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  1. 0:02Nestly we are very big company and some
  2. 0:06of the function I have to you know like
  3. 0:10go through to other person lah. So it's
  4. 0:13not that all the information that I can
  5. 0:17have access immediately lah I have to
  6. 0:19check with the PIC lah because
  7. 0:23your bu just now you share with me your
  8. 0:26followup questions is more on the like
  9. 0:30details and then you want to know like
  10. 0:33the the examples and then how often is
  11. 0:36the KPI
  12. 0:38is reviewed right so this is a very
  13. 0:41specific
  14. 0:42actually and
  15. 0:45from one department to another
  16. 0:46department there is no standards right
  17. 0:50the frequency of the review of the
  18. 0:52performance of KPI so it really depends
  19. 0:56on the department itself and those that
  20. 0:59you ask in the followup questions is
  21. 1:02more details.
  22. 1:04Some of it I don't have the answers now
  23. 1:07because I have to check with the
  24. 1:11specific lah department lah because your
  25. 1:15macam most of it is the innovation lah.
  26. 1:18Innovation and supply chain
  27. 1:22see
  28. 1:22>> a
  29. 1:24right. So whatever that I know I can
  30. 1:27share lah.
  31. 1:28to answer
  32. 1:30I mean in return because I believe from
  33. 1:34this interview you have to you know
  34. 1:37publish something or put in the report
  35. 1:39or summary something right so in order
  36. 1:42for you to put it in return I better
  37. 1:46answer the interview in return as well
  38. 1:48lah after I clarify a facts or the data
  39. 1:53with the aa department itself lah.
  40. 1:57Faham kan?
  41. 1:58>> Faham. Faham.
  42. 2:00Because in Nesley
  43. 2:02from your questions actually I have to
  44. 2:05go through with a few departments is not
  45. 2:09from one department that can answer all
  46. 2:11those questions ya because Nestley such
  47. 2:14a big companies and we have a lot of
  48. 2:17departments and then you know from in
  49. 2:21the same department also there a lot of
  50. 2:24you know people with different functions
  51. 2:27so it release
  52. 2:59But maybe we just go through your follow
  53. 3:03up questions eh
  54. 3:05atau you want to start first kan start
  55. 3:09pada awal boleh?
  56. 3:11>> Boleh.
  57. 3:13>> Okey.
  58. 3:15Assalamualaikum and a very good day to
  59. 3:18Puan Hazlin. First of all, thank you
  60. 3:21very much for accepting our invitation
  61. 3:24for taking the time to join us today
  62. 3:27despite your busy schedule. We truly
  63. 3:30appreciate this opportunity to interview
  64. 3:33you and are grateful for your
  65. 3:35willingness to share your knowledge and
  66. 3:37experience with us. So before we begin
  67. 3:42may we kindly request your permission to
  68. 3:45record this interview.
  69. 3:47This recording will be used for academic
  70. 3:51purpose and the part of a university
  71. 3:53assignment.
  72. 3:55But this recording will be shared with
  73. 3:58who?
  74. 4:00>> No, just appendix to assignment only.
  75. 4:04But as I mention to you because I only
  76. 4:07have until 11:30 today I have other
  77. 4:10meetings after this. So yeah, you can
  78. 4:13record this sessions. But I don't want
  79. 4:16this recording to be shared with other
  80. 4:20person without my consent.
  81. 4:23>> Okey thank you very much puan. Now let
  82. 4:26me briefly introduce ourself. My name is
  83. 4:29Rabata Alishah Maisara and together with
  84. 4:32my teammates is Wan Nursahaida and Ainur
  85. 4:35Mardia. We are student from Universiti
  86. 4:38Sains Islam Malaysia a program a
  87. 4:41Bachelor of Muamalat administration from
  88. 4:44year two and we are currently conducting
  89. 4:46a study entitled innovative supply chain
  90. 4:50ecosystem in Malaysia and Indonesia on
  91. 4:53the cost of human resource management.
  92. 4:56So this purpose of interview is to gain
  93. 5:00a better understanding of a company
  94. 5:02Nesle Malaysia for a supply chain
  95. 5:05ecosystem particularly in the areas of
  96. 5:08innovation,
  97. 5:10a digital transformation,
  98. 5:12sustainability, human resource and a
  99. 5:15future industry development.
  100. 5:18So before we begin with our interview
  101. 5:22question, could you please introduce
  102. 5:24yourself and briefly describe your role
  103. 5:27at Nesle Malaysia.
  104. 5:31>> Okey thank you for having this sessions
  105. 5:35and I apologize because the previous
  106. 5:38session has to be reach scheduled due to
  107. 5:40unforesen circumstances. So my name is
  108. 5:44Hazlins. I've been in Nesle. I'm the
  109. 5:47hala operations manager for Nesle
  110. 5:49Malaysia.
  111. 5:50been in Nesley almost 17 years. So
  112. 5:54basically
  113. 5:56for this function basically I overseing
  114. 5:59all the hala activities in Nesle
  115. 6:01Malaysia and part of that because the
  116. 6:05Nesle Malaysia is the hal center of
  117. 6:07competence so we also supporting other
  118. 6:10Nesle companies around the world who in
  119. 6:14term of the halal application
  120. 6:16certifications audit and also provide
  121. 6:19some technical advice and guidance
  122. 6:23regards to the technic of the hal
  123. 6:24stifications and implementations.
  124. 6:27So a in doing my job at the moment
  125. 6:32basically because my background is from
  126. 6:34factories I spent the last
  127. 6:38a in the first seven years a in my
  128. 6:42career in factories in one of the our
  129. 6:45factories in Shah Alam complex and and I
  130. 6:48involve in this department called
  131. 6:51application group which is more you know
  132. 6:55involved in introducing a new product,
  133. 6:57new recipes
  134. 6:59to the productions and then also involve
  135. 7:01in term of the you know new packaging
  136. 7:05development cost savings in in related
  137. 7:08to the you know like business
  138. 7:11contingency plan or cavings or the new
  139. 7:15trends and sustainability so basically
  140. 7:19that will be a little bit about myself
  141. 7:23if you don't have any questions on the
  142. 7:28personal introductions y we can move to
  143. 7:31the next questions. Okey to begin we
  144. 7:35start for section A company background
  145. 7:39we would like to learn more about a
  146. 7:41nesle Malaysia by discussing the
  147. 7:43company's background and its role with
  148. 7:45the supply chain ecosystem
  149. 7:48this will help us to gain a better
  150. 7:50understanding of the company before
  151. 7:52moving on to the more specific
  152. 7:56and the following questions. So aa my
  153. 7:59question for question a can you briefly
  154. 8:02describe a nestle Malaysia role within
  155. 8:04the supply chain ecosystem
  156. 8:08so basically n Malaysia is the one of
  157. 8:11the leading food and beverage
  158. 8:13manufacturers in the country as you know
  159. 8:15our company is started in Switzerland in
  160. 8:191866
  161. 8:20our founder is Henry Nesley and
  162. 8:24in Malaysia we have started since 1912
  163. 8:27and now aa Nesle Malaysia is also public
  164. 8:29listed. So basically in term of the our
  165. 8:33supply chain a ecosystem it compasses
  166. 8:36sourcing of the raw materials
  167. 8:38manufacturing warehousing transportation
  168. 8:40distributions and delivery to retailers
  169. 8:42and consumers. So because of our you
  170. 8:46know experience and
  171. 8:49service in Malaysia so we have a I think
  172. 8:52some of the our longterm partners at the
  173. 8:55distribution channel is is a maybe the
  174. 8:58second or third generation so meaning to
  175. 9:01say all these distributors that
  176. 9:04distribute our product to consumers
  177. 9:06basically they have been with Nesley you
  178. 9:09know since the beginning and they are
  179. 9:11very loyal to our company and works hand
  180. 9:14in hand with
  181. 9:16a us. So
  182. 9:18some of them has been with Nesle and
  183. 9:20embedded the the Nesle values and
  184. 9:23culture in their companies as well. So a
  185. 9:26meaning to say for Nesley we don't sell
  186. 9:29our product directly to the consumers.
  187. 9:31We have our distributors
  188. 9:34appointed distributors
  189. 9:36across the whole Malaysia and this is
  190. 9:39the a so-called
  191. 9:43a representative for our companies that
  192. 9:47you know deal directly with the you know
  193. 9:50the shop or some other channels like 7E
  194. 9:54or a other retailers. So
  195. 9:58for Nesle
  196. 10:01with the direct consumers ya so we
  197. 10:03always have to work closely with our
  198. 10:05suppliers our logistic providers because
  199. 10:08as you know that for NLE we don't have
  200. 10:12our own transport we use a third party
  201. 10:14service provider so we have to work with
  202. 10:17them very closely and of course we also
  203. 10:20work with the regulatory authorities
  204. 10:22like MOH or JAKIM for example And of
  205. 10:26course last but not least our retail
  206. 10:28partners that to ensure that product
  207. 10:30that delivered to our consumers are safe
  208. 10:34and then very efficient I mean meeting
  209. 10:37the demand from the a consumers and of
  210. 10:40course a is sustainable. Okey.
  211. 10:44>> Okey thank you puan. A that information
  212. 10:48give us understanding of Nesle Malaysia
  213. 10:51roles within the supply chain ecosystem.
  214. 10:54So for the next question what are the
  215. 10:57main products managed through your
  216. 10:59supply chain ecosystem
  217. 11:01operation?
  218. 11:03So basically
  219. 11:04for Malaysia I think
  220. 11:07those we have a wide range of product
  221. 11:10actually we have from FNB we have a
  222. 11:13daily products and then of course we
  223. 11:16have coffee confectionary we have
  224. 11:19culinary product like Maggi and then
  225. 11:21nutrition we have a ser for the baby
  226. 11:25food and some RTD ready to drink
  227. 11:28products like Milo and Nescafe and of
  228. 11:31course we also have some health science
  229. 11:33product health science product is not a
  230. 11:36very you know well known in Malaysia but
  231. 11:40we do import some of the this health
  232. 11:43science product like
  233. 11:45some a capsules or some nutrient
  234. 11:49diabetic that specific for certain
  235. 11:52consumers that in needs lah. But this
  236. 11:54product is not manufactured in Malaysia.
  237. 11:58This one we imported from outside
  238. 12:01Malaysia which is from other Nestle
  239. 12:02factories but of course we ensure it is
  240. 12:06halal certified before it delivers or
  241. 12:09before it distributed to our consumers
  242. 12:11in Malaysia.
  243. 12:13>> Thank you puan. So that that's all from
  244. 12:17section A for company background. Now I
  245. 12:20would like to invite my teammate Suhaida
  246. 12:23to continue with a section B for a
  247. 12:25supply chain innovation and a digital
  248. 12:28transformation.
  249. 12:33>> Thank you Alishah. So I will be question
  250. 12:36about section B innovation and supply
  251. 12:39chain.
  252. 12:40Next question is what innovative
  253. 12:43practice or system has NLE Malaysia
  254. 12:46introduced in a supply chain operation.
  255. 12:51Okey so basically of course with this
  256. 12:54era of digitalization and automated AI
  257. 12:58so of course NLE has adopted various
  258. 13:02digital and solutions
  259. 13:05but this is more at our distribution
  260. 13:07centers in this Sijangkang actually we
  261. 13:11have
  262. 13:13office in that area and is more focusing
  263. 13:16on the distribution centers ya so
  264. 13:19Basically in term of the of course
  265. 13:22when we do business we must have a very
  266. 13:24good planning system so we already have
  267. 13:27a system that integrated a planning
  268. 13:29system and then the warehouse management
  269. 13:31system in term of the transportation
  270. 13:33management system and data analytics
  271. 13:36tools to improve visibility and decision
  272. 13:39making across the supply chain because
  273. 13:41as of today because we have to know a
  274. 13:44like a in term of the products a on chef
  275. 13:48like a which product is selling very
  276. 13:51fast, which product is still in the
  277. 13:53market maybe quite slow in term of the
  278. 13:56selling and then from there actually we
  279. 13:58will work on what product we need to you
  280. 14:01know produce more we can plan for the
  281. 14:03raw material purchase and then in term
  282. 14:05of the delivering we have to also ensure
  283. 14:08there is no heat cup in term of a you
  284. 14:10know deliver the products maybe from
  285. 14:12factories to the distribution centers
  286. 14:14and then from the distribution centers
  287. 14:16to the retailers for example so we have
  288. 14:19a a system that to check in the real
  289. 14:22time where is our products and who buy
  290. 14:25products which products that sell you
  291. 14:28know a fast in which area. So from there
  292. 14:31we can a
  293. 14:33better planning in term of the resources
  294. 14:36raw materials and the rest of the you
  295. 14:39know support function can work very
  296. 14:42closely to support their business.
  297. 14:45So basically from this you know
  298. 14:48innovative practices of system basically
  299. 14:51it
  300. 14:52is a very good
  301. 14:55you know advantage to all the support
  302. 14:57functions so that we can ensure our
  303. 15:01business is doing smooth and without
  304. 15:04interaction
  305. 15:10follow question
  306. 15:16when were the system introduced and
  307. 15:19based on your experience what was the
  308. 15:22biggest adjustment the company had to
  309. 15:25make when implementing this digital
  310. 15:27system
  311. 15:29>> I don't have information as I mention to
  312. 15:31you because this is not the area of a
  313. 15:37that I working on at the moment because
  314. 15:40as I mention is in another building is
  315. 15:43in another office like Nestle only one
  316. 15:47office we have a a few a few other
  317. 15:49office so basically I don't have the
  318. 15:53data that when we introduce this but
  319. 15:55it's already been a few years already we
  320. 15:58started this systems and then when we
  321. 16:01introduce this system it's not like um
  322. 16:03you know 100% change of course we
  323. 16:06introduce the system gradually ya so so
  324. 16:10I believe is has been a several years
  325. 16:12that we introduce this system and in
  326. 16:15term of the adjustment because is is not
  327. 16:18a like 100% changes overnight you know
  328. 16:22is when we do a changes is always
  329. 16:25a we do it a you know
  330. 16:29bit a bit we don't do like 100% aa so
  331. 16:33means that
  332. 16:35we can manage it and normally a we also
  333. 16:38have a support system that
  334. 16:40or backup
  335. 16:42you know support that ensure that
  336. 16:44everything is in order before we move
  337. 16:46100% so in term of the challenges i
  338. 16:50think because we are very careful
  339. 16:52whenever we want to do some changes in
  340. 16:55the company and we don't very
  341. 16:57drastically do the changes we always do
  342. 17:01a study first and then a really do a
  343. 17:04tasting a trial before we move
  344. 17:07completely a from a you know the
  345. 17:09traditional aa way or method to the new
  346. 17:13system. Yep.
  347. 17:18>> Thank you puan.
  348. 17:20So the next question is which innovation
  349. 17:23has had the greatest impact on
  350. 17:25efficiency or cost reduction?
  351. 17:30>> So basically this innovation is not much
  352. 17:33in term of the cost reductions because
  353. 17:36you know for this one we don't like
  354. 17:40cutting people you know in order to
  355. 17:45implement this system so it's still the
  356. 17:47same empower but of Of course when we
  357. 17:50introduce system it impacts in term of
  358. 17:53the efficiency. As I mention just now
  359. 17:55when we have a integrated system
  360. 17:57everybody have the visibility and all
  361. 18:00the function support can do their work
  362. 18:03very closely and collaborate very
  363. 18:05closely with one to another and we
  364. 18:07ensure that we can support the business
  365. 18:10and ensure that we meet the you know the
  366. 18:13demand and the a ensuring that there is
  367. 18:17no hickup in term of our business
  368. 18:19operations and we meet
  369. 18:22customers expectation in the very short
  370. 18:25time. Yida
  371. 18:42open mic
  372. 18:46for the next question. How does Nestle
  373. 18:48Malaysia evaluate
  374. 18:51whether a supply chain innovation is
  375. 18:54successful?
  376. 18:56So of course a with or without this you
  377. 19:01know system we already have a a KPI
  378. 19:05review. So this KBI review we will
  379. 19:09review it
  380. 19:11normally is a quarterly basis or you
  381. 19:14know yearly basis for example but
  382. 19:16however it really depends if
  383. 19:19when we introduce a project or system of
  384. 19:23course we have a a very frequent follow
  385. 19:26up and review with the team members to
  386. 19:28ensure that the system is function well
  387. 19:32and it meet the the objective and
  388. 19:34purpose. So it based on the KPI that we
  389. 19:38put when we introduce this project this
  390. 19:43innovations then we will you know
  391. 19:45measure whether it meets the KPI or not
  392. 19:49for each of the you know deliverables
  393. 19:53that we
  394. 19:54you know target from the beginning of
  395. 19:57the project so we have a a like a
  396. 20:00frequent review with the team members
  397. 20:03and from the review we will measure
  398. 20:05whether all the KPI is meet or whether
  399. 20:08is there any adjustment needed is there
  400. 20:11any you know some
  401. 20:13amendment or some further discussion is
  402. 20:16needed to ensure that the project is
  403. 20:19successful but I can
  404. 20:22assure that the system is work very well
  405. 20:26and at the moment the the the team is
  406. 20:29still evaluating and see whether is
  407. 20:32there any further improvement needed
  408. 20:35for this innovation
  409. 20:41and I next to follow up question
  410. 20:46how often is the performance of this
  411. 20:48innovation review
  412. 20:52>> okey how often so as I mention earlier
  413. 20:57normally a for each of the department we
  414. 21:00have a I think the
  415. 21:04most the the nestle way we have the
  416. 21:07review in the monthly basis so normally
  417. 21:10every month we will review all the KPI
  418. 21:14that set at the beginning of the year
  419. 21:17and of course during this review if
  420. 21:20there is any hikup or is there any
  421. 21:23escalation we will share with the team
  422. 21:25members and then we will find a solution
  423. 21:29on you know to ensure whether a KPI can
  424. 21:34be meet or maybe some you know
  425. 21:36adjustment need to be needed and
  426. 21:38amendment need to be done. So this is a
  427. 21:42normally discussed in a monthly basis.
  428. 21:49>> Thank you puan. We truly appreciate your
  429. 21:52explanation. It has given us a clear
  430. 21:55understanding of how NLE Malaysia
  431. 21:57measures the success of its supply
  432. 22:00innovation.
  433. 22:01So the next section is digital
  434. 22:03transformation.
  435. 22:06How was how has digital technology
  436. 22:09transform communication and coordination
  437. 22:12within your supply chain?
  438. 22:14So of course in term of the digital
  439. 22:16platform it enable faster communications
  440. 22:20and real time informations. Ya. So this
  441. 22:24information and combination is done with
  442. 22:28our suppliers, our manufacturers
  443. 22:31you know and also our of course our
  444. 22:33logistic providers and back to our
  445. 22:37customers. So from here it will ensure
  446. 22:42or improve in term of the our
  447. 22:45coordinations and response we can
  448. 22:48response very fast and of course in term
  449. 22:52of you know if there's any decision
  450. 22:55making we can this can be done very
  451. 22:58proactively lah.
  452. 23:03Thank you fine your explanation has help
  453. 23:06on better understand. The next question
  454. 23:09is does NES Malaysia use real time data
  455. 23:13system or inventory management logistic
  456. 23:15or demand forecast?
  457. 23:18>> Yep. So definitely I think most of the
  458. 23:21companies in the industry we are they
  459. 23:24are using the real time data system a
  460. 23:27and normally this real time is very
  461. 23:30important for us to monitor our
  462. 23:33inventory levels and also to track our
  463. 23:36logistic performance and then of course
  464. 23:38to support our demand forecasting and
  465. 23:42of course to identify any potential
  466. 23:45supply chain disruptions before you know
  467. 23:48it happen or before it escalate and
  468. 23:50disrupt our business operations.
  469. 23:57>> Thank you puan. We appreciate your
  470. 23:59valuable
  471. 24:01answer. It is very insightful to learn
  472. 24:03how real time data support operational
  473. 24:06efficiency and decision making. The last
  474. 24:09question is how prepared are employees
  475. 24:12to att to digital transformation
  476. 24:15initiative.
  477. 24:18So because for Nesley
  478. 24:21I must say it's a very good company and
  479. 24:26the one of the culture is continuous
  480. 24:29learning ya so basically
  481. 24:32in term of the how employees can adapt
  482. 24:36to this digital transformation
  483. 24:39initiative is of course through these
  484. 24:42learning programs ya so it organized by
  485. 24:45our human human resource and from here
  486. 24:48actually there's a lot of programs that
  487. 24:51are planned by our human resource and
  488. 24:53our technical team to ensure that this
  489. 24:57digital capability building there is a
  490. 24:59coaching and of course the hands on
  491. 25:03exposure on the new technologies so
  492. 25:05basically
  493. 25:07is is a it always a
  494. 25:10a culture of a positive mindset and open
  495. 25:14to the you know innovation and
  496. 25:18adaptability to the new system that you
  497. 25:22know introduced by the company and of
  498. 25:24course this changes is to support the
  499. 25:28business and to ensure that we sustain
  500. 25:32in the industry and we as the you know
  501. 25:38assets or you know resources for the
  502. 25:41company we will you know work very
  503. 25:44closely with the management to ensure
  504. 25:48that you know
  505. 25:50all the business plan and also
  506. 25:54you know
  507. 25:55whatever in the future direction set by
  508. 25:59the company we understand and if there
  509. 26:03is any you know
  510. 26:06a questions or queries you know in
  511. 26:10regards to this changes we always have a
  512. 26:13a frequent
  513. 26:15you know sessions with the management
  514. 26:17through town hall and then we have
  515. 26:19others
  516. 26:21you know platform and sessions to raise
  517. 26:24our concerns and
  518. 26:27as far as from my experience you know
  519. 26:31the the staff
  520. 26:33is very open very positive and we are
  521. 26:37very good in adapting to the you know
  522. 26:40new system and of course to this digital
  523. 26:44transformation initiative that introduc
  524. 26:47the company.
  525. 26:50Okey,
  526. 26:52thank you puan for the follow question
  527. 26:55could you share an example of a coaching
  528. 26:59or training session conducted by the
  529. 27:01organization and what was
  530. 27:05>> so basically in Nestley there's a lot of
  531. 27:08e-learning program ya because to suit
  532. 27:11everybody time is very challenging ya
  533. 27:15with the company like Nesley so normally
  534. 27:18we have this e-learning introduced by
  535. 27:21our human resource. So one of the recent
  536. 27:25training that we have is on AI you know
  537. 27:28and this AI also training is very good
  538. 27:32because it shows us how you know we can
  539. 27:36use AI
  540. 27:38of course with some limitations because
  541. 27:40not everything that from this AI can you
  542. 27:44know give a a you know correct data or
  543. 27:46correct informations so we still have to
  544. 27:49filter whatever that
  545. 27:51you know the result from the AI but of
  546. 27:54course some of the function that we can
  547. 27:56use from the AI that you know can make
  548. 28:01sure that we can do you know the task in
  549. 28:06a in a short time and faster than the
  550. 28:09previous and the I think the most
  551. 28:12interesting about this
  552. 28:14a new AI is is how they can help us to
  553. 28:19you know a a compiling data from the the
  554. 28:24files that we have then they can help to
  555. 28:26you know do the comparison and a lot of
  556. 28:29things that can be done in a very short
  557. 28:31time so that's the good thing that we
  558. 28:33learn and we know about this from the
  559. 28:36e-learning that you know shared by our
  560. 28:39human resource and then
  561. 28:41one of it because our HR make it
  562. 28:44mandatory to all the staff to attend
  563. 28:46this e-learning and it track so I mean
  564. 28:49whether you like it or not you have to
  565. 28:50complete the courses
  566. 28:52or else they will send several reminders
  567. 28:55to you. So of course
  568. 28:57because of that
  569. 28:59we receive a lot of new knowledge and
  570. 29:03you know this has been a culture inle
  571. 29:05because
  572. 29:06e-learning i think I don't even remember
  573. 29:09when we started it I think quite
  574. 29:11sometimes already but this is a very
  575. 29:14good you know approach by nesley whereby
  576. 29:18we have ample time to complete like
  577. 29:21normally they will give this mandatory
  578. 29:22training to be completed maybe
  579. 29:25within in two or three months. So we
  580. 29:27just you know very flexible. You can
  581. 29:30plan your time when you can you know
  582. 29:33complete the e-learning. Yep.
  583. 29:37>> Thank you puan. And how did it help
  584. 29:40employees adapt to new technologies?
  585. 29:44>> A mention because some of the tools that
  586. 29:47a for example a inl now we have this
  587. 29:51cilot. So this cilot
  588. 29:54we will
  589. 29:58sorry because 1130 and I have another
  590. 30:03call with IIUM
  591. 30:06after this
  592. 30:09perhaps
  593. 30:10I have to end our session now but I will
  594. 30:15answer all the followup questions that
  595. 30:19given by Fatimah earlier
  596. 30:21So I will put it in return and from
  597. 30:25there if you have any other further
  598. 30:29questions or you need more examples so
  599. 30:31we can communicate a I mean maybe
  600. 30:35through writing or WhatsApp if you don't
  601. 30:37mind but I'm very sorry
  602. 30:40already have another calls a and it's is
  603. 30:43very good to have this session with you
  604. 30:46and I apologize I cannot spend more time
  605. 30:50for this session
  606. 30:51I hope all the inputs is you know
  607. 30:55valuable and can help you with this
  608. 30:58subjects lah. Okey
  609. 31:01>> thank you very much puan.
  610. 31:03Welcome.
  611. 31:04>> Welcome.
  612. 31:14>> So a
  613. 31:18further questions
  614. 31:20you can WhatsApp to me then I will
  615. 31:23response a via writing lah. Okey.
  616. 31:30>> Thank you puan. Welcome. Okey. So that's
  617. 31:34it ya. Okey. Thank you so much.
  618. 31:36Assalamualaikum.

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