Howard Wilkinson, Danske Bank Whistleblower, at the 31st Annual ACFE Global Fraud Conference — Transcript
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- 0:00And really, that's where the story
- 0:01should have ended. You should never
- 0:03really have heard of me.
- 0:04Something bad had happened in the
- 0:05branch, and we all know bad things
- 0:08happen. A whistleblower had reported it,
- 0:10internal audit had investigated it,
- 0:13reported it to top management, and top
- 0:15management had taken the necessary
- 0:16action, made the necessary reports, done
- 0:19what needed to be done.
- 0:21You'd never heard of me.
- 0:24It didn't happen like that. The problem
- 0:26was that top management failed to step
- 0:28up to the plate. Even though by now two
- 0:30executive board members were involved.
- 0:33By April 2014, I'd had enough, so I
- 0:35resigned, and I wrote to the four people
- 0:37who got my original whistleblowing
- 0:39report,
- 0:40noting that there'd been a lack of
- 0:42action, and I warned that I might report
- 0:44the bank to the authorities.
- 0:46I guess they thought I was bluffing.
- 0:48Maybe not. Anyway, when I left, I was
- 0:51presented with an agreement which had a
- 0:52very strict non-disclosure clause, an
- 0:55NDA.
- 0:56Perhaps not not one that necessarily had
- 0:58any legal force, but it was very strict
- 1:00anyway. We parted ways, and I never
- 1:03heard from them again.
- 1:04Until 2017,
- 1:07when newspapers started to write about
- 1:09various money laundering stories and
- 1:11about Danske Estonia. First of all, we
- 1:13had the global laundromat.
- 1:16Then in September 2017, we had the
- 1:18Azerbaijani laundromat. This was
- 1:21specifically about four clients of
- 1:23Danske Estonia who helped route a couple
- 1:25of billion dollars out of Azerbaijan. In
- 1:28fact, one of these four clients was one
- 1:30that I had made a whistleblowing report
- 1:32about back in 2014. That was then 3
- 1:34years 3 years earlier.
- 1:36Under pressure from the media in
- 1:38Denmark, the bank commissioned a firm of
- 1:40Danish lawyers to start an
- 1:42investigation.
- 1:44In November 2017, the bank slipped out
- 1:47that there'd been a warning from a
- 1:48whistleblower,
- 1:49and that really started things rolling.
- 1:52In early 2018, journalists had tracked
- 1:54me down
- 1:56and started to ask questions. Although
- 1:58these journalists did actually respect
- 2:00my confidentiality and they didn't print
- 2:02my name.
- 2:04In September 2018, the Danish lawyers
- 2:07reported and we got this crazy number.
- 2:09We got this number of 230 billion
- 2:12dollars of cash moving through Danske
- 2:15Estonia, the majority of which they said
- 2:17was suspicious.
- 2:19And the report described in some detail
- 2:21the warnings I'd given back in 2014 and
- 2:23how they'd been ignored.
- 2:26Later that month, unknown to me, an
- 2:28Estonian magazine chose to to actually
- 2:31publicly name me and start writing about
- 2:33me. And they quoted four unnamed bank
- 2:36sources.
- 2:37And that really started a circus. Um
- 2:40ultimately, I testified before a Danish
- 2:43parliamentary committee and also a
- 2:45committee of the European Parliament.
- 2:47That was both in November 2018.
- 2:50By then, authorities were reported to be
- 2:53active. The bank said to them that it
- 2:55was under investigation by the DOJ and
- 2:57SEC in the US
- 2:59and by Danish, Estonian, and French
- 3:01prosecutors.
- 3:03The Estonian authorities arrested 12
- 3:05former managers and employees of the
- 3:07Estonian branch and the Danish
- 3:09prosecutor preliminarily charged the
- 3:12bank and also primarily charged
- 3:15the former CEO, the former CFO, the
- 3:17former chief risk officer,
- 3:19the former head of business banking, so
- 3:21those were four executive board members.
- 3:23On top of that, the former general
- 3:25counsel and a number of other top
- 3:27executives, some of whom have managed to
- 3:29keep their names secret so far.
- 3:32Um
- 3:33we've also seen in the last year
- 3:34shareholder lawsuits being filed in the
- 3:36US and Denmark.
- 3:38And the case has put a lot of focus on
- 3:40the roles both of US correspondent banks
- 3:43and particularly on the roles of
- 3:45regulators.
- 3:47Since my testimony in Brussels,
- 3:49a whistleblower A has come into force in
- 3:51the European Union. And this will for
- 3:53the first time give whistleblowers in
- 3:55the EU a uniform minimum level of
- 3:57protection. It will also outlaw the sort
- 3:59of NDA that I was presented with.
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