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Inside Paper Mills: Detection, Evidence, and What Editors Should Look For | ACSE Webinar Series 2026 — Transcript

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  1. 0:04I would like also to take a moment to
  2. 0:08mention that AS ACE
  3. 0:12will be holding the 12th annual
  4. 0:15conference in Dubai. So we warmly invite
  5. 0:19you as a to be a scholarly publishing
  6. 0:23community to join us for this important
  7. 0:27gathering of editors, publishers and
  8. 0:31professionals dedicated to advancing
  9. 0:35integrity in academic publishing. So we
  10. 0:39are delighted to have all of you with us
  11. 0:43today and we hope this session will
  12. 0:47provide valuable insights and practical
  13. 0:50guidance. So without further delay, it
  14. 0:54is now my pleasure also to introduce our
  15. 0:58facilitator for today's webinar. So it
  16. 1:02is now uh my pleasure to introduce him
  17. 1:06is Dr. uh Adam Daily, the CEO and
  18. 1:11founder of Clear Skies, the company
  19. 1:16behind the paper mill alarm, one of the
  20. 1:20publishing industry, a leading h service
  21. 1:25dedicated to detecting paper mill
  22. 1:28activity.
  23. 1:30So launched in 2021,
  24. 1:34paper mills Adam was deferred service
  25. 1:38spec specifically designed to identify
  26. 1:43organized paper mill operations and is
  27. 1:47now integrated with STM integrity hub
  28. 1:52and under Adam's leadership clear uh
  29. 1:56skies received the 2024 for ALPS
  30. 2:02award for introduction in publishing and
  31. 2:06its work uh has been featured in nature
  32. 2:11sciences and the wall street journal. So
  33. 2:16Adam brings more than 15 years
  34. 2:20experience of in editorial practice and
  35. 2:23data science having previously worked
  36. 2:26with Sage Publishing. It is a well-known
  37. 2:29also publisher uh on large scale uh
  38. 2:33misconduct detection, peer-reviewed
  39. 2:36innovation and high impact editorial in
  40. 2:40um initiatives. So we are very pleased
  41. 2:43to have him here with us today and share
  42. 2:47his insight and how editors can better
  43. 2:51recognize the respond and respond to
  44. 2:54paper mail activity. Uh, Mr. Adam, the
  45. 2:58the floor is yours.
  46. 3:04>> Well, thank you very much for the
  47. 3:05introduction. Um, much appreciated and
  48. 3:08uh, thank you so much for having me here
  49. 3:10to speak. Um, let me just share my
  50. 3:13screen.
  51. 3:15>> And also, can you uh, the voice a little
  52. 3:18bit? It's very low.
  53. 3:19>> Oh, am I am I too quiet?
  54. 3:22>> Yeah.
  55. 3:24Um, I do something about that. How about
  56. 3:27now? Is that better?
  57. 3:29>> Yeah, it's it's okay. Thank you.
  58. 3:32>> Okay.
  59. 3:37Now, can we see this? Okay, here we go.
  60. 3:41[snorts] H. So, I thought one of the
  61. 3:45first things to
  62. 3:48talk about would have been the the
  63. 3:50actual definition of what we mean when
  64. 3:52we say paper mill because there are
  65. 3:56large organizations that will put out um
  66. 4:01problematic content at scale. We'll
  67. 4:03often call that a paper mill. But
  68. 4:06actually there's a lot of different
  69. 4:08things that we see that are problematic
  70. 4:10and often get called paper mills. So for
  71. 4:12example
  72. 4:14um an individual or a research group
  73. 4:16might put out uh problematic content in
  74. 4:19a similar sort of way and we could call
  75. 4:22that a paper mill but it's quite a
  76. 4:23different thing.
  77. 4:25Then there's a lot of the same practices
  78. 4:27that we see with paper mills that
  79. 4:30actually we'll see in other places as
  80. 4:32well and those could come from
  81. 4:33individual authors.
  82. 4:36So it's important that we sort of break
  83. 4:37down different things that we might look
  84. 4:39for and uh
  85. 4:43consider them perhaps individually not
  86. 4:46necessarily assigning all of them to
  87. 4:48paper mills.
  88. 4:50So
  89. 4:54the
  90. 4:56other thing that I think is really
  91. 4:57important to think about here, so we're
  92. 4:58mostly working in um the space of doing
  93. 5:02analytics that will uh identify
  94. 5:04anomalies. So we're saying there's lots
  95. 5:07of good papers, they're green, and then
  96. 5:08there's problematic ones which are red
  97. 5:10and they're very rare by comparison.
  98. 5:13So the way that um
  99. 5:17oversight works is that we'll often
  100. 5:19think in terms of
  101. 5:22screening and detection. And this is
  102. 5:26very different to investigation, which
  103. 5:30is actually what we're often um
  104. 5:33uh doing when when we're doing research
  105. 5:35integrity. We're doing a lot of
  106. 5:36investigation where we're going into a
  107. 5:37lot of depth, spending a lot of time on
  108. 5:39articles. And really the purpose of
  109. 5:43um the services that we provide and uh I
  110. 5:47think a lot of what editors do in this
  111. 5:50space the purpose is to try and avoid
  112. 5:52investigation as much as possible is to
  113. 5:54avoid having to spend that huge amount
  114. 5:55of time on something where a decision
  115. 5:58can be made much earlier much further
  116. 6:00upstream.
  117. 6:02So we have two sides to this. One side
  118. 6:04is we look at the publications. So we
  119. 6:07actually have every publication, every
  120. 6:09article that has been published in the
  121. 6:11last decade has been analyzed and um
  122. 6:14loaded into oversight.
  123. 6:16This means that we've got a clear
  124. 6:18picture of the whole um
  125. 6:22uh the whole thing the whole research
  126. 6:24research ecosystem.
  127. 6:27And in
  128. 6:31this case, we can see long-term trends
  129. 6:34over time in in what's happened there.
  130. 6:37With um
  131. 6:41this publications view, we can then go
  132. 6:43into different levels and see different
  133. 6:45things. Uh for example, we have every
  134. 6:47institution in there, every um funer
  135. 6:51that appears as an institution in the
  136. 6:53data. We have every publisher. This is a
  137. 6:56publishing house. And we can look at the
  138. 6:57data in different ways and explore how
  139. 7:00trends have changed over time. Then we
  140. 7:03can go to the journal level and um at
  141. 7:05the journal level we can say okay this
  142. 7:08is uh a journal that's very clearly been
  143. 7:11targeted
  144. 7:13and it's got a huge spike in the data
  145. 7:15which tells us okay this is one that we
  146. 7:17want to prioritize. Actually this one uh
  147. 7:20publisher did um deal with this problem
  148. 7:23very decisively and was able to bring
  149. 7:25that um alert rate down.
  150. 7:29Then if we go on to the articles
  151. 7:33themselves then we can go into a huge
  152. 7:35amount of detail. Now usually the kinds
  153. 7:38of analysis that we're doing here we're
  154. 7:40not going to be looking at the um a
  155. 7:44published article. So seeing the
  156. 7:45publications can give us a good overview
  157. 7:48of which artic which journals are most
  158. 7:50at risk which journals do we need to
  159. 7:54>> sorry is there a question
  160. 7:59>> excuse me can you mute yourself please
  161. 8:02can you mute yourself
  162. 8:07>> yes go ahead
  163. 8:08>> because it's some people that
  164. 8:11>> so so on the publication site we can see
  165. 8:13any article we can see any um uh any
  166. 8:18journal we can understand this uh the
  167. 8:20problem at a a high level. So it gives
  168. 8:22us oversight as uh that's why we called
  169. 8:25it that um gives us oversight of the
  170. 8:27whole problem. But when we want to get
  171. 8:29into uh screening and we want to
  172. 8:32identify what are the certain things
  173. 8:34that we should be looking for then we're
  174. 8:36going to get down to the article level.
  175. 8:37This is usually going to happen with
  176. 8:39submissions rather than with
  177. 8:41publications. We're going to be seeing
  178. 8:42this at the moment. A article is
  179. 8:44submitted to a journal. That's where
  180. 8:45we're going to pick this up. So, here um
  181. 8:50we have a report and this shows the
  182. 8:52findings part of our report. So, it's
  183. 8:55saying that um
  184. 8:58uh we have several different things that
  185. 9:01we're picking up here. We have um let's
  186. 9:05see
  187. 9:08templates. So particular templates get
  188. 9:11used by um paper mills and what it's
  189. 9:15saying is that there's a number of these
  190. 9:17in the reference list. So it's picked
  191. 9:19them up there. Um and then it's saying
  192. 9:23um
  193. 9:26that we have an external data source.
  194. 9:29This is the problematic paper screener
  195. 9:30where we're also finding three
  196. 9:33references uh which have been picked up
  197. 9:35by that source. This is quite important
  198. 9:37because one thing that we're very keen
  199. 9:39on is that we have different methods
  200. 9:41that will agree on an article and where
  201. 9:45there's agreement then we um we we know
  202. 9:47that there's let's say one method has
  203. 9:50some imperfections we can be quite sure
  204. 9:52that because we have two methods working
  205. 9:56in different ways finding the same
  206. 9:57article that we can expect to have a
  207. 9:59very low false positive rate on this
  208. 10:01kind of a a prediction.
  209. 10:03We also have some problems, some some
  210. 10:05concerns about the self- citation rate.
  211. 10:07Self- citation is quite an interesting
  212. 10:09thing and we'll we'll come back to that.
  213. 10:11But this gives us a bit of a an overview
  214. 10:14of what those issue might be. We can
  215. 10:16then click on these um uh these links
  216. 10:19here for for some more information about
  217. 10:22exactly what we're we're finding there.
  218. 10:26Then we have this uh network view. Um so
  219. 10:30this is a little bit low res. We
  220. 10:31probably got to um probably give you a
  221. 10:35better image would have been nice. But
  222. 10:36what this is telling us is it's also
  223. 10:38giving us a a highle overview of the
  224. 10:41article. So in this case we have an
  225. 10:42article with a set of references that we
  226. 10:45are concerned about. Um one concerning
  227. 10:49reference might not be too big of a
  228. 10:52problem. In this case we have nine. So
  229. 10:54we're very concerned. Um on top of that
  230. 10:56these dotted lines tell us that there
  231. 10:58are shared authorships amongst these
  232. 10:59articles. This uses orchid data to work
  233. 11:02out that these have uh these articles
  234. 11:04have shared authorships.
  235. 11:06So that tells us that what we have here
  236. 11:08is a group of authors who have um a
  237. 11:12history of
  238. 11:14um creating problematic articles and of
  239. 11:18citing those articles as well. So this
  240. 11:20gives us a very quick overview of an
  241. 11:23article. Now at this point I think an
  242. 11:26experienced user would look at this and
  243. 11:28say okay this this is enough information
  244. 11:30to make a decision. Um if this comes
  245. 11:32into desk review
  246. 11:34some editors would I think be quite
  247. 11:37comfortable to simply reject the paper
  248. 11:38at this point. But we want to have a lot
  249. 11:42of transparent detail here which means
  250. 11:43that we can go into more depth and say
  251. 11:46exactly why is this article being
  252. 11:48flagged.
  253. 11:50So
  254. 11:54we can say a bit about that template
  255. 11:56recognition bit. Um
  256. 11:59I want to be very clear that almost
  257. 12:01every article in the world is written
  258. 12:04with some sort of a template. Templating
  259. 12:06is fine. Um
  260. 12:11it's also very important um particularly
  261. 12:13in cases where for example um English
  262. 12:16isn't someone's first language then I
  263. 12:18think templating is really critically
  264. 12:20valuable to be able to put things into a
  265. 12:22rigorous form
  266. 12:25where we're picking this up. We're
  267. 12:28looking at templates that have um two
  268. 12:32main features. One is that there's a
  269. 12:34template that is um has a very high rate
  270. 12:37of production. A rate of production that
  271. 12:39is not consistent with real science.
  272. 12:42Real science is slow.
  273. 12:45And then we have a template that has a
  274. 12:46high rate of retractions or other clear
  275. 12:50verifiable flags. Those are the
  276. 12:52templates that we're flagging. And it
  277. 12:54happens that um
  278. 12:58flagging the template itself has turned
  279. 13:00out to be um uh very effective and very
  280. 13:04powerful at identifying paper mills.
  281. 13:07It's slightly different to saying that
  282. 13:09we're necessarily flagging the um the
  283. 13:12retractions or the the other things
  284. 13:14we're finding is really the template
  285. 13:15that we're looking for, but it's a very
  286. 13:17particular kind of template that meets
  287. 13:19certain criteria.
  288. 13:21Um and this led to us having the uh best
  289. 13:24estimate for the scale of paper milling
  290. 13:26globally. Actually this is a couple
  291. 13:28years old now and we uh can probably put
  292. 13:30out a better estimate at this point. But
  293. 13:32this [snorts]
  294. 13:34has proven to be a very scalable way to
  295. 13:36to find paper mills. But again we want
  296. 13:38to go into more depth. Uh template on
  297. 13:41its own might not be enough to say this
  298. 13:42is definitely or definitely not a paper
  299. 13:44mill.
  300. 13:46So one other thing that I did, this is a
  301. 13:49very very um long time ago uh 2019 I
  302. 13:54think I built this tool which was
  303. 13:56intended for tracking rejected articles.
  304. 13:59And the idea there was that we would
  305. 14:03um
  306. 14:05put in a we search for a title and we
  307. 14:08search for the published a published
  308. 14:09article. Um
  309. 14:14and
  310. 14:17so so we search for this title of
  311. 14:19published uh article sorry search for a
  312. 14:22title of a um submission
  313. 14:25but then if we find that it's been
  314. 14:27published then we can say okay we can
  315. 14:29track this rejected article and see
  316. 14:30where it got published after it was
  317. 14:32rejected. So that's a useful piece of
  318. 14:33analytics for a publisher.
  319. 14:36um that piece of analysis turned out to
  320. 14:38be a really good way to find the DOI for
  321. 14:41a reference. So we have incomplete uh we
  322. 14:44have some reference data. We have maybe
  323. 14:45just the title and we have the uh names
  324. 14:47of the authors. We can use the same tool
  325. 14:49to match that up and work out um
  326. 14:54uh which reference exactly is this in a
  327. 14:58reference list.
  328. 14:59So that became a really um
  329. 15:03well-developed tool but really quite
  330. 15:05advanced for the purpose of tracking
  331. 15:07rejected articles. But then we started
  332. 15:08using it for um finding references and
  333. 15:11it turned out it worked really well for
  334. 15:12that. What happened in recent years is
  335. 15:16we started to see more of these cases
  336. 15:18where the
  337. 15:21DOI
  338. 15:22um that was there
  339. 15:25couldn't be
  340. 15:27converted into uh so so one thing was
  341. 15:30that we wouldn't be able to find the DOI
  342. 15:31because the reference didn't exist. The
  343. 15:33other case was where the DOI didn't
  344. 15:36resolve. So you click on that DOI and it
  345. 15:38won't take you to the article because it
  346. 15:40doesn't exist.
  347. 15:42So we ended up with this tool that we
  348. 15:44had built to track rejected articles and
  349. 15:46it turned out that accidentally it was
  350. 15:48detecting these um hallucinated
  351. 15:50references which come up quite a lot. So
  352. 15:52they're very easy to find in oversight.
  353. 15:55We just go and look at this list and we
  354. 15:56can see these articles that sorry these
  355. 15:58deals that do not resolve.
  356. 16:01Um
  357. 16:03there's another really nice feature that
  358. 16:04this has which is that it helps us to
  359. 16:06find duplicate submissions and again
  360. 16:08that's another feature of uh paper mills
  361. 16:10but that's something we'll do usually um
  362. 16:12after uh an article has been decisioned.
  363. 16:18So
  364. 16:20what other features would we look for?
  365. 16:21Well if we're talking about fabrication
  366. 16:23we're talking about papers that have
  367. 16:24been put together um with the intention
  368. 16:27of making them look like a real paper.
  369. 16:30There's a couple of things that go in
  370. 16:31there. One is that we see paper mills
  371. 16:34selling uh citations.
  372. 16:38So, we know that they have a job to do
  373. 16:40there, which is that they have to get
  374. 16:42these citations somehow into the papers
  375. 16:44that they are creating and publishing.
  376. 16:46Secondly, we know they're using
  377. 16:47templates. So, it's got to be someone's
  378. 16:49job to put references into that
  379. 16:50template. that might be not be done with
  380. 16:52as much care as getting a reference into
  381. 16:56um
  382. 16:58uh um
  383. 17:01a real paper. So so a real author with a
  384. 17:04real reference they they they've chosen
  385. 17:06that quite carefully.
  386. 17:09So what we have is this tool which we um
  387. 17:13ran over uh
  388. 17:16a huge data set which we trained and it
  389. 17:22will recognize when a reference does not
  390. 17:26belong when it's statistically
  391. 17:28um
  392. 17:30unlikely for it to appear in a reference
  393. 17:32list. This is not necessarily by the way
  394. 17:34a sign of misconduct. Sometimes a
  395. 17:36reference can be um uh very unusual for
  396. 17:40all sorts of reasons. But what we see
  397. 17:42with paper mills, and actually this
  398. 17:43isn't the best example because there's
  399. 17:44only one example here, but what we see
  400. 17:46with paper mills is sometimes huge
  401. 17:48numbers of these irrelevant references
  402. 17:51in a reference list. And that again is
  403. 17:53very easy to spot with this tool. Um,
  404. 17:56and it's what it's saying when it picks
  405. 17:58something up is that over
  406. 18:00um a training data set of uh at least 10
  407. 18:05million examples, this is unusual. This
  408. 18:08is a really strange thing to happen.
  409. 18:11So then we have um author histories. So
  410. 18:15where we have um any submission we have
  411. 18:19these different lists. We have a list of
  412. 18:20author uh articles in an author's
  413. 18:22history which is built with Orchid and
  414. 18:24we have a list of um references which is
  415. 18:27the articles in the reference list. So
  416. 18:28we've already seen quite a lot comes
  417. 18:30from that reference list. But the author
  418. 18:32history is also really important and
  419. 18:34actually it's the first place I would
  420. 18:35start with any kind of um an
  421. 18:37investigation or or even just a
  422. 18:38screening check.
  423. 18:41So one thing that is quite strange and
  424. 18:44it seems to be something that comes up a
  425. 18:45lot more when we look at um articles
  426. 18:47that are produced with generative AI
  427. 18:50is that we will see these lists of
  428. 18:53articles in an author's history issue
  429. 18:54that are are very low relevance. So
  430. 18:58in this case we won't flag them
  431. 19:00explicitly. Um but we can see from these
  432. 19:03numbers when the number goes uh negative
  433. 19:06that's when we have very low relevance
  434. 19:09and
  435. 19:12this is something we see increasingly
  436. 19:15it's high rates of production from
  437. 19:17particular authors and also these uh
  438. 19:20high numbers of these low relevance
  439. 19:22articles in the history and like it does
  440. 19:24make some sense where if someone is
  441. 19:28producing work with genai and it's not
  442. 19:30really something that they have studied
  443. 19:32or spent a lot of time on. You can see a
  444. 19:34lot more topic drift there where they
  445. 19:36can um produce an article on anything
  446. 19:39because they are um
  447. 19:42uh
  448. 19:45they could produce an article on
  449. 19:46anything because they they're not
  450. 19:47actually doing a a piece of research
  451. 19:50there. They're they're simply asking
  452. 19:52chat GPT to produce the work for them.
  453. 19:55Um,
  454. 19:58one thing we've spoken a bit about,
  455. 19:59we've spoken a lot about um, machine
  456. 20:02learning, talked about training data and
  457. 20:04having large data sets that we use to
  458. 20:05work out when something is unusual and
  459. 20:07when it isn't. Um, and again that goes
  460. 20:09back to what we said at the start about
  461. 20:11anomaly detection. It's about we're
  462. 20:13finding things that are um, not normal
  463. 20:16in in the data.
  464. 20:18So,
  465. 20:21one other thing that we do is network
  466. 20:23analysis and that's quite different. So
  467. 20:25rather than training on a big load of
  468. 20:27data, what we're doing is we're taking
  469. 20:28um a lot of data and we're saying how
  470. 20:30does it all connect to each other and
  471. 20:33this kind of data is perfect for that
  472. 20:35because of course we have um citations
  473. 20:37there's connections between people. We
  474. 20:39have co-authorships those are
  475. 20:40connections between people. Um [snorts]
  476. 20:44what we've done with that is we've said
  477. 20:45well let's look at all these connections
  478. 20:47to all these people um and all these uh
  479. 20:51um identifiers that we have to identify
  480. 20:53individuals like like orchids and then
  481. 20:55we say which of these orchids are most
  482. 20:58connected to where we can find these
  483. 21:01kinds of problems.
  484. 21:04In doing that we find again anomalies.
  485. 21:07you find occasional individuals who are
  486. 21:09highly connected to these kinds of
  487. 21:11problems. Again, we wouldn't even go as
  488. 21:14far as to say that because somebody has
  489. 21:16a high degree of connection to
  490. 21:18problematic articles that necessarily
  491. 21:20that person is problematic. There could
  492. 21:22be other reasons for that. Um, but in
  493. 21:25terms of
  494. 21:27where it's very useful to um to flag
  495. 21:30that to an editor, what we're saying
  496. 21:32with the keystone analysis is we're
  497. 21:35saying this particular article, it's
  498. 21:38really well worth looking through the
  499. 21:39author history. And um if for nothing
  500. 21:42else than just to uh confirm that
  501. 21:44there's there is nothing wrong with this
  502. 21:46individual. We're not saying that
  503. 21:47somebody has done something wrong. Been
  504. 21:48very clear about that.
  505. 21:50So
  506. 21:52um
  507. 21:54network analysis is something that goes
  508. 21:56goes through what we do um
  509. 22:01to a great extent. Um the
  510. 22:05self- citation analysis that's network
  511. 22:08analysis
  512. 22:10um and I think it's really quite
  513. 22:12fundamental that ultimately what we're
  514. 22:14looking at here is connections between
  515. 22:15things and particularly between
  516. 22:16individuals.
  517. 22:22Um yes so I I think I mentioned self-
  518. 22:25citation
  519. 22:27already but there are a couple of things
  520. 22:29that we have here. So again it's anomaly
  521. 22:31detection. So what we do is we take the
  522. 22:33last year of citation behavior um using
  523. 22:37data from open Alex and then we say what
  524. 22:41self-citation behavior is unusual
  525. 22:44and there are some quite interesting
  526. 22:45things there one being that uh sometimes
  527. 22:47somebody will just put a ton of
  528. 22:48citations themselves in their own paper
  529. 22:51that's actually quite rare though um we
  530. 22:53do see it but um
  531. 22:57a lot of the time that's not something
  532. 22:58that we see and with paper mills we
  533. 23:00don't really see that at
  534. 23:02What we do see though are very high
  535. 23:05rates of uh citation to individuals
  536. 23:06across a large number of articles. What
  537. 23:10we also see is um
  538. 23:13some things that are a bit more subtle
  539. 23:15um like total citation benefit. So let's
  540. 23:18imagine that there are 10 authors on an
  541. 23:20article and they site one other article.
  542. 23:24That same article has all 10 authors on
  543. 23:26it. The citation benefit from that one
  544. 23:29citation is 10 because there are uh that
  545. 23:3410 increments for those individuals.
  546. 23:38They all get something.
  547. 23:41When you add that up across some
  548. 23:44articles, it becomes very interesting
  549. 23:46because you start to see that where you
  550. 23:47have large author lists that total
  551. 23:50benefit from one article can be really
  552. 23:52high. Um and
  553. 23:56that's one thing that we will measure
  554. 23:58[snorts] and we will say well when is
  555. 23:59that um anomalous? When is that
  556. 24:03statistically anomalous? When is that in
  557. 24:04say the the 99th percentile a one in a
  558. 24:07100 paper? When is it in the 99.9th
  559. 24:10percentile? A one in a thousand paper.
  560. 24:12And that's what we really want to see
  561. 24:14where something is unusual.
  562. 24:16Another feature which we're really
  563. 24:17careful about is where we see very low
  564. 24:21rates of cell citation. So often with
  565. 24:25paper mills if you can imagine
  566. 24:28somebody's buying a paper well the
  567. 24:30reference list might already exist when
  568. 24:31they buy it. So self- citation is quite
  569. 24:34normal to some extent to some small
  570. 24:36extent.
  571. 24:38So zero cell citations is strange. It's
  572. 24:41even stranger when there's a large
  573. 24:42author list and it's even stranger when
  574. 24:44that author list has a lot of history
  575. 24:47that could be cited by that reference
  576. 24:49list.
  577. 24:51We are very careful about this though
  578. 24:53because one of the things that we've
  579. 24:55seen is that um paper and mail behavior
  580. 24:58often is found in particular
  581. 25:00geographies.
  582. 25:02Those
  583. 25:03areas of the world tend to be places
  584. 25:05where we have rapidly growing scientific
  585. 25:07communities, which means we have a lot
  586. 25:09of firsttime authors, early career
  587. 25:11researchers. And where we see zero self-
  588. 25:14citations, obviously anyone writing
  589. 25:16their first ever paper cannot self-site
  590. 25:19because they have no papers to
  591. 25:21self-site. So, we're very careful to
  592. 25:23control for that. And so we're only
  593. 25:25going to flag self uh missing self-
  594. 25:27citation when it is statistically
  595. 25:31um unlikely that um
  596. 25:35uh
  597. 25:37authors with a particular history would
  598. 25:39not self-sight. So the history has got
  599. 25:42to be there. But we do find that we find
  600. 25:45these cases where we have um authors who
  601. 25:48have long histories
  602. 25:50um and a large number of them all
  603. 25:53appearing on a paper where they do not
  604. 25:54site that history and and that is very
  605. 25:56strange. That's a very strange thing to
  606. 25:58see. Um and it can be a symptom of uh
  607. 26:02paper milling. Um and so it's something
  608. 26:04that we will point out when we see it.
  609. 26:08So
  610. 26:11taking a bit of a step back um we
  611. 26:15spoke a bit about networks um
  612. 26:18there's a blog post about this which um
  613. 26:23uh you can take a look at
  614. 26:27but one of the things that
  615. 26:29if we if we take a step back and we look
  616. 26:32at the whole industry
  617. 26:34we take those networks and we say Okay,
  618. 26:38we could treat a citation a bit like a a
  619. 26:42vote. It's like a vote saying that this
  620. 26:44paper is really good.
  621. 26:48Um, and that's kind of the way that we
  622. 26:49interpret citation in um in in the
  623. 26:54research literature usually.
  624. 26:57But what we can do is we can say, well,
  625. 26:58let's imagine that like let's imagine
  626. 27:00I'm a I'm a fake paper and I know I'm a
  627. 27:03fake paper and someone cites me.
  628. 27:08Well, then I say, well, there's
  629. 27:09something wrong with that because I know
  630. 27:11I'm a fake paper and I know that you
  631. 27:12shouldn't have cited me because I'm I'm
  632. 27:14not real. Um, so then you can make a
  633. 27:18vote and say, I'm voting that there's
  634. 27:20something wrong with this paper.
  635. 27:23And
  636. 27:24what happens is that if you take that um
  637. 27:27and make an algorithm out of it, you
  638. 27:28say, "Let's make all of the papers vote
  639. 27:30that way." So we have all these
  640. 27:31problematic papers. We make them all
  641. 27:32vote for the um articles that site them.
  642. 27:37The
  643. 27:40interesting thing about that is that
  644. 27:43it's extremely resistant to noise. So if
  645. 27:46somebody accidentally cites a
  646. 27:48problematic paper, that that doesn't
  647. 27:50matter. That's okay. that's not going to
  648. 27:53give them a lot of votes.
  649. 27:55But where there's a pattern of citing
  650. 27:57these problematic articles, that adds up
  651. 28:00and it all adds up to right now. And it
  652. 28:02says you have all these votes in the
  653. 28:04past and they all vote towards all the
  654. 28:06things that are citing that literature
  655. 28:08now. And that could be um articles that
  656. 28:12are from paper mills that are part of an
  657. 28:14organized pattern of citation. It could
  658. 28:16also be articles that are simply citing
  659. 28:19the wrong stuff. um that that could
  660. 28:22cause the same thing where we add that
  661. 28:24up at the journal level. It's incredibly
  662. 28:26powerful because what it does is it
  663. 28:28shows us where we have nent risk. Um and
  664. 28:32that's something that is a a feature of
  665. 28:34um
  666. 28:36uh oversight that it will show where
  667. 28:38that nent risk is in a journal. And in
  668. 28:41some cases, we've been able to catch
  669. 28:43journals very early on shortly after
  670. 28:47they've been targeted by a paper mill.
  671. 28:51We also use GI detection. One of the
  672. 28:56things that when this started was um
  673. 29:01when people started writing articles
  674. 29:02with GI,
  675. 29:05one of the things that we
  676. 29:12were often asked was, you know, when you
  677. 29:14see a Geni article, you obviously that's
  678. 29:17just that's just flatout fraud and that
  679. 29:19has to get rejected. But the reality is
  680. 29:22that it's much more nuanced than that.
  681. 29:24Geni is a really useful tool for writing
  682. 29:27and this particular piece of analysis
  683. 29:30it's based on quite a small data set. So
  684. 29:32I would say that you know there's
  685. 29:34potentially more work to do to get this
  686. 29:36um uh as accurate as possible. What it's
  687. 29:39showing though is that the false
  688. 29:41positive rate is extremely low on this
  689. 29:44method of finding um uh generative AI.
  690. 29:49the
  691. 29:51um
  692. 29:53this is saying we're looking at papers
  693. 29:54from 2010 and it's saying it hardly
  694. 29:56detected anything. So this is this is
  695. 29:58tiny false positive rate. Then we look
  696. 30:01at 2025 and this is just a random sample
  697. 30:03of 2025.
  698. 30:05These are abstracts and 35% of them were
  699. 30:09picked up. So we know the false positive
  700. 30:11rate is low.
  701. 30:1335% were picked up in 2025.
  702. 30:16So the rate at which Gen AI is used is
  703. 30:19huge. Um I think it's reasonable based
  704. 30:22on that to say at least a third of the
  705. 30:23literature is in some way using
  706. 30:26uh Gen AI. And I think for something
  707. 30:29like making an abstract completely fine.
  708. 30:31Um that seems like a perfectly sensible
  709. 30:34use for Gen AI.
  710. 30:38where we're interested is where is the
  711. 30:40use of genai
  712. 30:42excessive or where does it seem that it
  713. 30:44might um undermine the paper and
  714. 30:47actually knowing simply that something
  715. 30:49is geni or isn't I don't think is enough
  716. 30:52I think it's valuable context it will
  717. 30:54tell us maybe this is something that we
  718. 30:56should look at look at with more care um
  719. 30:59if you recall I said that when we said
  720. 31:00when we see geni articles we often see
  721. 31:03that irrelevant author history and again
  722. 31:07that that is strange in context. Um
  723. 31:11that author history is is very strange
  724. 31:13and very interesting when we can see
  725. 31:15that something is uh using genai.
  726. 31:20So genai um for a long time I think
  727. 31:24people thought that we were never going
  728. 31:25to have a good detection method for it
  729. 31:27but we do very good detection method for
  730. 31:30it. Um the reality is though that geni
  731. 31:34on its own is not problematic. It has to
  732. 31:37be in context.
  733. 31:41So
  734. 31:43another thing here again I talked about
  735. 31:45having orthogonality having uh different
  736. 31:48methods that find problems with the same
  737. 31:51thing. Having sleuths I think is
  738. 31:55incredibly valuable. We have um a
  739. 31:57community of individuals who are highly
  740. 31:59talented, highly motivated and do a lot
  741. 32:01of work um in their own time on finding
  742. 32:06um problematic research.
  743. 32:10And often the sleuths will uh donate
  744. 32:12data to us that we can use to flag
  745. 32:15articles and we will always give them um
  746. 32:18appropriate attribution depending on
  747. 32:19what they have asked for. Um,
  748. 32:23and occasionally we'll do receive lists
  749. 32:26that are we aren't asked for
  750. 32:28attribution. Uh, we're asked to keep it
  751. 32:32um private, but we we will also respect
  752. 32:34that.
  753. 32:36But again, this gives us another string
  754. 32:38to our bow. It's another um uh way of
  755. 32:42looking at the data and another thing
  756. 32:43that can corroborate what we're finding
  757. 32:45with automated methods.
  758. 32:49Um,
  759. 32:52we'll also flag where we see retractions
  760. 32:55in a reference list. Actually, one thing
  761. 32:57we'll do at the moment is also flag
  762. 32:58corenda. Um, we're going to separate
  763. 33:01that out because I think it could be a
  764. 33:02bit more clear.
  765. 33:04But one really important thing with
  766. 33:06corenda is that with paper mills the
  767. 33:08rate of uh coragenda is much higher than
  768. 33:10the rate of retraction.
  769. 33:12So they can provide some really useful
  770. 33:14um insight in that we could see let's
  771. 33:16say an article that is uh problematic
  772. 33:21for particular reasons and then we find
  773. 33:25corenda on it a corendum on it and we
  774. 33:28can go and look at that corendum and it
  775. 33:30might say something like um there was a
  776. 33:32problem with one of the images so we've
  777. 33:33changed the image and that on its own it
  778. 33:36seems perfectly reasonable of course a
  779. 33:37publisher would change the image if the
  780. 33:39author said there was a problem with it
  781. 33:41but then when we get to um
  782. 33:45uh
  783. 33:49looking at say pub here, we might find
  784. 33:52that there was a comment on that image
  785. 33:54and that that possibly was the cause of
  786. 33:57um the author asking to change it. So
  787. 34:00that the story can sort of come together
  788. 34:02around that corendum. So it can be quite
  789. 34:04a useful thing to have.
  790. 34:07Um
  791. 34:10let me just have sorry targeted journal
  792. 34:12again sorry duplicated slide. Um so yeah
  793. 34:15that's essentially how oversight works
  794. 34:18and how submission screening works.
  795. 34:20There's a lot there for
  796. 34:22editors to be mindful of in that there
  797. 34:25are these patterns. The patterns do
  798. 34:27change over time.
  799. 34:30Um,
  800. 34:32and partly the value is in being able to
  801. 34:38monitor the submissions, look at these
  802. 34:40changing patterns and know what to look
  803. 34:42for in these reports. but also being
  804. 34:44able to take a big step back and look at
  805. 34:46the higher level patterns and say um
  806. 34:51what are the
  807. 34:54uh what are the trends which journals
  808. 34:57perhaps are being targeted which um
  809. 35:00subject areas which authors appear to be
  810. 35:02doing the targeting and
  811. 35:06being able to make those kind of
  812. 35:07strategic judgments is a really big part
  813. 35:10I think of um what what to look for It's
  814. 35:13not just what to look for, it's also
  815. 35:15knowing where to look.
  816. 35:18So, um, any questions?
  817. 35:25>> Thank you so much, Mr. Adam, for this
  818. 35:28insightful and uh, highly relevant and
  819. 35:32uh, and informative presentation.
  820. 35:36So before opening the floor for
  821. 35:39questions from the participants, I would
  822. 35:42like also to begin with few discussion
  823. 35:44points from my side. So uh
  824. 35:49what are some of the most reliable
  825. 35:52indicators that that the manuscript may
  826. 35:56be linked to paper mill? How we can know
  827. 36:00that? What are the indicators for that?
  828. 36:05So I I would say anything that
  829. 36:10um represents
  830. 36:13that sort of industrial production and
  831. 36:18things which show fabrication, things
  832. 36:20which show um the reference list has
  833. 36:23been put together in a particular way.
  834. 36:25Um, I think those are particularly
  835. 36:26important because if we're saying we've
  836. 36:29got a bunch of articles that we think
  837. 36:30are um mil that come from paper mills
  838. 36:36and then we're saying, okay, this
  839. 36:37article looks like it's been fabricated
  840. 36:39and that could mean that the author
  841. 36:40fabricated it, but it also has a huge
  842. 36:42number of citations to those uh articles
  843. 36:46that we flagged in the past. Well, that
  844. 36:48shows a long-term pattern that shows
  845. 36:50organization
  846. 36:51and that suggests that uh this is from
  847. 36:55an organized paper mill and not just an
  848. 36:57individual who is putting things
  849. 36:59together.
  850. 37:00>> Mhm. Okay. The other question for you,
  851. 37:03if I am an editor uh in a journal, how I
  852. 37:07can differentiate between poor quality
  853. 37:10submission and organized paper mill
  854. 37:14content? how I can differentiate between
  855. 37:17them.
  856. 37:18>> So, I think a lot of what we're showing
  857. 37:20in the app does show uh where to draw
  858. 37:24that line. Um
  859. 37:26almost
  860. 37:28nothing that we're flagging would be on
  861. 37:31its own just a sign of lowquality um
  862. 37:34work. It's it's signs of things that are
  863. 37:37unusual and and we we have different
  864. 37:38levels of things. you have things which
  865. 37:40are
  866. 37:42very high certainty um low false
  867. 37:45positive rate um you can hang your hat
  868. 37:47on this you know um sort of things but
  869. 37:50we also have some things which are just
  870. 37:51there for context like for example the
  871. 37:53um relevance in the author history so um
  872. 37:57an author might switch fields that would
  873. 37:59be a reason why you would see irrelevant
  874. 38:00content in their history which is
  875. 38:02completely fine um
  876. 38:06but I think that's it what we're looking
  877. 38:07at here is we're we're saying most of
  878. 38:09what we're looking at here is things
  879. 38:11that are
  880. 38:13um a sign of
  881. 38:17uh
  882. 38:20things being very much not as they
  883. 38:22should be in any research paper
  884. 38:24irrespective of quality.
  885. 38:26>> Yes. Yeah. My last question from my side
  886. 38:29you what role because you mentioned the
  887. 38:32machine learning also as well
  888. 38:34>> so and the [clears throat] AI and the
  889. 38:36technology. So what role can technology
  890. 38:39and data analysis play in strengthening
  891. 38:42the detection effort across journals and
  892. 38:45publishers?
  893. 38:48Um,
  894. 38:51I I think it's really important, but
  895. 38:52it's also something that's a continually
  896. 38:54developing situation because the
  897. 38:59kinds of tools that we were
  898. 39:03um as an industry, the kinds of tools
  899. 39:05that were around even 5 years ago
  900. 39:08compared to now are enormously
  901. 39:10different. Um, the priorities of those
  902. 39:14tools are also enormously different. Um
  903. 39:17there's one thing that I think is quite
  904. 39:20is quite interesting about the sort of
  905. 39:22we talk about a cat and mouse game in
  906. 39:24terms of how
  907. 39:26um uh uh fraud detection works which is
  908. 39:30that
  909. 39:32often you'll uh say come up with um new
  910. 39:36ways of finding um misconduct but then
  911. 39:39also there will be new ways of making
  912. 39:40misconduct. And so you'll always have to
  913. 39:42be chasing
  914. 39:43>> uh to try and find those new ways and
  915. 39:44and find ways to
  916. 39:46>> adapt to them. And then the question is
  917. 39:48well does
  918. 39:49>> does does that mean that all those old
  919. 39:51methods that we used used to use even
  920. 39:53just a few years ago
  921. 39:55>> do we stop using those? Well no because
  922. 39:58there's still a new generation of people
  923. 39:59coming in who will try the old methods
  924. 40:02and and get caught by by those those
  925. 40:04older methods. So
  926. 40:05>> yeah,
  927. 40:07>> the the importance of different methods
  928. 40:09will change over time, but also the um
  929. 40:13uh
  930. 40:16ju sorry just going to the question
  931. 40:17about machine learning um I I think
  932. 40:20that's always going to be there. It's
  933. 40:21always going to be part of how this is
  934. 40:23done. And we can also look to other
  935. 40:25industries as well like for example
  936. 40:26finance cyber security they've been
  937. 40:28doing fraud detection a lot longer than
  938. 40:31this industry has. And you look at the
  939. 40:34solutions they have now very much
  940. 40:36focused on um
  941. 40:39uh the same kinds of principles machine
  942. 40:40learning network data and um
  943. 40:45uh building large
  944. 40:48data resources which is another part
  945. 40:50that we didn't really touch on here but
  946. 40:51we have to build huge and quite
  947. 40:55well-maintained databases to be able to
  948. 40:56do a lot of this stuff.
  949. 40:58>> Yeah, thank you so much for all your
  950. 41:01answers. Now let's open the floor also
  951. 41:04for our participants to ask the
  952. 41:06questions and we have in the chat box I
  953. 41:08think some questions that need to be
  954. 41:11answered. If you look at the uh
  955. 41:15question, I have question. How often do
  956. 41:19you recalibrate
  957. 41:21uh retrain the characteristics of
  958. 41:24problems and the quality of uh gene AI
  959. 41:28output are changing very rapidly. So
  960. 41:32what if some new fraud tech um technique
  961. 41:37comes also in and how long before you
  962. 41:40feel confident that you would defect
  963. 41:44detect?
  964. 41:45>> Few few questions there. So um oh also
  965. 41:48hello Marie I know Marie well. Um
  966. 41:53uh in terms of how often things could be
  967. 41:56reccalibrated, retrained as soon as new
  968. 41:58data comes in uh the setup we have is
  969. 42:01that we can retrain that uh immediately.
  970. 42:03Actually the last few months we have
  971. 42:05built a complete rebuild from the ground
  972. 42:09up of our entire training pipeline. Um,
  973. 42:13over that time we haven't put out so
  974. 42:15many updates of the older one, but over
  975. 42:18that period of time, six months, it's
  976. 42:19not really going to make a huge uh a
  977. 42:21huge difference to what we pick up. Um,
  978. 42:24but some of the newer updates, the way
  979. 42:27that those have been um
  980. 42:30built, the the the purpose is to be able
  981. 42:33to make um much smaller incremental
  982. 42:37updates. So where we have actually just
  983. 42:39a very small number of examples of uh a
  984. 42:42paper mill,
  985. 42:44we can train on that much better now
  986. 42:45with these new updates. Um so that's one
  987. 42:48thing that's quite important is being
  988. 42:50able to work with small amounts of data
  989. 42:52as well as very large amounts. Um
  990. 42:57uh and that sort of goes to the other
  991. 42:58question about you know if there's a new
  992. 43:00technique something new in the in the
  993. 43:02data um
  994. 43:04>> this is much more geared towards
  995. 43:06handling those changes.
  996. 43:09>> Yeah.
  997. 43:10>> Yeah. The second question can paper
  998. 43:12mills use gen AI to generate
  999. 43:17fake papers and how can editors also
  1000. 43:20detect them?
  1001. 43:21>> Yeah. So the integration that we have
  1002. 43:24with panggram I think is um a very good
  1003. 43:29way to get that information in that we
  1004. 43:31can say not just has geni been used but
  1005. 43:34where has it been used and to what
  1006. 43:36extent so that is very important to have
  1007. 43:40but as I was stressing in the uh
  1008. 43:43presentation we see that as context we
  1009. 43:46don't see that as misconduct
  1010. 43:48um where
  1011. 43:51the the line between misconduct and um
  1012. 43:55uh mistakes is is intent. So, it's
  1013. 43:58saying, did somebody mean to do
  1014. 44:00something that they shouldn't have done?
  1015. 44:02And we're never going to make a judgment
  1016. 44:04about that. We're never going to
  1017. 44:06automate a service that um
  1018. 44:10accuses people of intentional
  1019. 44:12wrongdoing.
  1020. 44:14So what we are going to provide is we're
  1021. 44:16going to say well here is an article
  1022. 44:18which has a very high rate of geni and
  1023. 44:20we think that's potentially problematic.
  1024. 44:22So it's worth checking but actually it's
  1025. 44:24the other stuff. It's the other context
  1026. 44:26that really tells us um if that is
  1027. 44:29problematic. What is it referencing? Um
  1028. 44:33are there issues with the references
  1029. 44:35like we saw here where say there's a a
  1030. 44:38fake reference in there? Well, you know,
  1031. 44:40if the paper is um a real paper written
  1032. 44:43with Genai, that's that's fine. But the
  1033. 44:46if the referencing is is um not reliable
  1034. 44:49because we can see that I I think that
  1035. 44:52suggests that um uh other references
  1036. 44:56there might not be reliable as well. And
  1037. 44:58if we're seeing referencing into known
  1038. 45:00mil content and retracted content,
  1039. 45:03again, that's much more solid. we can
  1040. 45:07say that that is not something we should
  1041. 45:09see in a real paper irrespective of
  1042. 45:12whether it was written with geni or not.
  1043. 45:14So
  1044. 45:16I I
  1045. 45:18I'm a big fan of the
  1046. 45:23as I say those network methods. It's
  1047. 45:25looking at how things connect because
  1048. 45:29genai um controls the content but it
  1049. 45:33doesn't control the connections. that
  1050. 45:35that's something that is very much um
  1051. 45:38>> a human part of this that we can we can
  1052. 45:41look at and and Jenny has no
  1053. 45:43>> no no bearing on it.
  1054. 45:46>> Yeah. Yeah. There's uh other two
  1055. 45:48questions. The first one also from
  1056. 45:50Finley Overland. Can oversight be used
  1057. 45:54as an implemented screening tool in a
  1058. 45:58journal publishers workflow bare paper
  1059. 46:01or it's more see uh so an external
  1060. 46:05consulting tool to tackle trends? What
  1061. 46:08do you think?
  1062. 46:09>> It's it's both. Um so we screen
  1063. 46:13um I think close to 100,000 articles a
  1064. 46:17month. Um these are new submissions and
  1065. 46:19they'll come in through uh peerreview
  1066. 46:22systems and they also come in through um
  1067. 46:26the publishers themselves. Some
  1068. 46:27publishers set up their own integration.
  1069. 46:28It's a very simple API to integrate
  1070. 46:30with.
  1071. 46:32Submissions come in at the moment that
  1072. 46:33they are submitted to the publisher. Um
  1073. 46:37we screen them to analysis produce the
  1074. 46:39exact reports that we just looked at in
  1075. 46:41the presentation. And that means that
  1076. 46:43the publisher has got a lot of um
  1077. 46:48scope in how they how they use that. So
  1078. 46:50some publishers um they won't use the
  1079. 46:53reports a lot, but they'll base their um
  1080. 46:56decisions on the alerts and they move
  1081. 46:58very fast because of that. That doesn't
  1082. 47:00mean that necessarily an alert means an
  1083. 47:01article is getting rejected. It might
  1084. 47:03mean it's going to go to the best
  1085. 47:04possible referees and get very good
  1086. 47:06quality um uh care but it also means
  1087. 47:10that the publisher has a lot of
  1088. 47:11confidence in their decision on that
  1089. 47:12article. Um primarily that is how the
  1090. 47:16service is used. It's I would say it
  1091. 47:19does vary but maybe uh at least 80% of
  1092. 47:24usage is looking at those submissions
  1093. 47:27and it's a smaller percentage of usage
  1094. 47:29that is looking at the historic
  1095. 47:30published content even though there's a
  1096. 47:32lot more of that.
  1097. 47:34>> Um
  1098. 47:35it makes more sense that the priority is
  1099. 47:37always to be working with the the the
  1100. 47:39submissions and um screening those
  1101. 47:42before they go into peer review. Um, and
  1102. 47:45again, it's really about having a fast
  1103. 47:48way to make a triage or a decision on
  1104. 47:50those submissions as soon as they come
  1105. 47:52in and avoiding a situation where we
  1106. 47:55have to do a huge investigation later.
  1107. 47:57It's really the the key point.
  1108. 48:00>> Yeah. And I can take the uh um the
  1109. 48:03second part of the question of betan
  1110. 48:06holdex. Uh is there any verification
  1111. 48:09[clears throat]
  1112. 48:10process prior to integration into your
  1113. 48:13system?
  1114. 48:15>> Um yes and no. in the
  1115. 48:20where we have
  1116. 48:22um
  1117. 48:24uh information coming in from a sleuth.
  1118. 48:26We will we will look at that and we will
  1119. 48:28decide whether we believe that is um
  1120. 48:32sound or not.
  1121. 48:35There are
  1122. 48:37certainly nuances certainly nuances
  1123. 48:39there. So I can think of one sleuth who
  1124. 48:41provides data publicly but not all of
  1125. 48:44that is meant to be um misconduct. They
  1126. 48:48they do lots of investigations of
  1127. 48:49different kinds of things. So we have to
  1128. 48:51be very careful about that. Um but also
  1129. 48:54we we'll uh
  1130. 48:58generally assume that when a data set is
  1131. 48:59given to us and we've spot checked it,
  1132. 49:01we've looked at it and we also got some
  1133. 49:03confirmation through things like um have
  1134. 49:05these articles been retracted? some of
  1135. 49:06them not all of them then we can have a
  1136. 49:09lot of confidence in the data. Um so no
  1137. 49:12we wouldn't ever blindly um just put a
  1138. 49:16list of articles in but where we are
  1139. 49:19doing that it's
  1140. 49:21um individuals who've got a clear track
  1141. 49:24record of identifying problems
  1142. 49:27and also um
  1143. 49:32uh
  1144. 49:36one thing is talking to sleuths and
  1145. 49:41hearing their kind of attitude to how
  1146. 49:42they will flag things. And um I can
  1147. 49:45think of one in particular who is very
  1148. 49:49despite having flagged thousands of
  1149. 49:50articles, he said that he would flag
  1150. 49:53maybe one in 10 of the articles he
  1151. 49:55thought were problematic
  1152. 49:57um because he was very very careful to
  1153. 49:59not allow false positives. And that's
  1154. 50:01been a key part of what we do as well.
  1155. 50:04We're very very strict on um avoiding
  1156. 50:07false positives and that works really
  1157. 50:10well in practice as well because we know
  1158. 50:12that if this is the first stage in peer
  1159. 50:14review and uh we allow it to
  1160. 50:17occasionally miss things that's actually
  1161. 50:19okay because the rejection rate on this
  1162. 50:21stuff is really really high in peer
  1163. 50:23review. So we know that peer review um
  1164. 50:27would catch anything that we miss. So
  1165. 50:28it's okay to miss things occasionally.
  1166. 50:30Um but false positives those cost time
  1167. 50:34and so we avoid them uh very very
  1168. 50:37carefully.
  1169. 50:39[clears throat]
  1170. 50:39>> Yeah. Okay. So our last question maybe
  1171. 50:44how safe is to sorry this is we already
  1172. 50:48done that but what are some early
  1173. 50:51warning signals editors can detect even
  1174. 50:55before peer review begins? H um maybe
  1175. 51:00just answer the first question quickly.
  1176. 51:01We have um for every publisher we have
  1177. 51:05completely siloed data. So it's not
  1178. 51:07possible for anyone else to ever see uh
  1179. 51:10your submission data.
  1180. 51:14We also have um uh a manual upload
  1181. 51:16feature. So you can just upload a single
  1182. 51:18article and check it. But the way that
  1183. 51:20our system works, we will screen 100% of
  1184. 51:23publications and 100% of submissions. So
  1185. 51:26it's pretty rare that anyone ever needs
  1186. 51:27to do that. Um the
  1187. 51:31um sorry the the question was about uh
  1188. 51:35yeah the early warning things. So I'd
  1189. 51:37say the the alert is intended to be an
  1190. 51:41early warning. I mean we we've called it
  1191. 51:43the early warning API
  1192. 51:46and
  1193. 51:47that can be as simple as just a traffic
  1194. 51:49light alert system. Red, orange, green.
  1195. 51:53>> Yeah. And like I say, some publishers
  1196. 51:55can work very efficiently and quickly
  1197. 51:57with just that. Um, but where more
  1198. 52:01information is needed, these reports
  1199. 52:03have always been built around how can we
  1200. 52:05get to a decision quickly? Um,
  1201. 52:10without having to put a huge amount of
  1202. 52:11time in. Um, and that's really the
  1203. 52:16the logic here with screening. Um and we
  1204. 52:19treat that as being a bit distinct to
  1205. 52:21investigation which is when we do need
  1206. 52:22to put time in.
  1207. 52:25>> Yeah. As we come to the end of this
  1208. 52:28great webinar, yeah, I would like to
  1209. 52:30thank you very much Mr. Adam Day for the
  1210. 52:34sharing your experience and for this
  1211. 52:37great presentation and understanding how
  1212. 52:42paper mills operate and how editors can
  1213. 52:45detect and uh respond to them is
  1214. 52:49essential for protecting the integrity
  1215. 52:53and credibility of the research record.
  1216. 52:57And thank you

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