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1. 0:00I want to go back to Madeline. So, my
2. 0:02question was because the research that
3. 0:04I'm reading says that vitamin D does not
4. 0:06cause trigger or create a B vitamin
5. 0:07deficiency.
6. 0:08>> No, it's not in the literature except my
7. 0:10article.
8. 0:12>> Taking vitamin D supplements will not
9. 0:14drain your
10. 0:15your body's B vitamins.
11. 0:17>> Let me read my my title. Vitamin D
12. 0:19deficiency changes the intestinal
13. 0:21microbiome reducing B vitamin production
14. 0:24in the gut. The resulting lack of
15. 0:26pantothenic acid adversely affects the
16. 0:28immune system producing a
17. 0:29pro-inflammatory state associated with
18. 0:31atherosclerosis and autoimmunity. This
19. 0:34is a brand new discovery
20. 0:36made by someone who's not a scientist,
21. 0:39who's not working in the primary lab,
22. 0:41who is a clinician, and the impact of
23. 0:44this
24. 0:46is only as strong as I can get the the
25. 0:50ideas out there and talk about what
26. 0:53happened to my patients. Now,
27. 0:55>> Is it Is it plausible that there's a
28. 0:57sort of a intermediary link
29. 1:00um between the two? I'm reading some
30. 1:02things here that say people are very
31. 1:04frequently both low in vitamin D and
32. 1:05vitamin B12 at the same time, and this
33. 1:07is because they share the same root
34. 1:08cause like a poor gut absorption, aging,
35. 1:10or a restrictive diet, not because one
36. 1:12vitamin is destroying the other.
37. 1:15>> That's what we've been told.
38. 1:18We've also been told that old people
39. 1:19don't need as much sleep, and that old
40. 1:22people get a bad gut as they get old.
41. 1:25It is my belief now that it is
42. 1:28there is an absolute link between the
43. 1:30production of D. And I don't have the
44. 1:32articles for this even though this is
45. 1:34dogma at the moment. That our production
46. 1:36of vitamin D goes down as we get older.
47. 1:39So, if you look back to that person who
48. 1:41was 75, who didn't get sick until they
49. 1:44were 75,
50. 1:47their skin production, even though
51. 1:49they're still out there with their truck
52. 1:50farm and still raising their own food,
53. 1:52their skin production rate of vitamin D
54. 1:54goes down, and this is probably true for
55. 1:56every animal.
56. 1:58And then, as their D goes low, they lose
57. 2:00their microbiome, and then they die of
58. 2:03one of the multiple diseases that are
59. 2:04linked to this multiple deficiency
60. 2:06state. It's a different lens to look
61. 2:09through that says
62. 2:12there is actually
63. 2:14a system that allowed us to live without
64. 2:16medical problems that weren't either
65. 2:19related to epidemics of childhood
66. 2:22illness or starving to death. And as
67. 2:25long as we had good diets, you can
68. 2:27actually look at 1945 to about 1985 and
69. 2:29say, "What was the ideal for the humans
70. 2:32that lived rurally in the United States?
71. 2:34Did they live to be 75 years old and
72. 2:37then get diseases?"
73. 2:39So, it's my claim that those people
74. 2:40didn't go to the doctor cuz there
75. 2:42weren't any around them.
76. 2:44And then, things started to happen to
77. 2:46them. Then, instead of looking at it
78. 2:48through the lens of this disease means
79. 2:51this drug,
80. 2:52then instead, we say we should pre-
81. 2:55preventing this by paying attention to
82. 2:57what vitamin D does in the body
83. 2:59and what the B's do in the body.
84. 3:02And ultimately,
85. 3:06that is linked to most of our diseases.
86. 3:08>> Okay, so I'll read the conclusion of
87. 3:10your study here, which was published in
88. 3:112016. I hypothesize, and it's important
89. 3:14to say this is a hypothesis, that the
90. 3:15parallel epidemics of abnormal sleep and
91. 3:18abnormal intestinal microbiome are
92. 3:20linked to one another through vitamin D
93. 3:22deficiency. Proper supplementation doses
94. 3:25of vitamin D plus all eight B vitamins
95. 3:27appears to return the intestinal
96. 3:28microbiome to normal in 3 months.
97. 3:31Reinstating the normal microbiome not
98. 3:33only treats IBS symptoms, it returns the
99. 3:34supply of vitamin
100. 3:37B's to their natural daily doses. The B
101. 3:40vitamins are neither good for us nor
102. 3:41unnecessary. They are good for the
103. 3:43person who needs them and only until the
104. 3:45normal source picks up again. Both sleep
105. 3:48disruption and pain can be caused by
106. 3:49large doses of B vitamins once the
107. 3:52intestinal microbiome has returned to
108. 3:53normal. The B vitamins are very
109. 3:56biologically intertwined both in their
110. 3:58intestinal production and cellulose
111. 4:00cellular use. This suggests that B
112. 4:02vitamins aside from B12 were not meant
113. 4:04to be used individually and returning to
114. 4:06restorative sleep with normal supply of
115. 4:08the building blocks of cellular repair
116. 4:10has the potential to repair the
117. 4:12pro-inflammatory state seen in
118. 4:14association with atherosclerosis.
119. 4:18>> Atherosclerosis.
120. 4:19>> As well as the hyperandrogenic
121. 4:22state of associated with hypertension,
122. 4:24heart disease, and stroke. It appears
123. 4:25that given the proper essential elements
124. 4:27for normal sleep, the body is designed
125. 4:29to repair every physical injury that
126. 4:31occurs during normal daily use and may
127. 4:33even retain a memory of long deferred
128. 4:35repairs. So, essentially you're saying
129. 4:37that um
130. 4:39if you can return the body's vitamin D
131. 4:42and and B levels to normal,
132. 4:45then the body will kick back up and
133. 4:46start producing
134. 4:48the um
135. 4:50everything it needs. But, I guess the
136. 4:52scientific consensus at the moment is
137. 4:54saying that there's not a
138. 4:55link between vitamin D
139. 4:58and a vitamin B Well, it's saying that
140. 5:00vitamin D does not cause a vitamin B
141. 5:02deficiency.
142. 5:03>> Correct.
143. 5:04>> And you disagree with that.
144. 5:05>> Absolutely.
145. 5:06>> And could it be the case that
146. 5:08there's some intermediary link? I e. If
147. 5:10I take
148. 5:11if I take lots of vitamin D, it disrupts
149. 5:14my magnesium production and the
150. 5:17magnesium production is having an impact
151. 5:18on vitamin B and could it be the case
152. 5:20that it's something else?
153. 5:21>> Yes, of course.
154. 5:24>> Okay.
155. 5:25>> And in fact, it's way more complicated
156. 5:28than you and I have talked about.
157. 5:30And where you finally arrive is actually
158. 5:33at coenzyme A deficiency.
159. 5:36And that is a very important chemical.
160. 5:39It runs our mitochondrial health and our
161. 5:42ability to make energy and it's linked
162. 5:45to all the
163. 5:46degenerative
164. 5:47diseases, so
165. 5:49it's not that
166. 5:52I don't understand the
167. 5:55idea that once you're a hammer
168. 5:57everything's a nail, because that's what
169. 5:59I was told by all of my colleagues that
170. 6:02you're trying to explain everything.
171. 6:04It's that I saw Madeline go back to work
172. 6:08and we haven't even talked about what
173. 6:09happened to Natalie.
174. 6:10>> What happened to Natalie?
175. 6:11>> Natalie got better and actually
176. 6:14>> How?
177. 6:15>> She first with the D, like most of the
178. 6:18patients, she started to sleep better,
179. 6:20but at the end of two years she stopped
180. 6:22sleeping better.
181. 6:24She actually lost weight, which was the
182. 6:26case with several of the women that were
183. 6:28postpartum who had complained about
184. 6:30that.
185. 6:31So in some my interpretation was in
186. 6:34someone who's less affected than
187. 6:36Madeline was, the D B50 combination,
188. 6:39especially in the setting of being after
189. 6:42the pregnancy, is really all somebody
190. 6:44who was relatively normal at the start
191. 6:47of their life needs.
192. 6:49And then she got better,
193. 6:51her antidepressant went away, her
194. 6:54postpartum depression cleared, her high
195. 6:57heart rate. So the other thing that we
196. 6:58didn't mention is many of these women
197. 7:00who are very interested in exercise and
198. 7:03doing exercise had high heart rates of
199. 7:05110 or above sitting quietly and had not
200. 7:09been like that before. Their high heart
201. 7:11rates come down.
202. 7:12So she came back to being her normal
203. 7:15self again.
204. 7:16>> And did she have to come off the vitamin
205. 7:18B?
206. 7:18>> She only took it for three months.
207. 7:20>> Okay, and she
208. 7:21>> And then she did a multivitamin and then
209. 7:23eventually almost everybody needs to be
210. 7:25off the multivitamin completely. It is
211. 7:27my belief that if all of this happened
212. 7:30spontaneously in every other animal on
213. 7:32the planet
214. 7:34then we shouldn't have to take
215. 7:35supplements either. The squirrels are
216. 7:37not going to GNC to buy supplements.
217. 7:40That means if there's a mistake made,
218. 7:43like we move indoors and we give back
219. 7:46what is needed to get the normal
220. 7:48microbiome,
221. 7:50then you should assume that your body
222. 7:53will go back to supporting itself.
223. 7:56>> And Natalie is she's good again?
224. 7:58>> Natalie is back to being
225. 8:00a triathlete and doing great.
226. 8:02>> If we zoom out for a second, what is the
227. 8:04advice you'll give to all of my
228. 8:06listeners now? There might be millions
229. 8:07of them all over the world, some of
230. 8:08which are struggling with sleep. Some of
231. 8:10them just want to you know, optimize
232. 8:11their sleep a little bit. What is the
233. 8:12the over overarching advice? The thing
234. 8:14that all of them could could do to make
235. 8:16sure they sleep better in your view?
236. 8:18>> One, do the behavioral cognitive stuff
237. 8:20first. Make the blackout curtains, do
238. 8:22the whole thing.
239. 8:24If you haven't done that with the eye
240. 8:26cover,
241. 8:28then go ahead and do that. And if that's
242. 8:29all you need, do not mess around with
243. 8:32supplements.
244. 8:34Two, if you've already done the
245. 8:36behavioral changes,
246. 8:38then go to my website, read about the
247. 8:41ideas, or listen to this podcast and see
248. 8:44whether or not the ideas there feel like
249. 8:47they apply to you.
250. 8:49>> You've come up with this protocol called
251. 8:50the right sleep protocol. What is that?
252. 8:53And can you walk me through it?
253. 8:54>> Sure. So, the right sleep program is
254. 8:58a process of taking your D to a certain
255. 9:00level,
256. 9:02supplementing B12 if your B12 is at a
257. 9:04certain level below a certain level,
258. 9:07taking B50 for 3 months,
259. 9:10and then taking a multivitamin.
260. 9:12And that is until your body says, "Gee,
261. 9:15I might need more
262. 9:17B's."
263. 9:19This is a diagram
264. 9:21and you have a beautiful stepwise
265. 9:24a visual assist here.
266. 9:26The first
267. 9:273 months, if your B12 is low, you will
268. 9:30take B12 as a separate supplement. And
269. 9:32keep in mind there's a lot to be learned
270. 9:34about multivitamins. For instance,
271. 9:37many multivitamins say multivitamin on
272. 9:39the front, but they actually have the
273. 9:41equivalent of B50 in them.
274. 9:44They have 50 mg of all these B vitamins.
275. 9:47In fact, if you go to an expensive
276. 9:48vitamin store, they put up the doses of
277. 9:51B's.
278. 9:52The doses of these vitamins are
279. 9:54extremely important for the way you feel
280. 9:57every day.
281. 9:59If you get it right, you feel energetic,
282. 10:01perky, and wonderful all day. If you get
283. 10:02it wrong, you feel awful in the same way
284. 10:04you did before. You have to look at the
285. 10:06back. You have to learn some of the name
286. 10:07of these vitamins. Most people are not
287. 10:09that interested in that. If you want to
288. 10:11get better, that's what you have to do.
289. 10:13So, the first step is you're taking all
290. 10:15four of these, then
291. 10:18in the second step,
292. 10:20for a period of usually 3 to 4 months,
293. 10:24you're still taking B12 if you were B12
294. 10:26deficient.
295. 10:28You're still taking vitamin D, and
296. 10:29you're adjusting your vitamin D dosing
297. 10:32based on recommendations based on your D
298. 10:34levels that you're doing every month,
299. 10:36and I show you how to get them done
300. 10:38properly because the vitamin D levels
301. 10:40that your doctor is doing are not
302. 10:42accurate, unfortunately, nor do they
303. 10:44know that or care.
304. 10:46And you're still taking a multivitamin.
305. 10:49Then,
306. 10:50>> [clears throat]
307. 10:50>> after the 3 months that are depicted
308. 10:54here,
309. 10:55it turns out if your sleep is much
310. 10:58better,
311. 11:00you will actually get to a place
312. 11:02where
313. 11:04your body will stop sleeping well again.
314. 11:08And it turns out that your brain is
315. 11:10asking for more
316. 11:12additional B's.
317. 11:13The basic bottom line is the sleep is a
318. 11:16thing that once you learn how to use it,
319. 11:19and once you learn the concept that
320. 11:22if in the third or fourth month of this
321. 11:24program, my sleep gets much better,
322. 11:28and then in the sixth month it gets
323. 11:30worse again, what you should take from
324. 11:32that is my brain really knows how to do
325. 11:35this. It was able to get me to sleep
326. 11:38from 10:00 to 6:00 with one brief wake
327. 11:41up,
328. 11:42went back to sleep, didn't get up to
329. 11:43pee, and I have no pain when I wake up,
330. 11:45and I feel energetic all day long. It
331. 11:48knows how to do that.
332. 11:49When it doesn't do it again 2 months
333. 11:52later, the message is not, "Oh man, I
334. 11:55knew it wouldn't work cuz everything
335. 11:57else I've tried didn't work." Instead,
336. 11:59it means
337. 12:00what my brain is asking for is something
338. 12:03else. Then,
339. 12:05you address that.
340. 12:08On my website, I also have multiple
341. 12:11videos of Q&As addressing questions
342. 12:14like, "I'm in the fifth month and this
343. 12:17happened to me, etc."
344. 12:19So, what I would give as advice is one,
345. 12:22supplementation is only good for you if
346. 12:25there's something wrong with you that
347. 12:27you're trying to correct.
348. 12:30Two, keep a log of what happens to that
349. 12:33thing
350. 12:34because we tend to forget. All my
351. 12:36headache patients forget that they had
352. 12:38headaches when they go away. That's
353. 12:40challenging to a clinician cuz they come
354. 12:43back and they say, "Yeah, I still have
355. 12:45headaches." And then their husband says,
356. 12:47"Wait, we were in Vegas
357. 12:492 weeks ago and you said we didn't you
358. 12:50didn't have any headaches at all."
359. 12:52And she says, "Oh, I know, but they're
360. 12:54back now." We view it as it should have
361. 12:56fixed me and now it hasn't. This is a
362. 12:58different belief system where the answer
363. 13:01is your brain is asking you for
364. 13:03something. Interpreting what it's asking
365. 13:05for is difficult but possible.
366. 13:07>> So, number one was
367. 13:10>> If you do not have something wrong with
368. 13:12you, do not mess with supplements,
369. 13:14especially D.
370. 13:15>> Number two is keep a log.
371. 13:17>> read more, think about it. Think about
372. 13:19it a little bit. Think about whether or
373. 13:21not there things that are bothering you.
374. 13:22>> Okay. Number three
375. 13:24>> Number three is if there's something
376. 13:25bothering you, then decide you're
377. 13:27actually going to take some time
378. 13:30and you're going to learn about a system
379. 13:32which allows you to give supplements
380. 13:34that lets your body be fully replete,
381. 13:38which means fills up all the
382. 13:39deficiencies, and that your final
383. 13:42outcome will be great sleep, great
384. 13:45repair, and you will be doing things
385. 13:48that will allow your body to prevent
386. 13:51degenerative illness.
387. 13:52>> Why don't you just, you know, why don't
388. 13:53I just, instead of taking supplements,
389. 13:55will be this, be that, be the other D,
390. 13:57whatever. Why don't I just go outside in
391. 14:00the sun and have a better diet?
392. 14:02>> I think that's a great
393. 14:05question, and
394. 14:06here's the problem.
395. 14:08>> So, I've got, you know, I've got all
396. 14:08these things, these wonderful things
397. 14:10here.
398. 14:11I've got
399. 14:12I've got some kimchi, which is good for
400. 14:14the gut microbiome, I've heard. I've got
401. 14:16kombucha.
402. 14:17I've got, uh,
403. 14:18some yogurt thing here. I've got, I
404. 14:20don't even pronounce that.
405. 14:21>> Sauerkraut.
406. 14:21>> Sauerkraut.
407. 14:22And I've got some kefir. Why don't I
408. 14:24just
409. 14:25have all this stuff, which is great for
410. 14:27my gut microbiome, and then go outside
411. 14:29and spend spend the morning in the
412. 14:31sunshine getting up improving my vitamin
413. 14:32D levels. Presumably, this is going to
414. 14:34help my gut, and the sunshine is going
415. 14:36to help my vitamin D. Voilà.
416. 14:38>> I think you could actually do that. If
417. 14:40there's not much wrong with you, I think
418. 14:42that's the better path, frankly.
419. 14:45Supplementing with vitamin D is not the
420. 14:47same as being outdoors. Okay, explain
421. 14:50that to me.
422. 14:51>> What do you mean it's not the same? How
423. 14:52is it different? Cuz my doctor did a
424. 14:54blood test recently, and, uh, I did two
425. 14:56blood tests. One at Nico Health, #had a
426. 14:57#investor.
427. 14:59Um, Nico Health, and
428. 15:01the Nico Health test that I did said I
429. 15:03was vitamin D deficient, which doesn't
430. 15:05surprise me cuz I live in this dark
431. 15:06bunker.
432. 15:08I don't I never leave the DriveTribe
433. 15:09studio. People just walk in, and I live
434. 15:10in here, and I eat in here, and I
435. 15:12But I'm vitamin D deficient, it said.
436. 15:14So, I went to the store, and I just
437. 15:15started taking vitamin D. I assume
438. 15:16that's fixed it.
439. 15:18Why is vitamin D supplementation
440. 15:20different from being out in the sun?
441. 15:22>> There is a lot of literature about by a
442. 15:24gal named Stephanie Seneff who says that
443. 15:27the vitamin D that we make on our skin
444. 15:29skin is sulfated, which is different
445. 15:31than the vitamin D we're taking as
446. 15:33supplemented.
447. 15:34And it has a different behavior in the
448. 15:36body. Number two, it turns out there's a
449. 15:38lot of literature that shows that
450. 15:40vitamin D is not the only thing made by
451. 15:42UVB hitting your your skin. And what
452. 15:44it's hitting is cholesterol.
453. 15:46And that cholesterol is changed in this
454. 15:48chemical called D 3.
455. 15:51But there are
456. 15:52probably 15, 20 other chemicals that are
457. 15:55being made at the same time.
458. 15:58>> Okay.
459. 15:58>> They are not being taken with that pill
460. 16:00of vitamin D3. That is a separate
461. 16:03literature that's just gotten really
462. 16:06some attention in the last 10 years.
463. 16:08There are all these other things that
464. 16:10prevent inflammation, that do things to
465. 16:13your skin, that were actually being made
466. 16:16by the sunlight that you're being
467. 16:18exposed to, that protects you from the
468. 16:20damaging effects.
469. 16:22>> So why can't someone who is really
470. 16:23struggling with their sleep, why can't
471. 16:25the prescription just be
472. 16:27improve your your diet?
473. 16:29>> Have you tried that with patients where
474. 16:30you said you've not?
475. 16:32>> One of the reasons why these are
476. 16:34effective
477. 16:35>> The the the
478. 16:36>> the fermented foods, okay? Fermented
479. 16:39food means you're eating rotting food.
480. 16:43That's not the way we call it because it
481. 16:45sounds disgusting, okay? But bacteria
482. 16:48are growing in here
483. 16:50>> Yeah.
484. 16:50>> and they're secreting things like B
485. 16:52vitamins and reuteri. They're making a
486. 16:55yeast bacterial mixture. So there's
487. 16:57fungus growing in there, there are
488. 16:59viruses in there, there are many
489. 17:01microbes.
490. 17:02>> Microbes.
491. 17:02>> Microbes, thank you.
492. 17:03>> Huh, look at me.
493. 17:06Look at you.
494. 17:06>> You're awesome. That means you're eating
495. 17:08bacteria. You're basically eating a food
496. 17:11that has to be 50 in it.
497. 17:13>> Which is great.
498. 17:14>> Yeah. So
499. 17:15>> So why don't you give that to your pa-
500. 17:16>> Because I have no idea what the time
501. 17:18frame will be for this having that
502. 17:21success for you. This is the easy way.
503. 17:24This is the fast way. This is the way I
504. 17:26can tell you that I've had more
505. 17:28experience with my clients over time.
506. 17:31And if you want to fix something that's
507. 17:33really badly off, by the time you get a
508. 17:35sleep disorder
509. 17:36>> that can't see cuz they're just
510. 17:37listening on audio, you're pointing at
511. 17:38the vitamins.
512. 17:39>> I'm pointing at the vitamins and the
513. 17:41step-wise approach which is right there.
514. 17:43>> and easy approach.
515. 17:44>> Exactly. And if you don't want to use
516. 17:46supplements, I would support you all the
517. 17:48way.
518. 17:49>> In doing what?
519. 17:50>> In going outside, just what you
520. 17:52described. I think the healthier
521. 17:54approach to all of our diseases is to be
522. 17:58outside much more and to include these
523. 18:02fermented foods.
524. 18:03>> Now on this point of being outside much
525. 18:04more, some people live in cloudy places,
526. 18:06you know, I spent a lot of my life
527. 18:07living in places like London in the UK.
528. 18:09And there's not much sunlight.
529. 18:11>> Right.
530. 18:11>> So what do I do about that?
531. 18:12>> Remember how I said that Madeleine was a
532. 18:14redhead?
533. 18:15>> Yeah.
534. 18:16>> That turns out to be important. So
535. 18:18melanin is the pigment that humans have
536. 18:21in their skin.
537. 18:22>> [clears throat]
538. 18:22>> You have more than I do. I put more
539. 18:24melanin as I stay out in the sun more
540. 18:27and I tan.
541. 18:28>> Mhm.
542. 18:28>> [clears throat]
543. 18:29>> That melanin is absorbing energy. It's
544. 18:31there to protect you from overexposure
545. 18:34to sunlight and damaging effects on the
546. 18:37DNA of your skin.
547. 18:39The redhead gene usually comes with
548. 18:41freckles, which means that there is only
549. 18:43little tiny parts of the skin that have
550. 18:45melanin.
551. 18:47And the redhead gene came about in the
552. 18:49far north Viking Scotland.
553. 18:53And those places don't get much
554. 18:56sunlight. That means it cleared out the
555. 18:58blocker
556. 19:00of the thing that collected that energy
557. 19:03and allowed people who lived in very
558. 19:06overcast environments to make D because
559. 19:09the melanin didn't block the conversion
560. 19:12to vitamin D and all these other things
561. 19:13that it does.
562. 19:14>> So, redheads actually have a bit of a
563. 19:15superpower when it comes to their
564. 19:17relationship with the sunshine. They can
565. 19:19make significantly more.
566. 19:20>> That depends. Now, if you pick up all
567. 19:22the Scotsmen
568. 19:24and you put them in Texas and Oklahoma,
569. 19:27which is where I live,
570. 19:28and many of the people there
571. 19:30have red hair and they came from
572. 19:32Scotsmen. The problem is they're now in
573. 19:34an environment with very high sun
574. 19:37levels. It's very hot in the summer. And
575. 19:40they cannot tolerate the level of sun.
576. 19:43That means if you get to a point on the
577. 19:45world where you pick up big populations
578. 19:47and you move them into another weather
579. 19:49type, they have not had enough time to
580. 19:51adapt. There are things about melanin
581. 19:53amounts
582. 19:55and our survival that make a difference.
583. 19:58So, I still recommend that supplementing
584. 20:01with D is not the whole answer.
585. 20:04Supplementation in and of itself is not
586. 20:06what we want. What we want is our kids
587. 20:08to be outside much more. There are now
588. 20:10new learning environments for kids where
589. 20:13they're out in the forests,
590. 20:15where they're not enclosed in
591. 20:17schoolrooms.
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