Interaction with Period Talk- Destigmatizing, and Educating on Periods. — Transcript
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- 0:02okay
- 0:03all right so i think we can begin this
- 0:05and
- 0:06first of all thank you so much for
- 0:07joining this call
- 0:09and i would like to introduce myself my
- 0:12name
- 0:14team is
- 0:16and today you know i would i am very
- 0:18honored to you know just take an
- 0:20interview call and yes just being there
- 0:23because i you know i went through your
- 0:25account and i was like these people are
- 0:27so inspiring at such a young age you
- 0:29know you are doing amazing job
- 0:32but uh before starting the call first of
- 0:34all i would like
- 0:36you know i would like to ask you to
- 0:38introduce yourself separately or
- 0:40individually
- 0:41so that people can
- 0:42know yeah so my name is kuhu bhaji um
- 0:47i'm 17 years old and i'm one of the
- 0:49three co-founders of period talk
- 0:52i'm nikki morty i'm also 17 i use she
- 0:55her pronouns
- 0:56and i'm one of the three co-founders we
- 0:58all live in the greater boston area
- 1:01hi i'm akshika chawate i'm also 17 and
- 1:04used to pronounce she her
- 1:06i'm a senior in high school and will be
- 1:08going to cornell next year for college
- 1:16thank you
- 1:17okay um so i just want to know like what
- 1:20was the inspiration behind starting the
- 1:22organization like how did you know that
- 1:25you know you want to do something for
- 1:26this cause
- 1:28yeah so we all three came together for
- 1:31the first time uh through an
- 1:32entrepreneurship competition it's called
- 1:35tye and it's based in boston uh and
- 1:37basically in this competition we were
- 1:39told to pick a bug or passion which is
- 1:42how they framed it and translate that
- 1:44into some sort of startup or company so
- 1:47the three of us as you know 14 15 year
- 1:50olds in high school had much experience
- 1:52with the stigma and shame that surrounds
- 1:55menstruation um and that was kind of our
- 1:57immediate thought of what we wanted to
- 1:59do and what we wanted to target um
- 2:01specifically we wanted to kind of see
- 2:03how we could how we could ideate and
- 2:06redesign the standard sanitary pad um
- 2:09that hadn't been fundamentally improved
- 2:12for almost you know decades or centuries
- 2:15um at that point
- 2:17because we felt as though for younger
- 2:19teenagers for younger menstruators who
- 2:21had just begun their periods and had
- 2:23just become menstruating there was very
- 2:25little education and very little
- 2:27accessibility to products that were
- 2:28comfortable and sustainable and
- 2:31inclusive for everyone um and so from
- 2:34that point onwards we've just been
- 2:35working to kind of target that mission
- 2:37of expanding the education aspect but
- 2:40also
- 2:41increasing the
- 2:43accessibility to quality products and
- 2:45trying to redesign those as well
- 2:48wonderful
- 2:49um i would also like to know because uh
- 2:51you are working on menstruation as a
- 2:54topic of periods as a topic so do you
- 2:56believe that periods is still a taboo in
- 2:59the year 2022 or you know is it not so
- 3:03what's happening around that
- 3:04we would definitely say that it is um
- 3:07we've experienced a lot within our own
- 3:09communities our own schools um and our
- 3:12cultures outside of school um and we
- 3:15know that it's a really prevalent issue
- 3:17right now because
- 3:18we've seen it play out so we do a lot of
- 3:21work on social media and when we started
- 3:22posting on social media we would get a
- 3:24lot of comments
- 3:26saying um you shouldn't really be
- 3:28talking this openly about this issue
- 3:30um or like it's really disgusting and
- 3:33it's only for women why are you trying
- 3:36to target anybody who doesn't identify
- 3:37as female um so we've definitely seen it
- 3:41happen
- 3:42right in the in the present and that's
- 3:44something we're trying to combat um
- 3:46through a lot of our social work um and
- 3:49our product as well
- 3:52i think uh you know in fact i was also i
- 3:55also wanted to ask you about these
- 3:57things because you know when i was going
- 3:59through your instagram page i observed
- 4:01that you people also do the chapter
- 4:03programs right you people started the
- 4:05chapter programs and even in different
- 4:07cities so i was wondering like how do
- 4:09you manage this a lot and you know how
- 4:11do you just leave those programs and
- 4:14what is happening there because uh it is
- 4:16also important there are some negative
- 4:18points as well so how do you keep in
- 4:20check with all these people who are into
- 4:22this program
- 4:25yeah um so the chapter program is the
- 4:27thing that i focus on um i'm lucky that
- 4:30nikki and akshika have taken the reins
- 4:32on the other side of our company um but
- 4:34for the chapter program as nikki said
- 4:36from social media we saw that
- 4:38living in the united states we have our
- 4:40own set of experiences and problems with
- 4:42menstrual shame but despite the language
- 4:45barriers and the time zone differences
- 4:47these problems are you know similar
- 4:49across the globe and there's something
- 4:51that are experienced by menstruators in
- 4:53every single city and town and village
- 4:56and you know country um in so many
- 4:59different places um
- 5:01and so we kind of started off with this
- 5:03chapter program with the intention of
- 5:05supporting young people like ourselves
- 5:08who are in you know middle school high
- 5:10school or college who are very
- 5:12interested in initiating these important
- 5:14conversations and dialogue surrounding
- 5:16menstruation but don't have the means to
- 5:18do so and just need a little bit of
- 5:20extra support
- 5:21and what we do is you know we try to
- 5:23heavily market it through social media
- 5:25and we meet with these chapter leaders
- 5:27individually in several locations right
- 5:29now we're in uh 25 with 25 chapters in
- 5:32eight countries um so we meet with them
- 5:35and we just try to see
- 5:36how they can make a positive impact in
- 5:39their community whether that means you
- 5:40know providing menstrual products in
- 5:43their school bathrooms um or working
- 5:45with you know
- 5:47local local organizations to provide
- 5:49these products for homelessness shelters
- 5:52and things like that
- 5:53each of them are trying to you know
- 5:55approach the issue in their own way but
- 5:57they're all doing really important work
- 6:00and
- 6:00actually meets with almost all of them
- 6:02every single week
- 6:04so she takes a lot of time in doing that
- 6:06and we're really proud of the work that
- 6:08they're doing um and it's it's a big
- 6:10time responsibility but we are super
- 6:12excited to see all the progress that the
- 6:13chapters are making
- 6:16fine i am pleasure to hear that i hope
- 6:18that we can also start something in
- 6:21india as well because uh
- 6:23we need something like that in india at
- 6:25least it is 2022
- 6:27yeah that'd be amazing yeah yeah
- 6:31um you know
- 6:32in fact when uh because you people talk
- 6:35about a lot of period in general in
- 6:37myths and uh facts what are the myths
- 6:40and what are facts so i was just
- 6:41wondering that you know
- 6:43there are some myths around the world of
- 6:46globe so have you come across any weird
- 6:48myths about periods you know across the
- 6:51world or something
- 6:56that's a good question um
- 6:58i think probably the biggest one
- 7:01is this is like a little bit more like a
- 7:03serious one rather than like um a funny
- 7:05myth but
- 7:06um we had always been told that
- 7:08menstruation was just for women um and
- 7:11that's something that we believed for so
- 7:13long and when we started posting on
- 7:15social media we saw that um a lot of the
- 7:17comments were talking about how
- 7:20they are they don't identify as female
- 7:22but they still have menstruation so a
- 7:24lot of these um
- 7:26menstrual product companies who only
- 7:28target women in their packaging um in
- 7:30their marketing it can cause a lot of
- 7:32gender dysphoria for people who don't
- 7:34identify as females so that's something
- 7:36that we um hadn't really encountered
- 7:38until we
- 7:39until we went on social media and it's
- 7:41something that we're really passionate
- 7:43about working towards because
- 7:45it affects a lot of people
- 7:47across the world
- 7:49do you guys have any others that's the
- 7:50only one i could think of
- 7:53well there are a lot of things that have
- 7:55a lot of
- 7:56cultural uh background to them so
- 7:59they're like with specific problem
- 8:01products for example um in india a lot
- 8:04we hear the myth that using like a
- 8:06tampon or something that's an invasive
- 8:09product is what we call it um you know
- 8:11it is
- 8:12has a certain taboo on its own beyond
- 8:14the taboo that already exists around
- 8:16menstruation um because you know people
- 8:19consider it to be you know taking away
- 8:21your virginity and things like that
- 8:23there are a lot of these like cultural
- 8:25um preferences that have been ingrained
- 8:27so um we're also trying to work on that
- 8:30and just normalize all products and all
- 8:33conversations surrounding menstruation
- 8:37uh akshika do you have anything
- 8:41um i don't have anything in particular
- 8:44but i think i do remember reading
- 8:46somewhere
- 8:47that
- 8:48uh
- 8:48in
- 8:50bolivia if i'm not wrong you can't
- 8:52really hold babies um when you're on
- 8:55your period because they believe that
- 8:56will make the baby sick so in a way like
- 8:59periods are kind of like a transmittable
- 9:00disease
- 9:02um
- 9:03i just i don't i mean i don't think it's
- 9:04like too funny but i just think it's
- 9:06like really weird that there's so much
- 9:08taboo and stigma and impurity associated
- 9:10with just a simple biological process
- 9:13i think in india it has so like
- 9:16when someone who is menstruating like
- 9:18they are not allowed to go to temples or
- 9:21kitchen
- 9:23although
- 9:24we personally did not believe it but
- 9:26like
- 9:27so you know when i talked to my mother
- 9:29my mother
- 9:30told that it is not like that it's just
- 9:32because that because uh in you know when
- 9:35they were you know menstruating so
- 9:37during because housewives have to do a
- 9:39lot of things and at that time men were
- 9:42kind of we were living in
- 9:44men's world something like that so they
- 9:46did not do anything so that is those
- 9:49three days were given to that woman so
- 9:51that they can just completely rest and
- 9:53cannot do anything
- 9:55i'm like okay so basically it was for
- 9:58women's course but like there are some
- 10:00people who have just
- 10:01kind of molded in a wrong way
- 10:05yeah i think that happens a lot with
- 10:07just any social issue in general they'll
- 10:10take one thing and twist it into
- 10:12something else to fit their agenda yeah
- 10:14actually i haven't heard that that
- 10:16reasoning before and that's really
- 10:17insightful because um we've had those
- 10:20experiences with not being allowed in
- 10:22temples um when we visit india um we
- 10:26always thought it was something
- 10:26surrounding
- 10:27the fact that periods are seen as being
- 10:29impure and i think that it has molded
- 10:32into a lot of people do see it like that
- 10:35um but it may have different roots which
- 10:37is cool to learn about
- 10:40um i also want to know because uh like
- 10:43now we are into pandemics so has this
- 10:46pandemic affected your working style or
- 10:49your organization in general
- 10:52um i would say that um as i as explained
- 10:56earlier we met through a pitch
- 10:58competition program thing um and towards
- 11:02the end of the program the pandemic
- 11:04started so we started having meetings
- 11:06online
- 11:07um
- 11:08i think that online has actually
- 11:11increased our efficiency
- 11:13because we uh we live in different towns
- 11:16and nikki live in the same one but i
- 11:17live about 20 25 minutes away so meeting
- 11:21almost every single day as we do
- 11:24while like in person would be very
- 11:26impossible um and it would be kind of
- 11:29not utilizing our time efficiently so i
- 11:31think being able to
- 11:34um
- 11:35meet online almost every day
- 11:37has given us the courage to go out and
- 11:39just message random people online for
- 11:41help and set up meetings with people
- 11:43from literally all over the country and
- 11:45all over the world
- 11:46i think the pandemic has actually
- 11:49increased our
- 11:50um work ethic
- 11:52yeah and we liked it
- 11:55sorry i was just sorry just like a lot
- 11:57of zoom calls
- 11:58yeah i was just gonna say too like uh we
- 12:00all we often joke that we spend upwards
- 12:03of like two three hours together every
- 12:05week but we've really only met in person
- 12:08like all three of us a handful of times
- 12:10in the last two years
- 12:13i'm amazing like something i said
- 12:15something positive about pandemic
- 12:18otherwise we just hear that oh pandemic
- 12:21has just affected us negatively
- 12:24um so you have done so many projects and
- 12:26campaigns um
- 12:29probably on instagram or apart from
- 12:31social media in general so
- 12:33do you have any favorite campaigns or i
- 12:36think if you can answer individually
- 12:38like which campaigns have been your
- 12:40favorite
- 12:44yeah i can start off um so like i said i
- 12:48spent the majority of my time working
- 12:50with the chapters um and that's just
- 12:52been a lot of outreach through tick tock
- 12:55or instagram talking to younger uh
- 12:58followers who might be interested but
- 13:00that's been the most rewarding part of
- 13:02this this entire uh you know startup for
- 13:05me um all the time we've spent on this
- 13:07has has really has really shown itself
- 13:09when i see you know 11 12 year olds
- 13:12getting on these calls and being so
- 13:14excited about the possibility of making
- 13:16a positive impact in their local
- 13:17communities um i think that you know
- 13:20that's the most important thing that
- 13:22we've been able to do
- 13:23obviously we've had some success in in
- 13:25other places as well um but that's been
- 13:28the area for me personally where i've
- 13:30been able to see a direct positive
- 13:32impact
- 13:33and really and really see some of these
- 13:35younger menstruators that with our
- 13:37support have been able to blossom and
- 13:39feel really comfortable talking about
- 13:40issues that you know are generally not
- 13:42super comfortable to talk about
- 13:45i would say that's one of the biggest
- 13:47ones for me as well um i know when we
- 13:49first had this idea we were um it was
- 13:52like during february break or something
- 13:53we were so excited to get started on it
- 13:56and we had like calls for hours every
- 13:58day trying to write the handbooks and
- 14:00make training videos for chapters um for
- 14:03leaders who want to start their own
- 14:04chapter
- 14:05um and then we started doing outreach
- 14:07and finding new methods of marketing so
- 14:08it's taught us a lot as well about how
- 14:10to kind of push a campaign and start a
- 14:12new project and we were it's been
- 14:14something that we're so excited about so
- 14:15that momentum has really showed um and
- 14:18then another thing i know i've touched
- 14:20on this a few times already but um the
- 14:23campaign for transgender rights and um
- 14:26transgender inclusivity in marketing
- 14:29has been really inspiring for me because
- 14:31i know when we when we post on tick tock
- 14:33and we just like a simple video saying
- 14:36um
- 14:36transgender
- 14:38humans who menstruate are included in um
- 14:41the overall
- 14:42category of people who menstruate and we
- 14:44get so many comments saying um thank you
- 14:47and thank you for addressing this issue
- 14:48and they haven't seen people address it
- 14:50before
- 14:51so that's been kind of really
- 14:52heartwarming and really enlightening to
- 14:54see how many people um we can reach with
- 14:57just a small statement
- 15:05uh akshika if you can also answer like
- 15:07what is your favorite campaign
- 15:12uh i don't really have much to add on um
- 15:15besides what nikki said
- 15:18but i
- 15:20handle most of our product related part
- 15:22of the business and i am not fully as
- 15:26immersed in our marketing although i am
- 15:28involved and i made some early tick
- 15:30tocks along with nikki and kahu
- 15:33um
- 15:34but basically uh in terms of our product
- 15:37we kind of redesigned the traditional
- 15:39sanitary pad to have
- 15:43a new innovative
- 15:45mechanism for disposal
- 15:47because when we were doing initial
- 15:49customer research and surveys and such
- 15:51we found out that a lot of people felt
- 15:53that it was really they felt really un
- 15:55hygienic um
- 15:57and
- 15:58unsafe handling metro fluid when it was
- 16:00time to throw away their pads
- 16:03so we came up with a new design we filed
- 16:06for a a us provisional utility patent
- 16:10for it
- 16:11and we're currently in the process of
- 16:14working on a formal non-provisional
- 16:17utility patent for it
- 16:20i do a lot of the prototyping at home
- 16:22um
- 16:23i've been researching materials to make
- 16:25it environmentally friendly and
- 16:27biodegradable
- 16:28um so that's really the biggest part of
- 16:32what i do for our company
- 16:36it's wonderful that how you have this uh
- 16:39delegated all the tasks according to
- 16:41their skills and
- 16:43you know it's wonderful to hear that i
- 16:45also want to know that uh although i
- 16:48would really touch a serious topic so
- 16:50you know
- 16:52scotland as a country they have just
- 16:53started you know to
- 16:55uh
- 16:56uh basically to periods as in earlier
- 16:59periods used to be an essential product
- 17:01there but now they have started you know
- 17:04to make period products as a free
- 17:06product so do you think that all
- 17:08governments should do that or do you
- 17:10feel that it can only happen in scotland
- 17:15yeah i think that's a really important
- 17:17issue that isn't often discussed uh
- 17:19obviously we're a poor a for-profit uh
- 17:22venture so we we are trying to redesign
- 17:24products that you know are a little bit
- 17:27are a little bit more advanced in terms
- 17:29of the sustainability aspect and also
- 17:31the design of them themselves but a big
- 17:33part of our actual program is getting
- 17:36these free products and i would
- 17:38definitely say that the accessibility
- 17:40aspect needs to be improved um across
- 17:43the board in the united states
- 17:45specifically uh poverty is is obviously
- 17:48a huge issue in some of our urban areas
- 17:51but specifically period poverty is
- 17:53something that's very rarely addressed
- 17:55um because you know some so many
- 17:58families don't have the means to buy
- 18:00some of the products that they need um
- 18:03in certain states in the united states
- 18:05like
- 18:06mississippi is one that comes to mind um
- 18:08they're like almost a fifth of uh people
- 18:11under the poverty line just don't have
- 18:13any access whatsoever to period products
- 18:15because the support that they do receive
- 18:17from the government doesn't go towards
- 18:19getting a pad or a tampon for
- 18:21you know the menstruators that might be
- 18:23in that family so for people like that
- 18:26who don't have any accessibility at this
- 18:28point um having free products in public
- 18:30restrooms or other facilities would be
- 18:33extremely beneficial for them and would
- 18:35definitely reduce the
- 18:36uh the stress and anxiety that surrounds
- 18:39getting a period every single month
- 18:41so i think like what you said certain
- 18:43countries that are taking those steps to
- 18:45make improvements like that are really
- 18:47doing a great job and need to be kind of
- 18:49the leaders for the rest of us
- 18:56um all right so i think i do not have
- 18:58any more questions but like i just want
- 19:01to know how can people know more about
- 19:03you or reach out to you or you know if
- 19:05they because you know listening to you i
- 19:07also wanted to somehow contribute to
- 19:09this course because this is such an
- 19:11incredible cause so like how can people
- 19:14join to your organization or is there
- 19:16any opening or something
- 19:18yeah there's multiple ways to do that
- 19:20sorry nikki
- 19:22um but people can reach out throughout
- 19:24to us through our instagram account
- 19:26which is at let's period talk
- 19:28um and we also have a website that
- 19:30kahoot created for us um
- 19:33let'sperrytalk.com and over there you
- 19:35can find more ways to contribute to our
- 19:37organization such as
- 19:39creating a chapter or just donating to
- 19:41us
- 19:42and
- 19:43anyone can reach out to us at any point
- 19:45in time and we'll be more than happy
- 19:47to
- 19:49get to know about your experiences and
- 19:50figure out how we can work together to
- 19:52make a difference yeah
- 19:54and if you're looking to just sort of
- 19:55send like a direct message um you can
- 19:58also contact us through our email which
- 20:00is um
- 20:02periodpouchinfo gmail.com and that
- 20:05should be listed on our website as well
- 20:07um so just all of our contacts should be
- 20:08on there um if you want to just send us
- 20:11any sort of message or start your own
- 20:13chapter which would be a much bigger
- 20:14step would you really encourage you to
- 20:17uh wonderful so do you have any last
- 20:20messages to all the people you know who
- 20:23wants to be or who wants to learn more
- 20:25about periods in general
- 20:27or
- 20:28like what is your thoughts on it
- 20:32i think speaking from personal
- 20:34experience it will be very awkward to
- 20:37work with it think about it
- 20:40research it
- 20:41um initially like it was definitely
- 20:43awkward for me
- 20:44my parents my family isn't overly
- 20:46traditional but it was just like
- 20:48something that
- 20:50i didn't
- 20:51like honestly talk about much with my
- 20:53parents
- 20:54um but now it's like a con like a dinner
- 20:56table conversation where i explain
- 20:59stuff about it like we all edu we're all
- 21:02we're all getting educated together um
- 21:04and i think if you're brave enough to
- 21:05take that first step no matter how like
- 21:07scary or awkward it is i think you can
- 21:10like start impacting how comfortable
- 21:12people around you are with certain
- 21:14topics not necessarily
- 21:16just menstruation but other
- 21:19topics are considered taboo
- 21:22yeah and i like a chica said i
- 21:23definitely want to commend those people
- 21:26um who are taking the first steps to get
- 21:28involved because it can be difficult to
- 21:31start on a leadership to start taking
- 21:33leadership and taking action regardless
- 21:36of the topic on top of that when it's
- 21:38about an issue that generally isn't
- 21:40comfortable
- 21:41that's a whole different level and it's
- 21:42so it's so important to recognize that
- 21:45it takes a lot to do that um and we're
- 21:47here to support anyone who is interested
- 21:49in taking those first steps
- 21:55uh nikki d uh because he also want to
- 21:57hear you so what is your last thoughts
- 22:00sure yeah um i would say that my last
- 22:03thoughts are just um try to take action
- 22:06when you can i'm just sort of
- 22:08reiterating what they both said which
- 22:09it's scary to first initially
- 22:12go ahead and
- 22:14make a step in something in an issue
- 22:16that's so
- 22:17traditionally stigmatized um
- 22:19but
- 22:20it's important to start taking action if
- 22:22it's something that you are really
- 22:23passionate about and we also are here to
- 22:26support anybody so
- 22:28if you'd be interested in starting a
- 22:29chapter we guide you through the whole
- 22:31process in connecting with your
- 22:33community and starting that open
- 22:35discussion um
- 22:37and even beyond just our company taking
- 22:40action in your community um even if it's
- 22:42really small scale can make a really big
- 22:44impact
- 22:45i mean uh to be very honest we would
- 22:47love that because our team chapter is
- 22:49about that because we want to like so
- 22:52for our what we came up with and how
- 22:54come co-founders came up with an idea
- 22:56that they wanted to do something to uh
- 23:00not only inspire but also to show that
- 23:02they are teams like you and other teams
- 23:05in all over around the world and who are
- 23:07doing for something like they are not
- 23:09just sitting so a long time a lot of
- 23:11people say that you know today's youth
- 23:13is not doing something or
- 23:15they are not into good signs but like
- 23:18this is where we can show to people that
- 23:20hey you know what today's youth are more
- 23:21empathetic and more accepting and they
- 23:24want to bring the change
- 23:26so that is the idea of uh teen chapter
- 23:29and we would love to collaborate in any
- 23:31way possible because your idea is very i
- 23:35mean it's something that it's really
- 23:37effects and it is very effective
- 23:39so we would love to collaborate more and
- 23:41more with you people
- 23:44yeah likewise and we we've uh you know
- 23:46looked at some of teen chapters work as
- 23:48well i think it's obviously we've been
- 23:50very privileged to give to be given the
- 23:52opportunity to start something like this
- 23:53but i think it's so great that you have
- 23:55been highlighting all of the you know
- 23:57young people who are starting taking
- 23:59starting to take important steps for a
- 24:01variety of different issues so um i
- 24:04think it would be so cool to work with
- 24:05you as well in the future
- 24:06yeah we'd love to kind of get in the
- 24:08call and talk about that and we're also
- 24:09so honored that you um had us on here so
- 24:12thank you so much
- 24:14thank you thank you so much for you know
- 24:16being with us we were also honored to
- 24:18have you people
- 24:19um
- 24:20but i think uh we have a very short time
- 24:23because so we would kind of be wrapping
- 24:26up this meeting but like it was so much
- 24:29good to hear you all and yeah it's just
- 24:32inspiring like right now i'm sitting
- 24:34here and i'm like oh my god these people
- 24:36are doing so much thing like i also want
- 24:38to do something for these girls
- 24:40so thank you again for sitting with us
- 24:42and yeah wish you all the best for you
- 24:45know your cause and i wish that you
- 24:47people just
- 24:48be hired and just achieve all the things
- 24:51that you want
- 24:52thank you so much that means a lot of
- 24:54questions
- 24:55thank you it was great talking to you
- 24:56thank you
- 24:57thank you so much
- 25:01um so yeah i think
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