How To Synchronize Logic Playback With Dorico Via MTC (& Why Other Playback Methods Are Really Bad) — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hey everybody, Brian here. In today's
2. 0:01video, I'm going to show you how to
3. 0:03synchronize Logic with the Steinberg
4. 0:05Doro notation software. So that from
5. 0:08anywhere in Doro from its timeline, if
6. 0:10you hit play, you're going to have time
7. 0:12synchronized playback of the entire
8. 0:14project in Logic at the corresponding
9. 0:17time. So you end up with this kind of
10. 0:19action. And take note of what Doro is
11. 0:22displaying here and its bar and beach
12. 0:24display along with Logic.
13. 0:28Obviously,
14. 0:43doing this kind of synchronization
15. 0:45requires you have the MIDI in the
16. 0:47notation editor, and that's a topic on
17. 0:48its own. I'm not going to go into that,
18. 0:50but I'm just going to real quickly show
19. 0:51you the general approach that I take,
20. 0:53which is for most of the MIDI tracks I
21. 0:55have, a lot of them have humanized feel.
22. 0:58Some of them are recorded on a MIDI
23. 0:59keyboard. And so exporting that kind of
24. 1:02MIDI directly into a notation editor is
25. 1:05going to result in a nightmarish kind of
26. 1:06notation. So what I tend to do is I
27. 1:09create these duplicated tracks, the ones
28. 1:13that have four notation in the title,
29. 1:15and those ones just have cleaned up
30. 1:17versions of the MIDI. They're not tracks
31. 1:19that I want to have played back. They're
32. 1:20just tracks that are going to be used to
33. 1:22export MIDI so that it'll look fine in
34. 1:24the editor without all sorts of crazy
35. 1:2664th note rest and all that kind of
36. 1:28nonsense. So, I'll make a separate video
37. 1:31on exactly how I go about that if people
38. 1:33are interested. But anyway, here's the
39. 1:35project in Logic. This mounts to music
40. 1:37that I wrote and guitar that I recorded
41. 1:39to accompany a filming video from last
42. 1:42year. We went to the New Hampshire and
43. 1:44Maine Sea Coast which was a nice break
44. 1:46from being in Moscow, the one in Russia,
45. 1:48not the one in Idaho. So this has a
46. 1:51combination of synth lead, synth pads,
47. 1:53some plucky kind of instruments, some
48. 1:55rhythmic kind of instruments, bases,
49. 1:57drums, and the notation looks like this.
50. 2:02That's the project in Doro. And before I
51. 2:05get into how to go about doing the kind
52. 2:07of synchronization I showed you at the
53. 2:08beginning, I want to talk about the way
54. 2:10people often do playback in the notation
55. 2:13editor and why that can be very non
56. 2:15ideal. So that'll give some motivation
57. 2:17behind why it makes sense to do this
58. 2:19kind of synchronization in the first
59. 2:21place. Now here I am in Doro. This is
60. 2:24the notated version of the music from
61. 2:25the logic project. And it isn't super
62. 2:28detailed notation, but I like to have
63. 2:30notation of this sort because I can very
64. 2:32readily get a highlevel overview of the
65. 2:35music of what's going on. Whereas in
66. 2:37Logic or any DAW, it's kind of difficult
67. 2:39to get that kind of highlevel overview.
68. 2:42It's tough to look at this and quickly
69. 2:44see what's going on harmonically,
70. 2:46melodically, rhythmically. Whereas here
71. 2:48in this one single view, you get all
72. 2:51that. It's kind of like looking at an
73. 2:52architectural blueprint. So anyway, once
74. 2:55you're in the notation editor, obviously
75. 2:57you want to be able to play back. So one
76. 2:59way people typically go about playing
77. 3:00back in a notation editor is you just
78. 3:02load up VSTs like you would in a DA.
79. 3:04Even though in notation editors, you're
80. 3:06typically a little more limited with
81. 3:07what you can do, but anyway, you can
82. 3:09load them up. So here in Doro under the
83. 3:11VST and MIDI tab, you would have to load
84. 3:14every single VST you plan on using, and
85. 3:17you might have to fiddle with its
86. 3:18presets, get everything how you wanted.
87. 3:20And so that's obviously a decent amount
88. 3:22of work. I've already done that. If I
89. 3:24wanted to add something here, I would
90. 3:26have to go all the way to the bottom,
91. 3:28hit that plus button and go searching
92. 3:30for VST. And in Duro, it's kind of
93. 3:32weird. You don't have scroll bars here.
94. 3:34So, you have to use the mouse scroll
95. 3:35wheel or something to see what else is
96. 3:37in that list. That can be kind of
97. 3:39tedious. And then, not only that, you
98. 3:41have to go back to this track inspector
99. 3:43and then for every single track, you
100. 3:45have to now choose one of those VSCs
101. 3:48that you loaded. And I've already gone
102. 3:49ahead and done that for this project.
103. 3:51But things aren't quite that easy.
104. 3:53There's some tricky moments that can
105. 3:54come about. For instance, in my case,
106. 3:57this choir in Logic, that choir part,
107. 3:59it's multi- channelannel MIDI. So in
108. 4:01this case, I was using various MIDI
109. 4:03channels to play back different types of
110. 4:04vowel sounds. So here in Opus, there's
111. 4:07MIDI channel 1 2 3 4 for the A, E, O, oo
112. 4:11sounds. But in this case, I just
113. 4:13couldn't find a preset that had these as
114. 4:15articulation switches, and I didn't want
115. 4:17to create custom articulation switch
116. 4:19version of this. So, it is what it is.
117. 4:22In a Doro, that would take a good amount
118. 4:23of work to set up the voices for this
119. 4:25choir part and then arrange it so that
120. 4:27Doro could could do independent voice
121. 4:30playback. It's just a lot of extra work
122. 4:32>> and also for percussion. Likewise, you'd
123. 4:35have to do a lot of extra work to get
124. 4:36decent looking notation and plus get the
125. 4:39kind of playback you expect. And then
126. 4:41not only do we deal with those kind of
127. 4:43issues, I also have instruments in Logic
128. 4:45that can only be played in Logic. So
129. 4:47there'd be no way to actually play those
130. 4:49back in Doro. For instance, this track
131. 4:52that's labeled stutter stack, this heavy
132. 4:55fifths, as well as the actual drum
133. 4:57track, which is a Logic drummer part.
134. 4:59And for those three, you would have to
135. 5:01use Mac's IA MIDI driver. So for those
136. 5:04particular tracks, I've already done
137. 5:06that. The routing is to the IA driver
138. 5:08bus one. For the drums, I've chosen
139. 5:10channel 10. For the heavy fifths, I've
140. 5:12chosen channel two. And for the stutter
141. 5:14stack, I've chosen channel one. And then
142. 5:17back in Logic, for each of those tracks,
143. 5:20I have to tell it to listen to the
144. 5:22driver. So I see driver bus one. The
145. 5:25stutter stack, that's channel one. For
146. 5:27those fifths, it was channel two. And
147. 5:29then for drummer, it was channel 10. And
148. 5:32for each of those tracks, I have to hit
149. 5:34the I button so they're all listening
150. 5:36in. Now with all that setup done, we can
151. 5:39play it back in Doro.
152. 6:24Now, right off the bat, the thing I
153. 6:26noticed is the drums are way off, and
154. 6:28that's because of the fact they were
155. 6:29using a combination of the internal VST
156. 6:32routing in Duro plus those instruments
157. 6:35that are being routed to through that IA
158. 6:37driver like the drums and so those are
159. 6:40introducing some latency some delay and
160. 6:43so you'd have to go through all sorts of
161. 6:45pain to be able to get this kind of
162. 6:47playback in sync and also you're not
163. 6:49hearing any of the other production
164. 6:50elements you're only hearing the VSTs
165. 6:53producing their output so all the work I
166. 6:55did on the production and logic the
167. 6:57effects effects, all the mixing,
168. 6:59everything involved in creating this
169. 7:01production. I'm not going to have the
170. 7:02benefit of hearing that in Duro. Now, a
171. 7:05second way people tend to go about
172. 7:07playback, at least on the Mac side, is
173. 7:09they'll route all of their MIDI directly
174. 7:11to Logic. And we kind of got a preview
175. 7:14of how to do that when I showed you how
176. 7:16we use those IC drivers. So, now let's
177. 7:18have all playback go back through the IC
178. 7:21driver. And that way, all the
179. 7:23instruments should be in sync with one
180. 7:25another. So now I've just opened up a
181. 7:26different version of this Doracle
182. 7:28project where I already have all those
183. 7:29tracks set up to play back through that
184. 7:31IEC driver or actually drivers in this
185. 7:33case. And the first thing to do before
186. 7:35even using that IC driver is you have to
187. 7:37go to the audio MIDI tool and logic. So
188. 7:39under applications utilities audio MIDI
189. 7:43setup and then go to window show MIDI
190. 7:45studio and you might see this IC driver
191. 7:48but grayed out not with this bright red
192. 7:50color here. So what you do is you just
193. 7:52click on it, double click on it rather,
194. 7:54and then you make sure that for each bus
195. 7:57you have that device is online is
196. 7:59checked off. Each bus can support 16
197. 8:02MIDI channels. I added a whole bunch of
198. 8:03buses so that I could deal with as many
199. 8:05channels as I need. And you would do
200. 8:07likewise for your case. So I'm going to
201. 8:09close out of here. And for each of those
202. 8:11buses that I plan on using in Doro, I
203. 8:14need to do something in Doro preferences
204. 8:16under play. And you probably think we
205. 8:18need to enable those drivers, but
206. 8:20actually we need to disable them. So by
207. 8:22default, you're going to see all these
208. 8:24checked off, whatever MIDI input devices
209. 8:26you have on your system. So in my case,
210. 8:28these were initially checked off, all of
211. 8:30them, and then I just unchecked them.
212. 8:33This is to prevent internal MIDI loops
213. 8:35going from the output back to the input.
214. 8:37So anyway, it's just something you need
215. 8:39to do on the Doro side. So that's the
216. 8:41first thing. And then on the play tab
217. 8:44under VST and MIDI under MIDI
218. 8:47instruments. Now see here I don't have
219. 8:48any VSC instruments because everything's
220. 8:50just going to get played back in Logic.
221. 8:52So under MIDI instruments I've chosen
222. 8:54the IC driver bus one which will give me
223. 8:5716 channels and then driver bus 2 to
224. 9:00give me the additional channels I'll
225. 9:02need because I have more than 16 tracks
226. 9:04here. And now I'll go back to the track
227. 9:06inspector and for every single one of
228. 9:09these tracks I need to choose an IC
229. 9:11driver bus and a MIDI channel. So I'm
230. 9:14starting with channel one on driver bus
231. 9:17one and then channel two also driver bus
232. 9:19one etc. all the way up until I view 16
233. 9:22channels. So that happens when I come to
234. 9:25this particular bell synth. So now I've
235. 9:27switched to driver bus two and now back
236. 9:30to channel one. And again I'm going to
237. 9:32increment those all the way up. So
238. 9:33that's what you do on the Doro side.
239. 9:36Then on the Logic side, you have to do a
240. 9:39mirror image of that setup. So here for
241. 9:41every single track, I'm choosing the IC
242. 9:44driver bus the same way I chose it in
243. 9:46Doro and assigning it the same channel
244. 9:48to listen in on. And I'm hitting this I
245. 9:51button so that it shows up as orange.
246. 9:53That means it's going to be listening to
247. 9:55that incoming MIDI. And so I've done
248. 9:57that for every single track. And so now
249. 10:00we can play back the project.
250. 10:09Now, one thing to know right away is
251. 10:10notice how in Logic there's nothing
252. 10:12happening in the transport. This isn't
253. 10:14actually synchronizing with the Logic
254. 10:16project. This is just sending the MIDI
255. 10:18into these Logic tracks going through
256. 10:20the loaded VSTs in Logic and those VSTs
257. 10:23are directly producing the output. So
258. 10:25again, like in the first case of just
259. 10:27having Duro play using the VSTs that we
260. 10:29loaded here, this case of just using the
261. 10:32VSTs and Logic isn't all that much
262. 10:34different, but we're still not hearing
263. 10:36any of the effects that were used in
264. 10:38Logic, none of the production elements,
265. 10:39the mixing, all that. That still isn't
266. 10:42being heard. We're just getting
267. 10:43synchronized playback among the
268. 10:44instruments so that we don't have those
269. 10:46weird issues of some being in sync, some
270. 10:48not. So if we listen to this towards
271. 10:51where those drums come in now, we should
272. 10:53hear that things are better in terms of
273. 10:55sync.
274. 11:11Now the one thing to notice here is the
275. 11:13cursor is no longer corresponding to
276. 11:16when we have the output. So, if we go
277. 11:18back to the very beginning, you'll
278. 11:20notice that when the output finally
279. 11:21comes, the cursor is is at beat two or
280. 11:25so.
281. 11:31That isn't a huge deal. It's just
282. 11:32something to be aware of. It might get a
283. 11:34little annoying to always see that
284. 11:35offset. And the other thing too about
285. 11:38these first two approaches, because the
286. 11:40Logic project is not being played back,
287. 11:42you can't hear any recorded audio. So in
288. 11:45this particular project, I've recorded
289. 11:47guitar and I've simply doubled it with a
290. 11:49synth version of that guitar. And so in
291. 11:51these playback methods I'm talking about
292. 11:53right now in Doro, we're only hearing
293. 11:55MIDI playback. So that leads me to the
294. 11:57whole point of this video, which is the
295. 11:59kind of synchronization that I showed at
296. 12:00the very beginning. And I wanted to give
297. 12:02you some motivation for why I think this
298. 12:04approach is better. So now let's get
299. 12:06into those details. Okay. Finally, the
300. 12:09whole point of the video, how to times
301. 12:10synchronize Doro with Logic. So the
302. 12:13logic project itself will play back in
303. 12:16sync. So this is surprisingly easy. It's
304. 12:18actually far easier than the previous
305. 12:20two methods which had you loading a
306. 12:21bunch of VSTs, setting up all sorts of
307. 12:23routing as well as all the other issues
308. 12:25I discussed. So the first step here is
309. 12:29simply in Duro under play VST and MIDI
310. 12:33you have to load this TXL time code
311. 12:35plugin. That plugin can be found on this
312. 12:38website. So you just scroll down and
313. 12:40there's a demo version available. Now,
314. 12:42that demo will periodically turn itself
315. 12:44off. So, you have to keep on reenabling
316. 12:46the plugin and resetting it up, which is
317. 12:48kind of annoying. So, once I realize
318. 12:50that it works, does what it's advertised
319. 12:51to do. I just bought it cuz it's a
320. 12:53pretty awesome plugin and it's the thing
321. 12:55that enables us to do what we're doing
322. 12:57right now. Do that by hitting this plus
323. 12:59button here, add. And then you'll find
324. 13:00that in your list under TXL20. Hit that
325. 13:04right arrow and then it's going to say
326. 13:05synth, even though it's not a synth. Hit
327. 13:07that right arrow. Then you'll finally
328. 13:09see the plugin which you can load. And
329. 13:12then all you need to do is choose MTC.
330. 13:15Then for the MIDI, choose some IC
331. 13:18driver. I'll choose the first one. And
332. 13:20then I'm going to choose the FPS to
333. 13:22correspond with what I have in Logic.
334. 13:24That project is 25 frames per second. So
335. 13:27that's all we need to do. So we just
336. 13:29have this one VSC instrument, that TXL
337. 13:31time code. We don't even need to add
338. 13:33anything under MIDI instruments. Notice
339. 13:35how in the plugin itself, it's able to
340. 13:37see those MIDI outputs. So, we already
341. 13:39chose it there. Nothing to add here.
342. 13:45And then for any given track, I don't
343. 13:47think it's even important which one. Go
344. 13:49over to track inspector and then under
345. 13:51routing, choose that TXL time code
346. 13:53plugin. And that's it. For the other
347. 13:55tracks, I didn't choose anything. The
348. 13:57routing is just empty except for one
349. 13:59track. And now on the logic side, go to
350. 14:03file, project settings, synchronization.
351. 14:10And then I think by default, Logic has
352. 14:12this plays at SM PTE set to 1 hour in.
353. 14:16We're going to set that to zero cuz that
354. 14:18TXL time code plugin, it is associating
355. 14:21000000 with R1, B1, etc. So make sure
356. 14:25you set it that way. Here's my logic
357. 14:27frame rate 25. That's what I also set in
358. 14:30that TXL time code plugin. I don't know
359. 14:32if this makes a difference. I check it
360. 14:34off anyway. Auto detect format of MTC.
361. 14:37Under MIDI here, destination, nothing.
362. 14:40Nothing to do here because we're not
363. 14:41sending MTC from Logic. There's no
364. 14:43destination from Logic. Logic is the
365. 14:46destination from Doro. None of this
366. 14:48matters. Keep that all unchecked. Now,
367. 14:50under MIDI sync settings, I think this
368. 14:53is the default. You can keep things as
369. 14:56are. Now, notice how in Logic, notice
370. 14:58how we have this sync icon lit up.
371. 15:01Also, notice I've turned off the input
372. 15:03monitoring for all these tracks. We
373. 15:05don't need any of that. We don't need to
374. 15:06tell these tracks to be listening to an
375. 15:08IEC driver or anything. All we need to
376. 15:11do is just make those settings that we
377. 15:13just did under project settings
378. 15:14synchronization. And that's it. Now,
379. 15:16I'll go back to Doro. By the way, notice
380. 15:18how Doro is showing the BPMs as 140
381. 15:22starting at bar 2. In Logic, there was
382. 15:24no BPM change at bar two. The whole
383. 15:26project is at 140 BPM. But maybe because
384. 15:29I imported this brass synth track that
385. 15:32had its music starting at bar two,
386. 15:34that's how it decided to insert that BPM
387. 15:36at bar 2. But either way, this first bar
388. 15:38is empty, so it's not too important.
389. 15:44And now we can hit play and we'll have
390. 15:46synchronization of the project in Logic.
391. 15:48And it doesn't matter where the cursor
392. 15:50initially is in Logic. I just set it
393. 15:52back to the beginning. It also doesn't
394. 15:53matter where we start in Doro. Either
395. 15:56way, it's going to play back at the same
396. 15:58position. They're going to be synced.
397. 16:00So, we'll hit play.
398. 16:03And now see what's happening here.
399. 16:27So, right off the bat, we see the sync
400. 16:28is really good. And I want to show you
401. 16:30what happens if for some reason you
402. 16:32decided you wanted that BPM to be at the
403. 16:35very beginning. So, if you notice
404. 16:36something similar in your project and
405. 16:37your instinct is, hey, let me move this
406. 16:39back to the very beginning. And now we
407. 16:41hit play.
408. 16:53So now the cursor and the audio output
409. 16:56aren't syncing up. It isn't a huge deal.
410. 16:58Whereas before we're hearing the output
411. 17:00corresponding where the cursor is in
412. 17:03this case,
413. 17:09>> it seems to be one or two beats behind.
414. 17:12Whereas we keep it the way it was
415. 17:13before, we have good sync between the
416. 17:15audio output and the location of the
417. 17:17cursor.
418. 17:30And also you might notice sometimes at
419. 17:32the very beginning there's some weird
420. 17:33things that can happen. So here it looks
421. 17:36like it was pitch shift a little bit and
422. 17:37then it finally corrected itself. So
423. 17:39just something to watch out for. But I
424. 17:41noticed sometimes it happens, sometimes
425. 17:42it doesn't. It's kind of unpredictable.
426. 17:48Something worth testing is to see what
427. 17:49happens if we have an additional tempo
428. 17:51change. So I'll go add a change
429. 17:53somewhere. Let's say at bar 11 here.
430. 17:56Shift T.
431. 17:59So we'll have that go up to 150 beats
432. 18:01per minute at bar 11. And in Logic have
433. 18:04to do the same thing.
434. 18:09And I'll start playback a little before
435. 18:11that.
436. 18:29So the tempo change seemed to be
437. 18:31handled. Okay. Synchronization stayed in
438. 18:33lock. And the other benefit of this
439. 18:36approach is now we're hearing the true
440. 18:38project in the current state that you
441. 18:40have it at. So whereas here I imported
442. 18:43cleaned up MIDI tracks that I did for
443. 18:45notation purposes, I can still play back
444. 18:47and have all the nuance. So I didn't
445. 18:49have to lose any of the humanization
446. 18:51that I applied to the MIDI. And I could
447. 18:53even go to a place where I haven't
448. 18:55notated the music, for instance, the
449. 18:56outro. And I'll still hear playback
450. 18:59here, which could be useful if I have,
451. 19:00say, a guitar part I recorded in the
452. 19:02notation editor. I might be working on
453. 19:04transcribing that.
454. 19:28All right, looks like I did get some
455. 19:30notation in for this dreamy synth for a
456. 19:32couple bars there. But anyway, that's
457. 19:34another benefit is that you can stay in
458. 19:35the notation editor while you're working
459. 19:37on the notation. You have the audio
460. 19:39playback just the way you want it in
461. 19:40Logic. I want to show you what happens
462. 19:43if you don't set this to zero. So, if
463. 19:45it's set to one, like Logic is by
464. 19:47default, and then we play the project.
465. 19:49Look how Logic is stuck back at minus
466. 19:52bar 9 or something in this infinite loop
467. 19:54as Doro is continuing along forward in
468. 19:57time. Logic went back in time, some kind
469. 20:00of dystopian past. Can't figure out what
470. 20:03to do there. So that's why it's
471. 20:04important to make that setting under
472. 20:06synchronization.
473. 20:09And obviously for projects that it makes
474. 20:11sense to have that at one. Put that at
475. 20:13one. But for this kind of
476. 20:14synchronization work, put it at zero.
477. 20:16And now if we hit play,
478. 20:23now Logic understands what to do with
479. 20:25that incoming MTC. The other thing to
480. 20:27pay attention, and this is really the
481. 20:29least important part of this whole
482. 20:31entire video, but maybe for some people
483. 20:33it's interesting. Notice how when you
484. 20:35hit play, Logic jumps back to bar zero
485. 20:38and something. You see that? You have to
486. 20:41be focusing your eyes on the upper left
487. 20:43corner, which would be kind of a weird
488. 20:45thing to do as you're watching a video.
489. 20:47But if that happens to draw your
490. 20:48attention and it annoys you, there's
491. 20:50something you can do about it. And I
492. 20:52actually do find it kind of annoying.
493. 20:53You know, there's something unnatural.
494. 20:54kind of like when I watch people who are
495. 20:56driving on those Segways, you know, the
496. 20:58weird way their body is is vertical with
497. 21:00their arms vertically hanging down,
498. 21:03their hands vertical, just that that
499. 21:05whole strange vertical look. It's like
500. 21:07it's against biology, against evolution.
501. 21:10Maybe that's why I find it so odd and
502. 21:12and unnerving. So, if you find this
503. 21:14unnerving as well, there's something you
504. 21:16can actually do about it. You can go to
505. 21:18file, project settings, synchronization,
506. 21:20where we were initially when we were
507. 21:21setting this all up. And then under
508. 21:23MIDI, MIDI sync settings, add a MTC
509. 21:26pickup delay. I find that if I add say
510. 21:28eight frames, now if I hit play, you
511. 21:31shouldn't see that nonsense. If you're
512. 21:33going back to bar zero and something
513. 21:46now did have that nonsense where
514. 21:48initially the pitch was up a little bit
515. 21:50and I haven't figured out a way to get
516. 21:52that to never happen. It seems kind of
517. 21:54unpredictable. If anybody can figure
518. 21:56that out, please put it in the comments.
519. 21:58It would be awesome to get rid of that
520. 22:00kind of strange pitch glitchy behavior
521. 22:02that sometimes happens in the first bar
522. 22:04or two. If anybody's wondering, I've
523. 22:06actually tried this in Musecore as well.
524. 22:08In fact, my whole reason for switching
525. 22:10from Muscore to Duro was the fact that I
526. 22:13couldn't do this in Muscore. In Muscore,
527. 22:16I added this TXL time code to one track.
528. 22:20I set it up the same way I did in Doro.
529. 22:23Send on IC driver bus one. And no matter
530. 22:26what you do in Musecore under audio
531. 22:28MIDI, if I deactivate these to prevent
532. 22:31them from having a negative effect on
533. 22:32this plugin's action, nothing happens.
534. 22:35Even though Logic is listening to MTC
535. 22:37and this time code plugin should be
536. 22:39outputting it, nothing's happening. So
537. 22:41it seems in Musecore, even if you have
538. 22:44this TXL time plugin and this plugin
539. 22:46thinks it can send MTC, it seems to not
540. 22:49be receiving what it needs from
541. 22:50Musecore. So, Musecore is interfering in
542. 22:53this plugin's ability to send MTC from
543. 22:56the timing info that's in Muscore. And
544. 22:59it's kind of a weird decision. I have no
545. 23:00idea why in Muscore they wouldn't want
546. 23:02you to have that ability. But anyway, if
547. 23:04anybody can disprove me, can get this
548. 23:06working, please let me know. Anyway,
549. 23:09that's that. I hope you enjoyed the
550. 23:11video. I hope you appreciate this kind
551. 23:13of synchronization that you can get now
552. 23:14between your notation program, Doro, and
553. 23:17Logic. I think for a lot of people, this
554. 23:19actually would be your preferred
555. 23:20workflow if you're working in a DAW and
556. 23:22you're doing some notation work. It
557. 23:24doesn't make too much sense to be doing
558. 23:26a whole ton of VST routing in the
559. 23:28notation editor cuz that's not their
560. 23:30strength because after all, you already
561. 23:31have all that work that you did in your
562. 23:33DAW and the synchronization setup like I
563. 23:35showed you is actually pretty easy. And
564. 23:37so with this approach, I think you have
565. 23:38pretty good integration between your
566. 23:40production work and the DAW side and
567. 23:42whatever you want to do on theation
568. 23:43side. For those of you interested, I'll
569. 23:45go more into detail on how I set up
570. 23:47these kind of projects in Logic, the
571. 23:49whole thought process, how I tend to
572. 23:51think like an arranger or orchestrator
573. 23:53for organizing my music and producing it
574. 23:56in Logic. So, that'll be in some
575. 23:58upcoming videos. Anyway, till next time.
576. 24:07Heat. Heat.