I Trained as a Spy — Here's How to Control Your Emotions — Transcript
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- 0:06Picture a spy sitting in an
- 0:09interrogation room, cold face, no
- 0:11reaction. Someone is firing hard
- 0:14questions at them and they don't even
- 0:17blink. Think about someone like James
- 0:19Bond. And here is what almost nobody
- 0:22tells you. That's not the real skill.
- 0:26The real skill is not feeling nothing
- 0:29because that's not even possible. Fear
- 0:32still shows up. The heart still speeds
- 0:34up. The body still reacts every single
- 0:37time. The real skill is something else.
- 0:40It's what you do in the first few
- 0:43seconds after that fear shows up. And
- 0:45that's exactly what I was trained to do.
- 0:48Today, in this episode, I'm going to
- 0:51show you the exact principle behind it.
- 0:54And it's not just useful in an
- 0:56interrogation room. It's useful when
- 0:59your boss messages you, "Oh, we need to
- 1:01talk right now." Or when your partner
- 1:03says, "We need to talk about our
- 1:05relationship." Or when you walk into an
- 1:08interview and just suddenly forget your
- 1:12own name. Or when someone says something
- 1:14to you and every part of you wants to
- 1:17snap back immediately. So, let's get
- 1:20into it. Hi, my name is Alia Rosa and I
- 1:23am a behavioral analyst and a certified
- 1:26coach. And before this, I worked as a
- 1:29secret agent fighting human and drug
- 1:31trafficking. Staying calm under real
- 1:34pressure during questioning, during
- 1:37high-stakes moments wasn't optional in
- 1:40that job. It was trained into me piece
- 1:44by piece. Now, on this channel, I break
- 1:47down that same training so you can use
- 1:50it, too, in everyday life, in hard
- 1:53conversations, job interviews,
- 1:56conflicts, anywhere your emotions try to
- 1:59take the wheel before you do. So, let's
- 2:02talk about what people get wrong about
- 2:04emotional control, and let's start with
- 2:06something most people misunderstand. We
- 2:09think emotional control means not
- 2:12showing emotions, not getting angry, not
- 2:15showing fear, talking in a calm voice
- 2:18even when everything inside you is
- 2:21boiling. And yes, sometimes that
- 2:25genuinely necessary, but here is the
- 2:27problem. If you are already furious, and
- 2:31you just tell yourself, "Okay, stay
- 2:34calm.
- 2:35Don't show it to anyone." You haven't
- 2:37actually calmed yourself down. You've
- 2:39just added a second job on top of the
- 2:42first one. Now your brain has to do two
- 2:45things at once, feel the emotion and
- 2:49make sure nobody notices. Control your
- 2:52voice, your face, your hands, your
- 2:55posture, your words. This is exactly why
- 2:59after some hard conversations, you walk
- 3:02away and realize, "I don't even remember
- 3:05half of what he said." Because the whole
- 3:07time you weren't actually listening to
- 3:10the conversation. You were busy trying
- 3:13not to lose it. And this is where it
- 3:16gets interesting. How an emotion
- 3:19actually shows up. An emotion doesn't
- 3:22appear just because something happened.
- 3:25There is a very important step in
- 3:28between the event and your reaction. You
- 3:31tell yourself a story about what
- 3:33happened. Picture this. Your boss sends
- 3:36you a message. "Come see me, please,
- 3:39right now." That's it. That's the whole
- 3:41message. But your brain can build an
- 3:44entire story out of it in about 2
- 3:47seconds. Okay, something is wrong. I
- 3:50probably messed something up. This is
- 3:53going to be serious. Maybe I'm getting
- 3:56fired. And that's it. 1 minute later,
- 3:59you are anxious, stressed, even though
- 4:03your boss might just want to talk to you
- 4:05if you are free for a meeting. One event
- 4:08happened, but the story told yourself
- 4:11about that event was something
- 4:14completely different. And that gap right
- 4:16now, right there, is exactly where you
- 4:19get the chance to influence your own
- 4:22reaction. And there are two completely
- 4:24different approaches here. The first is
- 4:27suppression. You're already angry,
- 4:30already scared, already spiraling, and
- 4:33now you're trying to act like everything
- 4:36is fine. Don't show it, don't react,
- 4:39smile, keep your voice calm. In the
- 4:42short term, this can look like great
- 4:45self-control, but the emotion hasn't
- 4:47actually gone anywhere. You've just put
- 4:50a lid on it. It's a bit like holding a
- 4:53door shut against the wind that's
- 4:55already blown it open.
- 4:58You're using a lot of energy, and the
- 5:00pressure behind the door never actually
- 5:03goes away. The second approach is
- 5:05reappraisal. This one starts much
- 5:08earlier. You're not trying to get rid of
- 5:11the emotions, you're changing how you
- 5:13see the situation in the first place.
- 5:17For example, before a hard conversation,
- 5:19instead of thinking, "This is about to
- 5:22be disaster," you can think, "Okay, this
- 5:25is an uncomfortable conversation, but
- 5:29it's just a conversation." Before an
- 5:31interview, instead to tell yourself,
- 5:33"They are judging every word I'm
- 5:35saying," you can think and say to your
- 5:37brain, "I'm here to talk about my work,
- 5:41and I'm also deciding whether this
- 5:44company is right for me." This situation
- 5:47hasn't changed, but the story your brain
- 5:49attached to it has changed. And because
- 5:52of that, your reaction can change, too.
- 5:55Let's talk about example almost everyone
- 5:58recognizes. Let's say you send someone a
- 6:00message,
- 6:01they read it, and they don't reply.
- 6:04Maybe just because they're busy. An hour
- 6:06passes, then two, then three, and your
- 6:09brain starts working overtime.
- 6:12He or she is ignoring me on purpose. I
- 6:15annoyed him or like her. That's it. It's
- 6:20over. He probably doesn't want to talk
- 6:23to me anymore. And now you are upset,
- 6:26even though objectively, only one thing
- 6:29actually happened. Someone read a
- 6:31message and hasn't replied yet.
- 6:33Everything else is your own guesswork.
- 6:36You can believe that first story and
- 6:38start spiraling, or you can pause and
- 6:41say to your brain, "I don't actually
- 6:44know yet why he hasn't replied, but
- 6:48maybe they're busy." That doesn't mean
- 6:50forcing yourself to think positively.
- 6:52Maybe he or she really is ignoring you,
- 6:56but until you actually have that
- 6:58information, it's just a one possible
- 7:01version of events, not a fact. And that
- 7:04small pause between the fact and your
- 7:07interpretation of it can change a lot.
- 7:10Another thing, which is quite
- 7:12interesting, why the poker face doesn't
- 7:15actually solve anything. So, let's go
- 7:18back to that spy in the movie, sitting
- 7:22in interrogation room, face perfectly
- 7:25calm, voice steady, zero visible
- 7:28emotion, and it looks like real control.
- 7:31But you can just switch the body off. If
- 7:34you're panicking on the inside while
- 7:37forcing calm on the outside, your body
- 7:40still reacts. Your heart still race.
- 7:43Your breathing gets shallow. Your muscle
- 7:47tense up. And meanwhile, your brain is
- 7:50burning energy trying to hide all of it.
- 7:52So, someone can look completely calm and
- 7:55walk out of that room completely wiped
- 7:59out. They won't calm. They were working
- 8:02incredibly hard to look calm. Those are
- 8:05two different things. There is another
- 8:08problem here, too. When you suppress a
- 8:10reaction, part of your attention gets
- 8:13pulled away to manage it. Picture a
- 8:15conflict. Someone says something
- 8:17hurtful, and in that exact moment,
- 8:20you're thinking, "Don't respond. Don't
- 8:22respond. Don't roll your eyes. Stay
- 8:24calm. Don't raise your voice. Don't let
- 8:27them see this got to you." Then, they
- 8:31ask, "So, what do you think?" And you
- 8:33realize you don't actually remember half
- 8:36of the conversation. Why? Because the
- 8:38whole time, part of your attention was
- 8:42busy controlling your own reaction
- 8:44instead of actually listening. This is
- 8:48especially costly in situations where
- 8:51you need to listen carefully and
- 8:53remember details. Negotiations,
- 8:56interviews, an important conversation
- 8:59with a partner, or conflict with someone
- 9:01who has information you actually need.
- 9:04So, let's talk about how spies train for
- 9:07high-pressure situations. And this is
- 9:10where it connects back to intelligence
- 9:12and military training. People who have
- 9:14to operate in extreme situations aren't
- 9:17trained to feel nothing. They're trained
- 9:21so that stress isn't a completely
- 9:24unfamiliar feeling anymore. There is a
- 9:26principle sometimes called stress
- 9:29inoculation. The idea is fairly simple.
- 9:33A person is gradually exposed to
- 9:34controlled stressful situations not to
- 9:38break them, but to help them learn how
- 9:41to move through pressure and recover
- 9:43from it afterward. Think of it like
- 9:46training for anything else. If you have
- 9:49never spoken in front of people before,
- 9:52the first few seconds on stage can feel
- 9:54terrifying, heart pounding, hands
- 9:58shaking, mind completely blank. But, if
- 10:01you have already rehearsed the talk a
- 10:03few times in front of the camera,
- 10:05friends, or small group of people, the
- 10:08real stage isn't total unknown anymore.
- 10:12Your brain gets a very specific signal.
- 10:15I have been in something like this
- 10:18before. I know what to do, and that
- 10:21changes your reaction completely. So,
- 10:24practice makes it perfect. Here is a
- 10:27tool that sounds too simple to actually
- 10:29work, breathing.
- 10:31When we are nervous, breathing always
- 10:34gets faster and shallow. So, before a
- 10:36hard conversation, it's often more
- 10:38useful to skip repeating, "I'm calm. I'm
- 10:41calm. I'm calm." to yourself, and
- 10:43instead just slow your breathing down
- 10:47and make the rhythm more even. A slow,
- 10:50longer exhale helps the most. You're not
- 10:54solving the problem, and you're not
- 10:56forcing yourself to stop being nervous.
- 10:58You're simply sending your body one
- 11:01clear signal, "I don't need to run right
- 11:04now." And sometimes that genuinely
- 11:06enough to stop anxiety from spiraling
- 11:09any further. Now, we can circle back to
- 11:14interrogations. If someone just sits
- 11:16there with a blank face, that doesn't
- 11:19mean they're actually calm. The body
- 11:22still reacts to stress, and the face is
- 11:25far from the only source of information.
- 11:28This is exactly why just don't show
- 11:30anything works a lot worse in real life
- 11:33that it does in the movies. What matters
- 11:36far more is how the person perceives the
- 11:40situation itself. And every question
- 11:42feels like you are about to catch me or
- 11:46one mistake and everything falls apart.
- 11:48Stress will just keep building and
- 11:50building. For example, in my military
- 11:52training, we supposed to train our brain
- 11:57not to think about any failures. So
- 12:00there was never plan B, what if I will
- 12:04fail? It was always important to focus
- 12:08on the success. But if someone has
- 12:11already rehearsed situations like this
- 12:13and sees what's happening as a familiar
- 12:15script, I'm being asked questions, I
- 12:18answer them
- 12:20one at a time, direction can be
- 12:22completely different. Not because they
- 12:25don't care, but because the brain is
- 12:28interpreting the exact same event in a
- 12:30completely different way. And here is
- 12:34where this whole idea becomes genuinely
- 12:37useful for you. You don't need to be a
- 12:40spy to use this exact same principle. A
- 12:43hard conversation with your partner is
- 12:45coming up. You can walk in thinking,
- 12:47"Oh, this is about to be huge fight." Or
- 12:50you can walk in thinking, "We are both
- 12:53frustrated right now, but we need to
- 12:56work through one specific issue
- 12:59together." A job interview, for example,
- 13:02you can think, "Oh, they're going to
- 13:05judge every single word I say."
- 13:07But instead say to your brain, "This is
- 13:10a conversation between two people. They
- 13:13are evaluating me, which is normal, but
- 13:15I'm also evaluating them."
- 13:18For example, for public speaking,
- 13:20instead of saying to yourself,
- 13:21"Everyone's going to notice I'm
- 13:24nervous." You can think instead, "I'm
- 13:27nervous because this actually matters to
- 13:29me." And that doesn't stop me from
- 13:32speaking and share my knowledge to
- 13:34people. You're not changing reality.
- 13:38You're changing the meaning your brain
- 13:40assigns to that reality.
- 13:43Now, here is the interesting part,
- 13:46manipulation.
- 13:48If this mechanism works on us, that
- 13:52means it can also be used against us.
- 13:56And honestly, you've probably run into
- 13:58this already. And
- 14:01advertisement, for example, says,
- 14:03"Today only sales 50%. Tomorrow it will
- 14:07be ended."
- 14:08A normal purchase suddenly turns into an
- 14:12urgent decision.
- 14:13Or
- 14:15"Only three spots left. Get it now."
- 14:19And now you are not asking, "Do I
- 14:22actually need it?"
- 14:24You're asking, "What if I miss out?"
- 14:28You're not just being shown a product.
- 14:31You're being handed a ready-made
- 14:33interpretation of the situation. This
- 14:36isn't pressure. It's an opportunity. If
- 14:39you don't decide now, you will regret
- 14:42it. And the faster you accept that
- 14:44story, the less time you leave yourself
- 14:47to ask the much simpler question, "Do I
- 14:51actually want or need this at all?" The
- 14:54same mechanism that helps you manage
- 14:56your own reaction can be used to manage
- 14:59someone's else's reaction.
- 15:01And that's exactly why it's worth
- 15:03understanding. So, let's talk about four
- 15:05things you can try today. Number one,
- 15:08when you feel a stronger reaction coming
- 15:10on, ask yourself, "What actually
- 15:12happened?" Not what it means, not why
- 15:16this person is doing this to me, just
- 15:18literally, "What happened?" This helps
- 15:20separate the fact from your
- 15:22interpretation of it. Second, ask
- 15:25yourself, "What story am I telling
- 15:27myself right now?" For example, they're
- 15:30going to ignore me on purpose, they are
- 15:33trying to humiliate me, I'm definitely
- 15:36going to fail this, this is about to go
- 15:39bad. Then try to find at least one other
- 15:42possible version. It doesn't have to be
- 15:44a positive one, just a different one.
- 15:47The third one is breathing. If you feel
- 15:49yourself starting to spiral, don't force
- 15:52yourself to stop being nervous. Just
- 15:55slow your breathing down, make the
- 15:57rhythm calmer, and focus especially on
- 16:00the exhale.
- 16:03>> [sighs and gasps]
- 16:05>> Fourth, rehearse the things that scare
- 16:07you. A hot conversation coming up? Talk
- 16:10through it out loud beforehand, in front
- 16:12of the mirror, for example. Or like a
- 16:14job interview? Answer the uncomfortable
- 16:17questions out loud in advance. A speech?
- 16:20Run through a public speech a few times.
- 16:23The more experience you build, the less
- 16:26unfamiliar the real moment will feel.
- 16:29So, let's get back to where we started.
- 16:32A secret agent, a spy, sitting in an
- 16:35interrogation room, completely calm on
- 16:38the outside. That's a beautiful image
- 16:41from the movies, but real emotions
- 16:43control is far more interesting than
- 16:46that. It's not I feel nothing, it's I
- 16:50feel this, and I understand exactly
- 16:53what's happening inside me. I can notice
- 16:56fear, I can notice anger, I can notice
- 16:59the urge to snap back immediately. But,
- 17:02between that emotion and my next action,
- 17:06I give myself at least a few seconds.
- 17:08And sometimes, those few seconds are
- 17:11enough to completely change the outcome
- 17:14of a conversation. So, next time you
- 17:16feel yourself getting swept up, don't
- 17:19tell yourself "Calm down."
- 17:20[clears throat] Ask yourself instead,
- 17:22"What actually just happened? What story
- 17:25have I started building around it? And
- 17:28do I really need to react the way I want
- 17:31to right now?" Because real control was
- 17:33never about having no emotions at all.
- 17:36It's about having the space to choose
- 17:39what you do next. If this changed how
- 17:42you think about pressure, please comment
- 17:45below and tell me which situation you
- 17:47want to handle differently. An argument,
- 17:51a job interview, a hard conversation
- 17:53with your partner, or with someone you
- 17:55love. And if you want to actually train
- 17:57this, not just understand it, but
- 18:00practice it, please join our Rosa Club
- 18:03and join our Zoom question and answers
- 18:07on a regular basis, where I walk you
- 18:10through the exact techniques I used in
- 18:12the field, adapted for real life.
- 18:15Staying steady under pressure, reading
- 18:17manipulation before it works on you, and
- 18:20choosing your response instead of
- 18:22reacting on autopilot. Please comment
- 18:25"control" below this video, and we will
- 18:27send you the link to join a Zoom call.
- 18:30Thank you so much for being here. Thank
- 18:32you for watching. Please subscribe, and
- 18:35see you in the next video.
- 18:38>> [music]
- 18:41[bell]
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