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0:01It was when I had calmed down and I
0:03realized there was these off like there
0:06was beams off of me.
0:09>> So I called
0:10>> when you called
0:11>> because I realized that there was no
0:13reports of it on the scanner.
0:16Okay.
0:18>> I have my
0:20thumb. I wonder if anybody did check on
0:22them. So I'm calming down.
0:25>> Who did you call?
0:27>> What number did you call?
0:29>> I don't know. It was whenever my phone
0:30popped up. Uh, y'all have it recorded.
0:34Look at what number is recorded on
0:36there. So, just the Google one. Um,
0:44anyway, at this point, I've just been
0:47followed by cops and I'm not okay and
0:52I'm going to kill myself. The plan was
0:54to go to Swedish Memorial Hospital in
0:57Seattle, crash into the side of the wall
1:00or something close to it because that's
1:02where one of my closest memories with my
1:04grandma is. So, grandma, Marlene,
1:09my mom, Rosen, Marlene. So, in my head,
1:14okay, we're all
1:16>> So, you mentioned you went into through
1:18the back door when you showed up,
1:20correct?
1:20>> And you went to go check on the kiddos.
1:22>> Yeah. And you saw that was laying down
1:27with the towel over
1:28>> I heard I heard that's why I called the
1:30police. That's why I called the police.
1:33>> So
1:35>> you saw
1:35>> that baby. That baby right there.
1:37>> You saw. Did you ever Did you touch at
1:40all?
1:40>> I TRIED. I TRIED. THAT'S why that's why
1:42I ran is because I went can I can I
1:46went like this and then that's all I
1:51never touched a dead body. Okay.
1:54But I'm not an actual hor
1:58at that point. How did you know was
2:00dead?
2:01>> Cuz she and
2:04I think I have face. You know I'm dead
2:06face when you see when you know your
2:07child's face.
2:10How long did you
2:11>> I don't know.
2:13>> I do know. No, I I saw it. I saw it then
2:20I I
2:22baby I try
2:25and I touch her.
2:28[sighs]
2:30I'm like I have not sensory problems but
2:33I also sensory problem
2:37and that's not it. Did you check dead
2:40body?
2:41>> Did you check?
2:42>> I heard I heard her crying like right
2:44here. She was standing.
2:46>> So you heard crying and you and you
2:48still left
2:50>> because at that point I called the the
2:53thingy right there. I put that in. I
2:55thought I went while I was at my house.
2:57>> So I made the play. I wanted to do that.
2:59But then I saw the lasers on me.
3:02>> So you said nobody was home with nobody
3:04was home.
3:05>> Okay. So what do you think? What? What
3:07do you think would have happened
3:10if she would have stayed there a little
3:11longer and nobody would have found her?
3:13>> That's why I was trying to That's why I
3:14was trying to get that and and then I
3:18had blazers on me. So, I thought you
3:19guys got there and then I was being
3:21pissed for all of this because I just
3:23left without doing anything.
3:26You know what I mean? Like like that
3:29genuinely I I was guilt I felt guilty
3:31like you know what I mean? when I felt
3:33guilty that I had left and I I wanted to
3:36hold my baby. I still
3:51[screaming]
3:52hold my baby. I don't care. I wish I
3:56would have
3:59>> on the way here. I just want to refresh
4:00your memory. On the way here, you asked
4:01me how many victims were there.
4:03>> Yeah, because I at that point I didn't
4:05know because my police scanner wasn't
4:07working fully because I don't have data.
4:09So, I meant Wi-Fi and they have Wi-Fi
4:12the whole time.
4:14>> Did Did you expect Did you expect No,
4:17no, no, no. Cuz I It's okay, right?
4:21>> No. You asked me how many victims there
4:22were.
4:23>> No, no. I at first I started asking
4:28okay, right? And you're like, I don't
4:30know names. He said, you don't have a
4:31name. So I exact, how many victims were
4:33there? He said one. And I immediately
4:36knew it was just because I know that
4:38>> obviously done. And at this point, I I
4:42left them with the sitter for this. That
4:45is murder. That is cohart murdered me.
4:48>> You just told me you didn't know who
4:50>> KK.
4:51>> Yeah. You don't even know where KK
4:53lives.
4:54>> She comes around. She lives with her
4:56different boyfriends right throughout
4:59the day. They never come over, but she
5:01always just like when she's done with
5:03them, we have our little guys blah blah
5:08blah. Then
5:11Deon like
5:12>> tell me a little bit more about KK. I
5:14I'm trying to understand cuz apparently
5:16>> So K's her babysitter watching your
5:18kids. You have information.
5:20>> We were friends for a while before
5:22anything like I would never ask her to
5:24do that. What's her name?
5:26>> Uh, Catherine.
5:27>> Catherine what?
5:28>> So, I don't know the last name. It's
5:30like Mexican. So, I'm sorry, but I'm not
5:33ever going to remember that. I call her
5:34KK. I never expected.
5:36>> How do you get a hold of KK?
5:38>> How would I get a hold of KK? I would
5:40call Cereal next door.
5:42>> Who's cereal?
5:43>> Cereal is the next door neighbor in the
5:44back.
5:46>> So,
5:48>> cereal.
5:49>> My in my apartment. Sorry. I mean, I
5:52>> cereal.
5:52>> Cereal. Now, back apartment. So, I
5:57obviously can't do that at jail cuz they
5:59don't want you through your phone. You
6:01can only go in contact.
6:02>> So, do you have do you have Serio's
6:05phone and KK's number in your phone?
6:07>> KK doesn't have a number. She has an old
6:09number. So, I can't even call that one.
6:12>> How do people get in contact with KK?
6:14>> She walks to them. She like she's like
6:17one of those recovered tweaker ladies
6:19who just kind of like goes. So the whole
6:22reason we bought it,
6:23>> so you entrusted your kids?
6:26>> No, the whole reason we bought it was
6:28because we were having our like nights
6:31together and stuff and we were getting
6:34like not getting better. But I I was
6:36learning things because she had left her
6:39she had adopt like not adopted out her
6:42kids. But um
6:43>> when was the last time you
6:46>> The last time I saw was that day in my
6:49dad When was that?
6:52>> My dad the morning of that right here.
6:57Dad appointment.
6:58>> So dad appointment.
7:00>> That one. McDonald's
7:03doctor.
7:05>> That's the last time you saw.
7:07And who was the doctor?
7:10>> Who was she got home? I laid her down
7:17and everything like it was a cute day.
7:19There's a pretty big day and so she was
7:23probably fine.
7:24>> Last time you saw them alive, what did
7:25the kids look like?
7:27>> I mean, they were sick. They were
7:29snotty, but I think
7:31>> Tell me the condition a little bit more.
7:33>> She she was coughing. She was like
7:38she was get around her eyes right here.
7:41Me and my mom had already commented on
7:43that because that's like mental
7:46concerning. But then I did talk to the
7:47doctor about it and doctor said that
7:49that's fine.
7:50>> What's mucus comes out of your eyes
7:52apparently. I didn't know that. I didn't
7:54know that.
7:58>> And uh
8:03had a cough and a big nose and she would
8:08pick up my
8:11up and
8:15bring that down. And when I got there, I
8:18couldn't didn't look closely, but it
8:20didn't look good. It didn't look good.
8:22That's why I left. That's why I left. I
8:24mean, I I freak out. I can speak freak
8:27out there and make everything worse in
8:29my opinion. See my mom anytime that I'm
8:32stressed out. I'm not allowed to be
8:34stressed out because the girls did it.
8:36[clears throat]
8:37So, I'm at this. Don't don't this is
8:48This doesn't happen in a couple days.
8:50>> She was skinny but not all like that.
8:52Her her wrist was showing but not like
8:55that.
8:59She must not have been fat at all.
9:02>> This is caused from neglect.
9:04>> She was skinny. I had talked to the
9:07doctor about that because she refused to
9:09eat for a while and she was starting to
9:10eat again. That's why I was getting a
9:12rethought.
9:14She was skinny but not like that.
9:17>> This happens over weeks, not days.
9:20>> She was skinny. She was skinny for her.
9:22She was like like that and that. Not
9:27like that. That's not okay at all.
9:33And diaper rash down there.
9:36But that was
9:40I don't want to baby. Hey, what's your
9:42name?
9:43>> You're not going to show your dead baby.
9:46>> That she wasn't changed at all from that
9:49she wasn't changed at all from my dad's
9:52inspection when I came home and
9:54everybody was sleeping.
9:57THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. THAT'S WHAT I
9:59THOUGHT. AND NOW I'M SCARED. Now I'm
10:00scared. Maybe dead because I didn't hear
10:03her cry. You know what I mean? Like like
10:06what if she passed away? Like did I die?
10:08Like what if she was saying she passed
10:10away? I don't know what happened with
10:12her. I do not know what happened because
10:14I saw her that day, but the doctors I
10:17was hanging out with it was the doctors
10:19and I was worried but the doctor said
10:21that things were going to get better and
10:23I was explaining how they weren't eating
10:25and they they
10:26>> Oh, yeah. This happens over
10:28not days.
10:29>> I know that was not that bad
10:32>> while they were in your care.
10:34>> That was not that bad at all.
10:38>> That was not that bad at all.
10:41My child was skinny but not like that. I
10:43have pictures
10:45how this can happen.
10:47>> She refused
10:48>> while in your care.
10:49>> She did refuse to eat. So I was giving
10:51her only milk because that was the only
10:53thing she would eat.
10:55>> You mentioned you were taking her to
10:56McDonald's and she eating McDonald's.
10:58>> My wife she had started she started
11:00eating. So I was going to get her some
11:02McDonald's because she was starting to
11:03eat and I was happy for her. But I'm not
11:06going to feed her McDonald's to try to
11:08get her better, you know. And but
11:10>> All right, let's cut the Okay.
11:12>> No, I'm I'm being that I'm being
11:14>> So am I. How did this happen? How does
11:17this happen? Over a couple years.
11:19>> She was skinny, but not to that. That is
11:25that is not where
11:26>> you mentioned to me not too long ago
11:27that a doctor said that she was fat and
11:31that the kids are and now you're and now
11:33you're saying they were
11:35>> you can look at the time on the doctors
11:37I go get them you can look at the last
11:41time yeah
11:42>> how did this happen
11:47how did these how did these abrasions
11:48happen
11:50>> how did all those sores and blisters I
11:52know that
11:54there was one documented one that I was
11:56talking to about because I had laid her
11:58the wrong way in the crib one time and
12:01um she got her foot stuck right here and
12:04there was a red mark right there. I took
12:06a picture of that and because it wasn't
12:08bleeding or anything like that and she
12:10got caught like for a nap
12:14all night like you know what I mean like
12:17I put her down
12:20>> this isn't normal for a 2-year-old.
12:21That's not That's not what I'm talking
12:23about right now. I'm talking just about
12:25that she had gotten down to like right
12:28there.
12:30>> Any point you didn't consider taking him
12:32to the doctor?
12:33>> I was.
12:35>> That's what I was going to do. My kids
12:37were coughing halfway. My my car wasn't
12:40working. I'm only me.
12:44>> So I But you knew your daughter was like
12:46this cuz she was like this when you went
12:48to Tri Cities. She was skinny. She was
12:51really skinny when we went to Tri
12:53Cities.
12:55>> She was really skinny. I have pictures
12:57that
12:58>> you were more concerned about going to
13:00Tri Cities than going getting
13:02>> I was trying to
13:03>> prepare for your daughter.
13:04>> No. No, it wasn't that at all. The
13:07doctor's appointment was already set for
13:10that day. I was just waiting for the
13:12doctor.
13:12>> You told me the doctor appointment was
13:14for you, not for your kids.
13:15>> Supposed to be for all three of us. And
13:17that I just went because at that point
13:20they were sick. They were crying. They
13:22were they were happier in the car. They
13:24seriously they were happier in the car
13:26than they were anywhere else. So I like
13:30I thought that was totally fine. So they
13:32were still in their car seat. I got
13:34stuck in their car seat. They were
13:36skinny. Yes, they were skinny. the
13:40doctor ser that getting
13:44like I I showed him I showed him
13:49at the time I I was it wasn't that bad.
13:54>> You told me earlier that they were fat.
13:57>> It was okay
13:58>> that they were choking and they were
13:59making fun of him.
14:00>> Okay. Her 2year-old appointment
14:06that was
14:10one before.
14:12So that would be her 16-month
14:13appointment. You can look at Dr. Ed's
14:15charts and you can see what I'm talking
14:17about. That was way before she got sick
14:20and then she refused to eat anything
14:22other than milk and she refused milk and
14:25I did talk to I talked to him about it
14:27and I like she
14:29>> talked to who about it?
14:30>> The doctor. So I I went to Dr. Fickers.
14:33So I explained that they they hadn't
14:36eaten and they were refusing food.
14:40>> So her two-year appointment was in
14:42January,
14:44>> correct?
14:45>> Um it was the appointment before that
14:47one. It was like her 16th.
14:50So that's not
14:51>> her 18month appointment.
14:53>> I think I did
14:5518th. You can look. It's on there. You
14:58can see where she got back. So you're
15:01saying since that appointment she had
15:03stopped eating?
15:05>> Not all of the days she stopped eating
15:07for days straight like days straight. So
15:10I
15:10>> And that wasn't concerning
15:11>> her milk. I was giving her milk
15:16because I checked and like my mom groups
15:19and I'm like that is refusing to eat and
15:22they're like that's normal. That's
15:23normal. And so at like day like four or
15:26five, I'm actually like getting worried
15:28worried like so I I I asked the doctor
15:32because I'm like she's like not eating
15:34but now she she's like trying to because
15:38I was giving her like bites of like food
15:40that I would like like you know what I
15:42mean? Like I would give her like some of
15:45my little chalupa and she would love
15:47that. But if I tried to just give her
15:49anything else because it wasn't a
15:51special food, she wouldn't want to eat
15:53it. So she hit a eight with Sophie,
15:58totally fine. Then they were still sick,
16:01still snotty, but they were happy. They
16:05were doing okay. They were skinny, sick.
16:08>> How often How often would you go with
16:10not feeding them?
16:12>> No, I wouldn't go without
16:13[clears throat] feeding them.
16:14>> How often would they go without eating?
16:16>> She was drinking like half of a bottle
16:19from it. she was drinking like um
16:23she would totally refuse the bottle and
16:25she would throw it out of the crib and
16:27she wouldn't cry. So I thought she was
16:29drinking bottles and then I would come
16:31in and then it's milk and I'm like well
16:36that's wasted and so I try again. I
16:40tried to manage too if that works more
16:42>> I'm trying to understand what part of
16:43your story is true and what part of it
16:45is
16:46>> a complete lie. Earlier you said that
16:48you would make eight oz bottles and they
16:50were chugging the bottles and they were
16:52all chugging bottles and now you're
16:53saying that they're only drinking a
16:55little bit and they're
16:56>> talking about how they were growing
16:57them.
16:58>> I'm talking about 0 to one.
17:01>> Okay. I'm talking about 0 to one, not
17:04the time is 6 months old.
17:07>> Correct. Seven months.
17:08>> And you said she was already taking 8 oz
17:10bottles and you're saying she's taking 8
17:12oz bottle. Then she goes to taking like
17:142 ounces at a time. Okay. You didn't
17:16mention any of that.
17:17>> NO, I DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU ASKED THEM
17:19GROWING UP, NOT THEM. The fall of their
17:21demise. I was on to the okay part
17:25because I was going through the okay
17:26part.
17:27>> Tell me about the fall of their demise.
17:29>> The fall of their demise was getting
17:31sick. We were all sick and then they
17:33refused to eat and I was super tired and
17:37then this this week happened which was
17:41when we were kind of getting better
17:43>> when you left them alone. No, this the
17:45week we're talking about.
17:46>> No,
17:48they got better at the doctors and then
17:50I had I think one more I did one thing
17:54with them before
17:57we went.
18:00>> I'm going to give you some time to look
18:01this over and talk about that.
18:02>> We went really skinny
18:04>> and I can show you.
18:05>> We're going to step outside real quick.
18:07Okay.
18:09>> I don't know what you want me to do.
18:10Just look at these pictures. I get it.
18:13It's really traumatizing. I understand.
18:16I know that my kids.
18:19So, you're just going to leave me with
18:21it.
18:21>> Well, come back right now. Okay. You can
18:23turn them over if you like. It's
18:26traumatizing the two-year-old mother. I
18:28understand my kids got skinny, but they
18:30were like that. They were like that.
18:34They were sunken in like that and pushed
18:37out like that.
18:47Okay.
18:49Hey.
18:52Okay.
18:57Okay. I wrote this out so that you can
18:59understand what I'm trying to say more.
19:02This period of time I was sick. They
19:05were sick. I was taking care of them.
19:07Okay. I felt like I was bailing mother.
19:09I was trying to throw out all the
19:11things. Okay, I'm trying to write.
19:13>> Why didn't you tell me the first time?
19:14>> BECAUSE I'M A VISUAL PERSON. I WRITE
19:17down notebooks. Remember, I'm visual.
19:21So, please look at this and try to
19:23understand this because I'm trying to
19:25explain it and you can look back and you
19:27can see where I'm putting this together.
19:30Okay. So, look, this is the wig going
19:33and I I tried to I was mess with a pen.
19:36So, I've been trying to do it myself
19:44[laughter]
19:46before I Taco Bell.
19:51I went to my
19:55>> I can't understand closed it. [snorts]
19:57>> We closed it.
20:00>> Follow.
20:04>> Yeah.
20:12that I don't remember that period of
20:14time when we were all so sick.
20:17That's when they stopped eating and I
20:19remember
20:21that. We were playing Billy's gender
20:24reveal. She was about to send our gender
20:27reveal card. And that in the day that I
20:30went over, I celebrated the fact that
20:33she ate a beefy five layer of burrito.
20:41And [clears throat]
20:45he got home
20:48more time. As I said, I stay home. I
20:51stay home. This is just me. And it just
20:55me and the kids at this point [snorts]
20:57and I still feel like I'm failing. Okay,
21:00>> I understand. It's hard.
21:02>> I feel like I'm failing as a mom. Okay,
21:05so yeah, I put it out and it really
21:08doesn't look bad. Can I get this? Can I
21:10get this? Can I get this for a little
21:13bit? And then I thought they were doing
21:16fine.
21:18Having an okay time, you know.
21:22She's like she's lethargic and she's
21:25like she's getting okay. She's staying
21:28here and like 4 oz once. She took like 2
21:33oz once like
21:36>> we just it was locked. So we I don't
21:38know. Okay.
21:38>> We don't get locked in here.
21:40>> So
21:42yeah, it really doesn't like that. I
21:45really myself that before
21:49>> I was doing everything. So, I thought
21:51that I could trust THIS 30-YEAR-OLD MOM,
21:53YOU KNOW, like I'm talking to her and
21:56I'm
21:58with my friends. I feel like I'm getting
22:00better.
22:00>> Who's the 30 mom?
22:02>> K. Look, K I put K right there, too. And
22:07so, and by the way, so Melly started her
22:11miscarriage here. You guys won't
22:12understand this, so I'm putting it into
22:14stupid terms so that you guys get it.
22:16Melly has her miscarriage. She starts
22:18bleeding. She starts biting. That's when
22:19it's pink on the pad. It's not a full
22:22man's carriage yet. It's just spotting.
22:24You can ask her. She'll understand. If
22:26you have any questions, she can
22:28understand or she can come in to
22:30understand it more. So, dad got gas
22:32because we know that the day after she's
22:34going to be actually like misy misy like
22:37clumps, cell tissue. So, I refuse to go
22:41to Planned Parenthood. I'm pro-life. I
22:43refuse to give that business any of my
22:45service or any of my time. So we get
22:48there right after her appointment
22:52or M president or whatever
22:56is you
22:58and so at that point
23:01it's fine if we hang out together that
23:03night
23:05and then at night also
23:08I don't like abortion so she's like I'm
23:13all day I constantly constantly
23:20I know.
23:21>> Can I ask you something?
23:23>> So, you and I talked about you're So,
23:25this is tough. This is tough. And
23:28sometimes telling that
23:29>> I can hear you.
23:30>> Okay. Don't just take deep breaths. Take
23:32deep breaths. We talked about this,
23:33right?
23:40>> My phone. I've been on the jacket like
23:44that.
23:45>> Can I talk?
23:46>> Yeah. Enjoy it.
23:47>> And And don't yell. Just talk like
23:50normal. Okay. It's tough.
23:52One of the toughest things
23:56has happened here. And we get that.
23:59Okay. Look at me. Look at me.
24:04You You You trusted me, right?
24:07I'm an old-timer.
24:09I've seen a lot. And I I And we we have
24:12empathy towards you. I told you that,
24:14too.
24:15>> Okay. We're not we're we're not that
24:17>> we're not mad at you, right?
24:20>> But you know, you know what? You know
24:21what? Your baby deserves
24:23mom to bite her to to bite her pride and
24:27just be like, you know what?
24:29>> Really bad.
24:29>> Listen, let me talk. Let me talk.
24:32>> Don't interrupt.
24:35>> And your baby deserves this.
24:37>> Your baby deserves to hear mom.
24:40>> Tell the truth. Tell the truth,
24:43>> okay? no matter how hard it is.
24:45>> And dear, I know for sure it's hard.
24:48>> Tell the truth is one of the hardest
24:49stuff,
24:50>> but we don't we don't we don't want to
24:52see the scribble. We want to hear about
24:54it. I'll rewrite it.
24:56>> You know what we want to hear? We don't
24:57want to hear.
24:59>> Why did you leave your kid alone for so
25:00long? Oh,
25:01>> I didn't leave them alone. I thought I
25:04was leaving them with someone that I
25:05could front.
25:06>> Because you know, you know that
25:08>> and I just didn't see the deterioration
25:10day by day, I guess. Look, it stop. We
25:14know that KK doesn't exist.
25:16>> No, she does.
25:16>> Okay.
25:17>> Yeah, [clears throat] there's a there
25:18should be a note somewhere in my
25:20bathroom.
25:20>> It's fine. And we're we're going to find
25:22everything out. And I just want I
25:24trusted you. [clears throat]
25:25>> Listen Listen. I trusted you driving you
25:28here.
25:29>> Keep talking. Listen. Listen.
25:30>> Ever from down the road. No. No. I'm
25:33telling you information from down the
25:35road.
25:36>> I listen to you for 2 hours. I want you
25:37to listen to me for five minutes. Okay.
25:41>> You want to go off on tangents about
25:43things that are don't matter.
25:45>> I'm trying to make
25:46>> I want you to talk about your daughter.
25:48>> Yeah.
25:49>> I want you to tell us the truth. I want
25:50you to tell us why this happened.
25:52>> I don't I'm dying. I went day by day and
25:55now I can go honor my daughter.
25:57>> So, how long did you hear?
26:00>> They're they're they're sick. They're
26:02sick and I'm to a point where I'm like I
26:05feel like I'm doing JUST A BAD JOB. HOW
26:08LONG WERE THIS FOR?
26:09>> It was a week at that point.
26:11>> A week at that point?
26:12>> It was weak at that point.
26:13>> At what point?
26:13>> It was really bad. It It was
26:16>> the point you found her. It's been a
26:17week. It was a week at that point.
26:19>> Oh, it's a week until I went to here.
26:24>> Hey, I I don't I I don't
26:25>> I Okay. The night that we got that I
26:28actually that I just I left them with KK
26:32and that that was a long time. I put
26:34that to
26:35>> So you left him with JK for a whole week
26:38to correct
26:40>> it would be 6 days and I didn't mean to
26:42make it six days. I went to jail.
26:45>> We
26:47know.
26:48>> So what did when you left?
26:53>> Let me hold that.
26:54>> When you left when you left your kids
26:56with KK, how long did you tell KK you
26:58were going to be gone for?
27:01my bag.
27:04>> After getting a chicken
27:07[crying]
27:08because I didn't know how jail work
27:12I haven't been to jail. I hang out with
27:17people who would talk about going to
27:18jail.
27:19>> Okay. But no,
27:20>> you had you hadn't gone home since.
27:24>> No, I So I went and before jail, you
27:28were gone for home for 4 days.
27:31That would be six minutes, correct?
27:33>> Yeah. I left right that night.
27:36>> Yep.
27:37>> I need went to sleep and that felt like
27:42my friends and I miscar
27:45>> What do you think? What do you What did
27:47you think would happen to your kids
27:48being alone for 6 days?
27:52>> They were with KK.
27:54I I can I Wait, I have that key piece of
27:57information. So down the road at the
28:01apartments that used to be purple, do
28:02you know the apartments that used to be
28:04purple across from the green church?
28:06>> Mhm.
28:06>> Yeah.
28:07>> Mhm.
28:07>> Multiple. There's a guy named
28:11um Eerson. Eper.
28:22That is KK. I'm going to kick his
28:26but they have domestic violence.
28:29They I think I keep like one time.
28:33>> Okay, we'll look into them. So listen
28:35>> that that she would know KK K is a real
28:38person. I didn't leave them alone. I
28:41didn't think I was just leaving them
28:43alone. Now I really
28:45>> feel like there's nothing happening and
28:47they got cleaned up when I got home. And
28:51then
28:52>> she mentioned earlier that it was
28:53possible that you might have been dead
28:56when your father was there. Is that
28:58correct?
29:00>> It was the fact that I came home
29:03>> cuz your dad WENT OVER AND CHECK your
29:06house at one point.
29:06>> And I was told I was told after I got my
29:09little
29:11I know what it was. I went to go get a
29:15um at Circle K down the road from
29:19>> Just tell me tell me the truth. Tell the
29:20truth.
29:21>> Okay. Circle K down the road from
29:23Kendra's house. Not really down the
29:25road, but right there it sells Evol.
29:30So I still going to go get one because I
29:32really I just wanted to talk to
29:34somebody. I really wanted just to like
29:36get everything off of my mind like
29:39because that was really strong wait for
29:42me like
29:43>> miscarriage.
29:44>> I'm going to ask you a question. I want
29:46you to tell me.
29:46>> Yes.
29:47>> Okay.
29:47>> I trust the KK.
29:49>> I'm going to ask you a question. I want
29:50you to tell me.
29:51>> Yes.
29:52>> How long dead? I don't know because that
29:57is the day that that the last time
30:02that I know she was alive was we went to
30:05the doctors
30:08and I
30:11>> really bad.
30:12>> You know what I you know what I really
30:13feel feel bad about is that you you know
30:19>> and you you have you didn't want to tell
30:21your mom because you told us over and
30:22over again that she'd be
30:24And it was embarrassing to hear and I
30:26know made that
30:29police were going.
30:30>> She shouldn't be.
30:31>> She shouldn't [clears throat]
30:32because this this kind of stuff can
30:34happen.
30:35>> So my mom is
30:39I called her.
30:40>> So So was it a week? Was it a week? Was
30:42it a week ago?
30:44>> No. No.
30:47No. The last time that I know for sure
30:50that they were like it was right before
30:53I picked up Kren like all that. That's
30:57the last time. And then I came home from
30:59that inspection.
31:01>> Yes. And I was told that they were
31:02sleeping
31:03>> by who?
31:04>> KK. So we were just doing our inspection
31:08thingy. I was like, "Yeah, they're
31:09sleeping."
31:12>> They were sleeping.
31:13>> Let's be honest.
31:14>> No, literally. Yes, they were. I'm
31:17sorry. I did not care to check that
31:20because I trusted I trusted that.
31:23>> I did and I'm a piece of for that. I
31:26should have checked on my
31:28>> We've talked to multiple people who said
31:30they've constantly heard your kids
31:32crying every day and they haven't heard
31:34your kids crying for over a week now.
31:39>> And I
31:40>> do you know how long a week is?
31:42>> Yes. But I also know that Hexi would,
31:45you know,
31:49probably cry through that
31:52if I wasn't there. So for the last week
31:55when I was gone,
31:56>> their diapers weren't changed.
32:01>> Nobody was watching.
32:02>> [ __ ] horrible.
32:03>> Nobody watching them.
32:07>> And I
32:10fault THAT I TRUSTED HER.
32:14I'M SORRY.
32:15>> It's okay.
32:16>> It's okay.
32:30>> I just wanted to break.
32:35>> Can you take us to where she lives so we
32:36can talk to her?
32:41Hey.
32:42>> Hey.
32:43>> I I think Can we drive by the house? Can
32:45you just point out to us?
32:46>> I'm right this second, but
32:48>> it's one of the apartments in that
32:50apartment is one of them. I don't care.
32:52Go over there.
32:53>> Is she Is she she white, Hispanic,
32:55black, native?
32:56>> Native and Hispanic. He is He's native.
33:00is native and Hispanic, but he's cousins
33:04of Emma. So, Emma would know him and you
33:08can talk to Emma.
33:10>> Okay, let's flip back to you.
33:13>> I went to jail and I was going to hang
33:15out with them that night and I got the
33:17big dog.
33:20>> You're you're you're you are scared of
33:24us having a perception of you by telling
33:26us how long Terry's been.
33:29>> I don't. And we are not going to judge
33:30you. I'm telling you that right now. I'm
33:32not fing you.
33:33>> I'm looking. Remember we talked about
33:35high attack?
33:36>> Yeah, I know. I feel
33:38>> Was it last Tuesday?
33:40>> I don't know. Last Tuesday, but I feel
33:42like maybe she was lying to me about
33:44them being asleep.
33:46>> Yeah. And scared, BUT I DIDN'T THINK
33:48ABOUT THAT AT THE TIME.
33:50>> SO, Dad comes every Sunday night.
33:52>> No, we've been sick. So, he's been
33:55giving us a little bit of a break. Like,
33:58yeah, we I've been really trying. Do you
34:01see how I am trying? They were giving me
34:04a little pregnancy.
34:07>> Did you know what happened? And you were
34:09trying to medicate yourself.
34:10>> No. No. After after all that, I tried to
34:16overdose.
34:17>> Yeah.
34:17>> But I It didn't work.
34:20>> What?
34:21>> After
34:22>> After you dead. after I found dead and I
34:24reported it and I was already like gone.
34:27>> What were you overdosing on?
34:29>> Um I had got some cocaine.
34:34>> So
34:34>> when's the last time you did some
34:35cocaine?
34:37>> I did it all in one go. I did a 50 and I
34:40thought I would die.
34:40>> When was that?
34:42>> That was the the night when I thought
34:45the police were there.
34:46>> The night that you found
34:48>> Yes.
34:51>> Yes.
34:52after and I thought the police had gone
34:54and it was after the whole, you know,
34:57the whole I thought the police were
34:59chasing me type. Like that was scary. I
35:04find my child dead and I'm ALREADY
35:06BLAMING MYSELF BECAUSE I SAID THAT
35:08[screaming] EXACT SAME THING to myself.
35:10Okay.
35:14I basically just left them and she did
35:17nothing
35:20because I didn't SPEND ENOUGH TIME IN
35:22THE HOUSE to the doctor
35:25to see
35:27and I get home and she's gone
35:32and my child's dead
35:35and I don't know about but I feel like
35:38she was and I should take photos with
35:46Yeah.
35:48[screaming]
35:50>> You know what else we get? You know what
35:52else we get? We get that you're 20 years
35:53old and that you've had a kid since you
35:55were 16, 17ish.
35:57>> And you didn't you didn't get to really
35:59experience life and these kids kind of
36:00got in your way.
36:02>> But no no no no no.
36:07No one's singing. No one's singing.
36:09Listen. Stop. JUST I THOUGHT YOU GUYS
36:11were chasing me. We thought I
36:14>> We want you to tell We want No, no one
36:17is saying you murdered your kids.
36:19>> That's what I thought.
36:20>> No,
36:22>> I genuinely thought everything
36:28the
36:31cocaine feeling.
36:32>> We don't want to talk about that. I want
36:33to talk about the day you learned
36:36>> that Cherry was there and then you came
36:37to realization cuz you sobered up cuz
36:39you went to jail and you said, "You know
36:40what? I have a clear mind right now and
36:43I'm going to go check on my kid."
36:44>> And you verified it and you're like, "Oh
36:46my goodness."
36:47>> But I had it and my heart sunk.
36:50>> Yeah.
36:50>> For some reason, you can stand in there.
36:53>> I was fine.
36:55>> I was doing just fine. And I thought,
36:58"Fuck,
36:59>> I need to go check my baby. I need to go
37:01check out my baby. I need to go drive my
37:02baby
37:04>> cuz you sat in jail for 12 or 14 hours
37:06and you sobered up and you felt before
37:10jail
37:10>> and then you felt you felt you felt that
37:12he was a mom but your mom bump came out
37:14and said I have to go verify that my
37:16child is
37:16>> I didn't do it in cocaine before
37:19>> No, I'm not talking about that. What did
37:21we just say? You got out of jail.
37:23>> I got you had clarity in your mind and
37:27you had a little bit of guilt in you and
37:28you said I'm going to go check on my
37:29baby and verify Okay.
37:31>> Yeah.
37:32>> So, what day did what day did then then?
37:34Yes. We establish that. So, what day
37:36what day did what day? Because I was
37:39trying to convince
37:42>> you're convincing yourself it's not
37:43true. I get it. But what day did you
37:46learn?
37:48Was it a week ago or 10 days?
37:50>> No, it was the jail day.
37:52>> That's the day you verified.
37:54>> Look at Look it.
37:56The jail day is the day that I verified.
38:00But before that, it would have been this
38:02day for it. Okay.
38:06>> That my dad came over and she was like,
38:08"They're sleeping."
38:10>> I was like, "That's a little weird."
38:12>> Yeah.
38:13>> That's when you
38:17[screaming]
38:20>> It's okay.
38:26>> It's okay. It really is.
38:30Please do not. It is not okay because I
38:33throw that on my children. I both of
38:36them.
38:39>> I love my children. I love them. I still
38:43love them. Oh, I want to find my two
38:45babies. Okay, that's never going to
38:47happen again. I hate it. Also, I seen I
38:52see it right now in my tears. That
38:56freaking just freaking anyone out. And
38:58then you see it all.
39:02>> Why did you call us the day you found
39:04out?
39:06>> I didn't have I didn't know that I could
39:11call on 911. I didn't know that that was
39:14a thing without data and a SIM card.
39:18>> I didn't.
39:19>> I mean, my daughter is four. She knows.
39:21>> I did not know that. I really did not
39:24know that. I have never been told that.
39:27Did your phone work? Did your phone work
39:29the day before dad came on Sunday?
39:31>> Yeah. And she cancelled it the night of
39:33our fight when I was trying to figure
39:35out how to tell her that. And after I
39:40been submitting that,
39:42>> we were in the middle of the fight. I
39:44was doing that.
39:45>> You were on your way to the truth right
39:46there and you stopped yourself. We want
39:48to hear it. Come on, girl.
39:49>> No. No. No. We were on our way.
39:56Try it.
39:59Me and my mom, she told me to call her.
40:02I was trying to the fact that I was in
40:04jail. Okay.
40:06I don't want you to know that I went to
40:08jail. I want you to know that I went to
40:10jail now. I'm embarrassed.
40:13>> That's not important right now. Okay.
40:16Your kids are
40:17>> I know. So, don't worry about that. So
40:20that was my and I was just gonna say mom
40:23I came back from jail and then I'm sorry
40:26I don't have anything to
40:30I came back from jail and my kids bet I
40:35don't know how to tell her
40:37and she cancels my phone service before
40:39I can even call her back
40:42and then I tried to get up there on my
40:45little ride and I thought people were
40:48chasing me
40:52the gay.
40:53>> All right, stop. So when
40:56>> I did this,
40:58>> this is going to be tough. When you were
41:00in cow town,
41:01>> shut up.
41:02>> Okay, tell tell my [clears throat]
41:03partner I
41:04>> tell my partner and I was she dead.
41:08>> No.
41:10>> How do you know?
41:10>> Count I don't think she was dead.
41:12>> Don't think so.
41:13>> No, because I went back. I gave her the
41:16bottle. Oh my god. I was looked in the
41:18car seat.
41:19>> She wasn't
41:20>> that day of cow town.
41:21>> She wasn't
41:22>> at the end.
41:23>> You You and three others slept in the
41:25car.
41:26>> Cow town was the morning.
41:28We slept there in the morning. We left
41:31at 6:00 and I came back for our doctor's
41:35my doctor's appointment. It was supposed
41:37to be ours.
41:38And then I even called and I was like,
41:40"When you I just come in with all this
41:43stuff for them.
41:48to tell us we're going to death. She
41:50does
41:57>> she does anything.
42:00>> Not saying you did.
42:01>> I don't know where that but I know she
42:05was alive that day.
42:08>> What day?
42:09>> The day of the doctor's appointment.
42:12And it was really bad.
42:14>> It was Do you think
42:17>> if you took cuz I'll tell you this. If I
42:20saw
42:24the doctor, I would not let you leave
42:25with him.
42:27>> So I know you didn't go to the doctor
42:29with him.
42:30>> How?
42:32>> Cuz I wouldn't let you leave with the
42:34way they looked, how malnourished they
42:35were. I would not let you leave with
42:37those.
42:37>> It was not that bad. It was not that
42:39bad. That is horrible.
42:42That
42:43is more than I ever
42:45>> That happened
42:46>> that
42:47>> over weeks.
42:49>> Over weeks. Yes. But that those last
42:52>> that I would have sent them to my mom at
42:55that point,
42:57>> right?
42:58>> I would have but I
43:02THOUGHT
43:04[screaming] ABOUT IT
43:06ELSEWHERE.
43:11>> [screaming]
43:12>> I wanted to make my mom happy.
43:14>> Why'd you say you took him to the doctor
43:15[clears throat] when they never went to
43:16the doctor?
43:19>> You don't have to lie to us anymore.
43:21It's okay to tell the truth.
43:24>> My mom,
43:26>> you know how much better.
43:27>> You know how much better you'll feel
43:29knowing
43:32>> because we're not we're not judging you
43:35by any stretch. Look at Look at me. But
43:38I am
43:39>> eye to eye. Eye contact like you told me
43:41that eye contact.
43:43>> I judge me.
43:44>> Not not judging you.
43:45>> But I not
43:49>> that's on my skin. We're not judging.
43:50And I guarantee he's not.
43:52>> But you know the truth.
43:54>> Just say it. Just deserves.
43:58>> I don't know when she died. Okay.
44:01>> She was alive at the doctor's
44:02appointment. I know that cuz I at least
44:04I told her in the morning.
44:05>> But you never took her. Correct.
44:09>> Katie was there sleeping.
44:10>> Why didn't you take her?
44:12>> What?
44:12>> Why did you take her daughter?
44:16>> That it was so bad that
44:19>> Yeah.
44:19>> I was scared that my kids were going to
44:21get taken from me without me getting the
44:24chance to
44:24>> Yeah.
44:26>> THAT ME TRYING TO [screaming]
44:30GO ME TRYING TO sh
44:34[screaming]
44:38I got it.
44:40I know it.
44:43>> So you knew
44:44>> I should leave.
44:45>> So you knew they needed to go to the
44:46doctor.
44:47>> They're leaving and I hear her cry,
44:50>> right? You knew they needed to go.
44:54>> You knew they needed to go.
44:55>> I explained that they were eating.
44:57>> But you knew they needed to go get seen
44:59by a doctor. Correct.
45:00>> I thought I did. Genuinely at that point
45:03it was really bad, but I thought that I
45:05could fix it. I thought that I was just
45:07really really sick. Really really sick.
45:11I thought that
45:15>> But you knew it was so bad that if you
45:17took your kids to the doctor that he
45:18would take them from you
45:20>> or you felt that way, right?
45:22>> I felt that way.
45:23>> Yeah.
45:23>> I always feel that way taking them to
45:25the doctor. That's why I like taking
45:27them to the doctor. But you can see the
45:29reports that they're doing good. They
45:32were doing
45:37Well, we we do have a we do have a job
45:39to do to check all that stuff. So, that
45:41mean
45:47>> everything started going bad.
45:50>> When did everything start going bad?
45:51>> Everything started.
45:52>> You don't need to write stuff down. We
45:53can talk.
45:54>> Everything started going bad.
45:56>> When
45:59it was really bad Christmas,
46:01>> mommy had a miscarriage. No.
46:04Oh, I'm talking about right now cuz it
46:06wasn't bad until they got sick. You can
46:08see pictures from
46:12Hex's second birthday.
46:15They're bingo and bluey.
46:18I bingo and blue and stuff. They were so
46:20funny.
46:23They were doing amazing. You can see the
46:25pictures. My mom has the pictures and me
46:27and my also went to Denny's with them.
46:30Anyway, still doing good. And that was a
46:32good two three two weeks later.
46:35>> Yeah. You earlier you also mentioned
46:37that Jerry that you were in car problem,
46:41>> right? [clears throat]
46:42>> Yeah.
46:42>> Your kids were in the car with you in
46:44the car seat.
46:45>> No.
46:47>> So I didn't I told my mom.
46:51>> I know that's not true.
46:53>> I know.
46:54>> We talked to the guy.
46:55>> I left K.
46:56>> Huh?
46:57>> I left them with KK inside.
47:00>> Yeah. And they were never in the car.
47:15Why my mom stupid?
47:21I wonder.
47:27And then I go to jail and then my CHILD
47:30DIED. AND I was my mom
47:33because I really was doing okay. I was
47:36trying. I was fighting and she know that
47:39she knows that I was really trying.
47:41>> How much of what you told us is true?
47:46>> And I take I take the dog thing back.
47:50That's
47:51>> the kids in the car.
47:54>> In the car. So, a lot of stuff they told
47:56us isn't true.
47:56>> They were happier in the car
48:00that night that I did take them out
48:05and then I car
48:08>> and then I thought that was okay.
48:10>> The truth. Okay.
48:15They were happy in the car and then I
48:19left.
48:20Can I get there? And I didn't come back.
48:24But she was there when I got back.
48:26>> You just said she wasn't there when you
48:28>> No, no, she was there when I got back
48:30from the doctors
48:32and she was there until my dad came and
48:36like shoot her out. her some of her
48:39stuff is still underneath the uh
48:42the uh
48:45sewing machine. The old one that was my
48:47grandma's.
48:49That's her stuff. And
48:53you look at it,
48:55>> you know, you don't have to think hard
48:56about
48:59>> truth.
49:00>> No, I just was trying to figure out my
49:02grandma. My grandma's machine that
49:04doesn't make sense to you guys. So, make
49:05a sewing machine. It's right underneath
49:08the double the hamster.
49:09>> You saw it?
49:10>> Yeah, that's all her stuff.
49:12>> Who stuff? Your
49:14>> KK.
49:14>> Okay.
49:16>> The bag and all that stuff. And
49:22what's KK going to?
49:23>> I hate this. I knew she was using, but I
49:26would still leave her home with the
49:28kids.
49:30>> Tell me more about I I don't know
49:32exactly what she was using because I
49:35tried not to get involved with it
49:36because I had a coke problem.
49:39>> You knew KK was using and you still
49:41decided to leave her.
49:43>> She said she wasn't using that much.
49:45>> You just said you knew she was using.
49:47>> I know. But you know that G like Garrett
49:50Macintosh showed up in my door and then
49:53>> Do you think it's possible that you knew
49:57was already dead and when she opened
49:59that door to that room and saw she left
50:01scared
50:05>> that she left?
50:06>> Yeah.
50:13>> What is that? Oh,
50:14>> it was an idea. Yeah.
50:18And
50:18>> so you think that you already knew was
50:21deceased
50:22and you asked Kay to
50:26look after them when she opened that
50:28door and she saw
50:32>> No, I didn't.
50:34I just didn't check and I kind of went
50:36with what she was saying and I saw that
50:38they were doing really bad.
50:40>> So you saw they were
50:41>> I went to go get McDonald's.
50:42>> So you saw they were doing better.
50:44>> Trying to do better. You saw your kids
50:46were doing bad.
50:48>> You saw your kids were doing bad and you
50:49still decided to leave.
50:51>> I just wanted to go get something she
50:54was smiling with me for.
50:57>> I just wanted to smile after all that.
51:06[crying]
51:10We got McDonald's.
51:13I wanted to make my friends happy. I
51:15want to make me happy. I want to make my
51:17kid happy. All see
51:20you.
51:21>> You're 20. Of course you want to make
51:23your friends happy. We get that 100%.
51:26>> But that
51:28all of it. That's not just my friends. I
51:31need to break my [screaming] eyes.
51:33>> And it's tough being 20-year-old
51:35>> and raising two kids. I get it. And I
51:37have my opinion before
51:42that and I hate myself for that.
51:44>> You think it was 10 days
51:48like a week? Looking back at it, it was
51:51a week.
51:52>> But is it still like a week?
51:55>> Sure.
51:55>> Cuz I was driving. I was dealing with
51:58miscarriage. I was dealing with
52:02>> You were trying to keep your mind off of
52:03it, right?
52:05>> I was. Yeah.
52:07>> I was just trying to like I thought
52:10that leaving them with her would do like
52:13maybe some good
52:15>> cuz I feel like a shitty mom, right?
52:16Like I feel like okay leave them like a
52:1930-year-old, right?
52:21Then I come back and
52:24they're not doing it at all. Okay.
52:28I cover up and I go to the doctors and I
52:32>> You covered who? and I didn't cover
52:34anyone up and they were still alive at
52:36that point. But I go to the doctors and
52:39I explain all this stuff
52:42and then
52:47I spend time with my mom
52:51and
52:54>> she left your kids alone for a week.
52:57>> No, I
52:59>> You left your kids with
53:01>> KK for a week. Now I'm staying alone.
53:04>> You didn't see them for a whole week. Is
53:06that correct? You left them with KK.
53:10>> I came back.
53:12>> I never checked on the kids.
53:16>> She was passed out.
53:20I thought they were passed out. Like I
53:22didn't.
53:23>> So were you telling us that?
53:26>> I don't think she was dead that long.
53:28No. Because I went in there. I went in
53:32there the day at the doctor.
53:34>> You know, we're going to find out.
53:36>> I know. I know. But I genuinely
53:42I wasn't there at the doctors.
53:50But I thought I thought it was going to
53:52get better. So after the doctors and all
53:55that, I did go a we got a drink. I came
53:59back. I was doing all the work to try to
54:02get the apartment. Okay. Because all
54:04that
54:06>> was coming.
54:08>> Yeah. So there was apartment. Okay.
54:11And then I came back and was like then
54:14it smelled bad and I really did feel
54:17like
54:18>> you know why it smell bad.
54:24>> You can admit it.
54:28>> Wait. No. You left the window open.
54:32>> Girl, you can admit it. It It's time.
54:34It's time. It's It's time. I want to
54:38leave here today knowing that a mom
54:40understands that things happen and they
54:42mess up.
54:44>> And it's not mess up though.
54:46>> And it's not the end of the world.
54:48>> It's the end of her world,
54:50>> right? So So show her some respect and
54:52tell us.
54:56I did and then I f you up
55:02>> and it smell
55:06>> smell any worse than my nor I know I
55:11have nose blind in my house.
55:12>> Why' you open the window?
55:14>> I didn't open the window has been open
55:16for months. The window has been open for
55:19months.
55:20>> You know how cold it's been?
55:21>> I know, but I turned the heat up. That's
55:24why. And I I that window has meant
55:26genuine loyalty for months. I did not
55:28because if I would have seen her dead, I
55:33would have reacted then.
55:36You know,
55:38if I would have seen her dad, I would
55:39have reacted then.
55:42But I just
55:43>> But you just you told us that you knew
55:44they weren't doing too good.
55:46>> But I know they weren't doing too good.
55:48I'm
55:48>> as a mother, wouldn't you want to keep
55:50checking and taking with the doctor, try
55:53to get him some help?
55:57>> I haven't
56:03[crying]
56:07doing good. I'm making money on. NO, I'M
56:12JUST STOP.
56:14stop and I don't make money and then I
56:17brought away myself
56:20and then I just I don't do good and then
56:22my mom's like why are you doing good? So
56:24I start up again and then we get sick
56:27and then decline
56:30it day by day. [screaming]
56:34I want to ask you I want my [screaming]
56:41I really do. I really want my parents
56:44out. I really do. I wanted to move back
56:46in with them. There's no reason to move
56:47back in with them. I wasn't doing okay.
56:51I wasn't doing okay.
56:54>> Why didn't you reach out for them? Why
56:56didn't you reach out for help when your
56:58kids were sick? I tried but my parents
57:01they worked so much to support me that I
57:04felt like I had to do okay.
57:06>> Why didn't you reach out?
57:08>> I tried.
57:13>> I've been sick for a long time. They
57:15needed help. Why didn't you get them
57:18help?
57:20>> You're constantly failing. They're
57:22constantly failing
57:25fail.
57:28I feel so good.
57:32>> I feel so bad trying to talk to you.
57:36>> I was trying to get myself.
57:38>> But you knew they needed help.
57:41>> You're You're telling me?
57:42>> I told I thought, you know,
57:46>> you thought going away would get them
57:48help.
57:50>> Going away like Give me a second to
57:53breathe. give her a second to just do
57:57her thing that I thought she could do.
57:58And you know, she said she had kids and
58:01I believe that she have had kids and I
58:04can I can show you guys who knows her.
58:07But
58:08>> but you told me maybe they weren't doing
58:10well.
58:13>> You said
58:14>> I know and I was so tired
58:18of that. I thought
58:22it would be okay.
58:23And then I did that half check to the
58:27doctors. No to the doctors.
58:29>> Yeah.
58:30>> And I got it.
58:31>> How?
58:33>> I don't know. But
58:35>> we're going to find out.
58:36>> It didn't look like she Yeah.
58:40>> She had what?
58:40>> It didn't look like she had been eating.
58:43But I mean, the formula cans were going
58:46I have multiple formula cans now. I
58:48wasn't able to find one.
58:52I'm going to make a comment like
58:54>> how do you think?
58:59>> But right now,
59:02>> what do you think in your mind?
59:03>> In my mind, the thing that makes most
59:05sense is
59:09they were being fed. And
59:12>> how long do you think being fed for?
59:15>> I don't know.
59:19>> Week. And I guess is when I left them
59:21with KK, she just didn't do it.
59:25And she probably
59:28took the cans since they're like $20
59:30each.
59:37>> I'll tell you this much. The cans are
59:38still in the house.
59:40>> Saw them.
59:41>> There was like 12.
59:44>> I saw the formula and said, "Don't
59:46>> There was like 12 and my mom had gotten
59:48me some more. But there were some in the
59:52>> there were some in the cupboard, but
59:54they were sealed.
59:55>> So for you to say there wasn't any and
59:57or she had taken them, that's
59:59>> No, the ones that I had that I set out
1:00:03the ones I set out and that
1:00:06>> when's the last time you
1:00:07>> I felt like that was because
1:00:10>> when's the last time you fed them? you
1:00:12physically physically the day that I all
1:00:19a week ago.
1:00:20>> The night I got gas
1:00:22and I came there with them and I
1:00:25explained everything.
1:00:27>> That was more than a week ago.
1:00:31>> That was a week ago that got gas.
1:00:35>> Hey, you know what? But honestly,
1:00:38>> listen. Look at me. Look at me. a week,
1:00:4010 days, 14 day, 20 days. It doesn't
1:00:42matter. I mean, it's just it's it's
1:00:44arbitrary. It's it's a number, right?
1:00:46So, you can you can you can try to shine
1:00:49it up and say it wasn't a week or it
1:00:50wasn't 10 days or 14,
1:00:52>> but how long do you think it would have
1:00:54been since your oldest daughter?
1:00:57>> I really I have had like the day that
1:01:02>> just a guess. Just a guess.
1:01:05>> 10 days.
1:01:08The last time that I better
1:01:10>> two weeks,
1:01:11>> um I was getting into McDonald's and
1:01:13then the day that
1:01:17[cough]
1:01:17>> again the day that I left for all that
1:01:21night
1:01:22that that we found out that M had the
1:01:24miscarriage. So that would be I have the
1:01:28time zone on my uh
1:01:30>> after you found Sherry dead, why'd you
1:01:32leave?
1:01:34>> I have seen her. I was scared to look at
1:01:37her. I was scared to see that cuz in my
1:01:41heart I knew.
1:01:42>> But why did you leave?
1:01:44>> CUZ I WAS SCARED TO TOUCH HER.
1:01:48>> SCARED TO TOUCH HEX.
1:01:49>> YEAH. I was genuinely I was genuinely
1:01:51scared to pick her up because I knew
1:01:54what state she would be in.
1:01:57>> I knew in my head that she wouldn't be
1:01:59okay if Cherry was dead. So I wanted the
1:02:03police to come and I wanted them
1:02:06>> you wanted it
1:02:07>> to get hurt and they get like you know
1:02:13remove her from this situation. I don't
1:02:15want to be in the room with a dead baby
1:02:16either.
1:02:18>> But your daughter actually needed you.
1:02:22>> I know
1:02:23>> she needed her mother
1:02:24>> and I wanted to play together. That's
1:02:27the most [ __ ] thing THAT I'VE EVER DONE
1:02:29IN A MOTHER.
1:02:34I just got scared.
1:02:40I in my head
1:02:42I feel like if I was dead when I pick
1:02:47her up and then I never heard the death
1:02:50because she's so
1:02:53I wanted
1:02:54>> how
1:02:55>> I [crying]
1:02:57go because in my head in my head it was
1:03:01like that but I didn't think it was that
1:03:06I
1:03:10I was scared.
1:03:13I I was so scared and that's why I
1:03:15thought y'all were chasing me. [snorts]
1:03:19I genuinely still don't know what
1:03:20happened with that. I got one of the
1:03:23vapes.
1:03:23>> Were you scared of us or were you scared
1:03:25of your mom?
1:03:26>> I was scared of you guys. I was scared
1:03:28of getting shot.
1:03:30>> No, no, no, no, no.
1:03:31>> Backing up on my back. My partner said,
1:03:34"Why didn't you grab Hexi?" And you
1:03:36said, "I was so scared." Of course,
1:03:37you're going to be scared. But were you
1:03:38scared of your mom?
1:03:39>> Were you scared of your mom or you
1:03:41scared of police?
1:03:42>> No, I was scared of
1:03:44>> picking her up. So
1:03:46>> after I had picked trying to pick up
1:03:48Terry and I felt I was I was scared.
1:03:55She was in my arm.
1:03:56>> Did you Did you pick her up in your
1:03:58arms?
1:03:58>> No.
1:03:59>> No.
1:04:00>> No. No. No. I want
1:04:04>> that part.
1:04:05>> Yeah, she was cold
1:04:07>> and cold and wet and
1:04:11I [crying and screaming]
1:04:14>> And you thought was the same? No, I
1:04:18didn't think she was dead, but I was
1:04:20scared that if I if I were to grab her,
1:04:26I would kill her
1:04:29cuz
1:04:31I I feel responsible even
1:04:35responsible even though I left someone
1:04:37there because
1:04:40I thought I was going to be one. Oh my
1:04:43god.
1:04:46And then
1:04:48I think it'll [clears throat] be fine if
1:04:50I don't call my mom. I tried to call my
1:04:53mom and I went to jail.
1:04:56But I didn't ever know.
1:05:03I don't know why, but going to jail is
1:05:05something that would just push her over
1:05:07the edge.
1:05:09>> What do you think? And now I
1:05:12am responsible for my kid
1:05:14[clears throat] dying. So
1:05:15>> what do you think KK is going to kill
1:05:17us?
1:05:21>> I don't know. But I I genuinely loved
1:05:23her with them before. She just kind of
1:05:25slept all. She She did play with the
1:05:28kids. She I would watch her feed them.
1:05:31>> Does she Does she know that your kiddos
1:05:33did?
1:05:38I don't know
1:05:41>> time for right now is the time to step
1:05:43up right now. Right now is Right now is
1:05:46game day.
1:05:47>> I don't know because then
1:05:48>> you think so?
1:05:50>> But she got back.
1:05:52>> Yeah.
1:05:53>> What' she say? Don't Don't tell anybody.
1:05:56Let's dip. What I mean?
1:05:58>> No.
1:05:58>> She's in panic mode, too. Or
1:06:01>> No. No.
1:06:02>> She was just chill about it.
1:06:05She wasn't. She said, "They're sleeping,
1:06:07so just don't wake them up." And that's
1:06:10when I thought it was weird. That's
1:06:12That's when I had like a mom feeling,
1:06:14but I was too worried about my dad
1:06:17and my dad and my mom. So, she came back
1:06:21around and that was after Gary Kid
1:06:24showed up. So, did you did you
1:06:28>> was the odor that your your dad smelled
1:06:30and you smelled in your apartment was
1:06:31that was that from a dead body?
1:06:34>> No, that was the the trash can in the
1:06:38front.
1:06:40Some of it if she was dead then some of
1:06:44that could have been. That's scary.
1:06:49>> You already told us that you think she
1:06:50was.
1:06:51>> What? You already told us that you think
1:06:53she was.
1:06:55[snorts]
1:06:56>> That would have been better, but it
1:06:57would have been I don't think was
1:07:00>> Let's not Let's not swap her. Let's not
1:07:02swap her. Let's just
1:07:03>> But no, genuinely it was it was the
1:07:05white one in front of the thing. It was
1:07:08a white in front of the thing because
1:07:10honestly I think I it was because my
1:07:13bathroom was just out of the bathroom
1:07:18and [snorts] I didn't want to go up and
1:07:20I didn't want to and I was so incredibly
1:07:21sick that I didn't want to walk. So I'm
1:07:23pretty sure I left there
1:07:25>> and that
1:07:27>> the the white trash can that's in front
1:07:29of the house right now that I just threw
1:07:31it outside cuz genuinely I went to go
1:07:33dump that and then that created the
1:07:35smell that was so horrible.
1:07:38Your doesn't smell horrible
1:07:40>> after it sits for a while with horrible
1:07:44s genuinely please.
1:07:47If that hasn't been look at look at it
1:07:49because that was the smell that I was
1:07:51smelling and the rest of the apartment
1:07:54was in
1:07:56it smelled hor it smelled bad but I
1:07:59thought it smelled bad. There's kitty
1:08:02there was kitty litter and I need to
1:08:04take poop on the walls.
1:08:08inside the kids room
1:08:11and
1:08:13she made the poop around. Every time
1:08:15that she's done that, I try to clean up.
1:08:19I have cleaned it up to the best of my
1:08:20ability that might not be perfect. And
1:08:23there might still be like a little chunk
1:08:25here or a chunk here or there, but I
1:08:27think twice a wipe and I genuinely
1:08:29would.
1:08:30>> How long did it take you to do your
1:08:32makeup?
1:08:34>> I did my makeup in the car. Wow.
1:08:36>> How long?
1:08:37>> It was talking.
1:08:37>> How long does it take you?
1:08:39>> Took me like 15 minutes.
1:08:40>> That does not take 15 minutes.
1:08:42>> It does.
1:08:45It was just eyeliner.
1:08:48I can do it in 15 minutes to show y'all.
1:08:50Like to prove myself.
1:08:51>> But it's perfection.
1:08:53>> Yeah,
1:08:54>> it's perfection.
1:08:55>> I love ICP. I just wanted
1:08:59you. I love Insane Clown Pausy. Love
1:09:01them. I do.
1:09:03>> Listen.
1:09:04I'm going to jail.
1:09:06>> Look at me. But you just my partner. You
1:09:08know what? I'm I'm getting out of point
1:09:10here. You just told my partner to the
1:09:12best of your ability. You clean up the
1:09:16that is all over the ball.
1:09:19But yet my partner
1:09:21[ __ ] all over your wall.
1:09:24>> The crib that I you know there was spots
1:09:26>> and your but I would go over the wall.
1:09:29That's the easiest part.
1:09:30>> And your makeup is perfect. Perfect.
1:09:33>> Yeah. I saw your picture. Perfect. It's
1:09:36great.
1:09:38But you in a white garbage can.
1:09:40>> Yeah. Well, that's also something that I
1:09:43kind of held on to from my parents
1:09:45because my parents would lock me in the
1:09:47room and then I
1:09:49trash can.
1:09:50>> Do you think your baby was had been dead
1:09:52for so long that his body was
1:09:53decomposing and that that was the odor
1:09:55you were smelling?
1:09:56>> No. Did you leave the window open to
1:09:58keep it cold in there? Because somebody
1:10:00may have told you the body won't
1:10:02decompose if it's a certain temperature.
1:10:04>> The body will decompose even if at that
1:10:06temperature. I know how like meat works.
1:10:08>> Did you search? Did you search it?
1:10:11>> Did I search it? No,
1:10:14I didn't didn't look long enough.
1:10:17It wouldn't always been open for months.
1:10:21I just I didn't get out. You know that
1:10:23it was 14° just a couple weeks ago.
1:10:27I was working outside. It's 14°
1:10:31and you're telling you're telling my
1:10:32partner we're we're all three adults
1:10:33here. All three of us are adults and
1:10:36we're all reasonable people. But you
1:10:39know what? I'm I get a little frustrated
1:10:40because I like me.
1:10:46Stop.
1:10:47>> I liked you since the time I I met you
1:10:49out there up at Squar. Okay, everyone
1:10:52deserves a chance and I told you that
1:10:55there's two sides to every story. I told
1:10:56you that. But you cannot continue just
1:10:59to sit here and try to lie to us like
1:11:01we're just little kids.
1:11:03>> No, the white trash can in the front.
1:11:05There should be some
1:11:07>> I'm not talking about that.
1:11:08>> That and then the thing has been open.
1:11:11>> We're talking about the window.
1:11:12>> Okay. The window has been open.
1:11:14>> That you move the one
1:11:16>> cuz I'm lazy and I forgot about I didn't
1:11:18even know it was open. They didn't even
1:11:20got
1:11:20>> You just told us it was open for 2
1:11:21months. But you just Now what you just
1:11:22said you
1:11:23>> and I opened it during the winter
1:11:25because I turned the heat up so hot that
1:11:27it got blasting in there and it came in
1:11:31when I and my kids were sweated. I
1:11:34sweated the out
1:11:35>> straight months. You left the window. I
1:11:38turn the heat to like right there and
1:11:41yeah
1:11:44I would come in it would be cold then it
1:11:45would come in it would be hot and then
1:11:47it would be old.
1:11:48>> And taxi taxi slept in that same room
1:11:50where the window was open.
1:11:52>> Yeah. And
1:11:53>> and it's 14° up
1:11:56>> but the heater is in there.
1:11:58>> What's your power bill every month?
1:12:00>> 400.
1:12:02>> Okay. Or is that for the whole duplex or
1:12:04is that just for yourself?
1:12:04>> That's just for me. 400 for just me. And
1:12:08>> who pays that?
1:12:13>> My mom for me.
1:12:16>> That's okay. [screaming]
1:12:21>> That's okay.
1:12:23I WOULD LOVE to [screaming]
1:12:33me
1:12:34now.
1:12:36>> Is there anything else you want to tell
1:12:37us?
1:12:40>> Anything else that you think we should
1:12:41know? It's important something that's
1:12:43going to
1:12:46>> Yeah, that's
1:12:50that's it.
1:12:56That's why I don't want to live with
1:12:57myself.
1:13:05Yeah, I'm going to end our ender have
1:13:07you in our
1:13:09Okay.
1:13:24>> So, you are going to go to jail today.
1:13:28Hey, you understand that? Did
1:13:30>> I get my phone though first, right? I
1:13:32need numbers.
1:13:33>> But we don't have your phone. Your phone
1:13:34is inside your car and we don't Your car
1:13:36is
1:13:38it's in our evidence.
1:13:39>> So,
1:13:43>> okay.
1:13:44>> What do I make? I mean, can I make I
1:13:46phone call and I didn't want to call my
1:13:48mom. I want my mom.
1:13:50>> And you'll be open door.
1:13:52>> I want my mama.
1:13:57Do you know your mom's number?
1:13:58>> Yes.
1:14:08>> Just so you know, it's everything in
1:14:10this room is still being video, not
1:14:11audio recorded. Okay.
1:14:18>> Okay. Uh what is the number?
1:14:25Okay. When you're We're going to watch
1:14:27you on the screen. Okay. So, I don't
1:14:28want you messing with my phone.
1:14:29>> Yeah.
1:14:30>> I'm letting you use it. Okay. All right.
1:14:32>> Bail you out.
1:14:33>> It's like $50.
1:14:36>> It's time for Please.
1:14:38>> You need to reach out to some of these.
1:14:40>> I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE.
1:14:42>> WELL, I don't know what to tell you.
1:14:44>> Please. Just please.
1:14:47>> No. Sorry.
1:14:48>> I don't have any numbers. Please.
1:14:50>> All right. All right.
1:14:51>> Please, mama. Please.
1:14:52>> All right. Let me just tell your mom
1:14:54what's going on. So, she she's going to
1:14:55be uh she's going to be booked on no
1:14:57bail until she sues a judge. And if they
1:14:59uh
1:15:00>> if they deem bail necessary, they'll
1:15:02issue a bail. But the bail is not going
1:15:03to be $50. It's going to be substantial.
1:15:05>> I'm sure it won't be.
1:15:06>> It'll be substantial. So, I'm uh we do
1:15:09have her car. We do have her phone.
1:15:10We're going to uh go through the process
1:15:12with that through the court system. Um
1:15:15and that that's all I have on my end. Um
1:15:18>> okay.
1:15:18>> Do you want to continue talking to her?
1:15:20But I I just don't want you guys
1:15:20arguing. Mama, I love you.
1:15:24>> She makes excuses for her behavior. So,
1:15:26I don't need to discuss anything with
1:15:27her. However, I do want to let you know,
1:15:29I don't know if this has any be on
1:15:31anything. However, I know that she says
1:15:33it's her phone, but it is my husband and
1:15:36I who pay for the phone and the service.
1:15:39It's in our name.
1:15:40>> And secondarily, yes, the car is legally
1:15:43in her name. However, we did buy the car
1:15:45for her. So if the car if there's any
1:15:48way to keep the car, we would very much
1:15:51like to do that.
1:15:52>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I I think I think at
1:15:54this juncture the I think at this
1:15:56juncture the detectives and don't quote
1:15:58me. I think the detectives are going to
1:16:00>> uh try to apply for a search warrant,
1:16:02see if a judge will honor a search
1:16:04warrant. If he or she does, then they
1:16:06would they would search the car and then
1:16:07they would search the contents of the
1:16:09phone.
1:16:10>> And you're more than welcome to do that.
1:16:12Absolutely. Yes. Um secondarily, I don't
1:16:14know if you anyight into this, but my
1:16:17husband did go to the property
1:16:18management uh place today to let them
1:16:21know what we're up against about getting
1:16:23her apartment cleaned out. And I was
1:16:27just wondering if you guys knew when the
1:16:29apartment would be released or opened up
1:16:32in order to clean out so that we can
1:16:34vacate the premises.
1:16:36>> Okay. I will try to find that out from
1:16:38the detectives uh ASAP and let you know
1:16:41probably tomorrow.
1:16:42>> That would be fantastic. Thank you for
1:16:44your help. You bet. Um, and you have my
1:16:47number. Your husband has my number. Um,
1:16:49I'm sorry for I've been talking to your
1:16:51husband most of the day about stuff.
1:16:52>> Yes.
1:16:53>> Um, so anyways,
1:16:54>> I just have one question and I don't
1:16:56know if you can answer it or not, but we
1:16:57were curious as to where you located
1:16:59her.
1:17:00>> We located her up on Highway 410.
1:17:04>> Okay. All right. Well, thank you for
1:17:06that information and we will probably be
1:17:09speaking with you tomorrow.
1:17:10>> Okay, ma'am. Thank you very much.
1:17:12>> I love you, Mom.
1:17:13>> Yep. See,
1:17:13>> I love you, Mom. I really do.
1:17:18>> Okay.
1:17:19>> Oh, I remember in the movie.
1:17:20>> Hang out for a little bit. Eat the rest
1:17:22of your food.
1:17:23>> How am I supposed to get the first
1:17:25fruit?
1:17:26>> That's not my issue. But um eat your
1:17:29cookies, eat your bread, drink your
1:17:31water, and uh once the documents are
1:17:34done, then we're going to take you over
1:17:35to the jail house. Okay. All right.
1:17:42Following the interrogation and the
1:17:44investigation that followed, prosecutors
1:17:46in Yakama County filed multiple felony
1:17:48[music] charges connected to the case.
1:17:50Court records show that Kyla Atole was
1:17:52charged in one case with firstdegree
1:17:54manslaughter, firstdegree criminal
1:17:56mistreatment, and family abandonment in
1:17:59connection [music] with the death of her
1:18:00young infant and the severe neglect of
1:18:02the surviving toddler. In a separate
1:18:04Yakama County Superior [music] Court
1:18:06case, she was also charged with animal
1:18:08cruelty. Investigators alleged that the
1:18:10charges stemmed from [music] an earlier
1:18:12incident involving two dogs at her
1:18:14residence. According to authorities, one
1:18:16dog, a German Shepherd, was found dead
1:18:19after suffering severe malnutrition,
1:18:21while a second dog, [music] a husky, was
1:18:23discovered severely emaciated and
1:18:25tangled in a leash at the property.
1:18:26[music]
1:18:28Tle entered not guilty p during her
1:18:30court appearances as the cases move
1:18:32forward through [music] Yakama County
1:18:33Superior Court. As of March 2026, the
1:18:37criminal cases against Kyla [music] Tole
1:18:39remain pending in Yakama County Superior
1:18:41Court. In the separate animal cruelty
1:18:43case, the court has scheduled a jury
1:18:45trial for June 1st, 2026 with a trial
1:18:48[music] confirmation hearing set for May
1:18:5022nd, 2026. The charges connected to the
1:18:54death of [music] the infant child and
1:18:55the condition of the surviving toddler
1:18:57are part of a different Yakama County
1:18:59case and the [music] final outcome of
1:19:01those allegations will ultimately be
1:19:02decided through the court process. If
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