I bought palantir at $7. these 8 stocks are the biology version — Transcript
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- 0:00Hello everyone. Today we're going to
- 0:01look at eight stocks, eight names
- 0:02companies which I believe are going to
- 0:04change the world in the next 5 to 10
- 0:06years time. The broader thesis is that
- 0:08in the next few decades biology is going
- 0:09to deliver most of the returns in the
- 0:11stock market. Welcome back to the
- 0:12world's best investing podcast. I went
- 0:14long Palantir at $7 per share. The
- 0:16evidence of that you can find it in my
- 0:18original deep dive written back in 2022
- 0:21explaining why Palantir was the most
- 0:23important company in the West and then
- 0:24me actively defending the thesis all the
- 0:26way up with the various 50% plus
- 0:28declines and everyone trying to short
- 0:30the stock on the way up. Today as I
- 0:32said, we're going to look at eight
- 0:33tickers in depth. The very least this
- 0:35presentation is going to do for you is
- 0:36make you smarter. If you relate to the
- 0:38AI trade, this presentation is going to
- 0:40enable you to at least understand the
- 0:42next big huge trade early which is the
- 0:44intersection between AI and biology.
- 0:46Nothing I say today is financial advice,
- 0:48nor should it be interpreted as such.
- 0:50This is just for educational and
- 0:52entertainment purposes only. Let's get
- 0:54started with today's presentation.
- 1:00Right. So, life extension per token.
- 1:02Many of you guys have heard me talking
- 1:03about this. This is a new AI scaling law
- 1:05which I've coined myself. Essentially,
- 1:07the idea that every time an AI model
- 1:09runs that's trained on biological data,
- 1:12human lifespan is going to be extended.
- 1:15Longer lives, better lives as an
- 1:17emergent feature of this very simple
- 1:19data set which is your ability to read
- 1:21into someone's biology at present, write
- 1:23back into it, and then be able to tell
- 1:25what happens afterwards. What's the end
- 1:27state in someone's biology. This is the
- 1:29very simple key value pairs we'll cover
- 1:31now that will train superhuman AI
- 1:33doctors. In the future, it's actually
- 1:35happening now and this is going to give
- 1:37way to the most valuable subscription
- 1:39service ever in the history of humanity.
- 1:42And that is the bottom line of the
- 1:43thesis. Today we have eight tickers. I
- 1:45know many of you guys like me to cover
- 1:47the tickers early. So, we have Hims 10x
- 1:50AI, Nautilus Biotechnology, Butterfly
- 1:53Network which is the next deep dive.
- 1:54Today we're only going to cover it
- 1:55superficially. Recursion
- 1:57Pharmaceuticals, AbCellera, ImmunityBio,
- 1:59and MiNK Therapeutics, Hims, and Tempus
- 2:02AI at the distribution level. It's very
- 2:04important for the read and write
- 2:06function in biology. I'll explain the
- 2:08importance of that now. So, actually
- 2:09read patients so we can see what's
- 2:11happening with patients before and after
- 2:13a treatment. That is the essence for
- 2:15training an AI. And then there's
- 2:17actually deeper components of this value
- 2:19chain. We have Nautilus Biotechnology,
- 2:21which is very important, increasingly
- 2:23so, for the read function at the
- 2:25proteomic level. Butterfly Network seems
- 2:27to have extraordinary technology that
- 2:29can tell the state of specific organs at
- 2:32present, and this is actually quite
- 2:33unique in the market via ultrasound,
- 2:35essentially chips that run ultrasound in
- 2:38situ inside the chip. Then we have
- 2:39Recursion Pharmaceuticals, which is the
- 2:41drug manufacturing machine which builds
- 2:44itself. It's recursive in nature,
- 2:45apparently. AbCellera, which is a
- 2:48company that I've covered a lot.
- 2:49Congratulations to you guys that bought
- 2:51in early. I didn't. It's essentially a
- 2:54factory that just prints antibodies and
- 2:56can therefore target any receptor in the
- 2:58human body. By the way, if you don't
- 3:00know anything about biology, you can go
- 3:02and check out my past videos on that. In
- 3:04the course, I have a module in which I
- 3:05break down the first principles
- 3:07framework so that you guys get up to
- 3:09speed quickly without spending years
- 3:11studying biology like I did. And then we
- 3:13have ImmunityBio, which is basically
- 3:15something that jacks up your immune
- 3:16system by binding onto the interleukin
- 3:1815 receptor. I do believe that will be
- 3:20fundamental
- 3:22in the next 5 to 10 years, specifically
- 3:24so in the next 5 years. So, that's very
- 3:26important to take into account. And then
- 3:28we have MiNK Therapeutics, which is the
- 3:30only company in the world, at least
- 3:31publicly traded, that I know of, that's
- 3:34capitalizing on a third branch of the
- 3:36immune system, which is not the innate,
- 3:38not the adaptive branch, it's something
- 3:39in between that targets the bad guys via
- 3:42what is known as lipid. So, it doesn't
- 3:43use the peptide complex, therefore does
- 3:45not leverage the major
- 3:47histocompatibility complex, and
- 3:49therefore is extraordinary. You can go
- 3:51and check out
- 3:52my deep dive on that company.
- 3:54>> [snorts]
- 3:54>> Now, let's get started with the
- 3:56worldview that I was promising. Biology
- 3:57will, in my view, deliver most of the
- 3:59stock market returns of the next decade,
- 4:01primarily by extending human health
- 4:03span. This is going to be the most
- 4:05valuable, desirable subscription service
- 4:07on Earth because ultimately, as a human,
- 4:09if you don't care about sticking around
- 4:11and in a good state, what do you really
- 4:12care about? If you don't stick around,
- 4:14you can't possibly care about anything.
- 4:16Therefore, on a first principles basis,
- 4:17if this does come to life, as I believe
- 4:20it will do, and actually, as I will
- 4:21prove in today's presentation, is coming
- 4:23to life, this is going to be extremely
- 4:25valuable. Semiconductors have been have
- 4:27proven to be extremely valuable, and
- 4:29they're only getting started. As many of
- 4:31you know, I'm an early AMD shareholder
- 4:33since $4.2 per share. At the very least,
- 4:35you have billions of videos of me
- 4:37defending AMD last year when it was when
- 4:39it was trading at $75 per share, saying
- 4:42it's the next AI
- 4:44trillion-dollar AI giant, and so it has
- 4:46been. It's now trading just over 1
- 4:48trillion. All right, so
- 4:50we have an emerging data value chain
- 4:52that's already extending lifespan per
- 4:54token. This is something that the market
- 4:56is missing. The financials are starting
- 4:58to click, and several key assets were
- 5:00actually severely underpriced. And to
- 5:02me, that's certainly an arbitrage, which
- 5:04which I am exploiting. There are a
- 5:06series of newly started long positions.
- 5:08Newly means in the past year, or
- 5:10recently in the past few months, which I
- 5:12will disclose during the presentation.
- 5:14The building block of this new scaling
- 5:16law, which is more lifespan per token
- 5:18every time an AI model runs that's
- 5:20obviously trained on the adequate data,
- 5:23is a single key value pair, as is the
- 5:24case with the rest of AI. The key is
- 5:27someone's biological state before a
- 5:29treatment, then plus the treatment, and
- 5:31the value is the state after. So, if you
- 5:33have a snapshot of someone's biology
- 5:35before a treatment, then you add the
- 5:36exact treatment, and then you see what
- 5:38happens to someone's biology after.
- 5:40Enough pairs of that, and AI does become
- 5:43biologically predictive. Now,
- 5:45historically,
- 5:47every major advance in has come from a
- 5:49better read or a better write function
- 5:51in biology. So, as we as we understood
- 5:54biology better and we've gained an
- 5:56ability to then write back into biology,
- 5:58we've cured things. Now, both run on
- 6:00data and compute uh compute that's
- 6:02recursive in nature. So, you essentially
- 6:04have AI models that are starting to
- 6:06improve themselves. So, each better read
- 6:08actually trains a better write. And we
- 6:11are right now going through revolution
- 6:13in this space, which, you know, is
- 6:14increasingly acknowledged by the wider
- 6:17uh public, but it's still very niche,
- 6:19right? So, if you tell anyone about this
- 6:21that's not on, you know, in in our
- 6:23sphere of investing and technology,
- 6:25they're going to think you're insane,
- 6:26right? So, you have the key value pair
- 6:28behind predictive biology. As I was
- 6:29saying, it's very important we nail
- 6:31this. You have someone's biological
- 6:32state before captured by the read
- 6:34function, then you have the treatments,
- 6:36which is delivered by the write
- 6:38function. So, we have, you know,
- 6:39something in the write function that's
- 6:41booming right now is peptides, for
- 6:42example. You're just writing back into
- 6:44biology.
- 6:45And then you have the state after.
- 6:47Millions of these pairs teach the model
- 6:49the link between key and value. Then,
- 6:51you know, when you have millions of
- 6:53patients on board, for example, and this
- 6:55key value pair is increasingly training
- 6:57an AI model,
- 6:58when a new guy joins the platform, for
- 7:00that guy, the AI is going to be
- 7:01predictive. And that's what's going to
- 7:03change not just medicine. It's not only
- 7:06going to produce the most valuable
- 7:07subscription service on earth, in my
- 7:09opinion, it's also going to change the
- 7:11human condition forever.
- 7:14Now, here's where we get into a spotting
- 7:16the asymmetries, you know, the tickets
- 7:18that we were discussing, how good the
- 7:19prediction is. So, how much someone's
- 7:21health span is extended per token, per
- 7:24every time a model runs, depends on how
- 7:26deep the read goes, from how you feel
- 7:29through each organ down to the proteome,
- 7:31epigenome, and genome. By the way, if
- 7:33you've never heard of the proteome,
- 7:35epigenome, and genome, I have lots of
- 7:36videos of that. As I said, we have a
- 7:38module on the course with the first
- 7:40principles framework.
- 7:41Let me just illustrate what I mean by a
- 7:43deeper read. How the person feels, how
- 7:45they're sleeping, how much they work
- 7:47out, how their heart is performing. We
- 7:49have that in the wearables today. That
- 7:51is being democratized at scale with
- 7:54Whoop, which I've been a customer and
- 7:55now actually taking a break from it
- 7:57because it was a little bit painstaking.
- 7:59But, um you know, Aura stuff like that,
- 8:01this is happening across the board. You
- 8:02have the intelligent mattresses that
- 8:04people are using. That's the very
- 8:06high-level surface biomarkers. Then we
- 8:08have organ performance. This This seems
- 8:11to be some kind of innovation happening
- 8:13inside Butterfly, ticker BFLY. I'll be
- 8:16discussing that in depth in the upcoming
- 8:17deep dive. The proteome is very well
- 8:20done by Nautilus Biotechnology, frankly,
- 8:23in a way which no one else seems to be
- 8:25able to do so at the moment. The thing
- 8:27everyone is using in the industry is
- 8:29mass spectrometry, which we'll be
- 8:30covering now, but it doesn't work to
- 8:32truly capture nuance in the proteome.
- 8:34So, this ticker to me is fundamentally
- 8:37interesting and it's to me it seems
- 8:39incredibly undervalued. And then,
- 8:42at the epigenome, RNA, genome level, we
- 8:45have two companies which I think are
- 8:46very interesting, which is Tempus AI,
- 8:49ticker TEM, and then Recursion
- 8:51Pharmaceuticals, ticker RXRX. So, just
- 8:54understand that and I'm not saying these
- 8:56tickers will succeed 100%, but just
- 8:58understand that the deeper the read into
- 9:01biology goes, the better, more
- 9:03predictive, more efficient AI will be at
- 9:06extending human health spans across the
- 9:08board. Now, to test whether this chain
- 9:11is actually viable, it's real and it's
- 9:12not something I'm making up, you have to
- 9:15look at the distribution layer. So, the
- 9:17platforms in direct contact with the
- 9:18customer where read and write actually
- 9:21reach a body. Is this happening across
- 9:23the board or not? Yes, two companies,
- 9:25Hims and Tempus. You guys know I'm a
- 9:28long-time Hims bull. I'm a gigabull as
- 9:31I've been with companies like AMD and
- 9:33Palantir and I continue to be to date.
- 9:35These two companies,
- 9:37as I've covered in the past, perform the
- 9:39same function but are coming at this
- 9:40through opposite doors. Both are
- 9:42actually growing, as I will show now,
- 9:44for one simple reason. And that's that
- 9:46data improves outcomes. Whether you
- 9:48believe in the emerging data value chain
- 9:51that I'm going to cover or not, you
- 9:53can't deny the fact that actually the
- 9:55top line of these two companies are
- 9:56growing really fast.
- 9:58Whether AI is truly driving patient
- 10:00outcomes or not, we can debate back and
- 10:02forth. But the fact that these are two
- 10:04data-driven
- 10:06and the top line is growing
- 10:08exponentially for now, just because the
- 10:11intel that the data is generating
- 10:13enables these companies to deliver more
- 10:15value per dollar spent is actually
- 10:17increasingly harder to debate. Right?
- 10:19So, this is a hypothesis. There is no
- 10:21guarantee of success in investing. But
- 10:23you have Hims doing this revenue in the
- 10:25last 12 months, 11.3x revenue growth
- 10:28with respect to the start of this
- 10:29timeline. Tempus 1.4 billion in the same
- 10:33period, 5x revenue growth. You will see
- 10:36there is a tentative arbitrage in the
- 10:37market cap. So, Hims 6.7 billion dollars
- 10:41market cap, Tempus AI 14.9 billion
- 10:44dollars. Although there is a disparity
- 10:46in the revenue. This is because the
- 10:48market at present interprets Hims's
- 10:51revenue as being lower quality of that
- 10:53of Tempus. However, as we know in
- 10:55technology, things that come to be very
- 10:57meaningful eventually actually look like
- 10:59toys at the beginning. Hims has been
- 11:01labeled as an erectile dysfunction
- 11:03company, GLP-1 company, whatever pill
- 11:06company. It's actually building an
- 11:07infrastructure that's D2C. It's just a
- 11:10different way of nailing this key value
- 11:13pair. Right? So, Hims Labs picks up data
- 11:15on people before treatment,
- 11:18biomarkers and increasing volume of
- 11:19them, then the treatment that they
- 11:21receive, and they do so via this
- 11:23closed-loop infrastructure, and then the
- 11:24state after. So, on a first principles
- 11:26basis,
- 11:27it's very much training in AI, just like
- 11:29Tempus is.
- 11:31Now,
- 11:32there's some interesting qualitative
- 11:34remarks from the co-founder and CEO of
- 11:36Tempus AI in the Q2 2026 earnings
- 11:40report. He said, "They, the customers,
- 11:42don't just want our data. They want
- 11:44access to Lens. They're uploading data.
- 11:47They're building models that remain in
- 11:48Lens, and the business just feels super
- 11:50healthy, super sticky." Algorithm attach
- 11:53rate 45%. That's up from 40% in the
- 11:56latest report. Data licensing revenue
- 11:59growth 36% year over year.
- 12:02Now, the company is actually for the
- 12:03first time ever
- 12:05positive GAAP net income. This is
- 12:07because Tempus is becoming a machine
- 12:10that not only delivers value just by
- 12:13selling raw data, it's actually a place
- 12:15where customers are beginning to
- 12:17generatively build their own AI models
- 12:20on top of Tempus's data. So, Tempus is
- 12:23entering this new chapter in which at a
- 12:25marginal cost, it prints AI models that
- 12:28then drive additional incremental value
- 12:30at a marginal cost to their customers
- 12:33inside their infrastructure. So, rather
- 12:35than just a data platform, it's becoming
- 12:38a place where new AI models become
- 12:41bootstrapped by customers via prompts,
- 12:44which is extraordinary.
- 12:46Now, that we've covered the top line and
- 12:48we we can sort of broadly agree that
- 12:50something is happening for these two
- 12:51companies to grow so fast, it's
- 12:53interesting to go deeper into the value
- 12:55chain. Because here is where I believe
- 12:58also the case at the top of the value
- 13:00chain is where we will uncover many
- 13:02multi-baggers in the decades to come.
- 13:05This thesis, life extension, health span
- 13:07extension per token, I believe is
- 13:09extremely fertile ground for
- 13:12extraordinary investments as has been
- 13:14the sort of
- 13:16vanilla standalone AI value chain with
- 13:18companies like AMD and Palantir over the
- 13:20past few decades.
- 13:22Recursion is a machine that essentially
- 13:24explains why a treatment should work.
- 13:26And Tempus owns the outcomes, right? So,
- 13:29they can read a patient's state before
- 13:31and after the treatment. So, they own a
- 13:34higher level of the same key value per
- 13:37abstraction. Now, they recently closed
- 13:39the deal
- 13:40in which Recursion pays Tempus $42
- 13:42million over 3 years
- 13:45for data regarding their patients. And
- 13:47Tempus pays $12 million to Recursion
- 13:50Pharmaceuticals over 2 years for data
- 13:53for their TX FM RNA model. So, for a
- 13:56deep comprehension of what's happening
- 13:58inside cells at the RNA level.
- 14:01In case you haven't seen my Recursion
- 14:03Pharmaceuticals deep dive, they own
- 14:05roughly 50 petabytes of lab data. They
- 14:07have a factory which processes cells and
- 14:10generates deep low-level biological data
- 14:13of what's happening inside cells. This
- 14:15is hard to do because you have to build
- 14:17out all the physical infrastructure to
- 14:20get the data of what's happening inside
- 14:22cells, and then you have to build the AI
- 14:23models on top of them. Of course, as AI
- 14:26scaling laws continue accelerating, the
- 14:29intelligence built per petabyte of data
- 14:32generated in Recursion's factories
- 14:34continues going up. So, every day that
- 14:36goes by, Recursion, in my view, is
- 14:38actually exponentially harder to
- 14:39replicate. Bottom line is
- 14:42Recursion has a deeper level
- 14:44understanding, lower level
- 14:45understanding, of what's happening
- 14:47inside cells and how the chemistry and
- 14:50drugs interacts with that biology.
- 14:52And this deal just shows you a
- 14:54delineation
- 14:55in the data value chain. These two
- 14:57companies are paying for each other's
- 14:58data because they can't replicate that
- 15:00data. So, this is a very strong signal
- 15:03from Q2 2026. Now, what really caught my
- 15:07eye in Q2 2026 for Recursion
- 15:09Pharmaceuticals is that the model seems
- 15:12to be discovering novel biology. Not a
- 15:15hypothesis that someone prompted the
- 15:17model and to gain clarity on. The model
- 15:20came up with something that no
- 15:22specialist actually even thought of
- 15:24apparently.
- 15:26This is the result of a novel atlas that
- 15:29Recursion has built by processing over 1
- 15:31trillion lab-grown neurons and
- 15:34microglial cells. Neurons, as you may
- 15:36know, are essentially the cells that
- 15:38power the central nervous system
- 15:40including the brain, and microglia are
- 15:43the resident immune cells inside the
- 15:45brain. This is mapped together with
- 15:4717,000 genes that Recursion has
- 15:50essentially looked at. So, this atlas
- 15:52has produced, apparently, a novel
- 15:54neurological target, so something in the
- 15:56brain that can be interacted with to
- 15:59produce to improve patient outcomes that
- 16:01Genentech is now taking to the clinic.
- 16:04What's interesting is that this atlas is
- 16:06obviously reusable. This was an emergent
- 16:08property of the atlas, and this is sort
- 16:11of increasingly generalized intelligence
- 16:13such that it would seem that Recursion's
- 16:15model, there is a combination of them,
- 16:17but I think we can speak of these models
- 16:19as one emergent model, came up with
- 16:21something which really no one thought
- 16:23about, according to management's
- 16:25qualitative remarks in the Q2 2026
- 16:28earnings call. Now, I'm going by what
- 16:31they say because this seems like an
- 16:32extremely capable management team, and I
- 16:34think I increasingly trust them. What's
- 16:36interesting here is the relationship.
- 16:39So, we talked about how
- 16:41the growing top line of the top part of
- 16:44the value chain, which is the
- 16:46distribution layer, seems to be powering
- 16:48demand for lower levels of the emerging
- 16:51data value chain. What's interesting,
- 16:53however, is the recursive nature of the
- 16:56relationships there. Meaning, if this
- 16:58thing is coming up with novel biology,
- 17:00does that supercharge the top line
- 17:02itself? Does that open a field? Does
- 17:05that open a field of possibilities such
- 17:07that Tempus and Hims can radically
- 17:10improve patient outcomes in a way which
- 17:12was previously considered impossible.
- 17:14This is absolutely the case, and this is
- 17:16actually happening now. Again, we just
- 17:18go back to the idea of more treated
- 17:20patients, more key value pairs,
- 17:22and then that sort of feeds back into a
- 17:24richer Atlas. So, this emerging value
- 17:27chain is extremely real. And as I will
- 17:29explain now, across these series of
- 17:31places, it's actually being tremendously
- 17:33undervalued.
- 17:35>> [snorts]
- 17:35>> Recursion by itself is an extremely
- 17:38interesting company to me because the
- 17:40engine seems to run at a level of
- 17:42efficiency
- 17:43which the broader pharmaceutical
- 17:45industry cannot match. And as I said, it
- 17:47seems to be recursive, meaning that the
- 17:49infrastructure improves itself. They do
- 17:51have a closed loop where they have a
- 17:53physical factory that generates the
- 17:54data, then the models, and then the
- 17:57models sort of improve the factory
- 17:59itself, and that's recursive in nature.
- 18:01But, if you look, for example, at REC
- 18:034881,
- 18:04which is essentially a molecule, like I
- 18:06covered this in depth in the deep dive,
- 18:08but it's a molecule
- 18:10that reduces polyps in the
- 18:12gastrointestinal tract. It did so by
- 18:15roughly 43% actually, concretely 43% in
- 18:20phase two.
- 18:21And what's interesting is that this is
- 18:23done at a level of efficiency which the
- 18:25market, the broader market, cannot
- 18:27match. Right? So, the industry norm is
- 18:30roughly thousands of compounds
- 18:32synthesized in order to produce one drug
- 18:34that does something useful in the
- 18:35clinic.
- 18:36So, we can see, however, that REC 7735
- 18:40only required 242 compounds. And just
- 18:43the the recursion average is 330. So,
- 18:47it's a lot lower than the thousands
- 18:48required by the industry
- 18:51across the board. What's
- 18:53incredibly interesting, even more, is
- 18:55that Recursion Pharmaceuticals is doing
- 18:57this while the guidance in terms of
- 19:00OPEX, operating expenditures for 2026,
- 19:03is 40% below the OPEX in 2024. So, the
- 19:07machine is not only outperforming the
- 19:09broader industry, it's not only
- 19:11allegedly discovering novel biology,
- 19:13it's actually doing so in an
- 19:14increasingly agile,
- 19:17lean manner. To me, this is
- 19:18extraordinary and it is very much worth
- 19:20keeping an eye on. However,
- 19:23this is part of this map, obviously, is
- 19:25the whole multi-omics thing. So, here we
- 19:27we we said they processed 17,000 genes.
- 19:30That's at the genomic level. They did
- 19:32say in the Q2 2026 earnings call, they
- 19:35do that at the other levels of
- 19:37abstraction that we covered, like
- 19:38epigenetics, proteomics, and so forth.
- 19:40However,
- 19:43Recursion Pharmaceuticals is doing this
- 19:44with what is known as mass spectrometry.
- 19:46And this, until Nautilus Biotechnology
- 19:49came along and actually recently did
- 19:51something great with their new
- 19:52technology, this has been, until
- 19:54recently, state of the art.
- 19:56The problem with mass spectrometry is it
- 19:57can't tell the difference between
- 19:59proteoforms. So, a protein is
- 20:01essentially just a combination of amino
- 20:03acids per electromagnetic attractions.
- 20:06The amino acids take on a specific
- 20:08shape. However,
- 20:10mass spectrometry cannot tell between,
- 20:12for example, an OH group,
- 20:13oxygen-hydrogen group attached to a
- 20:16specific location of a protein or
- 20:18another location. And that actually
- 20:20changes the function of that protein
- 20:22variation a lot. Mass spectrometry
- 20:24cannot do that. Nautilus, with iterative
- 20:27mapping, and I've actually made a quite
- 20:29a few videos about this company already,
- 20:31can do it.
- 20:32So, here what we have is, again, an
- 20:35emerging data value chain and we can go
- 20:36deeper. Nautilus can read intact
- 20:39proteins one molecule at a time. It
- 20:41understands perfectly the difference
- 20:43between one proteoform and another. And
- 20:45therefore, it gains a level of nuance
- 20:48that traditionally has been impossible.
- 20:50It's unblocking, unlocking a data layer
- 20:53which is foundational to everything in
- 20:56this emerging value chain that we are
- 20:57talking about. If you can get an
- 20:59exhaustive read at the proteomic level,
- 21:02there's nothing that you can't do in the
- 21:03body to mediate any physiological
- 21:05process.
- 21:07Here's what's very interesting about the
- 21:08company.
- 21:09The first assay, the first vertical
- 21:12read, the first read of a small part of
- 21:14the proteome took them 5 years. This was
- 21:16the tau protein. Now, the last one,
- 21:19oncology, which they're moving into now,
- 21:21took 1 year. And now they're looking
- 21:23into months and projecting 20 assays by
- 21:26mid-2028.
- 21:28This data layer, I think, is going to be
- 21:31among the most valuable parts
- 21:33of the value chain. Because if you can't
- 21:35read the proteome, you can't really do
- 21:36all that much, and AI actually doesn't
- 21:39fully extend. I mean, you can't play the
- 21:40LEGO puzzle. And therefore, I don't
- 21:42believe you can unblock the whole health
- 21:44span thing. Anyways,
- 21:46there's there's essentially a pathway
- 21:48called AK-1,
- 21:50and it's the same pathway that Recursion
- 21:527735
- 21:54is um working with. 7735,
- 21:57remember, is essentially this one that
- 21:59just received the FDA green light. And
- 22:02it was designed in 10 months and with
- 22:04just 242 compounds. However, Recursion
- 22:07doesn't really have an in-depth read of
- 22:10of what's happening in the proteome
- 22:11there. So, how much better could the
- 22:13molecule get if they do gain a read on
- 22:15that on the AK-1 pathway, which, by the
- 22:17way, is the one that I mentioned
- 22:19previously on oncology? The answer is
- 22:21Recursion's machine could get a lot
- 22:23smarter, a lot more predictive, and
- 22:25actually just turn this condition, AK-1,
- 22:29it's essentially
- 22:30a pathway involved in a good number of
- 22:33tumors. It could just turn this thing
- 22:34into background noise. If you as a human
- 22:37have these biomarkers being generated in
- 22:38the background and AI models working for
- 22:40you, and then the right function is
- 22:42seamless and delivered via the
- 22:44distribution layer, be it Hims, be it
- 22:46Tempus, be it Oura, be it be it Whoop,
- 22:49essentially this becomes a nothing. You
- 22:51know, it just disappears into the
- 22:52background, and AI truly becomes
- 22:54predictive for you, and thus extends
- 22:56your health span. So, therefore,
- 22:58Recursion is doing very well. It's
- 23:00already outperforming the broader
- 23:02market, as we're talking about in this
- 23:03slide, but it's doing so with a very
- 23:05thin read of proteomics. So, my bet is,
- 23:08you know, these guys are exchanging
- 23:10money now for data. My prediction is
- 23:13Nautilus essentially and Recursion form
- 23:16another link in the chain very soon.
- 23:17Now,
- 23:18we can trace the emerging data value
- 23:21chain along separate things that these
- 23:23companies are doing,
- 23:24which and you know, maybe that data
- 23:26value chain hasn't been formalized yet,
- 23:28but if you look at the biological
- 23:29advances, then it can be. There's a
- 23:31thing called PI3K, which essentially
- 23:35changes stuff in the cell membrane, and
- 23:37that change
- 23:39when it goes, you know, when the when
- 23:40the switch goes uncontrolled, it
- 23:42basically makes the cell proliferate and
- 23:45divide and grow uncontrollably. It does
- 23:47so via the AKT pathway that we talked
- 23:50about. It switches on the mechanism of
- 23:52grow and survive, and this absolutely
- 23:55seems to make cells grow uncontrollably.
- 23:57So, we have Nautilus
- 23:59working on the AKT1 proteoform assay,
- 24:03getting an exhaustive read of what's
- 24:04happening there with the proteome. Then
- 24:06we have Recursion Pharmaceuticals with
- 24:09REC 7735,
- 24:12which seems to switch off
- 24:14the jam switch. So, the thing that goes
- 24:15wrong that makes PI3K trigger this
- 24:19uncontrolled growth in the cell. And by
- 24:21the way, it does so with 100x plus
- 24:24more selective efficiency than does
- 24:26anything in the market, which is the
- 24:27reason the molecule is working so well,
- 24:30and it seems to be far less toxic than
- 24:32alternatives in the market. This is all
- 24:34covered in depth. Then,
- 24:36we have
- 24:37Tempus sequencing the H1047R
- 24:41tumors, which seem to be an ultimate
- 24:43expression of this pathway being
- 24:45uncontrolled. And you know, they they do
- 24:47acknowledge that it does emerge from the
- 24:50PIK3CA pathway, which I believe is more
- 24:53specific to solid tumors, but it's
- 24:55essentially a specific version of this
- 24:58pathway that I'm explaining here. Bottom
- 24:59line is
- 25:00these companies are doing things along
- 25:02the same pathway and they're just not
- 25:04connected yet. They're naturally going
- 25:06to be connected because they have modes
- 25:07that to me are clearly defined. Nautilus
- 25:10is very hard to replicate at this stage
- 25:12even though this is pre-commercial and
- 25:14obviously the financial risk in these
- 25:15companies I think is meaningful. Less so
- 25:18as you move up to the distribution layer
- 25:20which is where I think we're seeing
- 25:21meaningful traction at the moment. But
- 25:23this is clearly just an emerging data
- 25:25value chain and it'll goes back to the
- 25:28key value pair. For now
- 25:30the company that I'm most interested in
- 25:31out of these and it doesn't exclude me
- 25:33going long any of these companies that
- 25:35I'm mentioning is Nautilus.
- 25:37The iterative mapping technology that
- 25:39they use that I cover in depth in a deep
- 25:40dive no one's close to.
- 25:43Recursion efficiency is unmatched and
- 25:45then Tempus has a strong hold on US
- 25:47hospitals meaning
- 25:48I have clear visibility into who is
- 25:50going to be using
- 25:52the iterative mapping technology that
- 25:53Nautilus is bringing to the world. And
- 25:56they are now starting to commercialize
- 25:59the platform. I covered this in the Q2
- 26:002026 earnings reports digest. I believe
- 26:04I didn't make a video. Essentially
- 26:05what's happening with Nautilus
- 26:06biotechnology is they've pivoted away
- 26:09from releasing into the market as
- 26:11generic platform that allows you to read
- 26:14any parts of the proteome you want and
- 26:16they're now focusing on verticals in
- 26:17which they have seen they allegedly
- 26:20claim to have seen real demand from the
- 26:21marketplace and the science is at a
- 26:23place where it could actually unlock
- 26:25meaningful
- 26:27resolution at the proteomic level. So
- 26:29this thing is working and my view is
- 26:32that every condition at some point runs
- 26:34through proteins. I believe that on a
- 26:35first principles basis
- 26:37this is a reality. Of course proteins
- 26:40emerge from the epigenome which tell
- 26:42cells what parts of the genome to read.
- 26:44So you could actually very much change
- 26:46the proteome just by getting deep into
- 26:48the genomic layer. But certainly the
- 26:50proteomic layer is how you read where
- 26:53this function is manifesting and
- 26:55perpetuating. And so, this is incredibly
- 26:57important. I believe that every
- 26:59condition runs through proteins. And so,
- 27:01you have Nautilus Biotechnology working
- 27:03on these various conditions that emerge
- 27:06from dysfunction in these proteins. So,
- 27:08you have tau, alpha-synuclein,
- 27:11AKT1, P53, and EGFR, which are the ones
- 27:14in the oncology
- 27:16um data value chain, which are very
- 27:17important. Insulin for diabetes, cardiac
- 27:20proteins for heart disease, cytokines
- 27:22for for inflammation. This is where we
- 27:25have the thinnest read at the moment. I
- 27:27don't believe that reading into the
- 27:29genome is a problem. I think RNA we're
- 27:30doing pretty well. Protein amounts with
- 27:33mass spectrometry is actually quite well
- 27:35solved. What we don't have is proteoform
- 27:37resolution. So, we have Nautilus, which
- 27:40at the time of me recording this video,
- 27:42I'm actually I started doing this before
- 27:44market open. Yesterday, it was trading
- 27:47at $170 million. That's the market cap.
- 27:50They have a thin balance sheet, but I I
- 27:52have seen management
- 27:54exhibiting a clear ability to push the
- 27:56science forward. Commer- um They They've
- 27:58started to commercialize. Um the first
- 28:01revenue actually came in in Q2 from a
- 28:03foundation that they're working in. I
- 28:05believe it's the tau proteoforms that
- 28:07they're leveraging.
- 28:08And they're running lean, too.
- 28:10So, OPEX is down year over year. There
- 28:12is meaningful financial risk here. So,
- 28:14this company is burning $14 million a
- 28:16quarter and actually expects to raise
- 28:18capital before mid-2027.
- 28:21So, there is clear dilution risk. This
- 28:24is very early stage, but to me, this is
- 28:27a very appealing company. Right? So, if
- 28:30management continues executing in a
- 28:32disciplined manner and just continues
- 28:34doing what they've been doing, this
- 28:35valuation for a key components of the
- 28:38value chain to me seems ridiculous.
- 28:40If this works, what are we looking at
- 28:42here? A company valued at least in the
- 28:44tens of billions of dollars, because
- 28:45everyone is going to be pulling from
- 28:47this data layer that no one else really
- 28:49seems to be able to unlock for now.
- 28:51>> [snorts]
- 28:52>> However, you know, I'm long Nautilus,
- 28:54but my allocation there is micro. I do
- 28:56continue to plan to build on it, but my
- 28:59allocation is Hims I have a giga
- 29:01position, Immunity Bio I have a smaller
- 29:03one.
- 29:04It's reasonably sized, but I would say
- 29:06very much pursuing a level of asymmetry
- 29:08in which, you know, the whole biology
- 29:10thing could go up 100,000, 200,000 X,
- 29:13whatever over the next 5 to 10 decades,
- 29:15but it's something that I'd be prepared
- 29:17to have it go to zero. So, it's an
- 29:19additional layer of asymmetry in my
- 29:21portfolio. As I said, there are
- 29:23companies that are also building
- 29:24appealing components of this emerging
- 29:26value chain. We have AbCellera, which
- 29:29has essentially built the discovery
- 29:31platform once and can really just bind
- 29:34onto any target onto the body. I covered
- 29:36that in the video, I believe it was last
- 29:38week. Immunity Bio, I'm long this
- 29:39company as I said, has the ability to
- 29:42reboot the immune system and program it
- 29:44in any specific direction. And then Mik
- 29:46Therapeutics, which I'm not long, but
- 29:48I'm quite fond of that third branch of
- 29:50the immune system, which has also been
- 29:52widely abandoned
- 29:54by the rest of the industry.
- 29:56So, this is going to be a long journey.
- 29:58I'm going to continue studying
- 29:59companies, I'm going to continue
- 30:00building positions, and I'll let you
- 30:02guys know.
- 30:03But the bottom line is that every ticker
- 30:04adds key value pairs or makes them
- 30:07sharper. We are gaining a read on
- 30:09biology, which is going to be probably
- 30:11at the atom level resolution,
- 30:13and we're just going to have something
- 30:15which is going to be far more valuable
- 30:17than anything we've seen in the world
- 30:18today. So, you have companies like
- 30:20Amazon and and Netflix and stuff like
- 30:22that being pretty valuable just by
- 30:24letting people buy whatever or letting
- 30:26people watch whatever. This is the
- 30:28equivalent, but on the biology side of
- 30:30things. The risk actually goes up as you
- 30:33go down the value chain. So, in my
- 30:35opinion, the distribution layer makes a
- 30:37lot more sense. If you look at the unit
- 30:39economics of Hims or Tempus AI, they are
- 30:41far better. Hims is actually has been
- 30:43producing producing cash from operations
- 30:45for a long time. Even free cash flow per
- 30:48share went up exponentially before they
- 30:50entered this recent period of
- 30:52investment. So, the risk goes up as you
- 30:55look at smaller components of the value
- 30:57chain, but also does the upside. So,
- 30:59just to recap today's video.
- 31:03This superhuman AI that we're building
- 31:05that's going to extend health spans is a
- 31:06function of reading into someone's
- 31:08biology, understanding the treatments at
- 31:10the atom level increasingly and then
- 31:12reading the state after. We have all
- 31:15these tickers that we covered. Butterfly
- 31:16for organs, Nautilus for proteoforms,
- 31:19Tempus for tumor DNA and RNA, Hims is at
- 31:23the distribution level,
- 31:24but also very much getting a read into
- 31:26an increasing level volume of biomarkers
- 31:29via Hims Labs, for example. Grail's
- 31:31Galleri cancer test, which uh recently
- 31:34received some interesting encouraging
- 31:36data,
- 31:37and uh the stock went up a lot. Then we
- 31:40have the treatments, you know, we have
- 31:41Recursion Pharmaceuticals discovering
- 31:43novel biology and understanding how to
- 31:46tune drugs to address that biology. XmAb
- 31:49antibodies and T-cell engagers uh as
- 31:51verified during the Q2 2026 earnings
- 31:54report.
- 31:55Immunity Bio for the IL-15 uh super
- 31:59agonist to bind onto that receptor and
- 32:01reboot natural killer T-cells.
- 32:04And then we have MiNK Therapeutics for
- 32:06off-the-shelf invariant natural killer
- 32:08T-cells, which again I did cover in
- 32:11depth and the science is fascinating.
- 32:13For the state after again, it's very
- 32:14much the same. We have Butterfly,
- 32:15Nautilus, Tempus AI and Hims.
- 32:18Every every one of these tickers adds
- 32:20pairs or makes them sharper. So, the
- 32:22resolution is going up. But again,
- 32:25the lower you go into the value chain,
- 32:28I think risk goes up. Eventually,
- 32:31if I had to bet, the most extreme
- 32:33rewards will come from the lowest level
- 32:35participants in the value chain that
- 32:38also produce unit economics that no one
- 32:40else can replicate. A candidate to that
- 32:42tentatively in my opinion is Recursion
- 32:44Pharmaceuticals. Very much and this is
- 32:47also the case with Nautilus, although as
- 32:48I said, risk goes up. But everything is
- 32:52going to emerge from the proteomic
- 32:53layer. So if Nautilus is the single
- 32:55dominant player in that, the rewards can
- 32:58be extreme, although again, it can go to
- 33:00zero. So I am certainly allocating
- 33:03accordingly. But if you look at
- 33:04Recursion and its ability to uncover
- 33:07novel biology, that's extremely
- 33:08interesting as well. So I wouldn't
- 33:10discard a company because it's lower
- 33:12down in the value chain, but certainly I
- 33:14would
- 33:15bear in mind that the risk does go up.
- 33:18So
- 33:19that's it for today's video, quite a
- 33:21dense one. Uh lots of information to put
- 33:23together. You have the written form
- 33:24available in the blog. You can see the
- 33:27link there on the screen. My positions
- 33:29are Hims, ImmunityBio, and Nautilus
- 33:31Biotechnology to date. And as I said,
- 33:34I'm long these companies in essentially
- 33:37logarithmically declining allocation.
- 33:39I'm very comfortable making a massive
- 33:41bet on Hims. I've been building that for
- 33:43a long time. And then I'm comfortable
- 33:45making bets on ImmunityBio and Nautilus,
- 33:48but in decreasing levels of allocation
- 33:50to the point that Nautilus is
- 33:52essentially a micro allocation in my
- 33:54portfolio that nonetheless, I do plan to
- 33:57make bigger.
- 34:06All right, guys, giga video today, lots
- 34:08of information. I hope that at the very
- 34:10least this video has transformed your
- 34:12worldview and opened your eyes to an
- 34:14emerging value chain which I as I said,
- 34:16I think it's going to give birth to the
- 34:18most valuable subscription service on
- 34:20earth. A big candidate to that by the
- 34:22way in my opinion is Hims. So thank you
- 34:24very much for joining me today. As
- 34:25always, if you enjoyed the deep dive,
- 34:27could you please like and subscribe and
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- 34:35So, thank you very much in advance. Take
- 34:37care, and until next time.
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