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0:00This has been the year where
0:01manufacturers have finally started
0:02listening to us.
0:05Over the years, I've been harsh to a lot
0:07of machines. And it's because I think we
0:08can expect more from manufacturers. I
0:10think they should listen to consumers
0:12and to consumer trends, especially when
0:14prices go up. Now, this year it seems
0:16that manufacturers have finally started
0:18to listen. Going back even last year to
0:20the Quick Mill Pop-Up, but this year we
0:21had Gaggia put the PID in, we've had the
0:24paddle put on the Mara X, and now we
0:27have the Elizabeth, what I have touted
0:29as what I think to be the best dual
0:31boiler for the price point on the
0:33market. And they have added the Pagaea,
0:35the paddle, the flow control paddle to
0:37it.
0:40So, they've been listening, they've been
0:41taking notes, and of course the price
0:43went up. But, is it justified? And is
0:46this something that is worth your time
0:48or not? That's what we're going to be
0:49doing in today's video. We're going to
0:51do a full review of the Elizabeth 3
0:53Pagaea.
0:54Let's get right on into it.
0:59Now, this video may go a little bit
1:00long, of course, because I like to do
1:02deep dives. I don't like to make it
1:04really truncated just so you can have
1:05your 8-minute quick opinion piece. I
1:07want to give you a look. I want you to
1:10understand exactly what's going on here,
1:12so that if you're in the market to buy
1:14something, you can go in with
1:15confidence, whether or not you're
1:16wanting to do it. So, we're going to
1:17take a look at the insides, we're going
1:18to take a look at what all it does, and
1:20we're going to talk about the
1:21performance of it all together.
1:24Please feel free to use the time cues
1:26down below because uh they'll be robust
1:28and hopefully very helpful. Anyway,
1:30let's go on with it.
1:35Let's start off by just taking a look at
1:36their design language. So, right off the
1:38bat you notice they don't have bang,
1:40that big old red little LED right in the
1:41middle. In addition to that, they've
1:43taken the buttons that were once on this
1:44side, and they splayed them along the
1:46bottom.
1:47They took the coupling of the manometer
1:49as well as the screen, the LCC, the
1:52little LED control center, and they have
1:53separated it for one on each side to
1:56give a little bit of balance to the
1:57machine itself. It does seem to be 4 cm
2:00wider than the previous, while all the
2:01other dimensions are the same. Now, in
2:03the same way they had on the Mara X,
2:05they've added those two metal stripes
2:07down the side, which is also on their
2:08Fred Grinder in order to evoke a new
2:11type of brand language, a new brand
2:12design that can be put on all of their
2:14machines.
2:15They took that nasty rinky-dinky little
2:17tiny plastic steam wand that I
2:20absolutely eviscerated in my previous
2:21Elizabeth review, and they've put a nice
2:23chunky wood piece here that matches kind
2:26of the handles on the Mara X with that
2:28pentagonal style design.
2:30On the other side, they have matching
2:31wood with the pagaia, which is just that
2:33Italian for paddle. So, this you put
2:34your finger in and you can open it up
2:36and it'll go down. We'll go over that in
2:37a bit. And then, of course, they've got
2:39the redesigned handle on the portafilter
2:41right here.
2:42They've now put a much more substantial
2:44handle on it with a nice stainless steel
2:46piece there at the bottom, but the wood
2:47on all of these is incredibly nice and
2:49feels really good. It does seem like
2:51something that might get garner some
2:53like oils over time that'll change the
2:55color, I think in a good way, and you
2:56might need to treat it. Uh but, it feels
2:58really nice, really high quality, and
3:00the portafilter itself, I mean, it's
3:02it's it's a it's a good piece. Uh that
3:04said, I do wish it also came with a
3:06bottomless portafilter. My machine came
3:08with just a split shot, um which is
3:10great, and honestly, I will use it. I do
3:12think I I prefer actually looking at
3:14heavy crema shots coming out of these
3:16actually visually. I think it looks
3:19I mean, that's a that's probably
3:20unpopular opinion, but I do overall tend
3:22to prefer bottomless. It's just I just
3:24do. That is what it is.
3:28The tip of the steam wand is redesigned,
3:30and this one is a three-hole steam tip,
3:32which is going to make your steaming a
3:33faster process. They had two hole on the
3:36previous version. This one also is an
3:38insulated steam wand, so you won't get
3:39burned whenever you're touching it.
3:43And then, finally, the last thing to
3:44point out is
3:45the little feet on it. Now, just like in
3:47the Mara, this is the same really
3:49low-quality feeling legs. Yes, it's
3:51wood, but honestly, it's so thin. It
3:53just didn't feel substantial putting
3:54them on. They didn't feel like, you
3:56know, carved out of a single piece kind
3:57of thing. But, they they work, and I
3:59think they work a lot better on this
4:01machine than they did on the Mara. On
4:02the Mara, if you recall, whenever you
4:04were looking at the machine, they kind
4:05of stuck out of the side a bit. They
4:06weren't actually under the machine, and
4:08I thought it looked a little silly. On
4:10this one, I think it actually works
4:11really well, personally.
4:13So far, I think that the design change
4:16from the previous iteration to this
4:18iteration is much better on the
4:20Elizabeth than the Mara's design
4:22changes, though I still really like the
4:24knobs on the Mara.
4:26We're going to go back again, back in
4:28time, where I talked years ago in one of
4:30my early Breville Dual Boiler videos,
4:32talked about how Breville has a patent
4:34on the essentially the dimmer mod. So,
4:36adding a potentiometer to the pump in
4:38order to control the frequency so that
4:39you can control the pressure, the pump
4:41pressure coming out. That's why on the
4:43Dual Boiler, the Breville Dual Boiler,
4:44Sage Dual Boiler, you can go into the
4:46menu, you can change the pump pressure
4:48from 60% to 100%, and you can make it up
4:50to 90 seconds for pre-infusion purposes,
4:53which gives you actually a lot of
4:54playroom and is a really cool feature to
4:56have. They didn't unlock it all for you,
4:58but there it was. And this is something
5:00that for years I've been saying Breville
5:02really needs to unlock a manual control
5:05for this. I mean, they already have the
5:06tech, unlock it. And I've shown in past
5:09videos years ago how you can actually
5:11take a simple dimmer switch from your
5:13local home goods store, and you can
5:15route it into your typical vibratory
5:17pump very easily. You just got to splice
5:19in some wires, and you're good to go.
5:21You can use that dimmer mounted on your
5:22machine, and you've got flow control by
5:24controlling the voltage to the pump.
5:27So, for years we've been saying, "Why
5:28don't they do this?" Us home enthusiasts
5:30have had to mod our machines in order to
5:31get that control because that is what's
5:33important. Whereas, manufacturers were
5:35just thinking bigger and bigger boilers,
5:37more and more thermal stability, we were
5:39saying, "Stop with that crap. Give us
5:41flow control." So, anyway, they launched
5:43the Piccola this year, which is is
5:45the dimmer modification
5:47on the machine. So, you don't have to go
5:49in and mess with your warranty. Now, I
5:52first reviewed the Mara a few months ago
5:54with their Pagaya on it, and I thought
5:55it was good. It was $300 more expensive
5:59than the other
6:00than the previous version of the Mara,
6:02and I didn't really think it was worth
6:04it because the biggest changes were the
6:05knobs on the machine, and then really
6:08just that knob that the paddle on the
6:09side. The paddle in that one though is
6:12different than the one on this one. The
6:13paddle in that one when you start your
6:15shot, you can control it all the way up
6:17or all the way down. Going all the way
6:18down will shut it off essentially
6:20without releasing solenoid, then going
6:21all the way up increases it and all in
6:23between. And that's good. That that
6:25makes sense. That's close to what a
6:26dimmer does.
6:28But what a dimmer actually does when
6:30you're thinking about in a in a room
6:31where you turn your light on, turn your
6:33light off, is you can turn it on with
6:35the knob. There's an initial
6:37click. And then you dim it, right? And
6:40so that initial click is what initiates
6:42the light.
6:44We didn't have that on the Mara X.
6:46We have it in the Elizabeth.
6:48So, you don't even need to touch a
6:50button. You just start
6:53>> [music]
6:54>> and there's that
6:55click right there. So, that is a huge
6:58difference and a very welcome difference
7:00that you can start and stop your shots
7:02with the Pagaya. Now, in addition to
7:04that, and arguably what I'm more excited
7:06about, I don't know. It's it's I'm I'm I
7:08am most excited about the guy, but this
7:09this next thing is actually very
7:10exciting because it's something that you
7:13don't really get on a non-screen
7:15machine.
7:16They have given you the opportunity with
7:18these two buttons right here to have two
7:20pressure profile recipes.
7:23Yes. Now, you know you're going to
7:25Lance, you're not a big pressure profile
7:26fan. You're correct, I'm not. But if you
7:29tell me I can have two preset pressure
7:31profiles without having to have a screen
7:33and I can have flow control, that is a
7:35huge plus in my book. I absolutely think
7:37that's fantastic for the majority of
7:39consumers out there. Now, don't get me
7:41wrong.
7:42I'm still choosing the Micra, my baby,
7:4410 times out of 10 over any espresso
7:46machine on the market. Obviously, I mean
7:49the That's that's just my style of
7:51shots. But, I review things not for me,
7:53but for the every person. I think
7:55overall, the majority of people who are
7:56getting into coffee, I know from
7:59comments, most of you don't want to mess
8:00with a screen, don't want software
8:01updates, don't want to mess with all of
8:02that. You want something that you can
8:04manually feel and control and have some
8:06good feedback on, and you want something
8:07that you can just mindlessly go for. So,
8:09inside of the Lelit control center, you
8:11can actually go through and program in
8:12your pressure and your time for five
8:14different stages. Meaning, you can do a
8:16three bar for five seconds and a nine
8:18bar for four seconds and a six bar for
8:20seven seconds, and you can mess around
8:22with those five stages to your heart's
8:24content. Again, flow rate is my
8:26preference, but actually having a
8:28measurement for flow rate is much more
8:30difficult. What they're doing here is
8:31they're just doing using the same
8:33technology as the dimmer here, except
8:35with preset numbers. So, nine bar is a
8:37certain amount of pump pressure, right?
8:39Eight bar is a certain amount of pump
8:41pressure, the voltage to the pump. Now,
8:42of course, I went through and measured
8:44the flow rates.
8:46Now, I have them all on the back of the
8:48new pressure profile card, but
8:50So, before we go over some of these
8:51numbers, I'm going to show you though,
8:53this came in the in the booklet or with
8:55the booklet, and it shows an update to
8:58the pressure profiling button. So, in
8:59the manual, they say the pressure
9:01profiling buttons are two specific
9:03recipes, but they have since changed it
9:05and they didn't reprint, you know, this
9:07beefy boy.
9:09So, they added this little pamphlet in
9:11with the machines to tell you that
9:12they've changed it. Now, the two
9:14buttons, if it's factory, which mine is
9:16no longer factory, of course, I've
9:17messed with them. The first button, when
9:19you get it in your box, is what they
9:21call a lever shot profile, a traditional
9:24profile. They have step one is three bar
9:27pressure for five seconds, step two is
9:29eight bar for 10 seconds, step three
9:31nine bar for 25 seconds, step four eight
9:33bar for 10 seconds, then step five is
9:35seven bar in perpetuity. So, what
9:38they've done also with this machine is
9:39it's a new vibratory pump that's even
9:41more silent than the previous and has a
9:42much higher water debit, which is
9:45awesome. If you all recall, typically in
9:47the Lites with the old silent silent
9:49vibratory pumps, you're getting a max
9:51like five five and a half mils a second
9:53water debit. This is going way above
9:55that to almost 10 to 10 10 and a half
9:58even. So, they've got a new pump in
10:00here, which is allowing for a much more
10:01robust duty cycle. Normally on vibratory
10:05pumps like Olcas, you have a 60-second
10:06or a 90-second duty cycle. This bad boy,
10:09you can do up to five minute shot times,
10:11up to 299 seconds. That's crazy. So,
10:15these two shots, they are based off of
10:17time. So, obviously it's not ideal. It's
10:19not as nice as having like software
10:21where you can put move on when there's
10:23five grams in the cup cuz there's no
10:25gravimetrics here. Move on when pressure
10:27hits this. You don't have that. It's
10:29much more simplistic. It's much more
10:30bare-bones, but no other machine that's
10:32a dumb machine has that. That's good
10:35enough if you're doing like a lever
10:36style. So, the idea with this was they
10:38wanted, you know, three bar, eight bar,
10:39nine bar, eight bar, seven bar.
10:41I don't like that. I changed it. I think
10:43there are better lever style approaches
10:45you can do.
10:46Um
10:47so, I actually programmed one, of
10:48course, that we'll take a look at later
10:49on button number two. Uh and then their
10:51other one that comes stock on their
10:53button two out of the box is a modern
10:55shot. And this makes me think that
10:57they've been watching uh my channel cuz
10:58they changed it to this. Before they had
11:00it at nine bar, and it was modern shot
11:01in their pamphlet. But they've changed
11:03it to step one two bar for 15 seconds,
11:06step two six bar.
11:09Step three five, then four, then three.
11:11It is exciting that they've come through
11:12and offered that. Now, I've gone through
11:14and actually recalibrated these uh to
11:16two different shots. I've put a
11:17substance style shot on the first
11:20button, which if you're unfamiliar,
11:21Substance is a cafe in Paris run by my
11:23friend Joaquin, and he is notorious for
11:26his very unique Slayer style shots.
11:28He'll do a 20-second pre-infusion at
11:301.33 ml a second, which is the first
11:33position on a Slayer espresso machine.
11:35And then, he'll do anywhere from 5 to 15
11:38seconds of full flow, which on the
11:40Slayer, I can't remember the water
11:41debit, something like 8 or 10 ml a
11:43second, but he'll let it go, and it's
11:45anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds, and you
11:47might be building up to like two or
11:49three bar of pressure. There've been
11:50people saying it's higher than that, but
11:52it's If it's 5 seconds, you're not even
11:54reaching two bar. Anyway, so I have this
11:57set for 20 seconds of half a bar, cuz
11:59you have to do it by bar. Uh it's not
12:01quite 1.33, it's closer to two or so in
12:03my measurement, but still. And then
12:05after 20 seconds of that,
12:07it is it's trained to go up to about
12:09seven uh bar of pressure. The water
12:11debit that I measured, by the way, is
12:12without anything
12:14inhibiting the flow. So, if I do 20
12:17seconds of 0.5 bar, yes, it starts off
12:20going at around two 2.2 ml a second, but
12:23it can't continue pushing after about
12:260.5 bar of pressure. So, we have that
12:28for the for one of them, and then the
12:29second one is a lever style shot,
12:31something that I uh did to emulate more
12:33so a lever in my experience with steam
12:35pre-infusion to the best of my ability.
12:38Now anyway, let's get back to our
12:39numbers.
12:40We'll put these on the screen so that
12:41you can kind of screenshot it if you
12:42want to know, but I used the BrewMeO app
12:45and a Bluetooth scale in order to
12:47ascertain these. I let them run 10
12:48seconds each, so it's the average over
12:5010 seconds, essentially. So, half a bar
12:53is around that 2 and 1/2 ml a second,
12:55one bar is about 3 ml a second, two bar
12:575 ml, three bar 5 and 1/2, four bar 6
13:00and 1/2, five bar eight, six bar eight
13:02and 1/2. So, it's not linear, as you
13:04hear. It's It's not linear at all,
13:05which, you know, c'est la vie. It's
13:07That's not really what they're aiming
13:09for, they're aiming for that pressure,
13:10but these are the resulting water
13:12debits. Of course, water debit changes
13:14once it hits resistance, but this is
13:16when it's uninhibited. Seven bar is 9
13:18ml, eight bar is 9 and 1/2, nine bar is
13:2010 ml a second, which is awesome.
13:23Then on the Pavoni Caravel, they
13:24actually show you, which this is also
13:26something that
13:28This is this is just great. They also
13:29show you when you're doing the fogaya
13:32the percentage the paddle has been
13:33moved.
13:36And on the screen they also show the bar
13:37of pressure, the back pressure. There's
13:38no back pressure right now, so it shows
13:40zero, but they have a blue a transducer
13:42inside, a pressure transducer, that
13:44shows you the back pressure right there
13:46on the screen. So at the top you see the
13:48percentage of the fogaya paddle, and
13:50then you see the bar of pressure, and
13:51then you see the time of extraction. So
13:54I measured randomly I put 1% 5% and then
13:57by every 10.
13:58At 1% of the paddle you get 1 and 1/2 ml
14:02a second water debit. At 5% 2 and 1/2,
14:0510 is 3, 20 is uh just under five, 30 is
14:09six, 40 is seven, 50 is seven and a
14:11half, 60 is eight, 70 is eight and a
14:13half, 80 is nine, 90 is nine and a half,
14:16and 100% is 10. So this is going way
14:19faster than the previous Lelit's with
14:22this new vibratory pump inside, and it's
14:24still quite quiet in comparison to a lot
14:27of other machines taking into account
14:29the Decent for example, or the Gaggia's
14:31or anything like that. It's way more
14:32silent, which is fantastic. We will open
14:34this up in a little bit after we pull
14:36some shots and take a look, but they
14:37have made some changes inside. First of
14:39all, they have a 600 ml stainless steel
14:41steam boiler.
14:43So that's really nice. Stainless steel,
14:44you know, chef's kiss, I love that. Now
14:46for the boiler they did change it. The
14:48boiler is no longer 300 ml, it is now
14:51200 ml. Now I know some of you may go,
14:53"Oh, they went smaller, that's worse." I
14:55actually argue it's better. I've been
14:56telling people for years they need to be
14:58going on smaller boilers. Down to that
14:59200 ml I think is fantastic. Give me a
15:02smaller boiler. I want faster, I want
15:04less water heat up at the same time, I
15:05want less gross water. Thank you. Chef's
15:08kiss. So they went down to 200 and it's
15:10a brass boiler.
15:12Now something else that they changed is
15:13they have a new 58 mm Lelit like group
15:16head. So it was 58 before, yes, but now
15:19what they've done is they have stainless
15:20steel heating element in the saturated
15:22group, which is going to further help
15:24with that uh uh saturation. So, what's
15:26really unique is when you turn this
15:27machine on, it is 100% ready in 9
15:30minutes. That's their claim, and that is
15:32what happens. I actually did do the
15:34measurements for that, and at 9 minutes,
15:36even though it will read a little higher
15:38temp on the screen, it is at that set
15:41temperature. So, for example, right now,
15:43you can always click It's showing what
15:45we're set at, right? You can always
15:46click the plus button, and it'll show
15:48what the brew boiler is currently at.
15:50Now, you have to take this with a grain
15:51of salt. The brew boiler temperature is
15:53based off of a probe inside. So, that
15:55may not be what's realized out of the
15:57group head, because it also has a heated
15:59group head. So, the temperature here is
16:01helpful to know what the temperature is
16:02at, but it may not reflect exactly
16:04what's coming out. A better reflection
16:06genuinely is what you have it set at.
16:08What they do when this machine starts up
16:10in order to give you that my 9-minute
16:11heat time is it initially prioritizes
16:14the brew boiler. Right when you turn it
16:16on, within the first minute or so,
16:17you're already at almost 100° C in the
16:20brew boiler. And it goes past 100° to
16:22120 I think I saw mine top out at 121° C
16:26for the brew boiler.
16:28And it sits there, so it fully heats up
16:30everything that's in the pathway of that
16:32brew boiler. We've noticed that whenever
16:34you just heat it up to the temperature
16:35you want, it takes a few shots, or it
16:37takes a lot longer for everything to
16:39stabilize thermally. But what they've
16:41done is they've said, "Hey, you know
16:42what? Let's prioritize the brew boiler.
16:44Let's really heat that sucker up. Then
16:47we'll go heat up the steam boiler."
16:48Because people are pulling shots before
16:49they steam. They heat that up at about
16:51minute three, maybe four, then it starts
16:54to superheat up that 600 mil steam
16:56boiler. And by 9 minutes, both are ready
16:59to go. The steam boiler is at 140, and
17:01the brew boiler is at that set
17:03temperature. Now, again, it will say on
17:05here a higher temp. I believe mine, uh
17:07the last time I measured it, which I
17:09have it set at 90, it said 99 at the
17:119-minute mark, but when I scaced it,
17:13with even with a cold scace, it heated
17:15up, and it ended up at 89.6
17:18with a cold case. So,
17:21we're and that was after about 20
17:22seconds it finally equalized to like
17:2389.6. So, you are good to go with that,
17:27which is fantastic. 9 minutes that for a
17:30traditional dual boiler machine, that is
17:33fantastic. All right? Now, of course,
17:35I'm spoiled, you're spoiled. If you have
17:37like a Bambino, Thermojet, flow-through
17:39heaters, yes, 1 minute, 15 seconds, 3
17:42seconds, that's better than 9 minutes.
17:44But, there is still a huge proportion of
17:46people that want a dual boiler. They
17:48want to steam, they want to
17:50extract same time, they want the
17:51longevity of boilers, the simplicity of
17:53taking them out and descaling them for
17:55longevity again. And I get that. And so,
17:58again, that's why we're making this
17:59video. I'm not actually going to spend a
18:01lot of time doing skase testing in this
18:03video because we did that for the past
18:04Elizabeth. That past Elizabeth was great
18:06and I think this one is even potentially
18:08a little bit better, but if you think
18:09your shots taste bad to because of
18:11temperature, no, just get good. That's a
18:12skill issue. I'm sorry. It's not the
18:13temperature. It's not.
18:15All right, let's grab our basket. So,
18:17I'm going to open up our little
18:19By the way, we have cleaning supplies.
18:20We've got the water filter. I have
18:22perfect water, so I'm not using it, but
18:23you should unless you're doing perfect
18:25water.
18:26Little blank basket. Then inside the
18:28portafilter, we have a single shot
18:29basket,
18:30which is
18:32whatever.
18:33Uh then we have 14 18 by IMS that has
18:35that nice little taper on it. And then
18:37we have, boom,
18:39bigger basket for like what is it? 20 to
18:4318 to 21. Now, y'all better believe I've
18:45been mostly using my own baskets. Before
18:46this demo, I'll use the baskets that
18:48come with it cuz they are good. Except,
18:50not a fan of the single shot. Y'all know
18:52my thoughts on single shots unless it
18:53has unless it's like step down, I don't
18:55want it. All right, so let's take that
18:57big boy basket, pop that in, and we'll
18:59pull substance style shot then a lever
19:01shot.
19:06All right, we have a lightly roasted
19:08pink bourbon from Colombia that I have
19:10put in here for the substance style
19:12shot. Now, again, to remind you, that's
19:13a 20-second pre-infusion of about 1 and
19:151/2 ml a second ideally. This is closer
19:18to two cuz it's at the half bar uh what
19:20I have programmed here. And then after
19:2220 seconds, it's going to ramp up
19:24essentially just put as push as much
19:25pressure as it can. You'll notice so it
19:27doesn't really get that high. But
19:28anyway, here it goes.
19:31All right. And we're doing 20 g in the
19:33portafilter. I'm going to aim for about
19:3450 out. 50 to 55.
19:38So, we're at that [music] 20-second half
19:40bar. You hear how quiet that is?
19:43Cuz it's doing low work. It's only doing
19:44half a bar. Here comes some drips.
19:51Now it's ramping up.
19:53We can see the pressure doesn't get too
19:54too high,
19:56which is purposeful.
19:59And then we're going to stop it. Bang.
20:01Right at about 55 out in a 30 seconds.
20:04So, we have about 10 seconds of
20:05infusion. That's right in that window
20:07that is typical with the Slayer style or
20:09substance style Slayer shot. But there
20:12we go. It's got like a nectar-looking
20:14thickness about it.
20:16But let's take a sip.
20:22Straight juice. Straight nectar.
20:26Heavy berry compote.
20:29>> [snorts]
20:32>> It's really lovely.
20:436.8
20:47This pouch sucks.
20:57All right. Here comes the lever style
20:58shot that I've programmed. We'll go into
21:00the menu in a bit to show you what these
21:01programs look like, but here's an
21:03example.
21:05You can the pressure gauge as it goes
21:06through pre-infusion to the full
21:07infusion
21:08and all of that.
21:42I have it descending more and there we
21:44go.
21:45So that was it just under a 1:2
21:48in 44 seconds, which is pretty typical
21:50of a lever when you do that initial
21:51saturation. And I'll show you again what
21:53what this looks like in there, but look
21:54at that gorgeous.
21:56And again, pretty damn quiet.
21:59>> [snorts]
22:02>> It ain't no soccer crema bar, but it's
22:04all I had for you those of you who freak
22:06out when you don't see a really thick
22:07shot. Hugo will probably give us a -7,
22:09but I'm going to make him drink it cuz
22:10he rated the other one lower than it
22:11should have been.
22:14Yeah, enjoy it.
22:17These people need to see crema or they
22:19think a machine can't pull espresso. So
22:21we had I'm working with what I got.
22:23Saka, I need more crema bar, baby. I got
22:25to order some.
22:25>> Mine is
22:2730.
22:28>> I was going to say 27.
22:29Um
22:30That was no fault of the machine, by the
22:32way. It's just the coffee is not good
22:34itself. But look gorgeous and a lot of
22:36you are like, "I need to see crema or
22:38the machine's not very good."
22:47All right, now we're going to do a
22:48Pagliacci shot. So all we're going to do
22:49to start it is I'm going to Please make
22:51sure to watch this. Check this out.
22:52Bang. Look at that. We're at We'll go to
22:55100% power. Then we're going to go down
22:57to like zero. Let it bloom. You see I
22:59didn't click it off, though.
23:01And we're going to go up to 50
23:03ish. There you go.
23:0550.
23:07Now let's get that flow higher. Let's go
23:08up to like 90.
23:11Now we're going to just slowly go back
23:13down. Watch that pressure gauge react.
23:16We're at 2.8 bar, 2.7, 2.5
23:21to nothingness. Look at that.
23:2368 out. That's a nice modern shot right
23:26there. That was in 28 seconds. Bottom of
23:29the bottom of the boom. And now just to
23:31show you guys I forgot, I'm going to
23:32start this shot. Now, this has spent
23:34coffee in it so it's going to look
23:35really ugly, but it doesn't really
23:36matter. We're going to start the shot
23:37here.
23:38And then you hit the plus button and it
23:40shows temperature of brew boiler,
23:41temperature of steam, and then the time.
23:43You hit it again though, you see
23:44pressure that it's supposed to be,
23:46pressure that it is, and then the time.
23:49So, there we have this and then watch,
23:51it's going to go up in a second
23:54of what the ideal is and then what it
23:56actually is. Let's come on. There we go.
23:58So, it's supposed to be at seven and
24:00it's building. It can't build cuz it's a
24:02spent puck, but anyway, so you can watch
24:04it in real time as well on these shots.
24:05So, not only does the Pagaea show this,
24:07but they show you real-time back
24:10pressure and set pressure. But anyway,
24:12let's take a sip.
24:27Future of your job is on the line here.
24:32>> 10.
24:33>> I knew it.
24:35>> [snorts]
24:35>> Mhm.
24:36We'll be back in a second. Let me finish
24:37this drink.
24:41That is good. I don't care what you say.
24:43>> No, no, no, no, no. I was kidding.
24:45It's It's okay.
24:46>> That is super good.
24:48Wow.
24:50There's the purge. Not much to purge and
24:52then bang, high pressure.
24:54Does a good job.
24:56Nothing out of the Nothing crazy. It's,
24:59you know, it's a good steam wand. I
25:00don't like wasting time on steam wands
25:02because you either know how to steam
25:03milk or you don't. And if you don't,
25:05it's simple to learn. Learn it. Don't
25:06complain when you have a good steam
25:08wand. This is a good steam wand.
25:12Oh, actually, one thing I forgot. Uh
25:14drip tray. It is all plastic except for
25:16just this little cut coating out here.
25:19They do have
25:22They do have two little walls right
25:23here, which is nice, but I kind of I
25:25wish they had one like
25:27another one here. What The reason why
25:29you have these is it breaks up the
25:30capability of it to go crazy when you're
25:32walking, but side to side it's still It
25:35can still go pretty crazy. I wish they'd
25:36put one more little fin right there. So,
25:38when you're walking to the sink, if you
25:40accidentally go side to side, it's not
25:41going to drip. But, like look, when you
25:43go this way,
25:44because those are there, it breaks up
25:46the flow, right? So, we just need, you
25:48know, more there. But, you know, this is
25:50a fine drip tray. It's a little shallow,
25:52but it's big, beefy, and you don't
25:55You don't waste a lot of water on this,
25:57which is really nice. They reuse it. In
25:58fact, a lot of this is because I let a
26:00shot keep running in the drip tray. So,
26:02that's That's why there's like coffee in
26:04here. Let's take a quick look at the
26:05LCC. So, you hit that minus button, and
26:08you're able to change the the
26:10temperature. We go right with the plus
26:12sign. This is all in the manual, so we
26:14won't like spend too much time here, but
26:16simply to change it, you'll hit that
26:17Whoops, we got to get back to the menu.
26:19So, there we go. You hit that. We can go
26:21down. We can go up.
26:25Whatever it is. And we're going to get
26:26back to 90. Let it flash three times,
26:29and then it's set. Boom. We go to the
26:31next one, which this is This as I was
26:33telling you, the first two are done by
26:35time. So, you can set overall 60
26:36seconds, or you can in- increase it.
26:39What it'll What it'll change is the
26:40fifth step. The fifth step in the
26:42pressure profile has no time limit. So,
26:44it's just going to keep running at
26:45whatever that fifth step is. That's the
26:47goal. So, if it's seven bar, it isn't
26:49going to be able to do seven bar in
26:50perpetuity. It's going to be losing
26:52pressure, but it'll flow at seven bar
26:55pump pressure as far as the amount of
26:57voltage going to the pump. So, let me
26:59break this down one more time for you to
27:00kind of understand what it means when
27:02it's saying seven bar. It's saying the
27:03peak pressure that pump can generate is
27:06seven bar. Because it's doing it though
27:09based off of pump pressure and not off
27:11of an OPV, it's not going to have as
27:13fast of a flow rate if you were to do
27:15nine bar, right? That's why I went
27:18measured all the flow rates of
27:19uninhibited flow from the group head.
27:21The way it's doing it is not relying on
27:23a physical mechanism with a spring where
27:26once nine bar is hit, it shunts excess
27:28flow. Instead, it chills the flow out so
27:32that it can't actually build as much
27:33pressure. So, the max pressure genuinely
27:36at seven bar is seven bar, and it's not
27:38because we're shunting flow to maintain
27:40seven. It's because we're modulating the
27:43wattage or the voltage to the pump
27:45itself, the frequency to the pump so
27:47that it's not able to generate as much
27:48pressure. Make sense? So, when it's at
27:51seven or if you ended at three, it's
27:53going to go at the max flow rate that it
27:55can depending on the resistance that the
27:58puck is giving it. So, like I showed you
28:00on these different um flow rates. So,
28:02anyway, we get back to menu, which is
28:03this. Then we can go through them like
28:05that. That's shot number two, 60 seconds
28:07overall. Then shot number one, this is
28:08disabling it or or enabling it. Right
28:11here is where we can actually change
28:14each step.
28:16So, right now for the substance saw
28:18shot, it's one bar for 20 seconds, but I
28:20can change the one bar to half a bar
28:21like that.
28:23There we go. Boom. Now we can change it
28:2520 seconds
28:27like so, but I wanted it 20 seconds.
28:29We'll let that go. We go to the next
28:31one, which is seven bar, and then I have
28:32the next one at seven, then zero and
28:34zero. Now, something to point out is you
28:36can set, because there are five, I just
28:38put the last two at zero. Because you
28:39can set a stage to zero, that would be a
28:41bloom. So, let's say you wanted six bar,
28:44and then you wanted it to bloom. So, you
28:45could put zero bar for 10 seconds and it
28:48will bloom. It will stop the pump. It
28:50will stop giving free It's just like if
28:51we were to open this up
28:54and go to here. Here the pump stops.
28:56Whoops. Yeah.
28:57You hear that? Pump stopped, but the
28:59solenoid hasn't released cuz look,
29:01we're still going.
29:05Right?
29:06Now the solenoid releases, okay? When
29:08that click happens. So, same thing
29:09happens in the blooming. You can put it
29:11at zero bar and it will bloom. You can
29:13make that a phase. You could bloom as
29:15the third phase or that you could do
29:16three bar to nine bar bloom, whatever.
29:19But that's that's what you can do. So,
29:20let's get back to
29:23this. So, that's enabling or disabling
29:26the second and then this is the second
29:28pressure profile. And then we have steam
29:30temperature. We can change the steam
29:31temp. We can turn the steam boiler on or
29:33off.
29:34Boom. No more steam boiler. So, it's
29:36going to cool down cuz I don't ever use
29:37it. That I don't need to heat up all
29:38that water.
29:39Don't need it. We're going to keep on
29:40going. Do we want to Celsius or
29:42Fahrenheit? And then we can have the
29:43barista lights on or off. And then it
29:45shows the shots. So, the last one is a
29:46shot counter. This shows essentially the
29:48shots I've pulled during the video cuz I
29:49had a factory reset before filming. So,
29:52you can see the shots that you have. But
29:53now look, it shows brew boiler is on,
29:55steam boiler is off.
29:56So, that's what you can do inside of
29:58that
29:59menu. Let's continue.
30:02Now, first things first, I got the big
30:04beefy 2 and 1/2 L water tank. Now,
30:06something they did change is they don't
30:07have the cords going in the machine
30:08anymore. They opted for the under so
30:10that you don't have to clean those
30:11tubes. Now, I understand that for like
30:14simplicity the simplicity, the work, the
30:17the use that is preferred for a lot of
30:19people. I have found with owning
30:22probably up close to 100 machines at
30:24this point that when you have the bottom
30:25entry point, that's where more issues
30:27can come up if you bump it in the wrong
30:30way or mess something up, it gets a
30:31little more annoying down there because
30:33the the connections are can be fragile.
30:36Um whereas with the tubes in the top,
30:38yeah, you have to maintain them and
30:39clean them, but those are forever.
30:42That's like I I when I restore old
30:43gauges that have them that go straight
30:45to the drip tray, you just replace with
30:46other silicone. It's not a big deal. You
30:48know, this is actually nicer for me, but
30:50if I were a long-term user, uh you know,
30:52years and years and years, you know, I
30:54would personally prefer tubes going in.
30:55But someone in my Patreon is going to be
30:57getting this machine. And if you're
30:58wanting to potentially be one of those
30:59people, check out my Patreon down below.
31:02Anyway, let's put this to the side.
31:04Continue on.
31:06Okay. So, I need uh there's a Phillips
31:09head on the ground I think maybe.
31:15All right, and we are open. So, in order
31:17to get to this, you may be like, "Oh my
31:18god, was that difficult?" It really
31:20wasn't. I took out one screw to take the
31:21top off, and then there were five screws
31:23to take the shell off, and then five
31:25extra screws cuz there's another piece
31:27of metal that sits here kind of blocking
31:29off where uh the PCB and everything is,
31:31so it's separated from any potential
31:33moisture. Uh so, all in all, 11 screws
31:35and then two extra that just needed to
31:37be loosened, but you didn't need to
31:38actually take them out.
31:41First of all, you see right here, nice
31:42insulated stainless steel 600 ml steam
31:46boiler. Then right here we have our
31:48brass brew group, the saturated group,
31:50which is right above the group head.
31:52Now, I have not been able to see what
31:56what cords are going to these um
31:58stainless steel heating elements that
32:00are in the new Lelit group head. Um so,
32:02I'm not quite sure. Maybe I'm just
32:05missing something cuz there's so much
32:06stuff going on here, but um
32:09I'm not sure where those would uh be.
32:11Normally, they're like cartridges. It's
32:13like for instance, on an E61 group when
32:14people like ACS puts heating cartridges
32:17into it, they drill into the back of the
32:19unit and they actually just put the
32:21cartridges inside. I'm not sure where
32:23these could be. Maybe they're under the
32:25front part of it or something, but
32:27regardless, um
32:29that's what we have. Now, just taking a
32:31look, all the hot water lines seem to be
32:33all made of PTFE, otherwise known as
32:35Teflon. So, with that, we have lots of
32:37brass fittings, which is nice to see all
32:39over the place, and then lots of
32:40stainless steel as well. And then we
32:42have copper, obviously, for the pressure
32:43transducer. There is some use of zip
32:46ties in here. I think there could be
32:47even more use to make it even more just
32:51you know, visually appealing. I'm a
32:54little bit of a stickler because I open
32:55so many machines. I'd like to be a bit
32:56more organized than the chaos that I'm
32:59kind of seeing right now. It's not
33:01Again, it's not terrible, but and
33:03there's enough room that it's not that
33:04big of a deal, but I would enjoy a
33:06little bit more a little bit more
33:09organization. But anyway, let's travel
33:11with the water. Let's see where the
33:12water goes in here, and then see what
33:14all the doohickeys and whatnot are. So,
33:17water starts right over here. So, down
33:19here is the pump. Water travels through
33:22this tube underneath where the water
33:23tank is sitting, through the tube into
33:25the pump, which is right there, which is
33:26the vibratory pump, different from their
33:28other ones.
33:29And then we go past it, and there is a
33:32relief right here that goes to the drip
33:33tray, all right? But there is a brass
33:36fitting here, which travels upwards when
33:38it's pressurized or heated water PTFE.
33:40So, that comes all the way up, and then
33:42we can keep following it right here into
33:44this T splitter, all right? So, this
33:45brass T splitter right here, it goes and
33:48enters the brew boiler right there. The
33:50other side of the T split continues with
33:52that PTFE down to another brass fitting,
33:55which is on a solenoid. Now, this
33:57solenoid feeds
33:59into the steam boiler. So, this is the
34:01entry point for the steam boiler. So,
34:03water goes, feeds the brew boiler, and
34:05then it continue going in order to fill
34:07up that steam boiler from the fresh
34:09water itself. Now, once it's in the
34:11steam boiler, only exit is out the top.
34:13There is no drainage point down below.
34:15Now, this is something I've been trying
34:16to make myself loud about for
34:18manufacturers, but please, please,
34:20please make an easy-to-access
34:23drainage point for boilers.
34:26Having to rely on pressure to to drain
34:28it, you're not going to get everything
34:29out. If we had an easy access point
34:30below to drain out our water, it's
34:33better for long-term storage. Now, in
34:34their manual, it does say if you're if
34:37you know, if you go more than a week
34:39without using it, they recommend doing a
34:41boiler flush. Well, it would be nice if
34:43it was also as easy to just drain the
34:45boiler itself as opposed to just
34:47replenishing it with fresh water. But
34:49anyway,
34:50so once the water is heated up and it's
34:52ready to be steam, well, first there is
34:54a release here that goes down to the
34:55drip tray with this silicon. But right
34:57here, it comes up
34:59and through this brass fitting here into
35:01PTFE. We follow that line into this
35:03brass fitting over to the steam wand.
35:06So, right here is where we open and
35:07close the valve and the steam wand goes
35:09down here and out through steam wand
35:11itself. So, that's what the steam boiler
35:13is doing. We have another release right
35:15here that also goes to the drip tray,
35:16which is actually well organized down
35:18below with little caps with a little
35:20Elite emblem on them, which is pretty
35:21neat to see. Anyway, let's go back to
35:23where water was entering and it enters
35:25into the brew boiler. Now, on the brew
35:27boiler, we see that we have thermal
35:28probe, we have different valves uh
35:30whatnot for safety purposes, but anyway,
35:32we get inside of here and then this is
35:34where we're releasing into the coffee
35:37itself. It goes straight from the boiler
35:39out of the group head. That's how we get
35:40our coffee.
35:42And also from the brew boiler, we should
35:43notice that there is another exit right
35:46here. So, we have an entryway for steam,
35:48which goes right here for the steam
35:50manifold, but what is this right here?
35:52This takes water from the brew boiler
35:54that's heated and it comes
35:58to the hot water spigot. There's
36:00multiple solenoids up here to control
36:02where when and where water is exiting,
36:04but the one for the back pressure right
36:05here, this is where we release it into
36:07the drip tray, but as you see here is
36:09where we've drilled in
36:10that pressure transducer. So, right here
36:13is where we're taking pressure and it
36:14reads and displays out on the manometer
36:16on the front. So, that is the main
36:19solenoid right there that's responsible
36:20for sucking out that pressure once the
36:22shot is done. Now, of course, we have
36:24other little things like two LED lights
36:26that are up here because you now have
36:27like those barista lights, which is
36:28nice, and some other little doohickeys
36:31and braided cords and whatnot for the
36:32different electronics. But, for the most
36:34part, it's relatively simple as far as
36:36its construction. It's not something
36:38that has as much internal electrics like
36:41the Lelit Bianca has. It's still
36:43maintaining that old-school vibe where
36:45it's a dual boiler with just buttons,
36:46but with a little bit extra thrown in in
36:48order to have the capabilities you do
36:50with the profiling and whatnot. But,
36:52anyway, that is largely what the insides
36:55look like. I think that's really enough
36:56to kind of go over to give you an idea
36:57of what it looks like inside.
36:59Um
37:01I think that Yeah, that's pretty much
37:02it. I mean, obviously, we have the
37:03wiring for the buttons. We have wiring
37:05for the LCC right there uh with the
37:08braided cord that goes down, uh which is
37:09a little bit of a weird
37:11situation, kind of wrapped around that
37:13steam manifold. But, anyway, that looks
37:16uh that looks good to me. So, let's uh
37:17conclude.
37:20We need to talk price, right? This one
37:22is at, I believe, 1699 euros, and right
37:25now in in England, it's 1599. Now,
37:27you'll notice that is another increase
37:29of price in a decent amount, about 25%
37:32from what the price was, which is around
37:34that 1299 marker.
37:36So,
37:37is it justified? Does that even make
37:39sense? Well, here's here's how I'm going
37:41to talk about price.
37:42Before this update, I made the argument
37:44that the Lelit Elizabeth was the best
37:47bang for your buck dual boiler. If you
37:49are someone that wants a dual boiler,
37:50I'm not saying it's better than these
37:52other machines that aren't in the same
37:53class. I'm saying the Breville Dual
37:55Boiler Dual Boiler. We're talking about
37:56the Rancilio Silvia Pro, Profitec Move,
37:59Breville Dual Boiler.
38:00A fun fact, about 5 years ago, right
38:03when I had started YouTube, I actually
38:05kind of made a concept machine with
38:07Breville that was showcased, one and
38:08done, at an expo, and on it, I had a
38:11gear pump put on there with flow control
38:14with a knob on the front. And also, I
38:15had the two buttons on the Breville Dual
38:17Boiler controlled to be a lever style
38:19shot and a turbo shot, which is
38:21essentially what they've done with this
38:22machine sans the gear pump on it. And
38:25so, before at that 12, 1300 dollar
38:28price, it was at the best and it was
38:31greatly
38:32wildly cheaper than the than the
38:33competitors. Profitec move being like
38:352200 and the Rancilio Silvia being like
38:382100 and then the Breville, I believe is
38:41about the same price depending on where
38:42you're at in the world. Australia
38:44obviously the Breville's much cheaper,
38:45but anyway, so
38:47now we have to take into account it's
38:50the where everything else is at and
38:52whether or not this is priced properly.
38:54With this 1699, it's probably going to
38:57be closer to 2000, 2100 in the US when
39:00it does release there if we can take
39:02trends of pricing to mean anything. With
39:04that in in mind, we're in a new price
39:06category and we're now very close to the
39:09Profitec move and to these others. That
39:11said, the Profitec move 2 is like 2200
39:14or so in Europe, which means in the
39:15states it'll probably be 2500 or 2550.
39:18So, that's in order to get some sort of
39:21fun capabilities, the price keeps going
39:23up more and more and more and more. So,
39:25when we're looking at dual boilers, I
39:27still think this is a competitive price.
39:30I'm not as mad about the price increase
39:31on this as I was about the Mara X. Not
39:33because I think they probably couldn't
39:35have they didn't have to do as big of a
39:37price increase, but it makes more sense.
39:39It's not just one little thing they've
39:40added. Not only did they add the switch,
39:42but they've now added percentage of
39:44what's going on. So, they had to do some
39:46extra work in order to showcase that.
39:48They've added the actual dimmer click on
39:50here so you can start and stop shots.
39:52They've added some extra software in
39:53order for that to work, but in addition
39:54to that, they also worked and made the
39:56pressure profiling capabilities inside
39:58of here. They also improved and changed
40:00the group head, which means they've got
40:01to do a different assembly for that
40:03group head. They also changed the boiler
40:05inside in order to make it a bit more
40:07efficient. Then the question comes,
40:09well, how does it compare to others in
40:11its price range? We've recently looked
40:13at the WPM Primus. That is about 1900
40:16euros and it's going to be like 24 or
40:172500 US dollars.
40:19And it has cool capabilities, but
40:22they're pressure profiling. If you
40:23recall, there is a flow profiling
40:25capability with the knob, but this can
40:27do the same thing. This one has two
40:28boilers as opposed to a boiler and a
40:30thermal block. So, you also have
40:32arguably more longevity because more
40:33people or can be stupid with a boiler
40:35and fix it than be stupid with a thermal
40:37block and fix it. Now then, of course,
40:39you have the more interesting
40:40comparison, which is this versus a
40:41Fellow Opus 1. In the US, it will
40:43definitely be cheaper than this. I would
40:45say by $500, probably. I'm not sure
40:47again what the price of this will be in
40:48the states, but the Fellow Opus 1 is
40:51also different. It has that boosted
40:52boiler flow-through heater type
40:53situation and a ton more more
40:55electronics inside. I still think the
40:57Fellow machine is absolutely incredible
40:59and I love it. And if I were to choose
41:00one just for coffee taste and what I can
41:03do with it and the speed at which it
41:05heats up, which is like 3 minutes, I'm
41:07probably choosing the Fellow,
41:10but
41:11that's based off in cup. If I were
41:14someone that was looking to buy one
41:15machine and lasting a long time, it
41:17becomes a much more difficult question
41:19because there's no proven track record
41:21for Fellow as far as longevity with the
41:23item, and there is proven with Elite,
41:26and it's a lot more understandable on
41:28the internals. I would buy what I have
41:30and what I use every day, which is
41:31Meticulous, but that's because I want
41:33something different out of my coffee
41:34than the majority of consumers. Majority
41:36of consumers want to have, if not
41:38mostly, an occasional cappuccino or
41:40milk-based beverage. I don't want that
41:42at all. I don't want just simple hit and
41:44go. I want to be able to play around and
41:47have essentially unlimited control over
41:49my espresso, and I want it
41:50piston-driven. I want lever style. But,
41:52that is not something most people want.
41:54Most want semi-automatics, and they want
41:55steaming. So, this makes fantastic
41:57coffee. It's 80 I I forgot to mention
41:59this, 80° to 100° in temperature, so you
42:01can do lower temperature shots. Uh you
42:03can do the really low pressure stuff.
42:04You can do manual. You can, you know,
42:06it's good. I'm very excited about this
42:09machine. I think this is, so far, out of
42:12all of the times uh manufacturers have
42:14listened to us. These types of videos
42:15where I talk about finally they've made
42:17these changes we've been asking for.
42:18This is the first time I truly feel like
42:20they kind of got it. This isn't even
42:21something that a lot of us were asking
42:23for. I mean, I guess I sort of did
42:25implicitly when I made that kind of
42:26concept Rebel some years ago, but it's
42:28wonderful. I was just expecting them to
42:30throw the paddle on there and upcharge
42:31400. This is the most exciting machine
42:35release that I've seen in some time as
42:37far as dual boilers go. You know, a lot
42:39of these others you might have some
42:41pre-infusion capability or soft infusion
42:42capability. You may have bigger and
42:44bigger boilers or you may have slightly
42:46more
42:47expensive interior
42:50fittings or something, but when all is
42:52said and done, as far as what's going to
42:54last a long time, this is going to last
42:56an incredibly long time. Heirloom type
42:57thing as long as you keep up with it and
42:59you replace things as they're needed
43:01because it's really easy to replace them
43:03and uh
43:04yeah, anyway.
43:07I'm I'm stoked. A lot of the updates
43:08Lelit has done I've not been a fan of
43:10and I've been very honest about it. This
43:11one, kudos to the team. This is This is
43:14really really really freaking nice and
43:16I'm stoked on it. Um
43:18anyway, I think that's it. We've done
43:20our comparisons with recent releases
43:22like the WPM Pro like the Fellow EKG,
43:23we've talked about it in comparison with
43:25the Profitec Pro 500 and Lelit Bianca
43:26Pro and the Gaggia Classic dual boiler.
43:29I think this has and not think, I know
43:31this has a lot more to offer at even a
43:34cheaper price point and I mean a lot
43:35more to offer. Like
43:37a ton more. If you If we're wanting just
43:40a hot water kettle hooked up to a pump
43:41in order to have boring nine bar old
43:43school espresso, cool.
43:45Get a whatever you want, but this is
43:47actually opening up a lot of doors for
43:49you to play around with with this flow
43:51flow control and with our pressure
43:53profiling. Again, I want to reiterate,
43:56flow profiling supreme, but
43:59it makes sense why they did this. It
44:00works with the ecosystem the way they've
44:02done the dimmer, all that stuff. Anyway,
44:04okay.
44:05I think that is enough. Uh 69 on Europe,
44:0859 on UK, to be determined in the US and
44:10elsewhere, but for now
44:15that's it.
44:17It's a freaking sick machine, and I'm
44:18actually stoked that they came through
44:20with something good.
44:22Mara was a fail, this one is not. Thank
44:24you so much for watching. Hope that you
44:25brew something tasty today, and cheers.

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