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0:00I really know that I have the ability to
0:03to shock the world.
0:07You're fight ready. I think he's fight
0:09ready to go up against you today. Him?
0:11Yeah. No. I finish him in the first
0:14round. Me personally, I would ask him
0:16like, "What's your favorite submission?
0:19I'm going to submit you with
0:21that. I have to do it." Did you say you
0:24want to make more money than Ronaldo? I
0:26want to make more money
0:27than everyone. Why? Why is that? And how
0:30are you going to do it? You win the
0:32medals in the training. You just go to
0:35collect them in the in the fight. That's
0:37what Michael would talk about, you know?
0:39Yeah. But at the end of the day, he was
0:40playing basketball. Now I'm fighting.
0:42What do you think about Zealinski Putin?
0:45There's how the world sees it. But then
0:47you're in the region. They see your face
0:50is saying something though.
0:52Look how fat he looks. Little pimple.
0:56Little pimple. Yeah. Party pimple.
0:58Pimplet,
1:00you're waiting for that phone call, huh?
1:01I'm waiting. I'm very excited to be
1:03honest. Sport is sport. We athletes. I
1:06respect all of that. But there are lines
1:09that you can't cross.
1:11The featherweight
1:13champion is that power. Wow. He's still
1:17down. He's still out cold.
1:20Did you ever think you were made? I feel
1:25sweet. I know this for me. Adam, what's
1:29your point? The future looks bright. My
1:32handshake is better than anything I ever
1:34sign. It's right here.
1:37You are one of my
1:45life that they have like business-wise,
1:48it's not the best place to Spain, but
1:50it's your favorite place no matter what.
1:52Like the quality of life that we have in
1:55Spain, you can find it anywhere in the
1:58world. Like for example in Miami, I love
2:00Miami. But we are recording. No. Yes,
2:04we're recording.
2:07Okay. So the quality, the quality of the
2:09food and everything, it's very different
2:11to Spain. Not close to Spain. Not close
2:13to Spain like. So the food is the best
2:14for you in Spain. The product then the
2:18traffic. I spent an hour to come here. I
2:21would be in and span this distance you
2:24you you I would be there like I don't
2:26know in 30 minutes. So how how much time
2:30we spend do you spend here in the
2:32traffic? That's quality of life like
2:35food traffic I don't know everything is
2:38so
2:39expensive you can you can make a lot of
2:41money. Are you very detailed? Like are
2:43you a very detailed guy? Like you know
2:44personalitywise in business uh you know
2:48when when you try to profile somebody
2:51you're recruiting somebody like let me
2:53see what personality this person is.
2:54Extremely analytical, extremely
2:57structured, organized like you had a
2:59little bit of thing you had to go clean
3:00it up with the shirt, right? Extremely
3:02actionoriented. Let's go out. What are
3:03we going to do? Let's beat them. Let's
3:04competitive, you know? And then
3:06relationship. Very good with people,
3:08right? You care about the relationship
3:10and all that stuff. Are you more
3:12analytical, structured, systematized,
3:14actionoriented, competitive or more
3:16relationship with friends and family?
3:19More relationship with friends and
3:20family and I'm more with with energy
3:22like my with feelings. It depends how I
3:25feel with the with the person because I
3:28can have a lot of information for
3:30example about someone but then I met him
3:33in person and and the feeling I have
3:35with him is completely different you
3:37know. So yeah, very interesting. I asked
3:41that because you know when you're saying
3:43uh quality of life to to think quality
3:46of life of the conversation we're
3:47having, you have to be analytical a
3:49little bit to pay attention to the
3:51details to say it took me one hour to
3:53come up but it would have been 30
3:54minutes where I live. You know, you got
3:57to because I have two kids. If you if
3:59you are raising a a kids, you got to
4:02take them to the school. You got to take
4:04them to to different activities. So if I
4:06have to spend between every activities
4:09an hour in the traffic, that's a lot of
4:11time for me. So I at the end of the day
4:14I I got to have to take something from
4:17them to optimize that time. So I look at
4:22it from time time wise. Very And you're
4:25very active with your kids. Are you very
4:27involved? Mike and my boy, he he he
4:30doesn't live with with me. My girl,
4:32she's eight months months old, but we
4:35are like planning everything now. Like,
4:38where are we going to live? Where are we
4:39going to rise them? How we going to do
4:41it? So, I'm planning. I'm 20 years old.
4:44And and you're just getting started, you
4:46know, when I'm getting started. You're
4:47just getting started. So, you're you're
4:49what? You're 16 and0. You you won the
4:52145 after winning against Vog, which
4:55wasn't, you know, the fight was
4:57fireworks is what did you watch the
4:58fight? Of course. Yeah, it was
4:59fireworks. And then afterwards you give
5:03up the belt to go to the legendary 155,
5:06right? Where everybody that's like the
5:09weight everybody knows it's the category
5:11to be part. I don't even know if if you
5:13look up Rob who are the top five biggest
5:15fights. I think 545 it's all the
5:18lightweight, right? Yeah, it is all
5:19lightweight cuz it's Connor Kabib. I
5:22think it's Conor. Uh
5:25it's I think he's retired. You think
5:27he's retired? Yeah, I think so. He's not
5:29going to come back. What do you think
5:30happened to him? You think it's the
5:32money and the success? Uh, I think that
5:35he doesn't have the motivation anymore.
5:37He he he done a great things in the
5:40sport, but he doesn't have the
5:42motivation. He he he got I think a lot
5:45of money. He's spending also a lot of
5:47money. So, I don't know. I don't know
5:49him personally. I don't know him. You
5:50guys have never met? Never. So, there's
5:53no relationship? No. Cuz he said some
5:55stuff about you and you've said some
5:56stuff about him. Yeah. But nothing good.
6:00Yeah.
6:02Nothing. Nothing good. So if if right
6:05now you guys were to fight like right
6:06now, right now, let's just say in two
6:08weeks he gets a call. Yeah. And a fight
6:10happens. You're fight ready. You think
6:11he's fight ready to go up against you
6:13today? Him? Yeah. No, I don't think so.
6:16What he what he did in the last two
6:18weeks?
6:20Party, drinking beers. What I did in the
6:23last two two weeks, I trained twice a
6:26day. Um, I don't know. I'm an active
6:29fighter. I defend my my belt a couple of
6:31months ago. When was the last time he
6:34fought? He fought, I don't know, three
6:36years ago, four years ago.
6:39He's not in shape. Your peak, like right
6:43now, you you Some would even say you're
6:46not even at your peak yet. Yeah. Cuz
6:48you're still getting better, right?
6:49You're you're 28. How old are you? 28.
6:5228 years old. So some of these guys,
6:54they peaked at 32, 33, 31. That's the
6:59age, right? You're at 28. Your peak
7:02versus Connor's peak. Who wins that
7:03fight? At 155, let's just say,
7:07my answer is going to be always me.
7:10Every day, all day, I'm going to bet
7:12that guy no matter when and where. But
7:15if you ask him, he's going to tell you
7:17probably the same. So you know how it
7:20works. This is sport. No one's going to
7:22give up. When when you were coming up,
7:23was he somebody you looked up to? Were
7:25you like, you know, was Connor your guy?
7:27Were you a fan of his when you were
7:28coming up as a young fighter? Yeah, of
7:30course. Of course. He inspired a lot of
7:33fighters. He changed the sport. He did
7:36so many great things for for for the
7:38sport. You can say like anything
7:40different about that. But he he he like
7:43little by little he changed his his
7:47values. He changed everything. All
7:49right. Right now, what what does he
7:53represent? I always used to say like
7:55drugs,
7:57alcohol, bad
7:59lifestyle, but who gives a [ __ ] Do you
8:02do you watch closely to make sure you
8:05like as you're going through it, are you
8:08also watching and very detailed on the
8:11decisions you're making to see how
8:14you're living? Because you're watching,
8:15okay, this is what this guy did right,
8:16that's what this guy did wrong. Are you
8:18studying everybody to see what for
8:20yourself to be protected of? Of course.
8:22Of course. I always try to develop my
8:24skills. I always try to have more
8:27abilities because at the end of the day,
8:30you skills make you rich, right? Not the
8:32money. Because if you don't have the
8:34skills, you don't have the right
8:35mentality, you are poor. So, I all the
8:38time try to develop my skills and my
8:42abilities. and and when when going with
8:45um someone like you because I think you
8:47said one time you said you want to make
8:48did you say you want to make more money
8:50than Ronaldo? I think you said you want
8:51to make more money than Ronaldo. I want
8:52to make more money
8:54than everyone. Why? Why is that? And how
8:57are you going to do it?
9:00Uh okay, let's switch that a little bit.
9:04It's not it's not like I want to be
9:07better than someone. It's like if
9:09someone could do it, I want to do it
9:10also. Got it? And if no one did it, I
9:13want to be the first one to do it. So
9:15this is the mental. It's not to look up
9:17to some to look down to someone, right?
9:20It's not because of that. It's I want to
9:22experience that that also how it feels
9:26to be the the number one guy.
9:29Well, why not? Right. You're saying
9:31pay-wise. Yeah. Why not? Do you have a
9:34strategy on how you want to do it? Have
9:35you thought about it? Have you thought
9:37about what method you're going to have?
9:38I I looked at the pay on what you've
9:41gotten. Earlier, we were talking to the
9:42guys and uh when I look at this, your
9:45first fight uh I don't know if it's your
9:47first fight, but one of your first
9:48fights that you made
9:4938,500 October 10, 2020. Then you made
9:5350K, then 75, then 90, then you made 154
9:56with Bryce Mitchell, one of your good
9:57friends. And
10:00then and then you made 200,000 with Josh
10:02EMTT. and you made 532
10:05uh fighter of the year 2024 with Vog and
10:08then you made
10:102.44 million with Holloway. So roughly
10:13courier earnings 3.5 million and you
10:16know this is this is a very good
10:18trajectory if this is a stock this
10:20there's some real good things around the
10:22corner for you right fight wise it's not
10:24only fightwise it's it's also a
10:28business-wise that's why I try to
10:30develop all the time my my skills you
10:32know whatever because at some point I'm
10:34going to retire and I'm going to make a
10:36a living from from something else
10:39something else. So Got it. How much
10:41longer you think you'll be fighting?
10:42You're 28 now. Till I enjoy. To be
10:45honest, before I used to be like maybe
10:48when I I'm 30 or 32, but now till I
10:53enjoy I will be will be active. How old
10:57was Kabib when he retired? I think 32.
10:5932. Was he 32? 32. Yeah, you're right.
11:0232. September 20, 1988 when he retired.
11:05Interesting. But right now, you're
11:07enjoying it. You see yourself going for
11:08a few more years. Exactly. Okay. Like
11:11now I have a new motivation, new
11:13division. I have a lot of guys there. So
11:17why
11:18not what's what's the what's Because I
11:21watched uh I had Kabib on I don't know
11:24when it was. I did an interview with
11:25Kabib four years ago. Could have been
11:28three years ago. Maybe four or five
11:30years ago. Probably four years ago. See,
11:31pull up the date, Rob, to see when this
11:33is. What is the date on this here?
11:36August 1st. 21st 2023. Okay. I thought
11:39it was a lot longer than that. So we
11:40this that's what Rob year and a half
11:42ago. Yep. Soon to be two years. Okay. I
11:45had him on and I watched uh uh there's a
11:48clip. Rob, if you have the clip uh of uh
11:51Kabib being asked about you and he's
11:55asking a question about whether you're
11:58ready and I'm sure you've seen this
11:59yourself. I'm sure you've seen the
12:00comments that he made. I don't know if
12:01you've seen it or not. If you haven't,
12:03Rob, I'm going to text it over to you.
12:05There's an interview he's being asked
12:07about whether you're ready to fight um
12:11you know whether you've earned the right
12:13to fight for the number one spot. Have
12:15you seen this clip yet of Kabib talking
12:16about you or no? Um I I have watched
12:19some of them. I watch with with Henry.
12:22Yeah, you've seen this. Okay, play this
12:24clip off for the audience if they
12:25haven't seen it. Go for it. He said,
12:27"You know what? I want to go up to 155
12:29lbs, fight the number one contender, and
12:31then if he wins that, then he fights
12:32Islam." I think that's good, brother. I
12:34think he deserves I think if you move up
12:36and you beat somebody like Dustin Poria
12:38or Charles Alivera he's next. Why not?
12:40Because there is nobody. So you don't
12:42think right now Ilia deserves a shot at
12:45155 lbs without fighting in 155 without?
12:48No, I don't agree because Islam already
12:50give chance and people talk bad about
12:53like oh he fight two time with
12:55volcanoski but UFC push this fight and
12:57this fight was good in first fight but
13:00why Islam have to give three time chance
13:02for 145 champion why it's not fair for
13:05155 pounds right right but but if he
13:08move up and he beat somebody like
13:10Charles of course you know what I think
13:12I think he can beat
13:14I think he can beat I like Charles but I
13:16think so too no I I think
13:21he's saying
13:23that I don't deserve
13:25it, but he's saying from a fighter's p
13:29perspective, but as a promoter, it it
13:32works a little bit different. So now
13:35you're thinking Dana. Yeah. Got it. So
13:38you think Dana would be excited about
13:40you fighting Dustin or Charles? I don't
13:43think so. I don't think so. Right. That
13:45will be a making a step back. I think
13:49yeah, I understand what he's saying, but
13:52I tell you who I want to see as a fan.
13:54I'm talking purely as a fan. Okay. If
13:57there is the fight with you and Islam
13:59Mhm. that could be one of the biggest
14:01pay-per-views if that takes place. I
14:04think so. Also, look, Henry Sahula, you
14:08you watch him in the video, he moved up.
14:10He fought he fought for the second belt.
14:13Connor, he fought for the second belt.
14:15George St. He fought for the second
14:17belt. You have I can like mention you so
14:19many names that fought for that second
14:22belt. Why why not
14:25me that had that opportunity to fight
14:28for the next weight class uh world
14:31championship for the
14:33belt? So right now with where you're at,
14:36are you are you wanting your next to be
14:38that? I'm sure that that's going to
14:40happen. I'm I'm fighting for the belt.
14:42Okay. So, so right now you gave the belt
14:45back uh at one point. I I gave it
14:48because I didn't want to hold the
14:49division, right? This is what I did. I
14:52could hold it for a year, year and a
14:54half, but I didn't because at the end I
14:58I knew it that I wouldn't fight again in
15:01145, but I could have the position where
15:04I would say like, listen, I'm holding
15:06the belt till you give me the chance to
15:09fight for the for for the next weight
15:11class. uh belt, but I'm like I'm okaying
15:16the belt because they gave me they were
15:19that was all easy. Who is the ranking
15:21right now in 155? Uh the number one is
15:24Charles Oliva and the the champion
15:28is Islam. I don't know who is the the
15:32number two.
15:34Can you look at that rap? Uh, I'm
15:36curious now because I is Charles is
15:40number Oh, Arman is number two. Arman
15:42number two. So, would you fight an Arman
15:44before you go like let's just say Dana
15:46says I want you to fight Arman before
15:47you fight Islam. Would you entertain
15:49that? He wouldn't he wouldn't tell me
15:51that. He wouldn't tell you that. No.
15:54Dana would say Islam.
15:56He would say for the belt. He would say
15:58for the belt. Yeah. I think so as well
16:01because you're undefeated. Of course.
16:03Yeah. There's no way that I have to
16:06fight to to the number one contender. I
16:08have to fight directly for the belt.
16:11How soon you think that would happen?
16:14Personally, I don't know. I hope in
16:17summer, maybe in September. I don't
16:20know. Whenever it happens, it's going to
16:22be How does it normally happen? I'm not
16:24in your world. Do you do you do you
16:26normally make the call and tell Dana or
16:29do you kind of do the podcast and kind
16:30of find a way that the video makes it to
16:32Dana for him to know or does he call you
16:33and tell you? It never works like that.
16:35They call you they they tell you like I
16:37need you in this day in this place. Do
16:41you have a warning or no? They just kind
16:42of call you and tell you I got to fight
16:43for you. I got to fight for you. Okay.
16:45This how it works. Of course, they they
16:49like have a conversation with you
16:51because they want you to feel also
16:53comfortable with the day, with the
16:55place, with with the opponent, with with
16:57everything. Got it. They they figure out
16:59with you and you go after that. But at
17:02least what what they do always with the
17:07champions is that they give you at least
17:10tweaks of of preparation. You know, if
17:14you're a champion, they give you that 12
17:15week respect. Yeah. Yeah. Because you
17:17need a training camp. You need to figure
17:18out you how you going to do it, how you
17:20going to organize your everything. I
17:23don't know. You got to move your whole
17:24team. Let me let me ask this question
17:27for someone like you. You give me the
17:29idea. You're very meticulous. You're
17:30very detailed.
17:33Are you is your current training a
17:36regular training or is your current
17:39training specific training targeted for
17:42your next fight in Islam? like
17:44psychologically in your mind are you
17:46you're already there. Yeah, I have two
17:49names in my mind right now and and we
17:52focus all trainings in two names. It's
17:55Charles Charles and Islam in case if he
17:58says you're fighting Charles. Yeah. in
18:00case that he's he says that I'm I I got
18:03to fight Charles. I'm ready for that
18:07because I'm I'm doing a lot of like we
18:09watching his fights seeing his
18:12weaknesses where he's doing like I don't
18:15know where he's dangerous all that we
18:17study him the same thing with Islam he
18:19saw Paul he moves a little bit different
18:22he tends to go for the takedowns so we
18:25are preparing I'm so excited that's why
18:28me if someone asked to me like I would
18:30love to fight with with Islam that will
18:33be a a great one because I really know
18:36that I have the the ability
18:40to to shock the world because I know
18:43that for me it's going to be like I know
18:46that I I'm going to beat him but for the
18:48world it's going to be like just what
18:51happened. The same thing that happened
18:53with with Wal, the same thing that
18:55happened with with Max Holloway. No one
18:57never knocked him out. No one did it and
19:01it was like a surprise for for everyone.
19:04But me personally, I always knew it. You
19:06always knew before before I walk in in
19:10the octagon, I was like, thank thanks
19:12God to give me the opportunity to be the
19:14first one to knock him out. Where does
19:16the confidence come from? From hard work
19:18and
19:19dedication from and from God. I think
19:22so. And I'm going to sound a little bit
19:26repetitive, but I always prefer
19:30to to think
19:32about to have the kind of thoughts that
19:36make me feel happy, that empowers me
19:39because I uh I feel fear fe uh fear of
19:45course I do. But both of them fear and
19:49and faith demand you to believe that uh
19:51you never saw. I
19:54always prefer to believe in something
19:56that makes me feel happy. Fear. Yeah.
19:59Fear. So is you feel fear while you're
20:03going into the ring or at that point
20:04you're not when you are in backstage you
20:06feel that? You feel fear backstage? Of
20:09course. Adrenaline right here. Of course
20:10you do. Everyone does it. Everyone. How
20:13do you deal with it? How do you deal
20:14with it? I I use it like uh from a
20:18positive way. I use it from
20:22like I don't
20:24know the first thing that happens where
20:27where you are in backstage you you might
20:29your mind used to take you to to the
20:32octagon and in reality you are in the
20:34backstage and I'm like listen right now
20:37I'm with with my people wrapping my
20:39hands warm up I don't know whatever I'm
20:42doing but I'm not fighting with with
20:44anyone so don't worry about anything
20:47just save that energy energy because you
20:50are going to need that that
20:51concentration that focus inside the
20:53octagon. So if you are able
20:56to don't let your mind to travel to the
21:00future, you are ahead of of your
21:02opponents. When you're backstage and
21:04your anxiety goes, is there anybody you
21:07want around you that brings you down?
21:09No. Or is it like your brother calms you
21:11down? Is it a coach that calms you down?
21:14Do you just want to be left alone to
21:15yourself to have the conversations in
21:17your mind yourself? myself, nobody else.
21:19Nobody else. I just go I watch myself in
21:22the mirror and I'm like, "This is the
21:24the the person you have to beat." The
21:26person in the mirror. Yeah. This is the
21:28person. Yeah. This is the person you
21:29have. Are you listen to any music or no?
21:33I don't like whatever. Like, oh, I play
21:36the music. Someone from my team plays
21:38the music. I don't have any uh
21:43I don't know how to say it in English.
21:45Ritual. Superstition. Oh, superstition.
21:48Got it. You're not superstitious. Yeah.
21:50You're not at all. Not at all. So, you
21:52will step on a line. You won't step over
21:53a line. You're not If you touch
21:55something, you won't have to touch it
21:56three times. Exactly. You're not like
21:58that at all. No. No. No. Not at all. No,
22:00not at all. Why not? It's interesting.
22:03Because I don't like to to depend on
22:05anything. I'm like, you wake me up at
22:094:00, you tell me that I got a fight
22:12with someone, I do it. I don't care.
22:15So that's why it's like I don't need my
22:18shorts. If I don't have my shorts, I
22:21have a bad lack or if I'm not wearing
22:23this or he's not able to come to watch
22:26my fight or whatever. I don't know.
22:29Nothing. You're that ice cold. Mentally,
22:32you're that ice cold. They call it ice
22:34cold. That's great. I don't know me.
22:37Nothing gets through. Nothing. I can
22:39walk like I can go alone. Like just
22:42imagine that my coaches can't come with
22:45me, my my brother can't come with me, no
22:47one. And I have to go alone. No problem.
22:50Can anybody get under your skin? Does
22:53anybody get under your skin?
22:56You know what that means? Like when you
22:57know what I'm saying? Like somebody that
22:59knows to say
23:00something that triggers they see your
23:04face is saying something though.
23:08I think the only person is my wife
23:10probably.
23:13She's the only person. No one else. I
23:16think seriously, I think so. That's very
23:19good. Yeah. You you know because
23:21uh you know that that is that is a a big
23:25strength of a lot of uh great ones were
23:28like that. Some of it wanted it. Some
23:31people wanted like Michael Jordan's was
23:34he he wanted you to say something to him
23:36and then he would convince himself that
23:38you said something about him really bad
23:40and then he wanted to kill you. That's
23:42what Michael would talk about, you know.
23:44Yeah. But at the end end of the day, he
23:46was playing basketball, right? And I
23:48have enough of that energy that I want
23:50to I want to go in and take his head
23:52off, you know? I'm fighting. What are
23:55you telling yourself when you're looking
23:56at your opponent? Are you telling
23:57anything yourself about the opponent
23:59right before the fight or no? Before the
24:00fight, no. I'm just telling to myself
24:02that I need myself called to be
24:04calculated.
24:06This how I need
24:08myself emotions underground. I don't
24:11need my emotions at that moment. Who
24:13taught you this? Who who shared this
24:15with you? Who is it? A mentor, a coach,
24:18somebody that book or brother or family
24:21or No, it's just you. Maybe I read it
24:23somewhere because I used to read a lot
24:25of books, but it was like I always had
24:29that kind of mentality and also I I I
24:34proed that it was working for me in the
24:36in the fights. So all the time I go in
24:39I'm like my emotions are under zero
24:43underground
24:45control very calm. Yeah. Because you
24:48know when you when you think about
24:49rituals right like you're saying
24:51superstitious I remember uh back in the
24:53days Diego Sanchez I don't know if you
24:55remember Diego Sanchez one of my
24:56favorite guys to watch Yes. Yes. Yes.
25:00And he was just fire young exciting uh
25:04uh uh Ali used to predict rounds. I'm
25:07going to beat you in this round. Right.
25:08Tyson used to look at the person in the
25:10eyes until the person looked away. Like
25:12he wanted to kind of do that. Tyson Fury
25:13would sing after the fight and he would
25:16like to sing for uh the fighters. Manny
25:19Pacquiao would take ice showers, ice
25:20cold showers and pray before the fight.
25:22There was another guy uh uh uh Leoto or
25:25something. Leoto Machado where he would
25:28drink urine before a fight. I don't know
25:29if you've heard this this or not. Very
25:31weird stuff that you think about before
25:33fights. You don't have no rituals like
25:35that. No ritual. I I used to pray, of
25:37course. I used to pray and I used to
25:41Yeah, I used to pray. This is what I do
25:43all the time. I wake up in the morning,
25:45I pray and I feel thankful about
25:49everything that's happening to me for
25:50the opportunity and I thank the gods
25:54before I'm getting the victory. I'm I'm
25:56I'm thanking to him like thank you for
25:59the victory. As a kid, did you watch
26:02something a lot? like are you, you know,
26:05uh, do you link your mindset to like a
26:08Rocky? Did you watch Gladiator? Were you
26:10a movie person? Did you watch somebody
26:12as a fighter coming up? Did you aspire
26:14to be somebody? Did you look up to
26:15someone? What was it for you as a kid?
26:18As a kid, my my coach in in Gregoral
26:22wrestling, he used to say like this,
26:25like you you were you win the medals in
26:29the training. you just go to collect
26:31them in the in in the fight. So this is
26:35like my mentality, I think. So I work so
26:39hard. I know everything that I did that
26:42I did everything that I could and
26:44there's no way that I'm not going to
26:46walk out from that octagon with the
26:49victory. This how I
26:51feel
26:54really. What's the one fight where you
26:58got a call for a fight? I think it was
26:59two weeks out where you got kicked on
27:02the side. Who Who was that? The the and
27:05Jai Herbert. That's right. J Herbert.
27:07And I think even Rogan talks about this
27:09where he explains where you got kicked
27:12and you know and then everybody's like,
27:15"Oh my god, this thing's done with." And
27:16then boom, boom, boom, it's over with.
27:18Yeah. Right. Your opponents who you've
27:20gone up against, who have you fought
27:23where you sat there and when they hit
27:25you, obviously let's just say he's one
27:27of them. Who hit you where you felt the
27:29pain or you saw their technical skills
27:32to say, "This guy's legit. This guy's
27:34very capable." Your opponents, people
27:36you've gone against. The last two
27:39opponents I had, Wal and Max Holloway,
27:41they both were very skillful. What was
27:45different about Max versus Vog?
27:51What was the difference between Max and
27:53W? Good question. I never thought about
27:55that.
27:56What was the
27:59difference? I don't know. What was the
28:04difference? I felt both of them like the
28:07same way. Fast, very
28:11calculated, like they are smart people
28:13inside the octagon. They have that f IQ.
28:16You know what I mean? Normally I used to
28:18go inside the octagon and I'm I feel
28:22that I'm the smartest guy but with them
28:26I felt that they were smart
28:29also because you can be very powerful
28:33very fast but if you don't have that
28:35mentality if you don't have that fight
28:37IQ
28:39what what does that mean? What does
28:40fight IQ mean? What is being smart in
28:42the right to use the technique at the
28:44right time you
28:47know may you you have a lot of
28:50information one one thing is what you
28:52know and the other thing is what you do
28:54with what you know you know what I mean
28:57to use it at the right time so that
29:01that's for me the fact that you when you
29:03need something and you use it at the
29:05right time for example I don't know if I
29:08feel that I can beat someone with only
29:10jabs
29:12I go and I I I don't switch the strategy
29:16in in the whole fight. I do jobs job. I
29:19don't know how to explain it to you.
29:20It's it's a little bit difficult to to
29:22explain it
29:24from from a fighter's
29:26perspective. Yeah. But basically, it's
29:29to choose the right technique at the
29:31right time. And they were doing that.
29:34They know how to
29:42u I don't know how to say how to say
29:44that. Roberto, can you text that to
29:47me? Aensia.
29:50Yeah. Take away the patience from you,
29:52you know, because you go in, you're very
29:55patient. You're very patient. But there
29:57are some kind of fighters that have the
29:59ability to to take you from from your
30:02place, you know, and to make you play
30:05day game.
30:07Who who who did you fight that would
30:09talk to you and try to play mind games?
30:11Did anybody talk to you in the ring? No,
30:14no one talk to me in the ring. Usually
30:16they don't have time to talk to me
30:23because I put so much pressure of on on
30:25them that they don't have the time. They
30:28don't have even time to to breathe
30:30probably. What was it like fighting
30:32Bryce Mitchell?
30:37to be honest, he surprised me because he
30:40was the first person to take me
30:43down and he had that like proper
30:46technique for for
30:48takedowns. But in I don't know, I just
30:52felt that I break him like mentally,
30:55physically, everywhere. He he was known
30:59as a great grappler. I submit him like
31:03what you want me to do with
31:07you. He's like I don't know crazy guy.
31:10The earth is flat and what? Okay, just
31:13suppose that the earth is flat and what
31:15we do with that information, bro? The
31:17[ __ ] you talking about?
31:20So, for the record, you don't think the
31:21earth is flat?
31:23To be honest, I think that it's not flat
31:26because this is what they teach me since
31:29I was a kid. But even if it's flat, what
31:33what it change to me? What I do with
31:35that information? Okay. Uh someone comes
31:38to me, the the earth is flat. Okay, you
31:40convinced me. And what what happens now?
31:44What what are you interested in? What
31:46other things are you interested in
31:47outside of fighting?
31:50I want to I want to serve the most
31:52amount of of of people that I can. I
31:55want to Yeah. serve, inspire, motivate
31:58people. You know, again, I I asked that
32:01because right after you say, "What is it
32:03to me to know about whether the Earth is
32:06flat or not? What am I going to do with
32:07that information?" It it's it's the way
32:10I hear it is I don't need additional
32:13information in my brain. I just need to
32:14focus on the stuff that I need to study
32:16that's going to get my life to the next
32:17level. Everything else exactly, I don't
32:19need any distractions. Is that kind of
32:20how you see it? 100%. That's how I see
32:23it. like what I do with what with that
32:26information like sometime sometimes pe
32:29people want to convince you about
32:31something is like okay you're right and
32:33what what happens now what I do with
32:37that my life change I get better I make
32:42more money I don't know what happens
32:44nothing so what
32:47it's true though it's true to stay
32:49locked in and it's not easy to stay
32:51locked in Um, athletes. Are there any
32:55athletes that you now have a
32:56relationship with that they're high
32:58level athletes, competitors from
33:00different sports, soccer, football? Do
33:02any one of them did any one of them call
33:04you? And if yes, when did that happen?
33:06What was the first fight where people
33:07said this guy's
33:09special?
33:11Uh, I think that since the moment that I
33:14fought, I don't know, I when I made two
33:17fights in the UFC probably. Yeah. After
33:20that, I I I start two fights. After two
33:23fights in the UFC, I start feeling that
33:26people was reaching me out like calling
33:29me, texting me, wanted to meet me. Yeah.
33:32After two fights,
33:35of course, once you become a world
33:38champion, it's different. You defend
33:40your belt, it's different. You were the
33:42fighter of the year last year, 2024.
33:45I think that it was Pereira. They gave
33:47it to Pereira. They gave it to Pereira.
33:50Yeah. Why do I see 2024? sports fighter
33:52of the year. You
33:54because many people gave it to me but
33:58they gave it to to Alex Pere also.
34:02One or Tai who's Oh, they gave it
34:05to both of you. Oh, they give it to both
34:09of you. Yeah, I got it. Okay. And you
34:12there's a picture of the two of you guys
34:13together. Yeah. Yeah. So, you guys you
34:15guys are friends. You guys have a
34:16relationship? Not friends. I met him in
34:18in Australia. We we meet each other for
34:21for first time there in Sydney. I went
34:25there to watch my my brother fight.
34:27Yeah. Do you watch the sport yourself?
34:30Like are you also interested in watching
34:32the sport and how other people do or
34:33like this weekend Miami this fight, you
34:36know, there's going to be UFC fight
34:37here. Are you somebody that's interested
34:39in how other people will perform?
34:42Not always, but uh in this event
34:45specifically, may I watch it? But
34:48normally I I watch a lot of fights
34:50because I have a promotion in Spain and
34:52now I started to to watch a lot of
34:54fights because I I want to discover new
34:56talents and so business you're thinking
34:59from the business side. Yeah. Got it.
35:01Okay. So this card that's coming up,
35:03which fighter are you excited about?
35:04This this uh weekend's card. Uh I'm
35:07excited. I'm excited about uh we have in
35:11in the fight card against Diego Lopez.
35:14We have Patty Puml against Mike
35:18Chandler. Jai Rodriguez is like either
35:22if he's fighting or not, no one gives a
35:25[ __ ]
35:26Uh Bryce Mitchell, the same thing with
35:30uh John Sila. I don't know what to say.
35:33He's a upcoming fighter.
35:37And that fight I don't know. Danny get
35:41the same thing. So which which one of
35:43them? Go back up top. Rob. So the Patty
35:47one. Patty Chandler should be exciting.
35:50Yeah, he needs to win. Who? Chandler.
35:53No, no, no. He's he's fighting with with
35:56a veteran, you know. He needs to win.
35:59And hopefully he he he w he wins
36:03because May, who knows, may in the
36:06future we we face each other. It could
36:09be a great fight. You and Patty. Me and
36:11Patty.
36:13I'm looking forward for for that fight.
36:15Did Did some Was it something happened
36:17with you and Patty or Yeah, something
36:19happened with you guys, right? What was
36:20that all about? I saw the video.
36:23He said some stupid [ __ ] about Georgia,
36:26about about my country. He said
36:28something like, "Now I understand why
36:31Russia is throwing bombs to Georgia."
36:34And like, bro, you never live in a
36:37situation where you your country had a
36:39war. I lived there in 2008. Don't joke
36:43with that.
36:46Got it. So that's what the context was
36:48about. Yeah. And what prompted him to
36:51say something like that? I don't know to
36:53be honest. I don't know.
36:58Wow. You know, he said that to your face
37:01or he said that on Twitter? No, he said
37:02that on Twitter and I was like, I got
37:05it. I And then you went and you were
37:07guys were at the same event and you ran
37:09into each other. Exactly. Oh, I got I
37:11saw him and I went to after him like
37:15boom. And it wasn't promotional. It was
37:17it was it was very real raw because it's
37:19not like it's a fight you guys are
37:20promoting together. How can you say this
37:22kind of stoppage [ __ ] You know what I
37:24mean? You can't joke. Sport is sport. We
37:26athletes. I respect all of that. But
37:30there are lines that you can't cross.
37:32You know the people's life are are
37:35involved in in in this joke. You can't
37:38do that. Where is this at? Where is this
37:40location? In London. This is in London.
37:42How long ago? Oh, this was a while back.
37:44This is three years ago. Yeah, three
37:45years ago. Okay, got it. So, hopefully
37:48hopefully he puts himself in the spot
37:51where we can share the octagon one day
37:56and he's going to realize. So, you want
38:00to fight him?
38:02I want to fight him. Of course, I want
38:05it. Of course. while I'm a active
38:08fighter. If he we right now we are in
38:11the same weight
38:13division. Yeah. Look how fat he looks.
38:18But he does that quite often, right? He
38:20puts on the weight and he trims down. He
38:21puts on the weight and he trims down.
38:23Pimple. That's part of his uh little
38:25pimple. Little pimple. Yeah. Party
38:28pimple. Pimplet.
38:31Yeah. He gets so fat. I don't know.
38:37anti-athletic and to be honest I don't
38:39know what to tell you if he's a good
38:40fighter he's not a good fighter some
38:43sometimes he his fight sucks sometimes
38:47he does something that looks good some I
38:50don't know he's a very average average
38:53level of fighter let's say like that so
38:55so you think the fight oh wow I is that
38:59AI or is that real right no that's real
39:01he gets fats
39:04There's no way that that's a do. I don't
39:06I don't Click on the picture, Rob. I
39:10mean, I knew he put on weight, but
39:11that's a lot of weight right there.
39:13Yeah. Oh, wow. That looks like a real
39:15photo.
39:17That's That's not his brother or like a
39:18relative or that's him. No, I'm not
39:20being funny. Can you see if that's
39:21actually him, Rob? Ugly as [ __ ] Wow.
39:24That is that's unbelievable.
39:26Yeah. I mean, you know, there was a
39:28bodybuilder uh his name is Kevin Levon.
39:31uh Levrone, one of the greatest
39:32physiques in bodybuilding ever. To me, I
39:35think it's a top five physique of all
39:36time. He used to just completely get
39:39skinny. This is his physique, by the
39:41way. One of the greatest bodybuilders of
39:42all time back in the days in the 90s, he
39:44played second place multiple times. He
39:46should have won a couple of them. Never
39:47ended up winning one. He gets big also.
39:50He gets super big, then he gets super
39:52small, and then look what would happen.
39:54And then he gets super big, and he would
39:55get super small. But a different kind of
39:58a uh this is the opposite of what
39:59Patty's doing.
40:01Um very different story with what
40:03Patty's doing, but it was a massive uh
40:07body transformation. Uh it is. Yeah. So
40:11if other weight classes when it comes
40:14down to fighters, like who do you like
40:16to watch? Is there anyone you like to
40:17watch? Like did you like to watch, you
40:20know, Jon Jones? Are you who were who
40:22were some of the guys you personally
40:23like to watch fight?
40:26Let let's say like that I would pay a
40:29pay-per-view for to
40:32watch someone fight right
40:38now. I don't know who it it it will be.
40:42Mab I love him watch
40:46I love watching him fight his last
40:49fight. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. You
40:52got to watch that fight. Did you watch
40:54it? me. Who was it with?
40:58With the cousin of of Kabib
41:03Abdul. Bro, can you pull up the fight? I
41:06watch his fights. Whoever he fought, I
41:08probably
41:10Omaro. That fight was amazing. I watched
41:14that fight I don't know how many times.
41:16I love Really? Yeah.
41:20Can you see who he fought last? I'm
41:21curious now.
41:24No, he fought Umar Numar Romelo.
41:28Yeah. And he's fighting now again the
41:32rematch against Shauna Amali.
41:35Yeah, of course I watch his fight. That
41:36was a great fight. That was a great
41:37fight. Yeah. Yeah. You you wonder. So
41:40for you, you say you you're selective on
41:42who you would pay to watch fight
41:43pay-per-view. Yeah.
41:46So your style coming up, what what makes
41:49you as a fighter different than your
41:51peers? You started training very early
41:53if I'm not mistaken. I think you started
41:54training at five years old to do
41:56wrestling. I start with you though. Got
41:59it. Then we moved to from Germany to
42:04Georgia. We start with with the Greco
42:07wrestling. Then with when I was 15 years
42:10old, we moved to Spain. And finally we
42:13we start with with MMA with the mixed
42:15martial arts. At 15 years old, you're
42:19living where? You're living in Georgia.
42:22At 15, I was living in Georgia and we
42:24moved to Spain. Okay. So, what was the
42:28culture of where you were living? Was it
42:30a fight culture? Was there a lot of
42:32people that fought or No, you were part
42:33of very small. No one. Oh, really? No
42:36one. If you would say to someone 10
42:38years ago in Spain that you were doing
42:42MMA, they would look at you and like,
42:45"Kid, take a book, read something, live
42:48that crazy, crazy thing." Yeah. Don't go
42:51that route. Don't Yeah. So, so, so who
42:55did you train with in in Spain at 15, 16
42:58years old? I find uh actually my mom
43:01find completely by chance a gym where we
43:06start training me and my brother because
43:08we wanted to keep with the with the with
43:10the Greg Roman wrestling but they didn't
43:11had the culture of that sport. So by
43:15chance we find this
43:16gym and we we meet the sport. I didn't
43:19even know what jiujitsu was, what MMA
43:22was. I didn't know anything about the
43:25that that word. So, we discovered and I
43:29fell in love since the first second.
43:31What's the age difference between you
43:32and your brother? One year. He's older.
43:35He's older. Yeah. Would he bully you as
43:37a kid? If he was a bully with Did he
43:40bully you as a kid? Did he push you
43:41around? Uh, no. No. No. Never. You guys
43:44were close. Close. Close. We fought a
43:46lot with with each other like every
43:48brother, but he never bullied me. Okay.
43:51But you guys would fight a lot. So,
43:54um, up until what age? Cuz if you guys
43:57are training together, there's advantage
43:58if both brothers are like, you know,
44:00there's this, uh, um, Can you pull up
44:02his brother's picture if you don't mind,
44:04Rob? There's there's advantage. There's
44:06this guy named um, uh, Lavar Ball. Lavar
44:10Ball. Is that the father's name, Rob?
44:12Uh, uh, is it Lavar Ball? I believe so.
44:15Yes. Lavar. Lavar. And his three sons,
44:18they all uh, play basketball. Okay. All
44:20three of them. And you have the oldest
44:23makes it in the NBA. I think you have
44:25the second one almost made it. And the
44:27third one I think youngest one is Lonzo.
44:29Lonzo is probably the best one out of
44:30the three. The youngest one. Okay. And
44:33but they were all basketball players.
44:34Don't say that. Don't compare never ever
44:36brothers between each others. They hate
44:39it. They they hate it. But you know why
44:41I asked this question? I don't ask it
44:42from the standpoint. The the older
44:44brother typically helps the younger
44:46brother become better at whatever they
44:48do. They play a role of a mentor. Yeah.
44:51What's what's the dynamics of you and
44:52your brother? What's your relationship
44:54like that? Same. Okay. At uh at some
44:57point he became my
44:59my like head coach. He was in charge of
45:05all my trainings. Yeah. He was like kind
45:08of my mentor at at some point. Yeah. He
45:12helped me a lot. And the of course it's
45:14a huge advantage to have a brother doing
45:17the same thing with you. We were going
45:19in the morning the
45:21first people to go in in in in the gym
45:24and the last ones to live it.
45:27At what point did the two of you guys
45:29build a reputation? Like listen, don't
45:31mess with the Torio brothers. At what
45:33age was their reputation?
45:36Uh
45:38[Laughter]
45:42uh they're going to hate it. I think
45:45like since the first day I don't know
45:48since the the first year since the the
45:50moment where whenever we we we're going
45:53the people were meeting us. It's not
45:56like don't miss with them because they
45:58are I don't know they going to [ __ ] you
46:00up. Not because of that.
46:03We got people. We have great
46:04relationship with with the people. It's
46:06not because we are aggressive. You know
46:08what I mean? I know how to treat people
46:10and I trade people how I I I I like to
46:13be treat treated.
46:15Did Did any kids at a young age try you
46:19guys that maybe didn't know that they
46:20tested you and then they had to learn
46:22that you guys know how to fight or not a
46:23lot? It happens only only once like a
46:26random fight in the street,
46:29but I don't remember a lot of them. It's
46:32funny you say and Georgie I was fighting
46:34every day in the streets. Yeah, in the
46:38school. In the school I was fighting. So
46:39people were picking you. You were
46:40starting the fights or they were
46:42starting the fights? To be honest, I
46:45always had problems with people that
46:47were
46:48bully w with the weak, you know. I hated
46:51that since I was a kid. So I always had
46:55problems with people
46:57that was bully were bully with others.
47:02Who's the biggest guy you ever took
47:04down?
47:06the biggest guy like the biggest guy
47:08that tested you at a bar at a you know
47:13in trainings it it happens to me many
47:15many many times like when I was 15 years
47:17old a lot of big guys like security guys
47:20that were that they were working in um
47:23like a
47:24securities they were coming to the gym
47:27and when the time was coming for
47:30sparring my coach was like okay uh go
47:33with Ilia they were looking to me like,
47:35"No, but he's too small. Go with him."
47:38And I'm like, "Now you're going to find
47:42out." And after that, I was I was going
47:45to that nightclub and they were like,
47:47"No, come coming." Respect. Yeah.
47:50Respect. How old were you when you were
47:52going to the nightclub? I'm not going to
47:54repeat that. You just said, "No way.
47:58I'm not going to repeat that." That is
48:00fun. So you you and your brother were,
48:02you know, super tight till today. Very
48:04close. Yeah, very close. And when you
48:06have the big fights, is he always in the
48:08corner with you? Always. Always. Always.
48:10He's the main man. Got it. Yeah.
48:12Nowadays, more than ever, the brand you
48:15wear reflects and represent who you are.
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49:26Have Have you guys spent any time with
49:28Nate and Nick Diaz or No, never. Never.
49:31No. What do you think about those guys?
49:34I like them. The charact the character
49:35they represent in the sport. I always
49:37like it. They were so much fun to watch.
49:40So much fun to watch. They always
49:42provide a show for the fans in the most
49:45unique way. But they would do it.
49:49You can't copy that. No, you can't copy
49:51that. Special. They are very special.
49:53Who were your favorite fighters coming
49:54up? Like f I know we talk about Conor,
49:56we talk Diaz, but who were some of your
49:58favorite fight? You and your brother,
49:59you're like, "Oh, this guy's good. I
50:01like watching this guy." We like from
50:04MMA or anything. We liked a lot Canelo.
50:09Canelo was and it's one of my favorite
50:13athletes. Yeah, I learned so much from
50:15him. Why Canelo? Technical skills.
50:17technical skills I learned like we were
50:20watching his videos, his training
50:22footage, like everything and we were
50:25trying to to copy that, to repeat that.
50:27He inspired us a lot. Have you ever met
50:30him or No, no, never. So, you guys have
50:32never trained? Never. Hopefully, one day
50:34I I met him in in person. Wow. Let me
50:39ask you like in in the specific boxing
50:42side, right? like when they ask him
50:44they're like, "Hey, Jake Paul, uh, you
50:46know, fighting as Canelo to Canelo is
50:49like, you know, it's a very different
50:50world." Is your technical abilities in
50:54boxing stand up? How good do you think
50:57you stand technical abilities with
50:59somebody that's a professional boxer?
51:02Okay. Don't say Canelo because I
51:04wouldn't fight him because he's somebody
51:07you look up to. Yeah. Yeah. He inspired
51:08me so much at some point as I said like
51:11I would fight. No, no, no. I
51:13wouldn't if I prepare for six months
51:17like only boxing. I don't do anything
51:20about wrestling, about I don't know
51:23knees, elbows, grappling, whatever. Only
51:27boxing, bro. Put me whoever you want in
51:29front of
51:30me. Whoever. Whoever. And I hear a lot
51:34of guys talking about like boxers. No,
51:36Elia, he he has a good box boxing for
51:39MMA, but he has nothing to do with me in
51:41in in the boxing ring. I'm like, listen,
51:46you don't have anything to do with me
51:48outside, inside, whatever you want.
51:50Like, what you want to do? Even Even if
51:53you want to play a chess match, I beat
51:56you. Why do you think that? Why do you
51:59believe that? Because I know how good I
52:01am in boxing. I train every day boxing
52:04every day. That's part of my life. I
52:07spar with with pro pro boxers. I learn
52:11boxing. I I like I don't know. I
52:15consider myself
52:17that I can box with with anyone. Just
52:20give me six
52:21months only boxing preparation. I'm not
52:24even telling you like three because I
52:26need to to switch so many things that I
52:30do it because of MMA like the stance the
52:33movement is a little bit different for
52:35the boxing of MMA than for boxing boxing
52:39for pure makes sense and by the way for
52:41a long I mean Max Holloways was known
52:43you know as a guy that he would say he
52:46had the best standup. No no no he would
52:48say he was saying that but that wasn't
52:51the truth. So you don't even think he's
52:52the best standup? No, no, no. Compared
52:55to you or compared to anybody
52:57else com,
53:01it's not like take me out from the
53:04equation. Yeah. Like I don't think that
53:07I saw anyone in in in MMA that I was
53:12like he has a great
53:15boxing. No one. It doesn't matter from
53:22you see he was one of those but even
53:25Connor he had a great boxing for MMA
53:30uh
53:31very I don't
53:33know MMA stance you know in boxing you
53:36can't go like that
53:38because you are going to
53:41suffer but he had better better boxing
53:44than a lot of people he had
53:47But
53:49Max, you know, boxing is about simple
53:52movements. You can do so much movements
53:54and switch the
53:55standard switch the stands all the time.
54:00That's not boxing. In boxing, you have
54:02to be like very disciplined all the time
54:07and very protected. You have to select
54:10all your combinations. You have to move
54:12your head and you have to be very good
54:15to administrate your energy, you know,
54:17because you have 12 rounds and that's a
54:20completely different different
54:22movie. You your match up with Makv,
54:25where do you have the advantage and
54:26where does he
54:29[Music]
54:34uh this is what what I told you. You ask
54:36me, I feel that I have the advantage in
54:39in everything. This is what what what I
54:42truly believe you me personally I would
54:45ask him like what's your favorite
54:48submission whatever I don't know dark
54:51joke I'm going to submit you with
55:00that so if if you ask him what his
55:03favorite submission is you would do that
55:05to him
55:08this is a guy that's trained and coached
55:10by Khabib who you know 28 and0 you know
55:14stories that never lost a round in his
55:16life. I take him close to Khabib. I will
55:18submit him closer to Khabib. You'll
55:21submit him in front of Kabib. Yeah.
55:25I take him Khabib used to take people
55:28and he should take take them down and
55:31talk to Dana. I would do it to Khabib
55:33like I will take him but and then talk
55:35to Kabib. Talk to Khabib. Kabib, I have
55:38to do it.
55:42What would you tell him? No, I wouldn't.
55:44I wouldn't like all the respect. But
55:47this is how I felt. I felt that I I I
55:49submit him with with the DAR. Like
55:51what's which one is your favorite? Dar,
55:53you're not joking. Whatever he tells
55:55you, you This one I'm not joking. Like I
55:57I truly believe that I I submit him with
56:00the DAR or whatever. I don't know. Tell
56:02me which one's your favorite. Don't tell
56:04me a hell hook or some bulls. Bulls.
56:06submissions that I don't know. Now I'm
56:10curious. Now, now I'm actually curious
56:12to know what would be his what do you
56:13think his favorite would be? Um I think
56:17Dar or Guillotin. And if he says that
56:20Yeah, I go for that. No problem. It's
56:22going to be even more entertaining for
56:24me.
56:26Yeah. The people didn't realize that my
56:30background comes from wrestling from the
56:33ground game. I actually I grew up in in
56:36in with wrestling and with with BJJ and
56:40I developed my
56:42skills at at when I was 20 years old in
56:46in boxing game but my my best
56:52skills yeah are on the ground. It's so
56:55weird that you did this in Georgia and
56:58Spain. Who's there? who I mean do you
57:01understand like it's kind of weird to
57:03say that that because some of the guys
57:05you're coming from this camp okay you
57:07know he is he comes from what camp we
57:11know what camp he's coming from we've
57:13seen the videos we've seen the training
57:15we've seen how disciplined their camp is
57:17and everyone's from a different camp who
57:20who else is a very well-known person
57:22from the camp that you came up of
57:24outside of you and your brother who is
57:26wellknown Ilia that's weird it is it
57:31But that's why God's everywhere.
57:34He's everywhere. God's everywhere.
57:38[Laughter]
57:40Yeah, that's uh it's weird. It is weird.
57:43That's the part that's very weird with
57:44you where you know where did this come
57:46from? Do you think it Well, I mean it's
57:47not even that because you have access to
57:49everything. Would you guys watch a lot
57:51of YouTube and kind of repeated you and
57:52your brother and watch what he That's
57:54why I told you we were the first people
57:56to go into the gym. Uh we were taking
57:58our phones watching the videos I don't
58:01know drills in in BJJ for example drill
58:04to take to take someone's back and we
58:07were drilling that the whole day all the
58:09drilling uh single legs double legs I
58:12don't know the cage work boxing
58:14kickboxing elbows knees I don't know
58:18whatever how can we develop our ki or or
58:21stren or power or whatever I was like so
58:26obsessed
58:27with everything. I was working all day,
58:29every day. That was my obsession, all
58:33the time. But there's not a professional
58:35UFC fighter that's coaching you guys
58:37with your career. No. So, what is your
58:39first Not even a professional boxer or
58:42professional at all? No one. IA. That's
58:45weird. Yeah, it is. That That's very
58:47weird. So, what is the first interaction
58:49like the the way you were found? How how
58:52were you found? Who found you? Who saw
58:54you fight to say, "Hey, come on down."
58:55Or did you say I'm coming into the UFC
58:57to fight?
59:00No. So I had four fights when I started
59:03with my professional career in in Spain
59:05and at that point become very difficult
59:09to find a fight for me because in Spain
59:11at that point we didn't even had an
59:14events you know
59:16so I was
59:18like listen I have to do something
59:20because no one is going to come to me
59:22and touch my door. How old were you at
59:23this time?
59:2418. Okay. So, 10 years ago. Yeah. 18.
59:27Okay. So, 18. 2015. Yeah. Who Who's on
59:31top of the world in 2015? Connor is on
59:33top of the world, right? Is UFC is
59:35Connor and Jo Jones, Jose Pier, all all.
59:41Yeah. Those I think.
59:46Who were the biggest names of UFC in
59:482015? Conor, Holly Holm, go a little bit
59:51lower. Ronda Rousey, Daniel Cormier,
59:53John. Okay. Yeah, got it. So, I'm like,
59:59I have to do something. I need a plan.
1:00:02Demetrius Johnson. Yeah. So, you need a
1:00:04plan. So, I start to talk to myself. I'm
1:00:07like, what can I do? And that that point
1:00:11Gustafson, Alexander Gustafson, was
1:00:14fighting for the belt against John
1:00:16Jones. And that guy was training in in
1:00:19Sweden in Allst Star gym at that time.
1:00:22And that was the the the most recognized
1:00:26like gym in Europe. And I'm like I have
1:00:29to go there because I'm sure that he's
1:00:32monitor or someone is going to Sweden in
1:00:35Sweden in
1:00:37Stockholm. So I'm like I I need to go
1:00:40there because I know that someone is
1:00:43going to see me and the only thing I
1:00:45need is I need an opportunity. I need a
1:00:47I need a fight. I need to prove
1:00:49my my
1:00:52skills. Then I had the second problem
1:00:54that I didn't have enough money to to
1:00:56travel because you need money to to go
1:00:58from Spain to to Sweden and stay there,
1:01:01I don't know, for two weeks, three
1:01:02weeks, whatever. So I did, I don't know,
1:01:05crazy things with with when I was 18
1:01:08years old. I went to that
1:01:11place. I went to my my first training. I
1:01:15finished the training and the guy who
1:01:17who was representing everyone at that
1:01:19time and actually he's the manager of
1:01:21Kamzad also at this time Kamzad Chimay
1:01:23you know he came to me and he was like
1:01:28do you have some someone to that is
1:01:31representing you and I'm like no who who
1:01:33did he see you train who who did he see
1:01:34you spar that guy this guy yeah this guy
1:01:37saw saw me in in in the training with
1:01:39everyone in the mat oh but there's not a
1:01:41fight that he saw you he's just watching
1:01:42you on the mat exactly he saw training
1:01:45with with everyone, you know, purely
1:01:47ground, no boxing, nothing yet. I think
1:01:50we did a little bit of boxing. We we we
1:01:53mix it up. We did something in the
1:01:55ground. We did something with in in the
1:01:57striking. And once I finished the
1:02:00training, he came to me and he asked me
1:02:01like, "Do you have a a manager?" I'm
1:02:04like, "No. Do you want me to represent
1:02:06you?" And I'm like, "This is why I came
1:02:09here." And in three
1:02:12weeks, he called me. No. And one week he
1:02:15called me like I have a fight for you.
1:02:17And I started my my journey there and
1:02:21the rest is history. Who was your first
1:02:23fight? I start I started to fight in
1:02:26Finland. My first international fight.
1:02:29Who who was it with? Uh it
1:02:32was Mika. I don't I don't remember. He
1:02:37Can you look this up? I'm actually
1:02:38really curious. So So this is Watch that
1:02:42fight.
1:02:44I finished him in the first
1:02:46round. Then after that one in three and
1:02:49a half weeks, he called me and he he
1:02:52gave me the the the fight for the Cage
1:02:54Warriors World Championship. So this is
1:02:57not UFC yet. No, no, no, no, no. This is
1:02:59not UFC. Look, no, the the Mika. There's
1:03:03Mika is I had four fights and I went to
1:03:06Sweden and he gave me that fight. Mika
1:03:11Hamal. Yeah. Submission guillotine show.
1:03:13Yeah. In the first round. First round
1:03:15335. After that fight, he called me in a
1:03:19three and a half weeks or four weeks.
1:03:20Look, I fought April 28th. 6 weeks
1:03:24later. Yeah. Something like that. Mhm.
1:03:27Then I fought June 16 for the Cage
1:03:30Warriors uh world
1:03:33championship. Then I was signed by
1:03:37Brave. I did uh two fights and I get the
1:03:41call from the UFC. Oh, got it. So,
1:03:44you're Ysef Salal is your first UFC
1:03:46fight. Yeah. So, each one of those
1:03:48fights back to back to back it's first
1:03:50round. Go back down a little bit, Rob.
1:03:51Right there. Look at first round. Ma
1:03:53335, first round 139. Keep going up.
1:03:57First round 115. Lewis Gomez first round
1:03:59342. Stephen uh going Calves and then
1:04:02you're in the UFC. Yeah.
1:04:05And then you win third round five
1:04:07minutes. Yeah. I get the call. Oh,
1:04:10that's co. Yeah, that's co. I was sick
1:04:14and they called me and they told me, "Do
1:04:16you want to fight in the UFC in 8 days?"
1:04:20And I'm like, "Of course." I had to cut
1:04:22like 12 kilos
1:04:25um kilos. Kilos like I don't know how
1:04:28much is like 25 pounds, something like
1:04:30that. It's a lot in 8 days. That's a
1:04:32lot. Holy [ __ ] I had to fight at 400
1:04:36p.m. local time in Abu Dhabi because
1:04:38they were like
1:04:4126 pounds you had to lose at at this
1:04:43weight. Yeah. In 8 days. H how'd you
1:04:47lose 26 in 8 days? It's like
1:04:50dehydration.
1:04:53That's tough. That's a lot on that body.
1:04:55That's a lot. I'm I'm 245. If I lose 26
1:04:59pounds is a lot. But I had to spend a
1:05:02day in the hospital because the UFC is
1:05:04asking you for a lot of um medical
1:05:08medicals. Then I had to go I spend a day
1:05:11to get my visa. I don't know. I had in
1:05:15reality five days.
1:05:17So crazy. So you go to UAE for the
1:05:20fight. Rob, can you go back to the fight
1:05:21list? So you go to UAE, you have that
1:05:25fight. Yeah. October 11. Mhm. I remember
1:05:30that. I watched that card. Yeah. And
1:05:33then I fought
1:05:35December 5th. And that's ESPN. Yeah.
1:05:39It's not even a main ones yet. No. And
1:05:42then go to Ryan Hall
1:05:45Vegas. Jen Jai Herbert. That's the one
1:05:47with the kick. That's the one that they
1:05:49gave you two weeks, right? When they
1:05:51called you two week prep. Which one? The
1:05:53J Herbert. Yes. Uh that has a huge story
1:05:57behind that. that I have a huge story
1:05:59behind that fight because I was supposed
1:06:01to fight in January against
1:06:04Mosarv. He pulled out from the
1:06:08fight. Then I I I came back to home and
1:06:11they called me. But in reality, I I was
1:06:13prepared. I was prepared. But it it was
1:06:15a different weight class. I went up to
1:06:17155. That fight is not in my weight
1:06:19class. It's in light.
1:06:22So that's not 145. You want the 155. So
1:06:25that happens if they just call you to
1:06:27say, "Do you want to take a fight that's
1:06:28not at your weight class?" They can make
1:06:29those calls. Yeah. And you get to say
1:06:32yes or no. Yeah. Of course. You always
1:06:34have a choose. Got it. And then after
1:06:37that, I follow with your friend,
1:06:42Bryce Mitchell, and then Josh. Yeah. We
1:06:44wish him best of luck.
1:06:47You're being sincere. What? You're being
1:06:50sincere or you're joking? No, no, no,
1:06:52no. I wish him all the best. I hope the
1:06:54best wins. Yeah.
1:06:57What a
1:06:58story. Everything started from Sweden in
1:07:01reality. Wow. You went to Sweden this
1:07:03guy. This is what I used to say to
1:07:05everyone. If you want if you want to
1:07:06have something that you never had, you
1:07:08have to do things that you never
1:07:10did. Move your ass. Yeah. But but what
1:07:14is what is very unique about what you're
1:07:16saying? I I told I talked about a
1:07:18bodybuilding story earlier. I had a guy
1:07:20named Dorian Yates. I don't know if you
1:07:21know what Dorian Yates is in
1:07:22bodybuilding. He's he won six Mr.
1:07:24Olympias. The guy had the most
1:07:26ridiculous physique. This is Dorian
1:07:28Yates. He won six Mr. Olympia. He's from
1:07:30UK. Okay. And what made him unique is
1:07:35all the other bodybuilders that would
1:07:37compete, they were all in the US and so
1:07:41they would all train at the same gym.
1:07:43Okay? So they could see what kind of
1:07:44improvement you're making cuz they're
1:07:46all here. Flex Wheeler, Kevin, you know,
1:07:50all the guys. This guy was in London,
1:07:52not even in London, in a city outside of
1:07:54London, like in a regular city. And you
1:07:57would only see him once a year. So
1:07:59everybody's like, "Well, is he training
1:08:00hard? Is he not training guard? Is he
1:08:01training guard?" And then when he would
1:08:03come, he was a scientist. He paid
1:08:05attention to everything and he would
1:08:07come and dominate and he won six of them
1:08:08in a row because nobody could see him.
1:08:11Yeah. He was a real real
1:08:14um a lot of people try to model their
1:08:17bodybuilding after this guy. He does a
1:08:19very he lives a very different life
1:08:20right now. He yoga. I don't follow that
1:08:23sport. But who who is who is the the
1:08:26number one for you in in in bodybuilding
1:08:28ever? It's probably Ronnie Coleman,
1:08:30Arnold. Uh old school would be a guy
1:08:33named Lee Haney. Phil Heat has an
1:08:35incredible physique. Kevin Levrone Flex
1:08:37Wheeler. Jay Cutler's got a good good
1:08:40amount of following. It's probably this
1:08:41guy, Ronnie
1:08:43Coleman. He He is a He's a If you go to
1:08:46a different picture, Rob, go to images
1:08:48and and let me ask you, do you really
1:08:50think that they
1:08:52only drink whey proteins to get this
1:08:55big? You know, you know, it's at a point
1:08:58that they tell you everything they use
1:09:00now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But they don't do
1:09:03drug test like No, not Mr. Olympia. No,
1:09:06they don't do any drug test. No, but
1:09:07they they put so many things in their
1:09:09body. It it's it's a it's a very But by
1:09:12the way, some people say like, you know,
1:09:15hey, even if you put it in your body,
1:09:16that doesn't mean you're gonna win Mr.
1:09:18Olympia. No, it's it's a lot of detail.
1:09:20It's a lot of stuff that you got to do
1:09:22to be a These guys are a diet. It's diet
1:09:25training, by the way. It it sucks as a
1:09:27life. It's not a good life. Sucks. It's
1:09:29not a good life at all. Like, it's a
1:09:31very different life. It's not even a
1:09:32healthy life. It's not a healthy life.
1:09:33Most of them would say few of them can
1:09:35keep it. like some of the guys were able
1:09:36to continue their life and still do
1:09:38okay, but uh it's a different life. So,
1:09:40the reason why I'm saying this is for
1:09:42you. Here's a guy and his brother living
1:09:45in Georgia go to Spain. This is not a
1:09:47UFC market. And then you guys through
1:09:50YouTube watching videos, you train
1:09:53independently on your own. And then you
1:09:56come
1:09:57up and then fighter of the year,
1:10:00undefeated. Now you're at a place,
1:10:03lightweight, about to have a big fight.
1:10:05Hopefully soon. We'd love to see that
1:10:06fight happen this year. Hopefully.
1:10:08Hopefully.
1:10:12You're waiting for that phone call, huh?
1:10:14I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting.
1:10:16I'm very excited to be honest. Either if
1:10:19it's Charles or Islam, it's going to be
1:10:22a huge one. And I I know that the fans
1:10:25are going to going to enjoy a lot. What
1:10:28do you think is unique about Charles
1:10:29style because Charles, you know, it's
1:10:31history. It's very interesting the way
1:10:33he came at the beginning and then he
1:10:35reputation he changed his reputation and
1:10:37then you would think he was going to be
1:10:38losing it and then he won with Michael
1:10:40Chandler and he had a few very good
1:10:42backto backto back wins that were
1:10:44unbelievable the way he recreated
1:10:46himself but what's your opinion on his
1:10:48style of fighting?
1:10:53M I like him of course he he has a great
1:10:58ground game and striking nothing special
1:11:01for me and in the ground he's dangerous
1:11:04he he has the most submissions in the
1:11:07UFC history I think so him yeah I think
1:11:10so he he's a dangerous guy in in the
1:11:13ground but I think that he's the the
1:11:16kind of guy that when He feels
1:11:22that you are more powerful. He gives
1:11:26up. He gives up like fast. I don't think
1:11:31that he's the kind of fighter where he
1:11:33finds like
1:11:36some
1:11:37advers how you say adversary. Yeah.
1:11:40Adversary that he keeps going, keeps
1:11:43going, keeps going. No, he's like he
1:11:45gives up. 10 loses.
1:11:4910. It's not one, two, three, four. Can
1:11:51you go to his record? But I think it was
1:11:53seven, eight, nine. It's 10. Go to his
1:11:56Wikipedia rap just to see how it is
1:11:58because, you know, I've seen this guy's
1:12:00story
1:12:01and Yeah. But the 10 losses, a lot of
1:12:05them are go back by submission, by
1:12:08knockout, and one by decision. But you
1:12:11wouldn't want to fight Arman,
1:12:14the one that's first place right now
1:12:15behind uh I think that he needs to build
1:12:19himself a little bit more, but if the
1:12:22UFC tells me that you're good with that
1:12:24as well. It's for the belt. You'll take
1:12:26anything, right? He's going to get the
1:12:28chance. Got it.
1:12:31Yeah, it'll
1:12:32be it'll be interesting to see what
1:12:35happens. The thing with him is he's 28
1:12:36years old. You guys are similar ages.
1:12:38He's also young. Yeah. Charles is 35. So
1:12:4128-28.
1:12:42This would be He needs one one two
1:12:45fights. He needs one or two fights
1:12:47before he fights you.
1:12:52He's Armenian, by the way.
1:12:55You ever fought an Armenian? What? Have
1:12:58you ever fought an Armenian? No. No. We
1:13:00Georgians have a great relationship with
1:13:02Armenians. Yeah. I have a lot of
1:13:04friends. Armenian. Armenians. You look
1:13:06Armenian like I you know when I Yeah. I
1:13:08mean, you look you're you're a
1:13:10good-looking Armenian is what you are.
1:13:12You're a very good-looking guy, but
1:13:13obviously it's from the same region. My
1:13:15mother's side, uh, they're from Baku.
1:13:18Aaran. Yeah. Baku Azaran. So, they after
1:13:22the whole everything. All our own
1:13:23neighbors.
1:13:25Yeah. All in the same region. Do you do
1:13:28you follow any of the politics like with
1:13:29what's going on with Ukraine and Russia?
1:13:31Do you follow any of that stuff or not
1:13:32really? Yeah, a little bit. What do you
1:13:34think about it? What do you think about
1:13:35what's going on there?
1:13:37What do you think about Zalinski Putin?
1:13:40You know, there's how the world sees it,
1:13:42but then you're in the region, right?
1:13:44You're there. So, in America, you know,
1:13:47Putin's a bad guy. Let me tell you this,
1:13:49this, this, and that. He started the
1:13:50war. Or Zillinsky, all he wants is
1:13:52money. He's bought. He just keeps taking
1:13:54money. What do you think about what's
1:13:56going on there?
1:13:58Even if he wants to take the money and
1:14:00all that, I don't know. I'm
1:14:03against to kill the people always. I'm
1:14:07always going to vote for the peace
1:14:09always.
1:14:10So I don't know. I don't I don't I don't
1:14:12know that deep about who
1:14:16but something that I
1:14:19know from my history from my livingings
1:14:23are that they they are the Russians
1:14:26are Putin. Let's say like the
1:14:29politicians that run Russia because
1:14:31nothing against the people uh regular
1:14:34people from Russia. I'm talking about
1:14:36the
1:14:38politicians. They don't give a damn
1:14:40about
1:14:42anyone. Yeah. In Georgia, I was living
1:14:45in 2008. I saw what they were doing to
1:14:48to my
1:14:49people. So,
1:14:52Russians. Russians. Russians. Yeah.
1:14:54Russians.
1:14:57I don't know. Dangerous people.
1:14:59Dangerous people. Interesting. And I
1:15:01think that you can't trust at all in in
1:15:06in
1:15:07Russians. And I repeat, I'm not talking
1:15:09about the regular people. I'm talking
1:15:11about the
1:15:12politicians.
1:15:14It's it's crazy. I don't know. Is Is
1:15:18there a Where's Kabib and Islam? Where
1:15:21are they from? They're from uh Pakistan.
1:15:22Pakistan. That's that's part of of they
1:15:24are Russians, right? They are Russian.
1:15:26And when they start to attack any place
1:15:29in the world, the first people they send
1:15:31to the war is like Russians,
1:15:34Chnians, the people they have, not
1:15:37you're you're not going to see any
1:15:39Russian Russian in a war. You're always
1:15:41going to see the people they have like
1:15:43call yourself a Russian, but wait for my
1:15:46call because may Why do you think that
1:15:48is? Because they use them. They of
1:15:52course they use them. They they they
1:15:54give them a a position, a
1:15:58place,
1:16:00but at some point I'm going to may I'm
1:16:03going to ask you to do something for me.
1:16:06That's how it works everywhere in the
1:16:08world. You do something for from for
1:16:11someone, you want something
1:16:14back. This is how it
1:16:16works. Yeah. It's crazy. I don't know
1:16:20what what are your thoughts from here
1:16:22from the United States? Like what do you
1:16:24think
1:16:25about what's going on in
1:16:29Ukraine? Well, I mean, you know, when
1:16:32you when you watch Zalinski, at first
1:16:35everybody's like, "Whoa, Putin invaded.
1:16:38What's that all about?" And then as it
1:16:40gets deeper and deeper and you hear the
1:16:43stories, the money being funneled
1:16:45through, constantly wanting the money to
1:16:48continue, coming up here talking to the
1:16:49president as if America needs to give
1:16:51him more money, disrespecting the US
1:16:54president a little bit on the way he
1:16:56handled himself at the White House. He
1:16:57has lost all credibility with a lot of
1:16:59people in America. Most Americans now
1:17:01don't fully support and trust Zillinsky.
1:17:04They see Putin as exactly who he is.
1:17:07He's a Russia loyalist. Number one, he's
1:17:09an old school guy. Uh, but you know what
1:17:12you get with him. Yeah. You know who I
1:17:15think you can judge a whole country
1:17:17because of of one person. I don't
1:17:19disagree. No, I don't disagree. I think
1:17:20you're right. That goes to Iran because
1:17:22we don't like
1:17:24Zalinski. We are not supporting the the
1:17:26Ukrainians and we are going to going to
1:17:28say
1:17:29that the Russians are not the the lo
1:17:34Kimbaden. How you say that in English?
1:17:37Kimbayen. Imbadores.
1:17:39Inadores, can you say I don't know if if
1:17:41I'm even saying correctly invaders.
1:17:44Invaders. Invaders. They they are the
1:17:46invaders. 100% they are the invaders.
1:17:50Right. No. And then do you think the the
1:17:53opposite that they are not? I think if
1:17:56in the history is a little bit
1:17:58complicated when you go back and you
1:18:00read about the fact that US made a
1:18:02promise when Putin went to Clinton is
1:18:05like hey I'd like to join NATO. would
1:18:07you guys want to entertain the idea and
1:18:08it's like yeah let me call you back
1:18:09calls him back 5 minutes not right now
1:18:12Putin wanted to join NATO why don't you
1:18:13want him to join NATO because if they
1:18:15don't join NATO you need war so he can
1:18:16make more money so you need a bad guy so
1:18:19you want to kind of isolate Putin to the
1:18:20side and you know do you really think
1:18:23that if Putin wants to join NATO he he
1:18:26he couldn't do that
1:18:29yeah because they said so why he's not a
1:18:31part of NATO you think they would want
1:18:33him to join NATO course they they don't
1:18:35they they don't want
1:18:37You think you think Putin you think they
1:18:39would want Putin to join NATO? If they
1:18:41want Putin to join
1:18:44NATO, why not? You think NATO wants
1:18:48Putin to join NATO at this point? I wish
1:18:52that No, I wish that no because I don't
1:18:55I don't I don't want to
1:18:57have Listen, the the the history I have
1:19:01my family has with Russia. I'm like with
1:19:04with the people that runs runs that
1:19:07country. It's like I don't give a damn
1:19:10about about them, you know? I'm all
1:19:14against Putin. Against Putin. Like I get
1:19:17that. No, listen. I lived in Iran. We
1:19:20had a war with Saddam Hussein, Iraq, and
1:19:23Jimmy Carter in the US. I understand
1:19:26like I'm there is emotion here. I grew
1:19:29up with, you know, Christian family in a
1:19:32country where 99% were Muslims in Iran.
1:19:35I saw what they did to Christians. I
1:19:37have memories of that. I didn't leave at
1:19:392 years old or four years old. I left at
1:19:41almost 11 years old. So those memories
1:19:45stay. They're in the blood. They don't
1:19:47go away. I have mine as well on
1:19:48experiences. But to
1:19:50me, I think sometimes I sit there and I
1:19:53wonder that they need a bad guy for them
1:19:55to um think about it this
1:19:58way. What has been the biggest boxing
1:20:02fight of all time that made the most
1:20:04money?
1:20:05Uh it was Floyd against Pacquiao. Yeah.
1:20:09What is the biggest Rob? Can you pull
1:20:11out what is the biggest
1:20:13boxing pay actual money pay of all time?
1:20:18You know who I think it's Connor against
1:20:21what you want to tell me with I'm I'm
1:20:23going to tell you the point I'm making
1:20:24to you here that's number one okay so
1:20:26okay so number six is that go back up
1:20:28right six is de la Hoya against
1:20:31Mayweather good fight go to the next one
1:20:34okay Floyd Canelo go to the next one
1:20:38both of those he made fun of him because
1:20:39he would wear the Cinco de Mayo Conor
1:20:41McGregor who's that fight with is that
1:20:43with Mayweather yes okay what's the next
1:20:45one and then Pacquiao Okay, that's one
1:20:48of them. And then Mayweather again with
1:20:51Pacquiao. What's the first one? I'm
1:20:53actually curious now. What's the first
1:20:54one? Who's that with? Is that Connor?
1:20:56Mayweather McConnor. Okay. So, do you
1:21:00remember
1:21:02$275 million? A billion dollars in
1:21:05earnings, one fight. Yeah. $1 billion in
1:21:08earnings, one fight. Right. Okay. The
1:21:10reason why this did so well is because
1:21:14everybody was convinced they hated each
1:21:17other. They needed an enemy. Okay. Okay.
1:21:20So, my opinion,
1:21:24Ilia, there's a lot of money being made
1:21:28when there's wars. Who makes money?
1:21:31Weapons. Things, you know, a lot of good
1:21:34weapons being
1:21:35sold. If there's no war, they don't make
1:21:38money. Like just like in UFC, if there's
1:21:41not a like for example, what's going to
1:21:43get more eyeballs? You against Charles
1:21:45or you against Islam? Yeah, of course.
1:21:48Why? Because it's more personal.
1:21:50Dagistan against Georgia against Are you
1:21:52kidding me? That could be like, but why?
1:21:56Because it's emotion. It's here. So then
1:21:58people going to come and see more
1:21:59pay-per-view. Money is going to be made.
1:22:01Of course, it's a great business model.
1:22:02I totally get it. End of the year, Jon
1:22:04Jones against Aspenol, right? Everybody
1:22:06wants to see that heavyweight fight to
1:22:07see if it's going to take place or not.
1:22:09John wants money for it because it's
1:22:11probably going to be his last fight. If
1:22:12that happens, that fight's going to be
1:22:15insane, right? Okay.
1:22:18Okay. If all of a sudden Putin's in NATO
1:22:23and he is now there's peace in the world
1:22:26and no issues, how do you sell stuff?
1:22:30Who made money with Ukraine and Russia,
1:22:32the war? Who makes money when there's
1:22:34the stuff with Israel, Iran, Hamas? Who
1:22:37makes money when Iran and, you know,
1:22:40Iraq or Afghanistan? Who made money?
1:22:42These guys that make weapons? It's a
1:22:44business model. So, I think a part of it
1:22:47is yes, Putin is a loyalist to him, KGB
1:22:51background. I I know his background,
1:22:53what his loyalty is to, but I'm also not
1:22:56naive to believe that there's people in
1:22:58the back that go like this. Hey, Ilia,
1:23:01let me tell you what he said about you.
1:23:02Hey, let me say what he said about you.
1:23:04And they're poking you, right? To upset
1:23:06you. Why? Because it sells more. So they
1:23:10they can't have all these guys get along
1:23:13because then those guys don't make
1:23:15money. And these are big contracts. Do
1:23:18you know who's the first company that
1:23:19came in on the contract with Ukraine
1:23:21after all the damages that happened in
1:23:23Ukraine?
1:23:24Did you see a company came out and they
1:23:26got a $400 billion contract to fix
1:23:28Ukraine? The the Rockefellers. No. No.
1:23:31Right here. So you hear the story about
1:23:34Black Rockck announces new investment
1:23:36initiative to rebuild Ukraine. Okay.
1:23:39Well, why rebuild it? Why rebuild it?
1:23:42So, but you need war to rebuild. Of
1:23:44course, you need damages to rebuild. So,
1:23:47I am just as careful with the money
1:23:49people that want to see war as I am with
1:23:52world leaders like Putin, Xi, all the
1:23:55other guys. Both of them you have to be
1:23:56careful with.
1:23:58So, do do so you believe that they do it
1:24:01because of of the business? Of course.
1:24:04Okay.
1:24:06Not not Putin. Putin is here. I think
1:24:10that it's it goes a little bit more far
1:24:13than only sell weapons for Putin. Yeah.
1:24:18For Putin and for the United States and
1:24:20for everyone that that has the the
1:24:22weapons to sell. Maybe let me explain it
1:24:24a different way to you. Khabib against
1:24:26Connor. Yeah. The fight. Who fought for
1:24:29money? Who fought for heart?
1:24:32For money. Connor for heart. Kabib.
1:24:35Okay. Okay. So Putin against the people
1:24:38that sell weapons. Yeah. Who's fighting
1:24:41for his country? Who's fighting for
1:24:44money? Uh see that's the difference.
1:24:48Yeah. But I I'm I'm not very agree with
1:24:51that because I don't think that he is
1:24:53looking only for the for the weapons.
1:24:55You know what I what I mean? How how
1:24:57many uh people dies in the in the war?
1:25:00Like I don't know two
1:25:02200,000. How much weapons they need? I
1:25:05don't know how much money is that in
1:25:07total. No, but how much money did they
1:25:09spend in the weapons in the in in the
1:25:11war with with
1:25:13Ukraine? A lot a lot of money. It's it's
1:25:16in the billions on top of billions. And
1:25:18I'm not talking about Russia or Ukraine.
1:25:20I'm talking about all the people that
1:25:23make those weapons, okay? The General
1:25:25Dynamics, the, you know, uh uh you can
1:25:28list the name of the companies that
1:25:30these guys that sell the weapons. That's
1:25:31a business model. Do you know who
1:25:33Eisenhower is? No. The president of US
1:25:36Eisenhower?
1:25:37No. Okay. So when he was Show me the
1:25:39face maybe. He was a former general. Oh.
1:25:42Many years ago. This is before my time
1:25:43and your time. This is a long time ago.
1:25:46So this guy died in 1969. I was born in
1:25:4878. So this is before my time. When he
1:25:50was done, this guy was a Was he a
1:25:53four-star general, Rob, or a fivestar
1:25:54general? Can you go a little bit lower?
1:25:57Fivear. He was a fivestar general. I
1:25:59mean a five. You know what five star is
1:26:00like? Yeah. I can imagine like we don't
1:26:02have a lot of I don't know how type in
1:26:04how many five-star generals America's
1:26:06had. How many five star How many five
1:26:10star generals has America had? I think
1:26:13it's a few. Okay, there you go. George
1:26:16C. Marshall, Douglas MacArthur,
1:26:18Eisenhower, Henry H. Arnold, and Omar
1:26:21Bradley. Five of them. Okay. Eisenhower
1:26:24is the only one from the five that
1:26:26becomes a president. Okay. When he's
1:26:29done being a president, he's given his
1:26:31last speech. He gives this famous speech
1:26:34that everybody always talks about and he
1:26:36says, "Be very," this is the speech
1:26:38right here. Oh, sure. Okay. I'm very
1:26:40curious about this one. Yeah. Can you
1:26:41play it, Rob? Now, this conjunction of
1:26:44an immense military establishment and a
1:26:46large arms industry is new in the
1:26:49American experience. Large arms
1:26:50industry. Can posit like arms? Like
1:26:53they're selling weapons. It's a large
1:26:55weapons industry. Keep going. The total
1:26:57influence economic, political, even
1:27:00spiritual. There you go. Is felt in
1:27:02every city, every state house, every
1:27:04office of the federal
1:27:06government. We recognize the imperative
1:27:09need for this development. Yet, we must
1:27:11not fail to comprehend its grave
1:27:14implications.
1:27:16Our toil, resources, and livelihood are
1:27:19all involved. So is the very structure
1:27:22of our society.
1:27:24In the councils of government, we must
1:27:26car guard against the acquisition of
1:27:29unwarranted influence, whether sought or
1:27:31unsought. Go back by the the
1:27:33acquisition. So, this is very important.
1:27:36I want to explain this part to you.
1:27:37Ometo, can you come here and explain
1:27:39this? Unwarranted. Ombberto, can you
1:27:41come in here just to explain this part?
1:27:44I think he's going to come here if you
1:27:45can. Can you just translate this part if
1:27:47you could? If you want to give him the
1:27:48mic. So, when he's saying it, just
1:27:51translate the key word. So, the
1:27:53acquisition of unwarranted influence,
1:28:02keep playing it. The acquisition of
1:28:04unwarranted influence, whether sought or
1:28:06unsought by the military industrial
1:28:09complex. Pause it right there.
1:28:16Military-industrial complex.
1:28:19Meaning the the the there is these guys
1:28:22that buy influence politically,
1:28:25economically and spiritually.
1:28:27Militaryindustrial complex by selling
1:28:30weapons. Mhm. So be very careful how
1:28:33much influence those guys have because
1:28:35those guys imagine on the back end they
1:28:37make tens of billions of dollars,
1:28:39hundreds of billions of dollars and they
1:28:41come and they buy politicians. Mhm.
1:28:44Here's $50,000. Here's $100,000. here's
1:28:47$300,000. Here's
1:28:48$200,000. Go make this law or go do this
1:28:53or go do that. The more wars, the more
1:28:56money they make. Okay? So, he's saying
1:28:59when he's done being a president as a
1:29:01five-star general, be very careful with
1:29:03these
1:29:04companies that are going to use their
1:29:07money economically, politically, and
1:29:10spiritually to create and start war. All
1:29:13the narrative. Yeah. So we just to me I
1:29:16used to always like I used to think this
1:29:18way. You know how you grow up you think
1:29:19everything they taught you in school.
1:29:21Mhm. You know how you said like the
1:29:22earth is flat. What did you say? I don't
1:29:24care if the earth is flat or that but
1:29:26there's certain things we're taught
1:29:27right
1:29:29and then later on you're like man I
1:29:32don't know about that. I don't know
1:29:33about this. I don't know about this. And
1:29:34then you know you create your own
1:29:35opinions as you're going through it.
1:29:38There's the core belief there's the
1:29:39values. There's family. There's pride.
1:29:41There's faith. There's God. There's all
1:29:42of that stuff.
1:29:44But sometimes you got to
1:29:46be when people are wanting to poke the
1:29:49bear, you
1:29:51know. Don't get me wrong. Did Putin take
1:29:54advantage of the fact that a weak leader
1:29:55was in America like Biden? Yeah, of
1:29:58course he took advantage of it. Would it
1:30:00have happened with Trump? By the way,
1:30:01what do you think about Trump? Have you
1:30:02met Trump yet? No. No. No. No. I I
1:30:05actually
1:30:06I I I like the hard personality that
1:30:10Yes. the strong personality that Trump
1:30:12represents, you know, he he's like, "We
1:30:16do it this way or we don't do it." And I
1:30:18like that, you know.
1:30:21I don't know. I don't know. He's He's
1:30:23playing his game. Me and you, we can
1:30:26think whatever we want to think. But at
1:30:28the end of the day, I as I said, I vote
1:30:31for peace and I I hope and I I think
1:30:34that Trump is seeking for for the peace
1:30:37for in the world. Even if it doesn't
1:30:39look like that at some point and someone
1:30:42uh I don't know, you see a lot of crazy
1:30:45crazy things in the social media, I
1:30:47really think that he's doing that
1:30:50and and he's looking like for the best
1:30:54interest for the for the United States
1:30:57and this is what he has to do. That's
1:30:58why the people chose him as a as a
1:31:01leader. So you like him? Of course I
1:31:03like him. You haven't met him yet? Not
1:31:05yet. You know, he probably really likes
1:31:07the way you fight. Yeah. You know, he's
1:31:10a big fan of the fight. He watches
1:31:12everything. I know. I never saw him in
1:31:14in in in my fights because he goes
1:31:17sometimes like randomly. I go to this
1:31:19this event, this one. We never at the
1:31:22same time. At the same time. Are you
1:31:24going to this fight or are you going
1:31:25this? You're not going to be there?
1:31:27Okay. Well, if you're in that place,
1:31:29it's going to be crazy. Yeah. That's why
1:31:31that's why you're not going. I'm not
1:31:33going to watch
1:31:36to to
1:31:37like other sporty I don't
1:31:40go. I enjoy my and that's it. Well,
1:31:44listen, you fight Islam, he's going to
1:31:47be at that fight. I think so. I mean, I
1:31:49I listen, of course, if he's got
1:31:51political different things that he's
1:31:52dealing with is he's got a big job. But
1:31:54I think if the two of you guys fight,
1:31:56he's going to tell China. He's going to
1:31:58tell Russia. He's going to tell
1:31:59everybody, "Hey guys, we're not fighting
1:32:00this weekend. No tariffs on anybody.
1:32:03Everybody's good. We're going to get
1:32:04along. I'm going to fight a couple. Let
1:32:06me I want to understand understand some
1:32:08kind of things like you Americans people
1:32:11that live that are living here like
1:32:13what's your perception perception about
1:32:15like what's happening in the in Ukraine
1:32:18what happened in in in in Georgia for I
1:32:20don't know if you know the story like
1:32:22what do you think about all that like I
1:32:24I want to know you your your thoughts
1:32:27specific to what specific to Georgia
1:32:30specific to specific to the world like
1:32:32what what's your prediction what do you
1:32:34think that it's going to happen in the
1:32:35next five five years like so do you know
1:32:37like America was divided in between
1:32:40Ukraine and you know Zalinsky or not
1:32:43Zalinski some some groups were they
1:32:46thought Zillinsky was the greatest hero
1:32:48in the world okay and they were fully
1:32:49supporting uh Zalinski and some people
1:32:53thought Zalinsky was bought and people
1:32:56were just giving money to him and you
1:32:59know a continuous war not necessary
1:33:01every time coming and saying I need more
1:33:03money I need more money Yeah, I need
1:33:05more money. And so American taxpayers
1:33:07are sending money. We're like, wait a
1:33:08minute. We're sending all this money to
1:33:10Ukraine, war with Russia, but we have
1:33:12problems in America right now. Why are
1:33:14we doing this? So there there's a big
1:33:18part of Americans where if support Can
1:33:20you type in Rob where the support was
1:33:22for Do you think it's it's it's easy
1:33:25like like that like how you explaining
1:33:28Zalinski was coming knocking the door. I
1:33:31need money and they were giving the
1:33:33money to him.
1:33:34And do you think do you really think
1:33:37that it happens like that and they they
1:33:39didn't had any interest behind behind
1:33:43that money behind that moment
1:33:46accountability or interest whatever I
1:33:49don't know it's like do you really think
1:33:51that let's say Biden was giving the
1:33:54money to to Zalinski like that I don't
1:33:57know take this take that well whatever
1:34:01Zalinski has Biden had interest with uh
1:34:05with Ukraine that he got in trouble with
1:34:08on a hot mic when he said certain things
1:34:11because they were going after his son.
1:34:12There was some issues that was going on
1:34:14at a time. So there are a lot of things
1:34:16that you see to to see that financially
1:34:20the president may have even benefited
1:34:21from it, may have benefited from it on
1:34:24that deal with Zalinski. And then people
1:34:26on the back end also probably benefited
1:34:28from a little bit of a war. it turns
1:34:30into, you know, it's a $400 billion
1:34:32contract to rebuild Ukraine. That's a
1:34:34lot of money, Ilia. It's a lot of money.
1:34:36So, I I think I think this is what we
1:34:40see, then I think this is what's going
1:34:42on. Yeah. You know, and we don't see
1:34:45this, right? But at the same time, um
1:34:48what we learned the last eight years
1:34:50with the news is you can't trust
1:34:52everything you see. You have to stay
1:34:55skeptical and you have to question a lot
1:34:58of things. And I learned one thing a
1:35:00long time ago, and I I think this this
1:35:02will make sense to
1:35:05you. What's most important to in your
1:35:08life? What's the top five most important
1:35:11things in your life?
1:35:14My family. Okay. um
1:35:19let's say me myself
1:35:21uh my relationship with God my spiritual
1:35:25work
1:35:29uh my job my work I don't know my
1:35:32occupation pride right of course okay
1:35:36and is your pride more Georgia or is it
1:35:39more Spain would you say you're more
1:35:42Georgian it's difficult to choose
1:35:44between mom and dad you Yeah, I know.
1:35:46That's why I ask. Yeah. So, so both are
1:35:49important to you cuz you have both fans,
1:35:51right? They both love you. Okay.
1:35:54But something probably like when when
1:35:58you were a kid, how did you guys look at
1:36:00Russia in a good way? Like, no. Okay.
1:36:03All right. From what age? Probably very
1:36:06young age. Since I was burned. Who can
1:36:08change your mind? Um, I think that it's
1:36:12it's a little bit difficult to to
1:36:14forgive something like that. A lot of my
1:36:16family members were
1:36:18uh lost their lives in in that war. So,
1:36:22how you can forgive that? I agree. So,
1:36:24here's what I learned a long time
1:36:26ago. You know how you said, "What's the
1:36:28point of earth is flat?" Yeah. There's
1:36:31no point of that argument. There's no
1:36:33point here. The reason for it is because
1:36:36it's personal. Do you know what I'm
1:36:38saying? you went through the pain. I
1:36:40don't know that. Just like when I lived
1:36:42in Iran, I went through the pain. And
1:36:46trying to explain it to somebody else,
1:36:47it's like, wait a minute. What do you
1:36:49mean? You don't know what I went
1:36:50through. Just like what you went
1:36:51through, right? So, you
1:36:55know, yeah, as a kid, my dad was my
1:36:58hero. My parents got a divorce. My
1:36:59mother's family, they were communist. I
1:37:01hated it. It was always over money.
1:37:04Always arguing over money. Money caused
1:37:06my parents to get a divorce and
1:37:08politics. I don't want to deal with
1:37:10politics and I'm going to make a lot of
1:37:11money. So my drive to make money was
1:37:14because we had nothing. Okay. Do you see
1:37:17what I'm saying? So now try to convince
1:37:20me that communism is good. You're never
1:37:22going to do it. Of course. Yeah. Me
1:37:26neither. I know. So, but but to me in a
1:37:29situation like this, when talking to
1:37:31somebody that experienced what happened
1:37:33in Georgia, that's why when Patty said
1:37:36what he said to you, it was personal. Of
1:37:38course, it was personal. Yeah. And
1:37:40that's similar to what happened with
1:37:41Connor and Kabib when they were fighting
1:37:44and some of the comments was made.
1:37:46Connor was probably trying to sell the
1:37:48event, but Kabib is not trying to sell
1:37:51the event. I know. I know what you mean.
1:37:54Yeah. So to me, I understand why this is
1:37:56a a important sensitive topic to you and
1:38:00to many people, not just to you, to a
1:38:02lot of different people in the world.
1:38:04But I always watch the people
1:38:06that when my parents were together, I
1:38:10would watch an aunt. She would come to
1:38:12our house when my dad was at
1:38:14work as a kid. I'll never forget this.
1:38:16She would sit there and just go for
1:38:19three hours. I'm a six, seven year old
1:38:21kid. just three hours talking bad things
1:38:23about my dad. Did your husband buy you a
1:38:25necklace? You know, such and such bought
1:38:27such and such wife their necklace. Why
1:38:28doesn't he do that for you? Did he ever
1:38:30take you to dinner? You know, such and
1:38:32such. Did he take you to Italy? You
1:38:33know, such and such. I don't think he
1:38:34takes care of you. Look how beautiful
1:38:36you are. He's lucky to have somebody
1:38:37like you. And I would watch this. And
1:38:40then my dad would come home after
1:38:41working 12 hours, driving 2 hours to
1:38:43work at 8:30. And then my mom would go
1:38:46and scream at him. Boom. And you know
1:38:49who it was? It wasn't my mom. It was
1:38:51that lady. Yeah. Yeah. So to me, I'm
1:38:53very careful with people like that, of
1:38:55course. And it happens in wars and in
1:38:57politics. So that's what I'm saying.
1:38:59When when they say, "Hey, why don't they
1:39:02let him join NATO?" And all this other
1:39:03stuff. I don't know the people behind
1:39:06closed doors that are, "Hey, let me tell
1:39:08you. Hey, let me tell you. Hey, let me
1:39:10tell you." You know, that's the part
1:39:13that at this phase of my life, I'm very
1:39:17careful with. Of course, you can trust
1:39:20closely. Yeah. To anyone to
1:39:24anyone. Me personally, um at this point,
1:39:27um I wouldn't be surprised with with
1:39:31anyone because sometimes you try to go
1:39:34to the top with with with the people
1:39:36that don't even want to see you at the
1:39:38top.
1:39:40Yeah. There was a book called Laws of
1:39:42Human Nature, Robert Green. I think you
1:39:45would like this book. Which one? Uh,
1:39:48Laws of Human Nature by Robert Green.
1:39:50Can you go to images, Rob? Go to images.
1:39:53I read some some of his book. So, you
1:39:57probably read 48 Laws of Power. Yeah.
1:39:59Okay. So, if you read 40 Laws of Power,
1:40:02you will love this. You probably have it
1:40:04translated Spanish, different languages.
1:40:06Yeah, I have it. I have it in Spanish. I
1:40:08You're going to love this. Yeah. But I
1:40:10read the books also in English. I tried.
1:40:12I try to. Yeah. You'll love You love
1:40:13this. Actually, I I I learned my English
1:40:15reading books. You did? Yeah. I was
1:40:18going like, you speak very good. What?
1:40:20You speak very good. I try to. I try to.
1:40:24And I'm not living here. In reality, I
1:40:27don't have any contact with someone that
1:40:29that uh speaks in in English. My wife,
1:40:32she she does. She's from Miami. Yeah.
1:40:35And sometimes we try to speak in in
1:40:39English and we also try to watch some
1:40:41movies but I don't go outside and talk
1:40:44to the people in in English and I try to
1:40:47I don't know read the books and if I
1:40:49don't I I don't understand any word like
1:40:51I try to go word by word. Now I think
1:40:54you you'll love this because he says
1:40:56something in the book. He says, "If you
1:40:58really want to know if someone's your
1:41:00friend or not, test them by telling them
1:41:03some good news and some bad news." Okay?
1:41:06If you tell them bad news, if they get a
1:41:08little bit happy, be very careful with
1:41:10that person. You'll see it on their
1:41:12face. He explains it. And he says, "Give
1:41:14some of your friends a little bit of
1:41:15good news. If you see they get a little
1:41:17bit not happy, be careful with them
1:41:20because they, you know, you know, there
1:41:22are people that are very happy for you
1:41:23no matter what." Yeah. And if something
1:41:25happens to you, they're like, "How can I
1:41:26help? What do you need from me?" Right.
1:41:27You see it immediately. Your family.
1:41:29Yeah. Your well your family. Sometimes
1:41:30your friends as well. Certain friends
1:41:31that are maybe very close. Not a lot of
1:41:33them, but you probably have one or two
1:41:34or three of them like that. He explains
1:41:36that in this book here
1:41:38on, you know, breaking that part down. I
1:41:41will. I think I will read this book.
1:41:44Ilia, I can't wait to see the fight and
1:41:47I can't wait to be there when you guys
1:41:49fight and I can't wait to be there and
1:41:51the president to be there when you guys
1:41:53have that fight. I can't wait for that.
1:41:54But hopefully we we have peace in the
1:41:56world. And hopefully we have peace in
1:41:58the world. And hopefully Oh yeah.
1:42:00Hopefully. Would you ever want to meet
1:42:02Putin? Would you ever want to meet
1:42:03Putin? No. No. Never. What if there's
1:42:06peace?
1:42:08Would you ever want to fight in Russia?
1:42:09What if this fight is in Russia?
1:42:13I wouldn't fight in Russia. Really? So
1:42:16if Islam fights in Russia, you wouldn't
1:42:17fight there? I wouldn't fight. Why is
1:42:19that? Because there's so much place in
1:42:21the world that I could fight. Why I
1:42:23would fight in Russia? I would love to
1:42:26fight in than the United States, but not
1:42:28in Russia. Not in
1:42:30Russia. Actually, I I the only place I
1:42:35would fight is in the United States or
1:42:38in Spain.
1:42:39Got
1:42:41it. But would you ever fight in Russia?
1:42:44No. Never. Never. Have you ever gone to
1:42:46Russia? No. Would you want to visit
1:42:48Russia?
1:42:49I don't want it, but if the destiny
1:42:51wants me to to go or I have to go for
1:42:54some reasons, I would go, but not
1:42:56fighting. Not not putting a show in
1:42:58Russia and working there. I don't know.
1:43:01I would. Yeah. You're so interesting,
1:43:03bro. I would. You're so interesting.
1:43:06Seriously. So interesting the way you
1:43:08are. Yeah. Because I'm telling you, like
1:43:11uh uh we have guys here that uh they
1:43:14absolutely love you. Seriously, like
1:43:16when we're doing like we're going
1:43:17through the podcast, you know, the
1:43:18prepping and talking about it who love
1:43:21you 100%. Like this is this is let me
1:43:24tell you this guy's this is he's a
1:43:26trifecta. He's got the looks he can
1:43:27fight. He's got the confidence all this
1:43:29stuff, right? But just talking to you,
1:43:30you are so interesting. You're locked in
1:43:34here. I don't know. Maybe sometimes it
1:43:37it happens to me also that I switch my
1:43:40mentality. Sometimes I switch my
1:43:43thoughts. Maybe. But at this point right
1:43:46now, you're asking me, this is my
1:43:47answer. I don't know. I I right now I
1:43:49wouldn't fight in in Russia. Okay. Maybe
1:43:52tomorrow. Who knows what's going to
1:43:54happen tomorrow? If you fight in Russia,
1:43:55I'm going to text you. I'm going to say
1:43:56Ilia, why are you fighting in Russia?
1:43:57What's going to happen? Please. When is
1:44:00your birthday? What month's your
1:44:01birthday? January 21st. January 21st.
1:44:04All right. January 21st. Well, brother,
1:44:06um, it's been a pleasure having you on.
1:44:08You're an interesting guy. I'm excited
1:44:10to see you go and get everything you
1:44:13want in life. You know, the the highest
1:44:15paid athlete, the biggest fights,
1:44:18biggest live it there. I I don't like
1:44:20that conversation, but I don't know
1:44:22where I said it and it became like viral
1:44:26that I I said it in reality. You don't
1:44:28really care about that. I don't care
1:44:30about that. You know what I mean? I said
1:44:31it. But God bless everyone. Peace for
1:44:34everyone.
1:44:37There's a place for everyone. So I wish
1:44:40I agree. Yeah. Well, you're competitive.
1:44:42You're competitive, which is okay.
1:44:43Always. Always. I was born like that.
1:44:46Thank you very much. It's been I really
1:44:48really enjoyed it, man. I do it. And I
1:44:51learned a lot of things, my man. Take
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