Inside Chelsea FC with Commercial Director Zarah Al-Kudcy | S1 EP 21 | We Are Chelsea Podcast — Transcript
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- 0:00we had said to them the ti will turn
- 0:01come January with Manu and it did and
- 0:04then Real Madrid and then Arsenal and we
- 0:06got there and I think that built a lot
- 0:08of trust along the way as well so you
- 0:10know I Haven bought a half and half
- 0:11scarf for the Barcelona game because you
- 0:13can never take that game away from us
- 0:18now hello and welcome to we are Chelsea
- 0:22the official podcast of Chelsea women
- 0:23brought to you in association with scod
- 0:26the official car partner of Chelsea
- 0:27women and proud supporters of women
- 0:30sport I'm kores and today we're delving
- 0:33into the business side of the club I'm
- 0:35joined by Zara Aly who is the commercial
- 0:39director at Chelsea women FC she's here
- 0:41to give us a fascinating insight into
- 0:44the work she does how she negotiates
- 0:46sponsorship deals for the players and
- 0:47the growth of the women's game welcome
- 0:50to we are Chelsea well hello Zara
- 0:53welcome to we are Chelsea thanks for
- 0:55speaking to me how are you I'm good
- 0:57thank you and you can see that we're in
- 0:59mid Euro with my top we can see that mid
- 1:03Euros yeah the guys are playing tonight
- 1:06nice to see that you're supporting them
- 1:09I wanted to ask you a little bit for
- 1:12those who don't know about your role at
- 1:15the club and what it entails CU we've
- 1:17had a lot of players and we have had
- 1:19someone from the commercial team but it
- 1:21was Karly tord so I feel like lots of
- 1:23people might know can you tell us Zara
- 1:26exactly what you do at the club and what
- 1:27your role is yeah you know I don't even
- 1:29feel like I warrant an episode on the
- 1:31podcast cuz kly so kly and I joke about
- 1:34when we go into pitches I always ask if
- 1:36I can introduce myself first because I
- 1:38can't back it up with when I played for
- 1:40England and I played for Chelsea by the
- 1:41way um so I joined the club to I mean
- 1:45it's pretty much does what it says in
- 1:46the Tim which is build the business out
- 1:48around the women's team so super
- 1:50successful on the pitch but the new
- 1:52owners you know the women's team's very
- 1:54much part of their um their plans and
- 1:56they made that very clear when I met
- 1:58with them the early last year year and
- 2:00they said come in build the business out
- 2:03um put some commercial growth in
- 2:04primarily around sponsorship and match
- 2:06day they're the two focuses and that is
- 2:08in General on women's football that's
- 2:10where the growth area is right now um
- 2:12and that's what we've been focusing on
- 2:14so that is why we're also here so this
- 2:16is such a great example of what my remit
- 2:19was was to identify ways that one we can
- 2:22um you know better showcase our player
- 2:25stories and I think podcasts are a great
- 2:27format to do that in because it gives
- 2:29them the to talk about themselves and
- 2:31you know I think you've done a fantastic
- 2:33job as the presenter in pulling that out
- 2:35from them um but then in return it's
- 2:37also given scoda a great partnership
- 2:40asset as well which they absolutely love
- 2:43I do think the podcast every time I
- 2:46speak to someone I'm so riveted by their
- 2:48stories that I feel like a broken record
- 2:50because I'm like I could talk to you all
- 2:51day but I genuinely could talk to them
- 2:54all day and they're such different
- 2:56personalities which makes it so
- 2:58interesting and even I know you said
- 3:00that you don't warrant an episode but
- 3:02even speaking to someone who isn't a
- 3:04player but
- 3:05works at the club Behind the Scenes it's
- 3:08so important because so many of us love
- 3:11football and we'd love to be players but
- 3:14if you can't be a player the nearest
- 3:16thing is working at a club or working
- 3:17within the industry or working within
- 3:19football so it's really nice to hear the
- 3:22different kind of jobs that you that you
- 3:25can
- 3:26do still within your passion right mhm
- 3:30yeah no I'd agree and I think the nicest
- 3:32thing also is when I hear the players
- 3:34talk to you it sounds like anyway that
- 3:36they genuinely are enjoying it as well
- 3:39um and I think that's because they you
- 3:41know it is a comfortable space to talk
- 3:43about yourself and and I also feel like
- 3:45you know they sound like they probably
- 3:46could have gone on for a little bit
- 3:48longer with you as well as you say that
- 3:50you could have talked to them all day
- 3:51some of them definitely sound like they
- 3:52could have talked to you all day as well
- 3:55well I hope so because I'm always like
- 3:57get back on the podcast I think I've had
- 3:59Erin on a couple of times and I'm always
- 4:00like Come Again Come
- 4:03Again what does a typical day look like
- 4:07for you when you come in at
- 4:08Chelsea um that's probably where you
- 4:11know the business side and the playing
- 4:12side is a little bit more different that
- 4:14in that there is no typical day um and I
- 4:17mean sort of I'll wake up do a workout
- 4:20bit of duelingo like Hannah I'm also
- 4:22learning Italian oh are you yes and I
- 4:26suspect she's probably already much
- 4:28better than I am um and then uh and then
- 4:31right now you know we're in the midst of
- 4:33tour planning so New York and DC looking
- 4:36ahead to
- 4:372425 planning you know whether it's sort
- 4:40of scheduling for a match day ticket
- 4:42pricing um experiences then I guess the
- 4:45only consistent piece is probably
- 4:47sponsorship so we will always be looking
- 4:50at our partner portfolio um servicing
- 4:53our current Partners finding ways for
- 4:55them maybe to do more as was the case
- 4:57with scod in this podcast um so that's
- 4:59probably the consistent piece but that's
- 5:01why I mean I've worked in sport for 20
- 5:03years that's what I love about sport is
- 5:04that no day is ever even in your diary
- 5:07you can see what you've got and
- 5:08something will just happen throughout
- 5:09the day a complete U-turn but it's a
- 5:12real privilege to be able to work in
- 5:13something that's a passion and I love
- 5:16that you said that no day is the same
- 5:17because I think sometimes people assume
- 5:20an an office job is syy because we
- 5:23assume that office jobs are the typical
- 5:26office jobs but it's great cuz when
- 5:27you're at a club it's exactly what you
- 5:29say it's completely different today
- 5:31you're recording a podcast tomorrow
- 5:32you're pitching an idea next week you're
- 5:34at a game maybe entertaining commercial
- 5:36Partners like it's it can be so verified
- 5:39so anyone who would like to work at a
- 5:42football club maybe this is a way for
- 5:46them how many people are in your team
- 5:49and how much I guess investment is there
- 5:52in the Staffing around women's football
- 5:55currently because I imagine that's gone
- 5:58up quite a lot so I have three people
- 6:01directly you've mentioned one being
- 6:03Carly um but there is dedicated resource
- 6:06across the business where there's a sort
- 6:08of dotted line for once of a better
- 6:10description um across marketing coms
- 6:13content and we will have weekly meetings
- 6:16collectively specifically on you know
- 6:18during the season it tends to be more
- 6:20focused on Match day um and out of
- 6:23season we're now obviously in tour but
- 6:25there is definitely an increase in
- 6:27resource across departments and I think
- 6:29in light of the news that you know the
- 6:31fans may have read a few weeks ago that
- 6:33this s of again as a club structure
- 6:35we're making sure that the women's team
- 6:36sits alongside and equal to our men's
- 6:38team when it comes to financial
- 6:40reporting the business structure and
- 6:43with that that will come with an
- 6:44increase in resource and dedicated
- 6:46support to the women's team so they are
- 6:48very much their own business and and you
- 6:51you know you said it yourself that it's
- 6:53reflecting the growth in general at
- 6:54Women's Football I sort of I just came
- 6:57back from can lion which is a big
- 6:59advertising conference um it sounds like
- 7:01sounds terrible doesn't it I was in the
- 7:03south of France for a few days um and
- 7:05there's a really nice sort of parallel
- 7:06story in that when I first went there
- 7:08five years ago for the job that I was in
- 7:11at the time um the Women's World Cup was
- 7:13also on and sports panel so for anyone
- 7:16that's not done can line it's
- 7:17essentially a massive conference on the
- 7:19beach so there's loads of different
- 7:21places like Google will have something
- 7:23you know Yahoo um ad agencies Brands so
- 7:27everyone goes there and it tends to be
- 7:29about um advertising and media um and 5
- 7:33years ago sport wasn't really on the
- 7:35agenda someone arranged for some of us
- 7:36to go and watch England Japan at um in
- 7:39Ni it happens that Karie was actually in
- 7:41that Squad I don't think she played in
- 7:42that game but she was in the squad um
- 7:45and you know it was half full Stadium we
- 7:48sort of had to be shipped out to go and
- 7:49watch it and I think five years on and
- 7:52sport was very much at the heart of can
- 7:54lion this year so there was a lot of
- 7:56dedicated space there was a women's
- 7:58sports house um where they every single
- 8:01session for four days was dedicated to
- 8:03the conversation around women's sport
- 8:05you know you had Mary hers Gemma boner
- 8:07Alesia Russo all on panels and there was
- 8:10a great moment where I could see Samy
- 8:11hippia so you know Liverpool Legends
- 8:14trying queuing to get into sports beach
- 8:17house where Gemma boner was sat in the
- 8:19VIP area because she was actually about
- 8:21to go on stage so um it was a really
- 8:23good indication of where how far women's
- 8:25football's come in that cycle yeah and
- 8:28another great benefit to your job
- 8:30getting to go to N I promise it is hard
- 8:34work it is hard
- 8:36work um let's talk about the impact of
- 8:39what you've achieved this season because
- 8:4339,380
- 8:50how big was that and how proud was you
- 8:54and your team of that number um you know
- 8:57I think proud gets overused which is why
- 8:59I try not to use it too much but in that
- 9:01instance I was massively proud um
- 9:04because it had been a really long
- 9:06journey um you know for the fans the
- 9:08players and I think particularly for the
- 9:09team here um at Stanford bridge on the
- 9:12business side Arsenal are ahead of us
- 9:15you know they did a great job after
- 9:16Euro's 2022 they had their first
- 9:19Emirates match then and they' built a
- 9:20massive database and they've built in
- 9:22that year on year but there always seems
- 9:24to be this narrative in women's sport
- 9:26that there's only room for one to
- 9:28succeed and I I think sort of this
- 9:30narrative also carried on throughout the
- 9:31season you know partly some fan
- 9:34narrative some media narrative around
- 9:36the fact that you know continually
- 9:38comparing us to Arsenal um and we knew
- 9:41that we were behind but it can be it's a
- 9:43really visual way sort of to be held to
- 9:45account um so I was really pleased for
- 9:48as I say the fans the players and the
- 9:50team here that they got that moment not
- 9:52just the Barcelona game I actually think
- 9:54the Arsenal game at Stanford Bridge was
- 9:56the big turning point for us um the
- 9:58atmosphere that was you mentioned
- 10:00earlier like that atmosphere that night
- 10:02is probably the closest I will ever ever
- 10:05get to feeling what it feels like to be
- 10:07a player on the pitch at Stanford Bridge
- 10:10because you know you feel like you've
- 10:11actually you're part of why it feels
- 10:13like that um and so I kind of that that
- 10:17was a huge thing for us and right quite
- 10:19early on you know Emma actually said to
- 10:21me that we should be honest and go and
- 10:23tell the players what the plans are
- 10:24because we came from you know our
- 10:27opening game against uh Spurs back in
- 10:30October I felt sick coming to Stanford
- 10:33Bridge like I did not want to come to
- 10:34the game because I knew that we only had
- 10:3619,000 fans um or tickets sold and um it
- 10:41was a really challenging day in the fact
- 10:43that it was the first time we and
- 10:45arsenal were at home in our main stadium
- 10:47um Arsenal got the lunchtime kickoff and
- 10:49so we'd had a lot of feedback from
- 10:50families saying they'll go and watch
- 10:52Arsenal and then they'll go home watch
- 10:53us on TV so we got a great TV audience
- 10:56but then we got picked apart with our
- 10:58Stadium on that day um and we then knew
- 11:01that we had Liverpool where we had a
- 11:03slightly lower attendance we have to
- 11:05play our Champions League group games at
- 11:07Stanford bridge for regulation purposes
- 11:10but we know that we would only get to
- 11:11about three or 4 thousand at the moment
- 11:13on the Champions League side of stuff
- 11:15which that's a great atmosphere at Kings
- 11:17Meadow that's close to a sellout um but
- 11:19putting three or 4 thousand people in
- 11:21Stanford bridge is it's heartbreaking um
- 11:25and Emma just said go and talk the team
- 11:27through the plans and explain to them
- 11:29um which we did quite possibly one of
- 11:32the hardest meetings I've ever had to go
- 11:34and be part of yeah how did they react
- 11:37uh I mean actually a number of them just
- 11:39said they really appreciated the honesty
- 11:41because I think sometimes we you know we
- 11:43can all be guilty of not wanting to to
- 11:45give honest feedback and we try and
- 11:48dress it up with something else yes um
- 11:50and then actually it's sort of you're
- 11:52not managing people's expectations but
- 11:54we had said them the Tye will turn come
- 11:56January with Manu and it did um and then
- 11:59Real Madrid and then Arsenal um and and
- 12:02we got there and I think that built a
- 12:03lot of trust along the way as well so
- 12:06you know there were a lot of factors in
- 12:07all of it but I think that Arsenal and
- 12:10the barcel game are just you know I hav
- 12:12bought a half and half scarf for the
- 12:13Barcelona game because you can never
- 12:15take that game away from us now yeah I
- 12:18mean it's really good that that I guess
- 12:20Emma said keep it transparent and
- 12:22explain it to the players because there
- 12:24is a real partnership that needs to
- 12:27happen because commercially you can only
- 12:29succeed if they're on board and they
- 12:31need to be on board if they trust what
- 12:33you're doing commercially so I can
- 12:36totally see why they would appreciate
- 12:39that and how that would help I guess my
- 12:41next question would be what kind of work
- 12:44behind the scenes helps you reach that
- 12:47goal and what kind of audiences are you
- 12:49trying to attract because there are so
- 12:51many within the game there's the
- 12:52hardcore Chelsea fans there's the
- 12:54Lioness fans there's just the general
- 12:57football fan the London event go
- 13:00so um there's a couple things one is
- 13:02actually understanding the fan
- 13:04demographics you know you're 100% right
- 13:06that's what we need to do and and that's
- 13:08where um yeah we're all still learning
- 13:10on that front because actually there's a
- 13:11lot of new fans coming into women's
- 13:13football so no one knows who they are um
- 13:16and the league have actually just done
- 13:17some fan demographic work which they've
- 13:19taken um our CMO CLA Cronin through and
- 13:22our marketing team and made it a lot
- 13:24more simple that it's effectively three
- 13:26groups you've got your core fan and they
- 13:29tend to be predominantly female fans and
- 13:31super passionate about the game you know
- 13:33from a Chelsea point of view they've
- 13:34probably been with us since we're at
- 13:35stains um and they're definitely Kings
- 13:37Meadow people and and they they play a
- 13:40huge influence on not only bringing new
- 13:42fans in but also when they come they
- 13:44sort of that experience and environment
- 13:46piece then you have the free fan and
- 13:49that is probably the biggest growth area
- 13:50they're the new fans that kind of didn't
- 13:52really feel like the men's game served
- 13:54anything for them historically or they
- 13:56may have played when they were younger
- 13:57and then there wasn't a women product
- 13:59for them to follow and they've come in
- 14:01mainly through the euros and the World
- 14:03Cup or or through the lesses essentially
- 14:06and UEFA you know they talk a lot about
- 14:08the fact they had some data that said
- 14:0930% of new fans to women's football are
- 14:13new fans to football um period um and
- 14:16then you have the secondary fans who are
- 14:18the men's you know the men's football
- 14:19fans and that's that that will always be
- 14:21their priority and we sort of started to
- 14:23see it because we've had more games now
- 14:25we can look at that data so you know
- 14:27only five six% of our ticket purchases
- 14:30for the nine games we held at Stanford
- 14:32bridge last year were men's season
- 14:34ticket holders so we sort of have to
- 14:36start to dispel some of the you know
- 14:38myths around just get the men's fans in
- 14:40they you know they'll want to come and
- 14:42it's like actually we're different
- 14:43products um yeah you know I think it's
- 14:45the more we the more we get people
- 14:46coming the more we understand that um
- 14:48and then I think I would also add just
- 14:49to build on your point around the
- 14:51players that's where Carly's role has
- 14:53been really important um you know when I
- 14:56Emma introduced me to Kari last year and
- 14:58she didn't want to do coaching and said
- 15:00that she wanted to do marketing or
- 15:02commercial she wasn't really sure so I
- 15:04said well come in let's do a bit of test
- 15:06and learning um I think you'd be great
- 15:08in commercial because um she is one of
- 15:11the most naturally gifted salespeople
- 15:13I've ever met and that's just she is I
- 15:16remember being on the podcast with her
- 15:17and I was like I will buy anything
- 15:18you're selling she is because she but
- 15:21she believes in it like there's no
- 15:22better thing for a salesperson she
- 15:24doesn't know she's selling half the time
- 15:27because she's just you know she just
- 15:28loves it and she can talk from the heart
- 15:30because she's only just retired she's
- 15:32still so well connected to the game and
- 15:34and to this squad in particular um and
- 15:37so she's been great because she actually
- 15:40holds us as a business to account on
- 15:42behalf of the players again without
- 15:44realizing that she's doing it but you
- 15:45know I also just love the sort of her
- 15:47business naivity because we'll sit in
- 15:49meetings and she'll say to me like why
- 15:51do we do that and I think I don't know
- 15:53actually it's just how we've always done
- 15:54it um and so it's just been great having
- 15:57her player vision in the room and I
- 16:00think you know we've got a lot of fans
- 16:02of the club in the club and so making
- 16:04sure the fans are at the heart of our
- 16:05decision making often comes as second
- 16:08nature but making sure the players are
- 16:10also at the heart of what we do is very
- 16:12much where Cari comes in you know with a
- 16:15very unique skill set yeah she was she
- 16:17was using I think it was neif as an
- 16:19example with scod and she sort of said
- 16:22it just was so natural because she
- 16:23genuinely loves scoda her whole family
- 16:26do and I guess that's where Maybe um
- 16:29Kari knowing the girls knowing these
- 16:31things knowing genuinely that her dad
- 16:34has a scoda cuz if you work with the
- 16:36players and you see their car every day
- 16:38you might see that she drives one you
- 16:39might not know that her dad her mom her
- 16:42sister and everyone else has one um so
- 16:45it's good that she just is walking
- 16:47Encyclopedia of the of the team and I I
- 16:51also want to know is that the Target now
- 16:54for next season selling out Stanford
- 16:56bridge on a regular basis from a
- 16:58commercial perspective um I think from a
- 17:01commercial and a fan perspective you
- 17:03know we had four League games and five
- 17:06Champions League games this year um I
- 17:09think we will probably land on something
- 17:11very similar well I'm presuming we make
- 17:13quarterfinals and semi-finals again but
- 17:15you know we will probably have something
- 17:16very similar in terms of the league and
- 17:19group games and I think there you know
- 17:21there's a real danger because obviously
- 17:23arsenal we come back to the comparison
- 17:24Point um set the Benchmark of announcing
- 17:27eight League games and three champions
- 17:29league if they qualify um and so the the
- 17:33question automatically came to us is
- 17:34well will we do more League games and um
- 17:37and we said no actually we'd rather
- 17:39maintain what we've had this year but
- 17:41make sure that the audience and
- 17:42attendance keeps increasing because to
- 17:45have three or four sellouts um or as
- 17:48close to sellouts as you can get with
- 17:50the WSL games is so much more impactful
- 17:52from a fan and a player atmosphere and
- 17:55environment um and just a perception
- 17:57point of view when you come and see sold
- 17:59out St Ridge versus going yeah let's
- 18:01keep up with them and let's say we're
- 18:02going to do six and then we''ll be
- 18:04having that conversation again with the
- 18:05players of well we you know we had
- 18:07Ambitions and we pushed um beyond what
- 18:10we did before so you know I think we're
- 18:12really confident having seen how the
- 18:14season ended with the Barcelona game the
- 18:16lessons that we've learned the more data
- 18:17that we've got um the team structure
- 18:20that's now in place there a a really
- 18:21great team you know cla's marketing team
- 18:24is of filled in all the right roles um
- 18:27to make sure that that you've got that
- 18:28source and I have to say the team
- 18:31themselves there some of the best people
- 18:33I've worked with because they absolutely
- 18:34love it but they also learn from outside
- 18:36you know they'll go and look at what the
- 18:37WNBA is doing or um the Barcelona
- 18:40women's team are doing so that they kind
- 18:42of they're open to seeing what everyone
- 18:44else is doing as well this podcast is
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- 19:23we talked a little bit about um not
- 19:25comparing to Arsenal um which I just did
- 19:28yeah but you said you know you don't
- 19:30want to compare to them so you don't
- 19:31want to do more matches at Stanford
- 19:33bridge but is the long-term goal to
- 19:36eventually move out of King's Meadow
- 19:38fulltime and be at Stanford bridge is
- 19:41that what you guys are maybe thinking in
- 19:43in 5 years
- 19:45time I um if I take a step back I think
- 19:50as women's football fans all of us we
- 19:52would love to see main stadiums being
- 19:54sold out across the league for majority
- 19:56of games um and if that is where the
- 19:58growth goes then ultimately the fans
- 20:01will dictate it if if the um attendance
- 20:04keeps growing to the point that actually
- 20:06it makes sense for us to have more and
- 20:07more games in Stanford bridge then
- 20:10that's what we will do but I I don't
- 20:12think you know I I don't think we should
- 20:15or I wouldn't want to say at this point
- 20:16yes in 10 years time the aim is to play
- 20:18every single game at Stanford Bridge of
- 20:20course it is but we also have to be
- 20:22dictated by actually what's happening
- 20:24season on season so um it's also
- 20:26Bittersweet isn't it because as much as
- 20:28in my head I'm like oh it's brilliant
- 20:30when you go and watch Stanford Bridge
- 20:32there is something so special about
- 20:34King's meow you I've got so much fomo
- 20:36listening to all your episodes of
- 20:37everyone talking about that Bristol game
- 20:39because I was on holiday and I couldn't
- 20:41come and every single player you've
- 20:42spoken to so far has said how amazing
- 20:44the atmosphere was at that game and you
- 20:46know and I I I agree I think Kings
- 20:48Meadow is such a great and whenever I've
- 20:50taken people down there to watch it and
- 20:52they tend to be men's football fans
- 20:54honestly they come about raving about it
- 20:56they're like to be this close to this
- 20:58quality of football yeah um and be
- 21:01amongst it they just you know they're
- 21:03like it's really unique so that that's
- 21:05where I mean that's where I think it can
- 21:06be dangerous to make a big bold
- 21:07statement of yes by 2030 because that
- 21:10seems to be the Year everyone leans
- 21:12towards um you know we'll have
- 21:13everything out because that is also a
- 21:15special place for us because I do think
- 21:18there is lots of Bittersweet moments
- 21:20with the women's game because as it's
- 21:21growing it's fantastic and we all want
- 21:23it to grow but at the same time you're
- 21:26losing I guess the proximity to the
- 21:28player is is one they don't have time
- 21:30now to be getting cold speaking to every
- 21:34single fan because there are so many of
- 21:37us now which is great CU that's what we
- 21:39want but equally we don't want them to
- 21:41get injured because the most important
- 21:42thing is we want them to be playing well
- 21:44and winning um they can't be signing as
- 21:46many autographs so it there's always
- 21:49these kind of Bittersweet moments so I
- 21:51totally understand I loved watching the
- 21:53games that I've watched at Stanford
- 21:55bridge and it was Electric but I did
- 21:59feel like a different kind of emotion
- 22:03when I was at Kings Meadow I guess more
- 22:05um not nostalgic because you're still
- 22:08there but it felt just more like a
- 22:11home-cooked meal if that makes sense do
- 22:13you know what I mean it just like no I
- 22:15know what you mean I think it's just I
- 22:17think we'll get to the point that
- 22:19there'll be different payoffs um so if I
- 22:22look at our two so as an example this
- 22:24year we had 300 fans go to the man city
- 22:27game for our opening our first away game
- 22:29of the season and 300 is a doable number
- 22:32that in theory the whole Squad probably
- 22:34could have got around to every single
- 22:35person in the away end and sign
- 22:36something if if that was um you know if
- 22:39that was what was needed and then we had
- 22:413,000 fans at Old Trafford for the last
- 22:43game of the season now there's no way
- 22:45the squad can get around 3,000 players
- 22:48but you think about what that felt like
- 22:49as a fan to be part of a group of 3,000
- 22:53people um and be part of that moment
- 22:55it's a very different so yes they may
- 22:57not have that oneon-one in that moment
- 22:59um but they had that I was there and I
- 23:02think there's a real piece about being
- 23:04part of a bigger Community as well so um
- 23:07I hear you and I think it's something
- 23:08that everyone's very conscious about
- 23:09it's think that even we've recognized
- 23:11you know that's actually where there's
- 23:12partner opportunities about how can some
- 23:14of our partners make some of their um
- 23:17assets like open training sessions or
- 23:19signed merch available to fans um so
- 23:22actually there is still that connection
- 23:24back and that must have been another
- 23:27proud moment I know you said you don't
- 23:29like to use the word proud but knowing
- 23:31300 and you're ending on 3,000 you're
- 23:34doing something right um yeah I mean I
- 23:37think it was and it was just it again
- 23:39it's just I think a really good
- 23:40indication of the growth um of the this
- 23:44the team um and the work that's been
- 23:46done particularly by the content and the
- 23:48marketing team you know I would I'd
- 23:50probably go as far to say this podcast
- 23:52has helped with that as well it's one of
- 23:53the reasons that we've done it um I said
- 23:56to I mean honestly the idea this came I
- 23:58said to
- 23:59if I could take um what you sort of what
- 24:02the Insight you show me of every single
- 24:04player and if I could take that to the
- 24:06masses we'd have something amazing
- 24:07because I'm like I just love the stories
- 24:09that you tell me about them um or even
- 24:11if you know I pop down to training and
- 24:13just be around it and so that's what
- 24:16this was meant to do and I think it's
- 24:18you know there's not one thing that
- 24:19drove the 3,000 people but it is
- 24:21probably the podcast the social media um
- 24:24coming to one of the games at Stanford
- 24:26Bridge maybe coming to King's Meadow
- 24:27it's all of bit builds up um and it was
- 24:30it was it was a phenomenal and and also
- 24:32just the way that season ended you know
- 24:34to have gone from that Liverpool game um
- 24:37yes and then to have turned it around
- 24:39the way that it went it was that was
- 24:41that was a really special way to end the
- 24:43season it was a real Chelsea Emma ending
- 24:48it was just when you thought oh oh gosh
- 24:51we've been given a Lifeline here okay
- 24:53how are we going to how are we going to
- 24:55handle this Lifeline because it what
- 24:56everyone was so it's gone it's it's
- 24:59ending on a low and it just ended on the
- 25:02most incredible high and it is you know
- 25:05when you're a Chelsea fan you always or
- 25:08any fan of any team you always want your
- 25:11team to win well in advance just because
- 25:12you're like safe we' won but when you
- 25:16know that they're going to in hindsight
- 25:18when you know that you can win on the
- 25:20last game of the season you just take
- 25:23that thrill any day because it was it's
- 25:25just amazing it's just the risk going
- 25:27into it you just feel the nerves are
- 25:29just at an all-time high but the girls
- 25:32were absolutely incredible so it was
- 25:34brilliant shame for me because I
- 25:37couldn't I couldn't actually get to
- 25:39speak to them until a few days later cuz
- 25:41I was like they're all going to be
- 25:42celebrating they're all going to be
- 25:43doing this no one's going to be wanting
- 25:44to one of my highlights actually from
- 25:46that game is we were traveling back on
- 25:48the Sunday and we happened to stop at
- 25:50the service station um with where there
- 25:53were some West Ham men's fans that were
- 25:55on their way up to Manchester to play
- 25:57their last game against City and um we
- 25:59were all waiting to get back on the bus
- 26:01and like they were proper you know
- 26:03proper West Ham fans the only way I can
- 26:05describe it it was 10:30 in the morning
- 26:06and they had bacon buy and a beer okay
- 26:09and um and I heard a group of them
- 26:12because I was I was sat next to them
- 26:13before we were boarding saying and all
- 26:15the players were sort just standing
- 26:16around as well and he looked over and he
- 26:17went oh that's Sam Kerr over there um
- 26:20and he goes she's got a rating of 96 on
- 26:22FIFA and then his mate goes yeah they
- 26:24won yesterday they just won the league
- 26:26um you know they won six nil and I just
- 26:29thought it's phenomenal that they've had
- 26:31that that yeah it was just a
- 26:32conversation piece and that for me
- 26:34that's a really good example of you know
- 26:36they they are I I'd put them in the
- 26:38women's football fans now because
- 26:39they're aware of it they may never come
- 26:41and watch but actually that's how
- 26:43women's football's growth is consuming
- 26:45the broader um football demographic and
- 26:48not just about people that just come and
- 26:50watch absolutely and also I think people
- 26:53will sometimes be flicking over and they
- 26:56catch a women's game and they won't
- 26:58naturally go oh it's women's football
- 27:00not men's they'll keep it on it's good
- 27:02quality football I know who some of
- 27:04these players are I know what they're
- 27:05doing and it grows from there the more
- 27:08you watch it the more you go oh this is
- 27:11brilliant I was about to swear them this
- 27:13is this is very
- 27:16brilliant tell us about some of the
- 27:18Partnerships that you've worked on this
- 27:20season we of course know about scod
- 27:22because they're the official car partner
- 27:23of this podcast um but what are some of
- 27:25the other Partnerships that you've been
- 27:26working on um so lindel our Swedish KAG
- 27:30I don't know if I'm going to say that
- 27:31right so you have to maybe check with
- 27:32cheer next time but um our Swedish
- 27:35yogurt and I I probably take actually
- 27:38before jumping in on each of them one of
- 27:40the things that K and I have talked
- 27:41about with any of our partners is making
- 27:42sure that there's a purpose to any of
- 27:45the partners that join Chelsea women so
- 27:47they have to either serve a purpose for
- 27:48the fan the player or the community and
- 27:51with lindel it was about supporting the
- 27:54fan Away Travel um and so they you know
- 27:56they've supplemented that throughout the
- 27:58season um Cornerstone are our e-learning
- 28:02employee platform so they actually help
- 28:04the whole business um because it extends
- 28:06actually Beyond just those that work on
- 28:07the women's team um in terms of their HR
- 28:10and their performance um scoda we've
- 28:13talked about I mean there are so many
- 28:14things I love about that partnership one
- 28:16needs love for it but also um this the
- 28:20fact that they provide cars for Academy
- 28:22players to be able to use to be able to
- 28:24access cbum to hopefully you know make
- 28:26that a little bit more accessible if
- 28:27needed
- 28:28um and then Lego you know right at the
- 28:30start of the season they did a great um
- 28:34day at down in cbum and with Sam C there
- 28:37bit of an irony to this actually because
- 28:38the whole thing was around resilience
- 28:41and build back ability so how you come
- 28:43back from something difficult that
- 28:45you've had to deal with okay um so it
- 28:47was just I think for all of them it's
- 28:49it's being able to see how they
- 28:50contribute yes money is important but
- 28:53actually they've all contributed in a
- 28:54broader way um of growing sort of our
- 28:57our women's team and how much interest
- 29:00has there been in the women's game from
- 29:02Brands and Commercial Partnerships at
- 29:05this moment in time and what sort of
- 29:06brands are looking to work with Chelsea
- 29:09ac across I guess the men's and the
- 29:11women's team but it's we always hear
- 29:13about the interest in men's team when
- 29:16they're doing really well and you know
- 29:18in general because of the TV numbers but
- 29:21how much growth have you seen in the
- 29:23interest for the women's game too oh
- 29:26honestly the interest is it's been huge
- 29:28um I think the the challenge actually
- 29:29allot the time is K and like getting
- 29:31through all of it while also doing um a
- 29:33broader job so it's you know it can come
- 29:36from anywhere I think lindle and scod
- 29:38are really good examples of Lyles don't
- 29:40do any other sponsorship um scod also
- 29:42work in cycling but and they're already
- 29:44doing a little bit more um I think this
- 29:46is their first football partnership in
- 29:48the UK um so there's a lot of brands
- 29:51that actually haven't done a lot of
- 29:52sponsorship that see women's football as
- 29:54something they want to get involved in
- 29:56um I think there's it it's more your
- 29:59your big blue chip brands um there's
- 30:01quite a lot in the financial sector so
- 30:03obviously Barkley's are the league
- 30:04partner um but in general in women's
- 30:07sport you'll see all sorts of Brands AMX
- 30:09Chase
- 30:11HSBC um you know revolute whoever that
- 30:14just looking at how they can tell a
- 30:16women's sports story so finance and tech
- 30:19seem to be quite heavy because there's a
- 30:20lot of parallel story to storytelling
- 30:23for both of them in their Industries
- 30:25because they tend to be male Le industry
- 30:28so they like having a um a very similar
- 30:32story to tell but honestly I mean you
- 30:33nameing a brand we've probably spoken to
- 30:35them at some point this year it's been a
- 30:36real eclectic mix um and it's been Lov
- 30:39to see but we've also been very clear
- 30:41that our team has a value um you know
- 30:43women's sport is not a freebie add-on
- 30:46anymore um and that I think is the big
- 30:49line that we've held um as to who gets
- 30:51to partner with us and also making sure
- 30:53and again that's where kly is such a
- 30:55great Cent check there'll be sometimes
- 30:57some Brands and I at her and she'd be
- 30:58like oh I don't know you might need to
- 31:00check with the girls about that one um
- 31:03okay so you know I think it's it's it's
- 31:05brands that want to do proper purpose
- 31:08partnership I mean I'm going to say I've
- 31:10said it earlier and I'm going to say it
- 31:12again I'm running out of time I could
- 31:13speak to you and I really don't want you
- 31:15to um end on a she kept me there all day
- 31:19so I'm going to try I've got so many
- 31:21questions left but I'm going to try and
- 31:23um Whittle through them as much as I can
- 31:26uh you guys won the Ws title it was
- 31:29amazing last day of the season from a
- 31:31staff and a fan point of view how
- 31:34incredible was that end of season within
- 31:38the
- 31:38club I mean it was just it was just huge
- 31:41I I think it's one of those in a way I
- 31:44mean this has been you know my first
- 31:46season here and I think the club has got
- 31:47used to winning trophies every year you
- 31:50know this was fifth league title back to
- 31:53back but the way that they won it this
- 31:55year um and then the added story line of
- 31:58Emma leaving I think really added to
- 32:00that moment um and I think that's also
- 32:02where whether it's my team or those
- 32:05working on the women's side in other
- 32:06departments have become real ambassadors
- 32:08within the club for the women's team as
- 32:10well so it's sort of it's just generally
- 32:13I don't know any different but for me it
- 32:14felt like think that everyone celebrated
- 32:16um and I just also love that we try new
- 32:19things you'll have seen the Champions
- 32:20t-shirts and the Caps that we had you
- 32:22know that's the first time that we've
- 32:24done something like that where we've
- 32:25actually rolled out specific merch to
- 32:28celebrate that moment um so again it's a
- 32:31really good example of just testing and
- 32:32learning how Stuff runs and I I think I
- 32:34was right in saying that it sort of the
- 32:36first run that came out within 24 hours
- 32:38actually sold out so they then had to
- 32:40get more stock um so it was yeah it was
- 32:43a huge buzz and if anything you know I'm
- 32:45just really delighted for Emma um she's
- 32:47a big reason why I came to the club um
- 32:49and I was really worried I said to Karly
- 32:51at one point I hope I don't I hope I'm
- 32:53not the Jinx that this is the first
- 32:54season that she doesn't win anything
- 32:56since I think it was 19 um and so I'm
- 32:59just delighted she also got that moment
- 33:01as well yeah yeah I think we all can
- 33:03agree on that she definitely deserved
- 33:06leaving on a high and I and talking
- 33:09about Emma how excited are you for next
- 33:11season can you give us any sneak
- 33:14previews into what we can expect to see
- 33:16from the club um the main thing I'm
- 33:20excited about is I just feel like
- 33:21there's a really solid foundation now um
- 33:24as I said we've learned a lot from this
- 33:26year we've learned from day we've
- 33:28learned from things that have worked
- 33:29really well like the DJ um at Stanford
- 33:31bridge and I think he'll make a regular
- 33:33appearance now there's been a lot
- 33:34learned and that's not going to just be
- 33:36sort of Forgotten for next season so I
- 33:39feel like we're in a much better
- 33:40foundational position then I think the
- 33:42announcement that the club has made
- 33:44around actually the prominence and the
- 33:46reporting side of the Women's Business
- 33:48and adding resource to it and you know
- 33:50making it even stronger is also super
- 33:53exciting to see how that will grow um
- 33:55and then you know there's a change in
- 33:57the leag itself so there'll be a new
- 33:59body running um the WSL used to be run
- 34:02by the fa there's now an new
- 34:04organization running it and I think
- 34:05collectively that would be really um
- 34:07positive for all the clubs involved in
- 34:09terms of how that's commercialized
- 34:11moving forward and working with the
- 34:13clubs on that piece so no specifics I
- 34:15just and on tour actually I probably
- 34:17should start with that I am super
- 34:18excited for tour um I think the fact
- 34:21that we're going to New York and DC you
- 34:23know it's WSL versus nwsl Champions um
- 34:27in New New Jersey and then we'll have a
- 34:29couple days in New York and I have to
- 34:31promise not to like reveal too much
- 34:32stuff but that will be great um and then
- 34:34playing Arsenal in DC I just I think
- 34:37it's such a great way for one to start
- 34:39the Sonia era um so to give her that
- 34:42moment um also to to build on what we've
- 34:45started to do this season I kind of
- 34:48again putting players and fans at the
- 34:50heart of it who doesn't want to go to
- 34:51New York um so making sure they both
- 34:54have great times as well and set us up
- 34:56for The Following season and so there's
- 34:58a couple of announcements coming out in
- 35:00the following few weeks which I think
- 35:01you'll see um back up the sort of the
- 35:04focus and strength to strength that the
- 35:05women's team is going in oh so exciting
- 35:09yes New York and Chelsea Arsenal game I
- 35:12mean it's just brilliant it's what every
- 35:15fan wants to go and see and you get to
- 35:17hang out in New York and exactly what
- 35:19you said about Sonia because I think
- 35:21that announcement we were all hoping but
- 35:24it's really difficult to replace Emma
- 35:26and it's just like she's part of the
- 35:28furniture she's done so much and then
- 35:30when they announced Sonia it was like
- 35:32okay I think I think personally I felt
- 35:34relieved cuz I thought it's so difficult
- 35:38to replace him and I don't think she'll
- 35:39ever be really replaced in that way but
- 35:42you want an a new era that will be just
- 35:45as great and they found Sonia and it's I
- 35:48was like yes yeah I think and I also
- 35:51think you know Paul Green is Mr a
- 35:53continuity so it's not like there's a
- 35:55totally new era starting you've got
- 35:57someone that's been there for the last
- 35:5812 years as well that's very much at the
- 36:01Forefront of the decision- making and
- 36:02and Paul's been Fab so I think there's a
- 36:05there's it's it's a good combination of
- 36:07you still have that continuity but you
- 36:09know Sonia sounds phenomenal um and you
- 36:13know new players hopefully as well a
- 36:16couple maybe um so I think it's yeah
- 36:19it's it's a fantastic time a Zara thank
- 36:22you so much for speaking to me I still
- 36:24had like about five or six questions I
- 36:26wanted to ask you but I know that you're
- 36:28a very busy woman so thank you so much
- 36:30for coming on the podcast hopefully
- 36:31you've enjoyed yourself and if I ask you
- 36:33to come on again next season maybe you
- 36:35will I'd love
- 36:38to thank you so
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