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  1. 0:00I know what you've been doing. You've
  2. 0:01been going back through the photos. Not
  3. 0:04all of them, just the good ones. The one
  4. 0:06from that trip. The one where they're
  5. 0:08laughing at something and the light is
  6. 0:10hitting them exactly right. You've
  7. 0:12looked at it more times than you would
  8. 0:14ever admit to anyone. You've been
  9. 0:16listening to songs that you have no
  10. 0:17business listening to right now. You
  11. 0:19know which ones. the ones that you
  12. 0:21basically turned into a soundtrack for a
  13. 0:23movie about the two of you, your
  14. 0:25relationship, a movie that's much better
  15. 0:27than the relationship actually was.
  16. 0:29You've been checking their Instagram,
  17. 0:31maybe not their main feed. You're
  18. 0:32smarter than that, but their stories for
  19. 0:34sure at 1:00 a.m. trying to figure out
  20. 0:37who that person in the background of the
  21. 0:39photo is. You've been having
  22. 0:41conversations with them in your head.
  23. 0:43long, articulate, emotionally
  24. 0:45devastating conversations where you
  25. 0:47finally say everything you should have
  26. 0:49said and they finally understand and
  27. 0:52something resolves and then you come
  28. 0:54back to reality and they haven't texted
  29. 0:58and somehow that hurts more than the
  30. 1:00imaginary conversation.
  31. 1:02You've been doing the math. How many
  32. 1:04days since you last spoke? whether
  33. 1:06they're thinking about you, what they're
  34. 1:08doing right now, whether the thing you
  35. 1:10said in that argument three months
  36. 1:12before the end was the thing that
  37. 1:14actually ended it. And in your most
  38. 1:16honest moments, the 3:00 a.m. ones or
  39. 1:19the Tuesday afternoon ones when you're
  40. 1:21supposed to be working, you've been
  41. 1:23telling yourself a story. The story goes
  42. 1:26something like this. It was so good.
  43. 1:29I've never felt that way before. I don't
  44. 1:31know if I'll ever feel that way ever
  45. 1:32again.
  46. 1:34Maybe we gave up too soon. Maybe they
  47. 1:36were the one. I'm going to need you to
  48. 1:39sit with me for 30 minutes today because
  49. 1:41I need to tell you something about that
  50. 1:43story, about your brain, about what's
  51. 1:45actually happening when you romanticize
  52. 1:48your ex. When you romanticize someone
  53. 1:50you've lost, and about what's waiting
  54. 1:52for you on the other side of this
  55. 1:54spiral, if you're willing to walk
  56. 1:56through it rather than loop it around
  57. 1:58forever. This is not a you'll be fine
  58. 2:01pep talk. This is not toxic positivity
  59. 2:04wearing a therapy speak costume. This is
  60. 2:06the real thing. The neuroscience, the
  61. 2:08psychology, the ancient wisdom, and the
  62. 2:10practical tools because you deserve the
  63. 2:13actual truth more than you deserve to
  64. 2:16feel temporarily soothed. Ready? Let's
  65. 2:19go. This is the harsh truth. Your brain
  66. 2:22is lying to you. And I want to share
  67. 2:24with you the neuroscience of why they
  68. 2:26seem perfect now that they're gone.
  69. 2:29Let's start with the most important
  70. 2:31thing. The person you are missing does
  71. 2:35not exist. Not doesn't exist anymore.
  72. 2:40Not exists but is different now. Not
  73. 2:42exists but is with someone else. The
  74. 2:44specific person you're currently
  75. 2:46grieving. The one who appears in the
  76. 2:48photos you keep returning to. The one
  77. 2:50who stars in the mental highlight reel
  78. 2:52you keep playing. The one who felt
  79. 2:53irreplaceable and perfect and like
  80. 2:56coming home. That person is a
  81. 2:58construction, a story your brain is
  82. 3:00telling you. And your brain right now is
  83. 3:02a profoundly unreliable narrator. Here's
  84. 3:05why. When we experience loss, the brain
  85. 3:08does something that is genuinely
  86. 3:09astonishing from a neuroscience
  87. 3:11perspective and genuinely cruel from a
  88. 3:14human one. It edits. Memory is not a
  89. 3:17recording. We have known this in
  90. 3:20psychology for decades, but it runs
  91. 3:22counter to how memory feels. We
  92. 3:25experience our memories as faithful
  93. 3:27replications of what happened. They're
  94. 3:29not. Every time you retrieve a memory,
  95. 3:32you're not playing it back. You're
  96. 3:34reconstructing it. And every
  97. 3:36reconstruction is influenced by your
  98. 3:38current emotional state, your current
  99. 3:40needs, and your current narrative about
  100. 3:42who you are and what your life means.
  101. 3:45This was established definitively by the
  102. 3:47cognitive psychologist Elizabeth
  103. 3:49Loftess, one of the most important and
  104. 3:51most underappreciated scientists of the
  105. 3:5320th century. Her research on memory
  106. 3:56distortion showed that human memory is
  107. 3:59extraordinarily malleable. We add
  108. 4:02details that weren't there. We remove
  109. 4:04details that were there. We
  110. 4:06unconsciously rewrite what happened to
  111. 4:09fit what we believe, what we feel, and
  112. 4:11what we need to be true. Now apply that
  113. 4:14to a relationship you've just lost. Your
  114. 4:16brain is in a state of loss. And in a
  115. 4:18state of loss, the brain is a very
  116. 4:20specific and predictable bias. It
  117. 4:23amplifies the positive and suppresses
  118. 4:24the negative in memories of what was
  119. 4:27lost. This is not a quirk. This is not
  120. 4:29weakness. This is a documented
  121. 4:31neurological phenomenon. The moments of
  122. 4:34warmth, connection, laughter, and
  123. 4:36intimacy get vivid. The chronic pattern
  124. 4:39of dismissal. The way they made you feel
  125. 4:42small in front of their friends. The way
  126. 4:44they went cold when you needed the most.
  127. 4:46The Sunday arguments that always circled
  128. 4:48the same drain. Those get fuzzy, dimmed,
  129. 4:52explained away. You end up remembering a
  130. 4:55relationship that was approximately 40%
  131. 4:57better than the one you actually had.
  132. 4:59And here's the other thing happening in
  133. 5:00your brain simultaneously. When you were
  134. 5:02in the relationship, your brain's reward
  135. 5:05system, the dopamine circuits, adapted
  136. 5:07to the presence of your partner. They
  137. 5:10became a predicted reward, something
  138. 5:12your brain had learned to anticipate and
  139. 5:14plan around. When the relationship ends,
  140. 5:16that reward prediction is suddenly
  141. 5:19violently disrupted. And the disruption
  142. 5:21of a predicted reward is neurologically
  143. 5:24identical to withdrawal. This is not
  144. 5:26metaphor. Researchers at Ruckers
  145. 5:29University, Helen Fischer and her
  146. 5:30colleagues, put people who had recently
  147. 5:32been rejected in romantic relationships
  148. 5:35into an fMRI scanner and showed them
  149. 5:38photos of their ex. This will shock you.
  150. 5:41The brain regions that activated were
  151. 5:44the same ones that activate in cocaine
  152. 5:46addiction, the vententral tegmental
  153. 5:49area. The obsessive thinking, the
  154. 5:52physical ache, the craving, the
  155. 5:53compulsive checking behavior. These are
  156. 5:56not signs of how deep your love was.
  157. 5:58They are signs of withdrawal. You're not
  158. 6:01pining for a person. You're detoxing
  159. 6:04from a neurochemical. And here's where
  160. 6:06it gets even more interesting and more
  161. 6:08uncomfortable. The brain doesn't just
  162. 6:10romanticize by boosting the positive
  163. 6:12memories. It also uses a mechanism
  164. 6:15called deprivation amplification. Things
  165. 6:18we cannot have become more desirable not
  166. 6:22despite their unavailability but because
  167. 6:25of it. [clears throat]
  168. 6:26The psychological literature calls this
  169. 6:28reactance. When something is taken away,
  170. 6:31we instinctively want it more
  171. 6:34independent of how much we actually
  172. 6:36wanted it before. Think about that for a
  173. 6:39second. You might be partially in love
  174. 6:41with the unavailability itself. You
  175. 6:44might be confusing the ache of
  176. 6:46deprivation, the biological screaming of
  177. 6:49a reward system that's been cut off with
  178. 6:51evidence of exceptional, irreplaceable
  179. 6:54love. Not because you're foolish, but
  180. 6:57because you're human. There's a line I
  181. 6:59think about all the time from Victor
  182. 7:02Frankle. Between stimulus and response,
  183. 7:06there is space. In that space is our
  184. 7:09power to choose our response.
  185. 7:12Understanding what's happening in your
  186. 7:13brain right now is that space. It is the
  187. 7:16difference between being controlled by
  188. 7:19that neurological process and being able
  189. 7:21to look at it, name it, and make a
  190. 7:23different choice. So, let's look at the
  191. 7:25other thing your brain is doing. Let's
  192. 7:28look at the story. The story you're
  193. 7:31telling is fiction. There's a difference
  194. 7:34between your highlight reel and the full
  195. 7:36picture. There's a concept in cognitive
  196. 7:38behavioral therapy called selective
  197. 7:41abstraction. [snorts] The tendency to
  198. 7:43focus on one element of a situation
  199. 7:45while ignoring the broader context. To
  200. 7:47take a fragment and let it represent the
  201. 7:49whole. We do this all the time, right?
  202. 7:52You judge someone based on your first
  203. 7:53interaction. In plain language, you're
  204. 7:56watching the trailer for your
  205. 7:57relationship, not the film. The trailer.
  206. 8:01Trailers, as you know, are masterpieces
  207. 8:03of selective editing. Have you ever been
  208. 8:05to the theaters and you watch a trailer
  209. 8:07before the movie that you're going for
  210. 8:09and then you think, "I can't wait to
  211. 8:10watch that movie." Then you watch that
  212. 8:12movie and every joke was in the trailer.
  213. 8:14Every action moment was in the trailer.
  214. 8:16Every beautiful romantic moment was in
  215. 8:18the trailer and the movie was average.
  216. 8:19Every great line, every beautiful image,
  217. 8:21every moment of connection and
  218. 8:23tenderness and electricity cut together
  219. 8:25to make you want to see the movie. The
  220. 8:28trailer for a mediocre film can make it
  221. 8:30look like the most important cinematic
  222. 8:33experience of your lifetime. If you've
  223. 8:35just gone through a breakup, this is
  224. 8:37what your brain is doing. It has cut a
  225. 8:403minute trailer for a 2-year
  226. 8:42relationship and you have watched that
  227. 8:44trailer so many times that you've
  228. 8:46started to believe the trailer is the
  229. 8:49relationship. So, I want to do something
  230. 8:51with you that's going to be
  231. 8:52uncomfortable and I want you to do it
  232. 8:54honestly. I want you to watch the full
  233. 8:57film. Not to be cruel, not to demonize
  234. 9:00them or to erase what was real and good,
  235. 9:03but because you cannot make cleareyed
  236. 9:05decisions about your own recovery, about
  237. 9:08whether you should reach out, about
  238. 9:10whether this deserves to be mourned or
  239. 9:12released, about what you actually want.
  240. 9:15If you're working from a distorted
  241. 9:16source, think about the thing that ended
  242. 9:20it. Not the surface event, the argument,
  243. 9:22the moment, the conversation. The actual
  244. 9:25underlying pattern, the pattern that
  245. 9:28kept reasserting itself that you kept
  246. 9:31hoping would change that never quite
  247. 9:33did. What was it? Was it that they made
  248. 9:36you feel like an afterthought? That your
  249. 9:38needs were inconvenient? that they were
  250. 9:41emotionally unavailable in a way that
  251. 9:43made you work constantly for reassurance
  252. 9:45you should have just been given. That
  253. 9:47there was always something more
  254. 9:48important than you, the job, the
  255. 9:50friends, the general principle of their
  256. 9:52independence. Or was it something in
  257. 9:54you? A pattern of your own that this
  258. 9:57relationship was surfacing, an anxious
  259. 9:59attachment style that turned you into
  260. 10:01someone you didn't like, a habit of
  261. 10:03losing yourself in someone else until
  262. 10:05you couldn't find the edges of where you
  263. 10:07ended and they began. Whatever the pan
  264. 10:10was, it was real. It was consistent and
  265. 10:13it did not go away. And if you got back
  266. 10:15together tomorrow, it would still be
  267. 10:18there. Still consistent, still real with
  268. 10:20the added weight of everything that's
  269. 10:22happened since. One of my favorite
  270. 10:24Buddhist teachings is this. You cannot
  271. 10:28step in the same river twice. The river
  272. 10:31changes and you change as well. What
  273. 10:35you're trying to return to doesn't exist
  274. 10:37anymore. The relationship of the
  275. 10:39highlight reel is not a place you can go
  276. 10:42back to. It was barely even a place you
  277. 10:45were actually at. Psychologist John
  278. 10:47Gottman, who has spent 40 years studying
  279. 10:50couples, identified what he calls the
  280. 10:52four horsemen of relationship failure,
  281. 10:55contempt, criticism, defensiveness, and
  282. 10:59stonewalling. And his research found
  283. 11:02that by the time relationships end,
  284. 11:04these patterns have usually been present
  285. 11:06and consistent for an average of 6 years
  286. 11:09before the breakup. 6 years. Which means
  287. 11:12you probably have evidence, memories,
  288. 11:14feelings, moments that the relationships
  289. 11:17had these patterns for a long time. But
  290. 11:19those memories are now fuzzy, explained
  291. 11:22away, rewritten as misunderstandings or
  292. 11:24your fault or understandable given their
  293. 11:27circumstances. because your editing
  294. 11:29brain has decided the relationship was
  295. 11:32better than it was. I'm not saying it
  296. 11:34wasn't real. I'm not saying it didn't
  297. 11:35matter. I'm not saying there wasn't love
  298. 11:37or beauty or genuine connection. There
  299. 11:39probably was. And that's what makes it
  300. 11:41harder, not easier, because you're not
  301. 11:44mourning a lie. You're mourning
  302. 11:46something that had real value and real
  303. 11:47limitations simultaneously. And the
  304. 11:50human brain finds that complexity almost
  305. 11:53impossible to hold. Here's the questions
  306. 11:55I want you to ask yourself after a
  307. 11:58breakup. Who were you when you were in
  308. 12:00that relationship? Were you more
  309. 12:02yourself or less yourself? Were you
  310. 12:04growing toward who you want to be or
  311. 12:07were you just tolerating, accommodating,
  312. 12:09shrinking, or performing? Were you
  313. 12:11genuinely seen or were you constantly
  314. 12:14trying to be seen and often failing?
  315. 12:16Because your answer to that question
  316. 12:18tells you something far more important
  317. 12:20than whether they were wonderful. It
  318. 12:22tells you whether the relationship was
  319. 12:25actually good for you. Now, here's what
  320. 12:27you're actually grieving. And
  321. 12:29surprisingly, it's not them. It's
  322. 12:31something much older. This is the part
  323. 12:34of the episode where I need you to stay
  324. 12:35with me because this is the hardest part
  325. 12:37and also the most important. When
  326. 12:39someone comes to me or a trusted friend
  327. 12:41and says, "I can't stop thinking about
  328. 12:44my ex. I think I made a mistake. I think
  329. 12:46they were the one." There is almost
  330. 12:48always something underneath the grief
  331. 12:50about the specific person that doesn't
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  362. 13:57The psychologist and attachment
  363. 13:59researcher Sue Johnson has spent her
  364. 14:01career studying what happens in the
  365. 14:03nervous system when intimate connection
  366. 14:05is threatened or lost. And what she
  367. 14:08found is that adult romantic attachment
  368. 14:11doesn't operate in isolation. It
  369. 14:13operates on the top of the entire
  370. 14:15architecture of attachment you've been
  371. 14:17building since you were an infant. When
  372. 14:20your earliest caregivers were consistent
  373. 14:23and responsive, you developed what's
  374. 14:25called a secure attachment style. You
  375. 14:28learned at the level of the nervous
  376. 14:30system programming before language even
  377. 14:32existed that people are safe, that
  378. 14:35you're worthy of love, and that
  379. 14:36separation is temporary. That you can
  380. 14:39let people go and they will come back.
  381. 14:40Or if they don't, you will survive and
  382. 14:42find connection again. When your
  383. 14:44earliest caregivers were inconsistent or
  384. 14:46absent or overwhelming or emotionally
  385. 14:49unavailable, you developed a different
  386. 14:51program. You might have anxious
  387. 14:53attachment. The constant background hum
  388. 14:56that love is precarious. That you have
  389. 14:58to work to maintain it. That the other
  390. 15:00person's withdrawal is evidence that
  391. 15:02you've done something wrong. Or avoid an
  392. 15:05attachment. The learned belief that
  393. 15:07needing people is dangerous. That you're
  394. 15:09better off not needing. That closeness
  395. 15:11is a trap. Most people reading this,
  396. 15:14most people doing the 3:00 a.m. spiral
  397. 15:16are not just grieving a relationship.
  398. 15:18They are reexperiencing a very old
  399. 15:20wound. The grief about this person is a
  400. 15:24portal into a grief that has been
  401. 15:26sitting in the body for much longer. The
  402. 15:29anxious attached person isn't just
  403. 15:32missing their ex. They are
  404. 15:33reexperiencing every moment in childhood
  405. 15:36when love felt conditional. When
  406. 15:39approval could be earned and then
  407. 15:41suddenly withdrawn. When they tried
  408. 15:43their very hardest and it still wasn't
  409. 15:46enough. The avoidant person who is
  410. 15:48pretending to be fine and yet finds
  411. 15:50themselves inexplicably devastated isn't
  412. 15:54just managing a breakup. They are
  413. 15:56brushing against the thing they've spent
  414. 15:58their whole life running from. The
  415. 16:00terrifying evidence that they needed
  416. 16:02someone and then lost them. I'm not
  417. 16:05saying this to psychoanalyze you, but to
  418. 16:07offer something critical. Compassion for
  419. 16:10the scale of what you're actually
  420. 16:12carrying. Stop hating yourself for not
  421. 16:16getting over your ex. You're not weak
  422. 16:18because this is so hard. You're not
  423. 16:20pathetic because you can't stop thinking
  424. 16:22about them. You're a person who formed a
  425. 16:25deep attachment that is connected to
  426. 16:27something much larger and older and more
  427. 16:30foundational than this one relationship.
  428. 16:32And when that attachment is disrupted,
  429. 16:35the pain reaches all the way down into
  430. 16:37that original wound. As shocking as this
  431. 16:40sounds, this is actually good news
  432. 16:42because it means the healing you do
  433. 16:44right now, if you can do it properly, if
  434. 16:46you do it honestly, is not just about
  435. 16:49getting over this person. It is about
  436. 16:51attending to something that is needed
  437. 16:53attention for a very long time. This
  438. 16:56breakup, as terrible as it feels, is
  439. 16:59also an invitation. The Zen teacher
  440. 17:02Podran writes about something she calls
  441. 17:05groundlessness. the terrifying
  442. 17:07experience of having the floor fall away
  443. 17:10from under you, of being in freef fall
  444. 17:13with nothing solid to grab. And she
  445. 17:15argues counterintuitively,
  446. 17:17provocatively that groundlessness is not
  447. 17:20a problem to be solved. It is the most
  448. 17:23spiritual condition available to a human
  449. 17:26being. Because when the ground falls
  450. 17:28away, you discover whether you are
  451. 17:31standing on solid ground at all or
  452. 17:34whether you are standing on the illusion
  453. 17:37of someone else holding you up. The
  454. 17:39spiral of romanticizing your ex is at
  455. 17:42its core the desperate attempt to find
  456. 17:44the floor again, to go back to the thing
  457. 17:46that felt like solid ground. But the
  458. 17:49floor was never solid. It was a person,
  459. 17:51which means it was always going to move.
  460. 17:54Stop romanticizing your ex. You're not
  461. 17:57missing them. You're missing the version
  462. 18:00they showed you before you saw the full
  463. 18:02picture. You're not missing them. You're
  464. 18:05missing the future. You already planned
  465. 18:07in your head. You're not missing them.
  466. 18:09You're missing feeling chosen.
  467. 18:12You're not missing them. You're just not
  468. 18:15ready to let go of the story yet. But
  469. 18:17you will be. If you've gone through a
  470. 18:19breakup, the work, the real work, is not
  471. 18:24to find new ground to stand on. It's to
  472. 18:28find yourself standing without anything
  473. 18:32to lean on. in the groundlessness for
  474. 18:35long enough to realize you are always
  475. 18:36capable of standing alone. There's a
  476. 18:39Japanese concept called mono wear often
  477. 18:43translated as the pathos of things. The
  478. 18:46bitter sweetness of impermanence
  479. 18:49the particular beauty and sadness that
  480. 18:51comes from knowing that nothing lasts.
  481. 18:54The Japanese don't treat impermanence as
  482. 18:56a problem. They treat it as the very
  483. 18:59thing that gives experience its beauty.
  484. 19:02Cherry blossoms are the most revered
  485. 19:04symbol in Japanese culture. Not despite
  486. 19:06the fact that they fall in a weak
  487. 19:09because of it. What you had was real.
  488. 19:12What you had could have been beautiful
  489. 19:13in parts and it is gone. And all three
  490. 19:16of those things are true simultaneously.
  491. 19:19And sitting with that truth, all of it,
  492. 19:21without rewriting the ending, without
  493. 19:23fantasy editing it into something it
  494. 19:25wasn't, without bargaining with the past
  495. 19:27or that person is not resignation. It is
  496. 19:31not giving up. It is the most courageous
  497. 19:33thing you can do. The willingness to
  498. 19:35feel the full beauty of something that
  499. 19:37is over. Now, let me tell you how to
  500. 19:40actually do that. How to interrupt the
  501. 19:42spiral. How to work with your brain
  502. 19:44instead of being controlled by it.
  503. 19:46Because knowing the science doesn't make
  504. 19:48it stop hurting, but it does change what
  505. 19:51you do with the hurt. Let me be really
  506. 19:53honest with you about breakups. There is
  507. 19:56no version of getting over someone that
  508. 19:59doesn't involve feeling it. There's no
  509. 20:01cognitive hack that bypasses grief.
  510. 20:04There is no framework that makes this
  511. 20:06painless. There are two types of pain.
  512. 20:09The first is the pain that moves you,
  513. 20:12that transforms you, that carries you
  514. 20:14somewhere new. And then there's the pain
  515. 20:18that loops. The pain that keeps you
  516. 20:20exactly where you are, circling the same
  517. 20:23drain for months or years, pretending to
  518. 20:26be the depth of feeling when it's
  519. 20:28actually just a broken record. Here's
  520. 20:31how you get to the pain that moves you.
  521. 20:34Tool number one, the no contact rule.
  522. 20:38And I want to talk to you about why it's
  523. 20:39actually biology. You've heard about no
  524. 20:42contact, but you may not know the real
  525. 20:44reason it works. And the real reason is
  526. 20:46not about playing games or winning the
  527. 20:48breakup or making them miss you. The
  528. 20:50real reason is neurological. Every time
  529. 20:53you check their social media, you are
  530. 20:55feeding the addiction. You are
  531. 20:57reactivating the dopamine circuit.
  532. 20:59You're telling your neural pathways,
  533. 21:01"This is still relevant. Keep tracking
  534. 21:03it." Your brain cannot begin to
  535. 21:04withdraw, cannot begin to heal. While
  536. 21:07you keep administering micro doses of
  537. 21:09the drug, no contact is not punishment.
  538. 21:11No contact is detox. And it includes the
  539. 21:14things you're pretending don't count.
  540. 21:17The casual social media check that you
  541. 21:19tell yourself is harmless. The friendly
  542. 21:21text you're composing in your head. The
  543. 21:23driving past where they live. Every one
  544. 21:26of these is a hit. Every one of these
  545. 21:28restarts the clock on withdrawal. You're
  546. 21:31not cutting them off because you're
  547. 21:32cold. You're cutting off the supply
  548. 21:34because you're trying to heal. Those are
  549. 21:37completely different things. Stop
  550. 21:39checking their feed. They're not coming
  551. 21:42back because you watch their story.
  552. 21:44They're not coming back because you like
  553. 21:46something from 47 weeks ago at 2 a.m.
  554. 21:50They're not coming back because you
  555. 21:51figured out who that person in their
  556. 21:53photo is. They're not coming back
  557. 21:56because you've refreshed their profile
  558. 21:5811 times today. They're not coming back.
  559. 22:01But your piece is the second you stop
  560. 22:04looking. Tool number two, the full
  561. 22:07picture exercise. I want you to do
  562. 22:09something tonight if you're brave
  563. 22:11enough. Take a piece of paper, draw a
  564. 22:13line down the middle. On the left side,
  565. 22:15write down the things you genuinely
  566. 22:16miss. The real things, not the imagined
  567. 22:19perfect version, the actual things that
  568. 22:21were good and real and valuable. On the
  569. 22:23right side, write down the things you've
  570. 22:25been selectively forgetting. The pattern
  571. 22:27that kept repeating. The way you felt
  572. 22:29bad on days which are more frequent than
  573. 22:31your highlight reel admits. The specific
  574. 22:34moments where you felt unseen or
  575. 22:35dismissed or too much or not enough. The
  576. 22:38days you cried. Write down who you were
  577. 22:41on your worst days in that relationship.
  578. 22:43Write down the cost personally,
  579. 22:45professionally, to your family. This
  580. 22:47isn't bitterness. It's not a revenge.
  581. 22:49It's accuracy. You're correcting your
  582. 22:52memories editing. You're forcing your
  583. 22:54brain to hold the full picture rather
  584. 22:56than just a trailer. Tool number three,
  585. 22:59interrupt the spiral. Literally, the
  586. 23:02romanticizing spiral is a thought
  587. 23:04pattern. And thought patterns are
  588. 23:06neurological pathways, neural circuits
  589. 23:08that have been strengthened through
  590. 23:10repetition. Every time you indulge the
  591. 23:12spiral, you strengthen the pathway.
  592. 23:14Every time you interrupt it, you begin
  593. 23:16to weaken it. It's not suppression,
  594. 23:18forcing yourself to not think about
  595. 23:20something. Actually, this increases the
  596. 23:23frequency of the thought. It's the don't
  597. 23:25think about a pink elephant problem. The
  598. 23:28harder you try not to think about the
  599. 23:29pink elephant, you think about the pink
  600. 23:30elephant. What works instead is what
  601. 23:33neuroscientists call pattern
  602. 23:35interruption. A brief but genuine
  603. 23:38redirect of neural attention to
  604. 23:40something that requires full cognitive
  605. 23:42engagement. When the spiral starts, when
  606. 23:44you catch your hand moving toward their
  607. 23:46Instagram, when the imaginary
  608. 23:48conversation begins, when the maybe we
  609. 23:50gave up too soon story starts playing,
  610. 23:52you do something that requires your
  611. 23:54genuine attention. Immediately,
  612. 23:56something physical works best. A short
  613. 23:58vigorous walk, cold water on your face,
  614. 24:00five push-ups, something that activates
  615. 24:03your body and breaks the cognitive loop.
  616. 24:05Then, and this is key, you do not fight
  617. 24:07the feeling. You name it. I am
  618. 24:10experiencing a craving for this person.
  619. 24:13Just that the simple act of naming an
  620. 24:16emotion, what neuroscientists call
  621. 24:18affect labeling, activates the
  622. 24:20prefrontal cortex and measurably reduces
  623. 24:23activity in the amygdala. You move the
  624. 24:26feeling from the reactive part of your
  625. 24:28brain to the observing part. You become
  626. 24:31the person watching the spiral rather
  627. 24:33than the person inside it. Rule number
  628. 24:36four, rebuild identity, not find
  629. 24:40yourself. I know find yourself is tired
  630. 24:43advice. Bear with me because this is
  631. 24:45different, I promise. One of the most
  632. 24:47underappreciated effects of a
  633. 24:49significant relationship ending is what
  634. 24:51psychologists call self-concept
  635. 24:54contraction. In a long or deep
  636. 24:56relationship, your identity expands. You
  637. 24:58become someone who is part of a wei. You
  638. 25:01have shared friends, shared routine,
  639. 25:03shared references, shared futures. When
  640. 25:06the relationship ends, that whole
  641. 25:07dimension of identity collapses. You
  642. 25:10don't just lose the person, you lose the
  643. 25:12version of yourself that existed in
  644. 25:14relation to them. The antidote is not to
  645. 25:17immediately seek a new relationship to
  646. 25:19fill the gap, but to actively rebuild
  647. 25:21your own independent self-concept, to
  648. 25:25recover your own narrative. This means
  649. 25:28what did you stop doing when you were in
  650. 25:29that relationship? What did you let
  651. 25:32atrophy? What parts of yourself did you
  652. 25:34set aside to make room for the Wii?
  653. 25:37Friendships you let drift, interests you
  654. 25:39abandoned, ambitions you quietly
  655. 25:40shelved, the parts of you that existed
  656. 25:42before them and are still there waiting.
  657. 25:45Go find them. Not as therapy, not as
  658. 25:47distraction, as recovery of self. Every
  659. 25:51time you do something that is purely
  660. 25:52authentically yours, something that
  661. 25:55reflects who you are independent of any
  662. 25:57relationship, you are rebuilding the
  663. 26:00self-concept that the relationship and
  664. 26:02the breakup have eroded. You are
  665. 26:04answering the question, who am I without
  666. 26:07them? And discovering that the answer is
  667. 26:11more than you remembered. Please stop
  668. 26:14making excuses for them in your mind.
  669. 26:18Don't forget how small they made you
  670. 26:20feel. Don't forget they had every chance
  671. 26:23to choose you. Don't forget the excuses
  672. 26:26you made for them. Don't forget you
  673. 26:29cried because of this person more than
  674. 26:32once. Don't forget how many times they
  675. 26:34disappointed you and you stayed anyway.
  676. 26:38Please don't forget your worth. Please
  677. 26:41don't forget you deserve more than what
  678. 26:44they gave you. Please don't forget you
  679. 26:46always gave them the benefit of the
  680. 26:48doubt. Please don't forget you always
  681. 26:51saw the good in them and received the
  682. 26:54bad. Please don't forget you bent over
  683. 26:57backwards when they barely moved. Please
  684. 27:00don't forget someone who deserves you
  685. 27:04won't make you question if you're
  686. 27:06enough. Tool number five, let the grief
  687. 27:10be grief. Don't dress it up as love.
  688. 27:12This is the hardest one and the most
  689. 27:14important. Grief is grief. It needs to
  690. 27:17be felt, not managed, not optimized, not
  691. 27:20rushed through or bypassed or processed
  692. 27:23into insight before it's ready. Grief is
  693. 27:26a biological process, the nervous system
  694. 27:28integrating a loss. And it takes the
  695. 27:30time it takes. But there is a crucial
  696. 27:32difference between grief and
  697. 27:34romanticization.
  698. 27:35Grief moves. Comes in waves. Intense,
  699. 27:38then quiet, then intense again,
  700. 27:40gradually spacing out. It doesn't ask
  701. 27:43you to do anything except feel it. It
  702. 27:45doesn't require you to figure out
  703. 27:46whether they were the one or whether you
  704. 27:48made a mistake or whether you should
  705. 27:50text them. It just hurts and then hurts
  706. 27:53less and then hurts again. And
  707. 27:55eventually if you don't keep feeding it,
  708. 27:58it hurts differently. Not as a wound,
  709. 28:00but as a scar as evidence of something
  710. 28:02real that changed you that you remember.
  711. 28:05Romanticizing a relationship doesn't
  712. 28:08help you move forward. It loops. It
  713. 28:10keeps you in a story. It asks you to
  714. 28:13stay in the question what if, maybe,
  715. 28:15perhaps, if only because the story needs
  716. 28:18you to stay in it to stay alive. The
  717. 28:21story is not serving your grief. It's
  718. 28:24serving itself. So let yourself grieve.
  719. 28:27Actually grieve. Feel the loss. Feel the
  720. 28:30sadness. Feel the particular ache of
  721. 28:33missing someone who is genuinely
  722. 28:34important to you. That grief is true.
  723. 28:37That grief is healthy. that grief is the
  724. 28:39right response to loss. Just don't let
  725. 28:42the grief become a story that keeps you
  726. 28:44from moving through it. Feel it and then
  727. 28:48let it move. You've been telling
  728. 28:50yourself that you're holding on to them
  729. 28:51because of how much you love them. I
  730. 28:54want to offer you a different
  731. 28:54possibility. You've been holding on to
  732. 28:57the story of them because it's safer
  733. 28:59than the thing on the other side of
  734. 29:02letting go. On the other side of letting
  735. 29:04go is the open question of what comes
  736. 29:07next. The terrifying freedom of not
  737. 29:09being defined by this grief. The
  738. 29:11vulnerability of being available to
  739. 29:13yourself, to life, to whoever might come
  740. 29:16next without the protection of still
  741. 29:18being someone's ex. On the other side of
  742. 29:20letting go is the work of figuring out
  743. 29:22who you actually are. Not in relation to
  744. 29:24them, not in comparison to what you had,
  745. 29:27just you. standing in your own life,
  746. 29:30making choices from your own center,
  747. 29:32building something from where you
  748. 29:34actually are, rather than from where you
  749. 29:36wish you still were. But here's what I
  750. 29:39know. The love that is coming for you,
  751. 29:42the life that is waiting for you is not
  752. 29:45located in the past. It is not in the
  753. 29:48photos you keep looking back to or the
  754. 29:50songs you keep listening to or the
  755. 29:52imaginary conversations where they
  756. 29:54finally understand. It is in front of
  757. 29:56you in the version of yourself that has
  758. 29:59been through something real and survived
  759. 30:01it and learned things you couldn't have
  760. 30:03learned any other way. I really hope
  761. 30:06that this episode helps you. I hope
  762. 30:08you'll pass it on to a friend who may be
  763. 30:10going through this right now. Thank you
  764. 30:12for trusting me. Remember, I'm always in
  765. 30:14your corner and I'm forever rooting for
  766. 30:16you. If you love this episode, you're
  767. 30:19going to love my conversation with
  768. 30:21Matthew Hussie on how to get over your
  769. 30:23ex and find true love in your
  770. 30:25relationships. Make a list [music]
  771. 30:28of the things that are truly important
  772. 30:33>> for you to find in a partner and [music]
  773. 30:36then be that

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