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  1. 0:00If you had invested just $10,000 into
  2. 0:02Apple when the iPhone first launched in
  3. 0:042007, that would be worth over $1
  4. 0:07million today. If you had invested
  5. 0:09$10,000 into Nvidia with the
  6. 0:11breakthrough of ChatGPT 3 years ago,
  7. 0:13that would be worth over $100,000 today.
  8. 0:16Well, four big breakthroughs are now
  9. 0:18happening in robotics and it's already
  10. 0:20an area that we can invest in. Because
  11. 0:22industrial and humanoid robots can't
  12. 0:24just run on a data center GPU, it
  13. 0:26requires a whole physical hardware stack
  14. 0:28to be invented. is Curran Francis and I
  15. 0:31have worked as a solution architect
  16. 0:33implementing emerging technologies at
  17. 0:35Fortune 500 companies for the past
  18. 0:37decade and I have never seen
  19. 0:38back-to-back breakthroughs this big. So,
  20. 0:41let me show you what is happening and
  21. 0:43how I plan to invest in it. Starting
  22. 0:45with our first stock.
  23. 0:47This is the Novanta Denali servo drive.
  24. 0:50It is small enough to fit inside a robot
  25. 0:52joint and it controls the electricity
  26. 0:55that makes that joint move. So, a
  27. 0:57robot's computer will tell a joint how
  28. 0:59it should move. The servo then sends
  29. 1:01power to the motor. An encoder measures
  30. 1:04where the shaft actually went and then
  31. 1:06the drive adjust the power again. This
  32. 1:08is the closed feedback loop that allows
  33. 1:10a computer or an AI to turn a command
  34. 1:13into a consistent action. It's how we
  35. 1:15connect the digital to the physical
  36. 1:17world. And Novanta specializes in these
  37. 1:20types of robotics components and it's
  38. 1:22the first part of our robotics map that
  39. 1:24will touch on all areas of the industry.
  40. 1:26But, they also sell force sensors and
  41. 1:28tools for the ends of robotic arms.
  42. 1:30Meaning, they act as a supplier to the
  43. 1:33entire physical stack for robotic
  44. 1:35movement. And here's why that matters
  45. 1:36for investors. This is a chart of the
  46. 1:38total number of operational industrial
  47. 1:41robotics stock as of 2024, which we can
  48. 1:44see was more than three times the number
  49. 1:46from just 10 years earlier. These are
  50. 1:48not future promises of advanced humanoid
  51. 1:50robots, these are real industrial robots
  52. 1:53that are being used in factories and
  53. 1:55manufacturing today. Although, we will
  54. 1:57see some of those others later on,
  55. 1:59because today most robots aren't doing
  56. 2:02your dishes for you. They're being used
  57. 2:03in tasks like medicine or domestic
  58. 2:06applications like vacuums or lawnmowers
  59. 2:08or logistics and automotive. And it's
  60. 2:10these boring robots that offer the most
  61. 2:12potential for Novanta's future. Because
  62. 2:14the big question for Novanta is how many
  63. 2:17of these robotics components can they
  64. 2:19supply each time a robot maker adds a
  65. 2:22new moving joint. They're very focused
  66. 2:24on the area that they know best. And
  67. 2:26based on the growth of the servo drive
  68. 2:28market, which is expected to pass 3 and
  69. 2:301/2 billion dollars per year by 2035
  70. 2:33with a big boom in demand coming from
  71. 2:35Chinese robots, where China is now the
  72. 2:38biggest buyer of both industrial and
  73. 2:40humanoid robots in the world. US
  74. 2:42companies are starting to compete more.
  75. 2:44So, that's the story of this pick and
  76. 2:46shovels robotics supplier, but now let's
  77. 2:48take a look at how well the numbers back
  78. 2:51that story up. And after that, we need
  79. 2:52to look at two big risks that anyone
  80. 2:55investing in this company needs to know
  81. 2:57about. So, Novanta is growing pretty
  82. 2:59quickly. They expect revenue to increase
  83. 3:0121% in their next quarter with solid net
  84. 3:04income and very solid operating cash
  85. 3:06flow in their most recent quarter. The
  86. 3:08company is listed at 16% undervalued
  87. 3:11across 12 different valuation metrics,
  88. 3:13but I think that this chart is the most
  89. 3:16revealing one for this company. This is
  90. 3:18a chart of their revenue by segment. So,
  91. 3:20in 2023, they broke that down into
  92. 3:23medical, precision medicine and
  93. 3:24manufacturing, and robotics and
  94. 3:26automation. But today, they've merged
  95. 3:28that into two segments, medical and
  96. 3:30automation, with the company coming in
  97. 3:32just shy of 1 billion dollars in revenue
  98. 3:34last year. And recently, they have
  99. 3:37doubled down on the medical side. In
  100. 3:39July 2026, the company announced that
  101. 3:41they had acquired Riverpoint Medical for
  102. 3:43around 20% of their total value. It was
  103. 3:46a big investment. And with this
  104. 3:48investment, we also see the first big
  105. 3:50risk to any robotics investors here.
  106. 3:53See, this now brings Novanta's medical
  107. 3:55revenue to around 60% of their total
  108. 3:57because while Riverpoint does make
  109. 3:59medical devices, it's more like sutures
  110. 4:02and headlamps than super high-tech
  111. 4:04robotics equipment. So, this has almost
  112. 4:06taken the company from a robotic
  113. 4:08supplier that specializes in medicine to
  114. 4:11almost a medical supplier that is also
  115. 4:14good at automation. And look, the
  116. 4:15medical robot market is expected to grow
  117. 4:18like crazy, more than doubling next 5
  118. 4:20years. But this move does make them less
  119. 4:23of a pure robotics play. But one other
  120. 4:25chart we should look at is their revenue
  121. 4:27from different countries because we can
  122. 4:29see pretty clearly revenue from China is
  123. 4:31actually not climbing nearly as quickly
  124. 4:33as some other countries despite how big
  125. 4:36that market is. And this next chart
  126. 4:38really shows us why. It shows that China
  127. 4:40has been reducing their imports of both
  128. 4:42robots and robotic parts, especially
  129. 4:45their US imports, while they're
  130. 4:46developing their own internal robotics
  131. 4:49tech, which ties in with the second and
  132. 4:51I think broader risk here, which is that
  133. 4:53Novanta is a relatively small company.
  134. 4:56They're only worth around $5 billion
  135. 4:58today. So, there's always the risk that
  136. 5:00a bigger competitor from China or Japan
  137. 5:03or even the US could step in and steal
  138. 5:06their market share. So, the company is
  139. 5:08well positioned for growth, but while
  140. 5:10their medical robotic side has some
  141. 5:12regulatory lock-in, their industrial
  142. 5:14motion segment lacks what Warren Buffett
  143. 5:17might call a strong moat with increasing
  144. 5:20Chinese competition. So, for me, I like
  145. 5:22the stock at today's prices, but if
  146. 5:24their automation business doesn't grow
  147. 5:26faster than the medical side over the
  148. 5:29next 2 years, I would probably sell to
  149. 5:31redeploy into a more pure play robotic
  150. 5:34stock. Maybe like this next stock on our
  151. 5:36list, which also sells across the
  152. 5:38robotics market, but it goes one level
  153. 5:40deeper, selling the chips that robot
  154. 5:42makers need. And the best part, this is
  155. 5:44still a $6 billion company, so it's
  156. 5:47under the radar. And after that, we'll
  157. 5:49look at some other robotics stocks,
  158. 5:50including my current biggest robotics
  159. 5:52holding. So, researching robotics stocks
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  210. 7:33stock.
  211. 7:34>> [music]
  212. 7:34>> Our next stock operates one level
  213. 7:36deeper, developing the chip layer of the
  214. 7:39robotic stack. Look at the hands on this
  215. 7:41humanoid. Allegro isn't selling the
  216. 7:43robot, they're selling the multiple
  217. 7:46chips that control each aspect of its
  218. 7:48movement. See, advanced robots don't
  219. 7:50operate like a single brain making
  220. 7:52decisions. Instead, some intelligence is
  221. 7:55offloaded to edge chips that control one
  222. 7:58aspect of a robot. And our next stock,
  223. 8:00Allegro MicroSystems, specializes in
  224. 8:02these chips. So, you have all these
  225. 8:04sensors. One to measure how much a motor
  226. 8:07has turned, a current sensor for
  227. 8:09electricity through the motor, or a
  228. 8:11driver controlling power to it. Each of
  229. 8:13those different functions requires a
  230. 8:15chip to run it. And we're not talking AI
  231. 8:17GPUs here, we're talking core real-time
  232. 8:20sensing and motor reflexes that are
  233. 8:22offloaded to specialized edge silicon.
  234. 8:25That is Allegro's specialty, which I
  235. 8:27like because it's an area of the market
  236. 8:29that Nvidia investors aren't even
  237. 8:31looking at yet. And unlike the
  238. 8:33trillion-dollar AI stocks, this company
  239. 8:35hasn't yet seen a big run-up in value.
  240. 8:38So, it may offer better upside at
  241. 8:40today's prices. So, here's why the stock
  242. 8:42is interesting as an investor. This
  243. 8:44company talks a lot about potential
  244. 8:46markets in their earnings. Electric
  245. 8:48cars, where they've operated for years
  246. 8:49and have a track record, industrial
  247. 8:51robots, and now even data centers with
  248. 8:54like fan controllers. But this slide
  249. 8:56really summarizes the growth potential
  250. 8:58for this stock. It's three different
  251. 9:00automation markets, and Allegro
  252. 9:02estimates that they can sell around $5
  253. 9:05in chips per household robot, $55 for
  254. 9:08factory robots, and up to $150 worth of
  255. 9:11chips in humanoid robots. And so, as we
  256. 9:13see the number of robot joints increase,
  257. 9:16whether by Google, Boston Dynamics, or
  258. 9:18Tesla, more complex use cases make
  259. 9:21Allegro more money as they get paid per
  260. 9:24joint, regardless of who actually wins
  261. 9:26the robot wars. That sounds a lot more
  262. 9:28ominous than it should, but that's the
  263. 9:29first principle story, and there's some
  264. 9:31early signs that it seems to be working.
  265. 9:33Allegro reported design wins with large
  266. 9:36robotics customers in China and North
  267. 9:38America in its latest investor
  268. 9:40presentation with sales in their
  269. 9:41industrial business up 59% in the past
  270. 9:44year. But a design win is not the same
  271. 9:47thing as a sale and this is still a
  272. 9:49relatively small part of the overall
  273. 9:51company. This chart shows Allegro's
  274. 9:53revenue by market and today 69% of their
  275. 9:56revenue comes from automotive and out of
  276. 9:59the remainder we know that data centers
  277. 10:01make up 17% of their revenue. So what's
  278. 10:03left over for chips going into robotic
  279. 10:06limbs is still a very small part of the
  280. 10:08business. But it's also part that's
  281. 10:10growing very quickly and here is why I
  282. 10:12like the stock and then after that we'll
  283. 10:14also look at the biggest risk that
  284. 10:16investors need to watch for here. So
  285. 10:18their current business of selling to
  286. 10:19automotive makers and data centers puts
  287. 10:21them at a reasonable valuation. Not
  288. 10:24cheap, not expensive. But they have this
  289. 10:26whole stack of expertise building chips
  290. 10:29for cars and they are saying they can
  291. 10:31carry that over into other robots too
  292. 10:33because cars are basically wheeled
  293. 10:36robots driven by a controller steering
  294. 10:38wheel. So there's almost this hidden
  295. 10:39business growing inside the company
  296. 10:42which the market may not be fully
  297. 10:44pricing in. Which if anyone has been
  298. 10:45watching since my early Palantir
  299. 10:47investment days is one of my favorite
  300. 10:49types of companies to invest in. Hidden
  301. 10:51accelerating growth. But the stock is
  302. 10:53not without risks and the biggest one is
  303. 10:56that they're unproven in the broader
  304. 10:58robotics market. So a bet here is really
  305. 11:00buying their future growth and not the
  306. 11:03current business. This is especially
  307. 11:05risky given how cyclical the automobile
  308. 11:07market can be. So there may be some
  309. 11:09trips up and down and up again in this
  310. 11:11stock if you hold long-term which is how
  311. 11:14you get in early on a stock but it's
  312. 11:16also more risky than just buying an ETF
  313. 11:18which I'll also cover some relevant
  314. 11:20robotics ETFs later in the video. But
  315. 11:22let's move from the super small more
  316. 11:24speculative robot plays and into one of
  317. 11:27the most proven robotics companies in
  318. 11:29the market but whose stock is actually
  319. 11:31down around 30% in the past year.
  320. 11:34>> [music]
  321. 11:35>> So, whenever someone sends me a clip of
  322. 11:37a backflipping Chinese robot that knows
  323. 11:39kung fu, I point them to this stock
  324. 11:42because flashy demos don't generate free
  325. 11:44cash flow, but this company shifts
  326. 11:46billions of dollars in goods every year
  327. 11:48and they're producing real value for
  328. 11:50their customers today. And there are
  329. 11:52some big updates on this stock since I
  330. 11:54last covered them. So, Symbiotic is a
  331. 11:56warehouse automation company. They build
  332. 11:58the robots, package movers. They've even
  333. 12:00designed custom warehouses where the
  334. 12:02entire building acts like one giant
  335. 12:05robot system with lights out automation,
  336. 12:07meaning no humans even go to some areas.
  337. 12:09And they operate across the entire
  338. 12:11supply chain for businesses. They are an
  339. 12:13absolute leader in their field and
  340. 12:15you'll probably recognize a lot of their
  341. 12:17customers. They represent an actual
  342. 12:19robotics company in a robotics map. They
  343. 12:22provide end value to a customer. But,
  344. 12:24when I first covered this stock 9 months
  345. 12:26ago, I said this, but I'm waiting to
  346. 12:28invest until I see how the Walmart deal
  347. 12:31will play out over the next year. I
  348. 12:32decided not to invest then because the
  349. 12:34whole investment thesis centered around
  350. 12:37one big deal that Symbiotic had signed
  351. 12:39with Walmart worth up to $5 billion in
  352. 12:42backlog. Walmart being one of the
  353. 12:44largest warehouse users in the entire
  354. 12:46world. But, 9 months later, we can now
  355. 12:48see just how well that deal has turned
  356. 12:50out as well as one acquisition that
  357. 12:52changes the math on this stock. And of
  358. 12:54course, we'll also look at the biggest
  359. 12:56risks that investors could face here.
  360. 12:58So, Walmart originally sold its advanced
  361. 13:01systems and robotics business to
  362. 13:03Symbiotic and then hired Symbiotic to
  363. 13:05develop automated pick up and delivery
  364. 13:07systems for its stores. This was a
  365. 13:09really big deal, but it was also
  366. 13:11contingent on Symbiotic hitting certain
  367. 13:13milestones to get paid out. In total,
  368. 13:15Symbiotic had a backlog of 22 and a half
  369. 13:18billion dollars, but a lot of that
  370. 13:20revenue would only appear if they could
  371. 13:23actually execute. And now that they
  372. 13:24actually have more track record under
  373. 13:26their belt, things seem to be working
  374. 13:28out pretty well so far. Their modular
  375. 13:30distribution centers, which are designed
  376. 13:32to be expanded over time, have helped
  377. 13:34drive revenue of over $700 million in
  378. 13:37their latest quarter, up 22% in the past
  379. 13:40year. And with this growth, the company
  380. 13:42has finally achieved consistent
  381. 13:44profitability. Now, Symbotic didn't
  382. 13:46break out how much of this comes from
  383. 13:48Walmart specifically, but it does show
  384. 13:50that their numbers are headed in the
  385. 13:52right direction. But there was some even
  386. 13:53bigger news this quarter. In July 2026,
  387. 13:56Symbotic acquired Arms Innovation, a
  388. 13:58software platform for coordinating
  389. 14:01people, robots, and tasks across a
  390. 14:03warehouse. So, it gets all the data in
  391. 14:05one place and then acts as the digital
  392. 14:07brain for all the physical systems in a
  393. 14:09warehouse. But what matters to investors
  394. 14:11here is it offers a way for Symbotic to
  395. 14:14get paid twice. Once for the expensive
  396. 14:16warehouse setup and again as recurring
  397. 14:19software support, plus any ad-hoc
  398. 14:21support that customers need. And we know
  399. 14:23Wall Street tends to pay more for
  400. 14:25recurring revenue. Now, Symbotic
  401. 14:26software revenue was already up 57% in
  402. 14:30the past year, not even including this
  403. 14:32acquisition, but that was a relatively
  404. 14:34small part of the business before. After
  405. 14:36the acquisition, this higher margin part
  406. 14:38of the business seems like it's going to
  407. 14:40become a very core part of Symbotic's
  408. 14:42value going forward. So, we'll have to
  409. 14:44wait and see, but the company's stock
  410. 14:46price has fallen into a much more
  411. 14:48reasonable valuation range, and that's
  412. 14:50not even factoring in the potential
  413. 14:52growth from software in its acquisition.
  414. 14:55But there is still one capital R risk
  415. 14:57that investors in this company need to
  416. 14:59watch out for, and that is Walmart.
  417. 15:01Symbotic's 10-Q report showed a
  418. 15:04mysterious customer A that now accounts
  419. 15:06for 90.5%
  420. 15:08of their revenue, up from 83.8%
  421. 15:11of their revenue last year. Given that
  422. 15:13we know Walmart was planning to spend
  423. 15:15more with Symbotic as they hit certain
  424. 15:17targets, it's pretty clear that
  425. 15:18Symbotic's entire business is dependent
  426. 15:21on maintaining Walmart as their biggest
  427. 15:23customer. So, a lot of growth potential,
  428. 15:25but also some serious concentration risk
  429. 15:28if Walmart were to ever leave. Although,
  430. 15:29Walmart does also own part of the
  431. 15:31company, which helps mitigate that a
  432. 15:33little bit.
  433. 15:34But, for our next stock, I want to look
  434. 15:36at a different kind of robot supplier,
  435. 15:38one that doesn't need a specific robot
  436. 15:40maker to win. And at the end, I will
  437. 15:42also share my overall top pick from the
  438. 15:44companies I've covered. Now, I really
  439. 15:46wanted to include an ETF and a software
  440. 15:49company on this list to really round out
  441. 15:51the robotics market, but I decided to
  442. 15:53keep the video more focused on under the
  443. 15:55radar companies. That said, a big part
  444. 15:57of the robotics map is the software
  445. 16:00stack and machine learning models
  446. 16:02enabled by companies like Nvidia and
  447. 16:04trained by companies like Google. And
  448. 16:06one way to get exposure to the entire
  449. 16:08robotic space is through an ETF like the
  450. 16:11VanEck Robotics ETF, ticker symbol I
  451. 16:13bought, which includes stocks like
  452. 16:15Nvidia, EMR, and ASML, chip and
  453. 16:17automation companies that are some of
  454. 16:19the biggest in the world. That ETF also
  455. 16:21includes Novanta and Symbotic, and it
  456. 16:23also holds some Japanese and even
  457. 16:25limited Chinese exposure. But, that is a
  458. 16:28pretty small ETF, so for a slightly
  459. 16:30higher expense ratio, there's also the
  460. 16:32Robo ETF, which focuses on smaller cap
  461. 16:35automation stocks. Neither is my
  462. 16:37favorite ETF in the world, there's just
  463. 16:39really limited options in the robotics
  464. 16:41market, but they are a more diversified
  465. 16:43way to play this. You could also just
  466. 16:44buy Google, which tends to follow every
  467. 16:46tech trend. But, okay, let's get to
  468. 16:48stock number one on our countdown, and
  469. 16:50then I'll share my top stock pick from
  470. 16:52the list that we've looked at.
  471. 16:54One area where we have seen robot sales
  472. 16:56surge is surgical robots, and our next
  473. 16:59stock specializes in the motion control
  474. 17:01systems that power this, but they also
  475. 17:04power this, and even this. Regal Rexnord
  476. 17:08is the last piece of our map, and they
  477. 17:09are part of the broader power and
  478. 17:11industrial motion market. Around 31% of
  479. 17:15of sales came from their automation and
  480. 17:17motion control business or $478 million
  481. 17:20this quarter with a big chunk of that
  482. 17:22coming from their 2020 acquisition of
  483. 17:25Ultra Industrial Motion for $5 billion
  484. 17:28around half of their value today. This
  485. 17:30company sits at a pretty reasonable
  486. 17:32price and while they are mostly an
  487. 17:34industrial company, they have
  488. 17:36substantial upside from automation. So
  489. 17:38looking at all the stocks we've covered,
  490. 17:40if I had to pick one winner, I would
  491. 17:41probably go with Allegro just cuz I
  492. 17:44really like the hidden automation growth
  493. 17:46that's built into their business. But
  494. 17:48every stock has potential upside and
  495. 17:50potential risk. So let me know what is
  496. 17:52your top pick below. And if you found
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