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0:00Free Health, Gabriel de Mortemar on
0:06>> Hello and welcome to a new episode of
0:08Free Health on Toxin Plus, featuring
0:10today a subject I am particularly fond
0:12of: essential oils. When I personally
0:16started using them, I had the amazing
0:17feeling of having made a real discovery
0:19, that of a fascinating world, a world
0:21where each oil is a unique character
0:23whose depth is revealed through use.
0:25You have the discreet ones, the secret
0:27ones, the boisterous ones, the powerful
0:29ones, the must-haves, the little-known
0:31ones, the unexpected ones, and so on. A
0:33whole palette of colors, ranges, and
0:35personalities. And then there are the
0:37combinations of oils, what we call
0:39synergies, which multiply their
0:40strengths. A bit like when a painter
0:43succeeds in marrying colors together,
0:46increasing their power tenfold. Just a
0:49recent example at the Valenciennes
0:51hospital, where a geriatric team
0:53obtained such convincing results
0:55against osteoarthritis with oils that
0:58the team received the Gattefossé prize
1:00, which rewards the most innovative
1:02initiatives involving natural
1:04substances in a hospital setting. There
1:09is also another recent success at the
1:11Pasteur Hospital in Colmar where, to
1:13calm patient anxiety, distress, and
1:15agitation, caregivers also use lavender
1:17, sweet orange, or Roman chamomile oils
1:20, via inhalations and anointing the
1:22back or the soles of the feet to
1:24provide relief. Well, with oils, we are
1:27going to see today that there is
1:29something even deeper. Because beyond
1:31their therapeutic virtues, essential
1:33oils truly transform the relationship.
1:36Their scent fosters a unique sharing
1:38between patient and caregiver, which is
1:40at the core of what is the very heart
1:43of their profession: "care," as we call
1:45it. So today, to talk about this, I am
1:48truly pleased to welcome one of the
1:50most exciting and also one of the most
1:52cheerful French specialists on the
1:54subject of essential oils. You may have
1:56seen her before; it’s Elske Miles.
1:58Are you multi-faceted? You are an
2:00aromatherapist, reflexologist, speaker,
2:02and you are also an author. You wrote "
2:05Essential Oils for Dummies" and, more
2:07recently, a book called "
2:08Phytoenergetics" with Michel Odoul,
2:10which has an approach we will come back
2:12to, notably stimulating acupuncture
2:14points with essential oils. And above
2:17all, I have been following you for,
2:19well, about ten years now, 10 years,
2:21since you created a training program
2:23called "Mastering the Power of
2:24Essential Oils," which you distribute
2:26online and which has trained tens of
2:28thousands of people who have, thanks to
2:30you, entered this absolutely
2:32fascinating therapeutic world. So today
2:35, we are going to enter into a
2:36relationship with these essential oils
2:38with you. You are going to tell us who
2:41they are, what they can do to help us,
2:42and then you will lead us into this
2:44truly fascinating world. So, I don't
2:46know, perhaps to start, you could tell
2:48us what may have led you yourself onto
2:50this path of oils and how you arrived
2:52there.
2:52>> Thank you so much. I'll start with that
2:54, first of all. Thank you, Gabriel.
2:57That is a presentation that is an
2:59extraordinary synthesis and a very
3:01clearly displayed passion for essential
3:04oils. So I thank you on behalf of these
3:07extraordinary aromatic plants. There
3:10are exciting ones, discreet ones,
3:12mysterious ones, well, all of that. We
3:15are in the world of scent. We are
3:17absolutely in this world of scent where
3:20we are led by the nose. That is to say,
3:23once you dive into that world, it's
3:25over, it's too late.
3:28>> You get lost, you get lost in it
3:29entirely. We are guided by these
3:32luminous, fragrant, extraordinary
3:33beings. So, first of all, thank you for
3:36inviting me because I love talking
3:38about essential oils and helping people
3:39discover these wonders. So, I
3:42discovered them in South Africa, where
3:45I am originally from. And it's a very
3:49specific approach to essential oils
3:51that we still practice, and we could
3:53say that it is the dominant use of
3:55essential oils on a global level. If
3:59you go to Japan, for example, and talk
4:01about essential oil aromatherapy—well
4:03, you don't talk about essential oils,
4:05you talk about aromatherapy—everyone
4:06thinks it's this absolutely sumptuous,
4:08very pleasant therapy. We massage the
4:12feet, we massage the back, with
4:14fragrant ointments that lead people
4:17into a state of deep relaxation, where
4:20we have synergies that will tone the
4:22body. We can have this relationship
4:26that exists between the person applying
4:29it and the person receiving it, but we
4:31can also perform self-care. I would
4:34indeed like to give a few small tips
4:36that we can use for self-care, but what
4:38you say is very interesting because, as
4:40a result, there is this relationship
4:42with touch and the combination of touch
4:44and fragrance. Both, that is to say the
4:48cutaneous dimension, the skin and the
4:51nose, olfaction. These two dynamics
4:54belong in energy medicine to the lung
4:58energy, meaning this protective energy,
5:01uh, which is at once the lung—it's
5:05what we, well, it's our life instinct.
5:09Meaning if you disrupt lung energy, you
5:13can no longer, uh, have the, the, the
5:17survival reflex. That's why, you know,
5:22with little monkeys, the images of
5:24little monkey statuettes, you have the
5:27eyes that are closed, the ears, the
5:29mouth, and never the nose, because the
5:32nose is the link to life, it's our life
5:35instinct. Right? So there is really
5:37this dimension there. Uh, and we, we
5:39find in energy medicine the link
5:41between the nose, then, and the skin.
5:43It's the, it's the extension of the
5:45same thing. And so in, uh, the French
5:48expression which is very beautiful, uh,
5:51that we have of saying "I was touched
5:53by someone," uh,
5:55>> by a word, by a thought. It means we
5:59have this notion of touch which is
6:01sensory, which puts us in connection
6:03with what is most intimate in us, most
6:05deep in us. Uh, it's Paul Valéry,
6:08actually, who said that the skin is
6:10what is deepest in us. So we are at
6:13once in this surface that protects us,
6:16that sets a barrier, that is a shield,
6:19and, uh, in this access, well, a
6:21gateway to what is intimate in us. So
6:25there, that's how I started, uh, my
6:27path with essential oils because now,
6:30oh my, that's going back a long time,
6:3340 years ago, I learned South African
6:35foot reflexology. A very gentle
6:39technique that immediately touches the
6:40roots of the being, that is to say,
6:42through their feet. And we integrated
6:45essential oils by, well, into the
6:48treatments, at the end of the treatment
6:51or during the treatment with a scented
6:54powder, uh, to deepen, uh, the, the,
6:57shall we say, the therapeutic result
6:59beyond the treatment. Meaning once the
7:03person who received the treatment left
7:06the office, the work continued to be
7:08done on the energy level. So there was
7:11a little bit of that, that approach.
7:12>> Right. Right.
7:13>> Right. So, it's not "foot to nose," but
7:16there was this initial relationship.
7:19And then, it was by coming to France to
7:22finish my studies in modern literature,
7:25so in ethnography, modern literature,
7:28uh...I'm passionate about language,
7:31signs, and symbols, uh...and so it was
7:34now, wow, 30 years ago, that I met
7:36Dominique Baudou who is...
7:39>> Yes. who is a big name in essential
7:41oils.
7:41>> Absolutely. It is really, uh, the
7:43practice of scientific aromatherapy.
7:46Okay. So, in other words, yes, it's
7:47important. Sorry, I’m opening a
7:50parenthesis, but it is important to
7:51always remember that, when it comes to
7:53these topics, uh, all the
7:55recommendations we can make are always
7:56based on scientific studies, on
7:58perfectly scientific conclusions, and
8:00that it is not simply a practice
8:01derived from tradition. Today, there
8:04are very many studies that validate the
8:07utility of essential oils and that is
8:09therefore what you base your
8:10recommendations, advice, and training
8:12on. So maybe to transition, we can
8:15simply explain, what are these oils
8:18that are natural yet not harmless? The
8:22power of essential oils, how can it be
8:24explained? Yes, precisely because that
8:28is why I started there, with this
8:30approach which is world-renowned, but
8:32ultimately it is not the most
8:33representative of what can be done with
8:36essential oils. And that is why when I
8:39encountered scientific aromatherapy, uh
8:42, a whole new world opened up to me.
8:46Meaning it really is a natural medicine
8:49. It is truly medicine and
8:52aromatherapists in France are
8:54classically doctors. So we are really
8:59in that approach. So that is why we
9:01can't just use essential oils because
9:04they smell good, because they are
9:05perfume. That is the risk. And that is
9:09why, for example, when you go to
9:11England and receive an aromatherapy
9:14treatment, you will have a person who
9:17will craft a synergy based solely on
9:20the fragrance and its resonance with
9:23your state of being, with the spirit.
9:27There will be a very high dilution of
9:28essential oil. So we have a maximum of
9:322%essential oil in 98%carrier vegetable
9:34oil for a massage. So that is really
9:38what dominates in France. It is the
9:41exact opposite. Meaning the very origin
9:43of aromatherapy is scientific and comes
9:47from an accident that took place in the
9:50laboratory of a chemist perfumer named
9:53Mr. Gattefossé, René-Maurice
9:56Gattefossé. And it's the price that
9:59was, uh, given to this attributed,
10:03>> that is precisely the Gattefossé prize
10:04,
10:05>> it's aromatherapy, well it's the use of
10:08aromatic plants or natural plants, well
10:12plants, in improving living conditions,
10:15in the medical world, you know. It's
10:19really that idea because Gattefossé
10:21had an accident in his laboratory, so
10:23it was in the, well it was in 1910.
10:26There was no antibiotic therapy at the
10:29time, not at all, so he couldn't do
10:31anything, he had developed gas gangrene
10:34. So, concretely, he was suffering
10:39terribly and his skin tissues were
10:41beginning to necrose, and that’s when
10:44he had a kind of intuition, because he
10:47had nothing to lose, to ask that true
10:49lavender essential oil be applied to
10:52him. Mm-hmm.
10:55>> Directly, without a carrier oil.
10:56Carrier oils didn't exist. We didn't
10:59use oils for massage, they were for
11:01perfumery. And that is when he was
11:05entirely cured. I mean, the wounds were
11:08gone. There were no more scars. There
11:11are filmed documents of Gattefossé.
11:14You see him in the 30s in his lavender
11:18field, he has no trace left of this
11:21accident which was very serious. So
11:24that is where, indeed, aromatherapy,
11:26even the term aromatherapy, is a French
11:29neologism. Mm-
11:30>> hmm.
11:30>> Which was created by Gattefossé.
11:32>> I see.
11:33>> I see. So it is to speak of the medical
11:37action of essential oils in cases of
11:41infection or fairly serious accidents.
11:45And in fact, even in the Indochina War,
11:49it was Doctor Valnet,
11:51>> he was a doctor
11:52>> who treated with essential oils. He
11:55also treated with antibiotic therapies,
11:57but he realized that antibiotic
11:59therapies had to be dosed increasingly
12:01strongly. When a soldier had, for
12:06example, already received antibiotic
12:08treatment, and so he warned in his book
12:11, which dates from the 50s, the late
12:1450s, he warned against the overly
12:16systematic use of antibiotics, saying
12:19you are going to have a problem, we
12:22will have a problem with resistance to
12:24bacteria.
12:26>> It was visionary, it was visionary, and
12:29that is why he advocated the use of
12:31essential oils as a first-line
12:33treatment.
12:34>> I see. Well then, it's true that, as
12:36you said, Gattefossé had an accident;
12:38in fact, there was literally an
12:40explosion in his laboratory, and so he
12:42recovered thanks to true lavender
12:43essential oil. So, precisely, you said
12:45he didn't have a carrier oil.
12:47Interesting, because today we're going
12:49to look at the different application
12:51methods we can use, how to apply
12:53essential oils, and in particular how
12:55to mix them with carrier oils. Often,
12:58well, vegetable oils, actually. And
13:02you're going to explain to us why.
13:03Because, well, maybe we can start there
13:05, because we get the impression it's to
13:07, I don't know, reduce the strength of
13:09the oil. But in reality, it's more
13:11subtle than that, because the vegetable
13:13oil will also play a role in
13:14accompanying the essential oil when we
13:16apply it. But can you tell us what the
13:18application methods for these oils are?
13:20What should we do?
13:22>> So the first thing is that, indeed,
13:24essential oils are biochemical
13:26compounds of extraordinary density. So
13:30it is the densest, richest form in
13:32which we can have the active
13:34ingredients of an aromatic plant. That
13:37is the first thing. I always say that
13:39the difference, to understand the
13:40difference between thyme herbal tea and
13:42thyme essential oil, is the difference
13:43between mashed potatoes and vodka. That
13:46is to say, both can be interesting,
13:48agreed, but not for the same
13:50applications,
13:51>> not for the same things.
13:52>> Exactly. So there is also this idea of
13:56shelf life. Essential oils don't have a
13:59particularly limited shelf life. So we
14:02will have
14:02>> Yes, that's what I read. It's that we
14:04can keep them for life, actually. There
14:05is no problem. They are, well, it's a
14:07question of legislation, right? For the
14:11moment, you have little bottles of
14:13essential oil that are sold as food
14:15supplements, but they are precisely not
14:18indicated as a first-line treatment for
14:21oral use. So that is very important.
14:23You were talking about how we use
14:26essential oils.
14:28>> Often, because of this great strength
14:30of concentrated active ingredients, we
14:33think that by ingesting them we will
14:35get a better result, but it's quite the
14:37opposite. The biggest risk in using
14:41essential oils for the general public
14:43is the oral route. So
14:45>> that is very important. So there are
14:48cases where we will use essential oils
14:50orally, but it is not the first thing
14:52to do. So that is very important. And
14:56so, an essential oil will already have
14:58aromatic molecules and active
15:00ingredients that are very different
15:02from one essential oil to another. So
15:06they are rich, aren't they? An
15:07essential oil contains about 50
15:10different molecules. Some contain 230.
15:15Finally, we have clary sage, one of the
15:17most complex essential oils, and noble
15:20laurel. Frankly, true lavender; these
15:23are essential oils with such
15:24biochemical complexity that they cannot
15:26be imitated. That is the first thing.
15:30And so, some essential oils will have
15:32properties that are aggressive to the
15:35skin, toxic to the liver, or toxic to
15:37the nervous system. Therefore, we
15:40cannot put all essential oils in the
15:42same basket. You have to know them well
15:44. Hence my great joy in actually being
15:48able to transmit this knowledge,
15:51notably in the online course "Mastering
15:54the Power of Essential Oils," because I
15:57can really delve into the subject and
16:00go into detail on how to use them
16:02effectively without making mistakes.
16:06Because with essential oils, there is a
16:09huge probability of making mistakes. So
16:13you really have to know them well. So
16:15that means when you do a cutaneous
16:17application on the skin, if you don't
16:22add vegetable oil, and you only use the
16:24essential oil. Meaning I put three
16:26drops of Ravensara essential oil on the
16:29forearm.
16:29>> I see. For what use, for example?
16:32>> That's fine there. And Ravensara is an
16:34essential oil that is not aggressive to
16:35the skin.
16:36>> I see.
16:36>> I couldn't do that with thyme thymol,
16:38for example.
16:38>> I see.
16:39>> I can't do it with oregano. Ravensara,
16:41what do you use it for, for immunity,
16:43for...
16:44>> Absolutely. So, for example, during
16:46this season, it's wonderful. You put
16:48three drops of Ravensara essential oil
16:50on the forearm and you rub. It's a
16:52friction, meaning there is no vegetable
16:54oil. That means you can even put it
16:57mostly on the left side. What's more,
16:59you can do both.
17:00>> Left side and right side. But if you
17:03put, let's say, two drops on one side
17:06and two drops on the other, four drops
17:08of Ravensara essential oil—or thyme
17:10linalool, but thyme linalool is good—
17:12or true lavender, if you want. These
17:17four drops of essential oil will go
17:20directly into the blood, and from there
17:23, as it is on the forearm, it will be
17:26distributed by the heart to the whole
17:29organism, and an essential oil has...we
17:33can measure its electrical resistivity.
17:37That is one of the great
17:39particularities of French aromatherapy.
17:42So this scientific aromatherapy. Mm.
17:45>> Hm. Uh, this is work that was done,
17:47originally, it started with Doctor
17:49Valnet because he took up the research
17:52of a contemporary.
17:53>> Yes. Jean Valnet, the
17:55>> Valnet, the the the doctor.
17:58>> Uh, and uh he took up the work of a
18:00contemporary who worked for EDF, it's
18:03uh Claude Vincent.
18:07>> Okay.
18:08>> Louis-Claude Vincent. So, Louis-Claude
18:11Vincent, who worked on resistivity, the
18:13concept of electrical resistivity. So
18:15that means there is an electrical
18:17charge in the vibratory essential oils.
18:21So when he measured blood and
18:22everything, right, it was NASA that
18:24used his research a lot. And when you
18:28measure, for example, the blood of a
18:31healthy person, you get electrical
18:33resistivity measurements of 210 ohms.
18:36>> Okay. True lavender essential oil,
18:40which has no toxicity as such. It is
18:43very gentle, it is pleasant. It is the
18:46lavender at the origin of aromatherapy.
18:48It has a resistivity of 2100 ohms. So
18:52you see that when you apply these four
18:55drops of true lavender to the forearm,
18:58>> it enters
19:00>> into an electrical relationship uh with
19:05the blood. So it increases the
19:09electrical resistivity of the blood,
19:12which effectively equates to
19:14considerably increasing your immune
19:16defenses, your resistance to viral and
19:19bacterial attacks that may come from
19:22the outside. So that's why Gattefossé,
19:27when he started his work on essential
19:30oils from a medical point of view, he
19:32spoke about it, of course, to doctors,
19:35pharmacists, or veterinarians.
19:38Veterinary science did a great deal to
19:41uh lay the scientific foundations
19:44>> for essential oils. And he said that he
19:48was talking about aromatherapy, so the
19:53therapy with essential oils. It's not
19:56with the fragrance but with the
19:57essential oils. But since he was a
20:00perfumer, he added a subtitle. He
20:04called them plant hormones.
20:06>> Yes.
20:06>> So we are in this dimension where the
20:10hormonal or humoral dimension is
20:14inseparable from our immune defense,
20:17from our immune defense because you
20:19have to know who you are to know who
20:22the aggressor is.
20:24>> There is really this logic within our
20:27immune system. Uh, and so it's
20:30interesting, it's not just about weight
20:32, meaning such molecule does such thing
20:35. Okay? Because that is a bit the basis
20:38of, let's say, the pharmaceutical
20:40industry. That is to say, we isolate
20:44active ingredients and we manufacture
20:46them in the lab and we arrange five
20:48different molecules uh and we patent
20:50them. Essential oils cannot be patented
20:54. They change from year to year.
20:55>> It's like the wind. Hm.
20:57>> hm. You have a vintage, say a
20:59Nuits-Saint-Georges, from one year to
21:01the next. It's not the same.
21:04>> There you go, we're dealing with living
21:05things. So I'm, well, I'm very
21:07talkative. I'm sorry because you asked
21:09me to tell you how to apply them. So
21:12first, there is this friction method,
21:15we can apply it by friction, but that
21:17implies a very small amount, right?
21:20Four drops, no more.
21:21>> No more than four drops. Okay. For a
21:24general audience like this, where you
21:26might do, for example, an application
21:28when you're a bit tired, you have
21:30plenty of people who say, "Oh, I'm not
21:32going to work today because I've got a
21:34cold."
21:36>> And so, four drops, and how many times
21:37do you repeat that?
21:38>> So you can do that twice a day, that is
21:40, the four drops of Ravensara. So
21:43Ravensara is an essential oil that
21:45doesn't have any toxicity. All right?
21:48So it's really interesting. Even young
21:52children could benefit from it, meaning
21:55you must reduce the dosage. For a child
21:59from 5 years old, we can put two drops
22:02>> uh
22:03>> on one arm and two drops on the other
22:05>> provided they like the smell. If they
22:08don't like it, you apply it to the sole
22:09of the foot.
22:10>> The path to the heart is a little bit
22:12longer, but it works. In other words,
22:14the diffusion will happen. So that is
22:17the nature of an application without a
22:21carrier oil.
22:22>> Okay.
22:23>> Next, you asked the question, does
22:26adding a carrier oil reduce the effect
22:30>> of the essential oil? Not at all. Not
22:33at all, because it depends on why you
22:36are applying an essential oil. And
22:39because if the essential oil in pure
22:42application enters the blood, but your
22:45issue is not in the blood or in the
22:48body as a whole,
22:50>> but in a very localized way, for
22:52example, on the surface of the skin,
22:55like for example, fungal infections,
22:58>> Yeah.
22:59>> It is strictly useless to apply pure
23:01essential oil.
23:02>> Okay. So people often tell me, because
23:05I am a reflexologist as well, people
23:07tell me, "Ah, I've already used Tea
23:09Tree." Everyone knows Tea Tree, but
23:11Melaleuca alternifolia,
23:14>> I used it for foot fungus problems and
23:17it didn't work.
23:20>> Yes, but how?
23:21>> Well yes, if you apply it pure, you'll
23:24scare off a few bacteria, or rather a
23:26few fungi, that's for sure, but you
23:28won't make the environment unlivable
23:30for them. Meaning, to make the
23:34environment unlivable at the skin level
23:36, you would need to dilute it in a very
23:39dense vegetable oil that stays on the
23:41skin's surface, like castor oil for
23:44example, which is not a massage oil. So
23:46it is a very viscous oil. Therefore, it
23:50will stay on the skin's surface with
23:53the Melaleuca alternifolia. You apply
23:56it to your feet morning and night. You
23:59can even put it in a teaspoon of castor
24:02oil. You add 10 drops of tea tree
24:05essential oil. You mix it well and then
24:09you can massage your feet morning and
24:12night with this synergy. There, there
24:14will be an effect. In 10 days 'time,
24:17there won't be any fungus left.
24:19>> Okay. Uh so, I just want to recall one
24:22thing. You spoke about Doctor Jean
24:24Valnet. I just want to point out that
24:25his book is truly fascinating. It is
24:27still published, or rather reprinted,
24:29reprinted, called Aromatherapy: Healing
24:31Diseases with Plant Essences. It is
24:33truly one of the essentials to have. I
24:35also want to point out your book, which
24:37I won't talk about because I'm not
24:39doing my job properly, but Mastering
24:40the Power of Sacred Oils. I'm showing
24:42it. So it has a unique feature; it is a
24:44book that is not sold in bookstores. It
24:46actually comes with your training
24:48course. When people sign up for your
24:51training, they receive this book for
24:53free in the mail. It is really a book
24:57where you detail, card after card, all
24:59the problems; how to treat digestive
25:01and joint problems, rheumatism, and
25:04obviously skin problems—you mentioned
25:06that—back pain, and so on and so
25:08forth. All the most diverse and varied
25:12pathologies, and sometimes severe ones
25:14—we also talk about cognitive
25:15disorders—and so it's true that we
25:17see that the range of intervention for
25:20essential oils is absolutely,
25:21absolutely phenomenal. Uh, so you
25:24insisted on...perhaps we could just say
25:28a word, since we are in autumn now.
25:32Autumn in your book, I discovered—I
25:34used to think that autumn was the
25:36season when we prepared a detox to face
25:39the winter, and in fact, it is once
25:41again always a bit more subtle than
25:43that.
25:45>> Yes, absolutely, because in terms of
25:48energetic dynamics in autumn, you see
25:50that the leaves take...or rather the
25:52leaves of deciduous plants. Obviously,
25:57the leaves take on a rust color,
25:59meaning they dry up and fall. So, this
26:03means we are in an energetic dynamic in
26:06nature that is heading toward a
26:09retracted, dried-out dynamic, and let's
26:12say a dynamic that goes toward the
26:15ground, toward the inside. So something
26:19that goes toward the inside will advise
26:24us against, in a way, through the logic
26:28of the work, forcefully propelling
26:32energy outward. There is no need to do
26:37work that will, uh, violently expel
26:40anything. That is the work of spring.
26:43That is to say, spring, when the sap
26:45rises. That is when we will be able to
26:47accompany this
26:48>> this gushing forth
26:49>> this gushing forth. And there, the
26:51detox will be really superb.
26:53>> Agreed.
26:53>> Here, we are more in a, uh, deep and
26:57gentle approach. We will be able to
27:01accompany the body in this purification
27:04that must take place.
27:05>> That must take place, that is important
27:06. It is very important that this
27:09purification happens because it is a
27:11purification that will prevent us from
27:14carrying along all the year's toxins,
27:17because in winter, things densify. That
27:20is to say, in winter, you see, well,
27:22the trees are bare, one gets the
27:24impression that the trees are dead, the
27:25plants are dead, but not at all. The
27:28roots are—everything, all the
27:30vitality is underground. So we really
27:33have that idea. So we must avoid
27:37bringing too many toxins into, uh, this
27:40phase of life, okay, where we are in
27:43retreat, we are, uh, at home, we indeed
27:46need to deeply recharge to be able to
27:49spring forth, uh, in the spring. But so
27:54this accompaniment can be done, which
27:57is why we often use products that exist
28:00, uh, in the season we are talking
28:02about. So if there is indeed a fruit
28:06that exists, uh, in this season, uh
28:10>> well, there are several.
28:12>> You will have grapes.
28:13>> Yes.
28:14>> Agreed. So that has nothing to do with
28:16essential oils, we agree.
28:17>> But grapes, this is the time for a
28:18grape cure, that's for sure. Grapes, 3
28:21days of a grape cure, it's wonderful
28:23because we are using a product that is
28:25in harmony with the season. Uh, apples,
28:29it's the time for apple monodiets. It's
28:31perfect because we are once again in
28:33this season where the fruit exists. And
28:36regarding aromatherapy, we will have
28:39fruits of the season, which is to say
28:41citrus. And citrus fruits, it's really
28:45the right time, it's the summer
28:47sunshine that we’ll have to get
28:49through, to give us courage during the
28:51seasons when the sun is scarce. So
28:55it’s the best time to do, for example
28:58, a 10-day treatment with two drops of
29:00lemon essential oil. Lemon, yeah, in a
29:05small teaspoon of olive oil, quite
29:08simply. We don’t take essential oils
29:11pure in the mouth because they absorb
29:13into the mucous membranes anyway. So
29:16the work here should be
29:17stomach-oriented and therefore hepatic.
29:20And in this sense, to do this work of
29:23gentle detox and support, uh, we’re
29:26going to support the body in its toxin
29:30management functions rather than
29:32provoking a purge. Agreed. So
29:36>> support rather than purge. Yes,
29:37that’s it. Yeah, that's it.
29:39>> That’s the idea. So, in any case,
29:41we’re going to do this support, and
29:43therefore with two drops of lemon three
29:46times a day, morning, noon, and night
29:48over a period of 10 days, maximum two
29:50weeks. So we can even do, uh, one week
29:54of taking it, so 7 days, a week off,
29:57and do another week of taking it at a
30:00rate of two drops three times a day in
30:03a little bit of olive oil, right. This
30:06is something that supports the liver,
30:08that supports the body, and we remain
30:10in that harmony. Uh, there you go. Next
30:13, we can of course enjoy baths or
30:16>> detox baths which are very interesting
30:19because, there too, we are into
30:21something that brings us warmth. It’s
30:24the time when we can take baths if you
30:26have a bathtub at home. That’s not
30:27always the most obvious thing in France
30:29, right. It’s you have some, it
30:30depends on the culture. If you are in
30:32the United States, there are bathtubs
30:34in almost every room. So we are in
30:36different cultures. But so in a bath,
30:42for example, you can put a cup of Epsom
30:45salts because that is wonderful. It’s
30:50a, it’s a, it’s a salt that will,
30:54uh, pull toxins out by osmosis. We are
30:57going to draw toxins out of the muscles
30:59and connective tissues. That’s why
31:01it’s very pleasant. It relaxes you
31:03deeply, very soothing. And in this, uh,
31:07this cup or this handful, big handful
31:11of salt,
31:14>> you can put, uh, essential oils that
31:16will be able to accompany this detox,
31:19which are the oils of the season, for
31:22example, cypress. It’s interesting.
31:25Scots pine, wonderful. It’s really
31:28the, the, where, black spruce, black
31:31spruce, Scots pine, uh, all, well,
31:33balsam fir. all these essences, which
31:37are excellent for lung and respiratory
31:39issues. All right.
31:42>> So, just for dosages, we'll put a
31:45maximum of 20 drops of skin-friendly
31:48essential oil for an adult.
31:52>> All right.
31:52>> All right. Who is not a pregnant woman.
31:54Pregnant women, we leave them alone,
31:56okay?
31:57>> No essential oil use in general
31:59>> as a precaution. Exactly. Of course, a
32:01pregnant woman can get sick and can
32:04certainly use essential oils to help,
32:06but that gets into a mindset where you
32:09really need to rely on serious books;
32:11it's simpler.
32:13>> So, I'm going to give you a nice little
32:15synergy for the bath, anyway.
32:16>> Oh, yes.
32:17>> Definitely, because it’s pleasant. So
32:19we'll do 10 drops of balsam fir and 5
32:25drops of spike lavender. And five drops
32:31. What else can I give you that is
32:34fabulous? Oh my, we can add five drops
32:38of laurel noble.
32:40>> All right.
32:41>> All right. So, that gives us 20 drops.
32:43It will be both tonic, quite tonic.
32:45>> Quite tonic
32:46>> because we want to have that little
32:48detox effect. We will have something
32:51that expels gently. Meaning, it
32:54supports you and opens up your bronchi,
32:57your respiratory spheres. So, it's
33:00really interesting. And essential oils
33:03are not miscible in water, so we cannot
33:05dilute them in water. Okay? Putting the
33:10essential oil in salt first won't
33:13protect the skin. Okay? Wait, putting
33:18it in salt first, you mean, well, how
33:21should I say, we don't smear it, we
33:23just let the drops of essential oil
33:26fall, sorry, onto the salts.
33:28>> Yes, there is even something even more
33:30cautious.
33:31>> Yes,
33:33>> because since essential oil is not
33:35miscible in water, it has a hormonal
33:38function. We go back to Gattefossé,
33:42who said they are indeed plant hormones
33:45, like a hormone patch that crosses the
33:47skin, because a vegetable oil doesn't
33:49cross the skin, but an essential oil
33:51does. So, there is this particular
33:54property of essential oils. So, what we
33:59want is to use this property. So it
34:03mixes with anything that is fatty. So
34:07we can mix it with vegetable oil, but
34:09it's not always very safe to have
34:11slippery vegetable oil in a bath.
34:14>> So that’s why I use
34:16>> milk.
34:17>> Oh, milk.
34:17>> Milk is wonderful. But not skimmed milk
34:20. Go for something very creamy. So it
34:24can be whole milk, it can be cream, it
34:27can be almond milk, or coconut milk.
34:33It's really very beneficial to have a
34:37very creamy milk and you take, say, 20
34:40ml, so a little bit of milk. Then you
34:45put your 20 drops of essential oil into
34:47this milk.
34:47>> Uh-huh. Because the essential oil will
34:51be able to mix with the milk, and then
34:53you pour this milk onto the Epsom salts
34:56,
34:56>> okay,
34:57>> so it gets absorbed, and then you put
35:00it all in the bath, and you can run
35:02your bath so that it diffuses into the
35:05water. There are products made for this
35:09, dispersants and all that for water.
35:12But frankly, it's not necessary. You
35:14can do it practically,
35:15>> okay,
35:16>> with what you have in the kitchen. If
35:17you don't have Epsom salts, you can add
35:19coarse salt; that works very well too.
35:22Coarse salt doesn't have the same
35:24properties,
35:24>> but it still has interesting properties
35:26because it's still relaxing. It doesn't
35:29have the same muscle detox properties.
35:34That's something you'll find more in
35:37Epsom salts. But there you go, it's
35:41important to put salt in the bath,
35:43because otherwise, the bath will drain
35:45you of your minerals. That's not a good
35:48thing. Right. That's why people feel
35:50tired when they get out of the bath.
35:52>> Right. Yeah. They shouldn't be tired;
35:54they should be relaxed but in great
35:56shape. So to do that, you must always
35:58put salt, coarse salt, in a bath when
36:01you take one.
36:03>> Thank you very much for these tips. So,
36:04I...we touched on...you touched on some
36:07elements regarding infections,
36:09inflammation, and winter prevention. I
36:11just wanted to say a word about,
36:13nonetheless, the...when we talk about
36:14the power of essential oils. And we
36:17have to realize today that there are,
36:19indeed, some very serious conditions
36:21that are treated, at least partially,
36:24thanks to essential oils. And just to
36:27tell you, for example, at the Nice
36:29University Hospital, you have the
36:30Memory Resources and Research Center
36:32which measures the impact of essential
36:34oils on improving the behavior, motor
36:35skills, and cognitive function of sick
36:37patients. So, we are really talking
36:39here about cognitive impairment. In
36:40Japan, there is a protocol that has
36:42been implemented on a certain number of
36:44patients to conduct trials for those
36:46affected by Alzheimer's disease. They
36:48have actually shown a positive impact
36:51on their cognitive function. And a
36:53final example, at the English
36:55university of Northumbria, researchers
36:57have shown that, for instance, rosemary
36:59essential oil with 1,8-cineole. Now
37:01that is good, a chemotype that greatly
37:04favors cognitive functions. So we are
37:06dealing with, well, when we talk about
37:08the power of essential oils, we
37:09shouldn't reduce them to some kind of
37:11whim for a princess playing shepherdess
37:13. Essential oils are serious, very
37:15serious.
37:16>> Absolutely. But this is very
37:18interesting because here, we are at the
37:20extreme subtlety of essential oils,
37:23because we had started by talking about
37:25essential oils in massage for
37:27relaxation. That is the first thing.
37:30Then, we moved on to Gattefossé with
37:32his experience and the doctors working
37:35on rather infectious issues. So there
37:38are documents that actually exist, even
37:41for infant bronchiolitis, but of course
37:43, it's in a clinical setting.
37:46>> Practiced by doctors, with absolutely
37:49exceptional results on major
37:51pathologies, we agree? It really has
37:54that dimension. Then for pain, pain
37:57management, take an essential oil like
38:00wintergreen that everyone knows, or
38:02yellow birch, which smells like, let's
38:04say, gyms, and that characteristic
38:06smell of wintergreen,
38:09>> well, it's a very, very great
38:11anti-inflammatory.
38:13>> And this molecule that is dominant in
38:15the essential oil
38:18>> led to aspirin. It is the natural
38:22molecule. Yes.
38:23>> that gave us aspirin as a synthetic
38:26molecule. So we see that these
38:28properties are very serious. But what
38:31you are bringing up here is the other
38:33dimension, which is linked to olfaction
38:35. Right? And the effect of a fragrance
38:40on mental sharpness,
38:44>> on neural functioning, and then
38:46behaviorally, of course, everything
38:49linked to mood. So this principle is
38:54part of aromatherapy, in quotes,
38:56because English aromatherapy is an
38:59aromatherapy that wasn't medicinal at
39:01first, but still has very interesting
39:04properties. And so, the Japanese study
39:08is based on this English-style
39:10aromatherapy where we focus on the
39:13efficacy or the effect of a fragrance
39:16on the psychic and neurological
39:18dimension. So the rosemary you are
39:21talking about, well, it's extraordinary
39:23because we have what I call a plant's
39:26signature. I love that.
39:28>> Perhaps we can talk about it. What is
39:29>> It's extraordinary because for me, the
39:31signature is inseparable from the
39:33effect on the psyche. So it's something
39:36that we have uh in every approach uh
39:42Germanic.
39:43>> All right. It's more something that
39:46belongs uh culturally to the Germanic
39:49tradition. We have, for example, in
39:53England, Nicholas Culpeper, who is one
39:55of the very great alchemists,
39:58>> astro-physician, one might say,
40:01>> absolutely, of the era. Exactly. So we
40:03we
40:03>> 16th century, I believe, or something
40:05like
40:05>> that's right. We will work uh on this
40:08idea of similarity, that is to say a
40:10plant that resembles something, a part
40:12of the body for example, or a behavior,
40:15in quotes.
40:17>> Uh, for example, uh earlier I was
40:19talking about the yellow birch. The
40:22birch that everyone knows in Europe,
40:24the birch. The yellow birch is a
40:26magnificent, very kind plant. You can
40:28sit underneath it, you can have a
40:30picnic. It won't make you feel sick.
40:32>> The bir, you're talking about the tree.
40:33>> Yes. Okay.
40:34>> The yellow birch. So this birch, *
40:36Betula alleghaniensis*, uh grows with
40:39its feet in the water. That is to say,
40:42you can have birch trees that grow
40:44almost in ponds of water. Okay, that
40:47drain. So the plant itself is gorged
40:51with fire. Already the color of the
40:54plant, it is it is it is white. It
40:56gives you light. So it's as if it
40:58emitted light from its bark. We use,
41:02for anyone who has ever started a fire
41:04without kindling, well, you take some
41:07>> birch.
41:08>> Well, birch catches just like that.
41:10Meaning there is so much essence
41:13>> condensed in the plant, it is fire.
41:15>> So it is fire that grows in water,
41:16which draws its energy from the water.
41:18There is this idea, and that is what
41:20gives us this extraordinary
41:21anti-inflammatory. Right? So there is
41:24there is this idea. So that is part of
41:25>> it puts out the fire. Well,
41:27>> it puts out the fire.
41:27>> All right.
41:28>> It puts out the fire because we will
41:30say that it warms the joint,
41:33>> all right,
41:33>> which is painful because there is an
41:35excess of water and it is too frozen.
41:38So it will get a painful joint moving
41:41again, it will warm it up, it will call
41:44upon the body's innate
41:46anti-inflammatory properties to soothe
41:49the inflammation.
41:51>> All right.
41:51>> So it's really something very
41:52interesting. But so, uh, this idea is
41:56part of an observational approach that
41:59we have especially in the Germanic
42:02world. So with Nicholas Culpeper. Then
42:05there is Hildegard of Bingen, obviously
42:08, Hildegard of Bingen, Saint Hildegard.
42:12There is the
42:14>> Doctor Bach with the Bach flowers. So
42:17it's this idea of observing the plant,
42:20and from this observation, we deduce a
42:22rather subtle activity.
42:24>> Right?
42:25>> So that is part of English aromatherapy
42:28. And anyway, that's what I started
42:30with. Uh, and what's interesting in the
42:33example given about rosemary, well,
42:34first there are several types of
42:36rosemary. You emphasized that it must
42:39be the rosemary chemotype of the
42:41cineole biochemical type,
42:43>> which has no toxicity for the nervous
42:46system, which is not the case for other
42:48rosemaries. That doesn't mean they
42:51aren't interesting, but they must be
42:53used differently than in a diffuser.
42:56And rosemary, after all, its name, when
42:59you see what it's called, is "dew of
43:02the sea."
43:03>> Mm-hmm.
43:05>> It's the sea spray. So we are dealing
43:08with a plant that carries a rather
43:10masculine dynamic. It's rosemary.
43:12>> Yes.
43:13>> In the French language. So we have this
43:16idea, this proximity to the sea, to the
43:18ocean. And so, symbolically speaking,
43:22it's Neptune, that is to say, the king
43:23of the oceans. But in the king of the
43:28oceans, well in the ocean, lives a
43:30strange little being called the hippe.
43:37In the brain, there exists a strange
43:40little state called the hippe. A part
43:44of our limbic brain called the
43:46hippocampus, which is responsible for
43:50all memory through the olfactory path
43:53in our brain. And that's why rosemary
43:58as an essential oil, as an essence,
44:00will also act through its symbolism. It
44:04tells us what it does; that is to say,
44:06it will bring out
44:08>> from the subconscious, that is to say,
44:11from the depths of the sea, from the
44:13ocean, from oblivion. It will bring out
44:16memory. It will therefore tone our
44:20cognitive capacity. It's extraordinary.
44:23>> Extraordinary. That's what they say:
44:25the ancients didn't have our scientific
44:27studies, but they watched for signs.
44:29Now, what I find interesting in what
44:30you're saying is that you're merging
44:32the two a bit. It's both the signs—
44:34remember, it's the traditional image of
44:36the walnut kernel. Uh, the nut, when
44:40you look at the walnut kernels, it
44:42actually looks a lot like a brain. And,
44:46well, it turns out that studies have
44:49effectively validated the interest and
44:51the protective role of nuts on
44:53cognitive functions. So that's exactly
44:56it. What I find interesting about your
44:58approach is that you actually combine
45:00the two; you reconcile them, one might
45:02say. The approach is both, uh, how to
45:06put it, traditional and civilizational
45:08—having that capacity to read nature,
45:10to understand it, to observe it, to
45:12look at it—and the scientific
45:14validation, which is essential today
45:16and which you truly place at the heart
45:18of your programs, your books, and so on
45:20. Since I see time is flying by, and
45:23you are unfortunately fascinating, I
45:25would just like us to take a small
45:26detour through an approach you have
45:28developed more recently. You wrote a
45:30book notably with Michel Odoul. Michel
45:33Odoul, who is well known for his
45:35approach—how to put it—the famous
45:38connection between "words and ailments"
45:41to summarize things, and you, you have
45:43developed an approach called
45:45phyto-energetics. Can you tell us a
45:48little bit more about it? With great
45:50pleasure. Basically, we wrote the book;
45:53well, it was published in 2005, so it
45:56has been a while, and we have been able
45:59to validate the approach. Because
46:03it’s interesting: when you invent a
46:05system or a bodily therapeutic approach
46:07, you have to validate it. Meaning, of
46:11course, before writing it, we validated
46:13it ourselves in our consultations.
46:17>> But then we trained many practitioners
46:20in shiatsu, in reflexology, who use
46:23this approach—this energetic approach
46:26to essential oils—in their
46:28consultations and who recommend
46:31essential oils in that way. So it is
46:36indeed a very, very specific approach
46:38that connects the universe of Western
46:41aromatherapy, because the distillation
46:44of essential oils from perfume plants
46:46really belongs to the West. It is truly
46:50something very French. We don't have
46:52large-scale distillation of perfume
46:54plants in China, for example. They used
46:57certain principles, but it wasn't
46:58distillation at all; it was mostly for
47:00alcohol. So these are really very
47:03different things, and even in Ayurvedic
47:05culture, we don't have plant
47:06distillation; we have macerations.
47:09Maceration is not distillation. So,
47:11this idea of the transformation
47:14>> of a plant
47:14>> of a plant into its essence is
47:16something fundamental.
47:19>> And so, we are going to link this very
47:21European, very alchemical dimension
47:23that works with the "spiritus," the
47:25spirit, the spirits, right, of
47:27distillation. We are going to associate
47:32it with energetics, and that is, uh,
47:35where Michel Odoul is truly the
47:38specialist in France, uh, for the
47:41energetic approach, uh, of a, well,
47:44traditional Chinese medicine, obviously
47:47. But what is fantastic with Michel is
47:51his capacity for synthesis and being
47:54extremely rigorous, providing a clear,
47:57practical teaching that we can
48:00immediately apply, understanding what
48:03can remain a bit, quote-unquote, very
48:05poetic in the Chinese approach. They
48:09might talk to you about the heart as an
48:10emperor and all that, which is very
48:11fine. But you have to know traditional
48:14>> Chinese society to know what the
48:15emperor is and what he has to do with
48:16his prime minister.
48:18>> Agreed. So it is very poetic, but he
48:21has a very concrete way of translating
48:24that and then, of course, of
48:26associating the words, that is to say,
48:28everything that, uh, can be expressed
48:30on a physiological level in energetic
48:33terms. To understand what is underlying
48:38when someone has a stomach problem, for
48:41example, doesn't digest well, so
48:44stomach burning, burping with acid
48:46reflux. It will be linked to the energy
48:49of the stomach. And to understand what
48:52this stomach energy is, well, it is
48:54linked to thought, it is linked to the
48:56capacity to reflect, but to reflect in
48:58the sense of the Cartesian term. So
49:04someone who tends to overdo it mentally
49:07, to reflect, to have to wrap up files,
49:11uh, risks harming
49:13>> their stomach,
49:14>> the organ, the stomach.
49:16>> Right? So there is all that dimension.
49:18So we have, thanks to this tool that
49:21was developed in French aromatherapy,
49:24that is to say this tool that allows us
49:28to measure the charge, the electrical
49:31values of essential oils, of
49:33biochemical molecules. So the base is
49:37always biochemistry. The scientific
49:39base is fundamental. It's not some sort
49:42of flight of fancy, even if I have a
49:44tendency to be poetic and carried away.
49:48But it is always based on a very, very
49:50solid biochemical foundation, and so to
49:53connect, uh, that is to use this tool
49:55of reading essential oils through their
49:58biochemical profile in energetic terms
50:01and thus to make the link between the
50:03five energetic principles in Chinese
50:05medicine
50:07>> uh
50:08>> and essential oils. So what came out of
50:12it is this discipline called
50:14phytoenergetics, by which we are going
50:18to use an essential oil diluted to 10%
50:21in a carrier vegetable oil, uh, to
50:24apply it on a meridian path, always on
50:27the extremities, uh
50:29>> uh
50:30>> the hands, the feet
50:31>> uh to influence the balance of the
50:34entire meridian.
50:36>> Right. So it's very interesting because
50:40even the idea of the meridian, for many
50:43Western listeners, they might say: "But
50:46meridians haven't been validated." How
50:50do we know they exist? Honestly.
50:53>> These acupuncture points, what even are
50:55they? We can't see them—well, we can
50:59see them, meaning we can, let's say,
51:01identify them very clearly by their
51:03electrical charge. That's why
51:06electroacupuncture exists. I don't know
51:08if any listeners are familiar with
51:10auriculotherapy.
51:11>> Yes. Well, don't hesitate, by the way,
51:13if you are familiar with this type of
51:15therapy, to tell us and share what you
51:17thought of it. Actually, we didn't
51:19mention this earlier, sorry, a quick
51:20aside, but it’s also true for oils.
51:22If there are oils you use, in what
51:23format, in what way, to treat what type
51:25of condition, don't hesitate to share
51:27that. It's always interesting to know
51:30what worked for you, and what didn't
51:32work, too, always. There, end of the
51:34parenthesis, sorry.
51:35>> Absolutely, that is important. And so,
51:39in auriculotherapy, there is a small
51:41tool that will measure the resistivity
51:44of the points. These aren't acupuncture
51:48points, they are reflex points. Right?
51:50But in the same way, we can measure the
51:53electrical charge at a point on the
51:55skin. It's very interesting because
51:59when you place the little detector next
52:01to an acupuncture point, it will beep
52:03at a certain frequency. When you bring
52:06it closer to the point and you are on
52:07the point, it starts screaming. Meaning
52:10it clearly identifies that there is a
52:12change in electrical charge there.
52:14>> Right?
52:14>> So what's interesting is that what we
52:17measure at acupuncture points are
52:20essentially doors, kinds of vortices on
52:23the skin that allow energy to enter. An
52:27energy, because that's why acupuncture
52:29needles are antennas, you know. You
52:32know that metal conducts electricity.
52:35Right? You don't touch a light switch
52:37with something metal, do we agree? So
52:40it conducts energy. So we place needles
52:43on specific points to conduct the
52:45energy. In the same way, we can use
52:48essential oils that have an enormous
52:51vibrational rate and high resistivity
52:55>> on acupuncture points that have a lower
52:58resistivity. So when you put a high
53:02resistivity in resonance with a low
53:05resistivity, you allow that
53:07high-resistivity essential oil to
53:10follow the path of least resistance,
53:12which is the meridian's trajectory.
53:15That's why we dilute it, because
53:17otherwise the essential oil would pass
53:19through, enter the bloodstream, and we
53:20wouldn't have any effect on the
53:22meridian. There you go. So, it's
53:24something fantastic because it allows
53:27for the removal of almost all
53:28contraindications for essential oils,
53:31as you have understood that they are
53:33still very active molecules. When
53:37working at a distance from a vital
53:40organ, meaning we work on the
53:43extremities, you work on acupuncture
53:46points with a high dilution of
53:49essential oil; we bring everything
53:52together—the ability to act on the
53:55energy balance without the toxicity
53:58risks we would have with oral use or by
54:01rubbing an essential oil. Very well.
54:05Well, listen, thank you a thousand
54:07times for these explanations. So, we
54:08are reaching, unfortunately I should
54:10say, the end of this show. And to
54:14conclude, I simply wanted to read you a
54:16little bit about what, in the Great
54:17Visionaries series, most doctors
54:19interviewed in the 1960s said about
54:21essential oils and the power of
54:23aromatherapy. They said, it's a
54:26completely outdated method. Trying to
54:28tackle diseases with aromatic essences
54:30when we have all the resources of
54:32modern chemistry at our disposal. Well,
54:34it would be as ridiculous as going to
54:36war these days with an arquebus or a
54:38blunderbuss. Now, I know we shouldn't
54:40mock, but it's tempting since the exact
54:42opposite is happening. While chemical
54:45medicine and the "all-chemical"
54:46approach, we could say, have
54:48demonstrated their limits in the fight
54:50against cancer, cognitive diseases,
54:52chronic pain, depression, and so on.
54:54Well, everything you want. Well, the "
54:56arquebus" of aromatherapy, on the
54:58contrary, reveals a power and an
54:59efficacy that scientists—and we are
55:01talking about science—applaud a
55:03little more each day. So granted, the
55:06road has been long and there are still
55:08plenty of surprises, but in writing
55:09these lines, well, we can only pay
55:11tribute to the pioneers of aromatherapy
55:12. So, you mentioned earlier Jean Valnet
55:15, Gattefossé, there are also Kousmine,
55:17Meuris, Lemaire, Binet, uh, all these
55:19people who have contributed to the
55:21knowledge of treatment using plant
55:22essences. And also a huge thank you for
55:26coming today, for all these pieces of
55:29information you have given us. Uh I'm
55:32reminding you of your training course
55:34called Mastering the Power of Essential
55:37Oils. So this is the book called
55:39Mastering the Power of Essential Oils
55:41which comes uh which is offered when
55:42you sign up for your course. The link
55:45will obviously be displayed in the
55:46description. And also another another
55:49well another proposal you have, so to
55:50speak, the phyto-energetics that you
55:52developed with Michel Odoul. And there
55:55too, we will put a link uh in the video
55:57description. Is it A big thank you, you
56:00really make us dream with these oils.
56:03Uh I hope that if there are any among
56:04you who haven't taken the plunge yet,
56:06well they will. Uh they will perhaps
56:07try and embark on this adventure. In
56:09any case, a huge thank you. Don't
56:11hesitate to leave a like. Uh see you
56:13very soon and see you all soon for a
56:16new episode of Santé Libre.
56:19>> Thank you very much Gabriel. Goodbye.

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