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  1. 0:00This is Tina, and she's competing for a
  2. 0:02chance to win $100,000
  3. 0:04and this golden ticket, which gives her
  4. 0:05access to an entire year of guidance
  5. 0:07from me and the team behind my $250
  6. 0:09million per year portfolio. She'll have
  7. 0:11the next hour with me, where she'll
  8. 0:12explain her business, and at the end,
  9. 0:14I'll decide if she'll scale or fail. If
  10. 0:16she's chosen to scale, she'll move on to
  11. 0:18the finale for a chance to win the grand
  12. 0:19prize.
  13. 0:20My name is Alex Hormozi, and this is
  14. 0:23Scale or Fail.
  15. 0:24>> [music]
  16. 0:32>> My name is Tina Sue, and I help parents
  17. 0:35of children with autism, ADHD, and
  18. 0:37speech [music] delay. The reason why I'm
  19. 0:39here to get help is because I know that
  20. 0:42this mission is so [music] much bigger
  21. 0:44than me. It is my vision that in my
  22. 0:46lifetime, through this work, getting it
  23. 0:49out to as many families [music] as
  24. 0:50possible and having so many examples of
  25. 0:53children that are healing, so we can
  26. 0:54change the mainstream views on how
  27. 0:57autism [music] is treated.
  28. 1:00>> Hi.
  29. 1:01>> Hi. How's it going?
  30. 1:02>> Good. Amazing.
  31. 1:03>> Excited?
  32. 1:03>> Yeah.
  33. 1:04>> Ready to rock?
  34. 1:04>> Yes.
  35. 1:05>> All right.
  36. 1:05>> Yeah.
  37. 1:06>> Tell me about the business.
  38. 1:07>> My name is Tina, Tina Sue, and in the
  39. 1:08last 12 months I did $770,000,
  40. 1:12and $555,000
  41. 1:14is profit.
  42. 1:15>> Amazing.
  43. 1:16>> 72% profit margin.
  44. 1:17>> And you helped a bunch of families.
  45. 1:18>> Yep.
  46. 1:19>> Okay. So, what do you sell? How do you
  47. 1:20make the dollars work?
  48. 1:21>> Yeah, so my core product is called Hi
  49. 1:24Mama.
  50. 1:24>> Okay.
  51. 1:25>> And it's a group program that helps
  52. 1:27children [music] who have speech delay.
  53. 1:29So, for example, non-verbal kids to
  54. 1:31speak their first words.
  55. 1:32>> Okay.
  56. 1:33>> While also at the same time healing,
  57. 1:35reducing of autism symptoms as well.
  58. 1:38>> Okay. Got it. And the offer you sell is
  59. 1:402,500 bucks a year?
  60. 1:41>> Uh the offer, so the Hi Mama program is
  61. 1:442,500.
  62. 1:45>> Uh-huh.
  63. 1:46>> And it's for the year with a 3-month
  64. 1:48intensive in the beginning, 9 months of
  65. 1:50aftercare.
  66. 1:51>> Okay.
  67. 1:52>> So, once a person is in the program,
  68. 1:53then I sell them on to the all-access
  69. 1:55pass, which gets them every cohort of
  70. 1:58High Mama the 3-month intensive.
  71. 2:00>> Cool.
  72. 2:00>> So, they can stay in the energy and they
  73. 2:02can continue
  74. 2:03>> Cool.
  75. 2:03>> to move on to the next level of their
  76. 2:05children's healing.
  77. 2:06>> What do you think stopping you right
  78. 2:07now?
  79. 2:09>> Me?
  80. 2:11>> [laughter]
  81. 2:11>> Okay.
  82. 2:12>> So, I am doing everything.
  83. 2:15>> Mhm.
  84. 2:15>> Um I just like I can't let go of
  85. 2:18>> You're so busy.
  86. 2:18>> so so I have like every single Instagram
  87. 2:20conversation. This is how I currently I
  88. 2:22don't do sales calls. Uh and I'm in
  89. 2:25every piece of marketing. I'm in the
  90. 2:26delivery.
  91. 2:27>> Yeah.
  92. 2:27>> My team handles customer service, but
  93. 2:29I'm often in that as well. So, just I
  94. 2:31have my hands in everything and at the
  95. 2:33end of the day I just don't have time
  96. 2:35for anything. [music] So, low-hanging
  97. 2:37fruits just doesn't get done.
  98. 2:39>> Yeah.
  99. 2:40>> Yeah.
  100. 2:40>> Understood. Okay. Why does solving this
  101. 2:42matter? Why is growing this business
  102. 2:44important versus just staying where you
  103. 2:45are and making 500 grand a year?
  104. 2:46>> Yeah. Yeah. Um
  105. 2:48I mean, it's it's it's not about the
  106. 2:49money. Um before starting this business,
  107. 2:52I had another business and I still have
  108. 2:53that business and [music] I had
  109. 2:56developed that other business
  110. 2:58you know, from nothing like when my son
  111. 2:59was a baby between the hours of 8:00
  112. 3:02p.m. and 2:00 a.m.
  113. 3:03>> Savage.
  114. 3:04>> I grew that all the way to $20 million.
  115. 3:06>> Amazing.
  116. 3:07>> And I had that business when this
  117. 3:08happened with my son. And so um so my
  118. 3:11son used to have autism, ADHD, and
  119. 3:13epilepsy. And [music]
  120. 3:16we had done everything conventional
  121. 3:17medicine told us to do.
  122. 3:18>> Mhm.
  123. 3:19>> All the conventional therapies and
  124. 3:20medication.
  125. 3:21>> Mhm.
  126. 3:21>> And [music] my son got worse and at he
  127. 3:24was when he was nine.
  128. 3:26>> Yeah.
  129. 3:26>> The last [music] of his ADHD
  130. 3:28>> Mhm.
  131. 3:29>> I'm going to cry. Okay.
  132. 3:31>> When he was nine, the last of his ADHD
  133. 3:34medication stopped working. He had been
  134. 3:35on seven at that time.
  135. 3:37And they were ready to move him on to
  136. 3:39antipsychotics.
  137. 3:40>> Yeah.
  138. 3:41>> And he stopped [music] sleeping and it
  139. 3:42was just hell.
  140. 3:43>> Yeah.
  141. 3:44>> Yeah. Um
  142. 3:45>> And so, you wanted to fix it?
  143. 3:46>> And then somebody like just recommended
  144. 3:48it's like, "Hey, look into holistic
  145. 3:50change what you're eating and the
  146. 3:52environment and so I went on this like
  147. 3:55holistic journey to helping him.
  148. 3:58And
  149. 3:59in two years
  150. 4:01>> It's okay.
  151. 4:02>> Um
  152. 4:03>> [music]
  153. 4:03>> in two years all of his
  154. 4:06symptoms of autism, ADHD, and epilepsy
  155. 4:10went into [music] remission.
  156. 4:11>> Awesome.
  157. 4:12It's amazing.
  158. 4:13>> Yeah, and then when he got better
  159. 4:15I was like I have to do this.
  160. 4:17>> Yeah. Well, congratulations. You did it.
  161. 4:20Now you're helping people out. You're
  162. 4:22making money doing it.
  163. 4:22>> Yeah, so I had to like I just paused
  164. 4:24from my other business and like just
  165. 4:26went all in and just I just go in with
  166. 4:28the attitude [music] of I'm on year
  167. 4:29four. I just go in with like I didn't
  168. 4:31even look at the numbers. I'm like I
  169. 4:32don't even care. [music] I'm willing to
  170. 4:33work for free
  171. 4:35cuz that's how I started my first
  172. 4:36business is literally, you know,
  173. 4:39>> [sighs]
  174. 4:39>> So, we're going to You can big exhale.
  175. 4:43You're good. There you go. You're good.
  176. 4:44[laughter]
  177. 4:45>> not what I planned on saying.
  178. 4:46>> You're fine. Don't worry about it.
  179. 4:47You're good. I'll probably challenge you
  180. 4:49on a couple things around like the
  181. 4:50numbers and making money because I'm
  182. 4:54sensing that that will limit the amount
  183. 4:56of people that you can help because on
  184. 4:58some level and you can correct me if I'm
  185. 5:00wrong, it feels like you may have
  186. 5:02equated like maybe charging more having
  187. 5:05upsells or even having a more
  188. 5:06standardized sales process with bad. And
  189. 5:10I I don't think that that's going to be
  190. 5:13the case and I think the more we can
  191. 5:14structure some of these things and know
  192. 5:16all of the numbers of the business the
  193. 5:17more families you're ultimately going to
  194. 5:19help.
  195. 5:19>> Yeah. Yeah.
  196. 5:20>> Okay, I'll ask this question but I'm
  197. 5:22pretty sure I know the answer.
  198. 5:23>> Okay.
  199. 5:24>> Do you think the business model as it
  200. 5:25currently stands will scale?
  201. 5:29>> How it is today probably not to the
  202. 5:32scale I would want.
  203. 5:33>> Okay.
  204. 5:34>> But but it can scale to my goal.
  205. 5:37>> Okay, so you're open to changing some
  206. 5:38things.
  207. 5:38>> I'm open. Yes.
  208. 5:40>> cool. Let's do it. Let's rock.
  209. 5:41>> Wow, Gino seems to be extremely genuine.
  210. 5:44Her The of business is needed. [music]
  211. 5:46>> I wanted to make it clear that I'm not
  212. 5:49in it just for the money.
  213. 5:50>> Being a mom myself, I definitely related
  214. 5:52to that goal for her and how she's
  215. 5:53helping so many other families.
  216. 5:55>> I think we have a a similar goal of
  217. 5:57helping people and so I I really like
  218. 5:58that. I have no doubt that what she's
  219. 6:01doing is is going to scale incredibly
  220. 6:03well because of the market that she's
  221. 6:05in.
  222. 6:10>> So, [music]
  223. 6:11we're going to fix this in standard
  224. 6:13fashion and by standard fashion, I like
  225. 6:15doing things back to front.
  226. 6:17>> So, we'll fix offer
  227. 6:19and then we'll fix the conversion
  228. 6:21process and you're like, how's this back
  229. 6:22to front? Well, this is the thing you
  230. 6:24deliver, right?
  231. 6:25>> Mhm.
  232. 6:25>> Um and then we'll go to traffic. Okay?
  233. 6:29This is kind of our our three-step
  234. 6:31approach. Okay, so right now, you
  235. 6:32currently don't have like a formal pitch
  236. 6:35or webinar that you go through. You do
  237. 6:36like a three to four hour like Monday
  238. 6:38thing.
  239. 6:38>> Yeah, and it's only just because I have
  240. 6:40resistance to creating webinars.
  241. 6:42>> Yeah, why?
  242. 6:43>> Um
  243. 6:44>> [sighs and gasps]
  244. 6:45>> I just I don't want this to be
  245. 6:47sorry for saying this, but like bro
  246. 6:49marketing. Like I don't I don't want
  247. 6:50people to feel sold to.
  248. 6:52>> Mhm.
  249. 6:53>> Um so
  250. 6:53>> People only feel sold to if it's bad.
  251. 6:55>> Oh.
  252. 6:56>> A good selling
  253. 6:57>> Yeah.
  254. 6:58>> feels good.
  255. 6:58>> I tried working on a webinar for like a
  256. 7:00few weeks and I just like couldn't get
  257. 7:01>> about how many things you've bought over
  258. 7:03the last month.
  259. 7:04How many did you feel sold to?
  260. 7:06>> That's true.
  261. 7:06>> Probably not many.
  262. 7:07>> Yeah.
  263. 7:07>> And every one of those purchases,
  264. 7:09somebody for sure thought about how to
  265. 7:10get you to buy.
  266. 7:11>> Yeah.
  267. 7:11>> It's just they did a good job.
  268. 7:12>> Yeah.
  269. 7:13>> All right, so just from a belief
  270. 7:14breaking perspective, I agree with you,
  271. 7:15should not sell poorly.
  272. 7:16>> Yeah.
  273. 7:16>> So, you should sell well.
  274. 7:18>> Yeah.
  275. 7:18>> Yeah? Okay. So, fundamentally, what's
  276. 7:21happening is you're probably doing over
  277. 7:23three to four hours covering the points
  278. 7:25that could be covered in 45 minutes
  279. 7:27and you just don't want to be as
  280. 7:29structured about it. And if you're just
  281. 7:30structured about it, your value per
  282. 7:31second will go up for the for the the
  283. 7:33parent.
  284. 7:34>> Yeah.
  285. 7:34>> And if your stated goal is that you want
  286. 7:35to help more parents,
  287. 7:37having the expectation that they're
  288. 7:38going to wait two, three hours before
  289. 7:39hearing about how you can help them um
  290. 7:41is doing a disservice cuz you're losing
  291. 7:43half of them anyways. So, like I think
  292. 7:45that does them a disservice
  293. 7:46>> Yeah.
  294. 7:47>> because of whatever belief that you have
  295. 7:48about selling poorly.
  296. 7:49>> Yeah.
  297. 7:49>> Right?
  298. 7:50>> Yeah.
  299. 7:50>> So, I think from a this is me actually
  300. 7:52getting into conversion, but I'll put
  301. 7:54this here, which is
  302. 7:56structured
  303. 7:58webinar.
  304. 7:59And I think one of the things that holds
  305. 8:00a lot of people back with webinars is
  306. 8:02they think that like webinars have this
  307. 8:04very specific
  308. 8:05>> Yeah.
  309. 8:05>> language pattern. It's No, it's just
  310. 8:07it's really clear communication. It's
  311. 8:10Let me tell my quick story so that I
  312. 8:11have some reason why you should listen
  313. 8:13to me. There's going to be a big promise
  314. 8:14right before that. That's what you start
  315. 8:16with, which is like why the hell are you
  316. 8:17here? What it like why is it worth
  317. 8:18staying on?
  318. 8:19Right? Who am I? And then you say, this
  319. 8:22is the main thing that we're going to
  320. 8:23talk about, which is then the the call
  321. 8:25it your your core you showing what you
  322. 8:27shared here was your kind of core
  323. 8:30transformation that you went through.
  324. 8:31This is the old way, new way. It's a
  325. 8:32very classic pitch.
  326. 8:34Um I used to do this, this didn't work,
  327. 8:36and then I discovered a friend of mine,
  328. 8:38guru comes in, shares the secret
  329. 8:40knowledge, which was that holistic was
  330. 8:41the way. I implemented the stuff, and
  331. 8:43then I got this great outcome both
  332. 8:44internally and externally. It was
  333. 8:45amazing. But it didn't just work for me,
  334. 8:47it worked for X, Y, and Z as well,
  335. 8:49because then we're going to hit the
  336. 8:50different avatars that come up. And so,
  337. 8:51the big three biggest concerns that
  338. 8:53people have about this is problem number
  339. 8:55one, problem number two, problem number
  340. 8:56three.
  341. 8:57And then you just systematically break
  342. 8:59down each of the three problems. And
  343. 9:01with each one of them, you're going to
  344. 9:02follow a
  345. 9:03what they think.
  346. 9:05They think this, right?
  347. 9:07And then you're going to say
  348. 9:09why wrong?
  349. 9:10>> [snorts]
  350. 9:10>> Why that's not true? Like I used to
  351. 9:12believe this, it's not true.
  352. 9:14What's right?
  353. 9:15And then proof.
  354. 9:16And proof can be anything. Proof can be
  355. 9:17stats, it can be stories,
  356. 9:19um anything that just proves the point
  357. 9:20and ideally as many forms of proof as
  358. 9:22you can.
  359. 9:22>> Okay.
  360. 9:23>> Okay? So, if we can just take our 4-hour
  361. 9:26marathon and turn it into a 45-minute
  362. 9:29more structured presentation with slides
  363. 9:31that has visuals to support because some
  364. 9:33of them are listening within the
  365. 9:34background, all these other things. If
  366. 9:36you can have it more visually
  367. 9:37stimulating, you'll get a higher
  368. 9:38conversion rate. Cuz right now I think
  369. 9:40you actually have an avatar that's in a
  370. 9:41ton of pain and wants to buy cuz you're
  371. 9:43converting like 9% right now, which I
  372. 9:45think you could probably convert double
  373. 9:46that because you're also selling to a
  374. 9:48warm audience. And if you want to scale
  375. 9:50it, which you're saying you do,
  376. 9:52you have to sell to a cold audience. And
  377. 9:54so the ads that you're running right now
  378. 9:56are pretty much just targeting your
  379. 9:57existing people since most people are
  380. 9:58coming in already know who you are. So
  381. 10:00we can't sell to people who already know
  382. 10:01who you are. You have to sell like they
  383. 10:03don't know.
  384. 10:04And then you will sell people who don't
  385. 10:05know you. But if you sell only like
  386. 10:07you're selling to people who do know
  387. 10:08you, then no one who doesn't know you
  388. 10:10will buy.
  389. 10:11>> Got it.
  390. 10:11>> So it makes sense? You got to sell like
  391. 10:12it's cold to warm and it converts
  392. 10:14everything. If you sell like it's warm
  393. 10:15to everyone, you'll only convert warm.
  394. 10:17>> Got it. Got it.
  395. 10:17>> Okay. From an offer perspective,
  396. 10:20>> [sighs]
  397. 10:21>> do you know what your upsell uh
  398. 10:22percentage is from the back end of the
  399. 10:24front end?
  400. 10:24>> 10.
  401. 10:25>> So 10% of people are taking the second
  402. 10:26offer?
  403. 10:26>> Yeah.
  404. 10:27>> Mhm. Any reason you don't just do
  405. 10:296-month and have it recurring?
  406. 10:32>> That's a good I I've thought about that.
  407. 10:34>> and three. Like three months of
  408. 10:35intensive, three months of
  409. 10:37>> aftercare.
  410. 10:37>> aftercare whatever. And so we want to
  411. 10:39make the actual conversion to aftercare
  412. 10:41before aftercare comes up.
  413. 10:43So this is also a conversion thing, but
  414. 10:45sell
  415. 10:47upsell
  416. 10:49during intensive three months. All
  417. 10:51right. And ideally ideally you want to
  418. 10:53sell at the halfway point
  419. 10:55and then at like the two-thirds and then
  420. 10:57you do a last chance
  421. 11:00at the end. So right now you're only
  422. 11:01selling here.
  423. 11:02You want to sell here and here as well.
  424. 11:04The more times you ask the more likely
  425. 11:05they are to take the purchase offer. If
  426. 11:06you sell only at the end typically and
  427. 11:08you're not even selling, you're like
  428. 11:09kind of mentioning it.
  429. 11:11>> mentioned it.
  430. 11:11>> Right. If you actually if you were
  431. 11:13actually just only sell, you'd usually
  432. 11:14get about a third. So you're getting
  433. 11:15less than that, which is if you just
  434. 11:17wait till the end.
  435. 11:17>> Got it.
  436. 11:18>> If you wait if you go to the halfway
  437. 11:19point and the the two-thirds point,
  438. 11:21you'll be able to get like half or more.
  439. 11:23>> Got it. Got it. I actually sell most to
  440. 11:25the people in the aftercare. So when
  441. 11:27they're done closer to the 12 month.
  442. 11:29>> You want to sell them when they're hot.
  443. 11:30>> Yeah.
  444. 11:31>> Cuz everyone cools off over time. So you
  445. 11:32want to sell when the pain is pain is
  446. 11:33still elevated and they're and ideally
  447. 11:35from a buying perspective, you want to
  448. 11:37sell when they're mid-decision, not
  449. 11:38making a new decision.
  450. 11:39So, they're still in flight and you're
  451. 11:41like, "Hey, let's just keep the party
  452. 11:42going." Not, "Okay, we've finished that
  453. 11:44thing. Now, do you want to start the
  454. 11:45It's a It's a different It's a heavier
  455. 11:47sale." And about a third of people will
  456. 11:48take that offer, but you can get two
  457. 11:49thirds or more if you sell during the
  458. 11:51process.
  459. 11:52>> Got it.
  460. 11:52>> People are always scared of that cuz
  461. 11:53they're like, "What's the I'm not done
  462. 11:54yet." It's like, "It's okay. They've
  463. 11:55already gotten value."
  464. 11:56>> paid. I don't want to
  465. 11:57>> It's not like that. It doesn't work that
  466. 11:58way. If you go for run a marathon and
  467. 12:00you buy shoes and the guy's like, "Hey,
  468. 12:01do you want, you know, one of those tank
  469. 12:03tops to go with it and an iPhone band?"
  470. 12:05You're probably like, "Well, well, I
  471. 12:06just bought. I'm not buying anything."
  472. 12:07It's like, "No, you're still in the
  473. 12:08You're still in flight, right?" Now, if
  474. 12:10you finish the marathon race and they
  475. 12:11say, "Do you want an an iPhone thing for
  476. 12:13your wrist?" You're like, "No, I'm I'm
  477. 12:14actually pretty good."
  478. 12:15You know what I'm saying?
  479. 12:16>> Yeah. Okay.
  480. 12:17>> Okay.
  481. 12:17>> Um
  482. 12:19Okay. So, from the offer itself, I think
  483. 12:22I think we go $2,500.
  484. 12:25Uh basically bi-annually. Hopefully I'm
  485. 12:27saying this right. I think it's
  486. 12:28bi-annually. If it's not, I'm sure
  487. 12:30someone in the comments will correct me.
  488. 12:32Okay. So, during the launch, does
  489. 12:33everyone buy through checkout?
  490. 12:34>> They can buy through checkout, but a lot
  491. 12:36of them
  492. 12:36>> Do they?
  493. 12:37>> Uh about 30% do.
  494. 12:39>> so a third of them do. So, what I want
  495. 12:40to do, and this might sound like a
  496. 12:42little little wild,
  497. 12:43>> Yeah.
  498. 12:43>> is I want you to have $2,500 checkout
  499. 12:46price.
  500. 12:46>> Mhm.
  501. 12:47>> And want to have a $3,000
  502. 12:50uh one-on-one price.
  503. 12:54So, if I have to talk to you one-on-one,
  504. 12:55it's it's $500 extra. And it's just
  505. 12:57because if I were to charge hourly for
  506. 12:59me consulting with you, it would be $500
  507. 13:01an hour.
  508. 13:02>> Yeah.
  509. 13:02>> And so, I'll only charge you for 1 hour
  510. 13:05um to do that, but
  511. 13:07this is if you're like on the fence, let
  512. 13:09me just already cover all these issues.
  513. 13:10Now, I think part of the reason that
  514. 13:11you're getting all these questions is
  515. 13:12you don't have a structured webinar.
  516. 13:15So, you're not having a structured FAQ
  517. 13:16part, right? Which then this is going to
  518. 13:18go to conversion. What I want you to do
  519. 13:20is if you look at all You already have
  520. 13:22all the DMs categorized, right? Or you
  521. 13:23have like a big data set of all the all
  522. 13:26the DM conversations you've had, right?
  523. 13:27>> Yeah. Yeah.
  524. 13:28>> I want you to take call it every single
  525. 13:30bucket of of FAQ
  526. 13:32>> Mhm.
  527. 13:33>> and I want you to review it at the end
  528. 13:34of the webinar. And I want you to do it
  529. 13:36is just pull the question behind you or
  530. 13:38pull it up on the screen and then answer
  531. 13:40it.
  532. 13:40>> Answer it live.
  533. 13:41>> Yeah. Okay. Okay.
  534. 13:42>> Because because they have the same
  535. 13:43questions.
  536. 13:44>> Yeah.
  537. 13:44>> There's there's no new questions.
  538. 13:45There's no new questions.
  539. 13:46>> Yeah.
  540. 13:47>> So the only reason that like you have to
  541. 13:48do this one-on-one is and it's wasting a
  542. 13:50ton of your time is we're just not
  543. 13:51handling it. Just handle it up front.
  544. 13:54So when we have our think what they
  545. 13:55think we have our point, you know, intro
  546. 13:59our promise
  547. 14:02your intro which is your story
  548. 14:04origin
  549. 14:05and we have point one, two, and three
  550. 14:08of the webinar
  551. 14:08>> Mhm.
  552. 14:09>> then you have your offer
  553. 14:12and then you have your FAQ.
  554. 14:14>> And then how many questions?
  555. 14:15>> As many as there are.
  556. 14:16>> Okay.
  557. 14:17>> Just think about buckets. Like I mean
  558. 14:18there's there's probably six flavors or
  559. 14:20eight flavors or nine Whatever how many
  560. 14:21questions there are like you answer all
  561. 14:22of them.
  562. 14:23>> Yeah.
  563. 14:23>> As long as they're on, keep answering.
  564. 14:25>> Okay.
  565. 14:26>> Okay.
  566. 14:27>> But
  567. 14:27>> Cuz you're used to doing three or four
  568. 14:28hours. So like you just keep answering
  569. 14:29questions. I'm dead serious. Just keep
  570. 14:31answering questions. If they're still
  571. 14:32on, keep answering questions.
  572. 14:33>> Yeah.
  573. 14:33>> But answer the ones that you already
  574. 14:34know that represent the big like answer
  575. 14:36it in in order of greatest percentage of
  576. 14:38questions.
  577. 14:39>> Okay.
  578. 14:39>> So it's like the majority if I had only
  579. 14:41pick one question to answer it'd be this
  580. 14:42one and it's going to be 40% of people.
  581. 14:43And my number two most asked question is
  582. 14:45going to be this which is 25% of people.
  583. 14:46And then my number three and then it
  584. 14:47goes into the long tail.
  585. 14:48>> Got it. Got it.
  586. 14:49>> Okay?
  587. 14:49>> But the problem with like having the
  588. 14:51live parents come here versus my
  589. 14:54three-four-hour thing is because they
  590. 14:56take a long time and it could be like
  591. 14:58I'll invite up to eight parents.
  592. 14:59>> Uh-huh.
  593. 15:00>> But that might be my own problem. But
  594. 15:02cuz that could drag that that could drag
  595. 15:03this on like
  596. 15:04>> Oh that's cuz you're doing like Zoom
  597. 15:05calls. Not like and you're getting 10%
  598. 15:08of those people to buy?
  599. 15:09>> 10% that come live buy but every time
  600. 15:12>> That's insane.
  601. 15:13>> Even outside the replay for the
  602. 15:15three-four-hour thing, if someone
  603. 15:17watches it and they can truly afford it
  604. 15:18>> Yeah.
  605. 15:19>> they'll they'll reach out to my in my
  606. 15:20DMs and be like can I buy? Can I get it
  607. 15:22now?
  608. 15:22>> Yeah.
  609. 15:23>> So this is how I'm converting them.
  610. 15:24>> Yeah, we just need to basically your
  611. 15:26delivery needs to become your content
  612. 15:28and your pitches need to be your
  613. 15:29pitches. You're kind of like muddling
  614. 15:30the two.
  615. 15:31>> [laughter]
  616. 15:32>> Right?
  617. 15:32>> Yeah.
  618. 15:32>> Just sell when you need to sell, deliver
  619. 15:34when you need to deliver.
  620. 15:35And all that delivery stuff, that
  621. 15:37becomes content which I'll get to in a
  622. 15:38second when we get to traffic.
  623. 15:39>> Okay.
  624. 15:39>> Okay?
  625. 15:39>> Okay.
  626. 15:40>> How does this feel?
  627. 15:41>> Um this 3,000 one
  628. 15:42>> to have a reason for them to check out
  629. 15:43rather than having to DM you.
  630. 15:45>> Oh.
  631. 15:47>> If you want to have a call with me,
  632. 15:48it'll be $3,000. I just add 500 bucks
  633. 15:49cuz it it cost my time.
  634. 15:51>> So so okay, so when they're checking out
  635. 15:53they have these two options. They can
  636. 15:54either do
  637. 15:55>> you can just check out now and if you
  638. 15:56want to talk to me
  639. 15:57>> Mhm.
  640. 15:58>> then it's $3,000. It's an extra 500
  641. 15:59bucks and that's just because it's going
  642. 16:01to take my time.
  643. 16:01>> Oh, extra $500. Okay, got it.
  644. 16:03>> I know this because everyone's and I
  645. 16:04would just just state the fact and tell
  646. 16:05the truth. Like I can't physically talk
  647. 16:07to everyone and this is why you need
  648. 16:08more people on those calls. That's why
  649. 16:09it's like you're doing eight people at a
  650. 16:10time. It's just a waste. Like let's get
  651. 16:1250 people or 100 people on the call.
  652. 16:13>> Yeah.
  653. 16:14>> Have a structured webinar, answer all
  654. 16:15the questions, make this offer, more
  655. 16:17people will be willing to buy and then
  656. 16:18it's like if you were not sure
  657. 16:20>> If you're not sure and you want to talk
  658. 16:21to me then
  659. 16:21>> yeah, go ahead.
  660. 16:22>> Okay. But what if it's like too many
  661. 16:24people or is that offer there cuz less
  662. 16:26people people won't
  663. 16:27>> the the goal is that more people don't
  664. 16:29want to pay the extra $500. Now if
  665. 16:31everyone is wants to pay this, then
  666. 16:32great. We raise our prices.
  667. 16:34>> [laughter]
  668. 16:35>> Cuz I'm like I don't want to do
  669. 16:36one-on-one
  670. 16:36>> No, great. Yeah, well but like that
  671. 16:38they're doing it now for you're doing it
  672. 16:39for free right now.
  673. 16:40>> Yeah.
  674. 16:40>> Right, so like let's at least get paid
  675. 16:41for it if you're going to do it but the
  676. 16:42goal is to incentivize people to do
  677. 16:43this.
  678. 16:44>> Got it.
  679. 16:44>> And again, we're selling biannually so
  680. 16:45automatically this whole thing is going
  681. 16:47to switch because they're going to have
  682. 16:49to opt out rather than opting in.
  683. 16:51>> Got it.
  684. 16:52>> Track?
  685. 16:52>> Yes.
  686. 16:53>> Okay.
  687. 16:53>> Yes.
  688. 16:54>> So on the conversion process, I think
  689. 16:56one of the big one of the big ones is
  690. 16:57husband slash it's mostly female buyers,
  691. 17:00husband's not there.
  692. 17:01So I would just say give a three-day no
  693. 17:03sweat
  694. 17:04uh guarantee.
  695. 17:05>> Okay.
  696. 17:06>> Which you're legally have to anyways. Uh
  697. 17:08so people get back out of a purchase
  698. 17:10which is that if someone changes their
  699. 17:11mind, they change their mind. Right? And
  700. 17:12so just say, "Hey, no worries. Buy it
  701. 17:14and if for some reason in the next three
  702. 17:15days you talk to your husband and he's
  703. 17:16like, I don't want our kid to get
  704. 17:17better. I want him to stay the same and
  705. 17:19get worse and like this be a problem
  706. 17:21forever." If he says that, no worries,
  707. 17:23just let me know refund you.
  708. 17:24>> Okay.
  709. 17:25>> All right, so that way it's like get in
  710. 17:26and then that way um what we want to do
  711. 17:29to counteract like potential refunds,
  712. 17:31which is not going to be high anyways,
  713. 17:32is you want to do your onboarding ASAP.
  714. 17:35So, as soon as someone buys,
  715. 17:36>> Mhm.
  716. 17:37>> do the onboarding like the next day cuz
  717. 17:39then the likelihood that they get cold
  718. 17:40feet goes down.
  719. 17:41>> Got it.
  720. 17:41>> Just give them value as fast as you
  721. 17:42[clears throat] can.
  722. 17:43>> Okay, give value as fast as you can.
  723. 17:44>> Cuz if they if they buy and then they
  724. 17:45get on board, the likelihood they refund
  725. 17:46is really low.
  726. 17:46>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
  727. 17:47>> so it's like let's just pull it forward.
  728. 17:49>> Got it, got it.
  729. 17:50>> Like they have 3 days to do it, but you
  730. 17:51can deliver ASAP. Right?
  731. 17:53>> So, on my live events currently, I'll
  732. 17:55have something like if you buy while
  733. 17:57you're on this call, there's a bonus.
  734. 17:59So, should I take that out or
  735. 18:01>> No, I mean you can do have a price goes
  736. 18:03up and there's a bonus. So, this is
  737. 18:04cheaper and you get more.
  738. 18:06>> Okay.
  739. 18:06>> Cool.
  740. 18:07>> Yeah.
  741. 18:07>> Now,
  742. 18:08uh you have this $150 a month thing
  743. 18:11for like one-on-one with your
  744. 18:13>> It's not with me, yeah. It's my
  745. 18:14membership.
  746. 18:15>> team.
  747. 18:15>> Yeah, with my coaching team.
  748. 18:16>> So, if you're going to do that, you need
  749. 18:18to make it like five times as expensive
  750. 18:20or get rid of it.
  751. 18:21>> Oh.
  752. 18:21>> It's not priced right.
  753. 18:23>> Okay.
  754. 18:23>> Yeah, cuz you have one-to-many and then
  755. 18:25it's like for twice the price you get
  756. 18:26one-on-one, basically. Right? So, it
  757. 18:28should be like five times the price.
  758. 18:29>> Mhm.
  759. 18:30>> [clears throat]
  760. 18:30>> So, it's like think like 8,000, 8,000,
  761. 18:3210,000 is what it would be if I wanted
  762. 18:33to have. People have the money.
  763. 18:36I promise, they do.
  764. 18:37And that money will allow you to scale
  765. 18:39it.
  766. 18:40>> [laughter]
  767. 18:42>> It just it it like one on it just it it
  768. 18:44the math doesn't math.
  769. 18:45>> Yeah, but it's not with me.
  770. 18:46>> No, I know.
  771. 18:47>> It's with my team.
  772. 18:47>> I know, it's it's it's it's not about
  773. 18:49>> But it's like it's like support.
  774. 18:51>> It's buying behavior.
  775. 18:52It's buying behavior. So, either include
  776. 18:54the like include your base level
  777. 18:55support, which is what you have without
  778. 18:56one-on-one.
  779. 18:57>> Yeah.
  780. 18:57>> And then if they want one-on-one, they
  781. 18:59have to pay for the one-on-one price.
  782. 19:01Many people everybody needs one-on-one,
  783. 19:02everything.
  784. 19:03>> [gasps]
  785. 19:03>> But it just doesn't mean that everyone
  786. 19:05can afford it. It's not worth it's
  787. 19:07You have a responsibility to the
  788. 19:08business.
  789. 19:09And the business has a responsibility to
  790. 19:10customers. But your responsibility is to
  791. 19:12make sure the business survives and
  792. 19:13grows.
  793. 19:14>> Mhm.
  794. 19:14>> And in order for the business to survive
  795. 19:15and grow, it has to take care of the
  796. 19:16customer. So it's a it's a it's a
  797. 19:18circle.
  798. 19:19Does that make sense?
  799. 19:19>> Yeah. Yeah.
  800. 19:20>> Okay. On the delivery part, so this is
  801. 19:22on delivery a little bit. Um
  802. 19:25you have this Telegram, right? That you
  803. 19:26use cohorts in Telegram.
  804. 19:28>> Mhm.
  805. 19:28>> You can Are you familiar with AI?
  806. 19:30>> Mhm.
  807. 19:30>> Okay. So what I would do is I'd vibe
  808. 19:32code um an agent that
  809. 19:36searches the whole Telegram
  810. 19:37>> Mhm.
  811. 19:38>> uh and looks for past responses that are
  812. 19:40similar to the question
  813. 19:41and then suggests it to you or your team
  814. 19:44and then you can check or exit and then
  815. 19:47it sends it.
  816. 19:48And that way you're going to
  817. 19:49dramatically increase the leverage that
  818. 19:50you have for each of your delivery
  819. 19:51people.
  820. 19:53>> So have the agent send it
  821. 19:55automatically?
  822. 19:56>> No, so basically you'll vibe code a
  823. 19:57dashboard.
  824. 19:58>> Yeah.
  825. 19:58>> They don't even have to be in Telegram.
  826. 19:59>> Yeah.
  827. 19:59>> Like your team.
  828. 20:00>> Yeah.
  829. 20:00>> They have a dashboard. And then people
  830. 20:02ask the questions so it's convenient for
  831. 20:03them. But you make it convenient for
  832. 20:04your team to have them all in one place
  833. 20:06where it already has suggested answers
  834. 20:07and they just reply or edit.
  835. 20:09Single way faster.
  836. 20:11>> Got it.
  837. 20:12Okay. I can do that. Yeah.
  838. 20:14>> How frequently are you running webinars?
  839. 20:16>> Once every every time there's a launch.
  840. 20:18So so that is
  841. 20:20>> So this is what I would consider doing.
  842. 20:21>> Yeah.
  843. 20:22>> Once a week hold a webinar
  844. 20:23>> Uh-huh.
  845. 20:24>> for all the people who DM you and say,
  846. 20:25"Hey, I'm doing a live thing with other
  847. 20:27parents that way you won't feel alone.
  848. 20:28Come attend." And then you can just do
  849. 20:30the structured webinar once a week and
  850. 20:32then mop up everyone that's been in your
  851. 20:34DMs
  852. 20:34>> Mhm.
  853. 20:35>> and just send reminders to them to show
  854. 20:36up. That way you don't have to go into
  855. 20:37all these long conversations cuz you're
  856. 20:38having the same conversation 100 times
  857. 20:40in a row.
  858. 20:40>> Yeah.
  859. 20:41>> Okay.
  860. 20:41>> Yeah.
  861. 20:42>> And then you still do your launches
  862. 20:43that's going to be the paid.
  863. 20:44But your your weekly webinar can be
  864. 20:45organic.
  865. 20:46>> Okay.
  866. 20:47>> That That feel okay?
  867. 20:48>> only only for the people that are DMing
  868. 20:49me or should I
  869. 20:50>> No, I would just no. Should I message
  870. 20:51the waitlist too?
  871. 20:53>> Um I would just do For me I'd rather
  872. 20:55just have all the people who are DMing
  873. 20:56you. I'd use my waitlist for the
  874. 20:57launches.
  875. 20:58>> Okay.
  876. 20:58>> Cuz it'll be like more razzle-dazzle.
  877. 21:00But you're just We're trying to account
  878. 21:01for like what happens in between. So big
  879. 21:03picture, we're changing from our 3-hour
  880. 21:053 to 4-hour marathon to a structured
  881. 21:06webinar.
  882. 21:07>> Okay. going to follow this structure.
  883. 21:09We can bring up the people live to do
  884. 21:10the proof for each of the points if you
  885. 21:11want to and that's only for your
  886. 21:13launches.
  887. 21:14We'll still use the same webinar. You
  888. 21:15don't have to have the live people. The
  889. 21:16upsell timing we're going to shift.
  890. 21:18Right? Because we won't even need to cuz
  891. 21:20we're going to we're going to be
  892. 21:21bi-annually here anyways. So
  893. 21:24this might not even be an issue.
  894. 21:25>> you don't think it matters whether it's
  895. 21:266 month or 12 month.
  896. 21:28>> Conversions say that I know.
  897. 21:29>> Okay.
  898. 21:30>> say.
  899. 21:30>> Cuz I thought it was like oh you get a
  900. 21:31year might be
  901. 21:33>> Let me say it differently.
  902. 21:34Do you want to have your tooth pulled
  903. 21:35out in 5 minutes or 5 hours?
  904. 21:38If you can fix your fix my kid in half
  905. 21:39the time, fix my kid in half the time.
  906. 21:41>> Yeah.
  907. 21:41>> The bi-annual is still happening on a 6
  908. 21:43month basis anyway. So that's automatic.
  909. 21:45I still want to have a conversion like
  910. 21:47push and reminder cuz I don't want to
  911. 21:49bug people without them knowing. That's
  912. 21:50not the goal.
  913. 21:51>> Yeah.
  914. 21:51>> But we want to have like it's like we
  915. 21:53want to get the legal right to do it
  916. 21:54here, but we want to have the
  917. 21:55psychological right from here.
  918. 21:56>> Got it.
  919. 21:57>> track?
  920. 21:57>> Got it.
  921. 21:57>> Okay.
  922. 21:58Uh we're doing this pricing so that we
  923. 22:00get more people to not DM you and buy
  924. 22:02immediately. So it'll be a cheaper price
  925. 22:03and a bonus if they buy on and if they
  926. 22:06buy from you one-on-one and you're like
  927. 22:07you don't get the bonus and it costs
  928. 22:09more. Now if you're on the call you can
  929. 22:10be like hey I'm not supposed to do this
  930. 22:11but I'll give you the the bonus if they
  931. 22:12if they ask for it.
  932. 22:13>> Mhm. Got it.
  933. 22:13>> We're going to vibe code delivery so you
  934. 22:14get way more leverage from your team.
  935. 22:17That's all good?
  936. 22:17>> Mhm.
  937. 22:17>> Okay.
  938. 22:19And we're going to include this little
  939. 22:20no sweat on the pitch and we're going to
  940. 22:21add our FAQs in. That's all conversion
  941. 22:23stuff. Okay.
  942. 22:25Once we have all this, now we have an
  943. 22:26offer that's already renewing. We're
  944. 22:28renewing at the right point. We have a
  945. 22:29structured conversion process delivery.
  946. 22:30You got more leverage. We have our FAQs
  947. 22:32covered and we have guarantees so we can
  948. 22:34deal with the spouse issue. Now we just
  949. 22:36need a more traffic. Okay?
  950. 22:37So this is what I want to do.
  951. 22:39So how many
  952. 22:42So you have like 200 plus testimonials
  953. 22:44that you've already captured which is
  954. 22:45great.
  955. 22:46>> There's like 200 I haven't even posted.
  956. 22:47>> Yeah. Yeah. So you have post those. Um
  957. 22:51how much Q&A is there in your delivery?
  958. 22:54>> A lot.
  959. 22:55>> Okay.
  960. 22:55>> And they're the same questions every
  961. 22:57cohort.
  962. 22:57>> That's great. So um you're familiar with
  963. 23:00Dave Ramsey?
  964. 23:00>> Yes.
  965. 23:01>> Yes. Yes.
  966. 23:02>> He people on and they say I should
  967. 23:04probably spend less than I'm than I'm
  968. 23:06spending and I should save more money
  969. 23:07and he says that's a great idea.
  970. 23:09If you did it for 45 years.
  971. 23:10And so even though it's the same
  972. 23:12question for you
  973. 23:13the audience will not perceive it as the
  974. 23:14same question.
  975. 23:15And so I want you to take those Q&As and
  976. 23:19you can probably have an AI editor just
  977. 23:23cut it down. Worst case you can have an
  978. 23:24offshore editor do it cuz it's a very
  979. 23:26repeatable cutting process.
  980. 23:28And I'd love you how many how many How
  981. 23:30many Q&As would you say you do per week?
  982. 23:31When I say I don't mean sessions, I mean
  983. 23:33actual questions that you're answering.
  984. 23:35>> Actual questions like on the live calls?
  985. 23:37>> Yeah.
  986. 23:37>> Probably between 30 to 50.
  987. 23:39>> Okay.
  988. 23:40>> Yeah.
  989. 23:40>> So
  990. 23:41to me
  991. 23:42that means you get 30 to 50 posts a
  992. 23:44week.
  993. 23:48Just by capturing and editing them. So
  994. 23:50that all of a sudden
  995. 23:50>> So So it doesn't matter like what we do
  996. 23:52in the program is like being shown out.
  997. 23:54Doesn't matter.
  998. 23:55>> No, cuz it's going to be so it's going
  999. 23:56to be bite-sized. You also have
  1000. 23:58questions that are coming in from
  1001. 23:59Telegram, right? And all those
  1002. 24:00questions.
  1003. 24:01>> Yes.
  1004. 24:01>> So the ones that get like uploaded or
  1005. 24:03have a lot of like engagement around it,
  1006. 24:05I would do green screen answers.
  1007. 24:07>> What does that mean?
  1008. 24:09>> So you pull the question behind you
  1009. 24:11>> Okay.
  1010. 24:11>> and you just talk about the question.
  1011. 24:13>> Okay.
  1012. 24:13>> You've probably seen reaction videos.
  1013. 24:15>> Okay.
  1014. 24:15>> You just react to the question.
  1015. 24:16>> Okay.
  1016. 24:16>> This is a question I you know like So
  1017. 24:18and you can have an AI voice read it and
  1018. 24:19then you respond or you can read it and
  1019. 24:21respond. Either way it's fine.
  1020. 24:22>> Okay.
  1021. 24:23>> That's right.
  1022. 24:23>> Yeah.
  1023. 24:24>> Just don't start with a lot of people
  1024. 24:25have been asking me this question.
  1025. 24:26That's a terrible hook.
  1026. 24:27>> Okay, don't start [laughter] with that.
  1027. 24:28Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.
  1028. 24:29Got it.
  1029. 24:29>> Okay. Um when you go on these other
  1030. 24:31platforms, if Instagram is where you're
  1031. 24:33used to converting everyone, push people
  1032. 24:35from those platforms to Instagram.
  1033. 24:37So if you do YouTube shorts, your
  1034. 24:39description should say DM me on
  1035. 24:40Instagram.
  1036. 24:41>> Okay.
  1037. 24:42>> If people are on TikTok, have your bio
  1038. 24:44say DM me on Instagram. That way we can
  1039. 24:46just funnel everything to one conversion
  1040. 24:47point. And then that pushes people to
  1041. 24:49webinar.
  1042. 24:49>> Got it.
  1043. 24:50>> Okay.
  1044. 24:51Now we should probably post the 200
  1045. 24:53testimonials.
  1046. 24:57>> But I really want to edit all of them.
  1047. 24:58>> Well, you for all of this you need to
  1048. 25:01get editing.
  1049. 25:01>> Yeah.
  1050. 25:02>> You have the profit.
  1051. 25:03>> Yeah.
  1052. 25:03>> You have the profit to do it and that's
  1053. 25:04not going to cost a lot of money. Now,
  1054. 25:06on
  1055. 25:09the ad side,
  1056. 25:10these content
  1057. 25:14become ads.
  1058. 25:16Because if we're if you're if you're
  1059. 25:18capturing
  1060. 25:1930 to 40 posts plus your green screens,
  1061. 25:23we're talking three, four, five posts a
  1062. 25:25day. That's per platform. So all of a
  1063. 25:27sudden you're going to like 20, 30 posts
  1064. 25:28a day per platform. You're going to be
  1065. 25:29all over the place. Then take the
  1066. 25:30winners from there and run them as ads
  1067. 25:33to your thing.
  1068. 25:34>> To the webinar.
  1069. 25:35>> To your launch.
  1070. 25:36>> Yeah.
  1071. 25:36>> To the wait list or the webinar?
  1072. 25:38Depending
  1073. 25:38>> Well, you have you're used to do the
  1074. 25:39launches I think we do with the ads cuz
  1075. 25:40you're used to doing that and that's
  1076. 25:42fine.
  1077. 25:42Um
  1078. 25:43this I just want to do fourth organic
  1079. 25:45for now.
  1080. 25:45>> Okay.
  1081. 25:46>> Just so it Now, if all of a sudden we we
  1082. 25:47find out like maybe this just turns into
  1083. 25:49a better cycle where you just run ads
  1084. 25:50every week to a webinar that you do once
  1085. 25:52a week, I'm fine with it.
  1086. 25:54>> Okay.
  1087. 25:55>> But this is your ad strategy.
  1088. 25:57>> Okay. So then this goes into the wait
  1089. 25:59list.
  1090. 25:59>> Mhm.
  1091. 26:00>> Okay.
  1092. 26:01Okay.
  1093. 26:01>> Uh what we found work is having like a
  1094. 26:033-second delay
  1095. 26:06on the banner. So if you have like a CTA
  1096. 26:08um that's like, "Hey, register for
  1097. 26:11my next whatever, my launch." Wouldn't
  1098. 26:13say that, but my my thing. Um
  1099. 26:16just delay the the button by like 3
  1100. 26:18seconds. Like the banner on the on the
  1101. 26:20video.
  1102. 26:21>> At the end.
  1103. 26:22>> So if it the hook starts 3 seconds, then
  1104. 26:24put your CTA in and then it can stay
  1105. 26:26there.
  1106. 26:26>> Okay.
  1107. 26:27>> We just found that it gets it's higher
  1108. 26:28quality traffic.
  1109. 26:29>> Okay.
  1110. 26:29>> Just a little tactic.
  1111. 26:30>> Okay.
  1112. 26:30>> How's this feel?
  1113. 26:31>> It feels good. But it's funny, it's not
  1114. 26:33what I expected. I was expecting like
  1115. 26:35higher setters.
  1116. 26:37>> No.
  1117. 26:38I don't even want you in the DMs.
  1118. 26:40Ideally.
  1119. 26:41>> I think you can get one one person to
  1120. 26:42really just point people over to Yeah.
  1121. 26:45>> You know, like, "Tina's doing this
  1122. 26:46thing." Da da da. Okay.
  1123. 26:47>> Yeah, you can also um hook up uh
  1124. 26:50AI now to just respond. So that's
  1125. 26:52already been linked up on Instagram. So
  1126. 26:53it can just respond right away.
  1127. 26:54>> that's one of the things when people DM
  1128. 26:56me, they're like, holy [ __ ] you're a
  1129. 26:57real person addressing actual prob- you
  1130. 27:00know, like I don't want that. Them to
  1131. 27:02feel I'm managing people's feelings
  1132. 27:04again.
  1133. 27:05>> Yeah.
  1134. 27:06I don't respond to everybody who DMs me.
  1135. 27:08>> That's true.
  1136. 27:09>> I don't think. And if I did, I wouldn't
  1137. 27:11be able to help a lot of business
  1138. 27:12owners.
  1139. 27:13I'd be DMing all day.
  1140. 27:15So.
  1141. 27:16>> That's true.
  1142. 27:16>> It's your call.
  1143. 27:17>> Yeah. I could have a human do it.
  1144. 27:19>> Yeah. But they probably would like I'd
  1145. 27:20rather them just like I'd rather them
  1146. 27:23push to you and get a fractionalized
  1147. 27:26version of you than a whole percentage
  1148. 27:28of somebody who's not.
  1149. 27:30>> Got it.
  1150. 27:31>> Cool?
  1151. 27:31>> Yeah.
  1152. 27:32>> I mean, this feels pretty
  1153. 27:32straightforward. We got a recurring
  1154. 27:34here. We need to structure the webinar.
  1155. 27:36We add these elements to the conversion
  1156. 27:38process. We expand delivery here, and
  1157. 27:40then we blow the [ __ ] door off the
  1158. 27:42the front end. Now, one thing I do want
  1159. 27:43to address is that I think you said
  1160. 27:46you're self-sabotaging or something like
  1161. 27:47that. You making more money
  1162. 27:50means that you are helping more
  1163. 27:51families.
  1164. 27:52And you can help all the families who
  1165. 27:54can't afford it with this.
  1166. 27:59I have helped a zillion more people
  1167. 28:01business owners who have not paid me
  1168. 28:03than the ones who have.
  1169. 28:03>> Yeah.
  1170. 28:04>> And that's fine. I want that. Like I can
  1171. 28:06never I could never possibly
  1172. 28:07>> Yeah.
  1173. 28:08>> Right?
  1174. 28:09So I think if you can just you have to
  1175. 28:10just separate out the if I charge it's
  1176. 28:13bad because I know that you also had
  1177. 28:14some resistance to raising the price.
  1178. 28:17>> Yeah. I'm I mean, like one of my biggest
  1179. 28:20fears and I feel silly even saying it is
  1180. 28:22like I don't want people to think I'm in
  1181. 28:24it for the money.
  1182. 28:26And that's like
  1183. 28:27>> is in it to make money. The business is.
  1184. 28:29You own the business.
  1185. 28:31You can be in it for whatever reason you
  1186. 28:33want. The business needs to make a
  1187. 28:34profit in order to grow.
  1188. 28:37And if you want to help more people, it
  1189. 28:38will like you can help more people and
  1190. 28:40make more money.
  1191. 28:41>> Mhm.
  1192. 28:41>> Rather than or.
  1193. 28:43Because um uh my friend Taki says this
  1194. 28:45great thing. He says, either you can be
  1195. 28:46a starving artist or you can be a
  1196. 28:47soulless corporation and I think that
  1197. 28:49the beauty's in the middle.
  1198. 28:50>> Yeah.
  1199. 28:51>> And so if we make all this stuff, we're
  1200. 28:54helping lots of people for free, but for
  1201. 28:55the percentage of people that want more
  1202. 28:57help
  1203. 28:58there's a there's a for purchase option.
  1204. 29:02>> Okay.
  1205. 29:02>> Joe?
  1206. 29:03>> Yeah. Okay.
  1207. 29:04>> All right?
  1208. 29:04>> Yeah.
  1209. 29:06Easy.
  1210. 29:07>> Easy.
  1211. 29:07>> Easy.
  1212. 29:07>> Easy. Okay.
  1213. 29:09>> All right.
  1214. 29:10Doable.
  1215. 29:11>> All right, doable. We did it. [music]
  1216. 29:13>> Hey Alex, I've got some updates. I've
  1217. 29:15been working hard implementing on all of
  1218. 29:17the directives and Alex tasked me with
  1219. 29:20creating a structured webinar and that
  1220. 29:23was the first thing I did. If it wasn't
  1221. 29:24for this show, if it wasn't for what
  1222. 29:26we're doing here, I don't think I would
  1223. 29:28have finished the webinar. It was so
  1224. 29:30painful and I have to say even though it
  1225. 29:32was really painful, it is finally
  1226. 29:34working. Like surprise surprise.
  1227. 29:37>> [laughter]
  1228. 29:37>> The times I'm spending in DMs have
  1229. 29:39significantly decreased. I was spending
  1230. 29:41about 30 hours a week just handholding
  1231. 29:44every person that comes through. It was
  1232. 29:46a lot of work. I've since created a new
  1233. 29:48structure where I'm in there for maybe
  1234. 29:50three to five hours a week instead, so
  1235. 29:53significantly reduced by 90%. Uh I've
  1236. 29:56created a structure where my team can
  1237. 29:58also help me as well [music] to ask some
  1238. 30:00of the initial questions and we just
  1239. 30:02direct everyone to the webinar.
  1240. 30:04>> [music]
  1241. 30:08>> All right, let's see where you're at on
  1242. 30:09the scaling roadmap.
  1243. 30:10All right, let's see where you at. So
  1244. 30:12you're at How many employees you have?
  1245. 30:15>> Uh not including the coaches, seven.
  1246. 30:18Including the coaches, uh 12.
  1247. 30:21>> Okay, so you're probably between these
  1248. 30:22two steps. So team five to nine and 10
  1249. 30:24to 19 in terms of prioritizing and
  1250. 30:27productizing.
  1251. 30:27>> Okay.
  1252. 30:28>> All right. So we'll probably have a
  1253. 30:29little bit of a mix here.
  1254. 30:31So if we're looking at product, you said
  1255. 30:32yes to anyone who would pay.
  1256. 30:34>> Yes.
  1257. 30:35>> Right.
  1258. 30:35>> [laughter]
  1259. 30:36>> And you're getting feedback from lots of
  1260. 30:37different people.
  1261. 30:37>> Yes.
  1262. 30:38>> And so we need to be a little bit more
  1263. 30:39specific about our product and you
  1264. 30:41already did cut one of them, right? You
  1265. 30:43had the picky eaters in the in the in
  1266. 30:44the the high mama.
  1267. 30:45>> Yeah.
  1268. 30:46>> We already We already made that
  1269. 30:47selection, right? So, you're you're
  1270. 30:49partially graduated from here. From an
  1271. 30:51unqualified lease perspective, you're
  1272. 30:52like, "Well, I want to help everyone."
  1273. 30:53That's what we make the content for.
  1274. 30:54>> And I got rid of all my lower payment
  1275. 30:56plans. I had a 12-month and an 8-month.
  1276. 30:58>> for us. I love this for us. All right.
  1277. 30:59And then same thing, we got rid of the
  1278. 31:00one-on-one.
  1279. 31:01>> Yeah.
  1280. 31:01>> Or we're pricing it way higher. Those
  1281. 31:03are options.
  1282. 31:03>> Okay.
  1283. 31:04>> Okay? Now, from a sales perspective,
  1284. 31:06this You have decent tracking.
  1285. 31:09But I think we might be looking over
  1286. 31:10here cuz now you're at this level. We
  1287. 31:12need to create sales aids and materials.
  1288. 31:15Webinar.
  1289. 31:15>> Yes. [laughter]
  1290. 31:16>> Right? Install weekly game tape between
  1291. 31:18CS, sales, and marketing. Basically
  1292. 31:19making sure that Well, your process This
  1293. 31:21happens more when you have a sales team.
  1294. 31:22So, you don't have to worry about that
  1295. 31:23as much.
  1296. 31:23>> Okay.
  1297. 31:24>> And the refund rate stuff, we're going
  1298. 31:25to make sure that we're going to onboard
  1299. 31:26a little sooner. That way, we don't have
  1300. 31:28to worry about that. All right. So, that
  1301. 31:29feels like this is about the the the
  1302. 31:30right thing. Spend more on niche-down
  1303. 31:32messaging. That's all these little
  1304. 31:34videos that we're talking about, which
  1305. 31:35then turns into ads.
  1306. 31:36>> Mhm.
  1307. 31:37>> So, that's what we're doing on the on
  1308. 31:38the marketing side.
  1309. 31:39>> Okay.
  1310. 31:39>> And [clears throat] we don't need to
  1311. 31:40worry about this one for now. And then
  1312. 31:43uh build proper CS playbook to onboard
  1313. 31:44and train team answers.
  1314. 31:47It's going to review all the past ones,
  1315. 31:48make suggestions, and they can just
  1316. 31:50approve.
  1317. 31:50>> Got it.
  1318. 31:52>> Does these feel like your problems?
  1319. 31:53>> Yeah. Yes.
  1320. 31:54>> Yes.
  1321. 31:55>> [laughter]
  1322. 31:55>> If you're If you're watching from home,
  1323. 31:57you can fill out the form and it'll tell
  1324. 31:59you where you're at and gives tons of
  1325. 32:00videos for every one of these things in
  1326. 32:01a lot more detail. And it's free, so go
  1327. 32:03grab it.
  1328. 32:03>> I think Tina could scale the most
  1329. 32:05[music] out of everybody. Tina's
  1330. 32:06personality and the nature of her
  1331. 32:08business cuz
  1332. 32:09>> [music]
  1333. 32:09>> she literally solves problems.
  1334. 32:11>> If she continues to be led by her heart
  1335. 32:13and combines that with data, then
  1336. 32:15there'll be nothing [music] stopping her
  1337. 32:16whatsoever.
  1338. 32:16>> I'm like the queen of execution. Like
  1339. 32:18you watch me, the next 90 days like
  1340. 32:21>> Pressure's on.
  1341. 32:22>> Oh my gosh.
  1342. 32:26>> [music]
  1343. 32:29>> All right.
  1344. 32:32I hate this part. Um
  1345. 32:36So, I have to decide whether you scale
  1346. 32:37fail because that's what makes this
  1347. 32:38interesting. Um
  1348. 32:41before I tell you the answer,
  1349. 32:42>> Yeah.
  1350. 32:43>> um I want to say that
  1351. 32:45I think
  1352. 32:46this is a very right down the middle
  1353. 32:49will work.
  1354. 32:51The only fear I have is
  1355. 32:53the emotional side of it for you
  1356. 32:55>> Yeah.
  1357. 32:56>> of whether or not
  1358. 32:57you will actually be able to pull
  1359. 32:59yourself out because it is like you said
  1360. 33:01at the very beginning, it's a decision.
  1361. 33:03You said you have a decision to scale
  1362. 33:05>> Mhm.
  1363. 33:05>> which means you have to also have a
  1364. 33:06decision, which is that I'm not going to
  1365. 33:08answer every individual DM because I'm
  1366. 33:10going to take a local cost to have a
  1367. 33:12global [music] benefit.
  1368. 33:14And so, it's the same reason that, you
  1369. 33:16know, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, or Bezos
  1370. 33:18can't respond every customer service
  1371. 33:19request on on Amazon or Tesla or Apple.
  1372. 33:22It's because they wanted to help more
  1373. 33:23people.
  1374. 33:24Um that is probably [music] my biggest
  1375. 33:26fear around the scaling it. The
  1376. 33:27mechanics of this are really
  1377. 33:28straightforward and I think that because
  1378. 33:30of your affiliate background, you can do
  1379. 33:31it.
  1380. 33:32And so, I'm very torn on this one
  1381. 33:34because
  1382. 33:35I just don't know enough about the soft
  1383. 33:37side of Tina of whether or not
  1384. 33:39>> Yeah.
  1385. 33:39>> you can draw the line.
  1386. 33:40Um
  1387. 33:49How big do you want this to be?
  1388. 33:51>> Mhm.
  1389. 33:52Honestly?
  1390. 33:53>> Give me a year. 12 months.
  1391. 33:55>> In this 12 months?
  1392. 33:56>> Mhm.
  1393. 33:57>> 500 new clients. [music]
  1394. 34:03And I have plans to do certifications
  1395. 34:06[music]
  1396. 34:06and more people. No, no, no.
  1397. 34:09Really?
  1398. 34:14>> [sighs]
  1399. 34:14>> God, I hate this. Um
  1400. 34:16>> I can execute. [music]
  1401. 34:17>> No.
  1402. 34:19Will you actually just do this and not
  1403. 34:21do anything else?
  1404. 34:22>> Yes.
  1405. 34:24>> All right.
  1406. 34:25Then you have scaled and you will be
  1407. 34:26scaling. All right, you'll move on to
  1408. 34:28the next round. Rock and roll.
  1409. 34:29>> Okay.
  1410. 34:30>> Okay.
  1411. 34:31>> [laughter]
  1412. 34:31>> Oh my god,
  1413. 34:33it's a
  1414. 34:35>> Okay.
  1415. 34:35>> No, I can do it. I can do it. I Yeah.
  1416. 34:38>> Yeah.
  1417. 34:38>> You got it.
  1418. 34:39>> Thank you.
  1419. 34:39>> Little Ceasar.
  1420. 34:40>> All right.
  1421. 34:41Thank you.
  1422. 34:42>> You got to do this though.
  1423. 34:43>> I will.
  1424. 34:43>> Okay.
  1425. 34:44>> I will. [laughter] So, I'm going to kill
  1426. 34:46it. I'm going to crush it. And even I
  1427. 34:48was kind of offended when he was like, I
  1428. 34:49don't know if like you can separate the
  1429. 34:51emotions from it. And I was like, dude,
  1430. 34:54>> [laughter]
  1431. 34:55>> you have no idea. I can kill it.
  1432. 34:58It's done. It's in the bag.
  1433. 35:05>> It was a really tough one.
  1434. 35:07Um,
  1435. 35:07I think the big thing was that she had
  1436. 35:10done affiliate marketing in the past.
  1437. 35:12And so, I didn't think
  1438. 35:13she was going to get tripped up on the
  1439. 35:15technical stuff, which sometimes when
  1440. 35:17you're a smaller business, that can trip
  1441. 35:18you up. And so, I think she has skills
  1442. 35:21that will allow her to actually execute
  1443. 35:22this.
  1444. 35:23The big fear that I have is what I said
  1445. 35:24originally, which is like, I'm not sure
  1446. 35:26if she's going to emotionally be able to
  1447. 35:27do it. I was really torn on this one.
  1448. 35:30But, I'm I'm basically just going to
  1449. 35:31give her the benefit of the doubt of
  1450. 35:32like, will she execute this? And I'm
  1451. 35:34hoping that her global
  1452. 35:36need or desire to help people outweighs
  1453. 35:38her local need to
  1454. 35:41satisfy every person who messages her.
  1455. 35:43>> I was like really surprised at like how
  1456. 35:45kind he was. Not to say that he's not
  1457. 35:46kind, but like he just his demeanor,
  1458. 35:50it was really shocking. I thought I
  1459. 35:51would have been a lot more nervous, but
  1460. 35:53he was just so kind. And I just like it
  1461. 35:55really allowed me to relax as soon as I
  1462. 35:57just started talking.
  1463. 35:59>> All right. And so, that was this episode
  1464. 36:00of Scale or Fail. Stay tuned for the
  1465. 36:01next one as they all compete for
  1466. 36:03$100,000 and a year of working on
  1467. 36:06scaling.

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