I Just DEEP-FRIED 2 Muslims BACK-TO-BACK On Jesus Being God — Transcript

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1. 0:00Bible denies that Jesus is God.
2. 0:01>> So in Isaiah 7:14, which is the one you
3. 0:04went to first, does it affirm that Jesus
4. 0:05is God?
5. 0:06>> It affirms that Jesus is the Messiah,
6. 0:07not God.
7. 0:08>> Okay. What does Emanuel mean?
8. 0:09>> Like when you buy anything, the first
9. 0:12thing in the box is Emanuel and it tells
10. 0:15you how to use that stuff.
11. 0:17>> So Emanuel means God with us. So Jesus
12. 0:20is being called God with us, correct?
13. 0:22>> Jesus is called God with us because he's
14. 0:25a
15. 0:25>> cuz he's God.
16. 0:26>> Because he's the Messiah,
17. 0:27>> which is God. You brought me a verse
18. 0:30that says, "How can Allah have a son
19. 0:33when he doesn't have a mate?" Meaning
20. 0:35what?
21. 0:36>> You have to have a consort, a mother to
22. 0:39be a son.
23. 0:40>> So what is the way that Allah could have
24. 0:42a son?
25. 0:42>> He would have to have a consult.
26. 0:44>> Could he do that?
27. 0:45>> Of course.
28. 0:46>> That's right. So what's the point?
29. 0:48>> Why is Jesus the eternal word of Allah
30. 0:50and he's if he's not God?
31. 0:51>> Because God [music] said him to be and
32. 0:52he was.
33. 0:53>> Did Allah create everything else, too?
34. 0:54>> Of course. The Quran says that whenever
35. 0:56Allah decrees a matter, he says to it be
36. 0:58and it is, right?
37. 0:59>> So is everything the word of Allah?
38. 1:01>> Yeah.
39. 1:02>> Why not?
40. 1:06>> No.
41. 1:07>> Yeah.
42. 1:08>> Doing these lives like 4 years ago or
43. 1:10>> did you?
44. 1:10>> Yeah.
45. 1:11>> So do you want a story?
46. 1:14>> Sure.
47. 1:14>> Four years ago I was hesitant to
48. 1:16>> try to talk a little louder.
49. 1:18>> Four years ago I was hesitant to
50. 1:19Instagram Tik Tok stuff. I stole Tik Tok
51. 1:22>> and you pop out on your life. M.
52. 1:25>> So you were doing like who can prove
53. 1:27Prophet Muhammad is in the Bible? Like
54. 1:29you give $2,000, you know?
55. 1:31>> Yeah. Yeah.
56. 1:32>> So I had no idea about anything. So the
57. 1:35reason I started studying Bible is that
58. 1:38day.
59. 1:38>> Wow. Okay. That's pretty cool.
60. 1:40>> So I started that day and today I'm here
61. 1:43with you.
62. 1:44>> Yeah. Nice to meet you, man.
63. 1:46>> Yeah.
64. 1:47>> That's cool.
65. 1:47>> And I like your
66. 1:48>> You like this?
67. 1:49>> Yes. [laughter]
68. 1:50>> And I got another idea.
69. 1:51>> Yeah. So you when you say you just read
70. 1:55>> I count.
71. 1:57>> Okay.
72. 1:58>> So and I have a lot of uh verses for you
73. 2:01cuz you just requested you want verses.
74. 2:03You want verses.
75. 2:04>> Okay.
76. 2:05>> I'll be giving you a lot of verses.
77. 2:06>> That's good.
78. 2:07>> Still up.
79. 2:08>> Can I have a paper and pen?
80. 2:09>> Yeah. Yeah.
81. 2:11>> Okay. Uh so you say
82. 2:16Jesus.
83. 2:18What do you say about Jesus?
84. 2:19>> So Jesus is God. He's the almighty God,
85. 2:21most high God, one in essence with the
86. 2:24father and the spirit.
87. 2:25>> And so if you disagree with that, you
88. 2:28can. But um there's mo multiple verses
89. 2:31like uh Romans 9:5 that says that Jesus
90. 2:33is God above all blessed forever. Titus
91. 2:362:13 where it says that we wait for our
92. 2:39great God and savior Jesus Christ. Um we
93. 2:42have John 1 obviously that says that you
94. 2:44know that Jesus is the word who was God
95. 2:47in the beginning. So we have multiple
96. 2:50verses that are very clear that Jesus is
97. 2:51God in the Bible. And so if you
98. 2:53disagree, I'm willing to hear you out.
99. 2:56>> And uh with previous conversation, you
100. 2:59brought Isaiah 9:6 about being prophecy
101. 3:02of about Jesus, right?
102. 3:03>> That's right.
103. 3:04>> Uh is there another prophecy about Jesus
104. 3:06in Isaiah?
105. 3:07>> Yeah, there's multiple.
106. 3:09>> So uh like you got Isaiah 426 is big
107. 3:14one, right?
108. 3:14>> Yeah, that's a big one.
109. 3:15>> There's another one before that. You got
110. 3:17you got Isaiah 42 is a prophecy about
111. 3:19Jesus. That's a big one. The servant who
112. 3:21God puts his spirit upon
113. 3:23>> who's about uh 7:14.
114. 3:27>> Yep. The virgin birth. Yeah.
115. 3:28>> Yeah.
116. 3:29>> So
117. 3:31you believe in the Bible
118. 3:33>> wholeheartedly.
119. 3:34>> The whole thing, right? Whole thing,
120. 3:35baby.
121. 3:35>> Whatever is in the Bible, you
122. 3:36>> I agree with it. Yeah.
123. 3:38>> So when you say Isaiah 7:14,
124. 3:42was this Isaiah 7:14 all the time? Even
125. 3:46during the ma during Matthew
126. 3:48>> during what?
127. 3:49>> During times of Matthew.
128. 3:51>> Yes.
129. 3:52>> Was it Isaiah 7:14 by that time?
130. 3:54>> Yes.
131. 3:55>> So when Matthew says uh
132. 4:00when in Matthew it's written that angel
133. 4:04came and said you will name him Jesus.
134. 4:08>> Mhm. Was Isaiah talking about Matthew
135. 4:13talking about Isaiah 7:14?
136. 4:16>> Well, he says that this was to fulfill
137. 4:18Isaiah the prophet and he quotes Isaiah
138. 4:207:14.
139. 4:21>> So, was that time the prophecy in the
140. 4:25Isaiah 7:14?
141. 4:26>> Yeah. Isaiah 7:14 said that the virgin
142. 4:29shall give birth to a son and you shall
143. 4:31name him Emanuel.
144. 4:33>> So, uh
145. 4:34>> which means God with us. Like during
146. 4:38Matthew there was no Bible, right?
147. 4:40>> No, they yet they had the Old Testament.
148. 4:42>> They had it, but there was no Bible we
149. 4:44have today.
150. 4:45>> There was no New Testament yet, but they
151. 4:47had the Old Testament.
152. 4:48>> So even the Old Testament the way we see
153. 4:52today, it wasn't like that. Like there
154. 4:54was no Isaiah 7:14.
155. 4:56>> Oh, so do you mean like uh it wasn't did
156. 4:59it didn't have chapter divisions? Is
157. 5:00that what you're saying? Okay. Sure. So
158. 5:02there was no chapter 7 and there was
159. 5:04>> it was just it was just the scroll of
160. 5:06Isaiah.
161. 5:06>> Yeah. It was just all over the the whole
162. 5:08thing was one text, right?
163. 5:10>> Yeah.
164. 5:11>> So
165. 5:12uh so it was Isaiah
166. 5:1674,
167. 5:18right? Isaiah 7:14.
168. 5:22So if Isaiah 7:14 is about uh Jesus
169. 5:29so I told you about counting right so
170. 5:33these are numbers 7 1 and four okay
171. 5:39so wherever you see these numbers
172. 5:42altogether
173. 5:44it relates to the prophecy of Isaiah
174. 5:477:14
175. 5:49>> I disagree but okay I don't That's the
176. 5:52>> Can you open uh Isaiah 40 verse17?
177. 5:57>> Okay.
178. 5:58>> I said I'm going to give you a lot of
179. 6:00verses.
180. 6:01>> Does this have to do with Jesus being
181. 6:02God?
182. 6:03>> Yes.
183. 6:04>> Okay.
184. 6:06As long as it has to do with Jesus being
185. 6:07God, man, I'm all for it. All right. It
186. 6:09says, "All the nations are as nothing
187. 6:11before him. They are accounted
188. 6:14uh by him as less than nothing in
189. 6:16emptiness."
190. 6:17>> Next one.
191. 6:19>> Next one. What? Next verse. Yeah.
192. 6:21>> Uh to whom then will you liken God?
193. 6:24>> Or what likeness compare with him?
194. 6:27>> Yeah. So what does this verse says?
195. 6:30>> That there's no one like God.
196. 6:31>> Yeah. So to who you will make liken the
197. 6:34God.
198. 6:34>> Yeah. There's no one like God.
199. 6:35>> So yeah. Now do Isaiah 74:17.
200. 6:407217. Exactly same numbers.
201. 6:43>> 217.
202. 6:45>> Uh 42:17.
203. 6:47>> Okay. All right. they are turned back
204. 6:49and utterly put to shame who trust in
205. 6:51carved idols who say to metal images you
206. 6:54are our gods.
207. 6:57>> So he's talking again about to whom they
208. 6:59will liken the god right idols.
209. 7:02>> Um no it's just talking about how god is
210. 7:06going to uh crush those who are
211. 7:09believing in false gods believing in
212. 7:12idols.
213. 7:12>> Okay now do Isaiah 44:17.
214. 7:15Okay, brother. Brother, I hope this is
215. 7:18coming to a point, man.
216. 7:19>> Yes, it does.
217. 7:20>> All right, so Isaiah 44. How many more
218. 7:22verses do you have?
219. 7:24>> A lot.
220. 7:24>> A lot.
221. 7:25>> Now, we're we're going to have to
222. 7:26>> get to a point.
223. 7:27>> Yeah. So, when [clears throat] you when
224. 7:29you tell me that these numbers are all
225. 7:32related to false gods, then we're going
226. 7:34to can stop.
227. 7:35>> No, I didn't say that they're related to
228. 7:36false gods.
229. 7:37>> I said,
230. 7:38>> okay. But when you see that it is, then
231. 7:41you can say, "Okay, uh, I see it's
232. 7:44related to false gods."
233. 7:45>> You're just going to keep giving verses
234. 7:46until he says.
235. 7:48>> No, we're not doing that.
236. 7:49>> Doesn't have to. But
237. 7:50>> what's the verse in chapter 40? Uh, 44.
238. 7:53>> 44:17.
239. 7:55>> Okay. All right. Let's let this be the
240. 7:57last one and then let's let's get to the
241. 7:59point here. So, it says uh, "And the
242. 8:02rest of it he makes into Okay. So, it's
243. 8:05talking about how they carve idols into,
244. 8:07you know, out of wood and stuff like
245. 8:09that. Let's just read a little bit
246. 8:10before. Um,
247. 8:13the iron smith takes a cutting tool and
248. 8:15works it over the coals. He fashions it
249. 8:18with hammers and works it with his
250. 8:19strong arm. He becomes hungry [snorts]
251. 8:21and his strength fails. He drinks no
252. 8:23water and is faint. The carpenter
253. 8:25stretches a line. He marks it with a
254. 8:27with uh marks it out with a pencil. He
255. 8:29shapes it [snorts]
256. 8:30with planes and marks it with a compass.
257. 8:33He shapes it into a figure of a man with
258. 8:36the beauty of a man to dwell in a house.
259. 8:38He cuts down cedars or he chooses a
260. 8:41cyprress tree or an oak and lets it grow
261. 8:44strong among the trees of the forest. He
262. 8:47plants a cedar and the rain nourishes
263. 8:49it. Then he becomes then it becomes fuel
264. 8:51for a man. He takes it apart. He takes a
265. 8:54part of it and makes it into an idol and
266. 8:57falls down before it. Half of it he
267. 8:59burns in a fire. over the half. He eats
268. 9:03meat. He roasts it and it satis and it
269. 9:06is satisfied. I'm sorry and is satisfied
270. 9:09also. He warms himself and says, "Aha, I
271. 9:11am warm. I have seen the fire." [snorts]
272. 9:14And the rest of it he he uh the rest of
273. 9:16it he makes into a god, his idol, and
274. 9:19falls down to it and worships it. He
275. 9:22prays to it and says, "Deliver me for
276. 9:24you are my god." Okay, so it looks like
277. 9:26you're appealing to idol worship and
278. 9:28stuff like that. So,
279. 9:29>> so these numbers all over the Bible,
280. 9:32>> they talk about false gods.
281. 9:34>> No, they don't.
282. 9:36>> You can open Deuteron Deuteronomy.
283. 9:38>> Oh, okay. So,
284. 9:40>> we just read Isaiah Isaiah 7:14.
285. 9:43>> Isaiah I started with Isaiah because the
286. 9:45prophecy is in Isaiah, right?
287. 9:46>> Yeah. So, that's not a false god. That's
288. 9:48a true God. That's the true God.
289. 9:50>> But did we read that verses that have
290. 9:53these numbers?
291. 9:54>> We read verses that have these numbers
292. 9:55that talk about idols and statutes.
293. 9:57>> Okay. but not about
294. 9:59>> so the true value why it is like that
295. 10:03because this number is supposed to be
296. 10:07not about God it's number
297. 10:10>> that's not true at all brother
298. 10:11>> okay so one more video
299. 10:13>> can you can you do can you do me this
300. 10:15favor instead of doing this now
301. 10:17>> can we get into like how is Jesus a
302. 10:19false god
303. 10:20>> okay
304. 10:20>> okay what what makes Jesus a false god
305. 10:21>> we'll do look look
306. 10:23>> no no no what makes Jesus a false god
307. 10:24please
308. 10:25>> 471
309. 10:27one, it says why Jesus is not false god.
310. 10:30>> God, what makes Jesus a false god?
311. 10:31Please, let's get let's we I I went
312. 10:33through your trail and everything like
313. 10:35that. So, let's get to it now.
314. 10:36>> Bible says that Jesus is a false god.
315. 10:38>> Show me where it says he's a false god.
316. 10:39>> That Jesus is false god. This
317. 10:41>> Oh, the Quran says Jesus is a false god.
318. 10:42>> You know the surah, right?
319. 10:44>> Just really quick, you said that the
320. 10:45Quran says Jesus is a false god.
321. 10:48>> Quran says Jesus is not God.
322. 10:50>> Oh, no. Okay. Those are two different
323. 10:52statements. So saying that Jesus is not
324. 10:55God and saying Jesus is a false God are
325. 10:57two different things. Does the Quran say
326. 10:58Jesus is a false God or does it just
327. 11:00deny he's God at all?
328. 11:02>> Denies he's not he's not
329. 11:03>> it dies he's God. Okay. All right. But
330. 11:05you're saying you're saying just really
331. 11:07quick you're saying the Bible says that
332. 11:09Jesus is a false God or does the Bible
333. 11:11deny Jesus is God?
334. 11:12>> Bible denies that Jesus is God as well.
335. 11:15>> Okay. So in Isaiah 7:14 which is the one
336. 11:18you went to first does it affirm that
337. 11:20Jesus is God? It affirms that Jesus is
338. 11:22the Messiah, not God.
339. 11:23>> Okay. What does Emanuel mean?
340. 11:25>> I know, but not as you or what
341. 11:28Christianity thinks it is.
342. 11:29>> But just what does Emanuel mean?
343. 11:32>> So can you first do this and we will
344. 11:35continue.
345. 11:35>> What does the word Emanuel mean?
346. 11:37>> I will tell you,
347. 11:38>> please.
348. 11:38>> I will tell you. Surah 171. You know
349. 11:40what the surah 47?
350. 11:42>> Yeah. Yeah. Can you What does Emanuel
351. 11:44mean?
352. 11:45So,
353. 11:48Emmanuel,
354. 11:50I count. I told you, right? You know
355. 11:52what? I'm
356. 11:53>> What does Emanuel mean?
357. 11:56>> Today, Emmanuel,
358. 11:57>> not today.
359. 11:59What does Emanuel mean, bro? [sighs]
360. 12:02>> Okay, I have to
361. 12:05uh
362. 12:08We did this, right? 714. You need to
363. 12:12check one more. 7
364. 12:154171.
365. 12:17Can you open the Quran?
366. 12:18>> What does what does
367. 12:19>> Can you open the Quran?
368. 12:20>> What does Emanuel mean?
369. 12:21>> 7 as surah 4.
370. 12:24>> What does Emanuel mean?
371. 12:26>> E manual means uh an instructor.
372. 12:31Like when you buy anything, the first
373. 12:33thing in the box is a manual and it
374. 12:36tells you how to use that stuff.
375. 12:38>> I'm sorry, brother.
376. 12:39>> So when Jesus
377. 12:40>> Stop.
378. 12:41>> Why are you guys laughing?
379. 12:42>> Stop. Stop. So, so um not not not a not
380. 12:46a manual like a instruction manual.
381. 12:47>> I know, but that's what it is. No, no,
382. 12:49listen. That's why listen. You're not
383. 12:51listening. In Isaiah,
384. 12:52>> I'm trying to help you.
385. 12:54>> I'm helping you.
386. 12:55>> The word is not the word I'm asking you
387. 12:56about is not Manuel like a like a like a
388. 13:00book of instruction.
389. 13:01>> Emmanuel.
390. 13:03>> Emmanuel.
391. 13:04>> Emanuel. It's in Greek.
392. 13:05>> No, the Hebrew. It's in Hebrew.
393. 13:07>> But it's in the Greek. They wrote it in
394. 13:09the Greek.
395. 13:09>> No. No.
396. 13:09>> Which means God with us.
397. 13:11>> Okay, there you go.
398. 13:12>> Yeah.
399. 13:12>> All right. So, Emmanuel means God with
400. 13:15us. Yeah. So, Jesus is being called God
401. 13:17with us. Correct?
402. 13:18>> Jesus is called God with us because he's
403. 13:21a
404. 13:21>> because he's God.
405. 13:22>> Because he's the Messiah,
406. 13:24>> which is God. He's God.
407. 13:26>> No, he's not God.
408. 13:27>> Okay. So, if the scripture calls him God
409. 13:29with us,
410. 13:30>> Mhm.
411. 13:31>> explicitly, but you're saying, "Well,
412. 13:33no, he's actually not God. He's just a
413. 13:35mere messenger." So it seems to me that
414. 13:38I have the scripture on my side and the
415. 13:41714 number points to the true God and
416. 13:45not a false god.
417. 13:46>> Okay. So you know the four surah 471
418. 13:50say okay and what does surah 457 say
419. 13:54which is
420. 13:55>> it talks about it talks about the
421. 13:56crucifixion.
422. 13:57>> Yes.
423. 13:58>> So what does that those don't even
424. 13:59relate.
425. 14:00>> Yeah. So when these numbers are
426. 14:05>> in the mind,
427. 14:06>> you come on guys. [laughter]
428. 14:08>> Okay.
429. 14:10Okay. Let's do 96 then.
430. 14:13>> No, I want to follow you here. I'll put
431. 14:15you.
432. 14:16>> All right.
433. 14:16>> You want to you want to read 4171?
434. 14:19>> Do not excess in your religion, but say
435. 14:21only about Allah except the truth.
436. 14:22>> Same as in Isaiah 40. The previous
437. 14:26verses you read.
438. 14:27>> This doesn't No, they don't relate at
439. 14:28all.
440. 14:29>> 40:17. You just read about idols. 4217
441. 14:32you read about idols
442. 14:34>> in the Quran. Same thing. 4171 talks
443. 14:37about don't uh call Jesus God.
444. 14:40>> No, it doesn't
445. 14:43read 417.
446. 14:44>> Yeah. 4171 says, "Do not excess in your
447. 14:46religion ex say about Allah except the
448. 14:48truth."
449. 14:49>> Jesus the son of Mary,
450. 14:50>> yes,
451. 14:51>> was a messenger of Allah and his word
452. 14:54that he cast down to Mary
453. 14:56>> and a spirit from him.
454. 14:58>> Right. Yeah. And don't say three.
455. 14:59>> So don't say three for God is only one
456. 15:02God.
457. 15:02>> What does it means?
458. 15:03>> It means that there's that there's only
459. 15:05one God. Don't say there's three gods.
460. 15:08Yeah.
461. 15:08>> Right. It didn't say anything about deny
462. 15:11not saying Jesus is God or anything like
463. 15:12that. It just denies that there's three
464. 15:14gods.
465. 15:14>> This ayah means that don't say Jesus is
466. 15:16God.
467. 15:17>> Oh, that's what it's about.
468. 15:18>> Yeah.
469. 15:19>> Is Allah's word created?
470. 15:21>> H
471. 15:21>> is Allah's word created?
472. 15:23>> Allah's word created.
473. 15:25>> Yeah. Is the word of Allah
474. 15:27>> created
475. 15:27>> is the word of Allah created?
476. 15:30>> No. Allah created the word
477. 15:33>> is is um so the word of Allah, right?
478. 15:38Was there
479. 15:38>> you mean the name?
480. 15:39>> No, the word the word of Allah, not the
481. 15:41word Allah, but the word of Allah
482. 15:43>> like every the speech of Allah, right?
483. 15:46>> The word of Allah.
484. 15:48>> Was there ever a time that the word of
485. 15:50Allah came into existence?
486. 15:53>> Yes. So there was a point in time where
487. 15:56Allah did not have his word.
488. 15:59>> No. Cuz in the beginning,
489. 16:02you coming to John, gospel of John.
490. 16:04>> No, I'm not in John. I'm talking about
491. 16:06>> Yes. So in the beginning, uh when God
492. 16:08created everything, he was created the
493. 16:10word
494. 16:11>> through the word. Okay. So then the word
495. 16:13of Allah has always been correct.
496. 16:17>> Maybe.
497. 16:18>> Okay. So if Jesus is the word of Allah
498. 16:21>> Mhm. And the word of Allah has always
499. 16:24been. That would mean that Jesus has
500. 16:27always been.
501. 16:28>> But it doesn't have to be Jesus. It's
502. 16:32>> Allah.
503. 16:33>> It says that Jesus is Allah's word.
504. 16:34>> Well, Allah said Jesus be like Adam.
505. 16:38>> No, it doesn't say that about Jesus.
506. 16:40>> It says exactly as Adam and Jesus.
507. 16:43>> It says that the likeness of it says the
508. 16:45likeness of of of Jesus is the likeness
509. 16:48of Adam. Yeah.
510. 16:49>> To Adam, he said to him, "Be and it is."
511. 16:52>> Mhm.
512. 16:52>> I'm sorry. He created him from u uh from
513. 16:55the mud or whatever and said, "Be and
514. 16:58be." And he was, right?
515. 16:59>> Yes.
516. 17:00>> But that didn't happen with Jesus.
517. 17:02>> He came to angel came to Maria.
518. 17:06>> Yeah. That's that's a human nature. I'm
519. 17:08talking I'm talking about before that
520. 17:09>> by the command of Allah.
521. 17:10>> No, but I'm talking about before that.
522. 17:12Before that, before he comes into the
523. 17:14flesh, even in the Quran, he's
524. 17:16identified as Allah's word.
525. 17:18which according to you which I agree
526. 17:20with you has always been. So if Jesus is
527. 17:23Allah's word that would mean that Jesus
528. 17:26has always been.
529. 17:28>> Jesus is Allah's word. Allah said Jesus
530. 17:30be and Jesus was.
531. 17:31>> But is Adam Allah's word?
532. 17:33>> Yeah.
533. 17:34>> Can you show me the verse that says that
534. 17:35Adam is the word of Allah?
535. 17:37>> No. He says it was likeness. He doesn't
536. 17:39say.
537. 17:39>> So Adam is not the word of Allah. Right.
538. 17:42>> By the word of Allah. He doesn't have
539. 17:44>> Exactly. He's created by the word. I got
540. 17:46I'm with you. He's created by the word
541. 17:47of Allah. He's not identified as the
542. 17:49word itself. Right? There's a
543. 17:52difference. That's like me saying, um, I
544. 17:55snap my finger and then boom, this water
545. 17:57bottle. This water bottle is not my
546. 17:59snap. Those are two different things.
547. 18:01This water bottle came by my snap.
548. 18:04Right? So, what I'm asking you, Jesus,
549. 18:06the Quran says Jesus is the word, the
550. 18:09snap, and then poof, things come.
551. 18:12>> That's just the doctrine that you were
552. 18:14taught.
553. 18:14>> No, I'm reading. I'm talking about the
554. 18:15Quran.
555. 18:17>> The Quran, brother.
556. 18:19>> It's okay. So, if Jesus is all Can we
557. 18:22agree that the Quran explicitly says
558. 18:24that Jesus is Allah's word?
559. 18:274171. Remember those numbers?
560. 18:33>> I'm not familiar with that part. The
561. 18:35question you asking me about maybe I'm
562. 18:37not understanding. I can't say if we
563. 18:38are.
564. 18:39>> All right, brother. When we read the
565. 18:40verse, it says that Jesus is a messenger
566. 18:43of Allah. Walimatu
567. 18:46and his word, right?
568. 18:49>> Yeah. His word meaning that God
569. 18:51commanded him to
570. 18:52>> No, it doesn't say that though. It
571. 18:53doesn't say he commanded Jesus. It says
572. 18:55Jesus is the word.
573. 18:56>> That's the word of God. The command is
574. 18:58the word.
575. 18:59>> It does. Okay. I I I I think you're
576. 19:01missing it. The verse does not say that
577. 19:03the command is Allah's word. It says
578. 19:06Jesus is Allah's word.
579. 19:09You understand?
580. 19:11Jesus is identical to the word of Allah.
581. 19:13That's what the verse says.
582. 19:16So if Jesus is Allah's word, then Jesus
583. 19:19has always been and is more than human.
584. 19:21He has to be God.
585. 19:22>> Jesus is not God. It doesn't has to be
586. 19:24Jesus.
587. 19:24>> Then why is he the eternal word of
588. 19:26Allah?
589. 19:26>> Okay. So the prophecy 96 when you're
590. 19:29talking about Jesus, it's not about
591. 19:31Jesus.
592. 19:34When you say mighty God, everlasting
593. 19:36father, it doesn't mean it's Jesus.
594. 19:38>> It's a nice switch.
595. 19:41Why is Jesus the eternal word of Allah?
596. 19:42And he's if he's not God
597. 19:44>> because God said him to be and he was.
598. 19:45>> He said the same thing to Adam. Is Adam
599. 19:47the word of Allah?
600. 19:48>> Yeah.
601. 19:48>> Show the verse.
602. 19:49>> Well, it's not written.
603. 19:51>> Then why are you making stuff up?
604. 19:52>> I'm not making that stuff up.
605. 19:54>> So where do you get it from that Adam is
606. 19:55the word of Allah?
607. 19:56>> Because God created Adam.
608. 19:58>> Did it did Allah create everything else
609. 20:00too?
610. 20:01>> Of course.
611. 20:02>> When the the Quran says that whenever
612. 20:03Allah decrees a matter, he says to it be
613. 20:05and it is. Right.
614. 20:06>> So is everything the word of Allah?
615. 20:08>> Yeah.
616. 20:10>> Why not? Everything is by God. Right.
617. 20:12You're you're going outside of your
618. 20:13Quran, brother. You're butchering the
619. 20:14verses. I'm trying to help you.
620. 20:16>> Okay. You wanna try this 96?
621. 20:18>> Yeah, we can move on.
622. 20:19>> Yeah, let's end with 96. We're like 15
623. 20:21minutes in. So,
624. 20:22>> yeah, that's good. So,
625. 20:24uh in
626. 20:30John 14:16, right?
627. 20:32>> Okay.
628. 20:32>> No, it's John 16:14.
629. 20:35>> All right. So
630. 20:37if we said Isaiah 7:14 is Jesus.
631. 20:42Okay.
632. 20:43>> Mhm.
633. 20:45>> So 7
634. 20:48+ 9
635. 20:5196. How much is this?
636. 20:53>> 16
637. 20:54>> and
638. 20:58>> oh plus
639. 20:59>> uh 14 16 right
640. 21:0216
641. 21:0416. Okay. 166.
642. 21:08Okay. No, I'm not going to this one. I'm
643. 21:09going to do the other one.
644. 21:12>> Yeah. One second. One second. Okay.
645. 21:14Okay. So,
646. 21:17714 is Jesus and 96 is also Jesus,
647. 21:21right?
648. 21:23[snorts]
649. 21:23>> Mhm.
650. 21:25>> What is going to be?
651. 21:28>> 9 714 is going to be
652. 21:31>> I don't know who
653. 21:32>> 1614, right? Yeah. Okay.
654. 21:35>> So, John 16:14.
655. 21:37What does John 16:14 say?
656. 21:39>> It talks about how the spirit is going
657. 21:41to glorify him.
658. 21:42>> So, Jesus talking about Prophet
659. 21:44Muhammad.
660. 21:45>> No, it's talking about the Holy Spirit.
661. 21:47>> Okay. So, now we do this one 796 going
662. 21:50to be 166. Okay. You want to open uh
663. 21:55Quran 616?
664. 21:57>> No, no need. It talks about how it talks
665. 21:59about Jesus mentions that Ahmed comes
666. 22:01after. So here Jesus talking about
667. 22:03prophecy Isaiah 9:6 and it's in John
668. 22:0616:14.
669. 22:08>> The prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 is has
670. 22:10nothing to do with John 16:14. Bro,
671. 22:12>> here you go. 9 + 7 14 16:14.
672. 22:16>> All right, brother. We We can rest it
673. 22:18here.
674. 22:18>> Let's move on here.
675. 22:19>> Yeah.
676. 22:20>> Why not?
677. 22:21>> I I I don't that that that doesn't work,
678. 22:23brother.
679. 22:24>> Because you uh resist the check.
680. 22:26>> Yeah.
681. 22:27>> Okay. [clears throat] So you resisted?
682. 22:28>> Yeah, I resisted. All right.
683. 22:30>> I'm very very happy to be here.
684. 22:34So the prompt is Jesus is God. Now the
685. 22:37Quran gives me a simple
686. 22:41test question to quiz you all.
687. 22:44>> Okay.
688. 22:44>> And Jesus being God in chapter 6 verse
689. 22:47101.
690. 22:48The Quran says [clears throat]
691. 22:50>> how could he have a son?
692. 22:52>> How can he have a son if he doesn't
693. 22:54know?
694. 22:55>> I'd like to see how you get past that.
695. 22:59me.
696. 23:00>> How do I get past that question?
697. 23:02>> How do you get past that question?
698. 23:04>> That's not a question for me.
699. 23:05>> To make him go, son of God.
700. 23:07>> Brother, you just you just proved Allah
701. 23:08is not because you just you just
702. 23:10demonstrated that Allah needs a concept.
703. 23:13He needs help in order to have a son. He
704. 23:14couldn't do it by himself.
705. 23:16>> Jesus is God by being the son of God. Am
706. 23:19I correct?
707. 23:20>> No, that's not
708. 23:20>> according to your
709. 23:21>> No, Jesus is God because he possesses
710. 23:23divine essence.
711. 23:24>> How does he get the essence? Are you
712. 23:26denying?
713. 23:27>> What do you mean? How does he get the
714. 23:28essence? Are you denying his sunship?
715. 23:29>> How does Allah get the essence?
716. 23:31>> That's [clears throat] not the topic.
717. 23:32That's not
718. 23:32>> That's like asking me to say, "How does
719. 23:34God get his essence?"
720. 23:35>> Sir,
721. 23:37>> is Jesus God because he's the son of
722. 23:38God? Is Jesus God cuz he's the son of
723. 23:41God or not?
724. 23:41>> Jesus is God. I'll answer your question
725. 23:43again. It's my second time answer. Jesus
726. 23:45is God because he possesses the divine
727. 23:47essence.
728. 23:47>> How does he possess it?
729. 23:49>> He's God. That's like asking how does
730. 23:51Allah possess the divine essence?
731. 23:53>> So his sunship is not how Jesus is God.
732. 23:55He's not the son. He's God by virtue of
733. 23:57having the divine essence.
734. 23:59>> Is he still the son of God?
735. 24:00>> Always.
736. 24:02>> There you go. And that's the Quran is
737. 24:04asking
738. 24:06>> how have a son.
739. 24:10>> If he has no concern, I'll ask a
740. 24:11question again.
741. 24:12>> According to the Quran, Allah can have a
742. 24:14son if he chooses. Right.
743. 24:15>> I'm asking you. You're
744. 24:17>> I know. So, you're bringing the you're
745. 24:18bringing the Quran to try being right
746. 24:20now.
747. 24:20>> Yes.
748. 24:22>> Yes. As a human being, you just
749. 24:23demonstrated that your God is not all
750. 24:24powerful. He needs help to have a son.
751. 24:26>> Maybe Hindu God. It doesn't matter. How
752. 24:28can God have a son if he doesn't have a
753. 24:31consort? I'm asking the third time. It's
754. 24:33a simple question.
755. 24:34>> I don't understand how this is argument
756. 24:36against. No, it's not
757. 24:37>> because it's going to debunk his
758. 24:38assumption. Debunk absolutely debunk his
759. 24:41assumption.
760. 24:41>> Okay. So, according to Christian,
761. 24:43according to Christianity, let me let me
762. 24:45ask you, bro. According to Christianity,
763. 24:48uh God doesn't need a consort. He
764. 24:49doesn't have to have sex in order to
765. 24:50have a son, but he can be get a son from
766. 24:54his own essence. So, the father begets
767. 24:56the son from his uh from his own self.
768. 24:58He doesn't have to go and sleep around
769. 25:00with another divine being in order to
770. 25:02have a son. Which is what the Quran's
771. 25:04understanding is is that Allah needs a
772. 25:07mate in order to have a son. So
773. 25:09therefore, Allah is not all powerful. He
774. 25:11cannot he can't just be get a son of his
775. 25:13own essence. He has to have sex in order
776. 25:17to have a son. You have to have a mate,
777. 25:20a consort.
778. 25:21>> All right. So,
779. 25:22>> all right. So, everybody lost that gun.
780. 25:23>> So, this is the problem we have with
781. 25:24Christianity because Christianity does
782. 25:26not follow logic. Words have meanings.
783. 25:29>> Okay.
784. 25:30>> Son is a masculine term.
785. 25:32>> Okay.
786. 25:33>> Son necessitates
787. 25:35masculine and female. Two poles. That's
788. 25:38what son means. Same thing with father.
789. 25:41[clears throat]
790. 25:42>> Father necessitates mother. These are
791. 25:44polar. M
792. 25:46>> now you've created the sun without the
793. 25:49polar concepts pole. How is this
794. 25:52possible in logical? That's a good
795. 25:53question. Another illogical thing in
796. 25:55Christianity.
797. 25:56>> It's amazing. You're aware that that God
798. 25:58calls Israel his firstborn son to
799. 26:01Pharaoh. Correct.
800. 26:03>> It's metaphorical.
801. 26:04>> Oh,
802. 26:05>> absolutely.
803. 26:05>> Wait, but you just told me that son and
804. 26:09words have meaning. That was his
805. 26:10argument. Words have meaning. And so to
806. 26:13be a son, it's the opposite of being
807. 26:16female, which would then also
808. 26:18necessitate procreative. You need a
809. 26:20female to procreate with a male to have
810. 26:23a son. You just said to me words have
811. 26:26meaning. But you just threw that away by
812. 26:28acknowledging that you can be a son in a
813. 26:31way that doesn't entail procreation.
814. 26:34So, just like Israel in a way is a son
815. 26:37of God that doesn't entail procreation,
816. 26:40Christ is the son of God in a real way
817. 26:43that doesn't entail procreation because
818. 26:45God doesn't need to procreate.
819. 26:48>> You have it folks. Uh he equated Jesus's
820. 26:51sunship with Israel's sunship, which is
821. 26:55>> Don't misreade Jesus a metaphorical son
822. 26:58of God. It it's it's amazing how Muslims
823. 27:00do this when I say things and it's like
824. 27:03it's like what you guys have to do in
825. 27:05order to have a point. You have to
826. 27:07misrepresent the position instead of
827. 27:09deal with it. I did not equate the
828. 27:11sunship of Christ to Israel. I said in a
829. 27:14way just like how you can have a son
830. 27:17that's not literal, right? Not in a a
831. 27:20procreative sense. Jesus can be a son in
832. 27:23a nonprocreative sense. That's not me
833. 27:26saying that Jesus is the son of God in
834. 27:28the same way Israel is cuz I made it
835. 27:30clear that it's not. I said that Israel
836. 27:32is a son metaphorically by nation. God
837. 27:34birthed them as a nation. Jesus is the
838. 27:36son, the begotten son of God that he
839. 27:38begins from his own self.
840. 27:41>> So the Israel
841. 27:41>> no procreation.
842. 27:42>> The Israel example doesn't work.
843. 27:45>> Does he It's like let me do this. Let me
844. 27:48do this again for you slowly.
845. 27:50>> You said you said words have meaning,
846. 27:52did you not?
847. 27:53>> Absolutely. And so you said to be son,
848. 27:55you were saying that that has a literal
849. 27:56meaning. Correct.
850. 27:57>> Absolutely.
851. 27:58>> So then why did I bring up Israel's
852. 28:00sunship?
853. 28:00>> That's an example of a metaphorical.
854. 28:02>> So destroying your entire point that
855. 28:04words have to have literal meaning.
856. 28:06Correct.
857. 28:06>> Israel and metaphorical meaning.
858. 28:08>> So when you So when Oh, hold on a
859. 28:09second. So when you said words have
860. 28:12meaning and you're appealing to literal
861. 28:14a literal way that it has to be
862. 28:16procreation. That's the only way it can
863. 28:18happen. When I just showed you and you
864. 28:20conceded that you can have sunship
865. 28:22that's without procreation. This whole
866. 28:24words have meaning principle that you
867. 28:25have is out the window. Context
868. 28:27determines the meaning. So what you
869. 28:29should be asking me is in what context
870. 28:32is Jesus the son of God?
871. 28:34>> You can try again. The Israel example.
872. 28:36>> No, you can try again.
873. 28:37>> You see the Israel example didn't work.
874. 28:39You pulled it back. Words have meanings.
875. 28:41You can use words literally or you could
876. 28:44use words metaphorically. You gave a
877. 28:46metaphorical function for example. It
878. 28:48doesn't work. You don't pull
879. 28:49[clears throat] it back and give us
880. 28:50another
881. 28:51explanation of how God can have a son.
882. 28:55>> Is the only way to have a son to be uh
883. 28:57to procreate?
884. 28:57>> Absolutely.
885. 28:58>> So then why did you have
886. 28:59>> literal son?
887. 29:00>> Okay. So in order to have a literal son,
888. 29:02he can pro you have to procreate.
889. 29:04>> You and you have to have son daughter.
890. 29:06>> So why does Allah say that he can have a
891. 29:08son if he if he chose from any of his
892. 29:10creation?
893. 29:10>> He said he could pick. That is
894. 29:12>> absolutely. He said, "Oh, it's
895. 29:14adoption." It doesn't say that.
896. 29:16It says what? It's an actual son of
897. 29:18Allah.
898. 29:18>> It says that's adoption.
899. 29:20>> It doesn't say ads.
900. 29:22>> It says if No, it doesn't. It says it
901. 29:25says if Allah had willed If Allah had
902. 29:28willed to have a son, he could have
903. 29:30chosen from any of his creation. What
904. 29:32does that mean? To have a son with
905. 29:35>> adoption.
906. 29:35>> That's not adoption.
907. 29:37>> I could go from any of my creation.
908. 29:39That's [clears throat] adoption. Back
909. 29:41again. You're playing to hate the Quran.
910. 29:45I love these guys. I love the Quran and
911. 29:47in every sentence in every statement he
912. 29:49said I could have picked chosen
913. 29:52>> from anything I created I could choose
914. 29:54>> so Allah so Allah could have sex
915. 29:56>> he can choose a son
916. 29:57>> could have sex could Allah have sex
917. 29:59>> he didn't say choose the lakes
918. 30:00>> could Allah have sex with
919. 30:02>> could Allah have sex
920. 30:03>> of course not wait I'm confused
921. 30:06>> you have to explain
922. 30:07>> you brought me I'm sorry that's you
923. 30:09brought me a verse that says how can
924. 30:13Allah have a son when he doesn't have a
925. 30:15mate
926. 30:16Meaning what? How could he have a son?
927. 30:18>> Meaning son necessitates
928. 30:22a pole. You have to have a consult. A
929. 30:25mother to be a son.
930. 30:27>> So what is the way that Allah could have
931. 30:29a son?
932. 30:29>> He would have to have a consult.
933. 30:32>> Could he do that?
934. 30:32>> Female.
935. 30:33>> Could he do that?
936. 30:35>> Subhan Allah. He is way above these
937. 30:37level.
938. 30:37>> That's not answering my question. Could
939. 30:39he do that? Yes or no?
940. 30:40>> Of course not.
941. 30:41>> That's right. So what's the point? Okay.
942. 30:43So then look. So, no. Put you in a trap.
943. 30:46>> No, no, no. You put yourself He put
944. 30:48yourself in a trap. Allah put you in a
945. 30:49trap because you bring me a verse where
946. 30:52Allah can't even do it in the first
947. 30:54place. It says it's trying to refute
948. 30:56that Allah have a son. He's refuting the
949. 30:57pagans that says that he has sons and
950. 30:59daughters. And then he his response is,
951. 31:02"How can I have a son if I don't have a
952. 31:04mate?" If he can't even do that in the
953. 31:07first place, he can't have a son even if
954. 31:08there is a mate, then why is that a why
955. 31:10is that his reputation? because it
956. 31:13debunks the Trinity with a
957. 31:15>> No, it's not about the Trinity. It
958. 31:16>> does. He's not talking to Christians.
959. 31:19>> He's talking to He's talking to
960. 31:20Christians. He's talking to any
961. 31:22>> Show me Show me Christians in the
962. 31:23context.
963. 31:23>> He's talking to anybody who believes
964. 31:25that he has
965. 31:26>> That's Who is he talking to in the
966. 31:28context?
967. 31:29>> How can he? He's talking about you guys.
968. 31:30How can Son if he doesn't? I know. I
969. 31:33know. I know you're You wrote a book,
970. 31:34brother. So, you're smart enough to know
971. 31:35what I'm asking you.
972. 31:37>> Who is he addressing in the context?
973. 31:39>> To all of you guys. To the Christians.
974. 31:40>> He has children. Show me. Show me the
975. 31:42Christians in the context.
976. 31:43>> You have a
977. 31:44>> show me the Christians in the context
978. 31:45that he's talking to Christians.
979. 31:47>> You can't get past that question.
980. 31:48>> I bet I can't.
981. 31:52>> You I bet you never even read the pre
982. 31:53prior verses.
983. 31:54>> Oh, this verse is the one he he gave us
984. 31:56to give you this.
985. 31:58>> You never read the prior verses.
986. 31:59>> Arguments are the best, bro.
987. 32:01>> How do you not know the context?
988. 32:04>> How can he have a son when he doesn't
989. 32:06have a context?
990. 32:06>> Can you get to the context, please? How
991. 32:08do you not know this, man? You wrote a
992. 32:09book. doesn't help you. It doesn't help
993. 32:12you get
994. 32:12>> show me where the Christians are being
995. 32:14addressed in the context.
996. 32:15>> Yeah, his moose right now
997. 32:20[clears throat] logic.
998. 32:25He is the originator. How could he have
999. 32:28prior?
1000. 32:30>> Yeah. Yet they associate jin with Allah.
1001. 32:33>> Who associates jin with Allah?
1002. 32:36>> People.
1003. 32:36>> Who do Christians?
1004. 32:37>> People. Everybody does.
1005. 32:39>> Christians. You had a gin that you said
1006. 32:40has been working for you on your
1007. 32:42>> show me where the Christians associate
1008. 32:44gins with Allah. Show me in the where
1009. 32:45the Quran says that
1010. 32:47>> and yet he created them false treatment
1011. 32:49sons and daughters ignorant everybody.
1012. 32:51You
1013. 32:52>> where does it say everybody? You're
1014. 32:53trying to
1015. 32:53>> he's talking about a specific people.
1016. 32:55>> Who is he talking to? You don't even
1017. 32:57know.
1018. 32:57>> Is the argument too hot for you?
1019. 32:59>> Yeah, it's a little too hot.
1020. 33:01>> It's a little too hot. We
1021. 33:03>> I mean you've already fallen under the
1022. 33:05argument. I bet.
1023. 33:07>> Can you tell me who he's talking to?
1024. 33:08Everybody who claims God has a son.
1025. 33:10>> Where where does it say that?
1026. 33:10>> The Quran.
1027. 33:12>> No. Before before giving me this the
1028. 33:15Quran this and it flesh. Before you do
1029. 33:18all that, please before you do all that
1030. 33:20from this,
1031. 33:21>> can you show me contextually
1032. 33:24says anybody? Show me.
1033. 33:26>> Show me.
1034. 33:26>> He created them and they fals to be
1035. 33:29attribute to him.
1036. 33:30>> Who's the they?
1037. 33:31>> Everybody. Anybody could be.
1038. 33:33>> So whenever the Quran says they, it's
1039. 33:34just talking about all anybody, right?
1040. 33:36Our our people. So when the Quran says
1041. 33:38so against their saying we killed the
1042. 33:41Messiah son of Mary who's it talking
1043. 33:42about who takes
1044. 33:44>> everybody who says that [laughter]
1045. 33:47what everybody
1046. 33:48>> when it says that they killed their
1047. 33:49prophets who's it talking about
1048. 33:51>> everybody right
1049. 33:52>> the prophet peace be upon him I have
1050. 33:54been given jawani
1051. 33:56>> English
1052. 33:57>> the most concise speech with the wildest
1053. 34:00widest meanings
1054. 34:02>> this book
1055. 34:02>> so it doesn't mean
1056. 34:03>> within this book it destroys all claims
1057. 34:07So basically wait I got you. So
1058. 34:09basically when Muhammad says something
1059. 34:10it can mean anything.
1060. 34:12>> So you can't do you can't uh uh uh have
1061. 34:15a specific meaning. You can't it can't
1062. 34:17really relate to anything specific.
1063. 34:19Muhammad has such a wide range of his
1064. 34:22speech that whenever you look at what
1065. 34:23Muhammad says, you can never know what
1066. 34:24he really is saying. It can mean
1067. 34:26anything and everything at the same
1068. 34:27time. Huh? God.
1069. 34:29>> Can you escape pistol?
1070. 34:30>> I I can't I can't escape.
1071. 34:31>> There's no way to have a
1072. 34:32>> man. You very simple argument. No
1073. 34:34Christian can get out.
1074. 34:35>> You're right. Do you have enough or you
1075. 34:37want to
1076. 34:38>> Yeah. No, that's it. That's it. Okay.
1077. 34:40>> All right. We'll move on to the next
1078. 34:42person. Do you want to go um or