If I Had to Get My Brand Cited by AI, I'd Build This Grok Bot — Transcript
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- 0:00I searched AppSumo for AEO. Zero
- 0:02results. Meanwhile, over 30
- 0:04venture-backed AEO tools have over 200
- 0:07million in funding spread between them.
- 0:09Profound alone has over 58 million in
- 0:11funding from Sequoia and Kleiner
- 0:12Perkins. I scraped AppSumo directly and
- 0:15classic SEO tools have customer reviews
- 0:17in the range of at least 130 all the way
- 0:20up to over 950. When I look at AI search
- 0:22platforms on AppSumo, [music] the number
- 0:24of customer reviews falls in the range
- 0:25of 32 to 49. Now, lifetime buyers can be
- 0:28very practical when they find a software
- 0:30that they really like, and it makes
- 0:31sense. They focus on getting the most
- 0:33value that they can. So, instead of
- 0:34trying to buy the answer, I decided to
- 0:36build it instead. I'm going to show you
- 0:38my seven-bot rock bot system. [music]
- 0:41Talk about a handful. Now, this system
- 0:42is strategically designed to get you
- 0:44cited by ChatGPT. I'll share the cost to
- 0:46run it and, of course, any key findings.
- 0:47[music]
- 0:48Now, the reality is most of you should
- 0:49probably stop watching and maybe focus
- 0:51on fixing your product instead. However,
- 0:53let me give you context as to why you
- 0:55should listen to me and not the guy
- 0:56trying to sell you a $99 dashboard. Now,
- 0:58of course, before I built anything, I
- 1:00did a pretty comprehensive research
- 1:01pass. [music] I used Firecrawl for
- 1:03indexing sources. I used Appify for
- 1:05analyzing Reddit commentaries. This
- 1:07resulted in analyzing over 142 different
- 1:10posts and 14 different subreddits. We
- 1:12also analyzed every major vendor study
- 1:14that's been released in the last few
- 1:15years. [music]
- 1:16We also analyzed Profound's 680 million
- 1:19citation data set, Peaks AI 30 million
- 1:21sources,
- 1:22>> [music]
- 1:22>> Conductor's 238,212
- 1:25different prompts, Umbrellas 120,000
- 1:28mentions across five different
- 1:30verticals. And if that wasn't enough, I
- 1:32also scraped AppSumo's marketplace
- 1:34myself, which nobody else had done
- 1:36previously. But, here's my contrarian
- 1:37take and warning. It's probably going to
- 1:40annoy people who sell AEO services. The
- 1:42dashboard is not the work. You see, this
- 1:45entire category isn't failing because
- 1:47the products are bad. It's failing
- 1:49because the very thing they measure gets
- 1:51fixed by product quality, review volume,
- 1:54and PR. And none of that is a software
- 1:57feature. So, a tracker hands you a
- 1:59percentage that you cannot act on. What
- 2:01I'm about to build and show you does not
- 2:04tracked. It does the work. Now, with all
- 2:06of that being said, let's get into it.
- 2:08The first thing you need to realize is
- 2:10that you can't build agents against
- 2:12[music] a strategy you don't have. So,
- 2:14three findings fast and then we build.
- 2:16Finding number one, mentions beat
- 2:19backlinks by about 3x. Ahrefs studied
- 2:2275,000 different brands. Branded web
- 2:25mentions correlate with 0.664
- 2:28with AI overview visibility. Backlinks
- 2:30correlate at 0.218. That's the That's
- 2:33the whole structural shift in one
- 2:35number. [music] Classic SEO is going to
- 2:37reward what's on your domain. AI answers
- 2:40is going to reward what the rest of the
- 2:41internet thinks about you. A commenter
- 2:44in the Reddit AEO thread put it better
- 2:46than any vendor blog I've ever read.
- 2:48Rankings reward your own domain. The AI
- 2:51answers reward what everyone else says
- 2:53about you.
- 2:54>> [music]
- 2:55>> So, the work shifts off your own site,
- 2:57which means the agents I build cannot
- 2:59just optimize pages on your site. They
- 3:01have to go find and shape the
- 3:03third-party testimony. Finding number
- 3:05two,
- 3:06reviews are a gate, not a gradient. Now,
- 3:08this is the one that reframed everything
- 3:10for me. From SOCi's 2026 Local
- 3:13Visibility Index, AI platforms use
- 3:16reviews as a confidence threshold, not a
- 3:19ranking gradient. Businesses that get
- 3:21recommended average 4.3 stars on
- 3:24ChatGPT,
- 3:254.1 on Perplexity, and 3.9 [music] on
- 3:28Gemini. And locations near 3.4 stars
- 3:32with [music] sub-5% review response
- 3:34rates are effectively invisible in
- 3:37AI-generated local recommendations. Not
- 3:40ranked lower, they're excluded entirely.
- 3:43Google's local [music] three-pack will
- 3:45recommend 35.9%
- 3:47of locations. ChatGPT will recommend
- 3:501.2. AI is roughly 30 times more
- 3:54selective and [music] fewer than half
- 3:56the brands winning traditional local
- 3:58search show up in AI recommendations at
- 4:01all. Or in other words, your rankings
- 4:04are not transferable. So, if you're
- 4:06sitting below 4.0 with a bad response
- 4:09rate, [music] close this video right
- 4:11now. No agent I build is going to fix
- 4:13that.
- 4:15Only better services do. I'd rather tell
- 4:17you that honestly up front before you
- 4:19spend the time to watch the rest of this
- 4:21video. Finding number three, volume
- 4:23beats perfection. Uberall ran five
- 4:26studies across five verticals, [music]
- 4:27five frontier models, and 120,000 plus
- 4:31mentions. Review volume predicts AI
- 4:34mentions better than star rating in most
- 4:36categories. A practice with 1,500
- 4:38reviews at 4.4 is going to beat one with
- 4:4220 reviews at 4.7. And here's the single
- 4:45biggest measured lift in that entire
- 4:47data set. Restaurants on zero review
- 4:49platforms beyond Google saw a 51.2%
- 4:53mention rate. At four platforms, that's
- 4:5589.6. Now, one more from a subreddit
- 4:58thread called the local SEO. A pizzeria
- 5:01>> [music]
- 5:01>> with 4.7 stars, thousands of ratings,
- 5:04ranked number two in the Google map
- 5:06pack, completely ignored by every LLM
- 5:09for the term best pizza near me. So, the
- 5:13competitor that's going to win has lower
- 5:15reviews and lower ratings. The
- 5:17difference is difference is that the
- 5:19client's reviews say great [music]
- 5:21pizza. The competitor's reviews are
- 5:23paragraphs about the wood-fired crust
- 5:26and the staff. [music] What does this
- 5:27mean? You see, a star rating is nothing
- 5:30except a number. A model is going to
- 5:32need evidence that it can quote. Detail,
- 5:34volume, spread, response. Those four
- 5:37things alone are the job entirely. Now,
- 5:39>> [music]
- 5:40>> watch me as I hand them to seven
- 5:41different GrokBot agents. Now, one quick
- 5:44note on the tool and then we're going to
- 5:45build. I [music] picked Rockbot for
- 5:47three reasons, and none of them are that
- 5:50it's the smartest model. One, every bot
- 5:52gets its own cloud [music] computer.
- 5:54That matters here more than almost any
- 5:56other use case because this work is all
- 5:59third-party platforms, Yelp,
- 6:01Trustpilot's directories, and Reddit. I
- 6:04do not want one mega agent holding my
- 6:06logins to every platform I touch. Each
- 6:09bot logs into its own accounts on its
- 6:11own machine. Two, agent-to-agent
- 6:14delegation is on by default. This
- 6:16workflow has real hand-offs. Something
- 6:19finds a complaint, something else has to
- 6:21respond to it, and something else has to
- 6:23log it. Now, that is a team, not a
- 6:25prompt. Three distinct routines.
- 6:28Profound found that the average Reddit
- 6:30post cited by AI in 2025 was posted
- 6:33roughly a year earlier.
- 6:36>> [music]
- 6:37>> 4% date from 2019 or earlier. Old
- 6:40threads outlive the platforms that they
- 6:42describe. [music]
- 6:43So, this is not a one-time audit. You
- 6:45see, it has to run forever, which means
- 6:47it has to run without me. And right now,
- 6:50it's only $20 a month. Now, hold that
- 6:52number for now because I'm going to be
- 6:54comparing it to something else later in
- 6:56this video. Okay. Seven bots. [music]
- 6:59I'm going to give you the exact name,
- 7:01the job, the exact description I wrote,
- 7:03and the routine. Now, please, steal all
- 7:06of it. Bot number one,
- 7:07>> [music]
- 7:07>> Marlow, chief of staff. The first bot is
- 7:10the delegator. Everything runs through
- 7:12him, so I'm not scrolling [music] a
- 7:13sidebar of 12 agents trying to remember
- 7:16who does what. The description that I
- 7:18use, you are Marlow, chief of staff for
- 7:21an AI visibility operation. Before any
- 7:23task, check whether another bot owns it
- 7:26and delegate first. Only do the work
- 7:27yourself if no one specializes in it.
- 7:30Bring results back here. The mission is
- 7:32a single number. How often this brand
- 7:35gets cited across ChatGPT, Perplexity,
- 7:38Gemini, and Google AI overviews on a
- 7:41fixed prompt set. Every bot you manage
- 7:44exists to move that number. Give it a
- 7:46human name.
- 7:50It might sound silly. It is not. You
- 7:52will interact with a thing called
- 7:53Marlowe more than you will interact with
- 7:55a thing called Chief of Staff. And
- 7:57interaction is what makes these systems
- 7:58[music] get good. Bot two, Iris, the
- 8:01diagnostic. This is the cheapest
- 8:03high-value bot in the system. And most
- 8:06brands have literally never done what it
- 8:08does. Iris runs a fixed prompt set and
- 8:11that consists of 20 to 50 different
- 8:13queries, the same ones every time, split
- 8:15into three buckets, [music] and the
- 8:17split matters. The first prompt is
- 8:19branded prompts. What do people think
- 8:21about brand?
- 8:22>> [music]
- 8:22>> The next one is unbranded prompts. So,
- 8:25best insert category in insert city.
- 8:28[music] And then, comparison prompts,
- 8:30insert brand versus insert competitor.
- 8:32That split comes from a production data
- 8:34paper on arXiv tracking 102 different
- 8:38brands. And I'll be honest with you, I
- 8:40don't know if arXiv is how you actually
- 8:42pronounce that. So, [music] feel free to
- 8:44call me out on that one. Branded prompt
- 8:45recognition though is 94.2%
- 8:48on ChatGPT. Unbranded drops to 22.1%.
- 8:52You see, models know when you're named.
- 8:55They almost never volunteer you when
- 8:57you're not. And by prompt category, and
- 9:00that category is brutal. Comparison
- 9:02prompts surface brands at 74.6%
- 9:05of the time. Problem and solution
- 9:07prompts, 10.8%. The routine,
- 9:10every [music] 2 weeks, not daily. AI
- 9:12responses are non-deterministic.
- 9:15The same query produces different
- 9:17results 10 minutes apart.
- 9:20So, daily readings are nothing more than
- 9:21noise. Iris is responsible for logging
- 9:24raw counts and dates. This month, your
- 9:26brand appeared in 47 of 120 test [music]
- 9:29queries, up from 31. Now, that is honest
- 9:32reporting. The quote AI visibility
- 9:34increased 31.4%
- 9:36is nothing [music] more than theater,
- 9:38and any vendor showing you AI search
- 9:40volume or AI keyword difficulty invented
- 9:43those men
- 9:45invented those metrics. That is the
- 9:46whole diagnostic. 10 minutes of setup,
- 9:49and most brands have never even run it
- 9:51once. Bot three, Hollis.
- 9:54The crawl auditor. This is a boring bot,
- 9:56but it has the highest ROI hour [music]
- 9:58in the entire build. Cyrus Shepard's
- 10:00meta-analysis scored 23 factors across
- 10:0354 studies. [music] Number one was not
- 10:06content or links. It was URL
- 10:08accessibility. If the bot can't fetch
- 10:10and preview the page,
- 10:12>> [music]
- 10:12>> nothing else matters. Hollis is
- 10:14responsible for checking robots.txt
- 10:16files, CDN rules,
- 10:19and WAF [music] for CPT bot, chat, CPT
- 10:22user, quad bot, Perplexity bot, and
- 10:25Google [music] extended. Then, it reads
- 10:27server logs to confirm they're actually
- 10:29fetching. This is important because a
- 10:31permissive robots.txt file with a
- 10:34blocking WAF is the most common silent
- 10:37failure I found. Now, if you don't know
- 10:39what WAF stands for, that's okay. I
- 10:41didn't either.
- 10:43But, it means web application firewall,
- 10:45and Hollis is explicitly [music]
- 10:47instructed not to touch LLM text files.
- 10:50Ahrefs, the tool that I use, analyzed
- 10:52137,000
- 10:54different sites.
- 10:5697%
- 10:58of LLM text files received zero requests
- 11:01in a month. Zero AI bots went looking
- 11:04for files that didn't exist. Google's
- 11:06Google's very own documentation says
- 11:09they don't [music] use them. Shepard
- 11:10scored it 2.0 out of 10.
- 11:13Dead last of [music] 23 factors. You can
- 11:16publish one in 5 minutes if you want,
- 11:18but never put it on an invoice. Bot
- 11:20four, the listing accuracy bot. Synci
- 11:22found [music] business profile accuracy
- 11:24is 68% on ChatGPT and Perplexity versus
- 11:29100% on Gemini, [music]
- 11:31which is grounded directly in Google
- 11:33Maps. Their read is that this gap
- 11:36explains [music] most of why Gemini
- 11:39recommends local businesses nearly 10
- 11:42times more often. Inconsistency does not
- 11:44demote you. It simply makes the model
- 11:46lose confidence. Hours, addresses,
- 11:49phones, categories. Vera is going to
- 11:52check every surface weekly [music] and
- 11:54flag any drift. This alone is the
- 11:56cheapest category and almost nobody ever
- 11:59makes it. Bot five, Ansel, the review
- 12:02engine. This is the one that moves the
- 12:04gate. Three different jobs. Job one,
- 12:08response coverage. Response rate is an
- 12:10explicit signal in the SoCi data set.
- 12:12Ansel drafts a reply to every review,
- 12:14especially the bad ones. Then, it drops
- 12:17it into a queue for me. Most
- 12:19importantly, it never [music] sends. A
- 12:21public "We fixed this in Q4. Here's what
- 12:24changed." gives the model newer evidence
- 12:27to weigh against an old complaint. And
- 12:29remember, [music]
- 12:30cited posts average a year old. Job two,
- 12:33detail extraction. Ansel writes the
- 12:35review request prompt, not "Please leave
- 12:37us a review." It asks the customer to
- 12:40name what they [music] bought, where,
- 12:42and what specifically happened. That's
- 12:44the pizzeria lesson, and it's free. Job
- 12:46three,
- 12:47>> [music]
- 12:47>> platform spread. Ansel tracks which
- 12:49platforms have coverage and which ones
- 12:51don't. And it's going to drive toward
- 12:54forward beyond Google. Yelp [music] at
- 12:561,000 plus reviews hit a 93.3% mention
- 12:59rate for restaurants. Grocery at 500
- 13:02plus hit a whopping 100%. OpenAI
- 13:05licensed Yelp's [music] 330 million
- 13:07reviews in July of 2026, so that pipe is
- 13:11now direct. Bot six, Quill, [music]
- 13:14the crawlable proof bot. Now, here is
- 13:16the mechanism that most people miss
- 13:18entirely. While it might hurt to hear
- 13:19this, AI does not review your Google
- 13:22reviews. Star ratings in Maps data load
- 13:25via JavaScript and are largely invisible
- 13:27to AI crawlers. Reviews reach the models
- 13:30when they get quoted or referenced on
- 13:31crawlable third-party pages. So, Quill
- 13:34builds one page on your site. Ratings,
- 13:36dated review excerpts, plain HTML in the
- 13:39main content, not schema, not
- 13:42JavaScript. You see, if it isn't
- 13:43crawlable, it doesn't count. Quill's
- 13:45second job is comparison and alternative
- 13:48assets. Go back to that 74.6% versus
- 13:51[music] 10.8% number. If you have no X
- 13:54verse Y page and no alternatives to X
- 13:57page, you are absent from the single
- 13:59[music] prompt category that actually
- 14:01brands mention. Quill builds and
- 14:03maintains those. Format rules Quill
- 14:05follows. [music] Direct answer in the
- 14:07first 40 to 60 words under a clear
- 14:10heading. Comparison tables, real FAQ
- 14:12schema in the main body. SE ranking
- 14:15>> [music]
- 14:15>> found FAQ presence nearly doubles
- 14:18ChatGPT citation likelihood. And Q&A
- 14:21format hits a 55% perplexity top three
- 14:25rate against [music] a 31% baseline.
- 14:28Question-based titles had roughly seven
- 14:30X more impact for smaller domains than
- 14:33for big ones. Now, the last part is the
- 14:36tail.
- 14:41Structural lever Structural leverage is
- 14:44inversely proportional to domain [music]
- 14:46strength. Big brands get cited
- 14:47regardless. If you're small, format is
- 14:50your cheapest lever. And SE ranking
- 14:53found 85% of perplexity cited URLs had
- 14:57fewer than 50 backlinks. Bot seven.
- 15:00Sable,
- 15:01the sentiment watch. This is the last
- 15:03bot and the reason the whole system has
- 15:05to exist forever. Profound from over 4
- 15:08billion [music] tracked citations.
- 15:09Positive brand sentiment on Reddit is
- 15:11cited 5% of the time. Negative sentiment
- 15:14at 6.1%. Models are not filtering for
- 15:17constructive feedback. Complaints are
- 15:19going to surface at a slightly higher
- 15:21rate than complements from threads
- 15:24averaging a year old. Sable watches for
- 15:27new negative third-party threads and
- 15:29pings me within hours,
- 15:31>> [music]
- 15:31>> not weeks.
- 15:36>> [music]
- 15:38>> Because complaint you answer on day one
- 15:41is a different artifact than a complaint
- 15:44that sits for a year and then gets
- 15:45quoted back to your prospect by ChatGPT.
- 15:48And here is the line I hardcoded. Sable
- 15:51does not post. It simply surfaces and
- 15:53drafts. I always end up deciding because
- 15:56manufactured mentions are the fastest
- 15:58way to lose the channel that still pays
- 16:01your bills. Google's own guidance says
- 16:03seeking inauthentic mentions isn't as
- 16:06helpful as it might seem and that their
- 16:08spam systems intentionally block it. The
- 16:11risk is asymmetric. If it works, some
- 16:13modest lift on some engines. If it
- 16:15fails, you're in scaled content abuse
- 16:18territory on the engine driving most of
- 16:20your revenue. And even if you ignore the
- 16:22ethics, look at the channel stability.
- 16:25When Reddit sued Perplexity in October
- 16:272025, Perplexity's Reddit citation share
- 16:30dropped 86% almost immediately. Reddit's
- 16:33overall AI citation share fell 50%
- 16:36between October and January. A channel
- 16:39that can lose can lose 86% of its value
- 16:42in four days because of a lawsuit is a
- 16:45dependency, not a strategy. Seven bots,
- 16:48$20 [music] a month. For comparison, the
- 16:50most upvoted honest pricing breakdown I
- 16:52found in the subreddit [music] thread AI
- 16:54Search Lab puts content and technical
- 16:57AEO at $2,000 to $5,000 a month. Genuine
- 17:01digital PR at $5,000 to $12,000 and real
- 17:05monitoring at $2,000 [music] to $4,000.
- 17:08Now the honest part. Because you guys
- 17:10have been so generous giving me your
- 17:12time to watch this video, I'm not going
- 17:14to spend the last little bit of time in
- 17:15this video over selling anything. These
- 17:18agents handle crawlability, accuracy,
- 17:20response coverage, review detail,
- 17:23platform spread, crawlable proof,
- 17:25>> [music]
- 17:25>> comparison assets, and sentiment
- 17:27monitoring. That is a real amount of
- 17:29work, and it's an amount of work that at
- 17:31places I've worked that specialize in
- 17:33this very topic charge as much as
- 17:36$50,000 a month on retainer. But, what
- 17:39they will not do is lift you over a 4.0.
- 17:41One genuinely bad quarter of customer
- 17:44experience
- 17:45drops you below the threshold that
- 17:47decides whether you're eligible to be
- 17:49recommended at all. No amount of
- 17:51optimization will ever bring you back
- 17:53over it. So, the way I look at it is you
- 17:55can either spend $20 a month or as much
- 17:57as $50,000 a month, and it will not
- 18:00matter. Stated in the caveats on my own
- 18:02research, stated plainly, most of this
- 18:04is local business data. So See and
- 18:07Uberall study multi-location brands, so
- 18:09the threshold effect is best evidenced
- 18:11there. And B2B SaaS almost certainly
- 18:15behaves differently. Now, everything I
- 18:17quoted is correlation, not causation. No
- 18:20engine has confirmed a cutoff. And
- 18:21nearly every study in this space is
- 18:24vendor funded, including the ones I
- 18:27used. The AppSumo scrape is the
- 18:29exception, and it's a proxy for sales,
- 18:32not sales data. So, here's what I
- 18:34learned. Everyone is selling a
- 18:36measurement of a thing that you
- 18:38ultimately fix with your own work. The
- 18:4033 tool category isn't failing because
- 18:43their founders are bad. It's failing
- 18:45because the whole space is selling you a
- 18:47measurement of something [music] you fix
- 18:50with product quality, customer
- 18:52experience, and PR. And perhaps what I
- 18:54find most interesting is that the
- 18:56AppSumo is that the AppSumo customer
- 18:58figured this out before venture [music]
- 19:00capital did. You see, venture capital is
- 19:02far removed from the day-to-day customer
- 19:04sentiment and operations. [music] I
- 19:06think the most elegant way to sum all of
- 19:08this up is with a typical Horschults
- 19:10quote. Customers ultimately want three
- 19:12things: a product or service with zero
- 19:15defects, they want timeliness, and most
- 19:18importantly, they want to be treated
- 19:21nicely. If your business doesn't
- 19:22accomplish those three things, no amount
- 19:24of technical strategy is going to fix
- 19:27this issue for you. What I built is not
- 19:29smarter than profound. It's just pointed
- 19:31at the [music] work and not the
- 19:32dashboard." Or said another way, it's
- 19:35focused on making the customer happy.
- 19:37After all, they're paying your salary.
- 19:39So, that's it right there. Seven bots,
- 19:41$20, all working while you sleep. If you
- 19:44want the exact bot descriptions, the
- 19:46routines, and the 30-prompt [music]
- 19:48diagnostic set that Iris runs, it's all
- 19:50linked below in the description. And I
- 19:51promise you, you don't have to pay for a
- 19:53school community, and you don't even
- 19:55have to give me your email address. That
- 19:57is my thank you for watching this video.
- 19:59All I ask is maybe giving me a like, or
- 20:01if you didn't like it and have
- 20:02constructive feedback, feel free to
- 20:03leave a comment. I'm always trying to
- 20:04improve. I just want you to actually run
- 20:06the diagnostic set because most brands
- 20:09never do. Now, if there's one thing you
- 20:10do from this video, make it the
- 20:1210-minute one. Open ChatGPT, Perplexity,
- 20:15[music] and Google AI mode right now.
- 20:16Simply type, "What do people think about
- 20:18my brand?" and "What do people think
- 20:20about my category?" That costs nothing,
- 20:21[music]
- 20:22and it's the entire category in a
- 20:23nutshell. One quick story. A company
- 20:25that I used to work at, which does over
- 20:27a billion dollars in annual revenue, and
- 20:29has been around for over 30 years, never
- 20:31had a warranty policy. Never had a
- 20:33refund policy. And the executive team
- 20:35knew that they could get away with it.
- 20:37And for the longest time, they didn't
- 20:39really care about customer reviews
- 20:40because they didn't really put much
- 20:42emphasis on SEO. But now that AEO is
- 20:46what shows up first, you better believe
- 20:48they're paying the price. Now, you can
- 20:49just imagine what they're going through
- 20:51now. Never ever forget,
- 20:54the person paying your salary is
- 20:56ultimately the customer. And I dare say
- 20:57it's unethical to discount that. But I
- 20:59think that's all I got for now, guys.
- 21:00Subscribe if you want to keep hearing
- 21:01from me. As a small YouTube channel, I
- 21:03really appreciate you, and I always
- 21:05will. I hope you guys have a great rest
- 21:06of your day. Cheers.
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