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- 0:00What's up? It's Thrax. If you've been
- 0:02trading and you've been losing money or
- 0:05if you're switching strategies all the
- 0:07time looking for the new entry model,
- 0:10you're trying a different method, you're
- 0:12buying new courses, you're looking for
- 0:14the right person to copy their trades or
- 0:18you're trying to join a new Discord or
- 0:20whatever and nothing's working.
- 0:25I need you to hear this.
- 0:27It's not the strategy in most cases,
- 0:31it's you. You're the reason why it's not
- 0:34working.
- 0:36And that doesn't necessarily mean you
- 0:38can trade any [ __ ]
- 0:41and as long as you trade it correctly,
- 0:43it's going to work. No, you do need an
- 0:45edge, but my point is just that if
- 0:48somebody were to have a statistically
- 0:50proven edge and they teach you exactly
- 0:52how to do it, if you don't have the
- 0:55right foundation, chances are you're
- 0:57probably going to have much different
- 0:59results.
- 1:01And
- 1:02I know that's not what most of you
- 1:05probably want to hear, but it's the
- 1:07truth and it's the reason why most
- 1:09people who try and do this, even though
- 1:11there's so much information out on the
- 1:13internet that you can use to your
- 1:14advantage,
- 1:16that they still lose money and they
- 1:18still never make money. And I know it's
- 1:20the truth because I did it. I did it for
- 1:232 years. I lost money every day for 2
- 1:27years. I blew probably before I got a
- 1:29payout, I probably blew like 150 to 200
- 1:33accounts and they were like big-sized
- 1:35accounts, so I probably spent close to
- 1:38like $50,000,
- 1:41probably more than that, of cash.
- 1:44Of cash that I actually didn't even have
- 1:46that I put on a credit card. I had no
- 1:48idea how I was going to pay it off. And
- 1:50I did all of that while thinking
- 1:52that the problem was I needed to find
- 1:54the right setup. I needed to find the
- 1:56right strategy or that one indicator
- 1:59that I was just going to make everything
- 2:01work.
- 2:03It's not about that. It's not about the
- 2:06indicator or the strategy or whatever.
- 2:09Now, again, because there's going to be
- 2:11people watching this who go, "Oh, don't
- 2:14give me this [ __ ] about edge doesn't
- 2:17matter and it's just about psychology."
- 2:19No, I agree. Edge does matter, but even
- 2:22if you have an edge, if you can't
- 2:24execute it properly, then the edge
- 2:26doesn't mean jack [ __ ] So, the point of
- 2:29this video is just to explain
- 2:32you need to start with a proper
- 2:34foundation.
- 2:36And most people skip that. Most people
- 2:37just go immediate immediately to some
- 2:39type of pattern preference or some type
- 2:42of [ __ ] that they're trying to trade
- 2:44that they see on the internet where some
- 2:46guy goes, "This one setup changed my
- 2:48life." And this one indicator gives me a
- 2:5190% win rate. And then you got people
- 2:54who don't know anything else other than
- 2:55trading and they just like try and copy
- 2:58and paste what they see in a video
- 3:01and then they lose and they wonder why.
- 3:03They say, "Oh, that was a [ __ ]
- 3:05strategy. That [ __ ] doesn't work." I'm
- 3:07going to tell you in this video exactly
- 3:09why this happens and more importantly,
- 3:12I'm going to tell you what you actually
- 3:14need to fix before the strategy or it
- 3:17really any type of edge is actually
- 3:19going to work for you because most
- 3:20traders figure this out too late. And
- 3:23actually,
- 3:24some traders never figure it out at all
- 3:27and they just quit. They either quit or
- 3:29they keep doing the same thing
- 3:32over and over and over and then they're
- 3:34in the same spot for years. There's
- 3:36people in this industry who are
- 3:38literally waking up every morning to
- 3:40trade doing the exact same [ __ ] chasing
- 3:44strategies
- 3:45for years and they never get a payout.
- 3:48Some of them don't even don't even uh
- 3:51evaluations when you can literally do
- 3:53that just by luck. And so, here's what's
- 3:55happening to most traders right now.
- 3:57They find a strategy.
- 3:59They see it looks simple. It makes
- 4:01sense. It makes sense based off of the
- 4:03video from the guy that they just
- 4:05watched. So, then you go and you demo
- 4:07trade it, you paper trade it, you back
- 4:09test for a couple hours.
- 4:12It looks good. Looks simple. It's
- 4:14working. And then the moment you take it
- 4:16live, uh you start losing.
- 4:19It doesn't do the same as it was when
- 4:21you were doing demo and back testing.
- 4:23So, then you think, "Oh, I probably just
- 4:25need to tweak it." So, you go in, you
- 4:27tweak it, and then you lose again. So,
- 4:29now you start wondering to yourself,
- 4:32does this strategy even work?
- 4:35Is this strategy even real? Did it stop
- 4:37working? Did the market change? And then
- 4:40they go back to YouTube
- 4:42and then they find another video with
- 4:44some guy saying that he has a 90% win
- 4:47rate or this one setup changes life like
- 4:50I was mentioning earlier
- 4:52and it looks simple. Looks clean again.
- 4:56So, you try that one instead. You just
- 4:57keep going until you think you're going
- 4:59to find something that's that's going to
- 5:00work. And the problem is is that
- 5:04logically, this cycle makes sense.
- 5:08Logically, when you're inside of it, of
- 5:10course. You change strategies when the
- 5:12current one isn't working. That's
- 5:14rational, but it's based on a false
- 5:17assumption. The assumption is not that
- 5:20the strategy is the reason you're losing
- 5:22and almost every time for most people,
- 5:25it's not. I've watched traders trade the
- 5:28exact same system that I use and they
- 5:31still blow their accounts with it. I've
- 5:33watched traders take garbage setups,
- 5:35garbage trades, or trade strategies that
- 5:37are just totally wrong and has no
- 5:41statistical backing to it whatsoever
- 5:44or just don't even work and they make
- 5:45money with them. The strategy is not the
- 5:48variable that we need to change. You're
- 5:51the variable. You're the variable. So,
- 5:54think about what happens on a losing
- 5:56day, okay? You sit down, you got your
- 5:59setup. The market opens and you wait for
- 6:02your entry criteria and then maybe the
- 6:04move comes, maybe it doesn't. But here's
- 6:07usually what happens next is you're
- 6:10sitting there and you're starting to
- 6:12feel like you're missing something.
- 6:13You're starting to feel like the
- 6:15market's moving and you're not in it and
- 6:18maybe you saw setups that you didn't
- 6:19take or whatever. So, you take a
- 6:21slightly different trade. Not exactly
- 6:24the setup that was called for, but close
- 6:27enough. So, you rationalize it and then
- 6:29it loses. And then now you're down. So,
- 6:32suddenly your whole mindset shifts.
- 6:35You're not trading to execute your
- 6:36process anymore. You're trading to make
- 6:38the money back and then those are
- 6:40completely different activities. That is
- 6:43not a strategy problem. That is a you
- 6:46problem. The strategy didn't tell you to
- 6:48deviate from the process.
- 6:51The strategy didn't tell you to revenge
- 6:53trade. The strategy didn't do any of
- 6:55that.
- 6:56You did that and that's the thing that a
- 6:58lot of people don't want to admit. They
- 7:00want to blame it on the strategy or they
- 7:01want to blame it on the market or
- 7:03whatever, market conditions or shitty
- 7:05price action or whatever. When I look
- 7:07back at my own history,
- 7:11let's say no payouts, over 150 accounts
- 7:14blown, 50k in the hole, I can tell you
- 7:18with certainty that probably
- 7:22maybe 10 of those accounts were just bad
- 7:26luck, were just normal variance, trades
- 7:28that were executed correctly that just
- 7:30didn't work. The other 140 accounts,
- 7:34well, that was me. That was bad risk
- 7:36management. That was gambling. That was
- 7:38coming back in after hitting my daily
- 7:39loss limit. That was increasing size
- 7:42because I wanted to make back the losses
- 7:45faster or increasing size because I'm on
- 7:49a winning streak due to luck and
- 7:52variance and then
- 7:54um
- 7:55not accepting losses properly. I had the
- 7:57strategies the whole time. I had the
- 8:00setups the whole time. I just couldn't
- 8:02execute them because the foundation
- 8:05underneath the strategy was just
- 8:07completely broken. And that's the
- 8:09uncomfortable part of it. The chart is
- 8:11neutral. It doesn't care about your
- 8:14emotions.
- 8:16It really doesn't care about your
- 8:18mortgage or your rent or the bills that
- 8:20you have to pay
- 8:21or how badly you want this to work or
- 8:24how hard you're working to try and be a
- 8:26successful trader. The market really
- 8:28doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of that.
- 8:29It just moves. It just moves. So,
- 8:33then the thing is is like in most cases,
- 8:35if it's not the strategy, then what is
- 8:38it? Well,
- 8:39again,
- 8:41you do need an actual strategy that has
- 8:43an edge. You do need an actual edge. But
- 8:46the only way you can execute on that
- 8:48edge, again, is if you have the right
- 8:50foundation. So, in my own experience,
- 8:53both from trading on my own and watching
- 8:55other traders just trade and seeing the
- 8:58people around me who are also trying to
- 8:59be uh consistently profitable trader,
- 9:02it always comes down to three main
- 9:05things.
- 9:06Most traders don't actually have real
- 9:09risk management. They have the idea of
- 9:11risk management and they know they're
- 9:13supposed to they they know the rule
- 9:15where they hear it and they say, "Oh,
- 9:17you're only supposed to risk 1% of your
- 9:19account." And and they're know they know
- 9:21they're not supposed to overtrade or
- 9:23oversize.
- 9:25Um
- 9:26And they know they're not supposed to
- 9:27add losing positions and blah blah blah
- 9:29blah blah. Every
- 9:31We hear this all the time. Everyone
- 9:32knows this. But then the market opens
- 9:35and then all of that [ __ ] just [ __ ]
- 9:37flies out the window. Just flies out the
- 9:39window.
- 9:41It's like imagine if you're training to
- 9:43be a fighter, okay? And you're in the
- 9:46gym, you're punching the bag, you're
- 9:48doing the pad work, you're sparring with
- 9:50somebody, and you have a plan. You've
- 9:52been watching tape on the other guy. You
- 9:54know how why should be fighting this
- 9:56guy. You step into the ring on the day
- 9:58of the fight, you get punched in the
- 10:00face, and then all of that planning just
- 10:03[ __ ] flies out the window.
- 10:06Everybody has a plan. I know you guys
- 10:08have probably heard this. Everyone has a
- 10:09plan until they get punched in the face.
- 10:11And it's the same
- 10:14when it comes to trading.
- 10:16Real risk management isn't a rule that
- 10:19you follow when things are going well.
- 10:21Real risk management is what keeps you
- 10:24alive and keeps you in the game when
- 10:27things are not going well. And the
- 10:28entire point of it
- 10:30is not so that you make more money.
- 10:34It's so that you have an account to
- 10:36trade tomorrow. Because if you don't
- 10:39have an account, then
- 10:42what are we talking about? Strategy,
- 10:45setup, risk management, psychology. You
- 10:47don't have a [ __ ] account. None of it
- 10:50matters anymore. None of it matters.
- 10:52None of it. Not your edge, not your
- 10:54skills on the chart, not your setup.
- 10:58None of it. So, survivability isn't
- 11:01boring. It's actually the most
- 11:02aggressive long-term strategy that you
- 11:04have. So, your goal when you sit down to
- 11:07trade is not to make as much money as
- 11:09possible. Your goal is to lose as little
- 11:12money as possible, pretty much. That
- 11:14reframe alone changes everything about
- 11:17how you approach the market. Now again,
- 11:20I'm going to say this
- 11:22a few times
- 11:25because it's really important.
- 11:28You need an edge, though.
- 11:30You need an edge. I'm not going to sit
- 11:33here and like tell you that all
- 11:37strategies work and that it's all about
- 11:40psychology and do that whole guru
- 11:43[ __ ] But look, if you're going to
- 11:46like
- 11:47try and trade and you're trying to
- 11:49execute an edge that you've tested or
- 11:52whatever,
- 11:54the only way to execute that edge in
- 11:56live market environments is by executing
- 11:59it on a foundation that you've built.
- 12:01And so,
- 12:02there's things that we do
- 12:05that are variables that go against our
- 12:07edge. Like for example, one of them is
- 12:10tilt. Here's something that a lot of
- 12:11people get wrong about tilt. You can be
- 12:13perfectly calm, but you can be tilted at
- 12:17the same time. A lot of people like to
- 12:18think about tilt meaning that you're
- 12:21angry or
- 12:23you're getting sweaty or hot or you're
- 12:26trying to
- 12:27identify tilt through
- 12:30um emotions, I guess. But you can sit
- 12:33there, you can be totally fine, but you
- 12:36can still be in a mental state where you
- 12:38can't evaluate
- 12:40a setup correctly. You can't make
- 12:42calculated decisions. And so, people
- 12:45won't realize that they're tilting until
- 12:47they start
- 12:49feeling the feeling of tilt. And by that
- 12:51point, I mean it's like, "Fuck, dude,
- 12:52you already lost. You already lost."
- 12:54Probably at that point, your account's
- 12:56basically gone.
- 12:58And some people don't even realize
- 12:59they're tilting until the account is
- 13:00actually gone.
- 13:02So, how do you know that you tilted?
- 13:05Well, it's not necessarily based off of
- 13:07emotions, it's based off of behavior.
- 13:09You got to watch your behavior. It's not
- 13:11your feelings. Like, did you just take a
- 13:13trade that didn't fully meet your
- 13:15criteria? Did you just increase your
- 13:17size because you lost three in a row and
- 13:19you're trying to make it back quicker?
- 13:21Did you just hold past your stop because
- 13:23you think it's some type of liquidity
- 13:25grab and that it's going to come back?
- 13:27Those are all tilt behaviors and you can
- 13:29be totally calm while you do all of
- 13:31that. And they're almost always
- 13:33invisible to the person that is doing
- 13:36it. And I've blown more accounts
- 13:39from tilt
- 13:41than anything else. Before I started
- 13:42trading, I used to just gamble all the
- 13:44time. I'd go to the casino
- 13:46probably every weekend, knew I was going
- 13:49to lose money, I found it fun.
- 13:51I just loved to gamble. And then I
- 13:53started trading
- 13:55and then I traded the same way and then
- 13:57it just
- 13:59I tilted constantly every day, blow like
- 14:01two, three accounts every day. I'd hit
- 14:04my daily loss limit. I'd tell myself I
- 14:07was just going to take one more trade,
- 14:10see if I can make it just a little bit
- 14:11less of a loss, and that turned into
- 14:13another trade and another trade and
- 14:15another trade. And then next thing I
- 14:16know, my account's gone. Whip out the
- 14:18credit card, go get another account, do
- 14:20the same exact [ __ ] over again. And I
- 14:22thought I was being
- 14:24disciplined by like sitting there and
- 14:27watching the charts and making sure I
- 14:29wasn't missing any opportunities and not
- 14:31getting distracted, but I was actually
- 14:33doing the opposite. The fix isn't
- 14:35necessarily having willpower. The fix is
- 14:39having hard rules set in place that
- 14:42stops the day before tilt
- 14:45ever sets, before tilt ever gives you
- 14:48the opportunity to even act on it. When
- 14:50you hit your daily loss limit, you close
- 14:52the platform. Not after one more trade,
- 14:55not after you sit there for another 20
- 14:57minutes and see if a better opportunity
- 15:00pops up, not after you check the chart
- 15:02one more time.
- 15:04You close it. You just close it. And so,
- 15:07there are things that people who are
- 15:09trading, who are struggling trading,
- 15:12don't realize is even happening. And the
- 15:15way that most traders approach this is
- 15:17you see somebody online, he makes a lot
- 15:19of money, you go, "Oh, that looked easy.
- 15:22I want to learn how to trade." You click
- 15:23on the guy's profile. Oh, in this guy's
- 15:25profile, he's got this one strategy or
- 15:27this one setup that changes his life.
- 15:30That he has this 90% win rate Whatever
- 15:33the [ __ ] it says, I don't know.
- 15:35People say the same [ __ ] but the point
- 15:37is it's just like you try and learn it
- 15:40and you try and make it work. And that's
- 15:41the first thing you do, you just try and
- 15:43make the strategy work. Then you
- 15:45realize, "Oh, I need risk management."
- 15:48And then so, you start reading about
- 15:50psychology. You hear traders say you
- 15:51need to read Trading in the Zone and
- 15:53Best Loser Wins and all these different
- 15:56things. So, then you start focusing on
- 15:57that. And then eventually, after losing
- 16:00a lot of money, you start to understand
- 16:02that you should have started with the
- 16:04foundation.
- 16:06Should have started with the foundation.
- 16:09Not the strategy.
- 16:10Strategy's not the foundation. The
- 16:12strategy is something you build on top
- 16:13of the foundation. But people do it
- 16:15backwards. And doing it backwards is
- 16:18going to cause you
- 16:20to lose
- 16:21thousands of dollars. Think about it
- 16:24like building a house, okay?
- 16:27If you know anything about building a
- 16:28house, you have to lay a foundation
- 16:31before you put up the walls. You don't
- 16:34put up the walls before you pour the
- 16:36foundation. You don't put the roof on
- 16:38before you build the walls. And it
- 16:40happens in a specific order because each
- 16:43layer depends on the one below it.
- 16:46You don't put up the walls on a [ __ ]
- 16:50foundation and then start to blame the
- 16:52walls for not staying upright. That's
- 16:55not [laughter] how it works.
- 16:56And trading is identical to that.
- 16:58Foundation first.
- 17:00How does the market actually work? What
- 17:02am I trading? Like, what is this? How to
- 17:05manage risk? How to take losses
- 17:07correctly? Then the strategy. Then
- 17:10bankroll management and scaling. It's in
- 17:12that order, always.
- 17:14Always. The typical order is like people
- 17:17will come in, learn a strategy, try and
- 17:19scale it, then try and learn learn
- 17:22risk management and psychology,
- 17:25and then try and figure out what the
- 17:26market's actually doing.
- 17:28You're doing it backwards. If you jump
- 17:30to the strategy before you build a
- 17:32foundation, you are going to blow up.
- 17:35You are going to lose.
- 17:37You may get lucky, you may have some
- 17:38variance, you may have like a good month
- 17:40or whatever, but over time, you're going
- 17:42to lose. And then you're going to blame
- 17:44the strategy. You're going to say, "Oh,
- 17:46well, that strategy doesn't work." And
- 17:48you're going to go to another strategy.
- 17:49And then it's going to happen again
- 17:52because the foundation was never there
- 17:54to begin with. So, what do we actually
- 17:56need to do?
- 17:58Well, we need to start with the right
- 17:59goal.
- 18:00So, the first shift is the hardest one
- 18:04because it feels counterintuitive. Stop
- 18:07trying to make money.
- 18:10You need to start trying to stay in the
- 18:12game.
- 18:14I know how that sounds.
- 18:15You're trading because you want to make
- 18:17money. We're all trading because we want
- 18:19to make money. I know, I get it.
- 18:22But here's the thing. For me, when I
- 18:23stopped focusing on trying to make money
- 18:27and started focusing purely on
- 18:29surviving, on not blowing accounts, not
- 18:32blowing two, three, four accounts every
- 18:34single day, not whipping out my credit
- 18:37card to then re-up on more accounts just
- 18:40to do the same [ __ ] again, that's when
- 18:42the money actually started coming. It's
- 18:44a paradox, right? You heard it. Chase
- 18:47the money, it runs. Stop chasing, it
- 18:50follows. So, practically, what does this
- 18:53look like? Well,
- 18:55every morning before you sit down,
- 18:58your only question your only question
- 19:00really is, "What's the most I'm willing
- 19:03to lose today?" And when you hit that
- 19:05number, and it has to be a real number.
- 19:07See, here here's the issue. People
- 19:09will be like, "I'm going to
- 19:12uh stop trading after I lose $500." But
- 19:15they were never really willing to risk
- 19:18$500 in the first place. And so, when
- 19:20you do hit that $500,
- 19:23it's uncomfortable.
- 19:25And you want to fix that uncomfort.
- 19:28So, you're going to try and fix it, and
- 19:30that means you're going to try and
- 19:31continue to trade. So, when you set a
- 19:34daily loss limit, you need to be
- 19:37honest about it. You People set loss
- 19:40limits without really thinking about
- 19:43what it's going to be like when they
- 19:45actually hit that loss limit.
- 19:47So, it's really important that you
- 19:49choose
- 19:50the right number for you. I can't tell
- 19:53you what it is.
- 19:55Somebody can be totally comfortable with
- 19:56losing a thousand dollars on the day.
- 19:58Somebody might not be comfortable losing
- 20:01a few hundred dollars on the day.
- 20:03Now, if you're not willing to lose any
- 20:05money on the day, well, then guess what?
- 20:06You should probably go do something else
- 20:08cuz you're going to There's going to be
- 20:09days where we lose. We're not thinking
- 20:11about, "Oh, I'm sitting down at my
- 20:12computer. How much money am I going to
- 20:14try and make today? What's my profit
- 20:16target today?" It's What is the maximum
- 20:19amount of damage that I can live with
- 20:22before I shut it down?
- 20:24Before I stop. So, that's the lens.
- 20:26That's the foundation of every good
- 20:29trading day. The traders that I have met
- 20:33in this space that I actually respect,
- 20:36the ones who are who are actually
- 20:38consistently profitable,
- 20:40they all have one thing in common. They
- 20:43care way more about how they traded than
- 20:47how much money they made. A losing trade
- 20:49that was executed correctly, like right
- 20:52entry criteria, proper sizing, properly
- 20:55placed stop, taken off at a structural
- 20:58invalidation area, that's a good trade.
- 21:01You did your job. The market just didn't
- 21:03cooperate at that time. A winning trade
- 21:06that came from a revenge trade where you
- 21:09already broke all your rules and you're
- 21:11just trading
- 21:12out of desperation to make your money
- 21:14back, that's a bad trade. It doesn't
- 21:16matter if it wins or loses. That is a
- 21:18bad trade. Even if it made money. It's a
- 21:21bad trade even if it made money. Because
- 21:23you didn't trust your process. You
- 21:24gambled. You got lucky.
- 21:27And that's not going to consistently
- 21:29happen over a long period of time. It's
- 21:32a ticking time bomb.
- 21:34If you do that, that is a ticking time
- 21:36bomb. You're going to blow all of your
- 21:38accounts if you continuously do that.
- 21:41The process has to be defined before you
- 21:43ever touch a live account. Before you
- 21:45ever get into a funded account, not
- 21:48after. And definitely not while you're
- 21:50figuring it out. Before. Has to be
- 21:52before. So, if you're serious
- 21:55and you're struggling
- 21:58with trading,
- 21:59if you're serious about trying to be
- 22:01profitable and trying to actually change
- 22:04the results or the outcomes of your
- 22:06effort, here is the sequence. And I need
- 22:09you to trust this order because every
- 22:11step depends on the one before it. The
- 22:13first step
- 22:15in the proper foundation for learning
- 22:17how to trade is understanding how the
- 22:19market actually moves. Not pattern
- 22:22recognition. Not when this candle
- 22:24pattern appears, you you buy or when
- 22:27this uh indicator prints a buy signal,
- 22:30you buy it and this is where you place
- 22:32your stop and your TP. No. Understanding
- 22:34why price is actually moving. What is
- 22:37driving it?
- 22:39Why is it bouncing back and forth? Why
- 22:41is it running in a singular direction?
- 22:44And who's on the side Who's on the other
- 22:46side of the trade that you're you're
- 22:48taking? Because without this, you're
- 22:51essentially just guessing. The second
- 22:53step is risk management. And that
- 22:55includes like how to actually take a
- 22:57loss. Because they're going to happen.
- 23:00How to take a loss. How to size into
- 23:03positions. How to define before the
- 23:06entry what it is that you're actually
- 23:08doing. And where it is where you're
- 23:12wrong.
- 23:13This is the foundation for everything.
- 23:16And if you skip this, the other steps
- 23:18are just going to fall apart. Step three
- 23:21is the strategy and the entries.
- 23:23Actually learning and validating
- 23:26validating
- 23:28what your edge is and how to execute on
- 23:30it.
- 23:31Again, perfect psychology with a
- 23:33[ __ ] edge is not going to work. It's
- 23:35just not going to work over a long
- 23:37period of time. It won't have You won't
- 23:39be successful unless you have an edge.
- 23:42There's no going around it. Anyone who
- 23:44sits here and makes these types of
- 23:45videos and tries to talk about
- 23:47psychology, at the end of the day, it is
- 23:50the strategy, too. It is. You do need to
- 23:52have an edge.
- 23:54But the thing is is is just that this is
- 23:56where most traders start and it's the
- 23:58wrong starting point. It's just the
- 24:00wrong way to start. It should be after
- 24:03the first two steps. And then the fourth
- 24:06step, if you're trading prop firms, is
- 24:08bankroll management, but specifically
- 24:10with prop firms. How to use payouts to
- 24:13fund evaluations, how to scale properly
- 24:16without ever going into the red, and how
- 24:18to build multiple income streams from
- 24:21multiple funded accounts. That's the
- 24:23order. Foundation, risk, edge, and then
- 24:27scaling. Most people try and do like
- 24:30edge first, scale second, risk third,
- 24:34and then fourth is the foundation. And
- 24:37they wonder why
- 24:39nothing works.
- 24:40And the last thing that I want to talk
- 24:42about in this video before we wrap it up
- 24:44is just the timeline.
- 24:46People get into trading because they it
- 24:48looks like it's so easy. It looks like
- 24:50it's so easy, right? People get into
- 24:53trading and they expect to be profitable
- 24:55in like three months. And when they're
- 24:57not, they feel like they're failing.
- 24:59They see everything online. Everyone's
- 25:01always winning, right? That's the only
- 25:03thing we see online. Everyone's always
- 25:05winning. Why am I the only one that's
- 25:06losing?
- 25:07And then they say, "Trading is a scam.
- 25:11All these videos of these guys who are
- 25:12telling me strategies,
- 25:14they say it works for them. I tried it.
- 25:16It doesn't work for me. I'm losing every
- 25:18day. Trading this guy's same strategy
- 25:20and he's winning every day. This [ __ ] is
- 25:22a scam." Well, take some time to be good
- 25:25at trading. It takes some time.
- 25:28You know, they say like you hear the
- 25:30thing where they say it takes two to
- 25:32three years to be profitable in trading.
- 25:34And for some people it might be faster
- 25:36and for others it might be longer.
- 25:38And it all has to do with the behaviors
- 25:42and the person that is actually
- 25:45attempting to trade because everybody's
- 25:47different.
- 25:48There's going to be people who have
- 25:51behaviors and tendencies that they do in
- 25:53their normal day-to-day life that's
- 25:55going to translate well to trading. And
- 25:57then there's other people, like myself,
- 25:59who like to gamble where that's a
- 26:01terrible thing to bring into trading,
- 26:03but you're going to bring it in because
- 26:04those are behaviors and and patterns
- 26:06that you typically do outside of
- 26:08trading.
- 26:09So, depending on the person, it can take
- 26:11a long time or
- 26:13it can just start working for you
- 26:15because, again, everybody's different.
- 26:18But they say two to three years to be
- 26:21profitable. Now, do I believe that? Uh I
- 26:23don't really know. Did it take me two
- 26:25years basically to become profitable?
- 26:27Yeah. So, I guess I support that
- 26:29statistic. So, that's that's one thing
- 26:32to consider. But that's just the reality
- 26:35of it. We'll just say two to three
- 26:36years. That means two to three years of
- 26:39losing money, of learning, adjusting,
- 26:41tweaking, and building the mental
- 26:44infrastructure to be able to
- 26:46successfully trade profitably,
- 26:49consistently, long-term. And I'm not
- 26:52saying that necessarily to discourage
- 26:55you. I'm saying that because it's
- 26:57important to understand the timeline of
- 26:59this learning curve or this process
- 27:02going into it. I'm sure a lot of people
- 27:04who are watching this video are I mean,
- 27:07I would assume, are probably in their
- 27:09first or second year of trading and
- 27:10they're or even their first couple
- 27:12months of trading and they're not
- 27:13finding success. If you understand the
- 27:16timeline,
- 27:17you're going to make decisions that are
- 27:19going to keep you in the game long
- 27:21enough to get there instead of blowing
- 27:23everything, trying to shortcut it, and
- 27:26then just saying, "This [ __ ] doesn't
- 27:28[ __ ] work." And then quitting. The
- 27:30people that lose everything, why? They
- 27:33try and shortcut the timeline. It takes
- 27:35time to learn how to trade properly.
- 27:38We're dealing with money. We're dealing
- 27:40with emotions. We're We're This is not
- 27:42easy. People size up too fast. They
- 27:44over-leverage. They can't accept the
- 27:46fact that they're wrong. They don't like
- 27:47being wrong. They skip the foundation.
- 27:51And the people who make it, well,
- 27:53they understand that this is a long-term
- 27:55game. That this is a long game. And they
- 27:58decide that they actually want to play
- 27:59the long game. If you have the right
- 28:01process and you actually follow it, I
- 28:03genuinely think you can cut that two to
- 28:05three years down significantly. And
- 28:07that's not because trading gets easier,
- 28:10but it's because you stop wasting time
- 28:12on the things that don't actually
- 28:14matter. So, here's where we are. You've
- 28:16been probably blaming the strategy,
- 28:19watching new YouTube videos, jumping to
- 28:21different strategies, blaming that one,
- 28:24then thinking maybe uh it's my
- 28:26psychology, start reading a book about
- 28:28psychology,
- 28:30start journaling how you feel when you
- 28:32take a trade.
- 28:33That's your version of journaling,
- 28:35writing down your feelings. And yeah,
- 28:37that strategy might actually have
- 28:40problems. Sure. Just like how we
- 28:42mentioned earlier in the uh in the in
- 28:45the beginning of the video.
- 28:47But usually, for most people, the
- 28:49strategy was never actually the problem.
- 28:52And it's never what's actually killing
- 28:54your account over and over and over and
- 28:56over. What's killing your account is
- 28:58trying to execute an edge on top of a
- 29:00foundation that was never built. That's
- 29:02the whole thing. That's the whole point
- 29:04of this video. I'm not telling you
- 29:07I'm not telling you that oh, edge
- 29:09doesn't matter or you could trade
- 29:11whatever you want and a strategy about
- 29:13the moon and the stars aligning will
- 29:15tell you what the markets are going to
- 29:16do. No, I'm not saying that. You need an
- 29:19actual edge. You need an actual
- 29:21strategy. Yes. Needs to exist.
- 29:24But if you have it and you don't have
- 29:26the foundation, you're never going to be
- 29:28able to execute it. And that doesn't
- 29:30mean learning psychology. There's a
- 29:32process. There is a system to this. It's
- 29:34not just, "Let me go read a book about
- 29:36psychology and uh
- 29:39uh let me write down my feelings after
- 29:41every trade." It
- 29:43It's It's all [ __ ] waste of time.
- 29:45It's all wasted time. That [ __ ] is If
- 29:47you're going to journal, first of all,
- 29:49we can make another video on that.
- 29:50That's not how you should be journaling.
- 29:52You shouldn't be writing down your
- 29:53feelings. That's
- 29:55a waste of time.
- 29:57That's like the That's like one of the
- 29:58things in journaling that matters
- 30:01probably the least, but we'll get to
- 30:03that in a different video. So,
- 30:05foundation first.
- 30:07Risk is second.
- 30:09Edge is third.
- 30:11And scaling is fourth. In that order.
- 30:15Do not mix it around.
- 30:17Don't do it. If you've been trading and
- 30:19you feel like you're stuck or you're not
- 30:21making any progress or you're doing the
- 30:22same [ __ ] over and over and over again
- 30:24and you don't realize why or you can't
- 30:26figure it out, I want you to honestly
- 30:29ask yourself, did I actually build the
- 30:31foundation or just straight up jump into
- 30:34trading trying to find an edge and
- 30:36figure out the rest along the way?
- 30:39Be honest because
- 30:41that answer
- 30:43is going to tell you exactly where you
- 30:45need to start. So, now that you
- 30:46understand why you're actually losing
- 30:48and what's causing you to probably lose
- 30:51and not be able to execute an edge even
- 30:52if it does exist, the next thing you
- 30:55need to do is to understand how the
- 30:57market actually moves at a structural
- 31:00level because without that, even with
- 31:03perfect risk management, if you don't
- 31:05know what's going on
- 31:07or what it is that we're trading and why
- 31:09it's doing the things that it's doing,
- 31:11you're still going to be taking entries
- 31:14and not knowing why. And there's a
- 31:16framework that I use to read every trade
- 31:19that I take, every single trade, and
- 31:21it's rooted in how markets actually move
- 31:24and how they actually work as a live
- 31:27auction. And if you understand that
- 31:31and you read it, the way you see the
- 31:33charts can completely change. So, I'll
- 31:35include it in the description. And
- 31:37again, the last thing I'm going to say
- 31:38is none of this None of this matters
- 31:40also, by the way,
- 31:42if you don't have any self-control and
- 31:44you don't have any discipline and you
- 31:46don't have an edge.
- 31:48But, the last thing I'm going to mention
- 31:50about that
- 31:51is that
- 31:53if you build a proper foundation
- 31:56and you're actually exercising on
- 31:58building on top of that
- 32:00foundation that was properly built,
- 32:03it'll be easier to understand when you
- 32:06need to adjust your trading strategy.
- 32:08Otherwise, you're going to be adjusting
- 32:10a trading strategy and how you execute
- 32:13on it and you're ignoring what's
- 32:15actually the problem. And that is the
- 32:16entire point of this video. So, that's
- 32:19it. I'll catch you guys next time.
- 32:21Peace.
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