Infant Found Dead, Toddler Starving | Kyleah Rose Interrogation Part 1 — Transcript
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- 0:00That was not that bad at all.
- 0:03>> My child was skinned but not like that.
- 0:05I have pictures.
- 0:06>> Explain how this can happen.
- 0:09>> Sure.
- 0:10>> While in your care.
- 0:11>> Disclaimer. This video is for commentary
- 0:13and educational purposes only. All
- 0:16individuals are presumed innocent until
- 0:18proven guilty in a court of law. Any
- 0:20footage used in this video is obtained
- 0:21through public records and falls under
- 0:23fair use for the purpose of reporting,
- 0:25analysis, and public interest. On the
- 0:28morning of February 25th, 2025, [music]
- 0:31Yakama police officers were called to a
- 0:33home for a welfare check involving two
- 0:35small children. Inside the residence,
- 0:38officers made a discovery that would
- 0:40immediately trigger a criminal
- 0:41investigation. An infant [music] was
- 0:43found dead inside the home. Nearby, a
- 0:46toddler was discovered alive, but
- 0:47severely malnourished and in critical
- 0:49condition. Authorities began searching
- 0:51for the children's mother, Kylia Tolay.
- 0:54Later that [music] day, investigators
- 0:56located Tlay at a campground and took
- 0:58her into custody. As detectives worked
- 1:00to piece together what had happened
- 1:02inside the home, the case quickly
- 1:04expanded into multiple felony [music]
- 1:05investigations in Yakama County. Hours
- 1:08later, Tolay was brought into an
- 1:09interrogation room where detectives
- 1:11began asking questions [music] about the
- 1:13events that led up to the discovery.
- 1:15This is the interrogation of Kyla Tole.
- 1:19>> Okay. So, before we get started and I
- 1:21talk a little bit, I'm going to read you
- 1:22your rights. Okay.
- 1:22>> Okay.
- 1:23>> Okay. Okay. You have the right to remain
- 1:24silent. You understand that?
- 1:27>> You have
- 1:29>> you have the right to an attorney at
- 1:30this time. Do you understand that?
- 1:34>> That's like attorney warrior can be.
- 1:36>> Mhm.
- 1:37>> I can get So, yeah.
- 1:38>> You understand that?
- 1:39>> Yeah.
- 1:39>> Okay. Anything you say can and will be
- 1:42used against you in the court of law. Do
- 1:43you understand that?
- 1:43>> Yeah.
- 1:44>> Okay.
- 1:46>> You have the right to an attorney before
- 1:47answering any questions.
- 1:49>> Yes.
- 1:49>> Do you understand that?
- 1:50>> Yes.
- 1:51>> Good. You have the right to attorney
- 1:52present during the questions closed. Do
- 1:54you understand that?
- 1:55>> Yeah.
- 1:57>> Why would I have an attorney like during
- 1:59or before I doubt?
- 2:01>> That's I feel a whole lot different.
- 2:05>> Okay.
- 2:05>> You know
- 2:07me. I don't know. I think better call
- 2:09Saul. You know, I don't care about any
- 2:12of that. I just want somebody to hold
- 2:14the top. So ask. If you cannot afford an
- 2:17attorney, one will be appointed for you
- 2:18without cost to you before or during
- 2:20question if you desire. Do you
- 2:22understand that?
- 2:23>> Oh, yeah.
- 2:25>> Do you understand each of these rights
- 2:26that I've explained to you?
- 2:27>> Mhm.
- 2:28>> Okay. Having those rights in mind, do
- 2:29you wish um to talk about what happened
- 2:31today?
- 2:32>> Yeah.
- 2:33>> Do you mind signing here real quick?
- 2:34>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:37>> Video just sign right there.
- 2:43>> I can't get my uh my hands
- 2:47And I think
- 2:50I couldn't even um notebook a lot.
- 2:54There's a lot of notebooks in the bag.
- 2:56>> Oh, yeah.
- 2:58[clears throat]
- 2:59>> Can't even write them.
- 3:00>> What's on the What's in the notebooks in
- 3:02the car?
- 3:02>> Oh, there's anything.
- 3:04>> Oh, you're just kind of like a doodler.
- 3:06>> No, I just write I just write everything
- 3:08that comes to my mind. Like there's
- 3:10there's notes like
- 3:12>> Did you write anything today?
- 3:17I can't I can't the few times that I've
- 3:22been talking to people I I I I say I get
- 3:27out but I can't if I were to try pen and
- 3:31paper I would too much I would go back
- 3:33to killing myself. So that's
- 3:36>> So tell me a little bit about yourself.
- 3:38>> Uh what do you want to know?
- 3:41>> Just about your kids your life.
- 3:43And
- 3:45I was addicted to bed and from like
- 3:4913th to
- 3:52when Blade died and his his thing is in
- 3:57the front seat need that little thingies
- 4:01in the back need that just get
- 4:04everything back in the car, right?
- 4:06>> You'll get everything back.
- 4:08[clears throat] So because of that,
- 4:12he died from a fentanyl overdose. So I
- 4:14stopped doing everything. And one of the
- 4:17last things that we ever talked about is
- 4:19now
- 4:21so I can have a baby
- 4:24cuz I really see being a mom is the
- 4:28ultimate like the ultimate thing to do
- 4:30in life. But also when you're 16, you
- 4:33don't understand like what it's like to
- 4:36be an adult. like you don't understand.
- 4:38But I I still do understand that that's
- 4:41like that's part of it. I wanted I
- 4:45wanted kids though. I could grow up with
- 4:48stuff.
- 4:50And um that's something me and my mom
- 4:54don't agree on is that grow up with them
- 4:56doesn't have to mean
- 5:01anything horrible. That's just like I
- 5:03was telling him like me and we go over
- 5:06to dinner and now yeah we come back at
- 5:0812:00 at night but they were sleeping
- 5:10from 8 to 12 like or 9 to 12 which is
- 5:15the drive back in the car seat it's
- 5:17happy. So it's like
- 5:20I much rather would have done that than
- 5:23when my mom like was like at me. So I
- 5:26was like fine I'll get a babysitter.
- 5:27I'll just go alone.
- 5:29I'll just get a babysitter and they'll
- 5:31stay home if
- 5:34No, I would give anything.
- 5:37No, it's my mom with that because she's
- 5:40very wise. But that's not for me. But
- 5:45by the end of the day,
- 5:49my memories of the best that I have are
- 5:53right there in the Facebook M and Julian
- 5:57and holding her and all of us being
- 6:00friends together like
- 6:03go out for a smoke break, come back,
- 6:05giggle with the baby. Like my friends
- 6:07just hide, but I'm holding my baby.
- 6:09Right. I think that is at the end of the
- 6:13day like
- 6:15what we were doing, what was working,
- 6:18when we were happy, we didn't have to
- 6:22switch up and like do everything. So to
- 6:27make my mom happy.
- 6:30>> So you mentioned um about your about
- 6:32your babies. Um,
- 6:34>> so I got I got sober
- 6:37the day that he died and I got pregnant
- 6:40a couple a month and a half after he
- 6:43died.
- 6:44>> Who did?
- 6:44>> Blaine.
- 6:45>> Blaine.
- 6:46>> Blaine. He He The only reason he's
- 6:49important to this story is because he's
- 6:51the one that I said I wanted kids, too.
- 6:53And I got sober for which brought me my
- 6:56kids.
- 6:57>> So, you mentioned your kids. Um, what
- 6:59are your kids' names?
- 7:00>> Uh, Hexa. H E X A D A
- 7:06Marlene Denise M A R L E N E D E N I E S
- 7:13E
- 7:14Paul T L
- 7:17What's the he
- 7:19>> uh 125 23
- 7:32R I
- 7:36R O S E was Ros.
- 7:41So her sister, hey
- 7:54both of those in between them is Marley
- 7:57and then Denise for my grandmother's
- 7:58name. Don't be my fault.
- 8:05>> Please
- 8:08it was it was supposed to be the 18th.
- 8:10So it was July.
- 8:13Oh, it was supposed to be 7:17.
- 8:15Sorry. 7:18
- 8:1720
- 8:204.
- 8:25>> Can you tell me a little bit about how
- 8:27they grew up?
- 8:28>> No, I was um with Lexi. I was pregnant.
- 8:33I was kind of like a teenager, but I was
- 8:36like a house house. I was I was 18 when
- 8:39I hired but just freshly because
- 8:41obviously the date. Um which I got
- 8:45married before that and then I ended up
- 8:47leaving my husband just because we were
- 8:49like we were just forcing it to like we
- 8:52got married at 17. It wasn't going to
- 8:54work. So it actually became illegal and
- 8:57they invalidated it. So not great. Um,
- 9:01but
- 9:02then we split up and we got back the
- 9:05baby dad
- 9:07>> that we thought was like, you know, I
- 9:10see that. So that's all complicated. I
- 9:13could it's easier to like draw it out,
- 9:16but I thought
- 9:18I thought Brock might be because I
- 9:20cheated on Jen with Brock like one time,
- 9:24then she comes out dark. Like I mean
- 9:27like like she comes out looking like me
- 9:29and the Jaden's a red head and Brock
- 9:32looks just like me kind of like guy
- 9:34virgin. So I was like, "Oh yeah, Rock's
- 9:36baby, you know that's not his baby." I'm
- 9:40like, "Okay, yeah, my jeans good." And
- 9:43so not his baby, but he took
- 9:46responsibility for it. So, we got
- 9:47together
- 9:49and we loved it, but we were we also
- 9:52just like we're really mean to each
- 9:54other back then. Uh I mentioned the
- 9:58rape. He raped me and another girl at
- 10:01the same time, which I went to the YWCA
- 10:03for eventually, but kept that to myself.
- 10:06Like, that's embarrassing. And I was
- 10:09really manipulated to the point where
- 10:11I've gotten back with him like multiple
- 10:12times after. I can still admit that he
- 10:15raped to me and still get back together
- 10:17with him. It's not good. So, I keep my
- 10:21life,
- 10:23but I like keeping it like reach, you
- 10:25know, but it's obviously different now
- 10:27that we have the girls, but we planned
- 10:30the baby.
- 10:32We tried. Well, it's didn't work. I
- 10:34thought it wasn't fertile. We have
- 10:37break. I get pregnant. Me and Chloe are
- 10:41friends. We're partying. drinking one
- 10:44day. Uh I might
- 10:46Jay I'm I'm not hung over and I'm
- 10:49throwing up.
- 10:51That's so bad. But
- 10:55uh I took a test and I was genuinely
- 10:59really scared like cuz me and him had
- 11:01just broken up and but that was that was
- 11:06>> you and Brock.
- 11:07>> Brock Brock R.
- 11:10>> Yeah.
- 11:10>> Okay. has a long ass laugh.
- 11:14But
- 11:16yeah, so tried tried tried and then
- 11:19nothing worked and then it was either
- 11:21breakup sex or out wasn't with him but
- 11:26it was like dad like our baby like you
- 11:29know what I mean? [clears throat]
- 11:31>> So we spent a few months apart. I was
- 11:34living my life like I started doing my
- 11:39stuff with modeling and I was like
- 11:42barely pregnant and we got back together
- 11:46was like a year ago today.
- 11:50Yeah, I think it was a year ago today
- 11:52because I saw that
- 11:55um I saw that on um my Google photos
- 11:58like you know how it shows like a year
- 11:59ago today and I uh I got offended by and
- 12:03then also a video of me and Chlo singing
- 12:04in the car. Um
- 12:07so
- 12:09>> tell me what what's it like what was it
- 12:12like being a mom for the first time
- 12:14first time? Oh my god, I I didn't know
- 12:17what I was doing at all.
- 12:20But Tim was just like I was like, "Oh my
- 12:22god, you're giving me this thing and I
- 12:24can learn it." Like,
- 12:26>> tell me more about that.
- 12:27>> Oh my god. So like
- 12:30I uh I went there with birth plan from
- 12:33hell.
- 12:35[cough]
- 12:36[clears throat] No no payment this like
- 12:40that. I have a C-section.
- 12:43Everything goes out the window. So I'm
- 12:45ripped open and I have this baby and I
- 12:48get given it. And so I'm just staying in
- 12:50bed with this baby all day long cuz he
- 12:51can't get up. Okay. It's the best thing
- 12:55ever. I did that. It was my second too,
- 12:57but I was Yeah, it was bad. But I just
- 13:00didn't get up just with my baby. I
- 13:03coslept. Big no. No. I do not give a Say
- 13:07that on record. I was a tired mom. I
- 13:09would much rather be a tired mom with my
- 13:11baby right next to me and I'm only
- 13:12getting half because I only checking on
- 13:15her than like just putting her in the
- 13:18other room. I waited until I was like um
- 13:21like
- 13:23I think four months to like give her her
- 13:26own room and that was just because me
- 13:27and Rock had broken up and I felt like
- 13:30she would she could handle it and I also
- 13:32just I I would invite guys to sleep over
- 13:35and I you're not going to do anything
- 13:36next to the baby but I just felt weird
- 13:38sleeping with someone next to me that
- 13:40wasn't him
- 13:42next to I don't know just guys can be
- 13:46perverts I would rather that chance to
- 13:49off.
- 13:49>> Yeah.
- 13:50>> So, um moved into my own room so that I
- 13:53could monitor that uh I did a couple
- 13:57guys
- 13:59and um like a big list but still I just
- 14:03wanted to be safe and
- 14:05>> so you mentioned and you [clears throat]
- 14:07mentioned co-sleeping with baby and you
- 14:08also mentioned that you know that that's
- 14:10not safe.
- 14:10>> Yeah.
- 14:11>> Who told you that's not safe?
- 14:12>> The hospital medical professional
- 14:14everyone.
- 14:15>> Everyone.
- 14:16>> Everyone. Um but
- 14:19my mom was berating me about one day and
- 14:21she called her and no
- 14:26like she's like I'm never doing that
- 14:28again but I love and as you can see so
- 14:33she got me a bedside bath.
- 14:37>> How how often would you co sleep with
- 14:38your kids?
- 14:39>> Every night any day. Um, like it was my
- 14:44favorite thing ever. I think she's
- 14:47autistic. Like me, she likes touching,
- 14:52but she like kind of you, but if you try
- 14:55over her, she don't like it.
- 14:57>> What were the What did the medical
- 14:59professionals tell you were the
- 15:00possibilities of coastal gains for
- 15:02babies? Um,
- 15:05so
- 15:07for all of the medical professionals,
- 15:09there is also a medical professional
- 15:11that will say that co- sleeping is okay
- 15:13and more natural and better. But some of
- 15:16the some of the the problems are baby
- 15:20can like fall into the bed and like get
- 15:23suffocated in the mattress and like a
- 15:24baby died that way. Babies can roll
- 15:26over. A baby died that way. A baby died
- 15:28this way. A baby died that way. A girl's
- 15:30boob was too big. It flopped over on the
- 15:31baby. The baby died. And that's why it's
- 15:33shed.
- 15:34Well, I don't have any of those
- 15:36problems. I made sure that those
- 15:38problems weren't going to be an issue.
- 15:40So, I mean me and my we would sleep and
- 15:43I would walk my foot. I don't remember
- 15:46exactly how I did it, but basically I
- 15:47would dislo. Okay, my pelvis if I tried
- 15:51to like go over on her [cough]
- 15:55along with my boyfriend, my brother
- 15:57would hold my body like this so I could
- 16:00hold her so that it like if I went like
- 16:02that, he could like be back like you
- 16:06know what I mean? Like at the end of the
- 16:08day,
- 16:09I do believe that like yes, safe sleep
- 16:12is important, but that doesn't also mean
- 16:15that sleeping safely isn't important.
- 16:18>> Okay.
- 16:19>> I was a I was a I was an extremely
- 16:24tired mom.
- 16:26>> Okay. And when you uh So, you obviously
- 16:28mentioned co sleeping in I was
- 16:31breastfeeding, too. So, you just boob
- 16:33out and then it's just so much easier.
- 16:35>> How long did you breastfeed? Uh, I
- 16:36breastfed up until
- 16:37>> Peach kid.
- 16:39>> I Well,
- 16:40>> so how long did you breast?
- 16:41>> I breastfed until
- 16:45three months because it just got tiring
- 16:47when we moved into a new apartment and I
- 16:50was just do my thing. I was like, let's
- 16:52do the formula. Um, and then for the
- 16:56rock, oh my god, porn addiction. So, um,
- 17:00I was looking through his phone one day
- 17:02and I found a bunch of like porn star
- 17:03snakes and then in the middle is just a
- 17:05picture of me breastfeeding and so I
- 17:07felt like awkward, but it was like weird
- 17:10because the time that he jerked off was
- 17:12like 5 minutes after I was
- 17:13breastfeeding. So, I know he went to the
- 17:14bathroom while I was breastfeeding
- 17:16because he thought I was too busy too
- 17:18and so that became a really like sore
- 17:20subject. So, because of that like we
- 17:23just I just stopped cuz I felt like
- 17:27maybe if that was breastfeeding
- 17:28>> Yeah. cuz I thought like maybe if that
- 17:30was a fetish I don't want to be in that
- 17:32like that's a wild outer thought but
- 17:34it's not too far when you see the cases
- 17:36and like I'm a very cons like concern
- 17:40like a girls go out and I do believe
- 17:42that girls wear certain types of clothes
- 17:45because like you know you protect your
- 17:47child it's not because your child
- 17:48shouldn't be a child it's because you
- 17:50protect your child
- 17:51>> you know and so like that was always
- 17:54like really important to me was modesty
- 17:56I didn't not him sexualizing me and her,
- 18:02you know.
- 18:02>> Yeah.
- 18:03>> So after you stopped breastfeeding, what
- 18:06what what did you move on to after that?
- 18:08>> We we do the same formula all the time.
- 18:10>> Okay. And so you went to Fort after how
- 18:13often would you make out the bottle?
- 18:16>> Was interesting. Uh obviously it changes
- 18:19month by month. Um, so like
- 18:26Oh my god, that was so long ago. Um,
- 18:32two years ago. Um,
- 18:35she started out with these like little
- 18:37stupid bottles and then she went to 4 oz
- 18:40bottles and then she went to the 8 oz
- 18:42bottles and then she went to the big 8
- 18:44oz bottles. She's going to hold yourself
- 18:46herself in it.
- 18:47>> When she got to the big 8 oz bottles,
- 18:49how many of those would you give her a
- 18:50day?
- 18:51>> Oh my god. Oh my god. So many.
- 18:58She was having like one every two hours.
- 19:00>> Okay.
- 19:00>> But a good eater. Like like good good
- 19:04eater. And I was in, you know, with
- 19:06Dipper. It was like give her bottles.
- 19:07I'm pumpkin spice. And I'm like, you
- 19:10guys might know my like pumpkin spice.
- 19:12So when did you start when did when did
- 19:14you start moving into like you're not
- 19:15>> supposed to do that
- 19:16>> a liquid diet and then into an actual
- 19:18>> liquid to the transitional from like
- 19:22anywhere. Okay. So I gave her like baby
- 19:25puree to like 3 months old.
- 19:28>> Okay. But also at the same time like
- 19:30that's just mango. Like that's just
- 19:32mango. You can add it to their bottle.
- 19:34You're not supposed to. To some
- 19:35pediatricians to some you can. But it's
- 19:38not that big.
- 19:40you know.
- 19:40>> Yeah. [cough and clears throat]
- 19:46>> And um I tried that with She doesn't
- 19:49like the the oatmeal. I don't like
- 19:52>> And how so let's go on to when how long
- 19:56did you breastfeed her?
- 19:58>> I say I like too much.
- 19:59>> 3 months is more.
- 20:00>> Okay.
- 20:03>> Uh
- 20:03>> and then what did you move on to after
- 20:06that?
- 20:06>> Same formula. The same formula. What
- 20:08formula is that?
- 20:09>> Purple narrow something. I don't know.
- 20:11It's just a purple simuli. Like legit
- 20:14every mom. You don't know the name. It's
- 20:16just the purple purple and purple
- 20:18simuli. Yellow. Yellow simul.
- 20:21>> And you said you were breastfed. You
- 20:22breast breastfed her for about 3 months.
- 20:25>> Yeah.
- 20:26>> Okay. And then you went on to formula.
- 20:28>> Yeah.
- 20:28>> Okay. Um, how many
- 20:31>> it was less than that?
- 20:34Like two.
- 20:35>> Okay.
- 20:36How many uh bottles of formula would
- 20:38>> Oh my god. So the four
- 20:40>> So like it started out with the 4 oz
- 20:42bottles and then it moved to a 8 oz or
- 20:46no
- 20:484 oz bottles
- 20:50drinking consistently four. So I moved
- 20:53it to five and she was constantly eating
- 20:56like five, leaving maybe like just a
- 20:59little bit at the bottom, you know, like
- 21:00I would just leave a little bit at the
- 21:02bottom because I would want to make sure
- 21:04that it was like full. Then one day I
- 21:07made her
- 21:09and giggles honestly cuz when you're a
- 21:11mom you do things like this. I made her
- 21:14an 8 oz bottle
- 21:17all of it. So, we just moved on to 8 oz
- 21:20bottles and uh it works easier for me
- 21:22because it's easier to make. Like you
- 21:24don't have to like measure it. Just
- 21:27like it's easy and so I prefer doing
- 21:30that. So, she got 8 oz bottles a day at
- 21:33like four months old like 5 months, not
- 21:35five months old. And um
- 21:40and [clears throat] that was I have a
- 21:41baby br some but I could make the
- 21:43bottles and
- 21:45um she ate
- 21:49a lot like
- 21:51>> at what point did did have have you um
- 21:54>> I sweet trained them too. So they split
- 21:56through the night from like 8:00 to uh
- 21:59even my parents then
- 22:02like 8:00 at night till 8:00 in the
- 22:05morning. 9:00 in the morning. I'm living
- 22:08my best life. My kids go to sleep.
- 22:12I have parties for a couple hours. I go
- 22:15to sleep. Like my version of party, by
- 22:17the way, is like like I would smoke some
- 22:20weed. I would like watch movies, play
- 22:23Call of Duty, like just that you don't
- 22:25normally do like when you're a baby.
- 22:27>> Mhm.
- 22:27>> It was great. Like like I only found
- 22:31that was during that time too. It really
- 22:34works out good.
- 22:37>> Um, let's go back real quick. When did
- 22:39you uh how did
- 22:41>> they don't they don't eat balls to the
- 22:42night.
- 22:43>> Okay. But are you eating solid foods
- 22:46already?
- 22:47>> M she was
- 22:50she was dabbling with it. So I would I
- 22:53would try the the oatmeal. She don't
- 22:55like the oatmeal. So I Hy liked the
- 22:57oatmeal with pumpkin spice and pumpkin
- 23:00puree. So I make her pumpkin spice
- 23:03lattes, you know, lattes, you know.
- 23:06>> Were you the only one inside the
- 23:07residence? Were you the only one living
- 23:09there?
- 23:09>> Um, so I was living there, but my friend
- 23:11would also stay over whenever I would
- 23:13need her to come wash my baby because my
- 23:15mom started
- 23:18KK
- 23:20and I ended up
- 23:24this time. And so I trusted that pretty
- 23:28much. And so like you know like you
- 23:31think you know a person you think you
- 23:32trapped a person you know like
- 23:36I really did and I mean there there's
- 23:39there problems with her that I should
- 23:41have like watched out for which I do
- 23:44blame myself for.
- 23:46>> Do you think it was possible for
- 23:49to feed themselves? Oh. Um,
- 23:53um,
- 23:58she was starting to like
- 24:00starting to hold her bottle
- 24:03like she was a preeie a couple months
- 24:06early. So, but she was she was getting
- 24:08her back straight. We were working on
- 24:10that. She couldn't eat sitting off. So,
- 24:14we're down in my lab.
- 24:15>> Who would make her bottle? Were you the
- 24:17only one that would make her bottle?
- 24:18>> Okay. Well, me and Rob were together.
- 24:21So, we have like I don't know. Ross says
- 24:24he does everything, but I was pumping.
- 24:26So, like what's he making? Like, oh my
- 24:29god. And now I think about so stupid.
- 24:31Uh, but we started formula and that's
- 24:34his like four things and
- 24:37like so yeah, he would do it. Um,
- 24:42but then obviously like he leaves so
- 24:43like who else is going to make the
- 24:45bottle like me, you know? So, um, at the
- 24:50time it was, it's really, it actually is
- 24:52really easy cuz the, um,
- 24:55>> make her own bottles.
- 24:58>> Make her own eat her own bottles. I
- 25:00meant eat like eat them on her like
- 25:03Yeah.
- 25:04>> She wasn't physically making the
- 25:05bottles.
- 25:06>> No. No. Um, but I mean I know them. And
- 25:12you have to get the big ass gallon of
- 25:14whole milk. Put that in there. And I am.
- 25:18I could try, but just for my own mental
- 25:20health, I'm not going to get my kitchen
- 25:23all messy just to like have her do one
- 25:26thing on her own. Like, you know what I
- 25:28mean? At one point in time, like Yeah.
- 25:32But then the house got so bad with
- 25:35people and that like just not respecting
- 25:38the space. Just like when Melly would
- 25:40like hang out with Julian
- 25:43uh before they moved, they hadn't ever
- 25:45had their own house. I'm sorry. That's
- 25:47so weird. I just mess with things, but
- 25:49it's fine. You're
- 25:49>> okay.
- 25:50>> Um, but they had never had their own
- 25:52house. So, there were like these punky
- 25:53ass teenagers coming to my house. Like
- 25:55Julian dropped like a thing of mad do
- 25:57one time. And um I remember he um he
- 26:01just on the floor and I was like I I
- 26:06smacked him on the back of the head. I
- 26:07was like clean that up. No, kids weren't
- 26:09around but clean up. And so he learned
- 26:12how to like clean up. And so I I taught
- 26:15him that for I was like Steve that's how
- 26:18you do it. Uh, and so they they're like
- 26:22that and then it got really exhausting
- 26:24cuz obviously spent I spent like 30
- 26:29minutes every time before they would
- 26:30come over like trying to get like for
- 26:32them like you know like not even going
- 26:35to lie it's kind of weird but like they
- 26:37would want so like I would get the cute
- 26:39like the couch all cute so they would
- 26:41sleep right there and then I put my my
- 26:43little thingy right there be like guys
- 26:46stay quiet I sleep on this side sleep on
- 26:48that went to the kids obviously like I
- 26:51did things like that that obviously like
- 26:54you put in time you put like he things
- 26:56like you put waterproof m like pat down
- 26:59like
- 27:01it's it takes a little bit of time and
- 27:03then just to have them come and rams
- 27:05like that it's like you didn't even see
- 27:07the waterproof mattress like you didn't
- 27:09appreciate it you just kind of like do
- 27:11stuff on it so that just really
- 27:13exhausting
- 27:15um and so it just kind of got really
- 27:18messy
- 27:19And then um Derek had
- 27:24another call on him was getting really
- 27:26messy too. So I kicked them out.
- 27:29And um so like at that point in time's
- 27:34like all clean. Yeah. Go ahead. Make
- 27:37your own bottle, sweetheart. But I am
- 27:39going to put in like a cup like that and
- 27:41I'm going to have her put in the thing.
- 27:44Like I'm not going to waste a whole
- 27:45gallon of milk if she drops it.
- 27:48It's $4 a thing. Like, it's not that
- 27:51much, but you know, it's $4 a thing.
- 27:54>> So, you mentioned earlier that they
- 27:56usually they'll so sleep from 8:00 p.m.
- 27:59to 8:00 a.m.
- 28:00>> Okay. And you mentioned
- 28:01>> no bottles.
- 28:02>> What is that?
- 28:02>> No bottles.
- 28:04>> Yep. And you
- 28:05>> you you mentioned during that time after
- 28:07that that you like to party and do your
- 28:09own things. Tell me a little bit more
- 28:11about that. So, I was just like I I
- 28:14remember
- 28:17during the time that me and Brock were
- 28:19figuring out as I had said figuring out
- 28:22our um
- 28:26drinking he abuses me habits. I would
- 28:29like drink some twisted teas but I get
- 28:31like I get like above like two.
- 28:35So then he sees that and kills me like
- 28:37four, five, six, seven. And so I began a
- 28:42thing where he would like cheat on like
- 28:45not cheat on me but like he would make
- 28:46me watch him watch porn like tie me up,
- 28:50leave me crying like I'm not okay like
- 28:53after that. So I would get to the point
- 28:55where I would like run down the like run
- 28:57down the street like one day I didn't
- 28:59have pants on public. I'm so sorry. I
- 29:01was trying to get away from it. Uh, so I
- 29:03hid behind the church and that was the
- 29:05point where I was like, drinking isn't
- 29:08fun, so we're not going to drink. So
- 29:10I've always been a stoner throughout all
- 29:12this, like throughout all of it. Stoner,
- 29:15stoner, stoner, stoner, because when I
- 29:17was pregnant, that's when I started
- 29:20because I couldn't eat. So I was
- 29:23bleeding. I was having a I was I thought
- 29:25I was having a miscarriage and my
- 29:27boyfriend was like just say because I
- 29:28wasn't eating. I was puking up
- 29:30everything. My boyfriend was like, "Try
- 29:32that."
- 29:34We're stupid. Okay. I'm 16. I lie. I
- 29:37drive the dab. I haven't done it before.
- 29:40And I got hungry and I could cube it
- 29:42down and I felt like I was like
- 29:43benefiting my baby. Like it tell me that
- 29:46if I'm eating that doesn't like almost
- 29:48cancel out.
- 29:50>> Yeah.
- 29:50>> Cuz I'm not bleeding anymore because I'm
- 29:52not starving. Like I'm not like I'm like
- 29:56I was skinnier than I am now and I was
- 29:58pregnant.
- 29:59that's not okay. And so I mean I I guess
- 30:02that's myself obviously because that's
- 30:04not something that you should promote.
- 30:07But it was working for me and like some
- 30:11of my friends have done that too and so
- 30:13I would ask them like what what the pros
- 30:15and cons and honestly
- 30:18was a baby miscarriage.
- 30:22So that outweighs everything right.
- 30:26uh after you go to the hospital again
- 30:28and again and again and they give you
- 30:32just
- 30:35you know it yeah and then they mentioned
- 30:39an abortion just because I couldn't keep
- 30:42that thing down so I was like no this
- 30:44I'm smoking so I stayed still all of it
- 30:47I got back when I was breastfeeding
- 30:50but uh
- 30:52you know I still have to eat
- 30:54>> is this for your pregnancy
- 30:56for okay but with I was already pretty
- 31:00before like as I said I woke up I was
- 31:02like I'm not hung over guys something's
- 31:04wrong and then we tried and I just knew
- 31:08that like just keeping it I my body so I
- 31:10tried to stop but then I still had the
- 31:12same thing so I wasn't going to push it
- 31:14I wasn't going to push it I knew what
- 31:16worked I tried the medications I gave
- 31:19them another time but I didn't like I
- 31:21give it two weeks I gave three days I've
- 31:24been pregnant before like you know.
- 31:26>> Mhm.
- 31:27>> Like so
- 31:30it just worked. All right. And then
- 31:32afterwards like my boyfriend was smoking
- 31:35like so much. So I didn't really smoke
- 31:38but he did. So he would get stoned and
- 31:41then I would be kind of with baby be
- 31:43like go do that, go do that, go do that
- 31:45and his phone go. So now he likes to
- 31:48complain that I made him do a lot of
- 31:49stuff but back then wasn't happy doing.
- 31:52sad. Yeah.
- 31:54>> So, you also me you mentioned just a
- 31:55little while ago about you left the
- 31:57house for a period of time while your
- 31:58kids were sleeping. Um, what's the
- 32:00longest you think you've ever
- 32:04>> Where with Rock?
- 32:06>> So, Rock was there?
- 32:07>> Yeah. Okay.
- 32:08>> So, Rock was at the house. So, because I
- 32:10know you have to stay there. So, I run.
- 32:14What are you going to do? Leave the
- 32:15kids? No, you're not. No, you're not.
- 32:18I'll you. So, I run down the street and
- 32:21I'm safe. Okay, I'm safe. I'm just
- 32:24having a moment and I'm crying to myself
- 32:26and come back. Like that's not bad at
- 32:29all. And that's after I was
- 32:31breastfeeding because you're not going
- 32:32to drink and breastfeed. That's one
- 32:33thing I would not do. Smoke and
- 32:34breastfeed kind of just because you
- 32:36probably still try to regulate from the
- 32:40hormones and stuff. And then uh they
- 32:41gave me oxycodone and it was putting my
- 32:44baby to see and so I was like let's just
- 32:47try
- 32:48>> and she she was fine.
- 32:50Um, tell me a little bit more about your
- 32:52kids. Um, when's the last time they went
- 32:54to go see a doctor?
- 32:56>> Um, it took
- 32:59um
- 33:03[snorts] it was 6 months fixes to a year
- 33:08and that was
- 33:11back in January. So, we're really not
- 33:14frequent. So um at the first start it
- 33:19was weekly because chair was supreme but
- 33:21for hex it was like
- 33:24I'm learning my baby I'm going to take
- 33:26my baby in every time it coughs you know
- 33:29like I do have to take it in every time
- 33:32it's hacky
- 33:34I'm not going to bring my baby in the
- 33:36[ __ ] dog you're wasting your time
- 33:39you're wasting my time I know that I'm
- 33:40just a concerned mom you know the first
- 33:44time I was like scared. I was like, she
- 33:46was here with a little the second time,
- 33:49you know, it's like it's like, oh my
- 33:50god, I actually did that. Okay, well,
- 33:53let's boo feed her some more and then
- 33:54it'll go away.
- 33:56>> During their checkups, the king
- 33:59>> there was the scales were like so hex
- 34:02was under
- 34:04I don't know, they have their charts,
- 34:06but they were like steadily growing.
- 34:09>> And did the doctors mention anything
- 34:11about their health during their
- 34:12checkups?
- 34:14>> Good. Okay. And uh you mentioned the
- 34:16charts in their charts.
- 34:18>> Yeah.
- 34:18>> Um do you know do you remember off the
- 34:20top of your head I guess like the
- 34:22percentile?
- 34:22>> That's so stupid. I'm not going to
- 34:24percentize my child. She's perfect the
- 34:26way she is.
- 34:28>> But I think trying to say over my kid
- 34:33fat like
- 34:34>> she's cute.
- 34:37And then Sherry had a bit but she was
- 34:39like overweight. I was like no she the
- 34:43is not. And where did you where were
- 34:45they going?
- 34:45>> Richard Edley.
- 34:46>> Dr. Who?
- 34:47>> Richard Edgerly at insurance healthcare.
- 34:50He's been my doctor since I was a baby.
- 34:54Only natural.
- 34:55>> What's the place again?
- 34:57>> Assurance healthcare center.
- 35:00>> Um, but he started to burn because
- 35:02personally with no vaccination and he
- 35:06keeps up with that.
- 35:08>> You can vaccinate. You cannot vaccinate.
- 35:10It's not bad to do either one of those
- 35:12things. But we chose to not. So our
- 35:15doctor was very supportive and our the
- 35:18babies were growing. So they don't need
- 35:21those like they don't need them like you
- 35:25know
- 35:25>> and it might be needed for today to get
- 35:28them sick so that they can just get over
- 35:30with. But I don't know.
- 35:33>> Okay.
- 35:33>> You know like I wasn't vaccinated so I'm
- 35:37going off of that like crunchy barefoot.
- 35:40Like
- 35:41I don't care. like I'm really healthy. I
- 35:45mean besides the throat cancer but you
- 35:48know
- 35:48>> most recently how would you say the
- 35:50health of
- 35:53>> um
- 35:54>> we got sick
- 35:57like two like
- 36:00it's been like two weeks two and 3 weeks
- 36:03for me at least where I'm just like
- 36:07no
- 36:09[clears throat]
- 36:12my bad
- 36:14but [clears throat]
- 36:16I thought that I have throat cancer
- 36:18brilliant 6 months
- 36:21gain weight. I'll drop weight and down
- 36:23like
- 36:26that and it's not normal like like
- 36:29that's not normal. So there was a little
- 36:32things I felt like a lump on my neck
- 36:35like things like that like my sinuses
- 36:37aren't working right.
- 36:38>> What about your kids?
- 36:40Oh, well, I was just saying like for me,
- 36:42so I didn't really notice when I got
- 36:44sick and it feels like way longer, but
- 36:51[cough] I got a lot. So, I try to do
- 36:53like cherry for cherry like
- 36:57there.
- 37:01[clears throat]
- 37:02[cough] You have water. So, like
- 37:04>> you have water or do you need more? I
- 37:05>> have milk. Okay.
- 37:09it whatever is in there. It's not like
- 37:13it's not dry. It's something that's in
- 37:15there. It's stitch like right on the
- 37:17front. So, I just kind of all the time I
- 37:21always feel like I need to cough even if
- 37:23I don't need to. Like right now, [cough]
- 37:27I [clears throat] still feel like I need
- 37:28to. It's just something that I hold back
- 37:30doing if that makes sense. That's why I
- 37:32thought I had cancer is because there's
- 37:33something there that I can cough
- 37:36whenever I want. like I'm constantly
- 37:39like going like that to stop it like you
- 37:41know. So I I didn't really notice when I
- 37:44got sick but Hy goes
- 37:49and I realized she's sick and so I
- 37:53they're going
- 37:56>> when you realized that did you take her
- 37:57to the hospital at all the doctor?
- 38:00>> It's a common cold.
- 38:02>> Okay. It might
- 38:03>> earlier you had mentioned if you heard a
- 38:06hacking you would take him in but if it
- 38:07was
- 38:08>> okay but no I mean like a little bit
- 38:10like you would take him home to the
- 38:12hospital okay you hear go
- 38:16oh my god for the first time I can take
- 38:18it I'm not that way
- 38:22[cough]
- 38:22>> I [clears throat] know when it's a
- 38:24common cold I'm going to get too bad
- 38:29some water
- 38:30>> I'm going to get you some
- 38:32[clears throat] It doesn't go away.
- 38:35Let me prove it. Um I love being right.
- 38:39I agree. Um but the the whole thing is
- 38:43like okay they have they're unvaccinated
- 38:45so they have to build their own
- 38:46antibodies instead of getting them
- 38:48through the vaccination.
- 38:49>> So they haven't had any vaccin
- 38:54vitamin K shop. Okay.
- 38:56>> But no that is not my wish for them.
- 39:00Okay.
- 39:01>> And so other than the vitamin K shot,
- 39:02they haven't received any other shots.
- 39:03And my my mom's on board with that. My
- 39:05dad's on board with that. My mom has
- 39:07received any other shots.
- 39:09>> No,
- 39:10>> just vitamin K.
- 39:13>> And they No, they tried to get and every
- 39:17time I would wake up, I no
- 39:21has never had anyations.
- 39:24>> No.
- 39:27[clears throat]
- 39:28>> [cough]
- 39:31>> Tell me that's not weird.
- 39:32>> What?
- 39:33>> Just cotton in there.
- 39:34>> I've had it before. I've had it where
- 39:36it's just a
- 39:37>> It's a smoke.
- 39:38>> Yeah, it just keeps going and going. I
- 39:40don't know why [clears throat] it is
- 39:40either. I don't know.
- 39:41>> It's like a hair stuck in your throat
- 39:43and it just keeps going. You keep
- 39:44coughing.
- 39:45>> No, it feels like an extreme weight like
- 39:48right here.
- 39:50>> So,
- 39:52I think but we're going I'm going to the
- 39:55doctor for that. So most recently I went
- 39:57to the doctor and he explained the
- 39:59symptoms and cherry's having some
- 40:02problems with like gives her a right. I
- 40:04mean I don't know. So I was thinking
- 40:06that you know like
- 40:09they're kids they get snotty as it's
- 40:13disgusting. You love it but it's
- 40:15disgusting.
- 40:21At any point during um motherhood, have
- 40:24you been in contact at all with any
- 40:25resources? CPA, have you ever contact
- 40:27talked to CPS or anything like that?
- 40:29>> Yeah.
- 40:30>> So, CPS has come and like the house me
- 40:33with the kids or Aby's and they they
- 40:39>> do you know
- 40:40>> each kid like two times each kid. You
- 40:42could ask them for that. They have it.
- 40:44>> Um
- 40:45>> and during those times, what did they
- 40:46tell you? One of them was because rock
- 40:48raped me and that was very well known.
- 40:50>> Okay.
- 40:52>> And you know like it's a messy house.
- 40:54It's happy kids messy house but the end
- 40:57of the day the room was okay. Like the I
- 41:01have pictures the room and
- 41:04you know like at the end of the day I
- 41:07needed to be taken care of taken care
- 41:09of. Like so what if my underwear is all
- 41:10over the floor like they're going to get
- 41:12like you know what I mean? So during
- 41:14that time, did they um take your kids
- 41:17from you? Did they?
- 41:18>> Um so they placed it um he had to when I
- 41:21was pregnant
- 41:25with my mom and then like me and Rock
- 41:27broke up the last time
- 41:30because of his port addiction and how
- 41:33advanced that was and like that like the
- 41:36we got into that. Uh I was just a little
- 41:40traumatized. I wanted a break and I
- 41:41didn't want to have a break yet. My
- 41:43parents stayed up for like two weeks.
- 41:46Um, and then I had some problems with my
- 41:49health again when we thought I had
- 41:51cancer or not when when I thought I had
- 41:54cancer. I tried to get Rob to come back
- 41:56to watch the kids
- 41:59even though at the time I was with
- 42:01Sawyer. I just tried to get like exactly
- 42:04at the time I was with Sawyer but I
- 42:05tried to get Ro to come back. Thank you.
- 42:08>> Mhm.
- 42:08>> To say, "Oh, take care of the kid till
- 42:10then. That's your kid." But he was like,
- 42:11"Terry's not mine."
- 42:14Okay, Jerry's not yours, but it was
- 42:16yours every day until I had her every
- 42:18day after I had her. But now it's just
- 42:20not yours. Now that you're gone and
- 42:22you're a new is not your baby, you're
- 42:25not gonna, you know, that's why I was
- 42:27getting mad at uh Chloe today is because
- 42:30like you're not going to support my baby
- 42:34that living to go do whatever he wants,
- 42:38whatever, whoever, right? Like you're
- 42:41not going to do that and then turn
- 42:43around and you're not going to yell at
- 42:46me for getting a babysitter so that I
- 42:48can do the same thing lightly. Like, you
- 42:51know what I mean? At the end of the day,
- 42:53I'm taking care of the kid off of
- 42:57Montana.
- 42:58Okay. I'm at least doing something and
- 43:01I'm not claiming dad still milk without
- 43:04the like taking care of it. But he like
- 43:07catch [ __ ] by still. Okay. But you
- 43:10don't you want to prove that your baby
- 43:12is not your baby?
- 43:14>> Can you tell me what happened the week
- 43:16leading up to today? What the hell are
- 43:18you putting up today?
- 43:21By day by day.
- 43:22>> Just whatever you can remember.
- 43:24>> The
- 43:26is the only thing that's sticking is a
- 43:28really traumatizing part start to
- 43:29finish.
- 43:31>> So,
- 43:33uh, we're having fun, right?
- 43:35>> We're
- 43:38all separate places. So, Mel's really in
- 43:40there
- 43:42and I think like Yeah. Come on. Um,
- 43:46[snorts] I mean, I'm sorry. Uh, yeah,
- 43:49but I'm in a club.
- 43:50>> When is this?
- 43:51>> When are you starting?
- 43:52>> This is like 4 days ago.
- 43:53>> 4 days.
- 43:53>> Okay. Wait, let me
- 43:56>> 4 days ago.
- 43:57>> I'm not Don't stick.
- 44:01>> I'm trying to go by day by day so that I
- 44:02can think of it.
- 44:03>> Of course. Go for it.
- 44:04>> So, it leads up
- 44:05>> cuz jail is like
- 44:08that counts like for 5 days for me in my
- 44:10head.
- 44:11>> So,
- 44:11>> okay.
- 44:12>> I'm listening.
- 44:14They have the miscarriage. I go over
- 44:17I hang out with Emma who me to make a
- 44:20basket. That takes a whole day and she
- 44:24ask me like, "Can I can I get your stem
- 44:27cells?" I was like, "Yes, yes, let's
- 44:29just go to the mall. Let's just go to
- 44:30the mall. Take my stem cells if that's
- 44:32what it takes to get you to the mall."
- 44:33So, I have to see.
- 44:36Probably not. I actually know she's
- 44:38dying. You know,
- 44:41>> I might be dying.
- 44:42>> Yeah.
- 44:45She has leukemia and she needs the stem
- 44:47cells. So, I was just going to see cuz
- 44:48like if they if there aren't the right
- 44:50stem cells, then that's literally like
- 44:52God saying like, okay, and if I don't
- 44:54have the right stem cells, then I feel
- 44:55like, oh my god, guys, do any of you
- 44:57guys want to experience like donating
- 44:59stem cells cuz it's not that it's not
- 45:01that intensive. Okay. Everybody has to
- 45:04do stuff like not for the plot but you
- 45:07know what I mean for the life.
- 45:08>> Like okay if I never donate stem cells
- 45:12to her then I I'll never donate stem
- 45:14cells. You know like you give me a once
- 45:16in a lifetime opportunity. I take it. So
- 45:21and she just goes on one thing after
- 45:23another thing. I don't can't take her
- 45:25anywhere. Like we spent $5 but it was
- 45:28not $5. It was $5. We spent like five
- 45:31hours to Taco Bell. Like it was bad.
- 45:33Like just because we're girls, we're
- 45:35talk talk. So I intentionally don't
- 45:38bring my kids and I I I left them at
- 45:40home with K because
- 45:42>> And this was 4 days ago.
- 45:44>> Yes.
- 45:47>> Put it day by day. Just put it day by
- 45:50day. Like I don't know if that makes
- 45:52sense. They go like choo.
- 45:55And that's the first one. That's the
- 45:56first one. First day, Taco Bell left
- 45:58your kids with you doing all that and
- 46:00I'm like, Emma, Emma, I have to go home.
- 46:05Okay. I can't keep pushing that. I can't
- 46:07keep. So, we get all and
- 46:10>> are we on day two now or we still Well,
- 46:14day I say day one,
- 46:16like for my day, like wake up, go to
- 46:18sleep.
- 46:19>> Yep. Yep. That's my day two.
- 46:22>> Yeah. But like it like this drags on
- 46:24until like 5:00 in the morning which is
- 46:26normal.
- 46:27>> Got it.
- 46:27>> But I that's my day. I go to sleep.
- 46:30>> Sleep and wake up counts as one of your
- 46:31days.
- 46:32>> Yeah. So
- 46:33>> um basically I had Desire with me cuz I
- 46:36took her to say she saw her cuz my
- 46:39ex-boyfriend but she's dating him now.
- 46:40And that's Mal's best friend. And my
- 46:42friend Mal had a miscarriage. So I'm not
- 46:43going to be like no I'm not bringing
- 46:46your friend just because she's dating my
- 46:48ex. So, I figure
- 46:51it touches us and my ex Kinder, right?
- 46:57Uh, we didn't get a chance like to hang
- 47:00out like we're friends. Like, we're
- 47:02homies. Like, we're cool as
- 47:06they're kind of like [laughter]
- 47:07like when she does something stupid. So,
- 47:10it's like it's like funny. It's like it
- 47:12it's the perfect ass. So, I bring him.
- 47:17And so, that night
- 47:19Um, we've been driving, driving, driving
- 47:21driving, driving driving, but we almost
- 47:22run out of gas.
- 47:25[clears throat] So, I'm like, that's
- 47:26>> Did you tell me where this was?
- 47:29>> Oh, so we went to try. Yeah, we went to
- 47:31Tri Cities for this around Tri Cities.
- 47:34Like, obviously, like I drive my car
- 47:37sometimes like stupid. Um, so me and
- 47:40Emma, she had like a she had a BMW, but
- 47:43so you can't do that with kids in the
- 47:45car. So, I wasn't gonna be my kids
- 47:47either because like if I know that I'm
- 47:48gonna see somebody who's gonna be like,
- 47:51"Let's go with your car." I'm not gonna
- 47:54be my kids cuz like what if they crash
- 47:56me but I've already had car crash. I
- 47:59don't want to do that again. Uh and I
- 48:01drive very differently now than I did
- 48:03then. So, I had that supposed to come
- 48:07back that night. in the game. They're
- 48:10out of gas and I'm pulled over at the uh
- 48:16cow town. Pass it off. Uh
- 48:20>> no,
- 48:23>> you say
- 48:24>> pasta.
- 48:26>> Pro. Yeah. The Denley Hotels. That's how
- 48:29I know them.
- 48:30>> The what hotels?
- 48:31>> The Denley hotels. The best Western
- 48:33Denley's. That's the the Protown.
- 48:38Um, so I pull over and I'm like, "Guys,
- 48:42we I saw some blue pictures in the
- 48:44morning. I'm tired." And we're all tired
- 48:47because we've been dealing with Emma.
- 48:52So
- 48:54me and Kendrick sleep in the back of the
- 48:55car, kind of, you know,
- 48:59my sleeps in the front and we're just
- 49:03like, we're all doing our own little
- 49:05things. like the car might get cold, but
- 49:07I had blankets. Like we were okay. Uh
- 49:09and there were so many of us that it
- 49:11stayed warm. Like it was warm when we
- 49:13woke up. So um we drove back and got
- 49:18home and then uh what was it?
- 49:27I had something to do that day. Oh yeah.
- 49:30So, I went to my doctor's appointment
- 49:34and my kids are sick. So, they go
- 49:38with my friend
- 49:40to go cruise around, right?
- 49:43>> Your kids do.
- 49:44>> Yeah. So, we switch the car and then
- 49:48Sophie runs around.
- 49:49>> What friend?
- 49:50>> So,
- 49:51>> Zoe.
- 49:52>> Sophie.
- 49:53>> Sophie.
- 49:56>> Sophie has your kids.
- 49:58That's so that's aunt Sophie. My name is
- 50:00>> Sophie.
- 50:01>> Aunt Sophie
- 50:02>> that you know like we're like best
- 50:04friends. So that's aunt.
- 50:06>> Auntie, but she's black. So obviously
- 50:09not aunt.
- 50:10>> What's Sophie's last name?
- 50:11>> V. Uh not Vargas. Cunningham.
- 50:14>> Cutting down.
- 50:16>> So
- 50:16>> is she live here?
- 50:17>> Yeah.
- 50:18>> Do you know Rather spin?
- 50:21>> No, she was a boyfriend. I don't know
- 50:23that one. Uh and it's a boyfriend, so I
- 50:26don't keep track of it. But she got a
- 50:27regular boyfriend cuz we have that thing
- 50:30like she was petted on. I watched her
- 50:33get petted on. So that's why we have
- 50:35that good relationship with
- 50:37>> What? When was this that
- 50:39>> was prison? Um,
- 50:41>> do you know what that was?
- 50:44>> That was the thing I got back from I
- 50:46said take it day by day by day by day.
- 50:49>> Uhhuh. So
- 50:49>> that was I have it I would have on my
- 50:51phone. I would have all of this trash
- 50:54better on my phone if I could have my
- 50:55phone. all this information on where you
- 50:57were and stuff.
- 50:58>> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because like you
- 51:00know and me. Um
- 51:02>> and where did you say your phone was?
- 51:04>> Front. I need it. I need it. Need it.
- 51:07Need it.
- 51:08>> Um
- 51:11but you know I need this symptoms. He's
- 51:16like yeah that's a common cold and it's
- 51:19going to be annoying but keep cold
- 51:20medicine. So I had like the baby the
- 51:23baby tablets.
- 51:25It worked wonders with taxi. So I need
- 51:28to
- 51:30make like four. I give her like two.
- 51:32That's it. I to the label guys. I go to
- 51:36the label cuz
- 51:39she's like, "Oh my god, they're real
- 51:40pill poppers. They're taking for
- 51:44the kind of fun that we have with our
- 51:45friends that my mom is like, oh my god,
- 51:48she's going to now take pill pop." No,
- 51:50we're just making a joke.
- 51:52>> What kind of pills were they?
- 51:53>> Right. Baby cough tablets.
- 51:57>> And where'd you get those at?
- 51:58>> Uh Walmart. Best thing ever. They also
- 52:01make teething tablets.
- 52:03>> And when did you go get those?
- 52:05>> Oh my god. I had them in.
- 52:10I bought like four cuz I thought they
- 52:12were going to go by faster, but there's
- 52:14like 150 in each one. So you four at a
- 52:17time. Like that's if they work, they're
- 52:20not supposed to be sick a lot.
- 52:22>> Okay. And when when was the last time
- 52:24you said you gave them?
- 52:26>> I The last time I was there,
- 52:28>> which was when they were taking this day
- 52:30by day by day by day trauma. Okay. Like
- 52:33if I have my phone, I get pinpoint. I
- 52:36don't have
- 52:36>> You want to look at a calendar?
- 52:37>> No, it won't help. Do
- 52:39>> you know what day today is?
- 52:41>> That will help. It's the 20th today,
- 52:45right? 2
- 52:47>> today's
- 52:48>> and it's
- 52:48>> today's Tuesday.
- 52:50>> Yeah, the 26th, right?
- 52:52>> 25th.
- 52:53>> Oh, okay. So, I was very close. Um, but
- 52:57obviously with all this going on and it
- 52:59was [ __ ] on my sleep schedule, which
- 53:01wasn't really out, but like you know.
- 53:03>> So, if today's Tuesday,
- 53:05>> by the way, I cuffed like this, but
- 53:06you're okay. Hey,
- 53:07>> I try not to leave it with my kid, but
- 53:09it's just like it's like if I'm going to
- 53:10talk like this, I might as well like
- 53:12talk like how I would so that I actually
- 53:14convey my point cuz I'm trying to help
- 53:17and
- 53:17>> No, you're fine. I I understand you.
- 53:20>> I'm not.
- 53:20>> If I don't, I'll ask I'll tell you this.
- 53:22You tell me. Um, so today's Tuesday.
- 53:24>> What do you mean here? She was just
- 53:26playing with I'm joking. But yeah, like
- 53:29I get
- 53:30>> Today's Tuesday. So when do you think
- 53:33you had given him these pills? the cuff
- 53:35the cough pills.
- 53:36>> Oh my god. No, I know by like like what
- 53:39we were doing that day and that was the
- 53:41day that I went to the doctor.
- 53:43>> Okay.
- 53:44>> So,
- 53:44>> so the day
- 53:45>> Friday
- 53:46>> Friday.
- 53:46>> Friday, I think.
- 53:48>> Okay. So, Friday you went to the doctor.
- 53:50>> Uh, yes. I think yes.
- 53:53>> Okay.
- 53:54>> I I make day by day by day by day. I
- 53:57don't pick it like 28, 29, 30. That's
- 54:00not how I'm thinking my next days. I'm
- 54:02thinking next day, next day, next day,
- 54:04day after the next, the day after the
- 54:06next next day, like I don't know if that
- 54:08makes sense.
- 54:09>> No, it makes sense. So, if we're going
- 54:11day by day, so that means
- 54:12>> that's why I say go like this.
- 54:13>> Yep. So, Wednesday you were with Emma
- 54:16>> and going through the stem cell.
- 54:17>> I don't know what I weren't.
- 54:19>> Okay.
- 54:20>> So, the first day you were with Emma
- 54:22doing stem cell stuff.
- 54:23>> Oh, just in general, Emma.
- 54:25>> Yep. Emma,
- 54:26>> we were having our time
- 54:28>> on Thursday.
- 54:30So the next day, so day two, you went to
- 54:32Tri Cities with your friends.
- 54:34>> No, that was when Okay. So I think
- 54:38I went there the night. I went there at
- 54:41night. So I got there the night of that
- 54:44day.
- 54:44>> The night of
- 54:45>> did all the Emma things that day. Went
- 54:47for Melliey's miscarriage. Emma things
- 54:49that day. And then that also Emma day is
- 54:52the day that I came back. We slept in
- 54:54the car. So that would be the next day.
- 54:57in cow town. And then the next day
- 55:01starts in cow town. We take it. I wake
- 55:04up. There's $50 in my day. I'M LIKE,
- 55:06"HEY GUYS, I'm got to work." And so we
- 55:09go home and then I pick up the girls cuz
- 55:13I just decided like that would be
- 55:14better. Like getting them from KK would
- 55:17be better in the morning than like, you
- 55:19know, rushing to get home, running out
- 55:22of gas. They you know, like it would
- 55:25just be better if we wake up in the
- 55:27morning. So we woke up at 6:00 that
- 55:28morning to figure it out. We ended up
- 55:31seeing it was there and we stopped the
- 55:33next two hours. Got back.
- 55:37So it's like an hour to found. So it
- 55:40probably took me like 30 minutes,
- 55:43but it probably took me like 30 minutes.
- 55:46And then I went to the Sinclair to get
- 55:49gas.
- 55:51It's me thing. And I always go to the
- 55:52Sinclair very
- 55:56>> Sinclair. Where's that at?
- 55:58>> Uh, it's the one by the smoke shop on
- 56:00the back. You know the cigarettes, the
- 56:03legal
- 56:04350 bag like
- 56:06>> Yeah,
- 56:09you can get a lot of I'm joking. Um, but
- 56:12no, that's my favorite thing to do
- 56:13because my Blade used to own his family
- 56:17used to own shops. So
- 56:20blinder and so I f up on blade and um
- 56:25[snorts]
- 56:26so I always go there and eventually I'm
- 56:29never going to probably do that again.
- 56:32All right, I'll get to that. Don't want
- 56:34to take that as a bag like soon as I go
- 56:35anymore. Um so
- 56:41for gas and we go and I I we go home to
- 56:46this is just sleeping with the kids. So,
- 56:47I got it obviously early. It's like
- 56:499:00. So, I go to sleep. I wake up. I
- 56:53forgot what time the appointment was.
- 56:55But I wake up in the early morning. I
- 56:56get the kids in the car. My car doesn't
- 56:58start. So, I bring the kids back in the
- 57:00car back in the house. And I'm like
- 57:03working that out cuz it won't start. It
- 57:05won't heat up because the motor is what
- 57:07heats the car. So, it won't start. So, I
- 57:10go in there. So, Ryan comes to jump my
- 57:14battery, which is my mom's friend at
- 57:16work.
- 57:18like my mom's trying to work like she
- 57:20works at a car dealership. Hyundai Vac
- 57:22cars in Hyundai like so it only makes
- 57:25sense. So
- 57:28he comes over he does it and it takes
- 57:30like an extra 5 minutes cuz he was there
- 57:32and we're chit chatting. So I get there
- 57:36like
- 57:39like five I mean it's like a five minute
- 57:41drive right from my house to like
- 57:44from my hour. It's right by my
- 57:48so my car break down again. So that's
- 57:51when I call Soie and I'm like Soie take
- 57:54the kids so that I can go do it. And
- 57:56she's like oh my god yes. Mr. Pros
- 58:00and I'm in the appointment and I'm just
- 58:02describing the symptoms because
- 58:07the pictures of like the face like the
- 58:09problems with her eye like the snot
- 58:12colors like you know everything that the
- 58:15doctor would need everything that the
- 58:17doctor asked me when I was little did to
- 58:20me when I was little I just take that
- 58:21logic and I just take pictures for that
- 58:25when I show you like yeah that's the
- 58:27color It's not. And he's like, I don't
- 58:28even know that. And she's not like,
- 58:30okay, I did all that for nothing. So,
- 58:35uh, my new car won't start again. So, it
- 58:37doesn't start again. So, she sends
- 58:39another guy, a different guy to come
- 58:42jump start your car, which is super
- 58:44embarrassing. So, I end up going to
- 58:46Hyundai. Stop insurance.
- 58:50You got that road. Stop sign. Stop sign.
- 58:5340. It's all 40. Yeah, 40. I only know
- 58:56grocer.
- 58:59Um, so I go to Hyundai
- 59:02and that takes a while. Me and my mom
- 59:05have lunch, but like you have your kids
- 59:07with you at this time.
- 59:08>> No.
- 59:09>> And they're with Sophie.
- 59:10>> They're with Sophie.
- 59:11>> They're with Sophie. They're doing
- 59:12something with Sophie. But Sophie works
- 59:14with kids, so I'm totally fine. Like
- 59:16she's a school teacher. Like she's fine.
- 59:19Wait, not school teacher. Lunch lady.
- 59:21Well, it's probably her. It's like, you
- 59:23know, up her title from watching. Um, so
- 59:28because of that, like I was totally fine
- 59:30with that, like she can handle it. She's
- 59:32just like keeping them in the back of
- 59:33the car. I think they got like
- 59:34McDonald's. I think she wants to like go
- 59:36visit a hoe. Like she was like, "Are you
- 59:38going to swing by David's house?" And
- 59:39just roll out my window and be like, "OH
- 59:41MY GOD, LOOK WHAT I GOT IN THE BACK."
- 59:42cuz like she wants to assure me that
- 59:44like she doesn't like do it to get hos
- 59:47but like at the same time like she's
- 59:49going to be oh I'm like oh my god like
- 59:50look I can be a mom and then drive off
- 59:53not invite them into the car or anything
- 59:55that's a boundary that we have but like
- 59:57you know
- 59:59get it like cute like it's so silly. Um
- 1:00:05so I let her do it.
- 1:00:08I mean why not? And Sophie has been at
- 1:00:10every single birthday party for her. I
- 1:00:12mean, only two, but like it's so cute.
- 1:00:15Like,
- 1:00:17um, so
- 1:00:21I got home. I dropped it off
- 1:00:24[clears throat]
- 1:00:29and I got my car seat back. Um,
- 1:00:34I'm sorry. I have my car back in the car
- 1:00:38and then we go do like one more.
- 1:00:41Oh yeah, I take them to Sinclair again
- 1:00:44and I take them to Sinclair. I dropped
- 1:00:47them off. Okay. I'm like we're going to
- 1:00:50be back tomorrow. So the plan the plan
- 1:00:53is to get back on the Emma day. Emma day
- 1:00:55took all day.
- 1:00:58So we made we just slept that morning of
- 1:01:02the next morning.
- 1:01:06>> [cough]
- 1:01:08[clears throat]
- 1:01:10>> So that was doctor day too.
- 1:01:13[cough]
- 1:01:14[clears throat] Doctor day then
- 1:01:18a regular thing
- 1:01:20and then
- 1:01:24archer day.
- 1:01:25>> What was it that I was doing?
- 1:01:27>> We were we were going [clears throat]
- 1:01:29day by day.
- 1:01:30>> This is when it starts to get
- 1:01:31traumatizing. Okay. So this is where
- 1:01:34[cough and clears throat]
- 1:01:36>> as you get closer to today, do you know
- 1:01:38what days are what?
- 1:01:39>> No,
- 1:01:40>> you still don't.
- 1:01:41>> Okay.
- 1:01:41>> No, jail.
- 1:01:43>> Okay. So I guess if you want to frame it
- 1:01:46in terms of jail and not jail, is it
- 1:01:48before or after? You can do that if that
- 1:01:51makes sense. So like things that
- 1:01:53happened after you were in jail and
- 1:01:55things that happened prior to you being
- 1:01:56in jail?
- 1:01:58>> No, because there's a lead. It's not
- 1:02:00like it's before or after. It's no just
- 1:02:02watch.
- 1:02:03>> Okay. Okay. Go for
- 1:02:04>> it. So,
- 1:02:05>> um we were hanging out.
- 1:02:10>> Oh, yeah. I said the kids want to see
- 1:02:12Kendrick. Okay. Cuz like Kendrick
- 1:02:16loves the kids. Like he's not dad. He's
- 1:02:18not going to play dad, but he loves the
- 1:02:20kids. Like
- 1:02:21>> Kendrick.
- 1:02:22>> Kendrick. It's a weird stupid name.
- 1:02:25[clears throat]
- 1:02:27>> Stupid guy. And what's Kendrick's last
- 1:02:29name? Gaya.
- 1:02:31>> Gaya.
- 1:02:32>> Don't even ask me how to spell that. Um,
- 1:02:35I know. G A E Y E T A I think.
- 1:02:38>> Okay.
- 1:02:39>> I think about it. Do you remember names?
- 1:02:42>> Um,
- 1:02:44[clears throat]
- 1:02:45the kids. We got the Ivy Smoke. You
- 1:02:48know, we sit in the parking lot of like
- 1:02:51Target for like hours so that we drive
- 1:02:55because at that point the kids are
- 1:02:57sleeping. So that they're all comes out.
- 1:02:59there sleeping. I think she had like
- 1:03:01Bluey and the Bluey put her to sleep
- 1:03:03out. Oh my god. The only he was smoking
- 1:03:06and so I got smoking.
- 1:03:10[clears throat]
- 1:03:12We got home.
- 1:03:15That's when it gets blurry. We got home
- 1:03:19and the girls
- 1:03:24What was it?
- 1:03:27This is when it enters jail territory.
- 1:03:30So, I'm trying to remember exactly what
- 1:03:31led me up to it
- 1:03:42cuz that was what that was what sparked
- 1:03:44everything.
- 1:03:47Oh, that was the day that I came back.
- 1:03:50It was dad inspection day. No, it was
- 1:03:52dad inspection day. That's not not
- 1:03:54Kindred Day. That was not the main focus
- 1:03:56of the day. My dad had an inspection at
- 1:04:00a 7:30 7:30 when he got off work.
- 1:04:03>> Dad.
- 1:04:04>> Dad. Dad. My
- 1:04:05>> father.
- 1:04:06>> Your father. Okay.
- 1:04:07>> Uh, Kelly Quinnell. Okay. Not Jared.
- 1:04:11Kelly Quinnell.
- 1:04:13Uh, because Jared is my birth father.
- 1:04:16Kelly Quinnell is my adopted father. I
- 1:04:17was adopted when I was one full.
- 1:04:21Um, so because of that, it was like it
- 1:04:24was like, "Oh my god, I'm going to get
- 1:04:25home." So I did get home in a reasonable
- 1:04:27time. I actually did. I got home like an
- 1:04:30hour before as I was cleaning and it was
- 1:04:33like perfect, but then I spilled a bag
- 1:04:35out of trash and it was a bar like a
- 1:04:40like I put it in the front and it just
- 1:04:43died.
- 1:04:45And so, um,
- 1:04:48when I got home
- 1:04:51from that, the world red,
- 1:04:54everything was fine. Let me think.
- 1:04:59I also remember by Snapchat. Okay,
- 1:05:02that's why I would love to have my phone
- 1:05:03right now because I do want to get a
- 1:05:05detail accurate and it's so hard for me
- 1:05:07to remember. So, I'm saying everything
- 1:05:09on record and I'm trying to remember it.
- 1:05:12I'd much rather have my phone
- 1:05:15cuz I can't remember if that was a
- 1:05:16Kendrick kid day. No, it wasn't. It was
- 1:05:20not the Kendrick kid day. I just wanted
- 1:05:22to hang out with Kred. They were
- 1:05:24sleeping at the house. KK her and
- 1:05:26>> Who's KK?
- 1:05:28>> KK.
- 1:05:28>> What's KK's name?
- 1:05:29>> Is a neighbor of mine that I met through
- 1:05:31my other neighbor and that neighbor
- 1:05:34moved away. And
- 1:05:35>> you know KK's real name?
- 1:05:38>> No, they're Mexican. Like they're
- 1:05:41they're Mexican.
- 1:05:44I'm back to
- 1:05:46every day like the date changes but KK
- 1:05:49stays the same.
- 1:05:50>> And is KK how do you get a hold of KK
- 1:05:52when you need to talk to KK?
- 1:05:54>> Normally I don't have to. She just stays
- 1:05:57at home if she needs if she needed to
- 1:06:00have an emergency. I leave her with the
- 1:06:02car seats.
- 1:06:03>> So I guess how do you get a hold of her?
- 1:06:05>> She doesn't have a phone.
- 1:06:06>> So how do you get a hold of her to watch
- 1:06:07your babies? Uh,
- 1:06:11she comes over and then I take that
- 1:06:13time. So, whenever she comes over,
- 1:06:17I'm like, "Can I go this time?" And I
- 1:06:19plan, "Hey, there's no plan that goes in
- 1:06:21there." You think I plan spending a
- 1:06:23whole day with Emma? No,
- 1:06:26I plan on spending a half hour. So, Ga
- 1:06:29doesn't really have anything to do.
- 1:06:31Like, she really does not have anything
- 1:06:32to do. But she is she
- 1:06:35>> well you mentioned she was on watching
- 1:06:36your kids so I kind of wanted to I guess
- 1:06:38that's why I'm asking.
- 1:06:39>> So she does have people she knows people
- 1:06:41in the neighborhood. So she goes through
- 1:06:43the neighborhood checks on me and that's
- 1:06:45why we became friends was because she
- 1:06:46was checking on me because she fell in a
- 1:06:48single mom that
- 1:06:50>> you don't have any way of contacting
- 1:06:51her.
- 1:06:52>> She used to have a phone but then I
- 1:06:53think it got stolen cuz you know my
- 1:06:56neighborhood. So it was like not that.
- 1:06:59So she's
- 1:07:00>> So how would you how would you contact
- 1:07:02kids to check on your kids?
- 1:07:05>> Got a neighbor.
- 1:07:06>> What neighbor?
- 1:07:07>> The one in the back. Like Rock had the
- 1:07:09number, but if I needed to, I call Rock
- 1:07:14to get them. So
- 1:07:15>> at any point did you call Rock to check
- 1:07:17on the kiddos?
- 1:07:19>> Rock don't know the kids? I would have
- 1:07:20to just get the number from him. So
- 1:07:23that's what was going on the day that I
- 1:07:25got arrested. Right.
- 1:07:27>> Okay. So that that was that day that
- 1:07:30this day. Okay. I came home. They were
- 1:07:33asleep. They had to go because I don't
- 1:07:36want at this point I don't want my dad
- 1:07:39like to know that KK is there with the
- 1:07:42kids cuz I get bored every day.
- 1:07:49>> My parent my mom my mom my dad
- 1:07:52understands that I want to go have fun
- 1:07:55with my friends. I have berated eggs
- 1:07:59about um
- 1:08:01how I'm talking about my kids lives by
- 1:08:05like as I said the Tri Cities trip when
- 1:08:07we came home and it was 12:00. Okay,
- 1:08:10it's 12:00. They were sleeping in the
- 1:08:13car. The hole right there.
- 1:08:16No, the hole right there. The hole right
- 1:08:17back. So that's obviously like an hour
- 1:08:19and a half for me.
- 1:08:20>> The whole ride back from where? two
- 1:08:22hours from where
- 1:08:23>> should I see
- 1:08:26>> I don't know I got a good 30 40 minutes
- 1:08:29>> okay earlier you told me that you didn't
- 1:08:31take them to try cities that they stayed
- 1:08:32with KK
- 1:08:34>> but when I would when I would so I get
- 1:08:37that's what I'm saying I get berated
- 1:08:39>> let's let's talk about the incident
- 1:08:41we're talking about the week prior to
- 1:08:44>> that is so I'm just
- 1:08:47>> okay so you mentioned your kids
- 1:08:48>> every single day [snorts]
- 1:08:49>> you mentioned your kids are home with KK
- 1:08:51while You want to try cities?
- 1:08:52>> Yes.
- 1:08:53>> Okay.
- 1:08:53>> Because I get berated every single day
- 1:08:55about how I need to do that. I need to
- 1:08:58give them routine. So I put them to bed
- 1:09:02myself.
- 1:09:03>> The day you went to Tri Cities.
- 1:09:04>> Yeah.
- 1:09:06>> But you mentioned you saved the night in
- 1:09:09Cow Town. Correct.
- 1:09:10>> Yes. So K doesn't have anything to do.
- 1:09:13Like genuinely I'll check.
- 1:09:16>> I'll be like you.
- 1:09:17>> So who watched your kids while you were
- 1:09:18in Cow Town? If you say KK had nothing
- 1:09:21to do with any of this
- 1:09:25>> she so Wait, go ahead. Can I have a
- 1:09:28piece of paper?
- 1:09:28>> I'm trying to understand. Yeah,
- 1:09:30>> no. Give me a piece of paper.
- 1:09:35So, originally
- 1:09:38a
- 1:09:38>> It's okay. Okay. So, we're doing it like
- 1:09:41this. Okay.
- 1:09:43>> Right here. Okay.
- 1:09:45This
- 1:09:50>> are you making the
- 1:09:54>> Okay. So, this is
- 1:09:58how did I label them? Emma day
- 1:10:03cow. This is cow. This is cow.
- 1:10:07That right there is cow. That is sleep
- 1:10:10period is cow. This is doctor
- 1:10:13and dad. because his dad went in between
- 1:10:16uh Kendra because she was at the house.
- 1:10:18So she went and she walked around. She
- 1:10:20did her own thing. Uh and then she got
- 1:10:23back and when she got back well the kids
- 1:10:27were always sleeping cuz they were
- 1:10:29already sleeping from when I went out
- 1:10:31with Kendrick. So I put them to bed when
- 1:10:33I went out with Kendrick. And so when I
- 1:10:35got back there sleeping, you know, at
- 1:10:40the same time as
- 1:10:43K. So
- 1:10:46I and I hear his cry. So I'm like, okay.
- 1:10:51But it was like one of those cries like
- 1:10:52as mommy, you know,
- 1:10:59that's how I know. That's how I know if
- 1:11:01it's like like she makes it. No, I'm
- 1:11:03not. Okay. So, I take that as Okay,
- 1:11:06let's go. So, I get money. I already
- 1:11:10have money. So, I purposely got my
- 1:11:15friend Desiree food and we were supposed
- 1:11:18to surprise her cuz she's just down the
- 1:11:21road from us. And my kid loves
- 1:11:24McDonald's. It was a surprise because of
- 1:11:27all the stuff that we've been doing.
- 1:11:29Trying to give her a little surprise. So
- 1:11:32we're pulling the we pull into
- 1:11:36okay to make this clear doctor then at
- 1:11:41that night.
- 1:11:44Let me try to label this better cuz I
- 1:11:46like to be more organized with this cuz
- 1:11:49it's like obviously the doctor dad
- 1:11:51inspection.
- 1:11:58At this point, they're sleeping. But I
- 1:11:59hear that. I hear that.
- 1:12:03So, it was only like seven. I ate when I
- 1:12:08left.
- 1:12:10No.
- 1:12:13I waited.
- 1:12:15It was in the middle of the night, but
- 1:12:16McDonald's was still open. McDonald's
- 1:12:18was still open.
- 1:12:19>> Okay.
- 1:12:20So intentionally because I knew it was
- 1:12:23going to be a long night because I like
- 1:12:25hardly ever like I hardly ever hear that
- 1:12:28noise.
- 1:12:30I I knew I was going to go on that was
- 1:12:32to go get McDonald's when KK and them
- 1:12:36were sleeping.
- 1:12:38KK would know obviously, but I was still
- 1:12:40going to go get McDonald's for
- 1:12:43so
- 1:12:46I end up going to get McDonald's. What
- 1:12:48did I write here? No, that inspire SP.
- 1:12:53I'm going to put a period that way it's
- 1:12:54more
- 1:12:56recognizable. Down. So that inspiration
- 1:13:00turns into hang out by myself while
- 1:13:02everybody's sleeping to Des wants
- 1:13:05McDonald's. So big.
- 1:13:11>> Can I stop you real quick? Is that okay?
- 1:13:14>> Yes. So earlier you mentioned when I
- 1:13:16talked to you about what your kiddos
- 1:13:18eat, you mentioned that
- 1:13:21anything like anything.
- 1:13:23>> Earlier you told me she was only eating
- 1:13:25purees instead.
- 1:13:26>> No
- 1:13:286 months old
- 1:13:302 years old.
- 1:13:31>> Uhhuh.
- 1:13:33>> 2-year-old eats anything. Like I have
- 1:13:35pictures of her child. Like she went for
- 1:13:37her first birthday we went to Denny's.
- 1:13:39Second birthday we went there. I So
- 1:13:42Cher's not at that stage. She's 6 months
- 1:13:44old. That last 3 months of that like one
- 1:13:48year is when they really get like they
- 1:13:50start eating like pancakes, waffles.
- 1:13:52That's why we chose Denny's is because
- 1:13:55breakfast. Yeah.
- 1:13:56>> How often would you guys eat?
- 1:13:59>> Every day all day. Like I'm eating like
- 1:14:03I'm giving her food. Like you know what
- 1:14:05I mean? Like obviously not she can't do
- 1:14:08that. Any excuse whatever the [ __ ] she
- 1:14:11wants. like I don't give a she can eat
- 1:14:13as much as you want. And my pediatrician
- 1:14:17says a fat kid is a happy well-developed
- 1:14:22kid if he's going outside.
- 1:14:24>> So
- 1:14:24>> cuz he's not fat and he's not
- 1:14:25overweight. He's just going to be
- 1:14:27chubby. Like they grow into it. They're
- 1:14:30a toddler. They're not supposed to be
- 1:14:31like a supermodel. They're going to have
- 1:14:33some belly fat. Like
- 1:14:35>> would um
- 1:14:37>> So I was going to get her some fries.
- 1:14:38Would you feed or did feed yourself?
- 1:14:42>> Did you feed yourself? I just want like
- 1:14:44like when we're in the back seat because
- 1:14:46it's obviously not safe. So, oh my god.
- 1:14:50This sounds so bad. So, I just surprise
- 1:14:54back at her how to She's right behind me
- 1:14:58and she's front facing.
- 1:14:59>> So, when when was the last time you
- 1:15:00think you f
- 1:15:02>> I was Okay, that's when I was playing.
- 1:15:05Okay, wait. Just just let it.
- 1:15:07>> Okay.
- 1:15:07>> Make dick and then I get arrested in the
- 1:15:12parking lot. If we get I have you can
- 1:15:14look at the nasty
- 1:15:16>> dash. You get arrested.
- 1:15:18>> I haven't even made my order yet. I'm
- 1:15:20pulling on my app.
- 1:15:21>> Pull forward. Like this guy really wants
- 1:15:24me chicken. I'm getting mad because I'm
- 1:15:26getting telling me what the pull
- 1:15:29forward. I'm wondering am I what the
- 1:15:33starting?
- 1:15:35This is the only funny part.
- 1:15:39And he's like,
- 1:15:42"You already have a warrant." I'm like,
- 1:15:44"No." Why the I have a warrant cuz the
- 1:15:48the time of the warrant is a year ago.
- 1:15:50So one year ago 6 months old. So think
- 1:15:54about it, Evan.
- 1:15:54>> Let's let's talk about that name.
- 1:15:57That has to do that has to do with it.
- 1:16:00It's a year old warrant. So I have no
- 1:16:02idea that it's there.
- 1:16:03>> Okay. So that goes into me being
- 1:16:08arrested.
- 1:16:09>> Okay.
- 1:16:10>> Which is this morning.
- 1:16:15I don't know how. Oh yeah, this morning.
- 1:16:18So I'm in jail.
- 1:16:21I have court at one.
- 1:16:22>> Okay.
- 1:16:29>> But I don't know that yet. Okay. I don't
- 1:16:30know that. My friend Emma, she's trying
- 1:16:32to bail me out because she's rich. So
- 1:16:34obviously I call her. Her credit is high
- 1:16:36though because she's rich. So she's
- 1:16:38like, "Oh my god, my dad will do it." So
- 1:16:40it turns into like her dad never ends up
- 1:16:43doing it because he didn't get off work
- 1:16:45until I was already done with my court.
- 1:16:46So like why the you
- 1:16:49>> what happened when you're done with your
- 1:16:50court?
- 1:16:50>> So I was done with my Oh my god. That's
- 1:16:53what I was saying. That's what I was
- 1:16:54saying. That's what I was saying. So
- 1:16:57that cord day one goes to this which is
- 1:17:02obviously our nighttime time right
- 1:17:06I get to 2 hours after so it should be
- 1:17:08three right should be three I get this
- 1:17:15I've never
- 1:17:23and she won't talk to me and I start
- 1:17:25freaking out. You can't even have
- 1:17:27recordings. Okay, they were being
- 1:17:29douchebag. I said multiple times all
- 1:17:32over. I DIDN'T KNOW I was getting my
- 1:17:35kids at home. They're babies. I I don't
- 1:17:40have a number. I can't get a number
- 1:17:42because they don't let me text to get
- 1:17:44the number. They don't give a
- 1:17:47It's so wrong.
- 1:17:58break down.
- 1:18:00I felt so bad
- 1:18:03on the wall and I feel nothing
- 1:18:08over.
- 1:18:16That's the candle I got. I'M CRYING. You
- 1:18:19get that answer from
- 1:18:20>> Oh my god. You can look at them. You can
- 1:18:23look at the
- 1:18:24>> the jail.
- 1:18:25>> The corrections officer, whatever name
- 1:18:28was. I don't care to know. I don't care.
- 1:18:34Kids. I have kids.
- 1:18:40I put I don't know why, but I put the
- 1:18:42most crazy in the lab. Sorry, one of my
- 1:18:46vocabulary words. I'll try to keep out.
- 1:18:48Um but yeah most
- 1:18:54yeah LOOK
- 1:18:57LIKE that
- 1:19:02like over me attitude thing and I'm
- 1:19:05wearing jug makeup because I just did my
- 1:19:07makeup like I gave my mom. I didn't need
- 1:19:11to go to jail. I would never do that. I
- 1:19:13was just having fun. I was just BEING A
- 1:19:15GIRL. LIKE I WAS JUST DOING MY MAKEUP on
- 1:19:17funny and that can put me in danger
- 1:19:21like going there. I couldn't take it
- 1:19:22off. I forgot that I had the makeup on.
- 1:19:25And so I'm like I'm getting her doing my
- 1:19:29makeup and she's like me. I'm like like
- 1:19:33you scaring me like I'm picking the top
- 1:19:35of it. Like men say worse things to me
- 1:19:37each day. So I'm gonna like I'm gonna
- 1:19:39talk and smile back to her because this
- 1:19:41is the wall like I'm not gonna start
- 1:19:43problems like her but I'm also gonna be
- 1:19:45like
- 1:19:47>> then what happened after you told the
- 1:19:50correction officer about this?
- 1:19:51>> I was telling the corrections officer
- 1:19:52that I needed to go home and I actually
- 1:19:55starting to go crazy at this point
- 1:19:57because it's hitting me. I am stuck. I'm
- 1:20:00a wall and I have babies like down the
- 1:20:04road. I for my babies. I I get the wor
- 1:20:10You can see it. You can see it. And I'm
- 1:20:13following my tears and I Yeah, you guys
- 1:20:17are fine. You said they're going to be
- 1:20:18watch.
- 1:20:22This is way after two hours. It is uh at
- 1:20:25that point 5:00
- 1:20:29and I say, "Thank God it's not 5:30
- 1:20:31because I just think thank God it's not
- 1:20:335:30." 5:30 is when I like to like, you
- 1:20:36know, either be at home or be somewhere
- 1:20:39getting like food, you know.
- 1:20:44So, I go to the same place, get gas
- 1:20:47because when is this after you got the
- 1:20:50time I got released, I went immediately
- 1:20:53to drop off
- 1:20:55because that's who got my car. Um, and
- 1:21:01then
- 1:21:01>> who went to go get your car? My dad's
- 1:21:03dad.
- 1:21:04>> Desi's dad.
- 1:21:05>> That's where it's at.
- 1:21:06>> Des. Okay. Where was your car at?
- 1:21:09>> McDonald's.
- 1:21:09>> Okay.
- 1:21:10>> And so I'm riding down at McDonald's and
- 1:21:13we were over there. So I took it home
- 1:21:15cuz I was supposed to surprise.
- 1:21:17>> Okay.
- 1:21:18>> Oh, I think Oh my god. McDonald's.
- 1:21:25Oh my god. I was walking to her room.
- 1:21:27I'm going crazy, right? Nothing's wrong.
- 1:21:30You need to calm down. I have been
- 1:21:32really bad in the past who been locked
- 1:21:34in rooms. Okay. Every day as a kid, I
- 1:21:38was locked in a room to the point where
- 1:21:39I bought it because I couldn't ask my
- 1:21:42parents to leave. They're amazing
- 1:21:44parents. Amazing. Amazing work they did
- 1:21:46right there. I was a kid. I deserved it.
- 1:21:50>> So, you got out, you got your car, you
- 1:21:52went to their gas station. Then what
- 1:21:54happened?
- 1:21:56>> It to go get the girls.
- 1:22:03And I didn't
- 1:22:04>> What happened when you went to go get
- 1:22:07the girl?
- 1:22:09>> I uh
- 1:22:11I saw the door.
- 1:22:16I answering
- 1:22:18the back door is really easy to break
- 1:22:19into. Like it's not really easy to break
- 1:22:20into, but at the same time, my house is
- 1:22:24designed well. So the door is in like
- 1:22:29this. So I think maybe like
- 1:22:32this my way into the door and nothing
- 1:22:35breaks because it's designed really.
- 1:22:36>> Yeah.
- 1:22:38>> So I do that I realize
- 1:22:42no here. So I search around the house
- 1:22:46and I see like little things that are
- 1:22:47like concerning. I don't hear my kids.
- 1:22:52So okay maybe they're sleeping and the
- 1:22:55same way.
- 1:22:59Sorry, I can't
- 1:23:05find a towel.
- 1:23:09There's a towel in the room with her.
- 1:23:12That's kind of weird, but maybe like my
- 1:23:14kids weird. So maybe should have brought
- 1:23:16the towel over there. Like you know,
- 1:23:24>> what is that?
- 1:23:25>> It's going to hurt me. I go
- 1:23:28I go
- 1:23:44[screaming and crying]
- 1:23:52open. Her eyes were [ __ ] open.
- 1:23:56I
- 1:23:58But I remember seeing your bed
- 1:24:06[gasps]
- 1:24:09open.
- 1:24:14[screaming]
- 1:24:19[screaming]
- 1:24:40I don't know why she was wet. I don't
- 1:24:41even know why she was
- 1:24:45screaming and going
- 1:24:48[screaming]
- 1:24:51to my house
- 1:24:54at this point.
- 1:24:55And so I'm like I I run to the car. I
- 1:25:00run to the car. I run to the car and
- 1:25:02immediately I don't know what took over
- 1:25:04me. I don't know. I don't know. But I
- 1:25:06saw my dead baby and I heard about
- 1:25:10scared.
- 1:25:12I didn't know
- 1:25:13the front door and I didn't know. I
- 1:25:16didn't know if I blocked it because I
- 1:25:18was going to call the police
- 1:25:21to come back and
- 1:25:24do that. Okay, I'm going to [ __ ] kill
- 1:25:25myself. Now the part my mom
- 1:25:31me
- 1:25:42so much that
- 1:25:49my best friend just died. I don't give
- 1:25:51her a name. She's not stupid. Okay, she
- 1:25:53knows that time is a
- 1:25:56she doesn't know that time. Why? She
- 1:25:58thinks it's a
- 1:26:00give me a second. Right. Hey, hang on.
- 1:26:03Your phone service is canceled. Well,
- 1:26:05you okay you
- 1:26:10so I can't do anything. So I filed the
- 1:26:12police report. Now it's dawning on me
- 1:26:15and that I didn't have service. So
- 1:26:16that's why I didn't go through. So the
- 1:26:18next day [gasps]
- 1:26:20too scared to go back to that too scared
- 1:26:22to go back too scared. So
- 1:26:26>> okay. So sorry
- 1:26:27>> I'm just driving I'm just driving
- 1:26:29around.
- 1:26:30>> We go we go back to that day first. So
- 1:26:32you tried to file a police report.
- 1:26:33>> I tried to file it online because it's
- 1:26:35night time at that time.
- 1:26:39>> That time it's not office hours.
- 1:26:41>> Correct. You just saw your child
- 1:26:42deceased and you tried to file your
- 1:26:45report. Excuse me. Couldn't call. I
- 1:26:48don't have a number. I don't have a
- 1:26:49number. Okay. I don't have a number.
- 1:26:52It's a panic situation. I don't know the
- 1:26:54ads to get. So, I
- 1:26:56>> When you're in When you're in emergency,
- 1:26:58what do you what number are you talking
- 1:26:59about?
- 1:26:59>> I can't call 911. I don't have service.
- 1:27:03>> I I don't know.
- 1:27:04>> Do you understand that even if you don't
- 1:27:05have service, you can still dial 911?
- 1:27:08>> No one told me that. No one's ever told
- 1:27:10me that. I was homeschooled. Okay. So,
- 1:27:13no one ever told me that. So, I didn't
- 1:27:15know. I [ __ ] want to know now. Please
- 1:27:18don't make me feel stupid for that. I
- 1:27:19just
- 1:27:20>> I'm not I'm just I'm just trying to
- 1:27:21understand. I'm trying
- 1:27:24>> I'm not I'm sorry for the [ __ ] rest
- 1:27:25of this [ __ ]
- 1:27:27>> I'm trying to understand the
- 1:27:28>> Yeah, I know.
- 1:27:29>> when you first got there.
- 1:27:30>> Sorry. It was that guy. It was that guy.
- 1:27:32>> The you got the the day you got released
- 1:27:35>> from jail. Correct.
- 1:27:37>> Yes.
- 1:27:37>> Okay.
- 1:27:39>> So, you
- 1:27:41Yeah.
- 1:27:44having a [ __ ] bag of that and my
- 1:27:46friend's dad. I don't know what's wrong
- 1:27:49with them, but she was stupid and I have
- 1:27:51a dead baby. Oh, this 16year-old I'm
- 1:27:55going to talk to that doesn't give a
- 1:27:59like he does. It's okay.
- 1:28:03Go back home.
- 1:28:07I don't even think that cuz at that
- 1:28:08point I wasn't like saying she was dead.
- 1:28:11He's gone. Cherry's gone. Cherry is
- 1:28:13gone. And I expect him to know what that
- 1:28:15means. Okay. But I don't think he really
- 1:28:17did.
- 1:28:18Try to leave cuz I'm going to go get my
- 1:28:21grandma Debbie
- 1:28:24Mingler. Jared birth dad birth. Not
- 1:28:29my adopted family doesn't like her.
- 1:28:31She's a ex alcoholic.
- 1:28:33So I I'm freaking
- 1:28:36out. And at this point in the house, I
- 1:28:39had like two vapes and I grabbed one of
- 1:28:42them. It was a green apple. And then
- 1:28:45there should still be a I was talking to
- 1:28:47you about this in the car. Um there was
- 1:28:49a green apple and there should be a
- 1:28:51Christmas edition one. And I was
- 1:28:56stress puffing on that great apple.
- 1:28:58Okay. Cuz I'm I'm not going to want to
- 1:29:01do anything else, but I'm going to want
- 1:29:02to stress puff. So I grabbed on the way
- 1:29:05out because I had already like on the
- 1:29:07way in I had grabbed it and I was going
- 1:29:10to hit it my hand and I'm not
- 1:29:12ventilating my kids are feeling my hand
- 1:29:14like I this thing I ran and then I just
- 1:29:17ran I just I don't know what's wrong
- 1:29:20with me. I just ran
- 1:29:23I ran and I did not report.
- 1:29:27Now I'm realizing that that's why and
- 1:29:31I'm thinking why the I call what's
- 1:29:35going on?
- 1:29:37And so that morning I'm sitting at
- 1:29:43I don't even know where
- 1:29:45I
- 1:29:51[clears throat]
- 1:29:52may text that number.
- 1:29:54Yeah.
- 1:29:57They called YPD
- 1:30:00immed like YPD.
- 1:30:04>> This was the next morning.
- 1:30:05>> Yeah.
- 1:30:05>> Okay.
- 1:30:06>> Cuz at that night [clears throat] when I
- 1:30:08was driving that vape when I was saying
- 1:30:12I don't know why I have no clue why
- 1:30:15normally vapes don't do this to me.
- 1:30:17Okay. So see this necklace it reflects.
- 1:30:20So now I'm realizing that that's what it
- 1:30:22was. But I was saying it go.
- 1:30:28So I'm a speeder
- 1:30:31miss speed. And so for some reason the
- 1:30:33paranoid it goes on to me and it's
- 1:30:36already a stressful situation
- 1:30:39and
- 1:30:41I I don't even know why.
- 1:30:44I don't know what the is wrong with me.
- 1:30:48driving to Debbiey's and it starts at me
- 1:30:53and I'm like what the
- 1:30:56I have beams coming up beams like like
- 1:30:59like you know when boys have like guns
- 1:31:01and they have like beams on them. That's
- 1:31:04what I'm saying. And I'm like from all
- 1:31:06the angles. So, I'm hyperventilating and
- 1:31:09my baby's bed and I'm I'm I'm like I
- 1:31:12want to place my like do I feel like
- 1:31:14this on top of everything cuz it like
- 1:31:17it's not a feeling that I got from a
- 1:31:18vape and it's not like a regular drug
- 1:31:20that I've tried before because I have
- 1:31:21this like other drugs like that I
- 1:31:24mentioned
- 1:31:30acid.
- 1:31:30>> What else did you do that night? So that
- 1:31:32night I drove I don't I I don't even
- 1:31:35remember but I think people were
- 1:31:37following me.
- 1:31:38>> Where'd you stay the night that night?
- 1:31:39>> No, I did not stay the night. I was too
- 1:31:41paranoid to stay the night cuz I got
- 1:31:44into my car. There was a light
- 1:31:46reflecting and I had beeps on me and so
- 1:31:49I don't know what was wrong. I genuinely
- 1:31:52don't know what was wrong. But I think
- 1:31:54that people are coming out of ME BECAUSE
- 1:31:55MY KID
- 1:31:56>> AND I HAVE BEEPS on me. So I just start
- 1:31:58driving
- 1:32:00>> driving driving driving.
- 1:32:02>> Oh, you didn't see me. I was not good at
- 1:32:06it. Oh, Sila, if you had any driving
- 1:32:08reports what last night? That was
- 1:32:11probably me. I did I think I cried into
- 1:32:15someone's like
- 1:32:17blonde kind of. I know. I remember
- 1:32:19backing out, but it was like genuinely
- 1:32:21like went and I WENT
- 1:32:25LIKE LIKE that's how not okay I was
- 1:32:28mentally. I think that y'all were coming
- 1:32:30after me
- 1:32:33again.
- 1:32:35Do you understand?
- 1:32:37>> And why would you think we were coming
- 1:32:38after?
- 1:32:39>> I don't know. I don't I don't know. I
- 1:32:42don't know AT THAT POINT. I DON'T HAVE
- 1:32:44ANY I I CAN'T EXPLAIN. I CAN'T EXPLAIN.
- 1:32:47I CAN'T EXPLAIN. [screaming]
- 1:32:53I REMEMBER IT AND IT WAS SUCH A
- 1:32:55traumatizing feeling. So I started
- 1:32:57driving. I drove up and I did about and
- 1:33:00I went all the way up because I was
- 1:33:02going to run inside
- 1:33:11my baby.
- 1:33:20Okay, I'm sorry. This is so stupid.
- 1:33:24But I'm driving trying to avoid these
- 1:33:26and so it's only showing sometimes. So I
- 1:33:28think I'm about driving.
- 1:33:30I think I'm about driving and I find out
- 1:33:33I come back and I remember I was on the
- 1:33:35road. I was yelling at me.
- 1:33:40You see this?
- 1:33:43I I'm thinking you guys are like up
- 1:33:45there cuz I'm seeing the light up there
- 1:33:47and I at one point I think it's a
- 1:33:51helicopter. Okay. But I'm scared, but
- 1:33:54it's not like I could.
- 1:33:55>> So, after you were driving around, where
- 1:33:57did you
- 1:33:57>> I went all the way and I wound up in
- 1:34:00that cheese
- 1:34:01>> and I went through my mom's house and
- 1:34:02that was the whole thing that was
- 1:34:03supposed to get me turned around, but
- 1:34:04then I remember Chlo that point me
- 1:34:09because she's hanging out with my baby
- 1:34:10daddy, right?
- 1:34:12>> Your mom lives out.
- 1:34:14>> Yeah. So, I pass.
- 1:34:18So, I just keep driving.
- 1:34:21>> Okay. And then at
- 1:34:23>> that's when I start realizing that
- 1:34:26they're going away and it's morning
- 1:34:28time. So I thought I thought it was
- 1:34:31because my lights were on.
- 1:34:32>> Morning time. Is that today?
- 1:34:34>> Yeah. The most reason this morning.
- 1:34:36Okay.
- 1:34:36>> Yeah. The most reasonable thing in my
- 1:34:38head was oh my god it's morning time. My
- 1:34:42life for what was giving it off cuz at
- 1:34:44this point I used to think that there
- 1:34:45was a helicopter at me. I don't know why
- 1:34:48but just paranoia
- 1:34:50everything. I I don't know if I was
- 1:34:54I don't know if it was that adrenaline.
- 1:34:57I don't know. I don't know. But I mean,
- 1:35:01you have a bunch of red laser beams on
- 1:35:03you, right?
- 1:35:06>> Your child just died. You accidentally
- 1:35:09fled the scene. YOU REALIZE THAT YOU
- 1:35:12ACCIDENTALLY FLED the scene by freaking
- 1:35:14out.
- 1:35:15And so I don't I'm not going to drive
- 1:35:17back in town. I don't know why I didn't
- 1:35:19drive back to Yakma.
- 1:35:21But
- 1:35:22>> so at what point do you remember calling
- 1:35:24>> YPD?
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