If You're Hiring in 2026, Watch This First — Transcript
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- 0:00AI probably occupies half of my time
- 0:02right now
- 0:03in terms of like what I'm thinking about
- 0:05within the business.
- 0:11And so
- 0:18Okay.
- 0:20Okay, so from a beliefs perspective,
- 0:22right? Like one of the big shifts that
- 0:23everybody here has to make is shifting
- 0:25away from thinking about roles based
- 0:27growth and expansion
- 0:29towards workflow based automation.
- 0:31So
- 0:33Imagine that you're you're like I want
- 0:35to hire
- 0:37I want to hire an editor. All right, I'm
- 0:38just making this up. I want to hire an
- 0:40editor.
- 0:41This is how we used to think about
- 0:43things. I need to hire an editor so they
- 0:44can do XYZ.
- 0:46The way that we all have to think about
- 0:48our businesses now is that this editor
- 0:50really was going to do
- 0:53these four five things, right? And each
- 0:55of these things should exist
- 0:59in a workflow. Like the reason that like
- 1:01and this is the editor does this one and
- 1:03they're doing this one
- 1:05in this workflow and maybe they're doing
- 1:06these three in this workflow. And so
- 1:09basically you have to go more granular
- 1:12to the level of like because every
- 1:13single business if you really think
- 1:15about it can be connected at the most
- 1:16intricate level of like this action to
- 1:18this action to this action to this
- 1:19action all the way through. Now there
- 1:21might be 120 actions that go from
- 1:23inbound lead to dirt, you know, turf,
- 1:26whatever, right? And it's getting great
- 1:29and this is the thinking that most
- 1:30people won't do which is why they will
- 1:31lose and why I think a lot of people are
- 1:32going to get [ __ ] But if you have a
- 1:33little bit more horsepower and have a
- 1:34little bit more time to think about
- 1:36things, that's where instead of saying I
- 1:38need to hire an editor, you say I need
- 1:40an agent who just does this and I need
- 1:42an agent that just does this and an
- 1:44agent that just does this. And so it's
- 1:47switching from
- 1:49again roles to workflows.
- 1:52And everything just has to be organized
- 1:53in workflows. And so it's like a very
- 1:55fun project is thinking like can you
- 1:57actually draw your entire business in
- 1:59one linear workflow cuz it does happen
- 2:01and if you can't draw it how the [ __ ] do
- 2:03you have a business, right? But it
- 2:05really starts with like
- 2:09like the business for us for example
- 2:10starts with an idea. It sounds silly but
- 2:12like it starts with an idea. So how does
- 2:14an idea come to happen?
- 2:16Well, the what is the workflow around an
- 2:18idea? For us it would be like okay, um I
- 2:21check our school community and I look at
- 2:24what's happening. Okay, that is a
- 2:26workflow which is
- 2:28uh search you know search this database
- 2:32which is school but it could be you know
- 2:33trends.com or you know one of 10.com
- 2:36whatever
- 2:37um where you look at what things are
- 2:39outperforming in this particular market.
- 2:41And then it says okay, then it gives you
- 2:43this list
- 2:44of the out-performers and then there's
- 2:46going to be a match between this list
- 2:48and our competency. So it's like I have
- 2:51a list of things that I like talking
- 2:52about. These are the list of things that
- 2:54people want to hear about. This is the
- 2:55intersection between those things.
- 2:57Great.
- 2:59What does this look like in terms of
- 3:01uh
- 3:01uh scripting, right? So it's like okay,
- 3:03we're going to have some sort of
- 3:04scripting around this.
- 3:05So I want uh templated ideas. AI does
- 3:08this. So it gives us
- 3:09um okay, this is a seven-step whatever
- 3:12and it has each of the steps underneath
- 3:14of it and we like great. Now that the
- 3:15scripting's done
- 3:17we're going to go into
- 3:18packaging.
- 3:20All right, what are going to be the
- 3:20headlines, what are going to be the
- 3:21thumbnails?
- 3:24This is an AI workflow.
- 3:25And then we're going to get into
- 3:26production, right? And so all of this is
- 3:29broken down just so that we can get one
- 3:30thing to happen which is a click.
- 3:32Right? But every single element of the
- 3:34business can be broken down into the
- 3:36into its constituent workflows. And so I
- 3:38think the mistake that a lot of people
- 3:39are making right now with AI is being
- 3:40like well AI can't do what a human can
- 3:42do which is obviously [ __ ] but like
- 3:46you have to train it the way you train a
- 3:47human.
- 3:48So saying like well I'm I'm to bring
- 3:50this this human in and tell them nothing
- 3:52and expect them to do a good job is
- 3:53ridiculous, but we're somehow else we
- 3:55like believe that a machine should be
- 3:56able to do that. But instead of
- 3:57thinking, "Okay, this editor or
- 4:00videographer or whatever it is,
- 4:02um actually does 16 actual activities,
- 4:07and each of those activities we have to
- 4:09take one at a time, and we can have an
- 4:10agent that's trained on that thing."
- 4:13And so like right now, I Nomadic is
- 4:14working super hard with Julian on this,
- 4:16but like
- 4:17we have so I do like my Hormozi
- 4:18Hotlines. And so I do a hotline, and
- 4:21then that then goes into, um
- 4:24basically an AI thing that does, uh that
- 4:26breaks down the the the transcripts.
- 4:28That's like step one. From the
- 4:29transcript, it then says, "Okay, notice
- 4:31when there's different speakers." All
- 4:33right? So it has to do that two times.
- 4:35One is notice when
- 4:36it's Alex versus the other person, so
- 4:38it's ABAB. Imagine I'm A, but then it
- 4:41eventually switches to ACACAC, and then
- 4:43it goes to ADADAD, because there's new
- 4:47person that I'm on the phone with. So
- 4:48it's going to say segment first between
- 4:51when it goes from AB to AC. So great,
- 4:53now we have 10 underneath clips. From
- 4:55there, uh it'll run a separate script
- 4:57that's like look cuz it's like what
- 4:59would an editor do? The first thing
- 5:00you're going to do is clip out the
- 5:01individual portions. Okay, there's 10
- 5:02different conversations Alex had. Okay.
- 5:04Now that we have these 10 conversations,
- 5:06look through this and try to find the
- 5:07highest tension moment. And so it'll
- 5:09read the words and say, "This is the
- 5:10highest tension moment." And be great,
- 5:12start the clip with the highest tension
- 5:14moment, and then get into the rest of
- 5:16the clip. What else do we want? Remove
- 5:17all ums and ahs. Great. Now from there,
- 5:21what are the um what data is required in
- 5:24order to have the insight that Alex
- 5:25delivers? Only these four points. Great,
- 5:27collapse the rest. Now export final file
- 5:30of that.
- 5:32That's the workflow. And so it's really
- 5:34just building this on a consistent basis
- 5:36and continuing to update that prompt,
- 5:37which is literally just like updating
- 5:38the training for a human being of like
- 5:40actually do this too, just like you
- 5:41would with an editor, but doing that
- 5:43across every function of the business.
- 5:46So that is like that is the future. And
- 5:48the nice thing is that with
- 5:50there's a lot of businesses that
- 5:52like agencies, for example, have been a
- 5:54notoriously shitty business
- 5:56to run.
- 5:57Um
- 5:59but in the future, I think they'll be
- 6:01incredibly lucrative businesses for the
- 6:03people who are really good with AI
- 6:04because
- 6:06the demand for more customers is
- 6:07infinite.
- 6:09And so there's like no one's like, "Hey,
- 6:10what's product market fit for an
- 6:11agency?" You don't have to ask. People
- 6:13want customers. It's not hard to like
- 6:15don't need to ask for product market
- 6:16fit. The issue is that
- 6:18the ops around being good at getting
- 6:20customers is significantly harder. But
- 6:22if you can operationalize each of the
- 6:23flows, it becomes much better. And this
- 6:25is why like
- 6:27like I'm built for this movement because
- 6:29it's all about being black and white
- 6:31with observable behavior. And that's
- 6:32like what I geek out on. And so this is
- 6:35where vague language, like machines do
- 6:37not understand like vague language.
- 6:38Also, neither do you [ __ ] humans.
- 6:41Um we just nod our heads because we've
- 6:42been reinforced for doing so. But this
- 6:43is where being very specific like, "Hey,
- 6:45I need you to be more charismatic."
- 6:46means nothing. We have to say, "I need
- 6:48you to raise your voice in this way. I
- 6:49need you to talk faster. I need you to
- 6:51raise your head when you're speaking. I
- 6:52need you to nod when the other person's
- 6:53talking." We have to break it down to
- 6:54what someone would do. And so, um as
- 6:57though you were teaching a toddler, you
- 6:58have to work the same way with the
- 6:59machine, but the machine never forgets.
- 7:02Hopefully that answered the question.
- 7:04>> It does.
- 7:04>> Okay.
- 7:06But yeah, this is what I'm thinking a
- 7:07lot about.
- 7:10>> So, it starts with a clear process map
- 7:12or workflow map of the every action of
- 7:14the business.
- 7:14>> Exactly. And I would I would start like
- 7:16start start with the big ideas first.
- 7:19So, it's like, "Okay, I do I I I have an
- 7:21idea."
- 7:22And then I make a script, and then I uh
- 7:25I shoot it, and then I, you know, then
- 7:26we we export the clip, and then we edit
- 7:29it, and then we post it. Okay, that's
- 7:30the that's the big picture. But
- 7:33now underneath of each of those, there's
- 7:34probably six or seven things that
- 7:36actually happen in order to post it.
- 7:39It's like, "So, I actually go to this
- 7:40page. I look at the schedule of what
- 7:42was, you know, last posted, I add 3
- 7:44hours to it. I like you just have to
- 7:46like
- 7:47one word turns into six six actions. And
- 7:50it's just continuing down until there's
- 7:52you can't reduce it anymore, and then
- 7:53that's what you automate.
- 7:56>> Do you have a special AI implementation
- 7:57team to build this?
- 7:58>> Uh yeah, we have a full dev team. Yeah.
- 8:00>> Yeah, but they're specifically on this
- 8:02topic.
- 8:03>> Yeah. So, I think I think many of you,
- 8:05especially those of you who are online,
- 8:08uh an amazing high-leverage hire is just
- 8:10an AI like an AI automation person.
- 8:13Um they will not lack for work to do.
- 8:15Like they can just sit next to teams and
- 8:17just watch what they're doing and then
- 8:18just say like I can automate that. I can
- 8:20automate that. I can automate that.
- 8:23>> All right.
- 8:24So, that's something that we should do
- 8:25right now.
- 8:27>> Yeah.
- 8:27>> A dev hire?
- 8:28>> Yeah.
- 8:29If you have the cash flow for it. Mhm.
- 8:31>> What is a dev hire roughly?
- 8:33>> Mhm?
- 8:33>> What is that
- 8:34somebody like that roughly?
- 8:36>> Depends on how good they are. I think
- 8:38though as Lindsay Lohan said it, the
- 8:39best the limit does not exist. So,
- 8:42like there there's a there's a
- 8:44there's a price tag for every level of
- 8:45skill you want.
- 8:47But even just somebody who I would just
- 8:48consider like a hacker, and I say hacker
- 8:50like loosely, like somebody who just
- 8:51duct tapes tools together,
- 8:53probably like 150 grand a year.
- 8:58>> And in terms of prioritizing for us,
- 8:59would you focus on the delivery side
- 9:01first?
- 9:02>> I think that you getting um
- 9:06the elements that we walked through
- 9:07specifically around the expectation
- 9:09setting number one, um
- 9:12I think CAC expectations number two, and
- 9:15then the controllables around brand.
- 9:17Like the the brand controllables I think
- 9:19that should be largely automated.
- 9:21Um because it is automatable. It's
- 9:23literally pattern detection, which is
- 9:24like machines do it better than humans
- 9:26do anyways.
- 9:27And so, what what humans do shitty at is
- 9:29giving the pattern to recognize. And so,
- 9:32that's like in terms of like what skill
- 9:33will you need to be get good at is when
- 9:36someone says well, this is off brand,
- 9:37like what the [ __ ] does that mean? Like
- 9:39tell me in describables so that
- 9:41otherwise how am I if you can't tell me
- 9:43how am I going to know? So it has to be
- 9:45in black and white language.
- 9:50Yeah.
- 9:51I think for like home services and brick
- 9:53and mortar a lot of um
- 9:56basically all administrative work should
- 9:58just not really be a thing.
- 9:59Like, you know, invoicing, matching
- 10:02billables, like back office for sure is
- 10:05or like that's already there. Like
- 10:06that's like now. Um
- 10:09receivables, that's like now. Like you
- 10:12don't need to There's nothing there.
- 10:13Lead nurture,
- 10:15that's now. Like you don't
- 10:17Like a lot of stuff's already already
- 10:18kind of done. The advantage that um
- 10:21y'all have for in person is that like I
- 10:23don't know how horses will respond to
- 10:25robots. So you probably have a little
- 10:27bit of you probably have a little bit of
- 10:28security, you know, like
- 10:30>> [laughter]
- 10:30>> otherwise you're getting, you know, mule
- 10:31kicks into the into the side of the
- 10:33stall.
- 10:35Um
- 10:35uh
- 10:37I think that from a landscaping
- 10:38perspective
- 10:40there will be kind of like once Optimus
- 10:42comes out and you can teach it how to
- 10:43like mow lawns and [ __ ] like that'll be
- 10:44a thing for sure. Um
- 10:47Hm?
- 10:49Yeah.
- 10:50Yeah, yeah, I mean it can do it.
- 10:52Um there'll also be I think like job
- 10:54specific ones, but most likely I think
- 10:56the biggest proliferation's going to be
- 10:57around generalized humanoid robots
- 10:58because the world is already built for
- 10:59us. And so like as much as it's like,
- 11:02you know, I'm sure you've seen like the
- 11:03like the Roomba of lawn care, so I'm
- 11:06sure you've seen this things where it's
- 11:07like you drop around, but like I haven't
- 11:09seen anyone really take off with that.
- 11:11At least I haven't seen it. And I think
- 11:13it's just because like there's too many
- 11:14unique scenarios, it cost too much like
- 11:16the cost doesn't make sense yet. Maybe
- 11:18in three or four generations it'll be
- 11:20there. But in the meantime the skeleton
- 11:23key for the world is just the way the
- 11:24human body works. Door handles,
- 11:26everything's already built for that. So
- 11:28it's like as silly as it sounds it's
- 11:29like the The already We already built
- 11:30the world for ourselves. If there's a
- 11:32robot that can fit underneath the door,
- 11:34we could make a special purpose robot
- 11:36that does that, but it's like you'd have
- 11:37to do that in every door in every
- 11:38building. Or you just build a [ __ ]
- 11:40human robot, which is what everyone's
- 11:41doing.
- 11:44Yeah, I think I think you're fine for
- 11:45the short term. The The stuff that you
- 11:46should be focusing on from an automation
- 11:48perspective is going to be back office.
- 11:50Yeah, and there's and the thing is it's
- 11:52great at that. It's [ __ ] awesome at
- 11:54it, and you should totally use it for
- 11:55that.
- 12:00What about you, AJ?
- 12:01>> Yeah, like would that be something like
- 12:02using AR for like the nurture like that
- 12:05stuff and like
- 12:05>> 100%.
- 12:09Right now, voice is almost there. This
- 12:11is supposed to be the year of voice.
- 12:13Um it's close. It's not.
- 12:16There's a lot of tools out there. I
- 12:17won't make any recommendations cuz like
- 12:19they change all the time.
- 12:21Um I would say voice is very close.
- 12:23Text is there.
- 12:25>> Yeah, [snorts] I was thinking about like
- 12:27off hours having
- 12:29like a voice
- 12:31like auto auto attendant.
- 12:34>> I went to a gym
- 12:35that was local here. It's a It's like a
- 12:37very exclusive like whatever. I think
- 12:39it's like 10 grand a year or something
- 12:40like that. It has like
- 12:42400 members, and that's the deal.
- 12:44Um pretty interesting model, but I went
- 12:47to the site, and it was just a chat
- 12:48interface. It just said like, "What do
- 12:49you want to know?"
- 12:51And so I was like, "Hours." And it was
- 12:52like, "Here's the hours." I was like,
- 12:53"What else do you want to know?" And I
- 12:54was like, "Membership prices." And it
- 12:55was like, "Here's the membership
- 12:56prices." I was like, "What else do you
- 12:57want to know?" I was like, "Mm."
- 13:00I mean, it should have asked me for my
- 13:01information, but
- 13:03it's not perfect It was not well trained
- 13:04enough.
- 13:04>> [laughter]
- 13:05>> Um but like I was like, "This is pretty
- 13:07slick."
- 13:11Like why navigate when it just already
- 13:12has the answers?
- 13:16Not to get very odd for you guys, but in
- 13:17the next I would say 12 to 24 months, a
- 13:19lot of like the UX is going to
- 13:21disappear.
- 13:22Like we're not going to be clicking
- 13:23things.
- 13:24Like the mouse Like what brought
- 13:27computers into mainstream was a mouse.
- 13:30Like that was the big innovation was
- 13:32having a mouse you could point click and
- 13:33then all of a sudden people were like,
- 13:34"Oh, I just want that thing." It's like
- 13:34click and it worked. And so, nothing's
- 13:37really kind of happened in the
- 13:39computational world besides speed and
- 13:40power and all that stuff, but it's all
- 13:41been um more of the same.
- 13:44The next phase shift is that UX
- 13:45disappears, which is that you just have
- 13:48an agent that you just talk to.
- 13:50Right? And you say, "Hey, you know, what
- 13:51did we do in cash flow last month?" And
- 13:53you just text it or you say it and it
- 13:55just answers.
- 13:56And like the world of CRMs is going to
- 13:58Like this is this is the next 12 to 24.
- 14:00Yeah.
- 14:01Yeah.
- 14:03>> But don't you think that we are very
- 14:04into it, but 99% of people are still
- 14:06>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, there are legal
- 14:08firms that use fax machines now. And so,
- 14:11there's this idea that like, "Oh my god,
- 14:12the whole world" It's like, "No, just
- 14:13like always, humans plus technology will
- 14:16beat humans with inferior technology."
- 14:18And so, if you learn how to use the
- 14:19tech, you'll do better. But there will
- 14:21be people who still have law firms and
- 14:23use fax machines that will make money.
- 14:25It's just there will be people who don't
- 14:26use fax machines that will make more
- 14:28money.
- 14:32So, I'm not like an AI alarmist. I think
- 14:33it's going to take a while, but
- 14:35um
- 14:36I do think there's I won't even get into
- 14:38that, so I'll just stop, but
- 14:40we just get too much of a future no one
- 14:41knows anything about.
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