:31using our children and our students in
- 0:33America and our schoolhouses to create
- 0:36places of indoctrination instead of
- 0:38places of learning for reading and math
- 0:41and writing and, you know, English, all
- 0:44of the things that you and I learned as
- 0:46a child. So, on May 1st, uh driven by
- 0:49the teachers' unions and their ilk, uh
- 0:51they are doing a day of protest where
- 0:55they are um identifying schools mostly
- 0:58as places to hold these road to
- 1:00protests, you know, right outside the
- 1:01school limits or the school gates. And
- 1:04then they're having a walk-in. And so,
- 1:06instead of a walkout, because we
- 1:07criticized them so heavily last time
- 1:09when they did walkouts, now they're
- 1:10doing a walk-in so that students can
- 1:13protest outside and adults and then the
- 1:15students and teachers can walk in still
- 1:17in protest on a variety of issues and
- 1:20nothing that has to do with the failing
- 1:21education system, of course.
- 1:24Did they think we really wouldn't figure
- 1:25out that they're just changing the name
- 1:27from a walkout to a walk-in?
- 1:30So so silly to me. I I wish we could
- 1:33have a day of reading and maybe a day of
- 1:35math and maybe a day of history. I mean,
- 1:38real history, not the history that
- 1:40they're being taught. Uh this also seems
- 1:42to be funded from outside of the
- 1:45education system. This seems to be
- 1:48coming from uh quite a radical end of uh
- 1:52of the world. The the money that's
- 1:54coming in to force or at least fund all
- 1:57of these protests,
- 1:59Um uh not exactly with America's
- 2:02future in the the and America's values
- 2:05in mind.
- 2:06No, it's a really it's it's really well
- 2:08coordinated. And so, you can follow
- 2:10there's a numerous stories out there now
- 2:12that people can go read about it, and
- 2:13you can follow the money trail and see
- 2:15what's happening. And you can see their
- 2:16training. So, they're holding trainings
- 2:18right now to prepare everyone for May
- 2:201st, for May Day, for these protests and
- 2:22walk-ins to schools. And it's it's to
- 2:25disrupt it's to disrupt education. And
- 2:28it's to get all eyes on them and to make
- 2:29it look like they have a greater voice
- 2:32than they really do. I mean, they
- 2:34they've become experts, I would say,
- 2:35over the last decade over the last
- 2:37decade on how to hold these protests and
- 2:40rallies to get media attention. They
- 2:41know if they do it in front of a school,
- 2:42they'll get even more attention. They
- 2:44know if they include students that it'll
- 2:45look that'll pull at people's
- 2:47heartstrings. So, they they are winning
- 2:48the PR war again when it's only a
- 2:50fraction of America that really sides
- 2:52and believes with already sides with
- 2:54them and believes with what they
- 2:55believe.
- 2:56So, if they are winning the PR war,
- 2:59Tina, how how do we fight it? What do we
- 3:01do? What's the answer?
- 3:04Uh you know, first of all, we do have to
- 3:06fight back. I know I recently attended
- 3:09uh a meeting in DC with a lot of
- 3:10conservative leaders, and I'll be
- 3:12honest, I was It's a closed-door
- 3:14meeting, but I was shocked. Uh we were
- 3:16having a discussion about press and uh
- 3:18doing press interviews and how to handle
- 3:20them and and how you're supposed to
- 3:22respond. And I one after another, I saw
- 3:25leaders of other organizations say, "I
- 3:27don't talk to the press. I don't trust
- 3:28the press, so I don't I don't talk to
- 3:30them. I don't take interviews. I don't
- 3:32even answer their calls." And I I just I
- 3:34looked at the person next to me, and I
- 3:35was like,
- 3:37"How are we ever going to win hearts and
- 3:39minds in the national conversations if
- 3:41we are making decisions in fear, and we
- 3:43are afraid to go out and do the hard
- 3:45interviews and stand for what we believe
- 3:47in?"
- 3:48Yeah, the uh the idea of not talking to
- 3:51press to me is a surrender. If you're
- 3:53not willing to engage the press, then
- 3:55you're saying, "Uh You guys just say
- 3:58what you want about us. That we'll deal
- 4:00with it afterwards." And that means
- 4:02we've ceded that turf. And I know there
- 4:04are only a handful of of outlets in the
- 4:08conservative world that will support a a
- 4:11discussion from both sides. The left is
- 4:14only going to give you one side of it.
- 4:15So, the the answer is really to speak
- 4:18up. Now, about 6 7 years ago, it seems
- 4:22like school board meetings were a place
- 4:25that we saw the seeds of change and
- 4:28control in the in the country happen.
- 4:30And I know Moms for Liberty was a big
- 4:32part of that. And I watched it happen
- 4:34not far from me in Bucks County in
- 4:37Pennsylvania. And I've seen it in some
- 4:39other areas around the country.
- 4:41Uh
- 4:42is it that we have to go back into
- 4:44school boards again and push and push
- 4:47and push again to try and take back that
- 4:50control cuz I I I feel like they
- 4:53they came running back in while we
- 4:55weren't looking.
- 4:57They
- 4:58They absolutely are. This is uh you're
- 5:01talking issues that are very near and
- 5:02dear to my heart. So, I served on a
- 5:04school board from 2016 to 2020. And I
- 5:06saw firsthand Red for Ed coming in
- 5:09sometimes up to a thousand of them
- 5:11chanting for whatever issue they were uh
- 5:14advocating. Moms Demand Action again,
- 5:16red shirts came in advocating after the
- 5:18Parkland massacre to keep SROs and
- 5:21others out of our schools. So, I saw how
- 5:23effective they are at school board
- 5:25meetings, which is one of the reasons
- 5:26Moms for Liberty has blue shirts.
- 5:29And we we're following the same playbook
- 5:31in a lot of ways. And you know, we
- 5:32launched in 2021. I do believe we have
- 5:35to um
- 5:37not just not just defend that ground,
- 5:38but take that ground. And we can't give
- 5:41up. And what I'm seeing, you know, after
- 5:43schools were reopened and masks were off
- 5:45kids,
- 5:46uh parents are like, "Oh, everything's
- 5:48fine now." And I'm like, "No, no, no,
- 5:49no. Remember all of the things that were
- 5:50streamed into your living room in 2020
- 5:53and 2021?" They're still being taught.
- 5:55They're actually getting worse, and some
- 5:56of the policies are worse. So, we keep,
- 5:58you know, waving the flag. We are
- 6:00shouting from the rooftops. We're trying
- 6:02to do it in a joyful way, but there are
- 6:04still very concerning things going on
- 6:06our schools, and you can just tell with
- 6:07this May Day event, uh you know, how how
- 6:10they're not giving up and not seeding
- 6:11any ground.
- 6:13Well, is there any way to to infiltrate,
- 6:16I know that's a that's a war term. Is
- 6:18there any way to stage competing events?
- 6:21I played a clip earlier where
- 6:23Al Sharpton is not going to celebrate
- 6:26the 250th
- 6:27anniversary of America's birth. He wants
- 6:30to stage his own event to compete with
- 6:32it, and I I think his is all about a
- 6:34money grab, but is there any way to
- 6:36counter protest the May Day
- 6:39uh walkout walk-in activity to create
- 6:42something to compete with it, or is it
- 6:44that we just have to be uh there to
- 6:47counter it with information?
- 6:49So, I would not advise against counter
- 6:52protest all across the country. Then, we
- 6:54are no better than them doing them at
- 6:55the schoolhouse doors and and
- 6:57influencing and and honestly, we saw
- 6:59what's happened with the ICE protests
- 7:00that were near schools. They were
- 7:02dangerous. I mean, there's videos all
- 7:04over X and other places where moms in
- 7:06tears scared for their children and what
- 7:08was happening out in front of schools.
- 7:09We don't want to be part of that. Also,
- 7:12we don't have the funds equivalent to
- 7:14what they have to train and coordinate
- 7:16weeks and months in advance to uh
- 7:19disseminate across the country. We have
- 7:20to work a much smarter on a much leaner
- 7:23budget, and we can absolutely do it, but
- 7:25we have to be smart. We have to be uh
- 7:27coordinated, and we have to work
- 7:28together uh with other conservative
- 7:30organizations, which also is sometimes
- 7:32challenging. It's really challenging. I
- 7:35know I was there in the early days of
- 7:36the Tea Party and the 9/11 groups, and
- 7:39everybody wants their turf. So, it is
- 7:40tough. And unless you have a charismatic
- 7:43leader at the front, it's hard to herd
- 7:46all of these liberty-loving minds
- 7:48together cuz they are like cats. They're
- 7:51going to go at various They're going to
- 7:52go to wherever the the pointer catches
- 7:55their eye. But, you brought up a really
- 7:57important issue, and that's money.
- 7:59How is it being allowed that the
- 8:00teachers unions, the largest teachers
- 8:04union in the country, is allowed to put
- 8:05so much money into funding this protest?
- 8:12Funding the protest, but look at their
- 8:13political donations, especially the NEA
- 8:15and the national teachers unions. I
- 8:17think it's like 98% of their donations
- 8:20go to Democrats over Republicans. They
- 8:23are a political radical political
- 8:26ideology organization, and they have
- 8:28complete access to your children all day
- 8:30long in the schoolhouse. Um it's time
- 8:33for parents to really wake up. It's time
- 8:34for Congress to revoke the NEA charter.
- 8:37You know, that should have been done
- 8:39decades ago. They have the oldest
- 8:41charter and the only union charter in
- 8:43our country. Um they are not part of the
- 8:45American fabric. They are trying to
- 8:47destroy the American fabric.
- 8:49Has anyone Any member of Congress made
- 8:52that proposal? Is there any Anybody
- 8:54who's an ally for us?
- 8:56Yeah, so last year we got Congressman
- 8:58Mark Harris in North Carolina to sponsor
- 9:01the bill. We went up to the Capitol. We
- 9:02held a a rally, you know, a press
- 9:05conference with him
- 9:06and several other Congress like
- 9:08Congresswoman Mary Miller and some
- 9:10others got it. It did I don't think it's
- 9:12made any progress, though.
- 9:15That's a shame. I know we have a lot
- 9:17We've trying to get the government fully
- 9:18open again, too. So, there's a lot of
- 9:20things that are on the table.
- 9:22>> They're just trying to get back to work
- 9:23cuz, you know, it's such a hard job for
- 9:25them. We have to have some sympathy that
- 9:27they are accomplishing absolutely
- 9:28nothing right now. I'm sensing a little
- 9:31bit of sarcasm in your voice, young
- 9:34lady.
- 9:36Tina Descovich is right.
- 9:37>> How much do you travel? Like you have
- 9:39you waited how long have your lines been
- 9:41in TSA? So it's it's not good out there.
- 9:44Well, well, they don't have to
- 9:45standardize. They're escorted to the
- 9:47front of the line.
- 9:50Well, I don't either anymore. I had to I
- 9:51had to give up my retina so that I could
- 9:53use clear so that I could actually make
- 9:55it on a plane and get to where I need to
- 9:57go. So yeah, I have a little animosity.
- 10:00I I can tell. I can tell it's leaking
- 10:02through. I I want to make one last pitch
- 10:04for anybody who's listening, anybody
- 10:06who's watching. Uh the school board
- 10:08issue and the the the the
- 10:11axiom is all politics are local and the
- 10:15school board issue is so important to
- 10:17me. There's so many people who think you
- 10:18have to be a parent in a school district
- 10:21in order to run for school board. That's
- 10:23typically not the case. Anybody who's
- 10:26interested, anybody who may be retired
- 10:28or semi-retired has an interest in
- 10:30pushing a more conservative uh agenda, a
- 10:33liberty-loving agenda can run for school
- 10:36boards in most areas. Yes, no?
- 10:40Oh, absolutely. And Moms for
- 10:41Liberty.org, we have one of the only
- 10:44school board training toolkits for free.
- 10:46You can download download. You can ask
- 10:48for us to come to your community and
- 10:49hold a winning workshop where we train
- 10:51you how to run for school board. I think
- 10:52we've trained 120 candidates so far this
- 10:54year. Uh we have at least 20 more of
- 10:56these that we have already on the
- 10:58calendar. We're willing to come to you.
- 10:59So
- 11:00uh use us in this area. Let us help um
- 11:03you with the knowledge and experience
- 11:05that we have to prepare you to serve on
- 11:06your school board. See, this is the the
- 11:09the critical thing and I I'm I'm calling
- 11:11out to some of my brothers and sisters
- 11:13who are not full-time anymore, might be
- 11:16crossing the finish line of regular
- 11:18employment, but want to make sure you
- 11:20plant a tree of liberty today and that
- 11:23starts at the school boards and you can
- 11:25get involved. MomsforLiberty.org
- 11:29will help train you. If you're
- 11:30interested, you should go there. Tina,
- 11:32thanks to you and everybody who's out
- 11:34there fighting to make sure that the
- 11:36schools are actually teaching reading,
- 11:38writing, arithmetic, history, all that
- 11:40stuff. Maybe even civics. Wouldn't that
- 11:42be great? We appreciate you.
- 11:45Thank you.
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