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  1. 0:00How did you get into my country?
  2. 0:01>> My parents came here in in their 20s,
  3. 0:03man.
  4. 0:03>> Okay, are you an American?
  5. 0:05>> My DNA, my blood is from Africa.
  6. 0:07>> Then why aren't you there?
  7. 0:08>> Cuz I was born here cuz my parents
  8. 0:10didn't like Africa.
  9. 0:10>> Why don't you go back?
  10. 0:11>> Why would I go back when I'm doing well
  11. 0:13for myself here?
  12. 0:14>> Oh, you're doing well for yourself.
  13. 0:16>> Yeah.
  14. 0:17>> Well, so white supremacy must not be so
  15. 0:19bad.
  16. 0:21>> White supremacy must not be so bad.
  17. 0:24>> Yeah, it sounds like you're benefiting a
  18. 0:25lot from white supremacy.
  19. 0:28>> I I think I think
  20. 0:30I mean
  21. 0:33That's a tough uh that's tough, man.
  22. 0:35That's tough.
  23. 0:36>> It is tough. Leviathan 1776, thank you
  24. 0:39for the $20, Anglo Mogri, my guy.
  25. 0:42Oh, did we get Did we scare him off with
  26. 0:44the Anglo Mogri? He just said, "Yo, give
  27. 0:47me like 20 minutes to prepare." He
  28. 0:49literally messaged me earlier. He said,
  29. 0:51"You better prepare. I have notes." He
  30. 0:54goes, "Debate me if you dare." And I
  31. 0:57said, "Okay, I'm happy to have a a
  32. 0:58good-faith conversation." And I said,
  33. 1:00"Okay, we'll talk to you on stream, no
  34. 1:01problem." And he goes, "Yeah, we're
  35. 1:03superior to you. You better prepare. I
  36. 1:06have notes." I said, "Okay, yeah." And
  37. 1:08now it's time
  38. 1:09>> life force.
  39. 1:10>> It's an hour and a half later than we
  40. 1:12previously scheduled it for, too, by the
  41. 1:14way. I pushed it out an hour and a half.
  42. 1:17And I was like, "Yo, give me 20 minutes.
  43. 1:19Let me Google a bunch of reasons why
  44. 1:20blacks is superior, and then I'll come
  45. 1:22back to you."
  46. 1:24>> Perfect, Google.
  47. 1:26Can you hear me or
  48. 1:27the mic
  49. 1:28>> Yes. Yes, we can hear you now. Perfect.
  50. 1:30Sounds crisp.
  51. 1:32>> All right, perfect. Perfect.
  52. 1:34>> Cool. And do you have a you have a
  53. 1:35camera as well?
  54. 1:37>> Yep. I I just don't want my face on the
  55. 1:40internet, that's all.
  56. 1:42>> Oh, okay. Well, you challenged me to a
  57. 1:44debate, so I was hoping I'd be able to
  58. 1:46interact face-to-face with the person
  59. 1:48I'm having a discussion with.
  60. 1:51>> And
  61. 1:51>> That is That is one of our rules.
  62. 1:54>> Before we start, I'm going to need you
  63. 1:55to look at my jaw line for 20 minutes.
  64. 1:59>> But I I don't want my face to be on
  65. 2:01there cuz like bro, there's people in
  66. 2:02school, bro. You know what I mean?
  67. 2:04Like you guys are pretty famous. Like
  68. 2:0640,000 subscribers, I think people in my
  69. 2:09school could see us.
  70. 2:11>> Well, I mean is the position that you're
  71. 2:13defending socially contentious? Cuz I
  72. 2:15would think that you'd be able to score
  73. 2:16some sort of social status by appealing
  74. 2:19to the grievances of Africans, no?
  75. 2:23>> Uh
  76. 2:24Can Can you simplify what you just said?
  77. 2:26>> Yes, you are pro-black and that's
  78. 2:29popular.
  79. 2:29>> Yeah.
  80. 2:30>> No one's going to care.
  81. 2:33In fact, you should probably be
  82. 2:34celebrated, especially if you're at a
  83. 2:36mainstream
  84. 2:38university.
  85. 2:39>> 100% now.
  86. 2:41100% [clears throat]
  87. 2:42>> Okay. I I mean we'll we'll do the same
  88. 2:45thing that we always do, which is
  89. 2:46graciously concede to the inability of
  90. 2:49people to actually meet our
  91. 2:50requirements. I guess I didn't specify
  92. 2:53that we would need a camera on. So for
  93. 2:54now, we'll make an exception. That's
  94. 2:56fine. We'll keep it relatively concise.
  95. 2:58Um
  96. 3:00>> You reached out challenging to debate me
  97. 3:03and I asked you for prompts and you gave
  98. 3:05me two, one of which was blacks are
  99. 3:08morally superior, to which I asked you
  100. 3:10what your standard of morality was.
  101. 3:12And then you just said it's, you know,
  102. 3:14people treating each other fairly and
  103. 3:16with understanding, which is subjective
  104. 3:18and frankly doesn't really mean
  105. 3:19anything. But if you want to use a sort
  106. 3:21of vague standard of fairness, we can
  107. 3:22talk about it. And then the second one
  108. 3:24is that African people haven't been
  109. 3:27treated fairly throughout history. So
  110. 3:30I can start by just pointing out that
  111. 3:34the premise of your prompts isn't
  112. 3:36something that I accept. I don't think
  113. 3:40that history can be
  114. 3:41>> Why don't Why don't you accept that
  115. 3:42people need a need a like have a fair
  116. 3:45society?
  117. 3:46Why don't you accept that?
  118. 3:48>> Um it Well, that's not really what your
  119. 3:50prompt is. I Cuz here's the thing,
  120. 3:51you're talking about history, and I
  121. 3:53don't think that history can be viewed
  122. 3:56through a lens of what we now
  123. 3:59subjectively consider fairness. For The
  124. 4:02first reason is because you and I
  125. 4:04perhaps have different conceptions of
  126. 4:06what fairness even means, which is why I
  127. 4:08asked you to clarify your moral standard
  128. 4:11for that claim, but also because history
  129. 4:13>> I believe fairness is What I believe
  130. 4:15fairness is is that you don't look
  131. 4:17through a person through a skin color or
  132. 4:19whatever you You just look at that
  133. 4:20person based on what he does. And you
  134. 4:22treat and you treat them accordingly.
  135. 4:24Like if a person doesn't harm you in any
  136. 4:26way and doesn't bother you, you should
  137. 4:29you should do the same thing. But yeah,
  138. 4:31that's what I believe. An eye for an
  139. 4:33eye, basically. [clears throat]
  140. 4:34>> Yeah, I don't think skin color has
  141. 4:35anything to do with my worldview. I
  142. 4:37talked about that all the
  143. 4:37>> I think it does. I think it does 100%. I
  144. 4:40think skin color is like
  145. 4:41>> Well, then you don't know anything You
  146. 4:43don't know anything about my worldview
  147. 4:44then, because race is not skin color. I
  148. 4:47don't know if you listened to the
  149. 4:48previous interview that we just had, but
  150. 4:49we sort of went over it then. It's just
  151. 4:51a very unsophisticated
  152. 4:52>> skin color?
  153. 4:53You said race isn't skin color?
  154. 4:55>> Correct.
  155. 4:56>> Uh what do you mean? What do you mean?
  156. 4:58>> It is a physical feature that is often
  157. 5:00indicative of underlying biological
  158. 5:03diversity, but just because you have a
  159. 5:05certain skin color doesn't really mean
  160. 5:07anything. When we're talking about
  161. 5:08races, we're talking about people who
  162. 5:10genetically cluster in certain
  163. 5:13origins, right? So
  164. 5:15If a black So, if a black If a black
  165. 5:18person has vitiligo or some sort of you
  166. 5:20know,
  167. 5:21skin pigmentation disease and they turn
  168. 5:24white, are they no longer black people?
  169. 5:26It's like, no, obviously, all of their
  170. 5:28ancestry is African, so they're still
  171. 5:29black people. So, the skin thing, it's
  172. 5:32really it's really just a rhetorical
  173. 5:34tool that people throw in to confuse the
  174. 5:36conversation, because what it's meant to
  175. 5:38do is it's meant to make what people
  176. 5:40consider racist. When someone's being
  177. 5:42racist, they're characterizing it as
  178. 5:44some sort of irrational hatred of
  179. 5:46someone because they have a darker skin
  180. 5:48tone, which is never what people are
  181. 5:51doing when they're being racist, right?
  182. 5:53We're talking about behaviors that are
  183. 5:55correlated with ancestral and genetic
  184. 5:57populations, so.
  185. 5:59No, it's not really about skin color.
  186. 6:01Skin color like has something vaguely to
  187. 6:04do with it on the surface, but that's
  188. 6:05never really what people are talking
  189. 6:07about, is it?
  190. 6:09>> Okay. So, I I want to bring up my first
  191. 6:11point on on morality between like the
  192. 6:14two races. So, what I believe and what
  193. 6:17I've seen from people is that
  194. 6:20like white people, when when I see like
  195. 6:22a white person commit an evil, it's like
  196. 6:25very disturbing compared to a black
  197. 6:27person. Like I'm not I'm not
  198. 6:29African-American. I'm African, so like
  199. 6:32when I see like an African-American,
  200. 6:34like when they commit violent crimes
  201. 6:36it I'm not saying it's understandable,
  202. 6:38but like you can still sympathize with
  203. 6:41them cuz like like they're poor, they
  204. 6:43don't got no jobs, no money. But then if
  205. 6:46you look at somebody like Jeffrey Dahmer
  206. 6:48or any serial killer, like the way that
  207. 6:50they just like do BS and murder people
  208. 6:53and eat people alive or some BS.
  209. 6:55>> You mean like they do in Africa?
  210. 6:59No, here's the here's the here's the
  211. 7:00thing. First of all, first of all, first
  212. 7:01of all
  213. 7:02>> No, listen, listen, listen. Africans are
  214. 7:05a whole entire type of thing. Like
  215. 7:06there's cannibals in Africa or whatever,
  216. 7:08but I think it's like a more of a need.
  217. 7:11But like white people, when they do
  218. 7:13these type of crimes, it's like kind of
  219. 7:15weird cuz how do you not feel sympathy
  220. 7:17for the for the [ __ ] that you've done?
  221. 7:18Like there's something in their head
  222. 7:20that's not okay. It's like
  223. 7:21>> Well, let's let's let instead of talking
  224. 7:23about specific instances of barbarism on
  225. 7:27either side, we can talk about the
  226. 7:28claims that you
  227. 7:30>> It's like an animal. It's like an
  228. 7:31animal. When an animal eats something,
  229. 7:33it's understandable, but when it's a
  230. 7:35human, when you're when Jeffrey Dahmer,
  231. 7:38like when he
  232. 7:39you've heard about Jeffrey Dahmer,
  233. 7:40right? Like the way he he's accountable.
  234. 7:43>> But hold on, we're we're we're already
  235. 7:44getting off of the point here because
  236. 7:46you made a couple of very specific
  237. 7:48claims, and we're talking about viewing
  238. 7:50history a certain way. And we're looking
  239. 7:52at it through a moral lens. You you
  240. 7:53characterized it characterized this as
  241. 7:55fairness.
  242. 7:57But history isn't documented on the
  243. 7:59basis of who was the most or least fair.
  244. 8:03It's about cultural, industrial,
  245. 8:07political significance. People who made
  246. 8:09history are remembered because they were
  247. 8:11consequential. And this can be good or
  248. 8:14this can be bad like a Jeffrey Dahmer or
  249. 8:16something like that. But usually, it's
  250. 8:18because they contributed something or
  251. 8:19did something meaningful and lasting.
  252. 8:22History is characterized as a constant
  253. 8:26battle for scarce resources and
  254. 8:28societies rising and falling.
  255. 8:31And it I'm sorry?
  256. 8:33>> Who wrote history?
  257. 8:35Wasn't it your people?
  258. 8:36So how can how can we How can we as a
  259. 8:39people
  260. 8:40like how can we as a people
  261. 8:42>> So your objection So your objection is
  262. 8:44that history is false because the people
  263. 8:46who recorded it
  264. 8:48>> to me.
  265. 8:48>> Hold on. We're going to address We're
  266. 8:49going to address this because we're not
  267. 8:50going to do We're not going to We're not
  268. 8:52going to be talking over each other the
  269. 8:53whole time. Let's be very specific here.
  270. 8:55I was just trying to give you a
  271. 8:57breakdown of how I analyzed the prompt
  272. 8:59that you asked me to prepare for, which
  273. 9:01I I didn't do.
  274. 9:03>> [snorts]
  275. 9:03>> And I'm telling you about history.
  276. 9:04You're interjecting by saying, "Well,
  277. 9:05how can I appeal to history? Because the
  278. 9:08people that documented all the history
  279. 9:10were my people, white people. So history
  280. 9:12is filtered through a lens of white
  281. 9:14supremacy. Therefore, it's corrupted and
  282. 9:16therefore, we can't appeal to it as
  283. 9:17being accurate." Which okay, if that is
  284. 9:20the case, then how do you know that
  285. 9:22Africans were unfairly treated? Because
  286. 9:25the only unfair treatment of Africans
  287. 9:27that we have historically recorded must
  288. 9:29be necessarily recorded by the same
  289. 9:31people who recorded all of history,
  290. 9:33right?
  291. 9:34>> Easy. Easy Look, if if the reason why we
  292. 9:38know Africa is unfairly treated, bro,
  293. 9:40when we go to Africa, it's it's complete
  294. 9:42BS. That's why That's why my parents
  295. 9:44like moved here in their 20s. That's why
  296. 9:46they moved here cuz like Africa was a
  297. 9:48bad, terrible place. Politicians were
  298. 9:50bad. The leaders were bad. They were all
  299. 9:53They The leaders just used the money
  300. 9:55from the West for themselves and their
  301. 9:57family. They didn't care about the
  302. 9:59people and and a lot of it has to go
  303. 10:01back to Europe. Like a lot of these
  304. 10:03Western countries, like they they they
  305. 10:05like say, "Oh, we don't want immigrants
  306. 10:07here. We don't want Bro, like it's your
  307. 10:09responsibility to to take care of these
  308. 10:11immigrants cuz you're the reason why
  309. 10:13they're in this situation. If Africans
  310. 10:14and the Europeans traded, like let's say
  311. 10:16we give them resources, they give us
  312. 10:18technology, I think it would have been a
  313. 10:20perfect world right there. Cuz we have
  314. 10:22resources, they have technology. And if
  315. 10:24we combine our our our our our
  316. 10:28intelligence together, we could make a
  317. 10:30better society. But you guys just wanted
  318. 10:32everything. You guys wanted the
  319. 10:33resources for yourself, didn't share.
  320. 10:36And now you're going to
  321. 10:37>> the main Is the main grievance
  322. 10:38colonialism? Is that kind of what you're
  323. 10:40referring to?
  324. 10:42>> Yeah. Yeah, colonialism.
  325. 10:43>> So, the only way that you can utilize
  326. 10:45colonialism to moralize against white
  327. 10:47people is to pretend as if blacks had
  328. 10:50possessed the abilities and technology
  329. 10:53of the Europeans, that they wouldn't
  330. 10:55have done the very same thing, if not
  331. 10:57worse.
  332. 10:58>> Forget it.
  333. 10:58>> And this would be Hold on. Hold on. This
  334. 11:00would This is complete cope and it's
  335. 11:02dishonest because we've actually done
  336. 11:04the experiment already. We brought
  337. 11:07slaves here from Western and Central
  338. 11:09Africa hundreds of years ago, used them
  339. 11:12for free labor, and then later abolished
  340. 11:14it legally.
  341. 11:16Then we gave the freed Africans rights
  342. 11:19and attempted to integrate them into our
  343. 11:20society. And this includes voting
  344. 11:22rights, property rights, everything that
  345. 11:24they never would have possibly conceived
  346. 11:26of on their own, including documenting
  347. 11:28history, by the way. They didn't have a
  348. 11:29written language by the time the
  349. 11:30Europeans got there. We gave them Hold
  350. 11:33on. We gave them access to every single
  351. 11:36one of these technologies, all the
  352. 11:37amenities that we created and invented,
  353. 11:40and with access to all the same features
  354. 11:42of Western civilization, Africans, they
  355. 11:45chose, with all of those abundant
  356. 11:48resources, to contribute less and commit
  357. 11:51disproportionate amounts of crime. So, I
  358. 11:52would say that they were given a
  359. 11:55plethora of opportunities and still act
  360. 11:59the least fair by your very standards.
  361. 12:02So, let's use this ambiguous standard of
  362. 12:05fairness. From your point of view,
  363. 12:07right? Would it have been more fair to
  364. 12:11do what we already did? And that's bring
  365. 12:13Africans here, free them from slavery
  366. 12:15later on, and then give them rights,
  367. 12:18only for them to tarnish it with with
  368. 12:19their opportunity. Or
  369. 12:22to never have purchased them to begin
  370. 12:24with and allowed them to stay in Africa,
  371. 12:26where they would continue to be enslaved
  372. 12:28in worse conditions by their own people?
  373. 12:32Which would be more Which would be more
  374. 12:33or less fair?
  375. 12:35>> I I want to make a difference between
  376. 12:37slavery in in Africa and slavery in
  377. 12:39America. Okay, slavery in America, it
  378. 12:42was it was it was basically BS. But in
  379. 12:44Africa, it was a little better cuz you
  380. 12:47could see your family. And basically,
  381. 12:49like there was there was a time limit,
  382. 12:51basically. Like maybe you would work for
  383. 12:535 years for a slave for a slave master.
  384. 12:56You'd go to your family, and it was
  385. 12:58basically like
  386. 12:59like if you had debt and you had and
  387. 13:01they turned you into a slave in Africa,
  388. 13:04uh and if you paid off your debt by the
  389. 13:06labor that you did, then you go and all
  390. 13:08that. But
  391. 13:09>> So, it would have it would have been
  392. 13:11So, so it would have been better
  393. 13:14>> For America, it was unfair, bro. Like
  394. 13:16y'all treated the African-Americans
  395. 13:17terrible, man. Like you killed them, you
  396. 13:19fed them to alligators, you did all
  397. 13:22this. And And now, like I can't I can't
  398. 13:24believe these people have have the balls
  399. 13:27to like go up and speak about moral
  400. 13:29stuff. Like bro, you don't belong there,
  401. 13:31bro. Like you guys you guys seem pretty
  402. 13:34evil to me, bro. I'm not going to lie.
  403. 13:36>> I think this demonstrates the nature of
  404. 13:38how irreconcilable our interactions with
  405. 13:41blacks and other non-white groups are
  406. 13:43because this is just a a historic
  407. 13:45reading of history. Black people in
  408. 13:47America were treated better than they
  409. 13:50were treated by their own people than
  410. 13:51they were treated in Britain.
  411. 13:53>> Give me proof. Give me proof. Give me
  412. 13:54proof.
  413. 13:55>> Hold on. Hold on.
  414. 13:55>> Hold on. Hold on.
  415. 13:56>> Because because black people went on to
  416. 13:59accumulate civil rights and experiences
  417. 14:02in a first world country that they could
  418. 14:04have never been afforded in their own
  419. 14:05countries. Yet they have the audacity to
  420. 14:08use those rights to morally grandstand
  421. 14:10against white people which only
  422. 14:13demonstrates a supreme lack of
  423. 14:15self-awareness. So this whole like
  424. 14:17comparison analysis about slavery, if
  425. 14:20you were a slave at that time who is
  426. 14:22being transported through the
  427. 14:23transatlantic slave trade, the place you
  428. 14:25would want to go to is America. Not
  429. 14:28Brazil, not the Arabs, not the
  430. 14:29Portuguese. It would be America. One
  431. 14:32because the treatment was better. I'm
  432. 14:33not saying it was good, but it was
  433. 14:35better, especially better than how they
  434. 14:37you know they were being treated by
  435. 14:38their own people like the Dahomey tribe.
  436. 14:40People were cannibalizing other African
  437. 14:42tribes. They were doing rituals like
  438. 14:44human sacrifices for generations before
  439. 14:46European people ever arrived. So the
  440. 14:48whole moral grandstanding thing just
  441. 14:50doesn't work. And I would ask you this.
  442. 14:53On the [snorts] notion of colonization,
  443. 14:55if you want to grandstand and blame
  444. 14:57white people for everything, how come
  445. 14:59sub-Saharan Africans inhabited, you
  446. 15:02know, the continent of Africa for
  447. 15:03thousands of years before they had these
  448. 15:06extensive interactions with Europeans,
  449. 15:08yet they never built civilizations that
  450. 15:10were as impressive as the Europeans?
  451. 15:12>> As impressive? Well, first things first,
  452. 15:16I would say
  453. 15:17the Europeans like I studied the
  454. 15:19medieval times and what I've heard it
  455. 15:21was like like there were there were a
  456. 15:23lot of diseases and and whatnot and like
  457. 15:26the Europeans most of them were
  458. 15:27peasants. I mean some some Europeans
  459. 15:30were conquerors or whatever.
  460. 15:32But I think for Africa like for Africans
  461. 15:35life in Africa was pretty simple.
  462. 15:37Basically food, sleep. That's what I've
  463. 15:39learned. Like food, eat, sleep. Like
  464. 15:41like for you guys you had all this
  465. 15:43disease or whatever. And you guys were
  466. 15:45dying. You guys were like peasants or
  467. 15:49whatever. But for Africa
  468. 15:51like
  469. 15:52life was simple like they didn't have to
  470. 15:55go through that hardship. And I think
  471. 15:56the the main reason why the Europeans
  472. 15:58like evolved to the
  473. 16:01to the civilization that they were cuz
  474. 16:03they had to. Like they like they were
  475. 16:05tired of being peasants or whatnot and
  476. 16:07wanted resources, wanted manpower,
  477. 16:10wanted whatever. That's why I think they
  478. 16:12became what they became. But for
  479. 16:13Africans
  480. 16:15they they just life was simple, you
  481. 16:17know.
  482. 16:18>> They were they were plagued with
  483. 16:19tropical diseases and cannibalizing each
  484. 16:22other. And in some places like Senegal
  485. 16:23before the French arrived had an average
  486. 16:25life expectancy of like 25. So to
  487. 16:28pretend as if they were living a more
  488. 16:29fulfilled lifestyle
  489. 16:31>> All right, who
  490. 16:32>> evidence to suggest any of that.
  491. 16:34>> Who had a better who had a more simpler
  492. 16:36life in the medieval times? An average
  493. 16:38an average white person or
  494. 16:40>> Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. First
  495. 16:41of all, you haven't addressed either of
  496. 16:43our questions and we're already
  497. 16:44deviating from the topic of morality. So
  498. 16:48if you want to talk about racial
  499. 16:49morality, let's do it very specifically.
  500. 16:51And I don't know if you know this, but
  501. 16:53slavery does continue to exist in many
  502. 16:56parts of the world today. None of which
  503. 16:58are white countries. And the only reason
  504. 17:01that slavery was abolished in most of
  505. 17:03western and central Africa is because
  506. 17:06colonial powers put international
  507. 17:08pressure on them to do so. So in reality
  508. 17:11without the white man, you wouldn't have
  509. 17:14access to anything that you have access
  510. 17:16to now, and you may even be a slave had
  511. 17:20we not helped you rid your entire
  512. 17:21continent of it. So, what do you have to
  513. 17:23say to that?
  514. 17:24>> you're you're acting like the the white
  515. 17:26man created every invention. Like if we
  516. 17:29look at the Middle East and Africa,
  517. 17:31we've had some inventions, too. Don't
  518. 17:33lie.
  519. 17:33>> I I said nothing about inventions. I
  520. 17:35said abolishing slavery. Can you address
  521. 17:37what I just said?
  522. 17:38>> I have I have one question that I
  523. 17:40>> just I just said something to you very
  524. 17:42specific. I would I would appreciate it
  525. 17:43if you would just stay on topic.
  526. 17:46Can you respond to what I just said to
  527. 17:47you?
  528. 17:49>> Uh what did you say?
  529. 17:50>> The only reason why you are not a slave
  530. 17:53is very likely because white
  531. 17:54colonialists occupied Central and
  532. 17:57Western Africa and put international
  533. 17:59pressure on them to abolish them. It was
  534. 18:01really evangelical Christians which
  535. 18:03abolished slavery throughout most of
  536. 18:05planet Earth. So, anywhere you go in a
  537. 18:08predominantly white nation, slavery's
  538. 18:10against the law there. So, when we're
  539. 18:12talking about racial morality, which
  540. 18:15race is more likely to be upholding
  541. 18:16moral standards? the ones who still
  542. 18:18practice slavery, or is it the ones who
  543. 18:20made it the purpose of the law to
  544. 18:22abolish it everywhere on Earth?
  545. 18:25>> I mean, if you look at Napoleon, when he
  546. 18:28when he became emperor or whatever, like
  547. 18:31France
  548. 18:32uh banned slavery, but then he brought
  549. 18:33it back. So, I don't think you guys are
  550. 18:36still
  551. 18:36>> do with my question? What does this have
  552. 18:38to do with my question? I understand
  553. 18:39that white people practiced slavery.
  554. 18:41>> not talking about America. I'm talking
  555. 18:43about Napoleon.
  556. 18:44>> Napoleon.
  557. 18:46>> Yeah.
  558. 18:47>> That has nothing to do with my question.
  559. 18:48I'm asking if we're looking at in terms
  560. 18:50of moral significance, who made the best
  561. 18:53moral contributions to the world?
  562. 18:56Would it be Africans, or would it be
  563. 18:58white people?
  564. 18:59>> Brother, the Africans were victims. It
  565. 19:02didn't matter what you did. If you if
  566. 19:04you made slavery, or you abolished it,
  567. 19:06it didn't matter cuz at the end of the
  568. 19:07day, these Africans were victims, man.
  569. 19:11These Africans that were brought
  570. 19:12[clears throat] from Africa or whatever,
  571. 19:14they were victims. And no matter what
  572. 19:15you did, you you're still in the wrong.
  573. 19:18You brought them in the first place. And
  574. 19:20now it's you could you could say it was
  575. 19:22an act of mercy, but then at the end of
  576. 19:23the day when you stand against God
  577. 19:26>> The African slave owners were the
  578. 19:28African slave owners victims or just the
  579. 19:31Africans that were owned by the other
  580. 19:33Africans?
  581. 19:35>> No, no, I'm talking about like the
  582. 19:36African-American like the Africans that
  583. 19:38were
  584. 19:38>> Okay, but I'm talking Yeah, well, how
  585. 19:38did they get here? Through the
  586. 19:39transatlantic slave trade. Okay, so how
  587. 19:41did that happen? We purchased them from
  588. 19:43African slave owners. So were the
  589. 19:45African slave owners also victims or was
  590. 19:48it just the people that they owned who
  591. 19:49were also African?
  592. 19:52>> Why Why buy them in the first place?
  593. 19:54>> That is not the question.
  594. 19:56That is not the question. We're talking
  595. 19:58about morality. We're talking about
  596. 20:00victimhood. You're saying that they were
  597. 20:01victims. Which ones were victims? The
  598. 20:03people who owned the slaves or the
  599. 20:05people who just were the slaves?
  600. 20:10>> I would say it's probably both. I would
  601. 20:12say it's probably both.
  602. 20:13>> So the the the master and the slave are
  603. 20:16both the victim then?
  604. 20:18>> Like the black slave maybe cuz look,
  605. 20:21imagine these people come with with
  606. 20:23[ __ ] guns or whatever and say, "Hey,
  607. 20:25we want all the slaves or whatever."
  608. 20:27Like you're going to have to do
  609. 20:29something, you know?
  610. 20:32Like you're going to have to sell your
  611. 20:33own people, I guess, but we'll never
  612. 20:34know, man. We'll never know what
  613. 20:36happened.
  614. 20:37>> All right, I mean, I don't think I don't
  615. 20:38I don't I don't think we're really going
  616. 20:39to get anywhere here, unfortunately.
  617. 20:42>> can try we can try this. So the very
  618. 20:44original point that you were trying to
  619. 20:46make before we got into the debate about
  620. 20:48morality was that
  621. 20:50a claim about brutality and violence
  622. 20:54being unique to white people in America
  623. 20:57and you cited Jeffrey Dahmer.
  624. 20:59Other than Jeffrey Dahmer, is there any
  625. 21:01other evidence that you have to support
  626. 21:03that?
  627. 21:04>> I mean, look at all the famous serial
  628. 21:06killers we have. Ted Bundy,
  629. 21:09there's this clown killer,
  630. 21:11there's this one other guy
  631. 21:13that wore face masks of people that
  632. 21:15killed his own mom, which is crazy.
  633. 21:18And it's just a lot, you know, it's like
  634. 21:21it's like they're racist, they're
  635. 21:22murderers, they're I don't I don't even
  636. 21:24know. They're the ones that control the
  637. 21:25world, man.
  638. 21:26Like they're
  639. 21:27control the world. Well, there it is.
  640. 21:29There's the answer right there. They're
  641. 21:30the ones that control the world. You can
  642. 21:32get away with so much [ __ ] when you
  643. 21:34control the world.
  644. 21:36So here's here's what I was saying. I
  645. 21:37mean white people control the world for
  646. 21:39a very specific reason. So even though
  647. 21:41all of the available data, which is
  648. 21:43skewed against white people, still shows
  649. 21:45that they're underrepresented in these
  650. 21:47types of crimes compared to blacks, all
  651. 21:49this proves is that Hold on. All this
  652. 21:51proves is that in the end, when white
  653. 21:53people do commit crime, it's more
  654. 21:55impressive.
  655. 21:57That's why all of the most notorious
  656. 21:58serial killers have been white people.
  657. 22:00It's because when white people do bad
  658. 22:02things, it's more complex and
  659. 22:04impressive. Wait, I I just You said You
  660. 22:06said all these studies were against
  661. 22:08white people. Don't you guys make the
  662. 22:10Don't Don't you guys make the study?
  663. 22:13>> [laughter]
  664. 22:13>> Don't you guys Individuals don't make
  665. 22:15studies on criminality. They're
  666. 22:17collected by agencies. You guys control
  667. 22:19the media, bro.
  668. 22:20It's the white control the media, bro.
  669. 22:23Right?
  670. 22:24Okay. Are we going to the thing now?
  671. 22:27If if that's the case If that's the If
  672. 22:29that's the case, if you're if you're
  673. 22:31forfeiting your agency and saying that
  674. 22:33another group controls everything, and
  675. 22:35you can't trust any data, then how can
  676. 22:37you ascertain that white people commit
  677. 22:39more violent crime?
  678. 22:41No. No, you guys don't like
  679. 22:44I mean like per person, but you guys
  680. 22:46when you guys do commit crimes, it's
  681. 22:48it's disturbing. That's why Hold on. I I
  682. 22:49want you to I want you to address this,
  683. 22:51and I just don't think you're
  684. 22:51understanding it, cuz I brought this up
  685. 22:53to you earlier. But what he just said is
  686. 22:54something very specific. What you're
  687. 22:56saying is that any available information
  688. 22:59that my brother and I can appeal to to
  689. 23:01justify our argument is tainted by the
  690. 23:05control apparatus that exists. White
  691. 23:07people control everything. Therefore,
  692. 23:09the studies are false, right? So, then
  693. 23:13what available data can you possibly
  694. 23:15pull from to justify your claims?
  695. 23:19>> Well, I'm not saying they're false. I'm
  696. 23:20just saying you can't fully trust them.
  697. 23:24>> Then what are you trusting to What are
  698. 23:26you trusting? What are you placing trust
  699. 23:28in to come to these conclusions?
  700. 23:32>> I mean, I just I just trust for me,
  701. 23:34personally, I just trust what I feel
  702. 23:36like is right. Like from what I've seen
  703. 23:38and the experiences that I've gone
  704. 23:39through in my life, like that's what I
  705. 23:41When I see when I see stuff, yeah.
  706. 23:44>> So, you trust whatever you feel, which
  707. 23:46is characteristic of I suppose Africa.
  708. 23:51>> I mean, if if you're going to say that,
  709. 23:52then I guess, man, but
  710. 23:54>> Those are your words, not mine.
  711. 23:57>> Yep, if you put it that way, then yeah.
  712. 23:59I just trust what I feel, man.
  713. 24:03>> Okay. Well, I'm Well, I'm not convinced,
  714. 24:05but I mean
  715. 24:08I'll go ahead and I guess we're there to
  716. 24:09discuss.
  717. 24:13>> I mean, wait, let me let me check the
  718. 24:15DMs real quick.
  719. 24:18>> You You said blacks morally superior and
  720. 24:20blacks haven't been treated fairly
  721. 24:21throughout history, and you said you
  722. 24:23wrote a bunch of notes.
  723. 24:24Yo, what is your case for the moral
  724. 24:26superiority of black people? Because a
  725. 24:28lot of black people make these
  726. 24:30accusations, but what is your claim that
  727. 24:32you want to substantiate? What is the
  728. 24:34actual argument for black moral
  729. 24:36superiority?
  730. 24:38>> Well, when I see when I see a black
  731. 24:41person be kind, it's very different to
  732. 24:43when a white person's being kind. So,
  733. 24:45when a black person is kind,
  734. 24:47I feel like it's more sincere, you know?
  735. 24:50I feel like it's way more authentic and
  736. 24:52better.
  737. 24:53But when a white person like there there
  738. 24:56is there's this one white lady. Like
  739. 24:58she's my neighbor.
  740. 25:00And I just don't trust her, man. I just
  741. 25:02don't trust her.
  742. 25:03I don't know. Like I just don't trust
  743. 25:05her, bro. Like bro, when she looks at
  744. 25:07me, bro, it's just it's just these eyes
  745. 25:09of disgust, bro. Like she does not like
  746. 25:11black people.
  747. 25:12>> So, black people as a race are morally
  748. 25:15superior because you don't anecdotally
  749. 25:17trust your white neighbor.
  750. 25:20>> No, no, it's the other way around if you
  751. 25:21think about it. It's the other way
  752. 25:23around. Like they don't trust like black
  753. 25:25people.
  754. 25:26So, that's what I feel, you know. That's
  755. 25:28what I think.
  756. 25:29>> you're focusing on that detail, though.
  757. 25:31But how are you proving that black
  758. 25:33people are morally superior?
  759. 25:36>> I do like the the way like black
  760. 25:39kindness is way more meaningful cuz
  761. 25:42there's no point to be I mean imagine
  762. 25:44being kind in a world where you're
  763. 25:45basically like treated like
  764. 25:47you're treated like this, you're treated
  765. 25:49like that, but you still go out of your
  766. 25:50way to be kind. That that's really
  767. 25:53impressive, especially in a in a society
  768. 25:55that's against you, you know. And I feel
  769. 25:57like
  770. 25:59>> Well, black Americans are the most well
  771. 26:01taken care of, well fed, well medicated
  772. 26:04blacks in the history of sub-Saharan
  773. 26:06Africans. So,
  774. 26:10>> Yeah, I guess.
  775. 26:11I mean they
  776. 26:13No, no,
  777. 26:13no,
  778. 26:14we make they make they make the the
  779. 26:17least amount of money,
  780. 26:19don't they?
  781. 26:20>> They're better off here than they are in
  782. 26:22their own homelands. So, to say that to
  783. 26:24to characterize the dynamic that black
  784. 26:26people are just for no reason that we
  785. 26:29can really explain just being treated
  786. 26:31horribly at the hands of this mysterious
  787. 26:34cabal of white supremacists. I mean,
  788. 26:35what is actually the explanation for
  789. 26:38that? Other than just blaming white
  790. 26:40people.
  791. 26:41>> Well, I have a question. Do Do you guys
  792. 26:44think like white people are better
  793. 26:45people like morally than than black
  794. 26:47people or
  795. 26:49>> Are you answering my That
  796. 26:51>> No, I'm just I'm just curious to to know
  797. 26:53what you guys know cuz I'm trying to
  798. 26:54debate y'all and I'm trying to see like
  799. 26:56where you where you guys are at.
  800. 26:58I I know you guys know white
  801. 27:00nationalists or white people.
  802. 27:01>> Well, hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on
  803. 27:02a second. You're asking a lot of
  804. 27:03questions for someone who got into my
  805. 27:05DMs and criticized me for having a
  806. 27:07faulty worldview. You said my ideology
  807. 27:10is easily debunked.
  808. 27:11>> Yeah. Yeah, you do.
  809. 27:12>> So, it's like you don't even know you
  810. 27:14don't even know what we believe and now
  811. 27:16you're asking us
  812. 27:17>> a good question. That's a good question.
  813. 27:19You made that claim. Explain to us what
  814. 27:21you think our worldview is.
  815. 27:24>> From what I could tell, I think you guys
  816. 27:26prefer your own people. That's That's
  817. 27:29what I could see.
  818. 27:30>> That's correct.
  819. 27:30>> think you guys are white nationalists.
  820. 27:32>> Do you not prefer your own people?
  821. 27:35>> Do I care for my own people? Yeah.
  822. 27:37>> Do you not prefer your own people?
  823. 27:40>> Do I Do I not prefer my own people? I
  824. 27:42mean, mostly, but it really depends on
  825. 27:44the person. You know, there are there
  826. 27:45are good white people, bad white people,
  827. 27:48>> If you generally prefer your own people
  828. 27:51and we do, too, that means we have the
  829. 27:52same worldview.
  830. 27:54It's just that when white people do it,
  831. 27:56everybody gets freaked out about it.
  832. 28:00>> I mean,
  833. 28:02they do have a point when they're like
  834. 28:04like when you guys are like this, it's
  835. 28:06like
  836. 28:07like you guys have done so much damage,
  837. 28:10but you guys don't want to help help
  838. 28:12other people.
  839. 28:13And don't You guys I would say like the
  840. 28:16white people did the bare minimum. Like
  841. 28:18they didn't do anything great or
  842. 28:20whatever to redeem themselves.
  843. 28:21>> that your presence in this country,
  844. 28:23someone who literally identifies as an
  845. 28:25African, not even a hyphenated
  846. 28:28African-American, your presence in this
  847. 28:30country, your utilization of the
  848. 28:32technology
  849. 28:34the the utilization of the very
  850. 28:36technology you're using right now is
  851. 28:37contingent upon white people having A
  852. 28:39created it and then B allowing you
  853. 28:42rights to utilize it. So, what are you
  854. 28:44talking about? The lack of
  855. 28:45self-awareness here is absolutely
  856. 28:47unbelievable. You're saying, "We've done
  857. 28:48the bare minimum."
  858. 28:50>> rights?
  859. 28:51Who fought for those rights?
  860. 28:53>> Who fought for the rights of what? Black
  861. 28:55people? White people? Black people
  862. 28:57didn't even fight for their own rights.
  863. 28:59White people fought for the rights of
  864. 29:01black people.
  865. 29:03MLK is a CIA plant.
  866. 29:07White people
  867. 29:09>> What?
  868. 29:09>> White people afforded equal rights to
  869. 29:12black people, just like they afforded
  870. 29:14equal rights to women.
  871. 29:17Women suffragettes, they didn't earn the
  872. 29:19right to vote. Black people didn't earn
  873. 29:21civil rights. White people gave it to
  874. 29:24them.
  875. 29:25And the only reason why they still have
  876. 29:26it is because white people have
  877. 29:28maintained that to their own detriment.
  878. 29:30And now you have the audacity to come
  879. 29:32here, criticize me,
  880. 29:34you know, bring me into into this
  881. 29:35conversation, and try to say that my
  882. 29:37people are somehow morally inferior, and
  883. 29:39I have to defend the the opposing
  884. 29:41position. It's it's completely
  885. 29:43ridiculous, and you have no evidence to
  886. 29:45base your claim on.
  887. 29:46>> brother brother brother.
  888. 29:48What I believe is you guys, from what
  889. 29:51I've seen from history and what you guys
  890. 29:53the sins that your ancestors have done
  891. 29:55>> False history.
  892. 29:56>> guys are just terrible people, man. It's
  893. 29:58not It's not simple.
  894. 29:59>> Well, you're saying the history is false
  895. 30:01though because it's written by white
  896. 30:02people. So, how are you appealing to
  897. 30:04that? I don't understand.
  898. 30:06>> Because we have evidence of what you
  899. 30:08guys have done. Stories from people like
  900. 30:11Look, I have a friend that's
  901. 30:12African-American. Like his grandmother
  902. 30:15like her dad has gone through some
  903. 30:17terrible terrible stuff. And look at
  904. 30:20Africa, it's in crumbles cuz of you
  905. 30:22guys.
  906. 30:22So, I think I think the slavery and like
  907. 30:24the the the the massacre and the
  908. 30:28the the complete BS you guys did in
  909. 30:30Africa, like it's true, but not not
  910. 30:32everything you guys write is 100% true.
  911. 30:35>> You are the equivalent of a goldfish in
  912. 30:37a fish bowl, and you're in a fish bowl,
  913. 30:39and you're swimming around, and you're
  914. 30:41saying, "Where is the water at? I don't
  915. 30:43know where the water is."
  916. 30:46>> Just think of the history books as like
  917. 30:48the Bible. Like there were people that
  918. 30:51came, wrote it, did that, changed stuff,
  919. 30:53put it in, put stuff in, you know? It's
  920. 30:56not It's not 100%
  921. 30:57>> Is your Is your entire world view is
  922. 30:59just based off of your own anecdotal
  923. 31:01experience?
  924. 31:03>> I mean, that's how we That's how we I
  925. 31:05mean, isn't that everybody's way? Like
  926. 31:07we experience stuff, we see stuff with
  927. 31:09our own eyes, and then we make up our
  928. 31:11world view, yeah?
  929. 31:13Am I right or am I wrong?
  930. 31:15Cuz at the end of the day, I'm not a
  931. 31:17robot. I'm I'm a human being, you know?
  932. 31:19Like I see stuff and
  933. 31:21>> Yeah, but if you only if you only
  934. 31:22utilize information that you consumed
  935. 31:25with your own personal sense data,
  936. 31:27anecdotal, then you would have a very
  937. 31:30narrow world view.
  938. 31:32You know, there's like things called
  939. 31:33books. You can read books. You can read
  940. 31:34articles. You can watch documentaries
  941. 31:36and videos. And that can expand
  942. 31:38>> That's my point.
  943. 31:40>> But but but again,
  944. 31:42but again, you're appealing to something
  945. 31:44that you can no longer appeal to if you
  946. 31:47call it false. So, when you're saying
  947. 31:50that the history of Africans and
  948. 31:53colonialism is the moral inferiority of
  949. 31:56white people, then you have no actual
  950. 31:59Hold on.
  951. 32:00I need to be able to say a full
  952. 32:01sentence. You have no actual evidence of
  953. 32:04that because the only available evidence
  954. 32:06that we have are the writings and
  955. 32:07documentations of people who wrote them
  956. 32:10and documented them. So, if you're
  957. 32:12saying they're invalid,
  958. 32:14then how do you know anything that ever
  959. 32:16happened?
  960. 32:17>> pictures, too.
  961. 32:18Don't Don't forget about the pictures,
  962. 32:20man.
  963. 32:20>> Right. So, all of history is false then.
  964. 32:22That's your view.
  965. 32:23>> No, no, no, no. I didn't say it was all
  966. 32:25false. I just said we can't trust
  967. 32:28everything that they say in the history
  968. 32:29books.
  969. 32:30>> Right. So, trust what is convenient for
  970. 32:32you to believe, and then the rest you
  971. 32:33can fill in with your anecdotal beliefs.
  972. 32:38>> I would say just take it with a grain of
  973. 32:40salt. Not everything that they say in
  974. 32:42the history books is 100% correct, bro.
  975. 32:45>> Okay, well
  976. 32:45>> like the Bible
  977. 32:46>> Well, then I I can apply the same logic
  978. 32:48and I could say, "Well, how can you say
  979. 32:50we were morally inferior? You have to
  980. 32:52take it with a grain of salt. They were
  981. 32:53lying about that one part."
  982. 32:56>> How How How were they lying about that?
  983. 32:57You guys wrote it.
  984. 32:59>> You're saying that
  985. 33:00>> Like you guys
  986. 33:01>> You're saying that they were lying.
  987. 33:03That's what you're saying.
  988. 33:05>> No, they I would say they were lying
  989. 33:07about a lot of stuff, but telling the
  990. 33:08truth about some stuff. Like they
  991. 33:10probably lied about the like the same
  992. 33:13Look, look, I Here's what I think.
  993. 33:15Like I think they wrote
  994. 33:17like what barely happened,
  995. 33:19added a few details, and then just
  996. 33:23like stopped the like they didn't write
  997. 33:25the other stuff that happened. That's
  998. 33:27what I think.
  999. 33:28Cuz I feel they did way way way more
  1000. 33:30>> to the How did you get into my country?
  1001. 33:34>> How did I get? My parents came here in
  1002. 33:36in their 20s.
  1003. 33:38>> Okay. And what do you What are you doing
  1004. 33:40here?
  1005. 33:42>> What am I doing here?
  1006. 33:43>> Mhm.
  1007. 33:43>> In the Discord call or in America? Well,
  1008. 33:45I was born here, man.
  1009. 33:47>> I was born in the United States of
  1010. 33:49America, man.
  1011. 33:50>> Okay, are you an American?
  1012. 33:52>> Am I an American?
  1013. 33:53>> Mhm.
  1014. 33:55>> Well, my nationality
  1015. 33:57my passport it says American.
  1016. 33:59>> What does that mean?
  1017. 34:00Are you an American?
  1018. 34:01>> blood
  1019. 34:02my DNA, my blood is from Africa.
  1020. 34:05>> Then why aren't you there?
  1021. 34:08>> Cuz I was born here cuz my parents
  1022. 34:09didn't like Africa.
  1023. 34:10>> Why don't you go back?
  1024. 34:13>> Why would I go back when I'm doing well
  1025. 34:15for myself here?
  1026. 34:16>> Oh, you're doing well for yourself.
  1027. 34:19>> Yeah.
  1028. 34:19>> Well, so white supremacy must not be so
  1029. 34:21bad.
  1030. 34:23>> White supremacy must not be so bad.
  1031. 34:26>> Yeah, it sounds like you're benefiting a
  1032. 34:28lot from white supremacy.
  1033. 34:30>> I I think I think
  1034. 34:32I mean
  1035. 34:36That's a
  1036. 34:37that's tough, man. That's tough.
  1037. 34:39>> It is tough because it's a completely
  1038. 34:41incomprehensible worldview and you've
  1039. 34:43twisted yourself up into knots about it
  1040. 34:45just to justify your own historical
  1041. 34:47shortcomings. And honestly, I don't mean
  1042. 34:50to like be a dick. I don't mean to just
  1043. 34:51rag on you because I just I frankly
  1044. 34:53don't think you're that intelligent and
  1045. 34:55that's not your fault. But the reality
  1046. 34:57is is that you have to apply some
  1047. 34:59self-awareness here because it is
  1048. 35:01completely ridiculous and in the coming
  1049. 35:03years stuff like this is just not going
  1050. 35:05to be acceptable. White people are not
  1051. 35:07going to accept this [ __ ] for long. So,
  1052. 35:09get your [ __ ] act in order.
  1053. 35:11>> sorry?
  1054. 35:12>> Who who said?
  1055. 35:13Who said? Listen Listen to me. You do
  1056. 35:15realize the white people don't Look,
  1057. 35:17there there there are politicians from
  1058. 35:19all around the world. Look, there are
  1059. 35:21Look at Barack Obama. Look at Look at
  1060. 35:23the Republicans. I mean, the the
  1061. 35:25Republicans don't have that many black
  1062. 35:27people, but look at the Democrats. Like
  1063. 35:29if you're going to say if you're going
  1064. 35:30to say like the the white people are
  1065. 35:32going to say no no more rights for Bro,
  1066. 35:34that's that's the ingredients to a civil
  1067. 35:36war, bro. You think You think these
  1068. 35:38these people are going to let that slide
  1069. 35:41after everything I think if if white
  1070. 35:43people get their rights
  1071. 35:45>> it is that you think that you're making
  1072. 35:46right now.
  1073. 35:46>> like a civil war is going to happen,
  1074. 35:48bro.
  1075. 35:49I think you guys are good.
  1076. 35:52>> Like I feel like it's too late now to I
  1077. 35:55mean, if if you guys if you guys sent
  1078. 35:58the Africans back to Africa, maybe y'all
  1079. 36:00would have had a chance, but I think
  1080. 36:01it's too late now.
  1081. 36:03Like we're already in society. You can't
  1082. 36:04do anything. We have
  1083. 36:05>> So, therefore, we should accept our
  1084. 36:07demise. Is that sort of what you're
  1085. 36:09saying? We should then accept our
  1086. 36:10demise.
  1087. 36:14>> I mean, you guys are still controlling
  1088. 36:15the world, man. And that's the sad part.
  1089. 36:17I don't think you guys should cuz you
  1090. 36:19guys are terrible, but
  1091. 36:21it's whatever, man. It's whatever.
  1092. 36:23It's really sad, man.
  1093. 36:25>> Wow.
  1094. 36:26>> I'm I'm frankly very compelled. I'll
  1095. 36:27have to give my worldview some
  1096. 36:29reconsideration. Thank you for sharing
  1097. 36:30all that. Do you have any final thoughts
  1098. 36:31before we let you go?
  1099. 36:35>> I I think I think white supremacy
  1100. 36:38and like white national
  1101. 36:40white nationalism should go. Cuz I feel
  1102. 36:42like these people pray pray on good
  1103. 36:44white people. Like good white people are
  1104. 36:46people that feel guilt for what their
  1105. 36:48people did and are are trying to be
  1106. 36:51better to other races and try to be
  1107. 36:53kinder and try to be more godly. So I
  1108. 36:56feel like white like white supremacists
  1109. 36:58should should leave the country and
  1110. 36:59never come back. That's what I think.
  1111. 37:00But
  1112. 37:01hey, who knows?
  1113. 37:03Hey, that will never happen in our
  1114. 37:04lifetime.
  1115. 37:05That might never happen in our lifetime.
  1116. 37:07>> Your judgment of what makes a white
  1117. 37:09person in your eyes good is one that
  1118. 37:11betrays their own people as long as it
  1119. 37:13benefits
  1120. 37:14>> Betrays? How how do they betray their
  1121. 37:15own people?
  1122. 37:16>> As long as it benefits as long as it
  1123. 37:18benefits your community. So instead of
  1124. 37:21instead of twisting this and trying to
  1125. 37:23make it a moral argument, what you could
  1126. 37:24do is be honest and just say that you
  1127. 37:27hate white people.
  1128. 37:28>> have some sympathy, man. Like have a
  1129. 37:30heart, you know?
  1130. 37:31>> This conversation exists because of the
  1131. 37:34white man's sympathy. And it's not going
  1132. 37:37to last forever.
  1133. 37:37>> sympathy?
  1134. 37:39>> It's not going to last forever.
  1135. 37:40>> That's a crazy way to put it, man.
  1136. 37:41That's a crazy way to put it, man.
  1137. 37:42That is a
  1138. 37:43>> That is a
  1139. 37:44That's just true. That's just true. Like
  1140. 37:46Forest said, this entire dynamic is
  1141. 37:48contingent upon our tolerance and that
  1142. 37:51is finite.
  1143. 37:53And it's not going to last for much
  1144. 37:54longer.
  1145. 37:55>> Listen to me.
  1146. 37:56Like most white people would would
  1147. 37:59disagree with you, man. Like most white
  1148. 38:01people like would
  1149. 38:02>> change anything.
  1150. 38:04>> [laughter]
  1151. 38:04>> Most people across the board would
  1152. 38:06disagree with me. Most people don't
  1153. 38:08believe in anything.
  1154. 38:09>> That's That's why That's why That's why
  1155. 38:11America
  1156. 38:13Cuz if people like you like white
  1157. 38:15supremacists were in power we we would
  1158. 38:17be all [ __ ] man.
  1159. 38:19>> I thought white supremacists are in
  1160. 38:20power.
  1161. 38:23>> I don't think I think
  1162. 38:25>> Who's in power?
  1163. 38:26>> see the white supremacists are in power.
  1164. 38:28>> They can't do anything. They can't do
  1165. 38:29anything, man.
  1166. 38:30>> Who's in power?
  1167. 38:31>> then? Who's in power?
  1168. 38:32Who's in power?
  1169. 38:33>> Trump.
  1170. 38:35>> Okay, who is in power? Which demographic
  1171. 38:37is in power?
  1172. 38:39>> Which demographic is in power?
  1173. 38:41>> Mhm.
  1174. 38:42>> Well, America. The white people, I
  1175. 38:44guess.
  1176. 38:45>> Okay, so white people are in power.
  1177. 38:48>> Okay.
  1178. 38:51>> Does that not just conflict with with
  1179. 38:52what you just said?
  1180. 38:55>> I mean, not completely cuz at the end of
  1181. 38:57day, what makes a country is their
  1182. 38:58workers, they're the people that fight
  1183. 39:00in the wars, and
  1184. 39:02yeah.
  1185. 39:03Like we're we're America is not a race.
  1186. 39:06America America is black, white, Asian,
  1187. 39:08Latino, I don't freaking know.
  1188. 39:10Alien, green, white, purple. America is
  1189. 39:13just America, man.
  1190. 39:14>> But you just said that if white
  1191. 39:16supremacists ran the world, things would
  1192. 39:18be worse. Something to that effect.
  1193. 39:21>> They don't run the world. They they they
  1194. 39:22run the West, but they don't they don't
  1195. 39:24run the world now.
  1196. 39:24>> West is the world. The West is
  1197. 39:27absolutely the world. And by your
  1198. 39:29standards, white supremacists do run the
  1199. 39:32world.
  1200. 39:35>> I mean, yeah, but
  1201. 39:37>> [snorts]
  1202. 39:37>> All right.
  1203. 39:40>> Yeah, if if if white supremacists were
  1204. 39:42in power, man, they would probably want
  1205. 39:43to cleanse the earth, but thank God God
  1206. 39:46is on on our side.
  1207. 39:46>> power, according to you.
  1208. 39:50>> I'm not completely. Not completely.
  1209. 39:52>> Oh.
  1210. 39:53>> Like they're the ones that say what to
  1211. 39:54do. They're the ones that say what to
  1212. 39:56do, but they don't have complete
  1213. 39:57authority.
  1214. 39:58>> Okay.
  1215. 39:58>> You know?
  1216. 39:59>> All right, well, sounds good. Well,
  1217. 40:00listen, man, I really appreciate your
  1218. 40:01time today, and I hope you have an
  1219. 40:02awesome rest of your night. We're going
  1220. 40:03to go ahead and let you go, okay?
  1221. 40:05>> All right, man. You take care, man.
  1222. 40:07>> Yep, take it easy.
  1223. 40:09Yeah, I mean
  1224. 40:11>> Remigration is the logical answer.
  1225. 40:12>> Total remigration. It's they need to go.
  1226. 40:15>> Yes.
  1227. 40:16>> Non-violently, legally.

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