Inside the Mind of Jeffrey Dahmer: Serial Killer’s Chilling Jailhouse Interview — Transcript

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1. 0:00I desensitize myself to it I I don't
2. 0:09know I went to great lengths he is pure
3. 0:11evil but you'd never know it by looking
4. 0:13at him but when you hear him that's
5. 0:15another story his killing field was
6. 0:18Milwaukee and he got away with murder
7. 0:19for more than a decade but how could any
8. 0:22of this happen for the first time ever
9. 0:23Nancy glass is here inside the world of
10. 0:26Jeffrey Dahmer bill when I sat down
11. 0:28opposite Jeffrey Dahmer for this
12. 0:30interview I wondered what he would tell
13. 0:32me how hard it would be to get him to
14. 0:34discuss his horrific crimes what I found
15. 0:37was that he was very forthcoming he
16. 0:40volunteered details that may be
17. 0:41difficult to hear I began by asking what
18. 0:44he wanted from the men he picked up I
19. 0:46had these obsessive desires and and
20. 0:51thoughts wanting to control them to I
21. 0:57don't know how to put it possess them
22. 1:01permanently and that's why you killed
23. 1:03them right right not because I was angry
24. 1:06with them not because I hated them but
25. 1:08because I wanted to keep them with me
26. 1:11and as my obsession grew I was saving
27. 1:20body parts such as skulls and skeletons
28. 1:24Jeffrey Dahmer is recalling his
29. 1:27monstrous past almost two years ago in
30. 1:30this little apartment in Milwaukee
31. 1:32police discovered the grisly remnants of
32. 1:35one of the most horrible crime sprees in
33. 1:37American history Jeffrey Dahmer an
34. 1:40unassuming chocolate factory worker
35. 1:42would eventually confess that he had
36. 1:44seduced murdered and dismembered 17
37. 1:47young men he even ate some of his
38. 1:50victims body parts Pete instantly became
39. 1:54the center of worldwide media attention
40. 1:56a serial killer unmasked
41. 2:00there were protests and press
42. 2:02conferences in Milwaukee as people try
43. 2:04to understand how this could have
44. 2:06happened in their midst
45. 2:08how did Jeffrey Dahmer get away with
46. 2:10murder after murder for 13 years how did
47. 2:14a boy born into a hard-working
48. 2:16middle-class family turn into the worst
49. 2:19kind of monster imaginable in this
50. 2:22exclusive interview we put those
51. 2:24questions to Jeffrey Dahmer himself we
52. 2:27met with him at the maximum-security
53. 2:28prison where he is serving his sentence
54. 2:30of 999 years for the first time he talks
55. 2:35about his crimes and gives us a chilling
56. 2:38look inside the mind of a serial killer
57. 2:41it's a process that doesn't happen
58. 2:44overnight when you d personalize another
59. 2:49person and view them as just an object
60. 2:53an object for pleasure instead of a
61. 2:55living breathing human being it it seems
62. 3:03to make it easier to do things you
63. 3:08shouldn't do the reason why Jeffrey
64. 3:10Dahmer was able to get away with his
65. 3:12crimes was because of just what you are
66. 3:14seeing here Jeffrey Dahmer is
67. 3:17intelligent and articulate that is what
68. 3:19makes him so frightening but if you
69. 3:21listen carefully to his words throughout
70. 3:24this interview you realize it is a thin
71. 3:27disguise you do sound though like the
72. 3:30kind of person who could have said to
73. 3:31himself this is wrong
74. 3:33i'ma stop I always knew though that it
75. 3:38was wrong but after the the first the
76. 3:45first killing was not planned I was
77. 3:50coming back from the shopping mall back
78. 3:52in 78 I had had fantasies about picking
79. 3:57up a hitchhiker and taking him back to
80. 4:01the house and having complete control
81. 4:04and dominance over him
82. 4:07the hitchhikers name was Steven Hicks he
83. 4:10was just 18 Jeffrey
84. 4:12took him to his parents house there he
85. 4:15strangled him with a barbell he
86. 4:17dismembered the body and hid it in a
87. 4:19drainpipe
88. 4:20it was Jeffrey Dahmer who gave those
89. 4:22details to the police in his confession
90. 4:25no one no one had a clue as to what was
91. 4:28happening for for over a decade during
92. 4:31that time Jeffrey Dahmer joined the Army
93. 4:34and was sent to Germany he was
94. 4:35eventually discharged for a drinking
95. 4:37problem and returned to Ohio nine years
96. 4:41after Stephen Hicks murder the killing
97. 4:43began again what happened to you in the
98. 4:46nine years in between that you were able
99. 4:48to stop that you were able to control
100. 4:51yourself
101. 4:52just wasn't an opportunity to fully
102. 4:56express what I wanted to do to do there
103. 4:59was just not that the physical
104. 5:00opportunity to do it then and I started
105. 5:04when I moved to Milwaukee in 81 I
106. 5:10started reading pornography going to the
107. 5:13bookstores eventually that led to
108. 5:21frequenting the gay bars and then I one
109. 5:26time I brought this young man back to
110. 5:29the hotel room the Ambassador Hotel was
111. 5:33just planning on drugging him and
112. 5:35spending the night with him I had no
113. 5:38intention of hurting him
114. 5:39when I woke up in the morning he had a
115. 5:42broken rib here I was heavily bruised
116. 5:45apparently I had beaten him to death
117. 5:48with my fists and you have no memory no
118. 5:51memory of it but that's what started the
119. 5:53whole spree all over again
120. 5:55Dahmer says he snuck the corpse of his
121. 5:58victim Stephen to me out of his hotel
122. 6:00room in a suitcase then he took it to
123. 6:02his grandmother's house where he cut up
124. 6:05the body and put it in plastic garbage
125. 6:07bags when do you kill these men
126. 6:10afterwards or you repulsed we upset know
127. 6:14it at the time it was it was almost
128. 6:19addictive it was almost
129. 6:23a surge of energy I wouldn't have to
130. 6:29worry about any of their needs or
131. 6:34anything I just had complete control of
132. 6:35the situation but Jeffrey Dahmer was out
133. 6:38of control the urge to kill had
134. 6:40overpowered him as police later learned
135. 6:42he wasn't satisfied with his victims
136. 6:44death he wanted more
137. 6:46why did you photograph them it was my
138. 6:50way of remembering their appearance
139. 6:54their physical beauty I also wanted to
140. 7:00keep something if I couldn't keep them
141. 7:04there with me whole I at least I felt
142. 7:07that I could keep their skeletons and I
143. 7:12even went so far as planning on setting
144. 7:16up an altar with the ten different
145. 7:20skulls and skeletons and what was the
146. 7:22purpose of the altar going to be uh as a
147. 7:26sort of Memorial point where I could I
148. 7:34don't know it's it's it's so bizarre and
149. 7:38strange it's hard to describe a place
150. 7:40where I could collect my thoughts and
151. 7:44feed my obsession when the bodies were
152. 7:47still in your apartment there was no
153. 7:51time when you would see them and say
154. 7:54this is grotesque what have I done
155. 7:58there were times there were times but
156. 8:01the compulsive obsession with doing what
157. 8:06I was doing overpowered any feelings of
158. 8:09revulsion this man with a quiet almost
159. 8:11shy demeanor became a master manipulator
160. 8:14who was able to lure strangers he met at
161. 8:17gay bars to his apartment he was even
162. 8:19able to con the police into returning a
163. 8:2114 year old boy to him after neighbors
164. 8:24called 911 that the child was in the
165. 8:27street naked and bleeding
166. 8:29Dahmer convinced the police that he and
167. 8:31the boy were simply having a lover's
168. 8:33quarrel
169. 8:35executed boyfriend of another boyfriend
170. 8:41wasn't a childhood open after the police
171. 8:44left Jeffrey Dahmer murdered that boy
172. 8:46Connor axe into some phone this man says
173. 8:50he had a near fatal encounter with
174. 8:52Jeffrey Dahmer he wanted to take some
175. 8:54picture of my back he hit me with a
176. 8:56Robert hammer on my neck he was lucky to
177. 9:00escape because by then the killing had
178. 9:02become almost routine before you went
179. 9:05out to pick up a man was there any kind
180. 9:08of ritual you went through I go to the
181. 9:11nightclubs drink watch the strip TV
182. 9:16shows and if I didn't meet anyone at the
183. 9:20bars I'd go to the bath clubs and meets
184. 9:25meet someone there offer them money and
185. 9:28we'd go back to the apartment
186. 9:32have a few drinks I'd have the sleeping
187. 9:38pill mixture already prepared person
188. 9:41would drink it to fall asleep and that's
189. 9:46when they would be strangled watching
190. 9:49the movie Exorcist 3 was also part of
191. 9:52his ritual it put him in the mood for
192. 9:54murder
193. 9:55I felt so hopelessly evil and perverted
194. 9:59that that I actually derives a sort of
195. 10:07pleasure from watching that tape did you
196. 10:10like feeling evil no no I didn't but I
197. 10:15tried to overcome the thoughts and it
198. 10:19worked for a while but eventually I gave
199. 10:22in while Jeffrey Dahmer may say things
200. 10:25today that make it seem like he
201. 10:27understands what went on in his mind he
202. 10:30does not all he can do is tell you what
203. 10:33happened but he cannot stop whatever it
204. 10:35is that drove him to kill in the first
205. 10:38place do you still feel those same urges
206. 10:42do you still feel that compulsion that
207. 10:44obsession I wish I could say that
208. 10:47it just left completely but no there are
209. 10:51times when I still do still do have the
210. 10:55old compulsions Jeffrey Dahmer says as
211. 10:57time went on his mind became more and
212. 11:00more warped and yet he was clever enough
213. 11:02to continue to elude police and lure
214. 11:04young men to his apartment we should
215. 11:07warn you the details are very graphic I
216. 11:10started having these obsessive thoughts
217. 11:12when I was about 15 and 16 and they got
218. 11:17worse and worse
219. 11:18what will your fantasies about they were
220. 11:22sexual fantasies of control power
221. 11:25complete dominance they became reality
222. 11:29was it pleasure in that fantasy there
223. 11:32was excitement fear pleasure all mixed
224. 11:36together Jeffrey Dahmer fulfilled his
225. 11:39fantasies by murdering and dismembering
226. 11:4117 young men in time his desires became
227. 11:45more extreme his deeds more grotesque
228. 11:48listen to him talk about the most
229. 11:50unnatural things in the most
230. 11:52matter-of-fact of ways that's when you
231. 11:55realize that none of it has touched him
232. 11:57I was branching out that's when the
233. 12:00cannibalism started eating of the heart
234. 12:03and the arm muscle it was a way of
235. 12:08making me feel that they were a part of
236. 12:13me at first it was just curiosity and
237. 12:17then it became compulsive then I tried
238. 12:20to keep the person alive by inducing a
239. 12:26zombie-like state by injecting first
240. 12:36dilute acid solution into their brain or
241. 12:40hot water and it never did to completely
242. 12:45work could someone like you be stopped
243. 12:47could you be helped no I was I was dead
244. 12:53set on going with this compulsion it was
245. 12:56the only thing that gave me any
246. 13:00any satisfaction he became so warped by
247. 13:04his evil impulses that he even took a
248. 13:07victim's head with him to work at the
249. 13:09ambrosia Chocolate Factory
250. 13:10I kept the mummified head and skull of
251. 13:17one of the victims in a carrying case in
252. 13:21my locker at work were you almost
253. 13:23flaunting it yes but that's how strong
254. 13:26the compulsion was that so bizarre the
255. 13:29the desire was I wanted to keep
256. 13:31something of the person with me Jeffrey
257. 13:35Dahmer exhibited some disturbing
258. 13:37behavior early on he began drinking
259. 13:39heavily as a teenager
260. 13:41dropped out of college was arrested for
261. 13:43indecent exposure disorderly conduct and
262. 13:46fondling a thirteen-year-old boy
263. 13:48tragically one of his murder victims
264. 13:51would be that boy's brother do you know
265. 13:53what started it is there any kind of
266. 13:55incident that you can remember to this
267. 13:57day I don't know what started it and the
268. 14:00person to blame is sitting right across
269. 14:02from you that's the only person not
270. 14:05parents not society not pornography I
271. 14:08mean those are just excuses his
272. 14:11MacArthur teen year crime spree finally
273. 14:14ended when this man Tracy Edwards
274. 14:16brought the police to the infamous
275. 14:18apartment like the others he had gone
276. 14:20there with the promise of money he was
277. 14:22listening to my heart because at a point
278. 14:24he told me he was gonna eat my heart at
279. 14:26that point I hit him and I ran what was
280. 14:29the turning point for you that made you
281. 14:31suddenly realize that you had done
282. 14:33something terribly wrong something you
283. 14:35should be sorry for it was the night of
284. 14:38the arrest they have no memory of what
285. 14:41happened during the six hours before the
286. 14:47last victim ran out of the apartment
287. 14:48they heard a knock on the door and the
288. 14:51police were there with with the last
289. 14:55victim they asked me where the key was
290. 15:00to the handcuffs I was my mind was in a
291. 15:05haze I sort of pointed to the bedroom
292. 15:07and that's where they found the pictures
293. 15:10they yelled cuff em I was a handcuffed
294. 15:14and it was just the realization that
295. 15:19there was no point in trying to hide
296. 15:22hide my actions anymore
297. 15:25the best route was to help help the
298. 15:29police identify all the victims and just
299. 15:33make a complete confession when it was
300. 15:35revealed that most of the victims were
301. 15:37black or homosexual people in Milwaukee
302. 15:40were incensed many felt that was why he
303. 15:43went after them and why the police
304. 15:45didn't seem to care when their families
305. 15:47reported them missing Tim of year 17
306. 15:50victims were black were they racially
307. 15:53motivated what was not a sexual
308. 15:57preference it was just to find an
309. 16:00obsession with the best looking young
310. 16:04man I could find well you just heard him
311. 16:06say that his sexual preference had
312. 16:08nothing to do with the killings he has
313. 16:10not come to terms with his homosexuality
314. 16:12never understood it
315. 16:14there was no use trying to fight it
316. 16:16because I couldn't rid myself of it it
317. 16:18was it was too powerful and persistent
318. 16:21do you dislike it
319. 16:22yes it's caused a lot of problems for me
320. 16:27a lot of conflicts and unanswered
321. 16:30questions the conflicts remain with him
322. 16:33and so do his compulsions but in prison
323. 16:36he finally cannot act on his savage
324. 16:38desires if you were out on the street
325. 16:41now would you still be committing the
326. 16:43crimes probably if this hadn't happened
327. 16:46there's no doubt I probably would be I
328. 16:48can't think of anything that would have
329. 16:50stopped me
330. 16:53you
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332. 17:04you