How To Start An AI Lead Gen Agency & Get Clients In Under 7 Days | Step By Step — Transcript
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- 0:00So, I made over $240,000 over the past
- 0:03year with my AI lead generation agency.
- 0:05And in this video, I'm going to go
- 0:07through everything that you need to know
- 0:08to start your agency today and land your
- 0:10first client or your next client within
- 0:12the next 3 to seven days. I'm going to
- 0:14go through everything from the offer to
- 0:16the niche for proven to work acquisition
- 0:19systems that we use to this day in our
- 0:21agency with scripts and everything. Live
- 0:24appointment setting, live sales call,
- 0:26literally everything you need to know.
- 0:27for proof. Here's a payment processors
- 0:29here on screen. They should be
- 0:31refreshing. And just so you know, I have
- 0:33absolutely nothing to sell you. So,
- 0:35you're not going to see any fancy
- 0:37editing here. We're going to go straight
- 0:38into the sauce and we're going to have
- 0:40the highest value per minute possible.
- 0:42So, that's why I'm so confident in the
- 0:44value in this video that all I'm asking
- 0:46you is to commit to watching five
- 0:48minutes. Literally, five minutes. Set a
- 0:50timer on your phone. 5 minutes. And I
- 0:52guarantee you'll see the value of this
- 0:55video is so high that you're going to
- 0:56want to keep watching. So, I'm not going
- 0:57to ask you to watch the whole video
- 0:58because that would be too much to ask
- 1:00you. You probably don't know me, don't
- 1:01like me, don't trust me. But watch five
- 1:03minutes and you'll see that this video
- 1:05is worth your time. So, without further
- 1:06ado, let's get straight into it. And
- 1:09here we go. So, first of all, congrats
- 1:10for making it past the introduction.
- 1:12Here's everything that you're going to
- 1:13get today. We'll start with the model.
- 1:15So, we'll first break down the different
- 1:16types of agencies and why you should go
- 1:18with an A generation agency in the first
- 1:20place and then what offer you should
- 1:22have. You know, it's not really it's the
- 1:23model more than the offer. the offer is
- 1:25I will present the model to you know
- 1:28clients. So retainer, rev share, paper
- 1:31lead, paper appointment. You've probably
- 1:32heard of all of them. If you've not,
- 1:33don't worry. We're going to go through
- 1:34all of them. And I'm going to tell you
- 1:36not only which one you should pick if
- 1:38you're starting out, but also why.
- 1:39Because if you understand why when
- 1:41things get hard, when there's
- 1:43challenges, because there always going
- 1:44to be challenges in business, uh
- 1:46especially with an agency like this,
- 1:47when that happens, you're not going to
- 1:49question your foundation. and you're
- 1:50going to question your model and make
- 1:53crazy pivots that you don't need to do.
- 1:54So that's why we're going to go through
- 1:56this first section and why you shouldn't
- 1:58skip this section. Second section, the
- 1:59offer. So we're going to go through all
- 2:01the niches so you can see which one you
- 2:03should pick. Um the actual offer, how
- 2:05are we going to present our model to
- 2:07these niches? The ICP, ideal client
- 2:10profile, who are we looking to speak to,
- 2:12who are we going to speak to and going
- 2:13to target? and uh the funnel. So all the
- 2:17different pages and calendar
- 2:19automations, stuff like that. Client
- 2:21acquisition, that's where the sauce
- 2:23really starts to get juicy. Uh we have
- 2:26again uh the offer. So how we're going
- 2:29to present the offer through
- 2:31um to our clients. Then SMS, cold email,
- 2:35paid ads, and content. All different
- 2:38acquisition systems. And I'm going to
- 2:39show you not only why they work, but
- 2:41also how to set them up. and then sales.
- 2:44So, appointment setting, sales script,
- 2:46objection handling, and live sales call.
- 2:48And we also have a live appointment
- 2:49setting call right here. So, that's also
- 2:51why this video maybe looks so long um on
- 2:54a time lapse on time frame because it's
- 2:57actually showing that as well. Uh so,
- 3:00let's get started with the model. So,
- 3:01there's a new wave of agencies, okay?
- 3:04And as an AI generation agency, you help
- 3:07physical businesses generate more leads
- 3:10and you use AI systems to help them
- 3:13convert them, retain clients, and
- 3:15optimize all areas of uh the business.
- 3:19It's that simple. That is what an AI
- 3:20generation agency is. And that is really
- 3:22what, as you're going to see in a
- 3:23second, the difference with an SMA and a
- 3:25normal agency. So imagine this is you.
- 3:27Okay, I'm going to zoom in a little bit
- 3:28because I know I'm on a big screen. I
- 3:30don't know how big yours is. Let's zoom
- 3:32in a little bit. Here we have you. You
- 3:34can provide them with as many qualified
- 3:36leads as you want as an lead generation
- 3:38agency or as an SMA. But if they have
- 3:41cracks in their system, in their bucket,
- 3:43which is sales, speed to lead, local
- 3:45SEO, reviews, if they don't have have
- 3:48all of that, they will still lose some
- 3:51of the value that you provide. So the
- 3:52value you provide is not going to be
- 3:54maximized. Okay? And that's the main
- 3:55difference from a standard SMA and a
- 3:58standard legion agency. An SMA only run
- 4:01ads on social media and manages socials.
- 4:03That is what a social media marketing
- 4:05agency is. That's what it is. While a
- 4:08standard legion agency only provides
- 4:10leads. For example, Angie, I know that's
- 4:13probably the biggest example of legion
- 4:15agency that you can come up because it
- 4:17then also became a marketplace. But if
- 4:19you look at NG
- 4:21uh ng.com, okay, so now it's doing all
- 4:25this security stuff, but they all they
- 4:27do is payer lead for home service
- 4:29businesses. And all they do is sell
- 4:32leads. And let me check NG revenue
- 4:362025. Let's see what they made last
- 4:39year. So last year they made a billion
- 4:42dollars selling leads. All they do is
- 4:44they sell leads. Okay, so that's what a
- 4:47lead generation company or agency does.
- 4:49They just sell leads. They don't help
- 4:51with any of the remaining uh problems in
- 4:54their business. Okay, which is what
- 4:56you're going to do because you will
- 4:57solve the biggest problem in the
- 4:58business, which is a consistent flow of
- 5:00qualified leads and then you will use AI
- 5:03systems to pretty much uh increase their
- 5:08ROI on the leads that they get. And it's
- 5:09pretty much guaranteed. It's not that
- 5:10hard. You're not you don't need to be a
- 5:12AI wizard or nothing like that. It's
- 5:13very simple stuff. And if you do this
- 5:15right, because you have the AI side of
- 5:18things, you will become irreplaceable in
- 5:20any business you work with. While lead
- 5:22generation agencies come and go because
- 5:25they just, you know, clients rotate them
- 5:27and want to diversify their leads and
- 5:29where the providers and okay, this guy
- 5:32didn't work. I'm going to go with the
- 5:33other guy. You also have the AI set of
- 5:36things in their business and they do not
- 5:37want to give that up. So, they will stay
- 5:39with you for longer. Now that we are
- 5:42clear on what an AI lead generation even
- 5:44is, okay, uh, retainer versus percentage
- 5:48versus PPL versus PPA. Okay. Now, what
- 5:52I'm going to tell you is that there's a
- 5:53few different models you can pick from.
- 5:54And the truth is that the model you pick
- 5:56is arguably the most important that you
- 5:58will make here today and what will make
- 6:00the difference between 20 to 30% margins
- 6:03and 50 to 70% margins. closing your
- 6:06first client within three or seven days
- 6:09and closing your first client in in the
- 6:10first two months. It took us almost a
- 6:12month to close our first client. That's
- 6:14going to be the difference between
- 6:15scaling to $30,000 a month with one two
- 6:17people. Uh because that's what me and my
- 6:19business partner did. It's just us two
- 6:20and we pay an editor, you know, uh $100
- 6:24a month or $200 a month depending on how
- 6:26many editing I need done and scaling to
- 6:28those numbers with four people. I saw
- 6:30this guy, okay, on Jeremy Haynes
- 6:33channel. I'm just bringing it up because
- 6:34it's the same pretty much niche. These
- 6:36guys are about normal SMA. They scaled
- 6:38it to $300,000 a month. They have 10 SM
- 6:41CMS them too accountant. They have sales
- 6:45reps, media buyers, they have everything
- 6:48and their margins are 15%.
- 6:51Okay, the margins are 15% and uh they
- 6:55have 20 people in the team. Like I don't
- 6:57want that. I want to scale to 30K a
- 6:59month and then obviously even more with
- 7:02a one two people team. I want to stay
- 7:03lean. Okay, so that's just a good
- 7:06example to show that what I'm talking
- 7:07about is real. These guys make $300,000
- 7:09a month and have 15% margins. That's
- 7:12less than a 60k a month agency with 50%
- 7:15margins. Think about it. We can get
- 7:17there easy without any more people than
- 7:19me and my business partner because of
- 7:21the model that we picked, which is going
- 7:22to we're going to get into in a second.
- 7:25And another difference, you know, you're
- 7:27going to see, are you going to make
- 7:29$30,000 per client in lifetime value or
- 7:32$2,000 per client in lifetime value? No.
- 7:34The model makes a big difference. I can
- 7:36show you proof. I have clients, I'm
- 7:37going to put it here on screen
- 7:38somewhere. I have clients who paid us um
- 7:41$30,000 a month or $30,000 already. One
- 7:44single client, $20,000 another one. They
- 7:47stay with us for over a year because of
- 7:49the model we picked. And it's going to
- 7:51Exactly. It's going to see you're going
- 7:52to see the difference between retaining
- 7:53clients for over a year and turning them
- 7:55every 30 days. It really depends on the
- 7:57model you pick and on the offer you
- 7:59make. And before you can pick your
- 8:00model, you need to first of all
- 8:01understand what the priority of an AI
- 8:03regeneration agency even is. And it's
- 8:05not running ads for your clients. It's
- 8:07not designing a new website with cloud.
- 8:09It's not integrating an AI receptionist
- 8:11like all these people. I am so tired of
- 8:14all these AI agencies. AI agencies. What
- 8:16is an AI agency? I don't know. It's so
- 8:18abstract as a concept. This is very
- 8:21actually concrete. It's very concrete
- 8:23and uh the truth is it's all about the
- 8:26leads. The key word is leads. The
- 8:28keyword is leads. That was what an AI
- 8:30generation agency even is. It's leads
- 8:32plus AI because the money is in the
- 8:35leads. And the reason is simple that
- 8:37make businesses money. Every businesses
- 8:39every business needs leads to make
- 8:41money. So if you can provide qualified
- 8:43high intent leads for them at a
- 8:45profitable price, they will just start
- 8:47throwing money at you. I mean think
- 8:49about it. If they're profitable, it
- 8:51would literally be stupid for them not
- 8:53to buy more leads from you. And that's
- 8:55as long as your business can handle the
- 8:57work. But we'll talk about that very
- 8:59soon. For example, uh a construction
- 9:01business can't take unlimited jobs. They
- 9:04need to build a bigger crew and expand
- 9:06before they can do that once they reach
- 9:08their capacity. A dental studio can only
- 9:10take a certain amount of leads before
- 9:12being booked out. Then, you know, they
- 9:14would need to hire new people or open a
- 9:16new location. That is the only um
- 9:19problem you know with um with this. It's
- 9:22not scalable to the infinite when it's
- 9:24about physical businesses. It depends on
- 9:26the niche when we get into that. So the
- 9:28first thing we learned after running the
- 9:29agency in the first six months I think
- 9:31the biggest lesson in six months was
- 9:32that the money is in the leads. The
- 9:34money is in the leads and appointments
- 9:36because they are what directly impacts
- 9:38revenue and have a more tangible ROI for
- 9:41the business. And so it's easier to
- 9:43close and justify the price when you
- 9:44give something that actually makes
- 9:47money. And the second thing that we only
- 9:49learned really after one year uh is that
- 9:52your client's business size dictates the
- 9:54amount of leads that they can actually
- 9:55handle. And so the amount of money that
- 9:57you can make from them per month. So for
- 10:00context, we closed over 110 clients in
- 10:02our agency since start since starting
- 10:05it. I think it was 15 months ago. And 15
- 10:08of them actually turned out to be
- 10:10decent, good, profitable clients. And
- 10:12five to six of them actually had the
- 10:14capacity to spend over $10,000 a month
- 10:16in leads. Now we have some that spend
- 10:17over $20,000 a month in leads. But it
- 10:21just took us a year pretty much to
- 10:22figure out this stuff and you now know
- 10:24it. So that is going to impact who we go
- 10:27after, what niche you pick and how we
- 10:29approach them. So, [clears throat] and
- 10:31that's really because if we had known
- 10:33what a good client was sooner and that
- 10:35not every client is the same, it's not
- 10:37just a numbers game. Oh, let's, you
- 10:39know, close 20 clients and they all will
- 10:41make this much. We would have saved so
- 10:43much time and money that we spent on the
- 10:45other 80% of the clients because really
- 10:47any client takes you the same amount of
- 10:49time to set them up, same amount of time
- 10:51to run the ads, same amount of time to
- 10:53do everything, deliver the leads,
- 10:55doesn't matter. Same amount of time. So
- 10:58why not spending it on good clients
- 10:59instead of bad clients? What I'm saying
- 11:01is every bad client you bring on board
- 11:03actually takes the same amount of time
- 11:04of a good client. So it's terrible. So
- 11:07that said, let's get into the different
- 11:08models. Starting with the retainer
- 11:11model. So what this offer is pretty much
- 11:13when you have this model, you're
- 11:15charging a fixed 1 to 2k month retainer
- 11:18per client plus their plus the ad spent.
- 11:21Adspent, I mean when you're starting
- 11:22out, small SMAs charge $900 a month in
- 11:25ads. uh connected directly to the
- 11:28client's um ad account. You run ads from
- 11:31their ad account. So, you need to get
- 11:32access to all of their stuff and stuff
- 11:34like that. So, pretty much usually it's
- 11:35$30 a day to start these small agencies.
- 11:38They charge $30 a day in ads spent. So,
- 11:40if you understood the point of an agent
- 11:43agency
- 11:44right now, you should see this and
- 11:47understand why this is not optimal for
- 11:49you. That's because it caps the amount
- 11:50of money that you can make per month per
- 11:52client because you can only remake one
- 11:54to 2K a month. And we don't want that
- 11:55because we don't want to have 30 clients
- 11:57paying us a thousand dollars a month. We
- 11:59want four clients paying us 500k a
- 12:01month.
- 12:03Uh so that's already a bad thing. The
- 12:04second thing, your income is not
- 12:06correlated to the value you provide to
- 12:08the business since you get paid
- 12:10regardless. So you have no incentive for
- 12:13them to win. And the client knows that
- 12:15deep down. The client knows that. And
- 12:16that's the thing that really I struggle
- 12:19with the most. like if I cannot provide
- 12:21value to this person or I have no
- 12:23incentive to provide value to this
- 12:24person, it's just most of the time I
- 12:27will cut corners. That's just what
- 12:28people do, cut corners. And that's what
- 12:30you see with all these retainer agencies
- 12:32that get so many disputes and it's going
- 12:36to make it harder for you to close
- 12:37because people see that you actually
- 12:39don't have to get them the results. And
- 12:42third, people in all industries have
- 12:43already been bured by retainers before.
- 12:45So, it's definitely harder to close a
- 12:48deal with a retainer model than with the
- 12:51models I'm going to show you in a
- 12:52second. And you might say, "But I'll
- 12:54give them a guarantee that they'll get
- 12:55at least 30 appointments in the first 30
- 12:57days of working with us or they won't
- 12:59pay." You know, that's very smart. But
- 13:01if you go on the meta ads library, you
- 13:03will see that you actually are not that
- 13:05smart because every second agency is
- 13:07offering that and has been doing that
- 13:08for the past year or so. So, it's not
- 13:10really that good of an offer. And if you
- 13:12think it is, you should read again
- 13:14again. Maybe you probably heard read it
- 13:15before if you're watching this video.
- 13:16Read again $100 million offer from Alex
- 13:19Ramos. So you might say, I make an even
- 13:22crazy offer and then put some clauses in
- 13:24the contract that make it very unlikely
- 13:26for them to be eligible for a refund.
- 13:29Okay? And what I can tell you from
- 13:30experience is that most business owners,
- 13:32first of all, are not stupid. And having
- 13:34them sign a contract like that creates a
- 13:36lot of friction in the closing process.
- 13:38And everything I speak about in this
- 13:39course, I've done it. I've experienced
- 13:42it on my skin. I've tried it. So, I can
- 13:44tell you with deals, everything sounds
- 13:46great. Yeah, let's get to the contract.
- 13:48See the contract, see the clauses. And
- 13:49like, I'm not going to sign with this.
- 13:50And I'm like, "Oh, okay. Let me take it
- 13:52off." So, I take it off so I can close
- 13:54the deal because I need the money. And
- 13:56then we end up not fulfilling because we
- 13:59didn't have those clauses and we make a
- 14:00crazy guarantee
- 14:02and so we have to refund the money.
- 14:05Great. You know, great deal. Great deal.
- 14:06So what I was trying to say is we've
- 14:08also got a couple disputes out of
- 14:10nowhere um after having delivered the
- 14:12service and the clients being profitable
- 14:14and so what I can say is that regardless
- 14:16of the contract sign of everything that
- 14:18doesn't make you safe payment processors
- 14:20also depending on the bank that your
- 14:21clients have they will always give them
- 14:23the priority. It will be very hard for
- 14:25you to win especially as a new business
- 14:26who's not putting in millions of dollars
- 14:28a year. Why would the payment processor
- 14:29prioritize you over the relationship
- 14:31with the bank?
- 14:34They won't. So, uh, making an offer with
- 14:36the mindset that in the worst worst case
- 14:38scenario, you leverage your contract to
- 14:40keep the money is really not the best
- 14:42move. You're better off not charging a
- 14:44retainer and get paid based one on what
- 14:46you actually deliver, which is what the
- 14:48other three models have in common.
- 14:49They're much more performance-based.
- 14:51That way, you don't need guarantees and
- 14:53it's so much easier to close deals. Now,
- 14:55if you prefer if you prefer the retainer
- 14:57model because you want to get paid
- 14:59regardless of whether you deliver the
- 15:00service uh and the results, go ahead.
- 15:03You know, you might close a few clients.
- 15:04We've done it before, but long term, the
- 15:07model will fail eventually. And not so
- 15:09much because the model doesn't work
- 15:11because like I said, I showed there's
- 15:13people who are making $300,000 a month
- 15:15with this model. But it's the intention
- 15:18behind it that will make you lose it in
- 15:20the end. If your intention is just
- 15:22charging this so you can make more and
- 15:23deliver less, doesn't matter what you
- 15:25do, you'll fail. [snorts]
- 15:28Even with the paper lead model, even
- 15:29with any other model. So if you I mean,
- 15:31think about it. If you knew that your
- 15:33service was great and that all your
- 15:34clients would be very profitable working
- 15:36with you, why would you want to create
- 15:38all that friction up front and not make
- 15:40it as easy as possible for the client to
- 15:42sign up and make it performance-based?
- 15:44Yeah, that's what you would do, right?
- 15:46And that's a perfect transition to the
- 15:48next model, which is the rev share
- 15:50model. Now, what this model is pretty
- 15:53much when you think about making an
- 15:54offer with this model is you manage your
- 15:56client's ad spend and you only get paid
- 15:58a percentage of the revenue from the
- 16:00jobs he closes. This is very niche
- 16:02dependent. Not in every job, not in
- 16:05every niche this works, but you let's
- 16:07say the client spends and here obviously
- 16:10the more the client spends the better it
- 16:11is because if they can spend $5,000 a
- 16:13month in ads, you know, you have a
- 16:15chance for them to make a lot with jobs
- 16:17and for you to make a lot of money. But
- 16:20yeah, I don't know. This offer really
- 16:22sounds cool in in theory. In theory, it
- 16:24sounds insane. And that's in fact the
- 16:27first offer that we transition to from
- 16:28the retainer model to like the second
- 16:32offer we transition to last year was the
- 16:33rev share model. And uh just because it
- 16:36sounds cool, it doesn't really make it a
- 16:37good offer for your AI generation
- 16:38agency. And it's the reason is simple.
- 16:41Uh I've tried it and running ads for
- 16:43clients for a month and not getting paid
- 16:45anything. I've done that. And what I
- 16:47realized is that you shouldn't get paid
- 16:49based on an outcome you can't control.
- 16:51Biggest lesson. You shouldn't get paid
- 16:54based on an outcome you can't control.
- 16:56Okay? And that's because we were
- 16:58generating leads, but we weren't setting
- 17:00the appointments and we were not doing
- 17:02the estimates. So, we had no control
- 17:04over the sales process and we had no
- 17:06control whether they would actually
- 17:07close. Meaning, we had no control over
- 17:11getting paid. We could have been doing
- 17:12our jobs perfectly and still not get
- 17:15paid. and maybe they closed and didn't
- 17:16tell us. We have no control over that.
- 17:18So, that prevents you from scaling
- 17:20predictably eventually because you never
- 17:22know if the client will do his part.
- 17:24However, I do think it is a decent offer
- 17:27to start with if you're new in running
- 17:28ads and generating leads because it
- 17:30allows you to learn without risking your
- 17:33own money. You're just risking time
- 17:34really and you're learning every time
- 17:36every new ad you launch. You get data.
- 17:38You see how good it's performing. You
- 17:39see the quality leads that come in. You
- 17:41get data. You learn. Okay. So, I think
- 17:43it's perfect. I actually think it's very
- 17:45very good to get started and who knows
- 17:47maybe you get that one good client that
- 17:48closes like magic and you make money
- 17:50with them and everything's happy and you
- 17:53live to I don't know you end up being
- 17:55business partners I don't know you know
- 17:57nobody knows but the offer this is
- 17:59definitely the offer with the least
- 18:00amount of friction to close so
- 18:02especially if you're new and have no
- 18:04client results it's going to be easier
- 18:06to get clients with an offer like this
- 18:08so overall good model to start not
- 18:10predictable model to scale [snorts]
- 18:13it's very likely for you to make a lot
- 18:15of money with this model. You really
- 18:16need to hit the jackpot, but it's the
- 18:18easiest way to get the feet off the
- 18:19ground. No, no doubt. To get some
- 18:21experience, get some social proof with
- 18:22this model. Now, next, the paper lead
- 18:25model. Interesting stuff happens
- 18:27happening here. Um the paper lead model,
- 18:30what do you do is you put your own money
- 18:32into ads, you generate the leads, you
- 18:34send them to the client, and then charge
- 18:36the client a fee per lead that they
- 18:38receive at the end of each day or week.
- 18:40Now, this is the model that allowed us
- 18:42to go from $4,000 a month charging
- 18:44retainers in June 2025 after four months
- 18:47of starting the agency to $30,000 a
- 18:50month just 60 days later in August. We
- 18:52were making 30,000 a month. Now, we were
- 18:55generating leads for 15 $30 and we were
- 18:59selling them for 60 to 70 and after
- 19:01replacement, we had 45% margins in the
- 19:03back end. Now, our average profit
- 19:05margins are 54%. Now not every niche
- 19:08obviously has the same predisposition
- 19:10towards buying leads [snorts]
- 19:12and we'll see that soon with the niches
- 19:14but for some markets selling
- 19:16appointments is better but in our case
- 19:18specifically that and so far leads
- 19:21selling leads paper lead worked great
- 19:23there's already like I showed you huge
- 19:25companies like Angie Home Advisor
- 19:27selling leads all the time in
- 19:29residential construction niche which is
- 19:30the niche I'm in. So the market
- 19:33definitely already accepts the offer and
- 19:35it was easier for us to get into it and
- 19:37find people with paper. Uh I mean just
- 19:39think of construction companies, car
- 19:41detailing, any home service business,
- 19:42insurance companies, tax attorneys,
- 19:44lawyers. If they can take on more work
- 19:46and they're good at what they do, all
- 19:48they need is more leads. At the end of
- 19:50the day, if they can close, all they
- 19:52need is more leads and they will get
- 19:53more customers. That's all they need. So
- 19:56the economics makes also a lot of sense.
- 19:58I have an example here. This is a sheet
- 19:59that we actually use to close clients on
- 20:02the sales calls, as you're going to see
- 20:03later. Uh, but let's say they have a
- 20:06marketing budget of $3,000 a month.
- 20:10One of their jobs sells for $6,500 on
- 20:12average. Profitability of 40%.
- 20:16Their pay per lead fee is $70, which are
- 20:18$70 per lead. So, with three with $3,000
- 20:20in budget, they will get seven uh 43
- 20:23leads that month. lead to appointment
- 20:26rate if the leads are good. 90% is
- 20:28reasonable. And so you get 38.6
- 20:32appointments booked for this person.
- 20:34Close rate of 20%, nothing exceptional,
- 20:38nothing at all. They close 7.7 deals
- 20:40that month, spending $3,000. Gross
- 20:42revenue 50k, gross profit 20K. Row
- 20:45return on ad spend, return on marketing
- 20:47on leads 6.7x.
- 20:50Final profit 17K after removing the
- 20:53$3,000. So, it's a return on leads final
- 20:56of 5.7K.
- 20:58That's great. That's just great. And
- 21:00that's why the model makes a lot of
- 21:01sense. And the same with the paper
- 21:02appointment model. This will make sense,
- 21:04too. So, what you do here is you
- 21:06[clears throat] go a step further. You
- 21:07control more. You put your money into
- 21:09ads. You generate leads. You set the
- 21:11appointments with the leads. And then
- 21:13you charge the client a fee per
- 21:14appointment taken at the end of each day
- 21:16or week. It's a little more tricky. you
- 21:18definitely need a little more budget to
- 21:20sustain this because maybe you don't get
- 21:22paid until the appointment actually
- 21:24shows up and that appointment might be
- 21:25booked for in a week. So while with
- 21:29paper lead you make your money back
- 21:30instantly as soon as a lead comes in.
- 21:32But if done correctly, this model allows
- 21:34you to be more profitable than the paper
- 21:36lead model because you can control how
- 21:38many of these leads turn into
- 21:40appointments. And if you do it right,
- 21:42you can set up your clients for success
- 21:43on the appointment. Literally, if you
- 21:46frame well when you call these leads,
- 21:48you'll do very well and you will help
- 21:50your client close. You control more. So,
- 21:52you can actually control a little more
- 21:53how happy your client is. However,
- 21:55[snorts] you also take more risks since
- 21:57you only get paid if the leads are
- 21:59qualified in the service area. If you
- 22:02work in a with a businesses where the
- 22:04service area is relevant, they book an
- 22:06appointment and they show up to the
- 22:08appointment. Unless all of these
- 22:09happens, you're not getting paid. So
- 22:11definitely much more risk on your end.
- 22:13Right now, uh, for our clients, we've
- 22:14generated leads for $25. [snorts]
- 22:18We're converting 50% of them into an
- 22:20appointment. So, we're still working on
- 22:23that. We can convert definitely more
- 22:24than that. And we charge $175 per
- 22:26appointment. So, in the first week with
- 22:28this client, he we paid $282 in ads,
- 22:31which was my fault because I wasted $140
- 22:34in the first campaign. As you can see,
- 22:37my fault. I was just testing. But as you
- 22:40can see, we got 19 uh leads. But this is
- 22:44messed up. This tracking is messed up.
- 22:46We actually got 11 leads. One of these
- 22:48was me when I was testing the funnel. So
- 22:51the actual true cost per lead was not
- 22:531487. It's 25.6. Full transparency. And
- 22:57we booked five appointments so far of
- 22:59which the client closed three out of
- 23:00five already. Okay. And this is the
- 23:03message. Another thing, all five showed
- 23:05up. Three signed with us, two pending.
- 23:07Yes, we lowered our margin to 30% to get
- 23:09better feeding and feedback from your
- 23:10guys. And yeah, again, his service is
- 23:13anywhere between $4 to $12,000. So,
- 23:15let's call it a $6,000 average just to
- 23:17be conservative. He said he dropped 30%
- 23:19margins in order to close more. So,
- 23:21these are his number. He paid us 875
- 23:24$6,000
- 23:26cost per estimate of 175
- 23:29um close rate 60%, equals three years of
- 23:32five. He made net profit 5.2x. It's very
- 23:36similar to the return they can get with
- 23:38leads. Okay, simply here they make a
- 23:41little less because they also have to
- 23:44pay for the risk that we're taking. So
- 23:45that's why it's a little less, [snorts]
- 23:48you know, I mean their return a little
- 23:49less for them, but pretty good for us.
- 23:51We got a 3.1x net return for ourselves
- 23:54and that's with a poor 50% booking rate.
- 23:57So it's a win-win as it should be.
- 23:59That's what business is. It's a win-win.
- 24:00You're exchanging value. And in full
- 24:03transparency, we tried this model in
- 24:05July last year, but we failed miserably.
- 24:07We weren't ready for it. So that's why
- 24:08I'm telling you, you need to be a little
- 24:09more experienced for this model because
- 24:11we weren't getting leads at a cheap
- 24:12enough rate to make it profitable. We
- 24:14weren't calling all the leads that came
- 24:15in to book them. We pretty much just let
- 24:18an AI chat do all the work for the
- 24:20appointment setting. [clears throat] And
- 24:22we didn't even have good enough clients
- 24:24who could close client who could close
- 24:26deals and be profitable like this guy
- 24:28was. We didn't have that. So now that we
- 24:30have the a good lead generation system
- 24:33dialed in, it's been a year. We've
- 24:34generated over 3.5K leads,
- 24:38we know that the leads are qualified,
- 24:40that they come in at a profitable rate.
- 24:41We can take on the appointment setting
- 24:42side of things and make more per lead.
- 24:44We just are taking that on now to make
- 24:47more. But this is definitely not the
- 24:49model I recommend you to start with if
- 24:51you're not selling B already, but
- 24:52definitely a model that works. Now, for
- 24:54some niches, this is actually the only
- 24:56offer that makes sense. Think about
- 24:57barbers, med spas, doctors. They don't
- 25:00have an appointment setting team in
- 25:01house that can do that. And they're on
- 25:03the, you know, in the hair salon cutting
- 25:06hair. They're not going to pick up the
- 25:07phone and start, you know, throwing some
- 25:10probing questions, appointment setting
- 25:11and [ __ ] like that. They're not going to
- 25:12do that. So, you need these for these
- 25:15niches, for example, you need to book
- 25:16the appointments directly. So, while
- 25:18we're already talking about niches,
- 25:19let's just get straight into it into the
- 25:21offer and the niches module two. Now the
- 25:24offer is how you present your model to
- 25:26your ICP which is your ideal client
- 25:28profile. Who is your ideal proper ideal
- 25:31client in that niche and the better
- 25:34[clears throat] offer the easier getting
- 25:35clients is. Say me and you are both
- 25:38starting out targeting the same niche
- 25:39and we both hop on the same amount of
- 25:41sales goals. But you offer $2,000
- 25:43upfront and $900 a month for ad spend
- 25:48for three months of lead generation. And
- 25:50I offer a $70 deposit up front. I just
- 25:54ask for that and then just $70 per
- 25:56qualified exclusive lead that I deliver.
- 25:58No front fee besides the lead deposit,
- 26:01no ad spend, no retainer, no threemon
- 26:04contract, nothing. Who do you think will
- 26:06close more deals?
- 26:08Who do you think will close more deals?
- 26:10Probably me. But let's run it out. Let's
- 26:12run it out, you know. Let's play how
- 26:14that would be. So a offer a the
- 26:17retainer, the money up front one, the to
- 26:20up front. Maybe the first month you
- 26:21close two clients, you turn, you don't
- 26:24turn anyone because you don't have
- 26:25anyone. You have two clients active. You
- 26:27make $4,000 cash collected. Your backend
- 26:30revenue is zero. And your gross profit
- 26:32is $4,000 a month. Me with my offer.
- 26:36Month one, I close six new clients. I
- 26:38don't turn anyone. I have six active
- 26:40clients. I only made $420 up front, but
- 26:44I made $6,000 in the back end.
- 26:47Obviously, I also paid for the leads.
- 26:49So, 50% margins. My gross profit was
- 26:523.4K. So, first month, you are winning.
- 26:54You made 4K. I made only 3.4. But month
- 26:58two, you close three new clients. You're
- 27:01pumping it up now. You're doing good.
- 27:03You turn one client because you got a
- 27:04dispute. So, you don't not only did the
- 27:06client turn, but you're giving the money
- 27:07back because you failed to deliver and
- 27:09they're mad and you took 2K and you
- 27:11didn't deliver 2K in value. So, you only
- 27:13have four active clients now. upfront
- 27:16cash $6,000, but $2,000 you gave back.
- 27:19So, you made $4,000 in profit. Me, I
- 27:23closed seven new clients. I turned two
- 27:26because they weren't really clients that
- 27:27was worth working with or that were
- 27:29going to be profitable with paper lead
- 27:31in that service area specifically. So, I
- 27:34have 12 active clients making $490 in
- 27:38upfront cash considering the clients I
- 27:40closed and a backend revenue of $12,000
- 27:44with 50% margins. Okay? And this is
- 27:47include including a mere $1,000 a month
- 27:50in marketing spend per client. Mere
- 27:53$1,000. I have clients paying us $20,000
- 27:56a month in marketing spend. I'll show
- 27:57you, you'll see later, but we would have
- 28:00made a gross profit of $6,500 while that
- 28:03guy would still be at $4,000. Now, month
- 28:05three,
- 28:07close two clients, turn another client,
- 28:09but well dispute, five clients active
- 28:12again, $4,000 a month, and we third
- 28:15month, close a little less, six clients,
- 28:17turn three, we have 15 active clients up
- 28:20from cash 420, and we make $15,000 a
- 28:23month, of which gross profit is 7.9K.
- 28:26Now, which model do you think is more
- 28:28sustainable? Okay, which model do you
- 28:30think works? And that is why people with
- 28:33this model stay stuck at 4,000. Look,
- 28:36every month, $4,000, $4,000, $4,000.
- 28:40That's not enough to even pay the bills.
- 28:41It's not that's not good. That's not
- 28:43good. Especially if you have a business
- 28:44partner. So, and this is actually a
- 28:46realistic way it would play out if you
- 28:48actually do it.
- 28:51And I say that because we've done it. We
- 28:53played it out like that for the first
- 28:54few months. And this is considering that
- 28:56you only get one dispute over three
- 28:58months and that you and that you know
- 29:00considering that I don't close any whale
- 29:02that can spend at least $10,000 a month
- 29:04in leads. If I do that I'm going
- 29:05straight to 25k a month and you're there
- 29:08at 4k a month re profit. We are at 25
- 29:12with upside because we can always make
- 29:14more per client. You are stuck on how
- 29:16much you make per client and you have to
- 29:17close more to make more. We make money
- 29:19from the back end. Okay.
- 29:22And the reason you're so likely to get
- 29:23disputes with the offer A, by the way,
- 29:26is that it takes longer for them to get
- 29:28an ROI. It just takes longer. So for me
- 29:30personally, why I wish I went straight
- 29:31into more performance-based offer like
- 29:34this one is like offer B. It's not so
- 29:37much the ease of closing client of
- 29:38closing clients because yes, with an
- 29:40offer like this, you will close more
- 29:42than with an offer like that. It's just
- 29:43the way it is, okay? But it's more for
- 29:46the volume of clients that come in
- 29:48because the more clients you get, the
- 29:50faster you learn and the more
- 29:52testimonials you can collect faster. And
- 29:54when you are at the beginning, that's
- 29:55gold. I'll tell you what, we didn't even
- 29:57get many testimonials for the past six,
- 30:00seven months. We got all of them at the
- 30:02beginning and then we kind of stopped
- 30:03even asking for them, which is not good.
- 30:05But what I'm saying is they are not that
- 30:08important after you have a few. But when
- 30:10you have zero, these should be your
- 30:12focus. So, a performance-based model
- 30:15like it could be that offer I showed you
- 30:16or could be the pay percentage based
- 30:18model. They will be very good for you
- 30:20because with offer A, you'd be lucky to
- 30:22get one testimonial over three months if
- 30:24you do well. With offer B, you can
- 30:25easily get three testimonials in the
- 30:27first 30 days. No doubt. All you need is
- 30:29for a client to close a 5K job from one
- 30:31of the first 10 leads you sent them. I
- 30:33literally showed you we got this guy
- 30:34five appointments in the first 10 leads
- 30:36and he closed three jobs. Don't you
- 30:38think he would leave us a testimonial?
- 30:41Like, yes, he would. So, um, if you do
- 30:44that, they'll be more than happy to
- 30:45record a testimonial for you, especially
- 30:47if you also say you throw a couple leads
- 30:48in, um, just for them for free. Now, I'm
- 30:52not saying
- 30:54there's no agency who's very successful
- 30:56with offer A. I [snorts] just showed you
- 30:58one right here. They're very successful,
- 31:00very similar offer. They're very
- 31:01successful. 300K a month revenue. Okay.
- 31:04But what I'm saying is that without
- 31:06social proof or experience, going with
- 31:08offer A will slow you down. last, you
- 31:11know, it just takes longer to get your
- 31:12feet off the ground. And do not speak
- 31:15about the margins and the backend
- 31:16revenue, but especially if you're also
- 31:18pretty new to business and you're not
- 31:20very skilled at sales or confident in
- 31:21your service and lead generation skills,
- 31:23you're putting yourself in a very high
- 31:25pressure situation when you go with
- 31:26offer A. [snorts]
- 31:28That said, this is the offer I would go
- 31:30for if I was you. This right here, paper
- 31:33lead or paper appointment model. I will
- 31:35say you can also go with paper
- 31:37percentage based but uh most here the
- 31:40offer overall is paper lead. Paper lead
- 31:42is the best one. Okay. If you are not
- 31:44confident in running leads, forget this.
- 31:47Go with paper go with the percentage
- 31:50based. Okay. Make have them put the ad
- 31:52spend. You cannot take the risk up front
- 31:54of putting ad spend because maybe you
- 31:55don't have the cash for it or you don't
- 31:57have the skill for it. So if you don't
- 31:59have that really starting from ground
- 32:01zero. I already ran ads before, so I
- 32:04already was kind of confident in it. But
- 32:06if you're not, go with p with percentage
- 32:08based. You're not going to make that
- 32:10crazy amount of money, but the amount of
- 32:11data you're going to get back to, how
- 32:13much you're going to learn, insane. So
- 32:15go with that. If not, this is the offer.
- 32:17Papayer per lead or paper appointment.
- 32:19You minimum want to get one lead um or
- 32:23appointment deposit up front that is
- 32:26non-refundable and that is in case the
- 32:27pay their payment fails at the end.
- 32:29That's what you tell them in case you
- 32:30know one day we stop working together
- 32:32and your payment fails or whatever you
- 32:34know I'm going to use that deposit that
- 32:36you give me to pay for it. It's like a
- 32:38trust whatever. So you get upfront fee
- 32:41and then you throw in an AI solution.
- 32:43This video obviously will not cover
- 32:44that. It's client acquisition here guys.
- 32:46Today is client acquisition. So that AI
- 32:49solution could be chat bots tracking
- 32:51dashboard a website SEO. Do your
- 32:53research. go to all these people who say
- 32:55they have an AI agency and see what they
- 32:57do what they offer for AI and put it in
- 32:59the back end instead of uh in in you
- 33:02know paired with selling leads and
- 33:04honestly that offer right there if you
- 33:07also have these and you're scanning a
- 33:08little bit this is what we're starting
- 33:10to do now we're actually adding these
- 33:12and we're charging 297 a month for it so
- 33:15now not only do we sell per lead have
- 33:17our paid performance but we also have a
- 33:20stable monthly recurring revenue coming
- 33:22in if you're starting out. Don't even
- 33:24try that. Just add it as a service for
- 33:26free to get more closes in in the
- 33:28future. You can think about that. So, we
- 33:31have no upfront fee pretty much because
- 33:33we only have trust deposit, no ad spend.
- 33:35The client don't have to put the ad
- 33:37spend. You put the ad spend up front.
- 33:38There's no monthly retainer because
- 33:40right now you're not charging anything
- 33:41for the AI and there's no really big
- 33:44contract like all people who do retainer
- 33:46chart, you know, they put them stuck in
- 33:48this three-month contract. You don't do
- 33:50that. And now that you have your offer,
- 33:53you need to pick your niche. For
- 33:55clarity, we can separate niches in two
- 33:57categories. Prof personal services and
- 33:59professional services.
- 34:01Personal services are home, health,
- 34:03beauty, and car services. So I'll give
- 34:06you the full subniches list in a second.
- 34:08But professional services, you can get
- 34:10an idea. They are law, insurance,
- 34:13finance, any kind of B2B that needs
- 34:15leads and clients. Uh for could be
- 34:18software, you know. So the main
- 34:20difference between these two categories
- 34:21is the barrier to entry and the scaling
- 34:23potential. It's easier to convince a
- 34:25plumber to work with you, but it's
- 34:27harder to have a plumber pay you 10k for
- 34:29your leads or service. Not just because
- 34:32not many plumbers make enough to afford
- 34:34that, but even if you start with them
- 34:36when they're smaller and you help them
- 34:38grow, they have a capacity limit and
- 34:40sometimes they don't have the drive to
- 34:42scale to those billion dollars. their or
- 34:45years their dedicate their mindset is to
- 34:48just make enough money and make a little
- 34:50more than they're making now, get a new
- 34:52car. But software companies, for
- 34:53example, finance companies, they're
- 34:55looking to make millions. So, they will
- 34:57justify a 10K expense. So, these guys,
- 35:00for example, plumbers can't take
- 35:02infinite jobs. They would need to expend
- 35:04the crew, open a new location, and so
- 35:05on. So personal services instead while
- 35:08so while personal services including
- 35:10plumbers are easier to start with
- 35:12they're harder to scale past 200 and
- 35:14300k a month and so on with there's some
- 35:18obviously uh now with professional
- 35:20services instead on the other hand most
- 35:22companies can afford to pay you 10k a
- 35:24month in leads or marketing they do that
- 35:26like that because they make so much
- 35:27money and they have almost unlimited
- 35:29scale think about insurance all they got
- 35:31to do is close more the service delivery
- 35:33has no extra uh cost or really take
- 35:38time. So, it's a lot a scaling game for
- 35:41them. It's a numbers game. The more they
- 35:42they need to put money out so they can
- 35:44get more clients in and then it's just a
- 35:46numbers game. Uh however, it's hard to
- 35:48close these people, these sort of
- 35:50businesses and especially if you have no
- 35:52social proof. Now, a very logical
- 35:53transition which I honestly can't see
- 35:55myself doing, I do can see myself doing
- 35:58in the next two to five years is scale
- 36:00this agency in the personal services
- 36:01niche first. So ours is for residential
- 36:04contractors. We scale that to I don't
- 36:07know 100 200k a month and then we use
- 36:10that social proof and experience to
- 36:12pivot into professional service where we
- 36:13can easily scale to a million dollars a
- 36:15month. [snorts]
- 36:17So if you're watching this video,
- 36:18however, I assume you're not making uh
- 36:20100k a month. So I'm going to focus on
- 36:23personal service niches. Here's a few
- 36:25that you can pick between and all of
- 36:27their subniches. We have solar window
- 36:30and doors, garage doors, fencing, decks
- 36:32and patios, pool installation, basement
- 36:35waterproofing, boulder remediation, um
- 36:38water damage restoration, pest control,
- 36:40flooring, painting, electrical,
- 36:41plumbing, septic services, gutters,
- 36:44garage storage, organization. Honestly,
- 36:46this one is not that great. Home
- 36:49security systems is good. Bathroom
- 36:50remodeling and obviously also kitchen.
- 36:54bathroom and
- 36:57kitchen,
- 36:59edu and home additions. All of these are
- 37:01all proven to work and good for the home
- 37:04service for the home area for the home
- 37:06niche. Okay. For uh health, we have
- 37:09dental implants, cosmetic dentistry,
- 37:12invisalign, chiropractors, physical
- 37:14therapy, weight loss, hormone therapy
- 37:16clinic. Nowadays, we already know we're
- 37:19going to have peptides in there. uh you
- 37:22know I don't know clinic or product TRT
- 37:25clinics
- 37:29um I guess that's what it is hormone
- 37:31therapy clinics it would be TRT but IV
- 37:33therapy clinics dermatology uh vision
- 37:35correction hearing aids podiatry
- 37:37fertility clinics peptides and TRT
- 37:40beauty we have med spas barbers hair
- 37:43salons laser hair removal botox
- 37:45permanent makeup micro blading lash
- 37:48extensions body contouring tattoo
- 37:50removal skin clinics, bridal hair and
- 37:53makeup and nail salons. And for car,
- 37:55we've got car detailing, ceric coating,
- 37:58paint protection film, window tinting,
- 38:00car wraps, paintless dent repair,
- 38:02collision repair, autoglass windshield
- 38:04repair, mobile mechanics, auto repair
- 38:06shops, transmission repair, tire shops,
- 38:09car washes, used car dealerships, and
- 38:11performance unit. All of these people,
- 38:13all of them, they all need leads. All of
- 38:16them from the first one to the last one.
- 38:17Every business you can think of, they
- 38:19need leads. And these are the main
- 38:20subniches you can target. Now you should
- 38:23pick a niche that you have an
- 38:24inclination or an interest towards.
- 38:26That's the niche is going to be easier
- 38:27for you to understand.
- 38:30And if you understand the niche, you can
- 38:32sell to the niche easier. You can market
- 38:34to the niche much better and be more
- 38:37much more relatable to them.
- 38:41Now, if you're not sure, I would uh
- 38:43recommend obviously to research each
- 38:45subniche one by one until something
- 38:48catches your eyes or you feel something
- 38:50and just feels right. It feels like this
- 38:52niche right here is in the sweet spot.
- 38:54That's how it was for me with
- 38:55residential contractors. Honestly, I
- 38:57didn't do that much research. I didn't I
- 39:00just when you know when I heard about
- 39:02it, I was like, "Yeah, it just feels
- 39:04right. High ticket. It just feels like
- 39:06the right thing. It just makes sense to
- 39:08me. that's who I want to sell to. And
- 39:10it's probably one of the hardest niches
- 39:11I could have picked because I still am
- 39:13obviously Italian, but I was even
- 39:15younger. I was more than a year younger
- 39:17than now. And I already now I still now
- 39:18look young. I'm almost 22 and I look 18.
- 39:21Okay. So, with an Italian accent on top
- 39:24of that. So, and I'm selling to these
- 39:26guys who who are 40, 50 years old and
- 39:30they work construction their whole life
- 39:32and they look at me and they want and I
- 39:34want them to pay me thousands of dollars
- 39:36a month. Okay. It's very hard especially
- 39:38when I'm not living in the US. So if I
- 39:40did that with that niche just because it
- 39:42felt right, I'm sure you can do it as
- 39:43well with every niche because the truth
- 39:44is every niche works. If there's at
- 39:46least one agency, this is a rule. If
- 39:49there's at least one agency making
- 39:50$100,000 a month in the niche, you can
- 39:52too. If there's nobody making at least
- 39:54$1,000 a month in the niche, it means
- 39:56there's not enough demand and it doesn't
- 39:59work for this model. It's that simple.
- 40:01Whatever you do, don't be afraid of a
- 40:02saturated niche. I rather much rather be
- 40:04afraid of a um
- 40:09empty niche of a blue ocean than being
- 40:13afraid of a saturated niche because
- 40:14saturation is only the indication and
- 40:17there's a lot of money in the niche, a
- 40:18lot of opportunity for better than the
- 40:21rest. That simple. As a beginner, like I
- 40:24said, I'd much rather be in a Saturday
- 40:26niche than a blue ocean, not knowing if
- 40:28there's speech in that ocean. So, pick
- 40:30your niche and once you do, do your own
- 40:31research in the niche. Dig deep, deep,
- 40:34deep into everything. And next, we're
- 40:36going to talk about setup fees and lead
- 40:38packages
- 40:40because I already know what you're
- 40:41thinking about.
- 40:43If the goal is to get as many clients as
- 40:44possible so I can learn as fast as
- 40:46possible and get testimonials faster,
- 40:49shouldn't I just charge nothing up
- 40:50front? Why would you even want to charge
- 40:52for the little upfront deposit? Okay,
- 40:55that is a good point. It truly is. and
- 40:57he convinced me personally for a long
- 41:00time and I've fallen for it. Here's how
- 41:01much we spent only on ads. That doesn't
- 41:04include all the other acquisition
- 41:06systems. Only on ads between January and
- 41:09May 2026 to get some clients. It's not
- 41:12that much to be honest. It's not much if
- 41:14you think about it. $3,000. And the
- 41:17reason we weren't able to spend more is
- 41:19that we were not charging money up
- 41:20front. We were turning no money up
- 41:22front. It was and that was just
- 41:23unsustainable. meaning that was a full
- 41:26expense instantly. We lost 3.4K right
- 41:29away in the hope of making that money
- 41:31back with leads. But we just were too uh
- 41:35naive cuz you know there was no ROS in
- 41:38the in the front end. We weren't even
- 41:40charging a lead deposit. We just wanted
- 41:42to get people in because we knew that
- 41:43the money was in the leads. I still
- 41:45believe the money is in the leads.
- 41:46However, here's where we were naive. We
- 41:49didn't know that charging nothing up
- 41:51front attracted guess who bad clients.
- 41:55And it repelled the good ones. Because
- 41:58every business owner making over a
- 41:59million dollars a year with their
- 42:01business doesn't expect for your service
- 42:03to be free. They understand that things
- 42:05cost money, time, people, and they
- 42:08expect a fee to get started. And if you
- 42:10don't have it, they won't take you
- 42:12seriously. And the truth is if other
- 42:13companies service or agencies in your in
- 42:17your same niche have scaled with a setup
- 42:20fee, you can do the same too. Sure, you
- 42:23want to be different. You want to be
- 42:24better, but it doesn't mean that
- 42:26charging a fee up front is wrong or
- 42:28doesn't work. It just means you're not
- 42:29good enough at selling it or you're not
- 42:31good enough at marketing it. because
- 42:34Angie
- 42:36charges a monthly fee to be part of
- 42:38their program and a setup fee and a
- 42:40yearly fee and or depends which package
- 42:43you go with. So if they did it, why can
- 42:45we not charge a setup fee and still get
- 42:48millions of dollars worth of clients? We
- 42:50can't. It's all in the mind. It's a
- 42:51limiting belief. So you need to see the
- 42:53data. You need to see the data in front
- 42:55of your eyes. You need to see that it's
- 42:57actually possible and there's people
- 42:58doing it in your same niche so you can
- 43:00break off that
- 43:03you know illusion that setup fees don't
- 43:06work or it's cost too you know it's too
- 43:08expensive they nobody would ever pay
- 43:10this they do pay it all every day all
- 43:12the time so just find whatever data you
- 43:15need to find to convince yourself of
- 43:16that and I actually like to argue that
- 43:19our close rate was lower with a setup
- 43:21fee than with a setup fee like without
- 43:23than with now how much you should charge
- 43:26really depends, but at get started with
- 43:28a simple lead deposit fee like I said.
- 43:31So, pretty much just a set fee worth the
- 43:33equivalent of one lead or appointment
- 43:34depending on which model you're in. And
- 43:37that's because it's very easy to
- 43:38justify. Okay, you can just say in case
- 43:40something goes wrong, in case you don't
- 43:42pay, your car declines, we're just going
- 43:43to use that. And then if you're closing
- 43:46a lot and are comfortable in your
- 43:47service delivery and closing skills, I
- 43:49would just up it to $200 and go from
- 43:51there. For us, we charge anywhere
- 43:53between $200 and $800 up front,
- 43:55depending on the type of person we're
- 43:57talking to. So, I promise you there's
- 43:59many people will be willing to pay that.
- 44:01Now, you might ask, what about charging
- 44:03for 10 to 20 lead packages up front
- 44:05instead of the setup fee? There's other
- 44:06guys in the lead generation, especially
- 44:08in lead generation niche, uh, not AI
- 44:10lead, just AI, just lead generation
- 44:12without AI, and they charge big
- 44:15packages. Okay? And what I can say with
- 44:17that is that it's a tricky thing. Uh
- 44:19it's a great it's great on paper because
- 44:21you see these people closing deals for
- 44:23three $4,000 uh and the truth is you get
- 44:26all the money for the leads up front but
- 44:28then it hits you when you have to
- 44:30actually get leads for the clients. Uh I
- 44:32think it's normalized for nationwide
- 44:34businesses like insurance companies
- 44:35where the service area does not impact
- 44:38co cost per lead. So if I add an agency
- 44:40in the insurance niche, I would want the
- 44:43lead package up front because I already
- 44:44know nationwide what it costs me to get
- 44:47a lead. So it's very predictable. While
- 44:49when it comes to local businesses, I
- 44:52think it's a very danger dangerous model
- 44:54to run. You can really get [ __ ] Uh
- 44:56it's happened to us a couple times that
- 44:58we charge for a lead a lead package and
- 45:00then either because of the area um or
- 45:03the CPL was ra rising out of nowhere. U
- 45:06either way, we'd end up having to pause
- 45:08the campaigns, clients asking where
- 45:10leads are and we just end up barely
- 45:13breaking even on the campaigns and it
- 45:14was a pain in the ass. That's what it
- 45:16was. So, we do not charge uh lead
- 45:18package anymore. And if we do, nothing
- 45:20above five leads with new clients,
- 45:23especially in areas that we've never
- 45:24worked with, especially in areas that
- 45:26we've never run ads in before because we
- 45:28you never know what the area is like and
- 45:31not also not so big because ad fatigue
- 45:34is a thing and espec especially locally.
- 45:38So, after a while, you'll see the cost
- 45:40per lead in that area after you know,
- 45:42we've seen it with clients who are
- 45:43spending 30k with us. the cost per lead
- 45:45in the area just keeps going up after a
- 45:47while because
- 45:48yeah there's main the top of the market
- 45:51people who are in a more ready to buy
- 45:53mode and more qualified just are already
- 45:55became a lead and so now there's less
- 45:57people and yes they will regenerate
- 45:59themselves but if you're spending more
- 46:00than the amount of leads that they are
- 46:02if you're spending more than demand then
- 46:04the cost per lead will go up. Um, so,
- 46:08uh, especially also if you're not good
- 46:09with money, you know, you might think
- 46:10that you're so rich and you make so much
- 46:12money, you think you cash collected 8K
- 46:14this month, 8K profit, and then you got
- 46:16to pay that 50% of that at least to get
- 46:19the leads. Now, we instead don't do any
- 46:22of this. We charge we automatically
- 46:24charge the clients manually on Stripe at
- 46:27the end of each business day and that's
- 46:28been working great for us. So, for now,
- 46:30all you need to worry about is getting
- 46:32clients in. Don't worry about the lead
- 46:34package and this kind of stuff. And in
- 46:36order to do that, once you decide what
- 46:39niche and offer to go for, it's time to
- 46:41set up your funnels and your sales
- 46:42assets. So, if all of this is clear,
- 46:45let's get straight into that. Never
- 46:47mind. Change of plans. Once you pick
- 46:48your niche, before you create any sales
- 46:50assets and you start looking for
- 46:52clients, you need to fully understand
- 46:53the people you're targeting. So, do not
- 46:56start writing anything before you do
- 46:58this. The you literally get your ICP
- 47:00template and research done. So, you need
- 47:02to know what time do they wake up, what
- 47:04car do they drive, what's their morning
- 47:06routine, what hours do they work, what
- 47:08type of work do they do, literally
- 47:09anything you can think of. It took me
- 47:11over a year to fully understand my
- 47:12niche, the residential construction
- 47:14niche. And truthfully, only way to fully
- 47:16learn the niche and really only when I
- 47:18learned it, unless you already are in
- 47:20that niche or were in the niche, like
- 47:21working directly, is to speak with
- 47:23hundreds of these businesses and work
- 47:25with dozens of them. Now, the good news
- 47:27is that AI makes collecting the info so
- 47:29much faster and easier than it used to
- 47:31be. So, um, that's going to be good, but
- 47:33it doesn't replace the work you need to
- 47:34put to actually understand the niche.
- 47:36Having the information is easy.
- 47:38Understanding the information is the
- 47:40hard part. And so, the best thing you
- 47:41can do is create your own uh ICP
- 47:44research doc so both you and AI can use
- 47:47that as context to create everything
- 47:49that you're going to do next. Here's a
- 47:50template that you can follow. I put it
- 47:52here. Uh, you can go through on your own
- 47:55time later. down here you should find a
- 47:57link to have this document this whole
- 47:58thing so you can study it all completely
- 48:01for free. Uh maybe I'll ask you for your
- 48:03email. I'm not sure. I haven't decided
- 48:05yet. Uh but either way it's going to be
- 48:07free. Uh all you have to do once you
- 48:09have this template is paste it into shpd
- 48:11or claude and have them fill it out. And
- 48:13then I still 100% recommend doing some
- 48:16manual research. Uh I have a video on
- 48:18this channel where I do it live if
- 48:20you're interested and how to do it and
- 48:21the psychology behind it. So do that. Uh
- 48:25just look on my channel for market
- 48:26research. It's a pretty big video pretty
- 48:28also a lot of views so you should find
- 48:30it and follow this rule. Do not write
- 48:33anything before doing research. Number
- 48:35one copriting rule that difference
- 48:37between great sales material and sales
- 48:40assets and terrible ones. So don't skip
- 48:43this part. And now we can actually get
- 48:44into the sales funnel. So drink
- 48:49like I said this is going to be very
- 48:51value dance. We're only here. Okay.
- 48:53there's still a lot to go and a lot of
- 48:55sauce. So, it's it's big. So, if you
- 48:58need a break or if you need to let all
- 49:00of that sink in, you know, take that now
- 49:02before we get into the sales funnel and,
- 49:05you know, take five minutes, go for a
- 49:06walk, get a get something to drink. It's
- 49:09been almost 40, it's been 40 minutes or
- 49:11something. So, do that and then let's
- 49:13get into this. So, regardless of the
- 49:15niche, offer, or client acquisition
- 49:16vehicle, system, whatever you want to
- 49:18call it that you pick, you need to set
- 49:20up your own salesunnel. It's important.
- 49:22And here's everything that you need to
- 49:23have in place before you start getting
- 49:26clients. First of all, your CRM,
- 49:29calendar, booking page, confirmation
- 49:31page, email confirmation and reminders,
- 49:33and text sequence. We've moved through
- 49:36this section very fast. So don't worry
- 49:38about it. Uh so and most of the things
- 49:39you can literally just copy and paste
- 49:41them. Um so we can then move into actual
- 49:44getting clients, client acquisition much
- 49:46faster. Uh any know how here is really a
- 49:49twominut YouTube search or Google search
- 49:51away. So I'm not going to get too deep
- 49:54into the information because it's very
- 49:55easy stuff copy paste. What matters is
- 49:58the strategy behind it. So first thing
- 49:59in the CRM I use go high level. It's a
- 50:02no-brainer. Uh I don't know any agency
- 50:04who's using a different one. Uh all you
- 50:06need if you're starting out is the $97 a
- 50:08month plan. Nothing more than that. And
- 50:10by the way, I'm not selling anything,
- 50:11but I am giving a free 30inut uh 101
- 50:15coaching call to the first 100 people
- 50:17who sign up to the go ahead level free
- 50:19trial with my link down here in the
- 50:21description. You can if you have the
- 50:22doc, you can just click on it right
- 50:23here. Uh so sign up with that and to the
- 50:26first 100 people, I will just speak to
- 50:28you oneonone face to face on discord and
- 50:31um give you some extra value. You can
- 50:33ask me any questions you want. Honestly,
- 50:35that's the only way to ask me questions.
- 50:36My profile is private on Instagram. So,
- 50:39if you really think uh I know what I'm
- 50:41talking about and you'd like some help,
- 50:43sign up through there. If you don't have
- 50:44[ __ ] level yet or upgrade your
- 50:46subscription if you already have it and
- 50:48yeah, it will redirect you to a private
- 50:50Discord community where you can chat
- 50:51with me and my business partner every
- 50:53day. So, not just the call but also that
- 50:55and then you'll be able to pick the time
- 50:57to talk to me. That simple. If you don't
- 50:58want the extra value, you don't have to
- 51:00sign up with me. I'm not forcing you and
- 51:02honestly don't care. Just sign up on
- 51:04your own cuz you'll need it anyways. GHL
- 51:06is just what you need for this agency.
- 51:08If you want to have an agency overall in
- 51:10life, calendar, all you need to is one
- 51:12calendar for the sales call. This is how
- 51:14I set up mine. 30 minute uh meetings uh
- 51:17duration 30 minutes. Uh two uh
- 51:20scheduling notice is 2 hours. Date
- 51:22range, no more than 3 days. If they book
- 51:255 days in advance, they're not going to
- 51:26show up. You don't want that. Uh and
- 51:29then maximum bookings per slot two. In
- 51:31the um redirect settings, we want to
- 51:34make sure that we redirect anyone who
- 51:37books to the confirmation page once we
- 51:38build it in a second. And for the
- 51:40qualification questions, this is what we
- 51:42ask company. Oh, on top of the name,
- 51:45email and phone number, we ask company
- 51:47name, size of the business, and if their
- 51:49company have a sales center, a call
- 51:51center, sales people or appointment
- 51:52centers. Next, booking page. This is the
- 51:55page that we'll send traffic to whenever
- 51:58people want to book a call with us
- 51:59directly. Regardless of the position
- 52:01channel you decide to use, you need to
- 52:03set up a page like this. Uh the booking
- 52:05page structure is actually super super
- 52:07simple. They have a niche call out
- 52:09headline, sub headline, call to action
- 52:11and incentive calendar process breakdown
- 52:15and the social proof. These two are
- 52:17optional. You know, if you don't are not
- 52:18so sure, if you don't have any social
- 52:20proof, and if you're not so sure what
- 52:22the process looks like yet for yourself,
- 52:24you can also skip this, but I'm going to
- 52:25show you what um mine looks like.
- 52:29Okay, so here you're going to have the
- 52:30logo niche call out. Uh so that's going
- 52:33to be for example for residential
- 52:35contractors for you want to be a little
- 52:37more specific. You're targeting specific
- 52:39subniches. So um that's one other thing.
- 52:42Do not go into overall for health
- 52:44professionals. No, for chiropractors
- 52:48only pay for qualified estimate
- 52:49appointment we book for you. This is
- 52:51obviously for residential contractors.
- 52:53You know, dentists don't have estimate
- 52:55appointments. Then all like I said here,
- 52:59uh call to action in uh sub headline
- 53:02here. We can use um non-statements. I'll
- 53:05show you a couple of templates in a
- 53:06second. And then book a time below. Call
- 53:09to action. See if your era qualifies for
- 53:12special offer. That is the incentive I
- 53:14was talking about. Uh here's the
- 53:16calendar. Like I said, next this is an
- 53:18example, but here's the form we use in
- 53:20it. Go level. And uh that's pretty much
- 53:22it. That's pretty much it. So, uh you
- 53:25can build this probably in 10 minutes.
- 53:27Um what takes the most time definitely
- 53:29is the headline. You know, writing a
- 53:31good headline. Here's a couple
- 53:32frameworks that worked well for me in
- 53:34the best for the headline and are proven
- 53:35to work. ICP call out. So steel for
- 53:38example if you are a uh this is for
- 53:41example four dentists offer or the
- 53:45promise that you're whatever it is. So
- 53:48I'll get you I put the money into ads
- 53:50get you the leads you only pay $70 per
- 53:53lead. That is your offer or promise or I
- 53:55will increase your close rates by 30% in
- 53:57the next three days. Or my what was my
- 54:00promise at the beginning of this video?
- 54:01I'll show you everything you need to
- 54:03know to start your agency and um start
- 54:07within and to get your first client in
- 54:09under three days. That is the offer or
- 54:11promise. And then non statements or
- 54:13social proof. That's what these are what
- 54:14known statements are. So not things that
- 54:17they either don't like or they've tried
- 54:19in the past or thing other alternatives
- 54:22that they they don't want. Okay. So no
- 54:25setup fees, no ad spend, no retainers.
- 54:29These are our loan statements which make
- 54:31these look better. It's usually a
- 54:33logical a logical continuation of um
- 54:39the
- 54:40offer. So you said you imagine you're
- 54:43telling them the offer the promise and
- 54:45what is the first objection that comes
- 54:47to mind? What is the first thing that
- 54:49comes to mind? Oh but no this. Oh but
- 54:50about this? Oh but about that? All those
- 54:52things you want to say you don't have
- 54:53them. So no this, no that. No whatever.
- 54:56All those things that logically come to
- 54:57mind right after they hear your promise.
- 55:00Some copyrightiting there for you. Next
- 55:02one. Still call out at the top. We'll
- 55:05get you desire in desirable time frame
- 55:08or your money back or I buy your agency
- 55:12or I
- 55:15get naked whatever the risk reversal is.
- 55:18Uh so and then down there you still want
- 55:21to have non statements. If you don't
- 55:22want to use non statements and you have
- 55:23very good social proof, you can also do
- 55:25that. So, what that would look like is
- 55:27um 3,000 lead generated leads generated
- 55:31for contractors just like you. I could
- 55:33put that down here at the bottom and um
- 55:36it would uh it would do good. It would
- 55:38still work. Uh if you sign up to go
- 55:40level through my link and are in my
- 55:42Discord community, by the way, just send
- 55:43me your funnel. I can help you with a
- 55:44copy myself. Now, for confirmation page,
- 55:48ironically, the confirmation page is
- 55:49more important than the booking page.
- 55:51It's the first and most important step
- 55:53in your shop system.
- 55:57So, it's important you get it right or
- 55:58you're not going to get anyone to shop
- 55:59at your calls, even if you book calls.
- 56:02And these are the elements you want to
- 56:03have eventually in your confirmation
- 56:06page as you scale. You might not have
- 56:07all of them today, but over time, just
- 56:09start building them up. Confirmation
- 56:11video, due digence video, breakout
- 56:14videos, and social proof. Here's what my
- 56:16confirmation page looks like.
- 56:21Your call is not confirmed. Do your due
- 56:23diligence. How do I know this is not all
- 56:25BS? I don't have the confirmation. I
- 56:27don't have a confirmation video. I just
- 56:29went straight into a um due diligence
- 56:32video. Let me see if it lets me play.
- 56:33>> How do you know that everything
- 56:35>> Okay, so due diligence video is simply
- 56:38going over your payment processor
- 56:40showing that um you're making money and
- 56:45you have so many transactions and you
- 56:46have so little disputes. And if you have
- 56:48any disputes or if you have any refunds,
- 56:50just break those refunds down, explain
- 56:52what happened to build more proof. That
- 56:54is what a due diligence video is. If you
- 56:57want to learn more on shop systems, I
- 57:00would definitely recommend checking out
- 57:02Jeremy Hayes. You know, I can't avoid
- 57:04but putting you on sauce and giving you
- 57:06value even if it's not for me. That is
- 57:08super valuable. So, not that video
- 57:10specifically, but he has video on the
- 57:11shop systems and the confirmation page
- 57:13back best practices. Check him out. He's
- 57:16the goat when it comes to this. So, um,
- 57:19like I said in the video, we have due
- 57:22diligence video, confirmation video,
- 57:23what's on your mind. These are all going
- 57:25to be breakout videos. So, what these do
- 57:26is they answer one specific question
- 57:28that the client might have right now.
- 57:31Kills objections and all that kind of
- 57:32stuff where you find material and ideas
- 57:35for these objections. Just look at your
- 57:37ICP research stock. If you've done it
- 57:39correctly, you're going to have a
- 57:40section with objections. So, you can
- 57:42just take those and turn them into
- 57:44two-minute videos. Literally easy ass
- 57:46videos like this. 2 minutes long.
- 57:48>> How much do we charge per lead? Great.
- 57:50>> And we just get into it. Raw videos.
- 57:52Easy or lose. Uh I had the option to
- 57:55send us a message if they want. We have
- 57:57some people do that. And then we have
- 57:58our testimonials down here. That simple.
- 58:01Okay. And again, maybe you don't have
- 58:03all of this today, but you can start
- 58:05building it over time. So maybe you
- 58:07don't have that much social proof or a
- 58:09lot to show in your due diligence
- 58:11because you don't have 500 transactions
- 58:13like we do. Well, all that means is you
- 58:15need to double down on breakout videos
- 58:17and build more trust. That simple. An
- 58:20easy way to come up with breakout
- 58:21videos, like I said, check out your ICP
- 58:23talk and keep them between two and 5
- 58:24minutes long, raw video, simple loom.
- 58:27Um, one thing about the confirmation
- 58:30video uh that you want is if you're
- 58:33doing it, make sure that you mention uh
- 58:35that they need to check their email and
- 58:38confirm uh their appointment with you.
- 58:41In fact, what we say here at the top is
- 58:42your call is not confirmed. Then here in
- 58:44your confir here, you're going to say
- 58:46they need to check their email to
- 58:48confirm the appointment. Uh here, in
- 58:50fact, a confirmation video script that
- 58:52you can take inspiration from. We had it
- 58:54in the we had it uh in our agency
- 58:56before. Uh I'm not going to read it
- 58:58because you can get on your own. It's um
- 59:01very very simple. Thank you for booking
- 59:02a call with us. Reply yes. So I know you
- 59:04got everything. We're good to go. And
- 59:05then we just go into you know exactly
- 59:08what happens next. what we do on the
- 59:09call, the goal of the call, simple stuff
- 59:12like that. Uh what the breakout videos
- 59:15cover, so we tell them to watch them.
- 59:17Super super simple. Check this later.
- 59:19Number five, we want to have email
- 59:21confirmations and reminders.
- 59:23So once you're done with your pages and
- 59:25funnel on go high level, you want to set
- 59:27up a very simple email confirmation
- 59:29reminder workflow. And that triggers any
- 59:31time someone books a call on your
- 59:33calendar. This is what our confirmation
- 59:35email looks like. You confirm your AI
- 59:38demo call. Hey, contact first name. Your
- 59:40demo call has been booked for this day
- 59:43and add this link. Before the call,
- 59:45please watch this form video. These VDs
- 59:48will send them to the info page, the
- 59:51confirmation page. I'll show you exact
- 59:54it will show you exactly what to expect
- 59:55on the call and help you determine
- 59:56whether our AI lead system is a fit for
- 59:58your business. One quick favor, reply to
- 1:00:00this email with yes so I know you've
- 1:00:02received the meeting details. Looking
- 1:00:03forward to speaking with you, Matina.
- 1:00:06Simple. Then a 4 hour reminder via
- 1:00:08email.
- 1:00:11Quick note. That's the subject line.
- 1:00:14Hey, first name. Looking forward to
- 1:00:15speaking to you today at appointment
- 1:00:17time. Before jumping on, take a second
- 1:00:18to think about this. What service area
- 1:00:20would like us to target? And here you
- 1:00:22have three questions that um just, you
- 1:00:25know, just so you don't send just a hey,
- 1:00:27just reminding you of the time, but you
- 1:00:29actually try to get more information out
- 1:00:30of them and to think about the call and
- 1:00:33actually see how serious the call is. Uh
- 1:00:35the more client you have going in, the
- 1:00:36more straightforward and useful the call
- 1:00:38will be. Talk soon, your name signature.
- 1:00:41That's all you need to get started
- 1:00:43honestly. And as long as you start
- 1:00:45getting more calls booked and you can
- 1:00:46see people are actually opening your
- 1:00:47emails, you should set up a simple email
- 1:00:49sequence that provides them more trust
- 1:00:51and builds trust, you know, provides
- 1:00:53more value and builds trust. All you
- 1:00:54have to do is take one of your breakout
- 1:00:56videos, put them on a separate page, and
- 1:00:58then write a brief email redirecting
- 1:01:00people to the image to that video. Okay?
- 1:01:02shop some page like this
- 1:01:06logo. How does the demo code work? And
- 1:01:08let's just uh simple as
- 1:01:12>> another question we get pretty often is
- 1:01:14how does the code work? What
- 1:01:16>> easy just like that and if they click
- 1:01:17this button they will be redirected back
- 1:01:19to the
- 1:01:22what is it to the confirmation page so
- 1:01:24they they can watch the remaining uh
- 1:01:26breakout videos. Um okay now text
- 1:01:30sequence. The text sequence is far more
- 1:01:33important than the email sequence
- 1:01:34actually. But if you're starting your
- 1:01:36agency today and you don't have a go
- 1:01:37level account or a company setup, you're
- 1:01:40not going to it's not going to be that
- 1:01:42easy for you to get a text number. So
- 1:01:44you have to go through an application
- 1:01:45process. You can look it up online. A2P
- 1:01:48number registration on go high level. Uh
- 1:01:51so if you don't have a number, send more
- 1:01:53reminders via email more than just 24
- 1:01:55hours and four. Um send more. But if you
- 1:02:00have text, that's what we use. So after
- 1:02:022 minutes of them coming in, we we send,
- 1:02:04"Hey, first name, it's Matia from
- 1:02:06company. Just want just saw you booked
- 1:02:08the time uh to talk about our paper
- 1:02:11estimate offer." Then you wait 6 seconds
- 1:02:14and you say, "Is this the right number?"
- 1:02:16So they will see this in a very natural
- 1:02:18way and they'll think it's actually you.
- 1:02:21Then 24 hours before the call, hey,
- 1:02:23first name, looking forward to speaking
- 1:02:24tomorrow. three hours before the call.
- 1:02:27Hey, we're still good to talk at time
- 1:02:29today, right? 15 minutes before the
- 1:02:31call, ready to jump on the meeting in 15
- 1:02:33minutes. Do you have a link to join and
- 1:02:35everything? 1 minute before the call,
- 1:02:37joining now. If we don't get a response
- 1:02:39here within 30 minutes to an hour, we
- 1:02:41call them. And if we they don't answer,
- 1:02:43we keep calling them because we want
- 1:02:45them to show up. Make sure to download
- 1:02:47the app version of Joy of [ __ ] level,
- 1:02:49which is lib connector. That way, you
- 1:02:50have notifications on and you can see as
- 1:02:52soon as someone answers. But what about
- 1:02:54the VSSL? I have some of you asking me
- 1:02:57also because I have a video about VSSLs
- 1:02:59in this channel too. And something that
- 1:03:01I learned recently actually is that the
- 1:03:03point of VSSL is to build trust. You
- 1:03:06hope that by watching the extra 7 to 10
- 1:03:08minutes of information, the customer
- 1:03:10will trust you more, like you better,
- 1:03:11and have less objections. That's the
- 1:03:13whole point. And the truth is that we've
- 1:03:16had a BSL before in our funnel and it
- 1:03:18did well, but only through paid ads like
- 1:03:21we're you're about to learn very soon.
- 1:03:23We also achieved equally good results
- 1:03:24via paid ads without the VSSL. And
- 1:03:26because every acquisition channel
- 1:03:28doesn't require VSSL to work, I wouldn't
- 1:03:30make it an important vital step for you
- 1:03:33to focus on right now. You really don't
- 1:03:35need it to start. Right now, we running
- 1:03:36ads. Uh we were running ads last week.
- 1:03:39Um and we did not have a VSSL and we
- 1:03:43still got those numbers. So, you don't
- 1:03:44need it. At least not right now. Okay.
- 1:03:47Also, considering that you're very
- 1:03:48unlikely to go straight into paid ads
- 1:03:50for reasons that I'm going to show you
- 1:03:51in a second, you're probably not going
- 1:03:53to use it. Uh, so how we how do we build
- 1:03:56that trust without the BSL to make sure
- 1:03:59people that we want to close like us and
- 1:04:01trust us more before the sales call?
- 1:04:03Because that's honestly very important.
- 1:04:04We want to do most of the selling. The
- 1:04:06best companies do most of the selling
- 1:04:08before the sales call. And the sales
- 1:04:10call becomes a collecting call where
- 1:04:12they just pay. It's like a register.
- 1:04:14That's the goal. And there's two ways we
- 1:04:16can do that. better appointment setting.
- 1:04:18So, discovery call um asking their, you
- 1:04:23know, discovering their pain, asking
- 1:04:25them questions, probing questions,
- 1:04:27really discovering really what pains
- 1:04:31they have while we appointment set them
- 1:04:34so they can trust us better, be more
- 1:04:35relatable, feel like we understand them.
- 1:04:38And then content, they need to see and
- 1:04:39watch content from you, which are both
- 1:04:41covered in the next section. So,
- 1:04:45let's move straight into it. Cl
- 1:04:46acquisition. Oh my gosh, I'm excited for
- 1:04:48this. I am excited for this. Actually,
- 1:04:50let me sip my tea. I'm so excited. I
- 1:04:51have to sip it.
- 1:04:55[sighs]
- 1:04:57Boys, the biggest regret I have in my
- 1:05:01agency is how long it took us to realize
- 1:05:04the importance of client acquisition,
- 1:05:06consistent client acquisition. These, as
- 1:05:09you can see, are some of the numbers
- 1:05:10from some a little screenshot from the
- 1:05:13big sheet that I have of clients that we
- 1:05:15closed. And look, between August 25,
- 1:05:1825th and October 30th, we closed what?
- 1:05:223, 6, 9, 12, 13 clients in two months.
- 1:05:30That is not enough. That is not good.
- 1:05:32That is not consistent. You can see here
- 1:05:34three days. We have we have we closed
- 1:05:36four in three days. And then two and a
- 1:05:39half weeks without nothing. Then we
- 1:05:41close then we close one. Then three in
- 1:05:44two days
- 1:05:46and then boom another week goes by
- 1:05:48nothing. And then and then three weeks
- 1:05:50go by and we close two in one day. Like
- 1:05:52it was not consistent. It was just not
- 1:05:54consistent. And it was the biggest
- 1:05:55regrets that I have. We would go on a
- 1:05:57one to two week streak where we would
- 1:05:59focus a lot on acquisition, get some
- 1:06:00clients in and then totally stop for two
- 1:06:04weeks. And that's for three reasons.
- 1:06:06That's here's why we were stopping. Not
- 1:06:08because we were stupid or something, but
- 1:06:10we just were getting the wrong people on
- 1:06:12like we spoke about at the beginning of
- 1:06:13the video when we talk about the model.
- 1:06:15The heat rate on a good client with size
- 1:06:19and money to spend was very low. So, we
- 1:06:21were spending time and money to acquire
- 1:06:22clients that would never actually give
- 1:06:24us an ROI. And second, our acquisition
- 1:06:26system was not scheduled. We would run
- 1:06:28out of people to reach out to because we
- 1:06:29were really only using SMS. As you'll
- 1:06:32see, when we were really scaling at the
- 1:06:34beginning, we couldn't find an
- 1:06:35appointment center who performed and the
- 1:06:37ad campaigns would stop performing after
- 1:06:39a few days. I would say a few weeks,
- 1:06:41okay, we run a campaign for a couple
- 1:06:43weeks and then ad fatigue would hit and
- 1:06:44we couldn't recover. So, [clears throat]
- 1:06:47it was our fault at the end of the day,
- 1:06:49but we just didn't have a consistent
- 1:06:51acquisition system. Now, we do have at
- 1:06:54this point a more scalable acquisition
- 1:06:56system, more consistent, and we're
- 1:06:58consistently acquiring new clients with
- 1:07:00new money to spend every single week.
- 1:07:02So, in this section, I'll go through
- 1:07:04everything. We try to get clients, what
- 1:07:06worked, what didn't, and what you should
- 1:07:08do at any stage of your agency because
- 1:07:09all of these come into play at different
- 1:07:12stages. So, you don't want to skip any
- 1:07:14of them. Until last week, considering
- 1:07:16ads alone, it cost us about $40 to $45
- 1:07:18to book a call. That's only on ads.
- 1:07:21you'll see things changed. Uh I'll tell
- 1:07:24you in the paid ads module, we're not
- 1:07:26really running ads at this moment. And
- 1:07:29on those we have a 50% show rate, 20%
- 1:07:32close rate, and a 101 return on front
- 1:07:34end. So we spend down dollar and we get
- 1:07:36$1 back. But then that's before selling
- 1:07:40any leads and appointments. And that's
- 1:07:41where we have a 50% margins. So I
- 1:07:43consider that very good. We're closing
- 1:07:45one to two clients per week and we can
- 1:07:47still scale. Now we switch things up a
- 1:07:50little bit. So, as I go through the
- 1:07:51model, I'll explain better. But it took
- 1:07:53us 15 months to get to this point. And
- 1:07:55I'll tell you everything you need to
- 1:07:56know to get your first new client, your
- 1:07:58first or a new client in your agency in
- 1:08:00the next 3 days ideally. I really think
- 1:08:02you can do it in 72 hours following
- 1:08:05depending on which one of these you
- 1:08:06follow. Now, there's five main
- 1:08:08acquisition systems or channels that you
- 1:08:10should consider. We have cold calling,
- 1:08:12mass DM, cold email, ads, content. We
- 1:08:15tried all of them and
- 1:08:19all of them work. Trust me, all of them
- 1:08:21work. Don't believe anyone who tells you
- 1:08:22the opposite. Everything works. There's
- 1:08:24companies who make millions of dollars a
- 1:08:27year only through cold emails. They even
- 1:08:30deliver the service through cold emails.
- 1:08:32There's lead generation companies that
- 1:08:33only work through cold emails. Some
- 1:08:36doornocking. Some go to networking
- 1:08:38events. Some run YouTube ads. Some only
- 1:08:40do cold DMs on Facebook and Instagram.
- 1:08:42Some only do LinkedIn outreach. Every
- 1:08:44acquisition channel can work. You just
- 1:08:47need to pick the one that makes the most
- 1:08:48sense for your niche, for your offer,
- 1:08:51for your finances, and for your stage of
- 1:08:54growth of the agency. That simple. So,
- 1:08:56what you need to know before we get into
- 1:08:57the acquisition systems is first of all
- 1:08:59that each acquisition strategy has its
- 1:09:01pros and cons. Okay? Each of these each
- 1:09:03of these systems are different and it
- 1:09:05serve different purpose at different
- 1:09:06stages. So, for example, cold calling uh
- 1:09:09three zero is perfect if you're making 0
- 1:09:11to $3,000 a month. you're you're
- 1:09:13targeting small or new businesses and it
- 1:09:16is hard but good good if you have a lot
- 1:09:18of time and not much money you can rip
- 1:09:20this out and just get clients SMS if
- 1:09:24you're making three $10,000 a month
- 1:09:26target is small in new businesses still
- 1:09:28it's not the best to start out but
- 1:09:30definitely good once you have a few good
- 1:09:32clients and
- 1:09:34$1,000 a month in marketing budget you
- 1:09:36do need some money to run SMS
- 1:09:39emails they're perfect to go off
- 1:09:42anywhere If for anywhere between zero
- 1:09:44and 50k a month, you can scale with
- 1:09:46emails and you can target really old
- 1:09:48businesses because if you're smart and
- 1:09:50use a little bit of AI or some tools to
- 1:09:53find the personal email of the CEO of
- 1:09:56any big company, you can get directed to
- 1:09:58them and show them your, you know, they
- 1:10:00can what see your read your email while
- 1:10:03they're having coffee in the morning.
- 1:10:04These multi-billion dollar companies,
- 1:10:06that's only really, you can only really
- 1:10:08do that at a cheap rate via email. Uh,
- 1:10:11so that's for me in my opinion the best
- 1:10:13one to start and scale and it's pretty
- 1:10:14much free. All you got to do is be smart
- 1:10:17and creative in your approach. However,
- 1:10:19it is pretty hard or very rare that you
- 1:10:22land a whale through email. While paid
- 1:10:25ads, it's perfect if you're making over
- 1:10:28$10,000 a month to whatever you can make
- 1:10:31anything and you're born to target
- 1:10:32whales. It's not worth it to spend, in
- 1:10:35my opinion, at this point, $50 per
- 1:10:38booked call to get the same quality you
- 1:10:40get for pretty much free via email. It's
- 1:10:43not worth it. But what ads do is they
- 1:10:46allow you to spend $300 per call and you
- 1:10:50can blend those clients that have $10 to
- 1:10:53$20,000 a month in budget to spend just
- 1:10:55for leads. And only ads really allow you
- 1:10:58to do that. And even if at this point
- 1:11:00you already checked this list and you
- 1:11:01know you want to do cold calls, I still
- 1:11:03recommend not skipping the module
- 1:11:05because the lead scraping validation
- 1:11:07process applies to also SMS and email.
- 1:11:10So that's the first thing we'll get into
- 1:11:11as soon as we get into cold calling. Uh
- 1:11:13however, today you want to get this set
- 1:11:15up unless you have this. Do not start
- 1:11:17that position because unless you have
- 1:11:18this,
- 1:11:20it's just you're not going to close
- 1:11:21clients. So take a couple day. It might
- 1:11:23take a couple days. Shouldn't take more
- 1:11:24than a couple days. about and you want
- 1:11:26to have your agency name, your logo,
- 1:11:28domain, payment processor, bank account,
- 1:11:31uh Instagram, Facebook page and YouTube
- 1:11:33channel, Facebook business profile, CRM,
- 1:11:36ISOG go at level like I already said,
- 1:11:38landing page, booking page, confirmation
- 1:11:40page, email domain setup, email
- 1:11:42confirmation, and three reels on
- 1:11:44Instagram. We'll get into content later
- 1:11:46so you can see what's post. And then
- 1:11:48there's a 30-day setup. So within your
- 1:11:50first 30 days, your goal should be to
- 1:11:52have company registered or some sort of
- 1:11:55uh personal business, something that
- 1:11:58gives a text number so that you can get
- 1:11:59a phone number. That's very important.
- 1:12:02And you want to have at least 10 reels.
- 1:12:04But what about testimonials? I already
- 1:12:06gave you a little uh update earlier, but
- 1:12:08the truth is that every single agency
- 1:12:10started without testimonials. And for as
- 1:12:12useful as they are, you can start
- 1:12:14without and have great success today.
- 1:12:15You can close clients today without
- 1:12:17testimonials. I closed my first clients
- 1:12:18without testimonials. So, how could you
- 1:12:21not do that?
- 1:12:23Everybody can. However, definitely don't
- 1:12:25take testimonials or case studies.
- 1:12:27Instead, put the effort into creating
- 1:12:29content Instagram on Instagram and
- 1:12:31YouTube. Creating content that shows
- 1:12:33that you understand your target audience
- 1:12:35and you have the knowledge to help them
- 1:12:37is the best way you can build trust. So,
- 1:12:38just do that. Especially if you have a
- 1:12:40performance-based offer, uh that is
- 1:12:42enough to convert. At first, I was
- 1:12:45leveraging my personal brand personally
- 1:12:47uh on YouTube to increase my authority.
- 1:12:49I had to because I was selling a
- 1:12:50retainer offer. But if I saw if I was
- 1:12:53smart, if I watched a video like this
- 1:12:55and I knew the different models and why
- 1:12:57each one each one works and what to do,
- 1:13:00I would have just gone straight into a
- 1:13:02performance-based one and I wouldn't
- 1:13:04need a 10,000 subs on YouTube to close.
- 1:13:08So
- 1:13:09that's what I would say. You can just
- 1:13:11get into that offer. Don't worry about
- 1:13:13um testimonials, you know, just make it
- 1:13:16for you a goal. I would say within 60
- 1:13:19days to get your first testimonial. That
- 1:13:21would be a good achievement. So, let's
- 1:13:23get into cold calling. So, this is me
- 1:13:27cold calling 30 dials on March 21st,
- 1:13:312025. This is 21 days after starting the
- 1:13:33agency. And I was cold calling
- 1:13:35residential contractors from my bedroom
- 1:13:36in Italy at 1:00 a.m. because we didn't
- 1:13:39have money for any paid acquisition. So,
- 1:13:40we just had to run dog it literally. And
- 1:13:43here's my honest take on cold calling. I
- 1:13:45think it's a great way to start. Learn
- 1:13:47the market in depth, collect objection,
- 1:13:49and optimize your sales script. It was
- 1:13:50extremely uncomfortable for me
- 1:13:52personally. And what was even harder was
- 1:13:54the fact that I was trying to sell
- 1:13:55something and I hadn't really tested
- 1:13:57yet. Nobody's was really I don't know. I
- 1:13:59just didn't never really believed in the
- 1:14:01retainer model and that's what we were
- 1:14:02trying to sell. So, I wasn't I couldn't
- 1:14:05believe in what I was selling. So, it
- 1:14:07was even harder for me to push myself.
- 1:14:09Now it's easy because I know when I have
- 1:14:12works. I know the businesses we've
- 1:14:14impacted and changed with our leads. I
- 1:14:17know we can get the leads. I know we can
- 1:14:18be profitable. I know we can change
- 1:14:19their life. So I'm much more comfortable
- 1:14:22closing selling whatever we have to
- 1:14:25offer and marketing it. But at the time
- 1:14:26I was at I felt like I was selling
- 1:14:28something that I hadn't tested then.
- 1:14:30It's not like I had a support of someone
- 1:14:31who had done it before like you could
- 1:14:34have for example from me. So I really
- 1:14:36felt like it was all up to me and I just
- 1:14:38wasn't confident. I had never run ads
- 1:14:41for any local businesses. I had for
- 1:14:42other businesses but not for local
- 1:14:44businesses. So although I knew I would
- 1:14:46have pulled it off in the end, I
- 1:14:48couldn't fully believe in my abilities
- 1:14:50and my service which made the whole
- 1:14:51process very painful and even more
- 1:14:53tiring, draining really. However, it
- 1:14:56worked. We did end up closing a few
- 1:14:58people and make our first $2,000 uh
- 1:15:00through cold calling pretty much. And
- 1:15:02this is our um yeah this is our revenue
- 1:15:05for between March 1st and uh April 30th
- 1:15:08of 2025. So as you can see at the time
- 1:15:11we were selling on a retainer basis. So
- 1:15:14that made things like I said so made
- 1:15:16things even harder. However, if you have
- 1:15:18some balls and want $200 to invest only
- 1:15:21then this you can do. Okay. Starting
- 1:15:24with the scraping process. Scraping I
- 1:15:27use BS Google Maps uh scraper. It's
- 1:15:29perfect for local businesses. you can
- 1:15:31just scrape very fast on um I'll just
- 1:15:34show you how mine looks like. You know,
- 1:15:36it's that simple. You can I'll show you
- 1:15:38actually I'll actually do it with you in
- 1:15:40a second, but uh you can just use that
- 1:15:43if you're going after insurance
- 1:15:45companies or attorneys or more B2B sort
- 1:15:47of corporate businesses, I would use
- 1:15:50Apollo or any similar tool. This
- 1:15:53scrapers particular, I've started using
- 1:15:55it two years ago, really at the
- 1:15:56beginning of any agency I had. And it's
- 1:15:58great because with $20 a month, you can
- 1:16:00scrape 100,000 leads. And that's more
- 1:16:03than you need for any of these
- 1:16:05acquisition systems. If you want 15%
- 1:16:08off, actually, I have partnered up with
- 1:16:10them. I asked them for a referral link
- 1:16:11for my for a discount link for my
- 1:16:13audience. So, you can use just 15 at
- 1:16:16checkouts. You get 15% off on top of
- 1:16:18$20, which uh I know it's not much, but
- 1:16:21when you're starting out, every dollar
- 1:16:23counts. I know that. So, I hope that
- 1:16:25helps. If you don't want to sign up,
- 1:16:27still sign up for free because they also
- 1:16:29have a free version and you get $500 500
- 1:16:31leads out both with that right away. So
- 1:16:34do that. Once you got it, just input a
- 1:16:37common space separated list with this
- 1:16:39format right here. Business category on
- 1:16:42Google in city state business category
- 1:16:45in city to state. So what I do, I
- 1:16:48usually ask to give me the list of top
- 1:16:5030 or 40 or 20 or 50 depending on the
- 1:16:53state cities in a specific state and
- 1:16:55then it gives me the complete list that
- 1:16:58will look something like this. Plumber
- 1:16:59in Miami, plumber in Temple, plumber in
- 1:17:01Edgeware, whatever. I can just copy this
- 1:17:03list real quick and I'll put it here. I
- 1:17:07do scrape
- 1:17:10and boom, it's gonna start scraping and
- 1:17:12in a few minutes I'm gonna have it. And
- 1:17:14uh super simple. What what else can I
- 1:17:16say? So if you want discount, use that.
- 1:17:20And now let's go into phone validation.
- 1:17:23Okay, this next tapping is a little bit
- 1:17:24annoying, I have to say, but it is
- 1:17:26necessary if you do cold calling and if
- 1:17:27you do mass SMS because you don't want
- 1:17:30to be reaching out to receptionists or
- 1:17:31gatekeepers, especially in SMS, because
- 1:17:34if you do that, messages will bounce and
- 1:17:36your number will be deleted.
- 1:17:38So you want to make sure you're only
- 1:17:39reaching out to valid mobile numbers.
- 1:17:42Um, so and you want to go straight to
- 1:17:44the decision maker. Okay. So, I don't
- 1:17:46know if there's a cheaper, more
- 1:17:47effective way to do this now, but this
- 1:17:49is how I do it and I've done it. Uh, if
- 1:17:51you want to save 10%, I use clear out
- 1:17:53phone. Okay. If you want to use 10%, I'm
- 1:17:55not affiliated with them, but I
- 1:17:57recommend signing up for the monthly
- 1:17:58package and then um removing it. So, let
- 1:18:01me show you what mine looks like on
- 1:18:02clear out phone.
- 1:18:07Um, so
- 1:18:10as you can see, I've validated over
- 1:18:13530,000 leads. I have still 10,000
- 1:18:16credits up here. What I recommend when
- 1:18:19you sign up is if you need more credits,
- 1:18:21so buy credits,
- 1:18:24uh, do the $10,000 $10,000 credits for
- 1:18:27monthly. So you pay $52 for 100 for
- 1:18:3010,000 credits instead of paying $58 for
- 1:18:3310,000 credits. Again, not that much uh
- 1:18:36saving, but it's better in my opinion
- 1:18:38than getting 5,000 credits for $35. Uh
- 1:18:42so, as you can see, I actually use this.
- 1:18:44I've used it for my leads. And then what
- 1:18:46I do is I open it on Google Sheet.
- 1:18:48Whatever list it gives me back and I
- 1:18:51filter the phone number columns for
- 1:18:53mobile numbers because that's all we
- 1:18:54need. Then we copy the list and uh we
- 1:18:57put in a new sheet and that's the list
- 1:19:00uh we'll call. And this step is actually
- 1:19:03important because if you don't do this
- 1:19:04and you just export the sheet after
- 1:19:06putting the filter, uh it won't be
- 1:19:08applied and you'll just export the full
- 1:19:10list. So you want to copy the whole
- 1:19:12list, copy paste all the leads into a
- 1:19:14different uh page and then you export it
- 1:19:18because uh obviously you don't want to
- 1:19:20be reaching out to receptionists at
- 1:19:21gatekeepers. Next for cold calling is
- 1:19:24the cold calling software. So, if you
- 1:19:26live in the country you want to do
- 1:19:28business in, you're very lucky and you
- 1:19:30can get started calling from your mobile
- 1:19:31number right away. It's not scalable to
- 1:19:33$1,000 dials a day, eventually you'll go
- 1:19:35to spam, but you you get a good pick up
- 1:19:37rates first and you can close your first
- 1:19:39clients. So, you don't have any to spend
- 1:19:42really any extra money to start besides
- 1:19:44these two things, less than 100 bucks
- 1:19:46and uh you don't even need a cold
- 1:19:48calling software. While, like me, you're
- 1:19:50targeting the US and you don't live
- 1:19:52there, you do need a cold calling
- 1:19:54software. We started off with open phone
- 1:19:56because it was cheaper but we were going
- 1:19:57to spam pickup rate was very bad. So
- 1:20:00then I used uh Kixie and it did the job.
- 1:20:04Uh I'm not in a position to recommend it
- 1:20:05because I didn't use it enough but if
- 1:20:07you want to have a soft you just look
- 1:20:09for softwares like that do a little bit
- 1:20:10of research but you do want that because
- 1:20:12what it does is uh most businesses are
- 1:20:15used to cold calls and they only answer
- 1:20:17to calls coming from their area code.
- 1:20:19And so if they see a call coming from a
- 1:20:21different state, a random number that
- 1:20:23you got on go ahead level
- 1:20:24[clears throat] or
- 1:20:26on uh open phone, they won't answer. It
- 1:20:29automatically gets rotated and boom,
- 1:20:31doesn't it work? Well, a proper calling
- 1:20:34tool, they automatically rotate your
- 1:20:35number to the custom area code. So if
- 1:20:39they see you're calling someone that
- 1:20:40starts with 307, they'll give you a
- 1:20:43phone number to call with starting with
- 1:20:45a 307, which is great. And that's why I
- 1:20:47think it's worth the money if you
- 1:20:48actually do cold calling. Seriously. Uh
- 1:20:50for setup number four, start dialing.
- 1:20:54It's as simple as that. Grab your balls
- 1:20:55and start dialing. Okay. Uh once you
- 1:20:57have the leads and the tool, you're
- 1:20:59ready to dial. So now all you need is a
- 1:21:01good calling script. I test a lot of
- 1:21:02scripts and opening. This is the one we
- 1:21:04ended up using the most. So start with
- 1:21:06something like uh hey, can you hear me?
- 1:21:09They say yes, I can. Yeah. Uh, I saw on
- 1:21:11Google that you do, for example, fences,
- 1:21:14and I'm currently booking fencing
- 1:21:16estimates for about $17 each. Uh, so
- 1:21:20yeah, I was just calling to see if
- 1:21:21you're already fully packed for the
- 1:21:23summer or if I could maybe help you fill
- 1:21:25up the schedule. As you can tell, I
- 1:21:26wasn't very good at cold calling, but
- 1:21:28still made money. They'll answer
- 1:21:30something like, um, sure, or something
- 1:21:32like that. And then, uh, yeah. So you
- 1:21:34know how fancing companies usually
- 1:21:36struggle with not filling up their
- 1:21:38schedule or having enough leads, booking
- 1:21:41the leads manually, stuff like that.
- 1:21:43They will say, "Yeah." And so you say,
- 1:21:44"Yeah, yeah." So what we do is we help
- 1:21:46companies like that get higher volume of
- 1:21:48leads, book those leads in autopilot on
- 1:21:50autopilot with AI and we actually follow
- 1:21:52up with them for you. So if they don't
- 1:21:54convert into estimates, we book them for
- 1:21:56you. You close more jobs. Uh just out of
- 1:21:59curiosity, how do you guys get leads at
- 1:22:02the moment? you know tonight is
- 1:22:04something that you will learn later and
- 1:22:05it's about in sales. So after that we go
- 1:22:08into the zoom call incentive. So yeah I
- 1:22:11mean if you have time later we can I
- 1:22:13guess hop on a quick zoom call. So I
- 1:22:14share my screen and show you what your
- 1:22:17agent would this is if you're sending
- 1:22:18for example a receptionist if you tell
- 1:22:20them that you do it through AI what your
- 1:22:22agent sounds like. So let me see my
- 1:22:24calendar real quick. Uh would 7 p.m.
- 1:22:27tonight work for you? Okay. Okay. So,
- 1:22:28what something you will learn once you
- 1:22:30start marketing your offer and we do
- 1:22:32more into the messaging when it comes to
- 1:22:33emails and mass DMs is that sometimes
- 1:22:36you got to wrap your offer on a
- 1:22:39different with a different package, you
- 1:22:40know, different packaging reps as an AR
- 1:22:43receptionist if that's what people want,
- 1:22:44but then you actually are sending leads
- 1:22:46in the back end. You tell them you're
- 1:22:48doing paper job, but then you on the
- 1:22:49call you actually tell them you do paper
- 1:22:51lead. And the truth is if you get to if
- 1:22:55you get them to open up, get into their
- 1:22:57pain and then you get them to trust you
- 1:23:01and you relate to them and you use the
- 1:23:02right probing questions and you show
- 1:23:03that you can deliver the ser the results
- 1:23:05that they want. They don't care if
- 1:23:07you're doing the paper lead paper job or
- 1:23:08paper nothing. They just care that you
- 1:23:10do it. So that's something I will tell
- 1:23:12you. Uh but yeah, you can read this on
- 1:23:14your own booking question incentive
- 1:23:16pre-framing all very simple. If you're
- 1:23:18seriously considering cold calling, I
- 1:23:20recommend doing more research on
- 1:23:21YouTube. The best thing you can do is
- 1:23:22watch people in your niche in an offer,
- 1:23:25similar offer doing cold calling live
- 1:23:27and literally just copy their script and
- 1:23:30work on your tone. I've seen openings
- 1:23:32written recently like hey uh is this
- 1:23:35name? And then they say yeah okay do you
- 1:23:37want the good news or the bad news? And
- 1:23:38they're like what I guess the bad news.
- 1:23:41The bad news this is a cold call. The
- 1:23:43good news I'm here I actually did my
- 1:23:45research and I can give you something
- 1:23:47valuable. Do you have two minutes to do
- 1:23:50you want to hang up or do you have a
- 1:23:51second to talk? Something like that.
- 1:23:53Another opening. Uh this is a cold Hey,
- 1:23:56this is a cold call. Do you have 30
- 1:23:57seconds to hear my offer or would you
- 1:23:59like to hang up now?
- 1:24:01And you know, sometimes you get some
- 1:24:03people to say yes so that you can pitch
- 1:24:04your offer. I mean, you're just getting
- 1:24:06opportunities. You're getting you're
- 1:24:07getting shots. That's all you need right
- 1:24:09now. You need some shots. You need to be
- 1:24:10in front of some people, talk with them,
- 1:24:13have conversations with people in your
- 1:24:14niche, and start making some money.
- 1:24:17That's all you need. Okay. So, the point
- 1:24:18is you don't need to be smart with cold
- 1:24:20calling. You just get an opening that
- 1:24:22works, decent script, and it's a numbers
- 1:24:24game. The more you put in, the more
- 1:24:25dials, the more bookings you're going to
- 1:24:26get out. We did calling for about a
- 1:24:28month. And then we moved on to the
- 1:24:30second acquisition system, which was
- 1:24:32mass.
- 1:24:34Now, SMS is good because SMS marketing
- 1:24:38has an impressive open rate of 90 to
- 1:24:4198%. That is insane compared to emails,
- 1:24:44for example. Uh now we scaled to $10,000
- 1:24:47a month in full transparency for the
- 1:24:49first time last July. So that was July
- 1:24:522025
- 1:24:55and that's as you can see here how much
- 1:24:57we made and it was all through mass SMS.
- 1:25:02It was all through SMS. The strategy is
- 1:25:04to use go level to automatically reach
- 1:25:06out in bulk to a thousand leads every
- 1:25:09single day and then call anyone who
- 1:25:11replies as fast as possible and book an
- 1:25:14appointment with them. Obviously,
- 1:25:15there's some niches where this works
- 1:25:16better. Other niches doesn't work as
- 1:25:18well. You're going to have to test it
- 1:25:19out. You're going to have to do your
- 1:25:20research. I'm not being all niches in
- 1:25:22the world. You can't expect me to do
- 1:25:24that. But I can give you a system that
- 1:25:26works because it scaled us to $10,000 a
- 1:25:29month. Now, by now, we've already sent
- 1:25:32out over 250,000 messages because, as
- 1:25:35you can see from u here, half of these
- 1:25:38usually are not mobile numbers. Half of
- 1:25:41them are. So, we reached out to the
- 1:25:42other half. 250,000 messages and we are
- 1:25:45still sending out to this day every
- 1:25:47single month just increase reach and
- 1:25:49diversify our system. Uh so let me show
- 1:25:51you how we actually get this system set
- 1:25:53up step by step. First of all again
- 1:25:55scraping we use still Google maps
- 1:25:58scraper code jubby 15% off. Step number
- 1:26:02two phone validation clear out phone.
- 1:26:05And speaking of costs, this is where it
- 1:26:07really can get a little expensive. Um,
- 1:26:10because you know, you want to send out
- 1:26:11at least a thousand DMs per day, six
- 1:26:13days a week. So, let's say you're
- 1:26:16sending out seven days a week. Okay? You
- 1:26:17can expect about 50% of the leads that
- 1:26:20you scrape to have a mobile number. So,
- 1:26:22you're paying $52 in credits to to send
- 1:26:25out 50 to send to have 5,000 leads to
- 1:26:29send out mobile numbers. And then on go
- 1:26:32level the cost per SMS depends on how
- 1:26:34long the message is. If it c it costs
- 1:26:360.0079
- 1:26:39per segment and a segment is 160
- 1:26:41characters. Now historically
- 1:26:44most of our outreach messages are about
- 1:26:46two segments. So to send out a,000 SMS
- 1:26:49you can expect to spend $15 to $16. So
- 1:26:53at the end of the month just sending out
- 1:26:55the messages is $450 a month to reach
- 1:26:5930,000 businesses. And then you got to
- 1:27:02put the validation costs which put you
- 1:27:04on about $750 a month total in marketing
- 1:27:07spend. It's not too bad. At our peak we
- 1:27:09were spending $2,000 a month. At our
- 1:27:11peak, you know, running SMS, we spent up
- 1:27:13to $2,000 a month in SMS alone with the
- 1:27:15validation costs. So, um, it's definely
- 1:27:18doable and scalable like that. But what
- 1:27:20you'll see especially if you do pay per
- 1:27:22lead you will reach a cap on and and
- 1:27:25that's really the reason we started
- 1:27:27sending less SMS and moved into other
- 1:27:30acquisition systems is because it works
- 1:27:32good especially at first with a good
- 1:27:33offer but then the offer has been heard
- 1:27:35and yes you can recycle the same leads
- 1:27:38every two three months but
- 1:27:40it's just it the end of the day there's
- 1:27:43a only so much 10 total addressable
- 1:27:46market that you can go after in a niche
- 1:27:48and you don't want to split yourself
- 1:27:49thin
- 1:27:50between so many niches when you do pay
- 1:27:52per lead because you want to have a
- 1:27:54repeatable predictable cost per lead as
- 1:27:57predictable as possible. So that's why
- 1:27:59we moved a little away from it at first
- 1:28:01because after a while because we ran out
- 1:28:04of leads we reach out to the same people
- 1:28:06too much. Step number three is going to
- 1:28:08be to organize your list. Uh you can I'm
- 1:28:10sure you can link you can automate this
- 1:28:11process with cl or something but uh I do
- 1:28:14this to keep up with the with the leads.
- 1:28:18Okay. After I copy and paste the um
- 1:28:23valu validated list uh and I filter it,
- 1:28:26I take the whole list, I copy it, paste
- 1:28:28it in a new sheet like this, paste it
- 1:28:30here. I remove all the columns that I
- 1:28:32don't need and this is what I get out
- 1:28:33with. And then this I can I can um
- 1:28:36export and put it directly on go level
- 1:28:39uh to actually send out the SMS. I'll
- 1:28:41show you that in a second. And then I
- 1:28:43put a check here on the name to know
- 1:28:45when I reached out to to a state so I
- 1:28:48don't reach out to that again. And if I
- 1:28:51ever want to reuse the list, I just take
- 1:28:52all the checks off three months later
- 1:28:54and rego through all of it. Um now where
- 1:28:58was I here? Um
- 1:29:02that said SMS automation. All you need
- 1:29:04to do now is set send out the SMS via go
- 1:29:07high level. And this is what the very
- 1:29:09very simple workflow looks like.
- 1:29:12It's super super simple. Pretty much all
- 1:29:14you do is you use a um tag as um
- 1:29:20trigger. Okay. So our tag is mass SMS.
- 1:29:24Then you have a drip mode here.
- 1:29:27So drip mode of a batch size of five and
- 1:29:31a drip interval of one and a half
- 1:29:33minutes. So every one and a half minutes
- 1:29:34five people will go through this list
- 1:29:37and every every 5 minutes so every one
- 1:29:39and a half minutes five people will
- 1:29:41receive this SMS and the SMS we'll talk
- 1:29:44about the SMS messages in a second but
- 1:29:46this is all you need and to import uh
- 1:29:49someone here on um you're going to go in
- 1:29:53contacts once you export that list. Okay
- 1:29:55so let's do an example live.
- 1:30:02Okay.
- 1:30:03Import contacts.
- 1:30:06Next.
- 1:30:08Upload.
- 1:30:12Create and update contacts. Next.
- 1:30:16And here's where you map it. So, you're
- 1:30:18going to have name, phone number,
- 1:30:21website, and we have no email. So, don't
- 1:30:23import that data. Next. All you want to
- 1:30:26do is select tag.
- 1:30:33And boom. And once you import, once you
- 1:30:35click start import, that's when the
- 1:30:37automation will start and you'll start
- 1:30:40people will start dripping through uh
- 1:30:42the workflow.
- 1:30:45Now, [clears throat]
- 1:30:46uh that done, let's get into the
- 1:30:49messaging. Now, there's two really uh
- 1:30:52messages that you can do. Uh one is
- 1:30:54straight to the point. So, you can have
- 1:30:56for example two different segments.
- 1:30:58They're a little more expensive. you get
- 1:31:00less replies, but it's easier to book
- 1:31:02people like that. Okay? Well, the second
- 1:31:04one is open-ended, so it's cheaper to
- 1:31:07send because it's going to be one
- 1:31:08segment, but and you will get more
- 1:31:10replies, but it's heaven in the
- 1:31:11appointment setting. Imagine you have to
- 1:31:13go do a two-hour call with someone that
- 1:31:16answered yes to a very open-ended
- 1:31:19message, and you have to go through the
- 1:31:21whole objection handling, pre-framing,
- 1:31:23stuff like that. It's much harder on the
- 1:31:25aid setter. Uh but in your case, you
- 1:31:27don't want to lead with a paper lead
- 1:31:29angle. Like I said earlier, you want to
- 1:31:32wrap it up in a different package. Even
- 1:31:33if your offer is in fact paper lead, you
- 1:31:36need to come across as new for them to
- 1:31:38reply. And you'd be surprised how many
- 1:31:39calls and SMS these people get every
- 1:31:42single day. So what's worked well for us
- 1:31:44is to lead with a only pay if you close
- 1:31:47the job kind of offer. And then in the
- 1:31:50meeting, we switch to paper lit. And at
- 1:31:52the end of the day, if you're, you know,
- 1:31:54good at bringing up the pain in the
- 1:31:55prospect, you're in the in the whether
- 1:31:57you're on the phone or in the meeting
- 1:31:59with them and you can show them that you
- 1:32:01build the trust. Show them that you can
- 1:32:03deliver them the results. They don't
- 1:32:04really care what you offer. Just do
- 1:32:06whatever you said you were going to do
- 1:32:08and deliver the results. That simple
- 1:32:09method
- 1:32:11anyways. So, here's a couple straight to
- 1:32:13the point message structures that you
- 1:32:14can use for SMS. The first one is a this
- 1:32:17is name if direct offer. Would that be a
- 1:32:21fair offer? No statements. So, for
- 1:32:23example, um I don't have an example
- 1:32:26here. So, hey, this is Matia. If I
- 1:32:30uh booked you qualified jobs through AI
- 1:32:34and you pay me a small fee per
- 1:32:36appointment uh and you pay me a small
- 1:32:38fee, uh small percentage per job that
- 1:32:40you close, would I prefer offer? No ad
- 1:32:43spend, no upfront fee, something like
- 1:32:45that. That's what I mean by this
- 1:32:48template. Or, hi, I know this is random,
- 1:32:51but I found you on Google and
- 1:32:55uh I'm looking for someone to give more
- 1:32:58estimates to. Okay, you obviously want
- 1:32:59to make this better and or just say and
- 1:33:02I'm looking uh I can get you some jobs
- 1:33:04you can only pay me per percentage. Open
- 1:33:06to chat, then just I have some proof and
- 1:33:08it will either ask you for the proof or
- 1:33:10say yes or tell you to [ __ ] off. One of
- 1:33:12the three. Now, for the open-end
- 1:33:15messages, you want to pretty much start
- 1:33:16a conversation. So, if you're not good
- 1:33:18with appointment setting, uh this one
- 1:33:19will definitely be harder for you. You
- 1:33:21might start with a classic bait and
- 1:33:23switch message like, "Hey, uh do you
- 1:33:25have time for, I don't know, a um
- 1:33:30plumbing appointment in whatever city
- 1:33:33next week at 5:00 p.m. And if you get a
- 1:33:36yes, they think you're a customer now.
- 1:33:39So, you got to call them and tell them
- 1:33:41why you booked. you talk you know why
- 1:33:44you said that okay uh and you want to
- 1:33:47call them as soon as possible so this is
- 1:33:48what I mean when it's harder on the uh
- 1:33:51appointment setting so a way you can
- 1:33:53connect is saying that you have some
- 1:33:54leads in the area and you might have one
- 1:33:56for that date and time but you don't
- 1:33:58have any business that you're working
- 1:34:00with in the area so that's why you
- 1:34:01reached out for example okay obviously
- 1:34:04you know you need to be smart you can't
- 1:34:05just take this copy paste do it because
- 1:34:08everybody in this video can't see this
- 1:34:10so you know be smart. That's where the
- 1:34:13edge is. The best messaging, best
- 1:34:14approach, best offer. That's where the
- 1:34:16money is made. Obviously, if you are in
- 1:34:18my Discord or um signed up and have the
- 1:34:21call with me, I can help you uh for
- 1:34:23free. That's not a problem. Now, uh step
- 1:34:26number five is the appointment setting.
- 1:34:27Now, the appointment setting is the most
- 1:34:29important part of this whole process.
- 1:34:30How can you do SMS and book calls if
- 1:34:32you're not doing appointment setting?
- 1:34:34and um nay later in the video in this
- 1:34:37last section down here I will show you
- 1:34:40our exact appointment setting script uh
- 1:34:42and everything you need but we first
- 1:34:43need to talk obviously about mon about
- 1:34:45objection handling framing and much more
- 1:34:47so you can get the most out of it and to
- 1:34:50be completely transparent right now I am
- 1:34:51not the person who's handling sales in
- 1:34:53our company uh my business partner is
- 1:34:55and he has a YouTube channel where he
- 1:34:57will post more about it so I have his
- 1:34:59scripts I have everything and I have his
- 1:35:00recordings but he will be able to give
- 1:35:03you much better information all of this.
- 1:35:06So if you are for example signed up with
- 1:35:08go level through me and you're in
- 1:35:09Discord and you book you you want to
- 1:35:11book your call about sales specifically
- 1:35:14you can just ask me to book a call with
- 1:35:16no instead of me my business partner and
- 1:35:18you can have a call with David instead
- 1:35:19of me either way on Discord going to be
- 1:35:22there's going to be both of us. Uh and
- 1:35:24one thing is that definitely if you've
- 1:35:26never tried setting to a cold audience
- 1:35:27on the phone you might feel a little bit
- 1:35:29scared and uncomfortable right now. You
- 1:35:31know, I was like that too. And that's
- 1:35:33okay. That's a good thing. Actually,
- 1:35:35every single stressful agency owner felt
- 1:35:37like that at some point. Everyone from
- 1:35:40me to Imanage, anyone in between.
- 1:35:42Everybody has done that. And the only
- 1:35:44difference is that we did it anyway.
- 1:35:46These guys who are making 300, 400, 500,
- 1:35:49a million dollars a month, they did it
- 1:35:50anyway. So, if you're starting out, I'm
- 1:35:52just going to do it anyway. So, go
- 1:35:54through the motions, dial the number,
- 1:35:56regardless of how it goes, follow the
- 1:35:58script, and improve from there. It's
- 1:35:59that simple. And it's honestly not that
- 1:36:01deep. So, let's move into cold emails.
- 1:36:04Now, cold email is the gem that I really
- 1:36:07wish I discovered sooner just because
- 1:36:10you probably Gen Z or someone like me
- 1:36:13don't communicate via email that much
- 1:36:15because I mean I use WhatsApp,
- 1:36:16Instagram, uh normal numbers, stuff like
- 1:36:18that. It doesn't mean that businesses
- 1:36:21that the business you're targeting
- 1:36:22don't. They actually do. Most are owned
- 1:36:24by boomers and baby boomers and they're
- 1:36:26the number one email users. And as of
- 1:36:29today, we're sending out 50 new emails
- 1:36:31and 50 follow-ups per day. And every
- 1:36:34morning, Noah, my business partner,
- 1:36:35wakes up to 10 to 15 positive replies
- 1:36:38from owners sending us their number
- 1:36:41asking us to call them because that's at
- 1:36:43the end of the day the whole point of an
- 1:36:45outreach message, whether it's via SMS
- 1:36:47or email. These are this point I really
- 1:36:48want to get across. You want them to say
- 1:36:51yes. Meaning, yes, I'll talk to you even
- 1:36:54though there's a chance you might pitch
- 1:36:56me something. That's all you need your
- 1:36:58email to do. And at the end of the sales
- 1:37:00process, the at the end of the day, the
- 1:37:02sales process will do the rest. Okay? I
- 1:37:05truly believe that if you can come up
- 1:37:06with a creative approach, an angle, a
- 1:37:09message, you can pretty easily close two
- 1:37:11clients per day for pretty much free via
- 1:37:14email. You don't need any software. You
- 1:37:17don't need to warm up domains. You don't
- 1:37:18need lead validations costs, nothing
- 1:37:21like that. And like I said, this course
- 1:37:23is for you to get your first client
- 1:37:24within the next three days. So,
- 1:37:25obviously, I wouldn't want you to go
- 1:37:27through a 14-day email
- 1:37:30um warm-up, you know, domain warm-up.
- 1:37:33All you need is a scraping tool, which
- 1:37:36we already have. You need a cloud or
- 1:37:38trapdity, Gmail, and a good appointment
- 1:37:41setting script. That's all we'll talk
- 1:37:44briefly. Um we've talked a little bit
- 1:37:46about the appointment setting script
- 1:37:48earlier in the cold in the mass SMS, but
- 1:37:50full section dedicated to it coming
- 1:37:52soon. And there's also going to be live
- 1:37:56appointment setting call and live sales
- 1:37:58call. So hold up for that. Now I kid you
- 1:38:01not. Right now we are only we run our
- 1:38:04email marketing system for $70 a month
- 1:38:07and it closes more than SMS and ads
- 1:38:10combined which is why I stopped my ad
- 1:38:12campaigns at the moment. I'll tell you
- 1:38:14why in a second. Uh and it's so simple
- 1:38:17this system that you can set up yourself
- 1:38:19today. Like I said everything today. So
- 1:38:22here's exactly how to set up a toz.
- 1:38:23First of all, scraping tool. Same as
- 1:38:25always, bolt scraper GB15 for 15% off
- 1:38:29list cleanup. This is for this you can
- 1:38:31use GPT to clean up and list and
- 1:38:34organize the columns. Uh this is the
- 1:38:36skill that I created for it. I'm not
- 1:38:38going to read it like it's pretty long,
- 1:38:41but you can copy and paste it. All it
- 1:38:43does is um cleans, qualifies, and
- 1:38:47reaches and exports Google Maps, B2B
- 1:38:49leads. Uh, and that's literally what the
- 1:38:52skill is. Okay. So, based on their
- 1:38:54business name, based on the category of
- 1:38:56the of the niche that you put in the
- 1:38:59scraping tool, you will remove anyone
- 1:39:01that doesn't really fit that category or
- 1:39:03has a website that doesn't look like
- 1:39:06they actually sell that service because
- 1:39:08sometimes you're going to get you're
- 1:39:09going to scrape some people who don't
- 1:39:11really do that. So it will remove non-
- 1:39:12matching business, normalize website
- 1:39:14domains, research the owner's first and
- 1:39:16last name and keep only the requested
- 1:39:18lead columns. So this will prepare your
- 1:39:21list for the validation which will come
- 1:39:24later. Um it's not really a validation,
- 1:39:27it's enrichment. Okay, it's finding
- 1:39:29their personal email, their personal
- 1:39:31email. So uh what I would recommend
- 1:39:33though for finding uh first and last
- 1:39:35name is to use cloth because I find that
- 1:39:38to be much more accurate. Right now for
- 1:39:40me it finds the first name of about 55
- 1:39:43to 60% of the leads. Chip is way worse
- 1:39:46than that. So after you go through these
- 1:39:48skill on CHP or maybe you put it
- 1:39:50directly on cloud use cloud for um for
- 1:39:53finding a first and last name separately
- 1:39:56and tell it to do it in batches of 10 so
- 1:39:58it stays accurate. If you give it a 200
- 1:40:01lead list and say hey reach out to you
- 1:40:04know find me the first and last name it
- 1:40:06will find a few and then get lost. do
- 1:40:08batches of 10 at a time. Then personal
- 1:40:11email finder. The next step is to find
- 1:40:12the personal email of the owner. Now,
- 1:40:15this step is honestly not 100%
- 1:40:18necessary, but personal company emails
- 1:40:20have higher reply rate. So, in my
- 1:40:21opinion, if you're sending out emails
- 1:40:23consistently, this is worth $50 a month.
- 1:40:26Uh, I use lead magic. I started
- 1:40:28recently. Uh, and personally, for me, it
- 1:40:31finds about 20% of the leads that I give
- 1:40:34it with a first and last name. So let's
- 1:40:36say you have 100 leads. 60 have a first
- 1:40:39name. 40 have both first and last name
- 1:40:43and eight will have a personal company
- 1:40:45email because you'll find 20% of these
- 1:40:4840. Uh so if you have a thousand leads,
- 1:40:51you will get
- 1:40:5380 personal emails and those will go
- 1:40:56better. You know, they will have a
- 1:40:58higher reply rate than other emails. And
- 1:41:00that's why I said like it's not 100%
- 1:41:02needed. We're not talking about 90% of
- 1:41:04leads are going to be through lead
- 1:41:05magic, but I think for me it's worth it.
- 1:41:08Okay. Uh, however, no note numbers do
- 1:41:11vary by niche. Obviously we're not
- 1:41:13targeting those niches but if we were to
- 1:41:15target the finance niche it will be it
- 1:41:17would be much different because it's I
- 1:41:20think different like most cons forget
- 1:41:22for me residential companies residential
- 1:41:25constructors they don't really care
- 1:41:26about having a personalized sending
- 1:41:28domain and their own personal email you
- 1:41:32know but other companies more corporate
- 1:41:34definitely do. Uh, so all you have to do
- 1:41:37is upload your cleared up list to the
- 1:41:39tool and it will find the emails and
- 1:41:41spit out the new list with their
- 1:41:42personal email. Then give it back to AI
- 1:41:44and tell it to delete every role that
- 1:41:46has no email at all. That means that
- 1:41:49there if there wasn't an email already
- 1:41:51on their Google business profile and no
- 1:41:54personal email was found, it's pretty
- 1:41:56much useless to have that row because
- 1:41:58you're only reaching out via email. Next
- 1:42:01thing, keep only the columns you need
- 1:42:03and then you can start outreaching. For
- 1:42:06the sending domain, like I said, you
- 1:42:08don't need one. You can start sending
- 1:42:09out from a war Gmail account. Make sure
- 1:42:11it's personal, not a content account.
- 1:42:14And in the future, if you want, you can
- 1:42:17get domains and send out with volume,
- 1:42:19but that's not the game you want to play
- 1:42:20at first. A warm Gmail account allows
- 1:42:23you to safely safely safely at first
- 1:42:25sends out send out 50 emails a day. Just
- 1:42:28don't send more than 15 per hour, not 50
- 1:42:30scheduled at the same time. And boom,
- 1:42:32that's all you need to get 10 to 15
- 1:42:34replies per day. That's simple. I
- 1:42:36definitely recommend using two accounts.
- 1:42:37So, in one you send 50 new emails a day,
- 1:42:40and the other one you send 50 follow-ups
- 1:42:42every day because follow-ups are
- 1:42:43important. Don't neglect them. I
- 1:42:45actually saw uh um I did an analysis of
- 1:42:48our campaign with GPT earlier, and 27%
- 1:42:52of our bookings from email came through
- 1:42:54follow-ups. So, you're missing out on a
- 1:42:57third of the le of the appointments if
- 1:42:59you don't do follow-ups. At least one.
- 1:43:00I'm only doing one really. So, uh send
- 1:43:03send one after 24 hours. Now, the email.
- 1:43:06Okay.
- 1:43:08Oh, boy. This is where the money is at.
- 1:43:09This is where the money is at. Let me
- 1:43:10tell you,
- 1:43:12you probably been wondering when is he
- 1:43:14going to show us his email, right? Where
- 1:43:16is this 20%, you know, all these crazy
- 1:43:18booking rates and stuff. Okay. Now,
- 1:43:22uh, the brutal honest answer is I won't
- 1:43:26show you my email. [laughter]
- 1:43:27I want to show you my email. No. And not
- 1:43:29because I'm a bad person and I want to
- 1:43:31gatekeep value, but because if I share
- 1:43:33it on YouTube for free, it will
- 1:43:35completely lose its value. The best
- 1:43:37thing I can do for you right now, trust
- 1:43:38me, is gatekeep an email that's working
- 1:43:41and give you the right information to
- 1:43:44inspire you and give you ideas to come
- 1:43:46up with your own great, unique,
- 1:43:48original, even better email because
- 1:43:51trust me, you can do it. Like one thing
- 1:43:52that I had when I looked for the first
- 1:43:54time into this uh to this acquisition
- 1:43:58system was this kind of anxiety of
- 1:44:01finding the best email, this great
- 1:44:02email. And I thought it was hard. Every
- 1:44:05email has already been used. You know,
- 1:44:06all these emails have already been used.
- 1:44:09Trust me, you can come up with a good
- 1:44:10email. You can do it like I did it. It's
- 1:44:13much easier than you think. You just got
- 1:44:14to follow a couple logical steps and
- 1:44:17think about it the right way. Okay? So,
- 1:44:19I'll start that process to help you
- 1:44:21build your create your own email with
- 1:44:23asking a few questions. So, you want to
- 1:44:26write down your answers and if you don't
- 1:44:27know the answer, you need to do more
- 1:44:29research. That simple. You definitely
- 1:44:30don't understand your ICP well enough
- 1:44:32yet. So first question, what
- 1:44:34notification would they open instantly
- 1:44:37or get a dopamine rush from? For ecom
- 1:44:41owner, it's a new sale notification. For
- 1:44:44me, agency owner, it's a new booked call
- 1:44:46notification for or new lead
- 1:44:49notification. For traders, it's a order
- 1:44:51field notification. What is it for your
- 1:44:54ICP? Think about it. Think about it.
- 1:44:58That's your foot in the door. That's how
- 1:45:00you get in. Now, what does the most
- 1:45:02common sales email they receive sound
- 1:45:05like? Do you know? You need to know.
- 1:45:07Check your market. Do your niche. Do
- 1:45:08your research. Use AI. I don't care what
- 1:45:10you do. Third, what sales messaging are
- 1:45:13they exposed to every single day on
- 1:45:15Facebook, on Instagram, on LinkedIn, on
- 1:45:17YouTube, anything they watch when
- 1:45:19someone tries to sell them something,
- 1:45:21what do they see every day? You need to
- 1:45:23know that to stand out from the
- 1:45:24competition. So, start by getting very
- 1:45:27clear answers to these questions. And
- 1:45:29then here's a good email structure you
- 1:45:30can start from. Hey, first name. Then
- 1:45:33you give them a uh logical excuse for
- 1:45:35sending the email that in my experience
- 1:45:38lowers sales resistance. So I'm reaching
- 1:45:42out because I found you on Google or um
- 1:45:45I called you but didn't work. Or your
- 1:45:48number on uh
- 1:45:51on your website is wrong or whatever.
- 1:45:54Something like that. an excuse to reach
- 1:45:56out. Then you want to give them your
- 1:45:57offer so that you attach that you
- 1:45:59attached something as proof whatever
- 1:46:01that something is human touch and then
- 1:46:04why you reach human touch is going to be
- 1:46:06something like I know this is random
- 1:46:09something that makes you come across as
- 1:46:10human and then you tell them why you
- 1:46:12reach out to them and why they should
- 1:46:14answer fast. This makes the email
- 1:46:16credible and creates FOMO. For example,
- 1:46:19I'm reaching out to you because I'm not
- 1:46:20working with anyone in the area. Um, and
- 1:46:22I'll need someone by tomorrow and this
- 1:46:24is going to this deal is done only is
- 1:46:26going to be available only for tomorrow
- 1:46:28and I reach out to 30 people in your
- 1:46:29area. So, you need to reach out to us
- 1:46:31fast. Anything like that? CTA, what you
- 1:46:34want me to do? What do you want them to
- 1:46:35do? Call to action for us. Uh, we ask
- 1:46:38them to send us their number or tell us
- 1:46:41yes and we'll call them so we can have a
- 1:46:43conversation with them. Uh, and then the
- 1:46:45signature. Obviously, this is just one
- 1:46:46of the many cold email templates that
- 1:46:48you can find out and pick between. It's
- 1:46:50just one that works well for us. Uh, all
- 1:46:52you got to do is stay under 100 words
- 1:46:54and after you're done, whatever email
- 1:46:56template you use, make sure regardless
- 1:46:58of the template and these that the email
- 1:47:00checks out all of these boxes. Does it
- 1:47:02sound like I only sent this email to
- 1:47:04this person? Does it sound like I just
- 1:47:07typed it real quick without too much
- 1:47:08thought behind it? You want to you want
- 1:47:10casual? You want some personal facts?
- 1:47:12Then you want to say is the what's in it
- 1:47:15for me clear for the other person for
- 1:47:18the other person. If it's not if it's
- 1:47:20not clear what's in it for them they
- 1:47:21will never answer. Does it feel human?
- 1:47:24Do I come across as a real person or as
- 1:47:26a robot or as a corporate company?
- 1:47:29That's why you want to reach out from
- 1:47:30your personal email with your name and
- 1:47:32last name and not from a company email.
- 1:47:35Is the reason they should answer now
- 1:47:36clear? Okay. If it's not, they will not
- 1:47:39have any FOMO. They need to answer right
- 1:47:40now and the reason for that must be
- 1:47:42clear. Have attached some sort of proof.
- 1:47:44Without proof, there's no trust. They
- 1:47:46don't know you or like you or trust you.
- 1:47:47You need to put a little bit of that.
- 1:47:49Now, next thing, connect your Gmail to
- 1:47:51AI. Once you get the lead emails
- 1:47:53already, the most time consuming task is
- 1:47:55definitely sending out the emails. At
- 1:47:56first, I did it manually. Then I just
- 1:47:58created a simple skill on CHP. Just look
- 1:48:01on YouTube if you don't know how to do
- 1:48:02it. It's super simple. Uh connect it on
- 1:48:05connect to your cloud. That's super
- 1:48:07simple. And then you just tell it to a
- 1:48:09script you want to use, what you want to
- 1:48:11personalize. You give it your leads list
- 1:48:13with the custom values like a first
- 1:48:15name, last name, email, whatever. And
- 1:48:17you turn it into a skill. And in 2
- 1:48:20minutes, it will literally draft all the
- 1:48:21emails so you can uh schedule them. And
- 1:48:24both 9 to 1 p.m. is my preferred sending
- 1:48:27time. 4 to 6 p.m. preferred appointment
- 1:48:30setting time. Appointment setting.
- 1:48:32Again, we'll talk about it properly very
- 1:48:33very soon. But your question you
- 1:48:35probably have is why do you need to do
- 1:48:37appointment setting on the phone if
- 1:48:39you're sending out emails? I've not seen
- 1:48:40anyone do that. Yeah, that's a fair
- 1:48:42question. Most people don't do that, but
- 1:48:44we do. The reason is that if you want to
- 1:48:46send a good email,
- 1:48:48think about it. One that spikes interest
- 1:48:51and get a high response rate, you
- 1:48:54usually don't just say, I sell leads to
- 1:48:57businesses. Can you take an extra 10 to
- 1:48:5915 jobs per month? That would be too
- 1:49:01direct, so little intrigue. they will
- 1:49:03get low reply rates and low interest. It
- 1:49:06is true that those people who are
- 1:49:08interested who aren't in a million will
- 1:49:11probably want to hop, not a million. I'm
- 1:49:13exaggerating, one in a thousand will
- 1:49:15probably want to hop on a meeting right
- 1:49:16away and maybe you'll even close pretty
- 1:49:18easy, but it's one in a thousand. It
- 1:49:20would take you with at this rate
- 1:49:2520 days. Yeah, 20 days to get one call.
- 1:49:30We're looking for more than that. Okay.
- 1:49:32Okay, like I said, I'm getting 15
- 1:49:33replies, 10 to 15 replies every day with
- 1:49:3550 messages and 50 follow-ups. So, you
- 1:49:37want to do better than that. Uh, it's
- 1:49:40too low of heat rate, but an easing
- 1:49:41conversion to meeting, meaning that you
- 1:49:44need a high volume to get the same
- 1:49:45amount of replies. And the Gmail system
- 1:49:47simply is not fit for that. You need to
- 1:49:48change system, warm up your domains, do
- 1:49:50all that kind of stuff, and then you can
- 1:49:52send out a thousand emails a day and get
- 1:49:54one to two calls every day. Now, when
- 1:49:56you send an intriguing new high FOMO
- 1:49:59email on the other hand, like we want to
- 1:50:01send out, um you will have people that
- 1:50:05will answer yes or positively, but with
- 1:50:09so many questions that it will pretty
- 1:50:11much be impossible for you to convert
- 1:50:13them to a meeting without calling them.
- 1:50:15Uh and that's exactly what we call them
- 1:50:17on the phone. And really and really only
- 1:50:19then you have the opportunity to build
- 1:50:22rapport, make them open up, find their
- 1:50:24pain, magnify it, answer any questions
- 1:50:27or objections and then you can book them
- 1:50:30on the calendar for a meeting. So that's
- 1:50:32why our call to action is about giving
- 1:50:35us permission to call them and we don't
- 1:50:37say we don't just say we don't just send
- 1:50:39the link and tell them to book via
- 1:50:40email. There's just so much trust that
- 1:50:42needs to be built, pain that needs to be
- 1:50:44discovered before these people will be
- 1:50:46ready to hop on a call. Which is why
- 1:50:48appointment setting is so so important.
- 1:50:51And in my opinion, honest humble
- 1:50:53opinion, that's the only way you can
- 1:50:55make this work without sending a massive
- 1:50:57volume of emails out. Otherwise, go with
- 1:51:01another system, not this one. But that
- 1:51:03would not be beginner friendly and that
- 1:51:05would not be uh ready in three days. So
- 1:51:08now, paid ads. Paid ads very important.
- 1:51:11This uh that I'm going to tell you is
- 1:51:14everything that I learned after spending
- 1:51:15$12,000 in um paid ads alone just for
- 1:51:19client acquisition. Okay, over the past
- 1:51:21year for the agents. I first running the
- 1:51:24ads last August 2025. So less than a
- 1:51:27year ago, uh after we made $10,000 in
- 1:51:30July. So, I do not recommend running ads
- 1:51:33before you're making at least $5,000 a
- 1:51:36month in net profit and are willing to
- 1:51:38spend a minimum of $3,000 per month. I'm
- 1:51:43personally not going to run ads for my
- 1:51:45agency until I can comfortably spend
- 1:51:48$6,000 a month. Now, why is that? And
- 1:51:51that's that's because I realized that
- 1:51:53email, cold calls, and SMS are like a
- 1:51:55shotgun. wide heating area, mid to short
- 1:51:58range. Great for small animals. Even if
- 1:52:01one of the thousands of pieces of the
- 1:52:04bullet of a shotgun hits the animal, you
- 1:52:07go yourself a prey. You're going to eat
- 1:52:08dinner. Easy. Ads on the other end are
- 1:52:12like a sniper. And your creatives are a
- 1:52:1550 caliber bullet. Like this big boy
- 1:52:18right here. You wouldn't use that to
- 1:52:21hunt chickens, right? No, you use it for
- 1:52:25bears, elks, and overall big animals.
- 1:52:28Not just because it's big enough to take
- 1:52:31the animal down, and you need something
- 1:52:32big for those guys, but also because
- 1:52:34they're freaking expensive. So, the meat
- 1:52:37that you get in return, the animal needs
- 1:52:39to be worth it. A single bullet like
- 1:52:41that can costs
- 1:52:43literally over $6, $6 to $9. I can buy a
- 1:52:47roasted chicken for $6. Matter of fact,
- 1:52:50that's what I got today for lunch. and I
- 1:52:52don't have to hunt it or cook it myself.
- 1:52:54So, logically, it wouldn't make sense
- 1:52:56for me to spend that for a chicken to go
- 1:53:00hunt the chicken. Okay? So, in clients
- 1:53:02terms, back to the clients, not in
- 1:53:04hunting terms, uh ads are the best at
- 1:53:07attracting whales, big clients. I'm
- 1:53:09talking about companies that have 15 30k
- 1:53:12a month in budget to spend on leads
- 1:53:14alone. That's what you need. Clients who
- 1:53:17want volume and send you messages like
- 1:53:19this. What do you need for me to get us
- 1:53:21up to that $20,000 a month budget? We're
- 1:53:23ready to buy customers is asking me, how
- 1:53:26can I spend more money with you?
- 1:53:30Most com most agencies dream about this.
- 1:53:32And yes, the truth is there really are
- 1:53:34people that exist like this, but you
- 1:53:37don't, you know, uh do that usually
- 1:53:40through emails and through uh cold
- 1:53:43calling. You don't get to them and SMS
- 1:53:45don't get to them. You need to run ads.
- 1:53:48And once you do attract these people
- 1:53:50through ads, you'll see that they're
- 1:53:53actually much easier to attract and
- 1:53:55convert than your average Joe.
- 1:53:59Everybody knows that lowpaying clients
- 1:54:01are also the biggest pain in the ass and
- 1:54:03high paying clients are easier to work
- 1:54:05with. So you just need right now to have
- 1:54:07enough money to buy that sniper and
- 1:54:10afford the bullets. which is why I want
- 1:54:12to wait until I have sixk a month. So to
- 1:54:15spend just on ads so I can spend $300 a
- 1:54:18day, get one call per day and have a guy
- 1:54:21like that who's willing to spend 10 20k.
- 1:54:23That's the honestly in my opinion the
- 1:54:25only good move for ads. Um as a
- 1:54:29beginner, okay, if I went back, yes, I
- 1:54:31made a lot of money through ads. Uh our
- 1:54:33August or first 30K month last year came
- 1:54:36through ads pretty much most of it. All
- 1:54:39of it pretty much. and uh and we that
- 1:54:42was a great return on investment
- 1:54:44considering we only spent 12k total.
- 1:54:46Then month maybe we spent 3k and we made
- 1:54:4930k including the backend revenue from
- 1:54:51the clients that we generated with that
- 1:54:53campaign. So it's great. Um but you know
- 1:54:58I if I went back I would go into emails
- 1:55:00of a good double down into SMS something
- 1:55:02like that. So, uh, on a second note,
- 1:55:04obviously I would not go for big clients
- 1:55:06before having service delivery dialed in
- 1:55:08testimonials and a good stack of social
- 1:55:10proof because you're just going to waste
- 1:55:11money. These people want to see the
- 1:55:12social proof, these people want to see a
- 1:55:14good dialed in service and you need to
- 1:55:16be good at causing them. So, the same
- 1:55:18way you've never hunt bears if you've
- 1:55:21never been hunting before because it's
- 1:55:22pretty dangerous. U, you wouldn't want
- 1:55:25to get into big big whales right away.
- 1:55:27So, with it in mind, this is how you
- 1:55:29want to structure your campaigns.
- 1:55:31Starting with the ad creatives. So as we
- 1:55:34clearly define array, the goal of our
- 1:55:36ads is to attract big clients. For that
- 1:55:38reason, I recommend creating a new ICP
- 1:55:41document fully tailored to the whale
- 1:55:44client persona. So not just dentists,
- 1:55:46for example, but dentists above $2
- 1:55:50million a year and with over $10,000 a
- 1:55:52month in marketing budget because they
- 1:55:54think very differently than your average
- 1:55:56dentist. They're small companies in the
- 1:55:58same industry. I mean, instead of
- 1:56:00bargaining bargaining on price, they'll
- 1:56:02ask you how fast they can start
- 1:56:03delivering. Instead of telling you that
- 1:56:05they want to test you out, they'll ask
- 1:56:06you how much volume can you handle per
- 1:56:09month. So, you need to speak exactly to
- 1:56:11what they want. Now, the most important
- 1:56:13thing with these guys is to be direct in
- 1:56:15your ads. Say exactly what you'll do for
- 1:56:17them. Show proof and then how the
- 1:56:19process of working with you works.
- 1:56:21That's it. That simple. Sure, you need
- 1:56:23to make the sure that the offer sounds
- 1:56:26new and persuasive, but you don't need
- 1:56:28to reinvent the wheel at all. It doesn't
- 1:56:30need to be this flashy thing. So, I'm
- 1:56:33not going to get into ad creatives that
- 1:56:35is proven uh that is proven and that if
- 1:56:38you're in a position to afford it, you
- 1:56:39can plug into your business in as little
- 1:56:41as 24 hours. So, I know this video is
- 1:56:43about starting, but if you have the cash
- 1:56:44and you want to get get this going, get
- 1:56:46these whales, you know, you can do it,
- 1:56:48okay? And even if you can't afford it
- 1:56:50right now, eventually, believe me, you
- 1:56:52will scale and you need to believe it
- 1:56:54yourself. So, you should still watch
- 1:56:56this section for when the time comes
- 1:56:58because it's super super valuable. And
- 1:57:00if you're completely new to ads, I'll be
- 1:57:02very transparent. Uh this, you know,
- 1:57:05creating winning ads is a complex tax.
- 1:57:08It's a complex task. It's not something
- 1:57:10that someone learns in a day. And I will
- 1:57:12not take on in this course this task of
- 1:57:15teaching you exactly how to create
- 1:57:16everything about winning ads. It's
- 1:57:18something I've been learning for the
- 1:57:19past three four years. Um and also
- 1:57:21there's other videos go you know on this
- 1:57:23channel that go deeper about you know um
- 1:57:26just about ads and I will go deeper in
- 1:57:29it and I will post more about it in the
- 1:57:31next videos but for now before you write
- 1:57:33any script for ads I do think even for
- 1:57:37emails even for everything or anything
- 1:57:40copy anything sales message you should
- 1:57:42buy and read this small quick book
- 1:57:44called take their money by Kyle
- 1:57:46Milligan. uh that book will change the
- 1:57:49way you look at words and the words you
- 1:57:50use um will literally change. You'll
- 1:57:53look at the words you use in a different
- 1:57:55way. Uh after reading it, you'll be able
- 1:57:57to look past the actual words and
- 1:58:00instead you'll have the skill to go
- 1:58:02deeper and see the true intentions
- 1:58:04behind his work, these words. And with
- 1:58:06practice, you learn how to use them to
- 1:58:08evoke the right emotions in the viewer
- 1:58:09and reader and persuade them to take the
- 1:58:11action you want, which is
- 1:58:13copyrightiting. By the way, the this
- 1:58:15channel was dedicated to copyrighting,
- 1:58:17so I have a lot of background on that.
- 1:58:20Uh, so let's start with winning ad
- 1:58:22formats. Okay, so do you want to do
- 1:58:23picture ads or video ads? UC ads or
- 1:58:25spokesperson, AI avatars? What about AI
- 1:58:28pictures with Hicksfield? There's so
- 1:58:30many options out there nowadays. And the
- 1:58:32reason it can feel overwhelming is that
- 1:58:35they all work. That's the problem. It's
- 1:58:36not like one is [ __ ] and the other one
- 1:58:38is there. No, they all work. So, it's
- 1:58:40true. You'll find people who had success
- 1:58:42with all of the ad formats above. But my
- 1:58:45job here is to use my personal
- 1:58:47experience and knowledge to go straight
- 1:58:49for the best best converting one to
- 1:58:52attract those high spenders that we want
- 1:58:54to attract. And when we put it like
- 1:58:55that, you know, I wouldn't say they all
- 1:58:58work the same. It's very easy for me to
- 1:59:00pick the best format and that is direct
- 1:59:02response talking head video ads with the
- 1:59:06founder as spokesperson. That is what
- 1:59:08you need to do. So, let's break it down.
- 1:59:10Direct response just means that you're
- 1:59:12going to ask them to take an action in
- 1:59:13the ad. Any direct response sales,
- 1:59:16direct response copy, direct response
- 1:59:17marketing, that's all that is. You're
- 1:59:19asking them to take an action. You're
- 1:59:21not just doing awareness, you know,
- 1:59:23showing them your brand logo. Hopefully,
- 1:59:25they remember it, but you want them to
- 1:59:27take an action right there and then,
- 1:59:29most likely clicking the button below.
- 1:59:31And then talking head simply means that
- 1:59:34you record the ad with a fixed phone or
- 1:59:35camera and you'll be looking right into
- 1:59:37the camera kind of reporter style kind
- 1:59:39of like if you this was in a loom this
- 1:59:41would be the this would be talking head
- 1:59:43you know sitting down the camera is
- 1:59:45still looking at you straight in the
- 1:59:47eyes and I'm talking the intro was a
- 1:59:48talking head okay uh and you will be the
- 1:59:51one to speak because so you are the
- 1:59:54spokesperson but can't you just use AI
- 1:59:56for the avatar answer is yes you could
- 2:00:00But in my humble experience, my ads
- 2:00:03always performed better than with an AI
- 2:00:05avatar. Now, don't get me wrong, can
- 2:00:07still work. But it's not necessary if
- 2:00:09you can record yourself. Think about it.
- 2:00:11If you were looking for a lead
- 2:00:12generation company to send to spend $10
- 2:00:14to $20,000 a month with, okay, like
- 2:00:16these high spenders are, would you trust
- 2:00:19an AI avatar or would you want to see
- 2:00:21the founder putting his face on it?
- 2:00:23Right? You would put the founder. So,
- 2:00:25next, let's address something you're
- 2:00:27probably giving too much importance to
- 2:00:28right now, which is I guarantee you're
- 2:00:30putting too much importance to this.
- 2:00:31That's editing. You definitely don't
- 2:00:33need to spend any money animating your
- 2:00:35ads or making the editing look super
- 2:00:37clean. None of that. That's not what the
- 2:00:39big clients care about. Not at all. My
- 2:00:41best performing ads are in squared
- 2:00:42format with me talking over canvas
- 2:00:44slides just like this. Okay? As the war
- 2:00:47as I speak, the words change and I show
- 2:00:49some stuff. Nobody's doing it. It's
- 2:00:51super easy and it works. Okay? And I'll
- 2:00:54show you actually uh one uh soon or
- 2:00:57maybe not. I don't think I'll get I'll
- 2:00:59show you the script, but I don't have
- 2:01:00the video pulled up, but it's in this
- 2:01:02format right here. Uh but now that we
- 2:01:04got this small stuff out of the way,
- 2:01:06let's get into the big stuff. How to
- 2:01:07write 50 caliber ad scripts. I like the
- 2:01:10sound of that. Okay, we're going to take
- 2:01:12down a bear, a whale, elk with that.
- 2:01:14Okay, so like I already said, I can't
- 2:01:16get into the exact psychology behind
- 2:01:18everything in ads cuz that would take us
- 2:01:21another five hours and that would go
- 2:01:23past the purpose of this video. Also,
- 2:01:26considering how many people here will
- 2:01:27probably start with email with ads right
- 2:01:29away. So, I have this free course on
- 2:01:31this channel so far. I will put more,
- 2:01:33but this goes deeper into uh the
- 2:01:36psychology behind it. And if you're
- 2:01:37interested in running ads, definitely
- 2:01:40watch that. Even for service delivery,
- 2:01:44if you know you're going to get your
- 2:01:45clients leads through ads, for example,
- 2:01:47we do it through meta ads, watch that
- 2:01:50video cuz that psychology
- 2:01:53still ties into
- 2:01:56uh into B2C ads. Every every sort of ad
- 2:02:01script uh you will need to know all of
- 2:02:04that. So, I would just say after this,
- 2:02:06if you have some time, go into it. Uh
- 2:02:08it's a couple years old but the good
- 2:02:10thing about copyrightiting is that human
- 2:02:12psychology doesn't change. Offers angles
- 2:02:14and unique mechanisms do but a structure
- 2:02:17but not the structure of a winning
- 2:02:18script. Okay. So here's a few example.
- 2:02:21Here's an example from one of my recent
- 2:02:23successful ads that I ran for my agency.
- 2:02:25Style talking head. I was a spokesperson
- 2:02:27editing canvas slides format squared
- 2:02:30setting where I live headline. No
- 2:02:33headline. So, niche call out. Instead of
- 2:02:36paying for shared leads or hiring an
- 2:02:38agency to gamble with your money, how
- 2:02:39would you like to offer? You see, after
- 2:02:42helping over
- 2:02:4590 people just like you, not you don't
- 2:02:47want to say people, you say, for
- 2:02:48example, dentists just like you generate
- 2:02:50over 4,000 qualified leads and close
- 2:02:53hundreds of jobs. We found a new way to
- 2:02:55fill up your calendar with real
- 2:02:56homeowners without you paying for any
- 2:02:58upfront fees, ad spend, monthly
- 2:03:00retainers, $297 a month, AI systems.
- 2:03:03These are non-statements. So all things
- 2:03:06that or alternatives that they might
- 2:03:09pick or tried in the past or things
- 2:03:12they're considering um or things they
- 2:03:14don't like or any of that BS. And if you
- 2:03:17give me 15 seconds, I'm going to explain
- 2:03:18to you exactly how it works. Then we
- 2:03:21have a first, next, then structure. So
- 2:03:24here's how we explain our mechanism.
- 2:03:26Which means that if your facetoface
- 2:03:27close rate on appointments is anywhere
- 2:03:29above 6%, it's mathematically impossible
- 2:03:31for you to be unprofitable working with
- 2:03:33us. But don't take it from me. Look at
- 2:03:34our client's results. Here we go into
- 2:03:36proof. Why would client one spend almost
- 2:03:3820k with us over the past four months if
- 2:03:40it was unprofitable? He wouldn't. In
- 2:03:41fact, he's on 2.3x profit ROI and he
- 2:03:44scaled his business from 4,40K a month
- 2:03:46in February to 145k in April. Same thing
- 2:03:49with client number two. Whatever. You
- 2:03:51can see more before the next page, but
- 2:03:52we had no crazy contracts or hidden
- 2:03:55fees. all those non-statements think
- 2:03:57that they don't want the opposite of
- 2:04:00benefits. Okay, so downsides of other
- 2:04:04alternatives, you just pay for what you
- 2:04:06get and if you're not happy, you're free
- 2:04:08to leave. So if you'd like to apply,
- 2:04:10call to action, click below to speak
- 2:04:12with us and see if this is for you. Now,
- 2:04:14let's do some fun work and break down
- 2:04:15the script line by line. Okay, so um
- 2:04:20here, what are we doing here? Instead of
- 2:04:22paying for shared leads or hiring an
- 2:04:23agent to camp what we're saying here
- 2:04:25after we call out we want to talk to we
- 2:04:27always need to do that in ads we need to
- 2:04:30tell them instead of common alternative
- 2:04:34instead of something you heard all the
- 2:04:36time instead of something you hate how
- 2:04:39about this new offer that's why it's
- 2:04:42hooking
- 2:04:44here we want to put some authority and
- 2:04:45social proof so after helping excess
- 2:04:47people in your niche just like you so
- 2:04:50after helping over ex people is
- 2:04:52authority. So build social proof, trust
- 2:04:55and then you see just like you here
- 2:04:58we're tapping into the emotion of the
- 2:05:00alter ego of anybody. Anybody means it's
- 2:05:03so easy that anybody can do it. If you
- 2:05:06read the book Kyle by Kyle Milligan take
- 2:05:09their money you'll you'll see that uh
- 2:05:11generate over xxqualified leads. Again,
- 2:05:14that's uh desira, you know, desirable
- 2:05:17outcome
- 2:05:18and um big a lot of leads. Desirable
- 2:05:23outcome big and builds trust. We found a
- 2:05:26new way emotion of new. It needs to come
- 2:05:28across as new to fill a calendar with
- 2:05:31real homeowners without all these other
- 2:05:34things. You already said these are known
- 2:05:35statements. So, alternatives uh to your
- 2:05:38offer or things they've tried in the
- 2:05:40past and didn't work. And what this does
- 2:05:42is it gives them hope. That's what it
- 2:05:44does. The emotion is of hope. You give
- 2:05:47them hope that there's might be
- 2:05:48something out there, a new way to
- 2:05:51fulfill their desire through us. So
- 2:05:55that's why they keep watching. And if
- 2:05:57you give me 15 seconds, I'll tell you
- 2:05:59exactly how it works. Now here there's
- 2:06:01not too much emotion as you'll see here
- 2:06:03in the in the the breakdown. The
- 2:06:07simplest breakdown would be this. So
- 2:06:09first mechanism step number one and its
- 2:06:11benefits. Next mechanism number two and
- 2:06:13its benefits and then mechanism number
- 2:06:14three and its benefits. What some people
- 2:06:16do is before getting into the mechanism
- 2:06:19they'll say they'll put a call to action
- 2:06:21here. So call to action number one. So
- 2:06:24click down here if you want to learn
- 2:06:25more and if you give me 15 seconds I'll
- 2:06:27tell you exactly how it works. So at
- 2:06:29least if someone is ready to click you
- 2:06:31already tell them what the action is and
- 2:06:33they will go. While if someone needs
- 2:06:34more information is not ready they will
- 2:06:36keep watching. So after that you um want
- 2:06:39to get into some proof of ROI or
- 2:06:42predictable outcome. So that's where I
- 2:06:45said which means that if your face to
- 2:06:46face close rate on appointments is
- 2:06:48anywhere above 6% it's mathematically
- 2:06:50impossible for you to be unprofitable
- 2:06:52working with us. What that does it
- 2:06:54creates trust. It tells them it's safe
- 2:06:56and predictable which are two very
- 2:06:57important emotions in uh Kyle Milligan's
- 2:07:01system.
- 2:07:03then social proof case study one case
- 2:07:05study two or testimonials and you can
- 2:07:06see we're proof in the next page but we
- 2:07:08have no common downsides or
- 2:07:10alternatives. So if you'd like to apply
- 2:07:12the link below and that's the final call
- 2:07:14to action. So you now have everything
- 2:07:16you need to write your first winning ad
- 2:07:18today. Just test two or three different
- 2:07:20hooks. In that video uh I go over how to
- 2:07:22create more hooks, different hook
- 2:07:24styles, what works. So all you have to
- 2:07:26do is first of all use the info in your
- 2:07:29ICP sheet and just fill out the
- 2:07:31template. It's that simple. And that's
- 2:07:33why you always need to have your ICP U
- 2:07:35market sheet. Like I said, you already
- 2:07:37have the template up here. And if you're
- 2:07:39familiar with running ads, you know that
- 2:07:40the creative is literally 90% of the
- 2:07:43work. So, I won't get into how to set up
- 2:07:45a campaign on Meta because that's always
- 2:07:47changes. There's tons of videos of that
- 2:07:49and there's so many updates that come
- 2:07:51out that it doesn't even matter. But
- 2:07:52this what you just learned that
- 2:07:54template, that script, uh that's
- 2:07:57forever. Okay? When you just learn this
- 2:07:58forever. It will convert in any market,
- 2:08:00any niche, any offer. you just have to
- 2:08:02adapt it. So regardless of what stage um
- 2:08:05your agency is at nowadays, you now know
- 2:08:08how easy it is to write ads that attract
- 2:08:10and convert to big spenders. So you have
- 2:08:12you can have the confidence that after
- 2:08:14you get your free clients, you want to
- 2:08:15have that push to get to 30 40 $40,000 a
- 2:08:18month where you can spend easily 6K a
- 2:08:21month in ads because that's where you go
- 2:08:24to the next level when you have
- 2:08:25information like this and you run ads
- 2:08:27and you just, you know, start tracking
- 2:08:29those big whales like we have done.
- 2:08:30Okay, so that's done. Let's look at the
- 2:08:32final piece of the client acquisition
- 2:08:33puzzle before getting into sales, which
- 2:08:37is content. Now, I included content in
- 2:08:40the client acquisition chapter because
- 2:08:43although it's very unlikely to help you
- 2:08:45acquire clients on its own, especially
- 2:08:47in the local business niche, it
- 2:08:48magnifies everything else that you do.
- 2:08:51So, or more than magnifies, I heard Alex
- 2:08:54say something about this the other day.
- 2:08:55It lubricates everything. your whole
- 2:08:57acquisition system gets lubricated with
- 2:09:00content. Uh so every ad you run, every
- 2:09:03SMS you send, every email, every
- 2:09:05conversation you have, anything, you
- 2:09:06have a higher chances of closing when
- 2:09:08you have content. And it's easier for
- 2:09:10you to close when you have content. By
- 2:09:12content, I mean any public piece of
- 2:09:13content of video or image
- 2:09:18that provides value, shows proof and
- 2:09:20builds trust. Whether your ICP is mostly
- 2:09:22on Instagram, LinkedIn or YouTube, you
- 2:09:24absolutely want to have content out
- 2:09:26there. Definitely focus on one. Don't
- 2:09:29split yourself too thin. Uh focus on
- 2:09:31building one channel. So that's YouTube.
- 2:09:33If you want to go all in on YouTube,
- 2:09:35just only post videos on YouTube and
- 2:09:37stay consistent with that. For us in our
- 2:09:38agency, that's Instagram and Facebook.
- 2:09:40That's together, right? It's one account
- 2:09:42we share both at the same time. And our
- 2:09:44goal and what we try to do is stay
- 2:09:47consistent and post two reels on per
- 2:09:50week. uh so that people see that we are
- 2:09:52live and active as we reach out to new
- 2:09:55people as new people find us as we get
- 2:09:57referrals and stuff like that. So as you
- 2:09:59can see this video get two to 500 views
- 2:10:02each but I guarantee you they help us
- 2:10:04cause more clients. So first of all not
- 2:10:06many a why first of all not many agency
- 2:10:08owners are confident enough to speak on
- 2:10:10a camera like I do and record
- 2:10:11themselves. So if you do that alone it
- 2:10:14gives you an edge. Secondly and builds
- 2:10:16trust. Secondly, very few have a good
- 2:10:19camera, microphone, a good recording
- 2:10:22environment. Uh so that also gives you
- 2:10:25an edge and finally even fewer know how
- 2:10:28to script and communicate the
- 2:10:30information in a clear and valuable way.
- 2:10:32So when you do that, you have another
- 2:10:34edge and people you had to decide who to
- 2:10:36pick between the BPU over the other
- 2:10:38person because you have all of this. So
- 2:10:40if you can do that, you'll be setting
- 2:10:41yourself apart from all the other
- 2:10:42agencies already. I definitely think the
- 2:10:45most valuable the most successful
- 2:10:47agencies they all have they all have
- 2:10:49content on Instagram. Even if it gets
- 2:10:51two views, they all have content. And
- 2:10:53why do you think they do that? Because
- 2:10:55it works. So you have time right now.
- 2:10:57You're not running a billion dollar a
- 2:10:59month company. You have time. You can
- 2:11:01post some content. What to post?
- 2:11:03Testimonials, case studies, founder
- 2:11:05stories, breakout videos. You can
- 2:11:07literally take those, put them in your u
- 2:11:09the ones you have in your confirmation
- 2:11:10page, put them on Instagram and maybe
- 2:11:12edit them a little bit or redo them with
- 2:11:15a better tighter script. Objection
- 2:11:17handling videos ROI calculations simple.
- 2:11:20Here's an example. Talking head loom
- 2:11:23style format is squared at home in the
- 2:11:26meeting room. The angle is ROI of leads
- 2:11:29ICP residential contractors link
- 2:11:32bioachet that's the call to action. So,
- 2:11:34most contractors think paying for leads
- 2:11:36is not a sustainable way to grow their
- 2:11:37business. Unpeel to do the math. Let's
- 2:11:39assume you're a fancing contractor and
- 2:11:41you have a $5,000 a month to spend on
- 2:11:42leads. Say your average fancy
- 2:11:44installation is $7,000 and you have a
- 2:11:4630% profit margins. Our clients convert
- 2:11:4990% of the leads into appointments. And
- 2:11:51of those estimates, say you have an
- 2:11:53average 30% close rate. Now, considering
- 2:11:55a 70% $70 cost per exclusive qualified
- 2:11:57lead, at the end of the month, you find
- 2:11:59yourself with so much in revenue and so
- 2:12:00much in net profit, which is net return
- 2:12:02on your investment. And trust me when I
- 2:12:04say that these numbers are conservative.
- 2:12:06We have clients closing 60%. Just like
- 2:12:08Eric right here already closed three of
- 2:12:10the five appointments from our leads.
- 2:12:12When you say [ __ ] like this, you always
- 2:12:14need to show proof. So, that's what I
- 2:12:16would do with the video. And if you
- 2:12:17could do that, that would put you on
- 2:12:19excess returns on your investment. And
- 2:12:21that doesn't include the additional
- 2:12:22value that a new customer brings into
- 2:12:24your business like referrals, reviews,
- 2:12:26and so forth. So, if you're even
- 2:12:28remotely interested, click the link in
- 2:12:30bio to get the full info and book a
- 2:12:31night to speak with us. Simple. Okay.
- 2:12:35And uh editing, I will just while I
- 2:12:38while I go over this, I will just show
- 2:12:40on a loom style like this is a loom
- 2:12:42style. I will show the
- 2:12:45ROI tracking sheet that I showed you
- 2:12:47earlier in the offer where I can show
- 2:12:50how much their marketing budget is, cost
- 2:12:51per lead and stuff like that. That's
- 2:12:53super super simple. Will it get abused?
- 2:12:55No. Will it work and convert better for
- 2:12:57me lubricate my whole system? Yes. So
- 2:13:00that's really it. Now the final type of
- 2:13:02content that you want uh to consistently
- 2:13:04be creating and leverage is obviously uh
- 2:13:07the one in your funnel that you should
- 2:13:08already have and that's breakout videos.
- 2:13:10those videos based on how sales goes, uh
- 2:13:14based on your close rate, based on the
- 2:13:16calls that you have, you will get more
- 2:13:18ideas for breakout videos. And as those
- 2:13:20ideas come up, you want to make more of
- 2:13:22those videos. Again, post them on
- 2:13:24Instagram, post them on YouTube, but
- 2:13:26make that type of video because they're
- 2:13:27a key part of your sales process and you
- 2:13:29will definitely benefit from posting
- 2:13:30that um on YouTube specifically. But if
- 2:13:34for example, your ICP is on your
- 2:13:35LinkedIn, post them there. Okay, so that
- 2:13:37said,
- 2:13:39we can now get into sales. If you are
- 2:13:42tired, if you need a break, if you need
- 2:13:44to assimilate to this information, take
- 2:13:46a little break, take five, 10 minutes, I
- 2:13:49will do the same to be honest and then
- 2:13:51we'll get into sales because there's
- 2:13:53still a lot that we need to cover if you
- 2:13:54want to close your first client with
- 2:13:56within 3 to 7 days. So, let's get
- 2:13:59straight into that. All right, so let's
- 2:14:01carry on, shall we? Now, obviously, you
- 2:14:04can't close clients unless you're
- 2:14:05somewhat decent at sales. Now, to be
- 2:14:08clear, I want to be very, very clear
- 2:14:09here. The point of this video, this
- 2:14:12section of the video is not to turn you
- 2:14:13into a top tier closer. Uh, obviously,
- 2:14:16there's people with videos hours and
- 2:14:18hours and hours long just about sales.
- 2:14:20You should watch hours and hours and
- 2:14:22hours worth of sales calls to become
- 2:14:23good at it. But the point of this video
- 2:14:26is to give you just as much information
- 2:14:27as you can grasp and the confidence you
- 2:14:30need to close your next client. and
- 2:14:32start scaling within the next three to
- 2:14:34seven days. And like I mentioned before,
- 2:14:36my business partner is the one who's
- 2:14:38mainly in charge of sales in our
- 2:14:39company. So if this is the area that you
- 2:14:41really like to get the most help with,
- 2:14:43you can book the free 30-minute
- 2:14:44consultation call that you get once you
- 2:14:46join my uh go level thing with him
- 2:14:49instead of me. So you guys can talk
- 2:14:51about sales or you can just ask him
- 2:14:53questions in the chat for free. So now
- 2:14:55we're going to look at appointment
- 2:14:56setting. So framework, script, and an
- 2:14:58appointment setting call and then sales
- 2:14:59call. So, framework, script, and a live
- 2:15:01sales call. So, I say let's get started
- 2:15:04with appointment setting. Now, as you've
- 2:15:05seen so far in this video, appointment
- 2:15:08setting plays a crucial role when it
- 2:15:10comes to scaling the agency regardless
- 2:15:12of what acquisition uh system you pick.
- 2:15:14Even if you go with paid ads, you still
- 2:15:16need to call the leads that come in um
- 2:15:18and do a discovery call with them. So,
- 2:15:20you follow pretty much the same
- 2:15:22techniques that you would follow in an
- 2:15:24automating call. So here's the exact
- 2:15:26structure and script that you can adapt
- 2:15:28and follow for your offer. So we start
- 2:15:30with an opener. So we just want to open
- 2:15:33a convers conversation easy. Hey, is
- 2:15:36this name perfect? Yeah, this is Matia
- 2:15:39I'm quoting about and then you mention
- 2:15:41the offer that you said either in your
- 2:15:43SMS, in your email, in your ads. Do you
- 2:15:45recall that? And they say yes. Uh, cool.
- 2:15:48To be honest, I reached out because
- 2:15:49we're getting very good demand in the
- 2:15:51area, but our guys are booked out and
- 2:15:53are able to handle it. So, we've been
- 2:15:55looking for a solid crew that can take
- 2:15:56on the work or any other angle that you
- 2:15:59you've been using for your specific
- 2:16:02offer. So, for us, it's for construction
- 2:16:04companies. So, this is the angle that we
- 2:16:05use when we do our opening. Then, we're
- 2:16:08going to do probing questions. So we
- 2:16:10these are going to be questions that are
- 2:16:12meant to find out uh more about their
- 2:16:15situation, find out more about uh their
- 2:16:19pain to then eventually go into the
- 2:16:21problem discovery where we have them
- 2:16:22pretty much tell us what the problem is.
- 2:16:25So they identify. So probing questions
- 2:16:28cool. So do you mind if I ask you a few
- 2:16:30questions to better understand if we can
- 2:16:32actually help you? Uh so what are you
- 2:16:34doing right now to get more jobs or how
- 2:16:36long have you been running that? and we
- 2:16:37just ask these questions to get as much
- 2:16:39context and much information as we can
- 2:16:41from them and build these um report this
- 2:16:44little connection. Obviously, I
- 2:16:46definitely recommend looking up on
- 2:16:47YouTube probing questions. Sales, look
- 2:16:49for people like Jeremy Miner, look for
- 2:16:51the best of the best and learn sales
- 2:16:54from them. But this is what we're using
- 2:16:55as an example. So then we're going to do
- 2:16:57problem discovery. So I mean if method
- 2:17:00that they're using isn't bad, but what
- 2:17:02you go you're looking at something else
- 2:17:04right now. Okay. And then if they
- 2:17:07whatever answer they uh they say we want
- 2:17:10to go a little deeper. So we go into
- 2:17:11something like meaning what we asking
- 2:17:13questions like that to get more more out
- 2:17:15of them and have them pretty much tell
- 2:17:17us the problem and the pain. Then we
- 2:17:20transition into the call. Obviously the
- 2:17:22goal of an appointment setting call is
- 2:17:24to book a sales call with them. So okay
- 2:17:26so where do you want to be in six months
- 2:17:28from now? How far do you think you are
- 2:17:30from there? Right, man. Here's what I
- 2:17:31think I could I think here's what I
- 2:17:33think I could help based on what you
- 2:17:34told me about problem that they said. I
- 2:17:37feel like there's a real possibility we
- 2:17:38could help you um get there. Uh what I
- 2:17:40wanted to do is connect you with Noah uh
- 2:17:43who is my who is the the sales rep and
- 2:17:45he can dive deeper into uh where you are
- 2:17:48virtually where you want to be. Not the
- 2:17:49sales rep. We make him come across as a
- 2:17:51sales rep, but he's the business
- 2:17:53partner, the person who's in charge of
- 2:17:54sales. Um if we think we can help, he'll
- 2:17:57walk you through uh what that would look
- 2:17:58like. how does that sound? And they
- 2:18:01usually say sounds good. So, we just
- 2:18:02book a call with them and done. It's as
- 2:18:05simple as that. And now I'm going to
- 2:18:06show you one or two live appointment
- 2:18:08setting calls. Uh I'm going to put them
- 2:18:10right here on screen. Let's go.
- 2:18:14>> Ellen.
- 2:18:15>> Hey Jake. Can you hear me, man? This is
- 2:18:18um
- 2:18:19>> Yeah. I had uh sent you, you know, that
- 2:18:24you recall that.
- 2:18:26>> Oh, that this morning. [clears throat]
- 2:18:27>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This morning. this
- 2:18:29morning.
- 2:18:30>> Mhm.
- 2:18:30>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, pretty much what
- 2:18:32it is, man, full transparency is like we
- 2:18:34have a guy down in the area and he's
- 2:18:36getting a bit booked up. So, I know he
- 2:18:38really couldn't take that appointment,
- 2:18:39that estimate. So, we've just been
- 2:18:41scrambling around like, you know, trying
- 2:18:42to see guys who can actually like, you
- 2:18:43know, take on the work, do good work,
- 2:18:45can handle it. So, like would you say
- 2:18:46like you're open for like availability
- 2:18:48on the 30th and like can take on the
- 2:18:50work?
- 2:18:52>> You're talking about just look at it on
- 2:18:53the 30th.
- 2:18:54>> Yeah, it's on uh it's on the 30th for
- 2:18:56the for the estimate.
- 2:18:57>> Yeah. at 5.
- 2:18:59>> Yeah. Yeah, for five.
- 2:19:01>> Yeah, I think I saw that.
- 2:19:02>> Yeah. Do you think uh you'd be like
- 2:19:03available around that time?
- 2:19:06>> I could probably do that.
- 2:19:07>> Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Just just
- 2:19:09want to make sure. But uh I mean aside
- 2:19:13from that, obviously we want to vet our
- 2:19:16guys, make sure that, you know, if I'm
- 2:19:18giving it from my client to someone
- 2:19:19else, you know, I want to speak with
- 2:19:20them. So, I mean, what time would you
- 2:19:22say would be a decent time for us to
- 2:19:23connect like just in a bit more detail?
- 2:19:25So, like we can go over the scope of the
- 2:19:27project just sort of like what I've been
- 2:19:29doing for my guy down there, things like
- 2:19:30that. Like I mean, I have some time like
- 2:19:32either tomorrow or Monday. Just let me
- 2:19:35see like sort of what fits in both of
- 2:19:36our calendars.
- 2:19:39>> I mean, what do you what kind of
- 2:19:42business do you run? I mean, I'm just
- 2:19:43kind of wondering you just find leads
- 2:19:45and you sell them or how does that work?
- 2:19:46Yeah. So, how it works is like I I uh
- 2:19:48essentially like I run an exclusive lead
- 2:19:50genen business and I work with one to
- 2:19:52two contractors per area. So, when I
- 2:19:55reach out to you, I work with a guy in
- 2:19:56the area. We get about 20 to 30 leads a
- 2:19:58month. And you know, like it's very
- 2:20:00custom. So, like since it's not a huge
- 2:20:02huge uh company, if they get backed up,
- 2:20:05they'll be like, "Hey, you know, we need
- 2:20:06to turn leads off for right now because
- 2:20:08obviously I can't take on all the work.
- 2:20:09I want to get a few things settled." If
- 2:20:11they're traveling, you know how it is.
- 2:20:12Like, or if there's any reason for them
- 2:20:13to stop, we stop. And then obviously I
- 2:20:15want to keep the demand running in the
- 2:20:17area. So I've just been reaching out,
- 2:20:19you know, if that makes sense.
- 2:20:20>> Sure. I mean, do you pay per lead or do
- 2:20:21you pay how how does how does that work?
- 2:20:23>> Yeah. So yeah, it's a it's a per lead
- 2:20:25basis. Uh what that essentially means is
- 2:20:28that we qualify them. I don't know if
- 2:20:29you saw, but we budget qualify them
- 2:20:31urgency and homeowner address. So once
- 2:20:33they're all qualified, it really depends
- 2:20:35on how strict you want the filtering,
- 2:20:37but our leads are anywhere between like
- 2:20:39I would say 70 to 80. And then our
- 2:20:41average return of rorowaz. So that means
- 2:20:43after considering you know your margins
- 2:20:45yeah after your labor everything that
- 2:20:47materials let's say you're around 30 to
- 2:20:4840% on average what we're seeing after
- 2:20:51you
- 2:20:51>> talking about closing
- 2:20:52>> oh no no I'm talking about your profit
- 2:20:54yeah your profitability so I'm saying
- 2:20:56like we're seeing usually our guys have
- 2:20:57anywhere between 30 to 40% profitability
- 2:20:59on average and I'm saying with that uh
- 2:21:02we're seeing at around a 2.5 to 4x
- 2:21:05return on essentially return on lead
- 2:21:07spend. So anywhere between a 2.5 to 4x
- 2:21:10is what our usual guys get after
- 2:21:12considering all their margins and then
- 2:21:14what they pay us if that makes sense.
- 2:21:15But again I can go into a bit more
- 2:21:17detail. Uh
- 2:21:19>> so you don't so you don't really do you
- 2:21:21don't control price. All right.
- 2:21:23>> Sorry. One one more time.
- 2:21:25>> You don't control pricing. I mean
- 2:21:27>> yeah I don't I don't I don't control
- 2:21:28pricing. No. I essentially I just have
- 2:21:31them prepared for the quote price
- 2:21:33essentially beforehand if that makes
- 2:21:34sense. So, let's say like I let's say I
- 2:21:37sell a lead. Let's say I sell a lead for
- 2:21:38$70, right? I get that lead in for
- 2:21:40either $40 or $50 and then, you know, I
- 2:21:43sell it to one of my guys. That's
- 2:21:44essentially what I was doing with my guy
- 2:21:45down in the area. And he would go out,
- 2:21:47he would give the quote and essentially
- 2:21:49like that's that's how our entire
- 2:21:51structure works. And I guess the biggest
- 2:21:53niche about us is that we don't share
- 2:21:54our leads. And then also the fact that
- 2:21:57hey I just want to make sure that these
- 2:21:58guys who actually come in they have the
- 2:22:00money because I mean at the end of the
- 2:22:01day like the biggest thing is do they
- 2:22:03have the money and are they ready to
- 2:22:04move forward in a reasonable time frame
- 2:22:06like would you agree?
- 2:22:07>> Yeah.
- 2:22:08>> Yeah.
- 2:22:08>> Yeah. I see.
- 2:22:09>> So yeah.
- 2:22:10>> Um but
- 2:22:11>> so the the price of the lead is
- 2:22:14dependent upon the price of the project.
- 2:22:16No.
- 2:22:16>> Or how does that work?
- 2:22:17>> No. It's just simply yeah just it's
- 2:22:19simply between 70 to 80. Uh not not not
- 2:22:22depending on anything. Like if you got a
- 2:22:23really really big job, we're not going
- 2:22:24to charge you more for it, Nick. You
- 2:22:25know, that's your money. You're the one
- 2:22:27doing the job.
- 2:22:28>> Yeah.
- 2:22:29>> Yeah.
- 2:22:30>> Um, so I'm technically in Asheville. I
- 2:22:33mean, I'm from the Gastonia area now,
- 2:22:36but
- 2:22:37>> I mean it's not I mean it's not my
- 2:22:39supplier is actually in Gaston County,
- 2:22:40so that kind of I could kind of work out
- 2:22:42possibly on what [clears throat] kind of
- 2:22:43fence it is and stuff.
- 2:22:45>> No, I got I got you.
- 2:22:47>> I mean, do you think is it possible that
- 2:22:48you could find something in this area?
- 2:22:51Yeah, I would say that's more than
- 2:22:52probable. I mean like that's that's
- 2:22:54essentially our job. So how we actually
- 2:22:55get these leads is based off the zip
- 2:22:57codes. So you give me the zip codes
- 2:22:58you'd like to market in. You let me know
- 2:23:00the ones that you would like to exclude
- 2:23:02and then that's exa exactly you know
- 2:23:04that's how we provide them. But uh I
- 2:23:06think it would be very applicable for
- 2:23:08you like if you we like I said we open
- 2:23:09on a call just show you a bit more
- 2:23:10things in detail a bit of the you know
- 2:23:12like the pudding of what we've been
- 2:23:13getting for our guy and uh I mean yeah I
- 2:23:17would say anytime tomorrow or Monday
- 2:23:20would work decently for me.
- 2:23:24>> All right. I mean, you're just saying
- 2:23:26we'll just conversate more about just
- 2:23:28more details of what it takes and I
- 2:23:30mean, do I have to have a I don't know.
- 2:23:32Do you have a credit card on hand or do
- 2:23:33you just I just pay you? How does that
- 2:23:35work?
- 2:23:36>> Yes.
- 2:23:36>> Or do you just want to talk about it
- 2:23:37later?
- 2:23:38>> Yeah. I mean, it it would be more ideal,
- 2:23:39but I have no fine. I I have no problem
- 2:23:41answering your questions. Like I am a
- 2:23:42bit on a time crunch, but essentially
- 2:23:44like how it is is we're very we're very
- 2:23:48performance-based. Like I essentially I
- 2:23:50want to make sure the leads I provide to
- 2:23:53you, we scale up. So meaning what that
- 2:23:55means is that I how I set up my contract
- 2:23:58structure is from the first two to three
- 2:23:59leads if you don't like my leads and
- 2:24:01there's no reason you should work with
- 2:24:02me. So just to give you a bit of a
- 2:24:04breakdown of how we work, we don't share
- 2:24:06our leads. All of our leads are we have
- 2:24:10they we have an account
- 2:24:12>> with somebody else. The lead is mine.
- 2:24:14>> It's yours. And the second thing is is
- 2:24:16that we're very very big on you don't
- 2:24:18pay for garbage. So if you can't get a
- 2:24:20hold of a person, if it's not within
- 2:24:21your area, if they don't actually want a
- 2:24:23fence, then you shouldn't pay $70 for
- 2:24:25that at the end of the day.
- 2:24:26>> So like I
- 2:24:28>> Yeah, those those are our structures.
- 2:24:29And then the last thing is like they're
- 2:24:31scaling with you. I know if I can get
- 2:24:32you work and you're closing on them,
- 2:24:33it's a business relationship at the end
- 2:24:35of the day. So if you're getting work
- 2:24:36and you're closing on them, then
- 2:24:37obviously, you know, you're going to pay
- 2:24:38me for quite some time.
- 2:24:40>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:24:40>> For sure.
- 2:24:42>> Yeah. I mean, honestly, I have been
- 2:24:43looking for work. So that would I mean
- 2:24:45that that sounds good. I would like to
- 2:24:46find somebody reputable and
- 2:24:48>> um Angie I mean that a lot of the things
- 2:24:51that you said kind of answer some
- 2:24:53questions about so I've considered
- 2:24:54Angie's and Ang Andrews isn't Angie is
- 2:24:56kind of the opposite of that you know
- 2:24:57it's not
- 2:25:00>> I'm competing with other people if I go
- 2:25:01with Angie's and
- 2:25:03>> just stuff like that. Yeah. I mean the
- 2:25:06thing how anes and why they have you
- 2:25:07competing with other people that I mean
- 2:25:10the truth is like Angie's can get good
- 2:25:12leads but the reason that they do that
- 2:25:14is because I mean they they make more
- 2:25:15money selling it to everyone like
- 2:25:17whereas you know we're not Yeah. We're
- 2:25:19not as large as them. So our our
- 2:25:21advantage comes in the fact that you
- 2:25:23know people don't want to work with
- 2:25:24Andrew. They don't want to deal with
- 2:25:25shared leads. So
- 2:25:27>> yeah.
- 2:25:27>> And I don't and I don't want small like
- 2:25:29little jobs like you know what I'm
- 2:25:30saying? Like I Yeah, if it's a deep I
- 2:25:32mean if it's um I mean I noticed the one
- 2:25:34that you sent was I mean it's a small
- 2:25:35fans 100 to 200 feet. So that's
- 2:25:38>> that's okay. I mean that's not terrible.
- 2:25:40I mean I can make money on that. But
- 2:25:41>> yeah, we mainly
- 2:25:42>> I'm not trying to do just do repairs and
- 2:25:43I don't want crap job, you know.
- 2:25:45>> I I totally agree with you and I'm very
- 2:25:46happy about that. We mainly just shoot
- 2:25:48for full fence installations. And the
- 2:25:50reason for that is because the lead
- 2:25:52price to be honest with you, brother,
- 2:25:54like lead price is the exact same thing
- 2:25:55for repairs versus uh the full
- 2:25:58installations. and the full
- 2:25:59installation, they're just worth so much
- 2:26:01more of a bang for your buck. Like if
- 2:26:03you're getting a project size between 6
- 2:26:04to 8K and you know you have 30 to 40%
- 2:26:06margins and it's $70 on the lead and you
- 2:26:09know you're closing at around 40%. Then
- 2:26:11you know like we're profitable and we're
- 2:26:12doing two to 3x like that's that's
- 2:26:14really where we want to be.
- 2:26:16>> For sure.
- 2:26:18>> So
- 2:26:19>> um would you just text me your name and
- 2:26:20I mean maybe your business name and
- 2:26:22>> Yeah. I'm going to send you over
- 2:26:23>> Is this a cell phone number?
- 2:26:24>> Uh yeah. Someone sent you all that info
- 2:26:26via email and then uh you want to say we
- 2:26:30can maybe shoot for around maybe this
- 2:26:32time either tomorrow or Monday.
- 2:26:36>> 4:30 p.m.
- 2:26:38>> Yeah, let's let's shoot Monday. Is that
- 2:26:40okay?
- 2:26:40>> Yeah, that's perfect. Uh you want to say
- 2:26:434:30 4:35?
- 2:26:45>> Yeah, that sounds good.
- 2:26:46>> All right. So, I'll get you in for 4:30
- 2:26:48or 5:00 p.m. I'll send you the calendar
- 2:26:50invite, but what I'll also do is uh
- 2:26:53well, you said you you may like you can
- 2:26:55possibly take that lead uh down in, you
- 2:26:57know, in Gastonia or you would you like
- 2:27:01for me to just uh maybe what would you
- 2:27:04like to do with that?
- 2:27:06>> So, I don't do you have any idea what
- 2:27:08kind of fence it is?
- 2:27:09>> Yeah, it's going to be uh 200 I would
- 2:27:11say 100 to 200 foot, you know, wood
- 2:27:12privacy fence. Oh,
- 2:27:14>> okay.
- 2:27:15>> Yeah.
- 2:27:17All right. Um,
- 2:27:21>> can I just talk to you on Monday about
- 2:27:22that or do you
- 2:27:23>> Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine.
- 2:27:24You know, we we can wait till Monday.
- 2:27:26So, what I'll do is I'll send you over
- 2:27:27all of our info in regards to email. If
- 2:27:29you can check it out, that'd be great.
- 2:27:30And then the last thing I want to say,
- 2:27:31man, you know, we're both business
- 2:27:33owners. We know how it is with no shows.
- 2:27:35Like, if you if you if you if your time
- 2:27:37isn't available on Monday or something
- 2:27:38come up, I would appreciate you tell me
- 2:27:40because my calendar is packed. So, you
- 2:27:42can just tell me beforehand to let me
- 2:27:43know if anything comes up, you know,
- 2:27:44just, you know, just respect. Sure.
- 2:27:46>> Yeah. Same the same about leads, too. I
- 2:27:48mean, I I I definitely tend to respect
- 2:27:50that because I appreciate
- 2:27:51>> good leads. So,
- 2:27:53>> I got you, man. So, yeah. Looking
- 2:27:54forward to speaking with you on Monday,
- 2:27:55man. 4:30 to 5:00 p.m.
- 2:27:57>> Yeah, that sounds good. So, you're just
- 2:27:59going to email to the email that you we
- 2:28:01talked to on earlier and then if you
- 2:28:02just text me your name on here, then
- 2:28:03I'll just save your contact.
- 2:28:05>> Okay, perfect. Perfect. Yeah, I'll do
- 2:28:06that. No problem.
- 2:28:08>> All right, that sounds good. Thank you.
- 2:28:09>> All right, let me text you to see you.
- 2:28:10Perfect. Talk to you then. And once you
- 2:28:13got the appointment setting down, we
- 2:28:14want to get into the sales call. Now,
- 2:28:15closing sales calls um shouldn't be too
- 2:28:18hard for you if you selected the right
- 2:28:19model and the right offer. Should be
- 2:28:21pretty easy, much easier than closing a
- 2:28:23retainer offer. And once you manage to
- 2:28:25get people on a call with you, it should
- 2:28:26be fairly easy to close. So below I'll
- 2:28:29share the exact framework and script
- 2:28:30that you we use literally right now in
- 2:28:32the company so you can copy paste it for
- 2:28:34your offer adapt it and then we'll look
- 2:28:37at a uh live close that has closed
- 2:28:40hundreds of dollars up front as an
- 2:28:42upfront fee. So we'll see what that is.
- 2:28:44You'll see how much that is on the call
- 2:28:46and after watching this video you want
- 2:28:48to create your own uh script tailored to
- 2:28:51our uh tailored to your specific offer
- 2:28:53tip and and niche. Okay? So, keep in
- 2:28:55mind that the script is not meant to be
- 2:28:56followed word by word and it should just
- 2:28:59serve as a guideline, a guideline of
- 2:29:02what you're going to uh follow and
- 2:29:04specifically um especially a logic
- 2:29:06guideline of the stages, not even so
- 2:29:09much of the questions but the stages of
- 2:29:11the conversation. Okay, so let's get
- 2:29:13straight into it. First one is the
- 2:29:15connection stage. Okay, so you say
- 2:29:16something like, "Hey, this is uh you
- 2:29:19know Matia from Roquisition. It looked
- 2:29:21like you recently booked a call or
- 2:29:22calendar about possibly getting help
- 2:29:24with your marketing systems and leave
- 2:29:26flow so that you can get whatever
- 2:29:28results they said they wanted to get in
- 2:29:30the appointment setting call, right?
- 2:29:32They respond. We say, "Yeah, so when um
- 2:29:35you went through the ad or the post or
- 2:29:38whenever uh you received our email, what
- 2:29:40was it that um you saw that caused you
- 2:29:43to want to look into this further?" They
- 2:29:45respond, they respond and then Yeah. Uh
- 2:29:47makes sense. Now, this code is pretty
- 2:29:48much pretty basic. It's really more for
- 2:29:51us to find out about what you're using
- 2:29:52right now, what results you're getting
- 2:29:54compared to what you're wanting to see
- 2:29:57what that gap looks like and towards the
- 2:29:59end of the call if you feel like might
- 2:30:01be what you're looking for. We're going
- 2:30:02to talk about possible next steps. Uh
- 2:30:03would that help you? This is straight up
- 2:30:05taken from Jeremy Miners. So definitely
- 2:30:07recommend looking into him and then they
- 2:30:09respond and we say perfect and what are
- 2:30:11you hoping to get out of the call with
- 2:30:12us today just so we can have a better
- 2:30:14understanding and be on the same page.
- 2:30:16That was the connection stage. Then we
- 2:30:18go into the engagement stage. So we
- 2:30:20start with a little bit of situation
- 2:30:22awareness. So uh always we want to use
- 2:30:26neutral bridging like got it makes sense
- 2:30:28walk me through that whenever we go
- 2:30:30through these questions. We're not going
- 2:30:31to go through all of these questions of
- 2:30:32course because otherwise it would be
- 2:30:34like an interview. Uh but some of them
- 2:30:36and you know that's down to the exact
- 2:30:40close the closer and the exact prospect
- 2:30:42to understand which questions you want
- 2:30:44to ask at which specific time. Obviously
- 2:30:46at the end of the day that is the art of
- 2:30:47scales that is the sales that is the
- 2:30:49difference between a decent closer and a
- 2:30:51great closer. You are going to have uh
- 2:30:54better understanding and knowledge on
- 2:30:57what question to use at what time with
- 2:30:59what tone. That's really all it is. So
- 2:31:03questions for example walk me through
- 2:31:04what you're doing right now for goal.
- 2:31:06How long have you been doing it that
- 2:31:07way? What caus you to go that route
- 2:31:09instead of oh okay yeah I got you. And
- 2:31:12what's the average cost of products? How
- 2:31:14many leads are you getting per average
- 2:31:16per month? That's included referrals.
- 2:31:18Got it. And how many jobs are you
- 2:31:19closing from those? Only that much with
- 2:31:22a surprise stone. How many closes do you
- 2:31:24feel like you could have gotten if you
- 2:31:26had an extra amount of leads per month?
- 2:31:29Okay. So
- 2:31:31whatever amount they say and then we s
- 2:31:33you know for example here okay so 10
- 2:31:36then you don't say anything and it will
- 2:31:37be like yeah yeah yeah 10 because I
- 2:31:39think this is and so they will give you
- 2:31:40more information on why that number is
- 2:31:42important to them and and your profit on
- 2:31:45that for example here so what's the math
- 2:31:47on that do you have your phone and we
- 2:31:48ask calculator so if you're losing on an
- 2:31:50average of x amount per month and an
- 2:31:54average of $6,000 per project what's the
- 2:31:56math on that so by definition you're
- 2:31:58losing so much per month in potential
- 2:32:00revenue you should be making if you just
- 2:32:01had better lead generation. Do you want
- 2:32:03to change that? Questions like that,
- 2:32:05these are solution aware um questions
- 2:32:07and problem aware. So once they're aware
- 2:32:09of the problem, okay, so like with lead
- 2:32:11generation strategies you have in place
- 2:32:13right now, do you like it? Besides, I
- 2:32:16mean this thing, do you actually like
- 2:32:18the process? If so, if yes, oh
- 2:32:21interesting, what do you like about it?
- 2:32:23If no, uh it can be all bad if you've
- 2:32:26been doing it. What do you like about
- 2:32:27it? So a and after the answer we might
- 2:32:29say something like okay it doesn't sound
- 2:32:31terrible then but if you could change
- 2:32:32something about the process what would
- 2:32:33you change? We kind of want want them to
- 2:32:36uh understand and pretty much state out
- 2:32:39loud after they understand that there is
- 2:32:42a problem what the problem is and what
- 2:32:43the solution might be. So we're not
- 2:32:45trying to say okay you have this problem
- 2:32:47here's what we do. It's more like we're
- 2:32:48gonna have them say to us what they what
- 2:32:51problem they have and when we when we
- 2:32:54present our offer we're going to say it
- 2:32:55in their words so they can't even
- 2:32:57complain about it. They can't say
- 2:32:58anything about it. We're literally
- 2:32:59telling them we're giving them what they
- 2:33:01say they want and they arrive to that
- 2:33:03solution. They arrive to that aha moment
- 2:33:06of oh this is what I need. So then it's
- 2:33:09a much easier approach. Then we go into
- 2:33:10probing questions. So um you don't sound
- 2:33:13so sure about it. wouldn't you like?
- 2:33:15Okay. Well, let's do this just so I can
- 2:33:18see the rational behind why you might be
- 2:33:20looking for whatever you want. But
- 2:33:22besides this reason and these reason,
- 2:33:24what's the main reason you might want to
- 2:33:26be looking for a better source? So, all
- 2:33:27we're doing here is we're trying to go
- 2:33:28deeper. We just haven't gotten enough
- 2:33:30and that we didn't create enough pain in
- 2:33:32the prospect that we think is enough for
- 2:33:34them to move forward today or move out
- 2:33:36with a solution like ours. So, we need
- 2:33:39to go into these probing questions to go
- 2:33:40deeper. Okay. and clarifying questions
- 2:33:43and this is especially when they're
- 2:33:44vague. So, oh yeah, I'm not quite sure
- 2:33:46understand when you said these could you
- 2:33:48explain could you expand that for me? So
- 2:33:50stuff like that very important to get
- 2:33:52into more pain. Okay, then we go into
- 2:33:55solution awareness. So what did you do
- 2:33:57in the past to change your situation and
- 2:33:59I mean just out of curiosity before we
- 2:34:01started talking today um were you out
- 2:34:04there looking for better lead generation
- 2:34:05strategies so that you can you know
- 2:34:07whatever they said they want whatever
- 2:34:09their final goal is. If no, we go into
- 2:34:12oh really what's prevented you from
- 2:34:14doing that in the past? So what's
- 2:34:15changed now? Then let's do this ju just
- 2:34:18to make sure that what we're doing could
- 2:34:19actually help you right. Uh besides
- 2:34:21benefit one and benefit two, what would
- 2:34:23you actually be looking for a lead
- 2:34:24generation company? And we have them
- 2:34:26tell us what solution they want. We
- 2:34:27start talking about the solution. Yeah.
- 2:34:29Explain a little bit um on that like
- 2:34:32what would be your ideal criteria. Can I
- 2:34:34ask why that's important to you? Like
- 2:34:36now though is there anything else you
- 2:34:39want? If yes, oh yeah, what do you do?
- 2:34:41Or how did it work out? If they if they
- 2:34:42tried anything in the past, right? So if
- 2:34:44they reply yes to what have they trying
- 2:34:46or were you looking for um
- 2:34:49anything specifically? Okay. So what
- 2:34:52kind of results did you get from it?
- 2:34:53What do you think held you back from
- 2:34:54having success? Questions like that.
- 2:34:56Then we continue. All right. Well,
- 2:34:58besides what they said they already
- 2:35:00wanted, you know, how do you see these
- 2:35:02benefiting those most though? Yeah, I
- 2:35:04gotcha. So I mean, uh what would it do
- 2:35:06to you personally though? how it would
- 2:35:09be different you being able to do
- 2:35:11whatever they want to ahead in their
- 2:35:12business. How would your life or
- 2:35:14business uh maybe be different than it
- 2:35:16is now? How would that make you feel
- 2:35:18though? How do you see the benefits of
- 2:35:21actually like you you know solving this
- 2:35:24problem that they told us in the uh in
- 2:35:27the problem awareness area. Okay. So we
- 2:35:30go back to things that they said
- 2:35:32already. Uh and then we go into let me
- 2:35:35see let me see let me see. and going
- 2:35:36into the consequences questions. So, ah
- 2:35:38I got you and I mean like honestly
- 2:35:40though what if you don't do anything
- 2:35:41about your lead generation and your
- 2:35:43situation gets even worse. So what we're
- 2:35:44trying to do here is we created this big
- 2:35:46gap between we had them tell them what
- 2:35:49the problems are. We had them talk about
- 2:35:51a solution. We really made them asking
- 2:35:54all these questions and going deeper
- 2:35:56made them very aware and top of mind of
- 2:35:58what the pain is what the problem is and
- 2:36:00there is a lot of pain. We created this
- 2:36:02gap. Okay. And now we want to make these
- 2:36:05gap even bigger by asking what would be
- 2:36:08the consequences if you don't do
- 2:36:09anything about this. We want the gap
- 2:36:11between where they are now and where
- 2:36:12they have to be like they have to be
- 2:36:14because there's so much pain right now
- 2:36:15and on the other side there's so much
- 2:36:17pleasure of you know achie you know
- 2:36:20solving all these problems and getting
- 2:36:21the solution. So, we want to increase
- 2:36:23that gap now with consequences
- 2:36:25questions. And that's going to be the
- 2:36:26last thing before we transition into
- 2:36:28showing our solution, which guess what
- 2:36:30is going to be very along the lines of
- 2:36:33what they said they want and it's going
- 2:36:35to have nothing of the things that they
- 2:36:36said they don't want. So, um, so what if
- 2:36:40you don't do anything about your lead
- 2:36:41generation and your situation gets even
- 2:36:43worse? Yeah. So, do you want to have to
- 2:36:45keep chasing after jobs and wondering
- 2:36:46where the next ones are coming in if you
- 2:36:48didn't have to? So, this is also
- 2:36:49probably something that know we're going
- 2:36:51to get back to something that they told
- 2:36:52us already. So, maybe maybe they told
- 2:36:54us, "Yeah, I'm tired of always chasing
- 2:36:56jobs." Boom. Put a line like that. So,
- 2:36:58we're going to ask a few questions like
- 2:36:59that. You can read this also later on
- 2:37:01your own time. And if it sounds
- 2:37:03confusing right now, it sounds like I'm
- 2:37:04throwing a lot of [ __ ] at you. Well,
- 2:37:06you're going to see the the live sales
- 2:37:07call and it's going to make much more
- 2:37:09sense when all of this is put into
- 2:37:10context. So, transition based on what
- 2:37:12you told me um what we're actually um
- 2:37:15what we are doing would actually uh work
- 2:37:17for you in my opinion. So with your
- 2:37:19permission I can go over a few things
- 2:37:20that we would be able to do for you to
- 2:37:23help you with situation and solve
- 2:37:25problem or repeat the actual problem
- 2:37:28that they have. Uh would that help you?
- 2:37:30And you say if they say yes okay so one
- 2:37:32of the biggest problems that people have
- 2:37:34when they come to us is don't know how
- 2:37:35or don't understand how or having issues
- 2:37:38with boom literally what they told us.
- 2:37:41uh they don't know how to do or the
- 2:37:42problem that they have the biggest
- 2:37:44problem that they have the biggest
- 2:37:45challenge that we discovered earlier in
- 2:37:48um pro uh in the problem um awareness
- 2:37:51okay when we try to understand the what
- 2:37:53problem they actually have what's
- 2:37:54holding them back and giving them the
- 2:37:56most pain so we tell them we actually
- 2:37:57help people who have the same problem
- 2:38:00and when when I when I myself put it
- 2:38:03into copyrightiting words it's we're
- 2:38:05literally telling them the emotion we're
- 2:38:07giving them is the emotion of
- 2:38:08predictable and anybody
- 2:38:10We work with other people like you.
- 2:38:12Anybody can do this. This can work for
- 2:38:14anybody. This can work for you. It's
- 2:38:16predictable. We've already done it
- 2:38:17before. So those if you if you go ahead
- 2:38:19and read the coping book, I told you
- 2:38:21take their money. You will see that out
- 2:38:23of the thing that we ask here and the
- 2:38:25psychology behind it is the same.
- 2:38:26Copyrightiting is just sales in words
- 2:38:29that so which causes them to
- 2:38:31consequences. We already talked about
- 2:38:32the consequences once we asked them the
- 2:38:34consequences questions. So they told us
- 2:38:36those consequences and we repeat them
- 2:38:38back to them. So the way we solve that
- 2:38:40for our clients like you is and boom
- 2:38:42here we go over our product. Uh you'll
- 2:38:43see how we do that in the sales call. Uh
- 2:38:46but it's fairly simple and we also uh
- 2:38:49then help by showing a um sheet a Google
- 2:38:54sheet that calculates how much money
- 2:38:56they can actually return they can
- 2:38:58actually expect from this investment. So
- 2:39:00we usually explain a little bit of the
- 2:39:01lead generation process and then what
- 2:39:03ROI they can expect um on the sheet. I
- 2:39:07always recommend having a calculator or
- 2:39:09some something of that sort on the sales
- 2:39:11call. And after that uh and after we
- 2:39:14explain that we say and what that means
- 2:39:18to you is repeat back the benefits and
- 2:39:20the advantages that it will do for them
- 2:39:23once it's solved all the things that
- 2:39:25they said they want in their dream
- 2:39:26solution earlier. And finally we go into
- 2:39:29the commitment stage. So here's pretty
- 2:39:30much they say yeah everything looks
- 2:39:32good. They don't have any questions. Uh
- 2:39:34they don't have any objections. And then
- 2:39:36we go pretty much into the price. So we
- 2:39:38pretty much covered how we would help
- 2:39:40you go from and we repeat again the
- 2:39:42outcome they wanted. Okay. Help you get
- 2:39:44to the outcome they want. So before we
- 2:39:46go into the funds needed uh to actually
- 2:39:48get there. Do you feel like this could
- 2:39:50be the answer for you? And here's where
- 2:39:52usually objections come up. And if they
- 2:39:54come up you you're going to have to kill
- 2:39:56them. I don't have something
- 2:39:58specifically for all the objections. Uh
- 2:40:00that's just so much work uh on the end
- 2:40:04of the sales rep to create those
- 2:40:06objections and honestly we do not want
- 2:40:07to give out on YouTube right now all the
- 2:40:10objections that we use because we just
- 2:40:13feel like uh it's it' be a little bit
- 2:40:15too much maybe for people who are inside
- 2:40:18uh who work with us a little closely not
- 2:40:20like we work with them but anybody who's
- 2:40:22maybe part of my go eye level we can
- 2:40:24help them out with that but right now I
- 2:40:26don't have that in that in this video we
- 2:40:28might make more videos on that in the
- 2:40:29future. So, and then we say, "Okay, so
- 2:40:31write this down. The after we killed all
- 2:40:33the objections, okay, so here in the
- 2:40:35middle there's going to be objections."
- 2:40:37And sometimes you're going to get no
- 2:40:39objections. Okay, just so you know. So,
- 2:40:41okay. So, write this down. The funds you
- 2:40:43will need for us, the funds you will
- 2:40:45need for us to come in and set
- 2:40:46everything up and solve this problem
- 2:40:48that they say you have to get you XYZ
- 2:40:50results that they say they want would be
- 2:40:52taken
- 2:40:55$70 to $80 to 80 bucks per real lead. Uh
- 2:40:59any questions on how that works? Some
- 2:41:02people will say yes, more objections,
- 2:41:04some people will say no. If they say no,
- 2:41:06say, "Okay, so really the next would be
- 2:41:08for me to send you the payment link. you
- 2:41:10get it covered while we're on a call and
- 2:41:12then we can review the contract
- 2:41:13together. Simple as that. So, we add
- 2:41:15them to pay on the call, send the
- 2:41:17contract, everything's done. And now
- 2:41:19that we've went through this, you can
- 2:41:21watch it one more time if you want, but
- 2:41:22I think the best thing you can do is now
- 2:41:24watch the live sales call. Let's get
- 2:41:26into it.
- 2:41:27>> Ma, yeah, I got you, sir.
- 2:41:30>> Awesome. Awesome. Here we go. So, yeah,
- 2:41:33sounds good. Did you uh get a chance
- 2:41:35because I don't want to repeat my
- 2:41:36things, you know, maybe you've already
- 2:41:38heard it so many times. Do you already
- 2:41:39see the videos I sent you maybe via
- 2:41:41email? Um, just making sure that I don't
- 2:41:45repeat myself twice. Have you already
- 2:41:46seen anything that I've sent you over?
- 2:41:49Yeah. But what do you think, Gary?
- 2:41:51Sounds good.
- 2:41:52>> Well, I'd like to hear more, you know,
- 2:41:54more details from you about everything,
- 2:41:55of course.
- 2:41:56>> Of course. Of course. Yeah, that's what
- 2:41:58we're here for, right? So, uh, before I
- 2:42:00get into that, uh, I just say the goal
- 2:42:02for me in this call is really to kind of
- 2:42:03see where you're at right now and kind
- 2:42:05of what you want to do because I'm not
- 2:42:06going to try to sell you or offer you
- 2:42:08something that you don't want to do. You
- 2:42:09know what you want and you know what you
- 2:42:11and I want to kind of figure out what
- 2:42:12you need. So, I think what I want to do
- 2:42:15is ask you just a couple questions to
- 2:42:16understand where you're at right now
- 2:42:18compared to where you want to go.
- 2:42:19Because if you're here, I suppose you're
- 2:42:21looking for something. And so,
- 2:42:23>> yeah. So, I guess you know the fastest
- 2:42:25way to get to that is sort of what are
- 2:42:27you looking for? if you could just uh
- 2:42:29put it together like that.
- 2:42:31>> A as simple as this. I need more deck
- 2:42:35leads. I have I have a incorporation and
- 2:42:39escorp and within that incorporation I
- 2:42:41have a masonry side and we do hardcapes
- 2:42:45and I have a deck side and then I'm
- 2:42:47getting ready to start an HVAC side.
- 2:42:49>> Well, the the the decking is brand new.
- 2:42:51I'm sorry. Let me turn this off. Um
- 2:42:55put this on do not disturb.
- 2:42:58Um,
- 2:43:00but I my my decking is on my website,
- 2:43:02but it's not we're not getting any calls
- 2:43:04about it because it's so new. I we just
- 2:43:06started a few months ago.
- 2:43:08>> Okay, I understand.
- 2:43:09>> Um, so yeah, I my basic need right now I
- 2:43:12I have masonry leads coming out the Wazu
- 2:43:15from organic just because we've been in
- 2:43:17business for a decade.
- 2:43:18>> Yeah. Um, and we have a good reputation,
- 2:43:20but the decking is so new that people
- 2:43:22aren't really aware that we're doing it
- 2:43:23and I'm not getting any kind of traction
- 2:43:26online from from our services for that.
- 2:43:28>> Okay. So, you have you tried anything
- 2:43:31but organic for the hardscape side of
- 2:43:34things or has it always been organic?
- 2:43:37>> Um, on the hard Oh, yeah. On the first
- 2:43:39cape, I paid for advertising in many
- 2:43:41different forms all the way up through
- 2:43:422020. And then I this earlier this year,
- 2:43:46maybe the end of last year, I let uh a
- 2:43:50company use AI to create a blog on my
- 2:43:53website. And then they were creating
- 2:43:56blog or not blog, but they were creating
- 2:43:58posts for social media.
- 2:44:01>> Yes. Okay.
- 2:44:02>> Well, no, not for my SEO so much. They
- 2:44:05they they were well, yes. to to increase
- 2:44:07it, optimize it, of course. But
- 2:44:10>> yeah,
- 2:44:11>> um just the
- 2:44:13>> the post for the the the AI created post
- 2:44:16for social media were terrible. I mean,
- 2:44:18everybody was calling me telling me they
- 2:44:20were like, "You need to take that down.
- 2:44:21It's not it doesn't even look right."
- 2:44:23You know, it's not it's nothing like
- 2:44:25what you've been posting. Some of the
- 2:44:28some of the stuff didn't even have any
- 2:44:29hardcape pictures in there. Yeah.
- 2:44:30>> I mean, it'd be a picture of like a
- 2:44:32Fender guitar and tell them talking
- 2:44:34about quality,
- 2:44:35>> you know? it just it wasn't relevant. It
- 2:44:37didn't help me. I actually I paid for an
- 2:44:39entire year in advance for all that and
- 2:44:41shut it all down after about a week. So,
- 2:44:45that was
- 2:44:46>> Yeah, that that that was a complete
- 2:44:48waste. So, um that didn't work. But I I
- 2:44:51I truly unless I was unless I was
- 2:44:55wanting to dramatically expand the size
- 2:44:58of my masonry hardscape division.
- 2:45:02>> I don't need to advertise because we
- 2:45:04stay covered up. We we from 2020 we've
- 2:45:07been booked out for a year and a half on
- 2:45:09that.
- 2:45:10>> That's perfect.
- 2:45:11>> Yeah.
- 2:45:12>> Yeah.
- 2:45:12>> But the decks the decks are scaring me
- 2:45:15because we did have four deck contracts
- 2:45:16and we've ran through all of them. We're
- 2:45:18on the very last deck right now. We do
- 2:45:20not even have a single estimate out
- 2:45:22there for decks at the time. So, we have
- 2:45:24like my deck guys are going to be out of
- 2:45:26work here in another couple weeks with
- 2:45:29no more no more leads. So, that's really
- 2:45:31what I need is more any more exposure on
- 2:45:34the deck side for my company.
- 2:45:36>> Okay, I understand. I understand. And
- 2:45:38there any reason why you even went into
- 2:45:41decks like
- 2:45:42>> Sure. Sure. So the the easiest response
- 2:45:44to that is after doing uh hardcaping for
- 2:45:4810 years and I go do an estimate. I
- 2:45:50found this out uh I started this process
- 2:45:54last fall. Um I do roughly 20 25
- 2:45:58estimates a week and I'd say 50% of the
- 2:46:01clients that I do estimates for in
- 2:46:03conjunction with doing their hardcapes
- 2:46:05which is like a you know a big portion
- 2:46:07of their yard. There'll be a a part of
- 2:46:09that hardscape project that they want to
- 2:46:11add a deck to stairs, some deck, you
- 2:46:15know, tracks respectfully, and I would
- 2:46:18have to then sub that out or find
- 2:46:20someone that could do it for them
- 2:46:21because we weren't licensed to do it.
- 2:46:23And so my desire was to get in front of
- 2:46:26a client, but if we're already in front
- 2:46:27of a client, why not just go ahead and
- 2:46:29capture all of the potential revenue?
- 2:46:31>> Yeah. And so we branched out and and
- 2:46:34it's been working great because I've
- 2:46:35got, you know, separate crews running on
- 2:46:37different sides of town and then they
- 2:46:38come together if we have a joint job,
- 2:46:40but I'm just not getting any I'm not
- 2:46:42getting any traction whatsoever from my
- 2:46:44website, the decks.
- 2:46:46>> I understand. I understand. It's all
- 2:46:47very clear to me and I'm happy you're
- 2:46:49that straightforward and you know what
- 2:46:51you want because it's going to be easy
- 2:46:52for me to just give you what you want.
- 2:46:54Right. Good. So, uh, so I like that. Uh,
- 2:46:56I just have a couple more questions
- 2:46:58because it sounds like, you know, not
- 2:46:59many people have multiple divisions and
- 2:47:01it doesn't sound like the way you set up
- 2:47:03your company right now, you're the guy
- 2:47:05going out and doing the work, right? You
- 2:47:06have the crews, so you're already pretty
- 2:47:08set up and ready for scale, which I
- 2:47:09like. So, my question is sort of on the
- 2:47:12sales side of things. Are you the guy
- 2:47:14who takes care of it? We have sales reps
- 2:47:16or can you maybe walk me through a
- 2:47:17little bit the sales process?
- 2:47:19>> So, so the sales process is is 100% me.
- 2:47:22Um, I generally what happens is, uh, I
- 2:47:25get, you know, a lot of calls, emails to
- 2:47:27the contacts throughout the day. I set
- 2:47:30my own appointments up. I go from
- 2:47:31appointment to appointment. Um, and then
- 2:47:33I'm the ones selling the job, dealing
- 2:47:35with the clients in front of the
- 2:47:36clients. And then after I get that
- 2:47:38process done, you know, I'll ship
- 2:47:40everything in and then my guys come in
- 2:47:41and take care of the job. But I don't
- 2:47:43have any estimators. I have no support
- 2:47:46personnel. I have an accountant that
- 2:47:47handles my books, but everything else is
- 2:47:50done by me. Um, I don't I could pay
- 2:47:54somebody else to be like an admin for me
- 2:47:56or something, but I'd rather just be
- 2:47:58hands-on and handle it myself.
- 2:48:00>> For sure. I understand. I understand.
- 2:48:02Okay, that's No, that's very clear.
- 2:48:04That's very clear. So, uh, when it comes
- 2:48:06to decks specifically, right, when we
- 2:48:08talk about Eids, there's always a co a
- 2:48:10price that comes in mind. So, I know I
- 2:48:13can offer you good price per leads. The
- 2:48:15question is what do you think right now
- 2:48:19is a fair price for full deck? Right? So
- 2:48:22if you were to say if you were to decide
- 2:48:24the cost per lead that you want like the
- 2:48:26ideal cost per lead that you can choose
- 2:48:27for a full deck, what do you think is a
- 2:48:29fair price for that? If these leads are
- 2:48:30responsive and actually want the deck.
- 2:48:33>> So So
- 2:48:35if I if I go under contract, I think 5%
- 2:48:39total is fair.
- 2:48:42>> Yes. That's in case that's not really a
- 2:48:44cost per lead. There's a cost per O,
- 2:48:46>> right?
- 2:48:47>> So, if we were to talk about cost per
- 2:48:49sending you people who actually want the
- 2:48:52deck, but you need to do the sales
- 2:48:54process,
- 2:48:55>> right? You know, well, that's the same
- 2:48:58exact same model that I started when I
- 2:49:00started my business a decade ago. I was
- 2:49:02heavily involved in Home Advisor.
- 2:49:05Um, Home Advisor,
- 2:49:07I hate Home Advisor, but I'm honest. I
- 2:49:11mean, now they're An's list. They I
- 2:49:13don't like the way they do things. They
- 2:49:16uh their leads, they would send me a
- 2:49:19base price of $75 per lead. Now, I might
- 2:49:24get there and the person's just fishing
- 2:49:26or it might be another contractor or I
- 2:49:28mean it could be a job that's a $100 job
- 2:49:31and I'm paying $75 there. So, I thought
- 2:49:33that was way too high.
- 2:49:35>> Yeah.
- 2:49:35>> Um on on I I honestly prefer I don't
- 2:49:40know. I I like working I had worked in
- 2:49:43the past with a digital marketing agent
- 2:49:47that would send me leads and the deal
- 2:49:50that we had brokered was that he gets 5%
- 2:49:53of the total contract on closed deals. I
- 2:49:57feel that's 100% fair. Now I cut him I
- 2:49:59cut him big checks. You know I just got
- 2:50:01done cutting my $850 check for a deck.
- 2:50:04Um, I think that's fair compensation
- 2:50:07because it does also filter out some of
- 2:50:10the BS leads because like with Home
- 2:50:13Advisor, if you got somebody online, the
- 2:50:16process they start a construction is
- 2:50:18they call a bunch of people and they try
- 2:50:19to get pricing so they get an idea of
- 2:50:21what they want to budget to then build
- 2:50:22with. The problem that you run into is
- 2:50:25if you're paying for leads is that
- 2:50:27person might be fishing. I pay you for
- 2:50:30the lead. I go out there. They might not
- 2:50:32ever do the project. they might, you
- 2:50:34know, decide it's too expensive. They
- 2:50:36might,
- 2:50:37>> you know, do do anything, go with
- 2:50:39somebody else, etc., etc. So, I
- 2:50:41completely disbanded Home Advisor in
- 2:50:442020, 2019 because I got so sick of them
- 2:50:47charging me. Yeah. And absorb exorbitant
- 2:50:49amount for every single lead and they
- 2:50:51didn't they were crap leads to begin
- 2:50:52with.
- 2:50:53>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand. But
- 2:50:56if I can make a suggestion there, the
- 2:50:57problem is on the paper lead model is
- 2:50:59Home Advisor.
- 2:51:00>> So, yeah, there's great leads out there.
- 2:51:02You just got to find them know have the
- 2:51:04market the right marketing to do it. And
- 2:51:05the pro the main problem with all of
- 2:51:07that system that they have is they they
- 2:51:09are trying they want to they're huge. I
- 2:51:10mean they're making 100 million over
- 2:51:12$100 million a year not like I think
- 2:51:14$200 million a year. So they're huge.
- 2:51:15When you're at that level you run out of
- 2:51:17contractors that you can do exclusive
- 2:51:19leads for.
- 2:51:20>> That is where the problem is. It's not
- 2:51:22the lead. The leads are good but they
- 2:51:23share them with multiple contractors.
- 2:51:25And it
- 2:51:25>> Oh, you're right. Yeah. You're right.
- 2:51:26>> Because when you're scaling at that
- 2:51:28level that's what you got to do, right?
- 2:51:30I mean, if I wanted to run a $200
- 2:51:31million zero company, that's what you
- 2:51:32got to do. You gota Yeah. You know,
- 2:51:34>> that's just a trade-off that you got to
- 2:51:36do.
- 2:51:36>> And you're absolutely right. And that's
- 2:51:38one of the things that made me mad was
- 2:51:39that charging, they get a lead in for a
- 2:51:41wall and if they charge $75, they send
- 2:51:44that one lead to 15 contractors. They
- 2:51:47>> make 75 on each.
- 2:51:49>> Exactly.
- 2:51:50>> Yeah. That's insane. I know. It's a
- 2:51:52crazy model, right? It's
- 2:51:53>> Yeah. Yeah. and and and I would I would
- 2:51:55be going to leads and I would I would
- 2:51:57like be passing a contractor coming out
- 2:51:59and another one coming in after me.
- 2:52:01>> No, I can't believe that.
- 2:52:03>> Yeah. So, it's I I hate them and I hate
- 2:52:06Home Advisor and I think I I just don't
- 2:52:08like the way they handle anything. But,
- 2:52:10>> yeah, my process is different. We still
- 2:52:13would do paper lead. And I'll tell you
- 2:52:15why I would do that instead of a paper
- 2:52:17commission at first. Mark, you know,
- 2:52:19note this part at first. Okay? Why I
- 2:52:22would do that? Because the little we get
- 2:52:24are exclusives. So because we're not a
- 2:52:26huge company and I have thousands and
- 2:52:28thousands of contractors only dozens for
- 2:52:31now. I can afford to do that and only
- 2:52:35give exclusive leads.
- 2:52:37>> Okay? So you will never have the problem
- 2:52:39again. Second thing, I will ask for less
- 2:52:41than than they were asking you and only
- 2:52:44for full backs, not for repairs.
- 2:52:47>> Okay? So you like the three problems
- 2:52:49that you mentioned, they're already gone
- 2:52:51because I don't do any of that. Okay.
- 2:52:53>> And that's pretty much it. So when you
- 2:52:55say I don't pay per lead, let's say,
- 2:52:56right? At the end of the day, you need
- 2:52:58to pay something to get the leads. So
- 2:53:00there's two ways you can do it. You can
- 2:53:01either decide and this is something I
- 2:53:04went through because um over the past
- 2:53:06months, we changed, you know, we went
- 2:53:08through many people who wanted different
- 2:53:10things and what I'm offering you is what
- 2:53:12came out to be the best plan because we
- 2:53:14started with asking people $4,000
- 2:53:16upfront and we run your marketing and we
- 2:53:18guarantee you x amount of leads. Then we
- 2:53:21said, "We charge you less upfront, but
- 2:53:24you pay the ad spend and then you pay us
- 2:53:26a percentage after the the close." And
- 2:53:30then now we're at a point where it's
- 2:53:31like you just pay us a little bit up
- 2:53:32front to cover our cost to set up and
- 2:53:35then we just you just pay us after we
- 2:53:37deliver you the leads only if they're
- 2:53:38real responsive leads. Okay? And this is
- 2:53:42the model that gets you the lowest risk
- 2:53:44up front, allows us to still give you
- 2:53:47the quality. And at the end of the day,
- 2:53:49these models when you're looking for
- 2:53:50marketing, it's all the same thing.
- 2:53:51You're paying for lead. You're paying
- 2:53:52for people interested in decks.
- 2:53:55>> Absolutely.
- 2:53:56>> Doesn't matter how you how they word it.
- 2:53:58Paper estimate, paper lead, paper. It's
- 2:54:00all like that. So that's what I can do
- 2:54:02for you today and I'll show you exactly
- 2:54:04the numbers. We break them down. Now,
- 2:54:07what I will say to the paper percentage
- 2:54:09that is my goal, man. I want to have,
- 2:54:12yes, my guy, my clients on the paper
- 2:54:14lead are great, but I want to have my 10
- 2:54:17to 15 winners up there who are who have
- 2:54:20multiple divisions and want to scale
- 2:54:22maybe nationwide and where I take a
- 2:54:24percentage of the business. That is
- 2:54:25where I'm in for. That's what I'm in
- 2:54:27for.
- 2:54:28>> But the reason I don't do it to be
- 2:54:30completely transparent at first is
- 2:54:32because I need to charge for what I can
- 2:54:34control. You look like a guy who closes
- 2:54:37100% of the jobs, but I don't know. I
- 2:54:40might still do my job and pay my guys
- 2:54:43and then for some reason that I don't
- 2:54:45know you don't close. Maybe you are sick
- 2:54:47that day and you're not closing. Well, I
- 2:54:49cannot unpredictably scale my business
- 2:54:52on guess, right? I cannot guess that
- 2:54:55you're going to close at first. So
- 2:54:56that's why I'm saying let's work
- 2:54:58together for a few weeks, a month,
- 2:54:59whatever. We see that you're closing
- 2:55:01consistently and trust me, you're not
- 2:55:04going to want to switch to performance
- 2:55:06because you're going to have to pay us
- 2:55:07more. That's gonna be the problem.
- 2:55:08[laughter] That's gonna be the problem.
- 2:55:10That's gonna be the only problem in
- 2:55:12there. Okay.
- 2:55:12>> All right. All right. So,
- 2:55:14>> so that's sort of the way I see it. And
- 2:55:16I think it makes sense.
- 2:55:17>> I agree with that. I agree with that. I
- 2:55:18understand that. Agree with it.
- 2:55:20>> Awesome. But, but just so you know, I'm
- 2:55:21not against the percentage. So, if in
- 2:55:23two weeks you get our leads and you tell
- 2:55:25me, "Hey man, let's switch to percentage
- 2:55:26and you're closing," I'm down for it.
- 2:55:28>> Okay. Okay.
- 2:55:29>> So, just wanted to mention that. Now,
- 2:55:31let's talk numbers. uh a per lead for
- 2:55:34decks. I can get them to you full Dex
- 2:55:37installations only and they need to be
- 2:55:39moving forward within the next 90 days.
- 2:55:42>> So they're not window shoppers. They
- 2:55:43want to move forward within the next 90
- 2:55:45days.
- 2:55:46>> Responsive. So within 3 days they need
- 2:55:48to respond to your um messages and calls
- 2:55:52or you get re or you get refunded for
- 2:55:54them. And um so those kind of leads and
- 2:55:59we also can also budget qualify them if
- 2:56:02you want. So we ask already sort of what
- 2:56:04they're expecting to spend,
- 2:56:05>> right?
- 2:56:06>> We can do that. $60 cost per lead and
- 2:56:08they're exclusive.
- 2:56:10>> No other debt contractor is going to get
- 2:56:12that sent in this in this.
- 2:56:13>> I don't even have anyone else. You're in
- 2:56:14Tennessee, right?
- 2:56:16>> No, no, no. I'm in Ron Virginia.
- 2:56:18>> Virginia. Where who do they find here?
- 2:56:20So, I don't have anyone in Virginia
- 2:56:24either, but that's that's the thing. Who
- 2:56:26is this? Henry Hardscape and
- 2:56:30>> that's me.
- 2:56:30>> Alexation.
- 2:56:33>> Oh, no. No. I'm So, my my company's name
- 2:56:35is Professional Hardscapes LLC.
- 2:56:37>> Ah, okay. That makes sense because I
- 2:56:39found another one and I was in Tennessee
- 2:56:41and I'm like, I don't have anyone in
- 2:56:42Tennessee for sure. Right. So, the first
- 2:56:44two that came out were yours and then
- 2:56:46the second one. Okay, cool, cool, cool.
- 2:56:48But yeah, so you're in Virginia. I don't
- 2:56:50have anyone that does decks in Virginia.
- 2:56:51I have a guy who does fences. So, if you
- 2:56:53were to tell me let's do fences, I can't
- 2:56:55do it.
- 2:56:56>> But I can do decks. Yes.
- 2:56:58>> Okay.
- 2:56:59>> Yeah. And uh last thing you need to keep
- 2:57:01in mind the upfront fee because I need
- 2:57:03to pay I mean I need to set all of it up
- 2:57:04and I have no nothing up front. So, it's
- 2:57:07um $800 up front. That's all risk you're
- 2:57:09taking. And after that, I send you the
- 2:57:11first dates.
- 2:57:12>> Now, the $800 is that something I pay
- 2:57:14every year?
- 2:57:15>> No, you just pay it one time and that's
- 2:57:17it. And then when did my leads start
- 2:57:19coming in?
- 2:57:20>> Um,
- 2:57:23Thursday, Friday,
- 2:57:25>> that quick. This week?
- 2:57:28>> Yeah. I mean, this week or worst case
- 2:57:30Monday, I guess. Just enough time to get
- 2:57:32my guys to work on the ads and get them
- 2:57:35launched. Yeah.
- 2:57:36>> Okay. So, so, so tell me, tell me, tell
- 2:57:39me what your guys are going to do in the
- 2:57:40background to generate the leads.
- 2:57:41>> Yes. So, we start by creating your ads.
- 2:57:46So, I want to show you an example of an
- 2:57:48ad um for Dex that we actually ran. This
- 2:57:52was in um
- 2:57:54this was in uh Wisconsin, Minnesota,
- 2:57:57Superior, Wisconsin. All right. So, let
- 2:58:00me get to the ad.
- 2:58:02So, we start by creating an ad that
- 2:58:05sends then people to a landing page. So,
- 2:58:08>> the ad is not a picture, is not what a
- 2:58:11lot of guys run. It's not what Angie
- 2:58:14runs or House runs. You know what? You
- 2:58:16know that it's public information what
- 2:58:17ads they run. I can see what ads they're
- 2:58:20running right now. They're shitty ads.
- 2:58:22Picture saying see what see what a deck
- 2:58:24costs right now. What type of people do
- 2:58:26you think ad attracts? It's a [laughter]
- 2:58:28picture. Like what are you expecting to
- 2:58:30attract? [ __ ] They're cheap. That's for
- 2:58:32sure.
- 2:58:32>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:58:34>> You know, it's public information like
- 2:58:37you're not even uh that smart, right?
- 2:58:41Yeah.
- 2:58:41>> So, let me get back to let me find this.
- 2:58:49>> Uh, where is Okay, here it is. I
- 2:58:52created. So, this one specifically was
- 2:58:54for deck porches and patios, but you
- 2:58:56only do decks, so you don't have to
- 2:58:57worry about the second two or at least
- 2:59:00I'm going to focus on decks for you.
- 2:59:01>> Okay. Yeah.
- 2:59:02>> So, uh, these was the best performing
- 2:59:06ads.
- 2:59:07>> So, did you guys build the video and
- 2:59:09everything? Of course.
- 2:59:11>> Oh, I'm imp. Okay. I'm impressed. I
- 2:59:13>> mean, that's what I get paid for, right?
- 2:59:15That's what that's what the SL is for.
- 2:59:17Uh, and then these, just to give an
- 2:59:19idea, this client specifically, he paid
- 2:59:22us $450
- 2:59:25and he closed at $31,000 deck, $9,000
- 2:59:28profit. You want to call him right now
- 2:59:30or give his number?
- 2:59:31>> No. No. I believe you. I believe you.
- 2:59:33>> No, I'm telling you because it's just
- 2:59:34it's just insane. This ad did this and
- 2:59:37now how do we qualify these people? Why
- 2:59:39do I why can I say these leads are
- 2:59:41qualified? Okay, because they go through
- 2:59:43a specific qualification process. So,
- 2:59:45let me show you what one of our um
- 2:59:51uh deck um landing pages look like. This
- 2:59:55is another guy. This guy's in Ohio,
- 2:59:57Cleveland. Um so, let me show you his
- 3:00:00landing page which looks which is only
- 3:00:01for decks. So, this other one was for
- 3:00:03decks, porches, patio. So, it's a bit
- 3:00:05different. I want to show you one just
- 3:00:07for decks. Okay.
- 3:00:09>> So, here it is.
- 3:00:14All right. So, on the phone, it looks
- 3:00:16better. It's for the phone, right? It's
- 3:00:18meant to be only on the phone, but we're
- 3:00:20on computer here. So, fill out this
- 3:00:22quick survey and get 10% off your new
- 3:00:24deck today. What type of deck do you
- 3:00:26have in mind? So, we start by asking
- 3:00:27them what they want. If you also do pool
- 3:00:29decks, if it's popular in your area, we
- 3:00:31can do some pool decks. Add them here.
- 3:00:33>> Yeah, we do.
- 3:00:34>> Then, when would you like the new deck
- 3:00:36to be installed? If they put just
- 3:00:38exploring for now, they're um they are
- 3:00:41disqualified. So, you won't get them.
- 3:00:43So, you won't
- 3:00:44>> Awesome. Awesome. I I can't handle I
- 3:00:46hate going to estimates like that, man.
- 3:00:48>> Yeah, that's what that's why I told you
- 3:00:49it's guaranteed that they won't move
- 3:00:50forward in the next 90 days.
- 3:00:52>> Okay.
- 3:00:53>> Um then most of our decks fall into one
- 3:00:56of these ranges, which sounds close to
- 3:00:58what you're expecting to invest. Now,
- 3:01:00this changes in your area. For this
- 3:01:01client, that was pretty accurate for his
- 3:01:04area. If you tell me you want to start
- 3:01:06with under 15,000 and then go up, you
- 3:01:08know, we work that stuff out in the
- 3:01:10onboarding call.
- 3:01:11>> Gotcha.
- 3:01:12>> What's the best way to reach you with
- 3:01:13your estimate? So, full name and phone.
- 3:01:16And to go to the next one, I need to
- 3:01:18complete this. But it's going to be
- 3:01:19their street address. So, you're going
- 3:01:21to have all of this information when
- 3:01:23it's going to be sent to you. So, let me
- 3:01:24show you an example of when I send you
- 3:01:26the leads, what those are going to look
- 3:01:28like. So, um, let me get to another sub
- 3:01:32account.
- 3:01:35So this is the same guy in um what is it
- 3:01:39called in uh Wisconsin and he now we
- 3:01:42started running an ad for sheetrock and
- 3:01:44u drywall. So these are the what am I
- 3:01:49sharing? Okay, so this is the message
- 3:01:50I'm going to send you. Uh hey, a new
- 3:01:52lead just came in and here's the full
- 3:01:54details. Name, phone number, address,
- 3:01:56job type, job details, and for you I'm
- 3:01:59going to add urgency, budget, uh and
- 3:02:02that's it. Awesome. Awesome.
- 3:02:05>> Every day you're going to get here's
- 3:02:07another question. Like I can send you as
- 3:02:09many as you want. That's the thing. Like
- 3:02:10I build a system that's predictable and
- 3:02:12I can send you one, two, three, four,
- 3:02:13five, six, seven a day. Like you tell me
- 3:02:15how many do you want.
- 3:02:17>> Okay. Okay. And where where are the ads
- 3:02:19running at that you're creating?
- 3:02:21>> Your service area. So, as soon as we
- 3:02:23close this call and we everything sorted
- 3:02:25out, I'm going to send you a form where
- 3:02:27I need the exact zip codes you want to
- 3:02:30have people from because I know there's,
- 3:02:32you know, some, you know, you know the
- 3:02:33Polish zip codes, you know, the the good
- 3:02:35ones. So, that's run.
- 3:02:38>> Yes.
- 3:02:38>> Okay. And but, but are they running on
- 3:02:40like um
- 3:02:41>> Facebook? Are they on meta?
- 3:02:44>> Okay. So, they're on meta. Okay. Okay.
- 3:02:46Okay. And there there's no other charges
- 3:02:48for me to run the ads.
- 3:02:50>> Not that I know of. Okay, that's that's
- 3:02:52what I that's what I want to know.
- 3:02:54>> And of course for us then we put the
- 3:02:56money up front in the ads
- 3:02:58and you just start getting leads in the
- 3:03:00first eight because as you've seen in
- 3:03:02the video like in the message in the
- 3:03:04like of the video we know what we're
- 3:03:05doing.
- 3:03:06>> Yeah. Clients we have also other packet
- 3:03:10we've stopped really doing that where we
- 3:03:12that's why I ask about your sales
- 3:03:13process where we book the calls in for
- 3:03:15them. So we called them with AI and so
- 3:03:17on and we booked I mean for example this
- 3:03:19guy he's just getting packed.
- 3:03:22So not only is he paying he's paying us
- 3:03:24per lead but then he also pays us every
- 3:03:26time we booked these calls for it. So
- 3:03:28last month he had about 45 estimates. Um
- 3:03:33can you see it?
- 3:03:34>> Yep. Yep.
- 3:03:35>> That's a lot. So these all came from us
- 3:03:37and he's like yeah I mean now we we had
- 3:03:40to make some changes because it's like
- 3:03:42I'm getting too many so give me less but
- 3:03:45they have more budget. So we
- 3:03:47>> Oh yeah.
- 3:03:47>> So we made some changes and uh that's
- 3:03:50something we can do with everyone. It's
- 3:03:51just you know the more qualification you
- 3:03:53want the higher the cost per lead is
- 3:03:54going to be because that's what it is
- 3:03:55right.
- 3:03:56>> Yeah. Of course.
- 3:03:57>> Yeah.
- 3:03:58>> Matia say no more. I am 100% in. Tell me
- 3:04:01where. Send me the form to fill out.
- 3:04:03Tell me where to pay the 800 bucks.
- 3:04:05Let's do Let's do this.
- 3:04:07>> Let me do that now, man. No, I'm excited
- 3:04:09to get you started. Like, as soon as
- 3:04:11like also sounding from, you know,
- 3:04:13sounds from your experience how bad it
- 3:04:15was or you know, the things you said
- 3:04:16like pay for an year in advance for some
- 3:04:19AI content.
- 3:04:21>> Yep. And it was absolute [ __ ] I mean,
- 3:04:24just [ __ ]
- 3:04:25>> For that just just out of curiosity
- 3:04:27because
- 3:04:28>> would I pay for that? Um, it was for for
- 3:04:31the blog. The blog was something like
- 3:04:34700
- 3:04:36and then the social media was something
- 3:04:39around five or six. But they're all AI
- 3:04:42generated, you know. They're not
- 3:04:44>> they're not even can do work. Our ad at
- 3:04:46least is work, you know.
- 3:04:47>> Exactly. Like they just they simply was
- 3:04:50spitting out junk and it was just
- 3:04:51filling up. The blog helped me a little
- 3:04:54bit because it put some keywords into my
- 3:04:55website for SEO a little bit, but the
- 3:04:59social media I think hurt me because
- 3:05:01like I have a [laughter] well I have a
- 3:05:03social Yeah, I have a social media
- 3:05:05following likes to see my projects and
- 3:05:07like the work that we do and then they
- 3:05:09started seeing all this [ __ ] like
- 3:05:11because they were they posted like every
- 3:05:13day, right? that
- 3:05:15>> because it's it's AI, so they're going
- 3:05:16to post every day or every three days or
- 3:05:19whatever. And every every post was just
- 3:05:21horrendous. I mean, it was not
- 3:05:23>> Yeah, it was um I'll even tell you the
- 3:05:26name of them.
- 3:05:28>> I'm not even gonna look them up, man.
- 3:05:30It's like that sounds like junk.
- 3:05:32>> It was I mean, they they came
- 3:05:34>> How long ago was this as well?
- 3:05:36>> How long ago?
- 3:05:37>> Yeah.
- 3:05:37>> Um I it was beginning of this year, I
- 3:05:40believe. like maybe just January because
- 3:05:42I shut it off really quickly. I only ran
- 3:05:45it for about a month and then turned it
- 3:05:47all off because it was terrible. But it
- 3:05:49was uh damn it was something SE SEO.
- 3:05:53>> Oh, for sure.
- 3:05:54>> AI SEO or something like that. It was it
- 3:05:57it was a big firm. They just I don't
- 3:05:59know. It just didn't work.
- 3:06:00>> Yeah, it was a big firm. They they they
- 3:06:03just didn't work for me. I mean, I don't
- 3:06:04know if anybody else is having success
- 3:06:05with it, but
- 3:06:07>> it's so I think I'm pretty objective how
- 3:06:09the posts look. If the if everybody is
- 3:06:11telling you that the if everybody's
- 3:06:14telling you that the the content is bad.
- 3:06:16>> Yeah.
- 3:06:16>> Like,
- 3:06:17>> and they were my wife was like, "What
- 3:06:20the hell is this?" And I'm like, "I
- 3:06:21started this AI thing to advertise for
- 3:06:23me." She goes, "Turn it off." I said,
- 3:06:26"That's insane."
- 3:06:27>> [laughter]
- 3:06:29>> So yeah, I I shut all down and then I'm
- 3:06:31not using the And then the other part
- 3:06:33was it actually started to ding me a
- 3:06:36little bit on Google because you know
- 3:06:37Google has the AI detectors
- 3:06:39>> and they were they were seeing that the
- 3:06:40blogs were completely AI built. I was
- 3:06:43falling down in ranking
- 3:06:44>> and then I I had my web wizard step back
- 3:06:47in and and fix my website to bring me
- 3:06:49back up. So it was it's a fiasco. I'll
- 3:06:52never do that again. So
- 3:06:53>> yeah, sounds good, man. I'll send you
- 3:06:56the payment link via text. Check that
- 3:06:58out because I want to make sure it goes
- 3:07:00through. Sometimes with our payment
- 3:07:01processor, it doesn't. So, uh I don't
- 3:07:04know if you got time to take a look at
- 3:07:05it now.
- 3:07:07>> So, I don't you sent it to me text.
- 3:07:11>> I don't know if you got your phone or if
- 3:07:12you want it via email. I can do it.
- 3:07:13>> No, I've got my phone on me and my uh
- 3:07:16and email, but I don't have
- 3:07:18>> I sent it to Harold.
- 3:07:20>> Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. I
- 3:07:22got it. I got it.
- 3:07:23>> Yeah. So that's my personal company
- 3:07:24number. So you can save me uh there. And
- 3:07:28my business partner has access to that
- 3:07:30number as well. His name is Noah. So you
- 3:07:32probably meet him in the onboarding
- 3:07:33call. And uh uh so just so you know, we
- 3:07:37are both there. Sometimes he'll call
- 3:07:38you, sometimes I'll call you to or
- 3:07:41whatever. And uh Okay, that's good.
- 3:07:44That's good. Then um yeah, I mean
- 3:07:50>> so as soon as we get off the call, I'm
- 3:07:51gonna I'm gonna fill this information
- 3:07:53out and send this in to pay to pay for
- 3:07:55it.
- 3:07:55>> Yes.
- 3:07:55>> Then what else do you need out of me?
- 3:07:57>> Next step, I'm going to send you the
- 3:07:58onboarding form. Okay. I just need five
- 3:08:00minutes because I need to call someone
- 3:08:02else and then I'm going to send you the
- 3:08:03onboarding form on that.
- 3:08:06>> Actually, in the meantime, what you can
- 3:08:07do is take a look at the maybe help
- 3:08:10yourself with JGBT. I don't know what
- 3:08:12you need but for the zip codes I need an
- 3:08:14accurate long h you know it needs to be
- 3:08:17pretty big as a service area because
- 3:08:19otherwise you know if the cost to get
- 3:08:21this lead is going to be higher. So we
- 3:08:23need a pretty large a pretty wide
- 3:08:26service area with all the accurate
- 3:08:28residential zip codes. I usually help
- 3:08:30myself with LGBT with that
- 3:08:32>> and uh then that's pretty much it. Then
- 3:08:35that's literally it and uh on
- 3:08:39to I mean tomorrow or something I can
- 3:08:42already send you probably as soon as I
- 3:08:43have all of these things I can send
- 3:08:45stuff over to get done. So the the
- 3:08:46sooner I have that it's not unrealistic
- 3:08:49that on Thursday you get the first lead.
- 3:08:51It's not unrealistic.
- 3:08:54>> That's fantastic.
- 3:08:55>> Yeah. So it's not unrealistic but I'm
- 3:08:56not promising it. All right, I got you.
- 3:08:58I got you.
- 3:08:59>> That's how it is. And uh what I'm going
- 3:09:01to do after that as well, I want to put
- 3:09:03everything that we said here on writing
- 3:09:05in writing. So I I can show you
- 3:09:07literally what it looks. It just says,
- 3:09:09you know, this is what a qualified lead
- 3:09:10looks like. It's going to have this this
- 3:09:12this this is going to be it's going to
- 3:09:14be delivered to this phone number and uh
- 3:09:16the client only pays this much and it's
- 3:09:19never going to be charged anything else.
- 3:09:20So you know, you want to make sure those
- 3:09:22things are in writing because as you
- 3:09:23said, you don't want to be charged every
- 3:09:25year or things like that. And um I mean
- 3:09:29it doesn't get more much more smooth
- 3:09:30smooth than that.
- 3:09:32>> Yeah, I I agree with you. I agree with
- 3:09:33you. I I you're you're an you're an
- 3:09:35excellent salesman. You're an excellent
- 3:09:37excellent in what you do and and I'm
- 3:09:39usually really hard with stuff like
- 3:09:40this. So, um I like I like the way you
- 3:09:43have it set up. I was very impressed
- 3:09:45with everything and I can't wait to see,
- 3:09:46you know, everything moving forward and
- 3:09:48um I look forward to a longer
- 3:09:50relationship. And then and I and I I'm
- 3:09:53I'm not kidding Matia that I from day
- 3:09:56one my goal has been massive expansion
- 3:09:59or franchising and the only thing that's
- 3:10:02been a hindrance to that was the
- 3:10:04pandemic. Like I was on the cusp of
- 3:10:07starting the franchise process. I was
- 3:10:09going to have another location set up in
- 3:10:12Tampa Bay. I was going to move another
- 3:10:14one up to Northern Virginia. Had the
- 3:10:16people to I had the people and
- 3:10:18everything the pandmic hit and it just
- 3:10:19blew all that. So, I'm trying to build
- 3:10:22back now. I still want to do that and I
- 3:10:24still want to be nationwide.
- 3:10:26>> Um,
- 3:10:27>> that's good. That's what I want to know.
- 3:10:28That's what I wanted to hear. Right.
- 3:10:29Because I'm not looking for like, you
- 3:10:31know, because it takes me the same
- 3:10:32amount of time and effort to, you know,
- 3:10:35do the do it for one small fish and do
- 3:10:37it for the big fish. Right. To me, like
- 3:10:39I want to do it for the big one. Right.
- 3:10:40That's how it works. You want to do a
- 3:10:41million dollar deck. You don't want to
- 3:10:43do a $300 $30,000 deck.
- 3:10:46>> Right. Right. Right. Right. and and and
- 3:10:48and I'm I'm hellbent on doing that. Um
- 3:10:52my background is is I do have
- 3:10:54construction knowledge, but I also have
- 3:10:56a master's degree in business
- 3:10:58administration. I was a controller for
- 3:11:00two multi-billion dollar companies
- 3:11:02before I started my construction company
- 3:11:04really.
- 3:11:05>> So I I am really more businessoriented
- 3:11:07than construction. Um, I just got into
- 3:11:10this line of work because I realized if
- 3:11:13you run a construction company right,
- 3:11:15handle the financials, you can get
- 3:11:16really rich.
- 3:11:17>> Oh, yeah.
- 3:11:19>> The profit margins are insane. Um, and
- 3:11:21the profit margins on decks are really
- 3:11:23even bigger than my masonry side. So,
- 3:11:25that's kind of why I went more towards
- 3:11:26the deck arena than the masonry side
- 3:11:29that we've been doing for 10 years. But,
- 3:11:31I'd like to make you rich, too. And by
- 3:11:34doing that, you know, if you help me
- 3:11:36expand and get more leads and I and I
- 3:11:37make I hire more people, we take on more
- 3:11:40and more jobs, then the first thing I'm
- 3:11:42going to do is say, but I need you to do
- 3:11:44the same thing for me in Florida. I need
- 3:11:46you to do the same thing for me in
- 3:11:47Maryland.
- 3:11:48>> Waiting for man. So like just so you
- 3:11:50know, I'm not in it for the 800. Like
- 3:11:52that doesn't make me any profit almost.
- 3:11:54>> Oh, I understand. Yeah,
- 3:11:56>> I'm not in rich off of that. I get that.
- 3:11:58>> You know that and you can see, you know,
- 3:12:00the way I operate. you can see, you've
- 3:12:02seen my marketing, you've seen my video,
- 3:12:04you've seen I don't know if you seen my
- 3:12:05YouTube or whatever, but you know, I
- 3:12:07operate and that's how I do it. Like
- 3:12:08that's what I'm looking for. So, I'm
- 3:12:09happy that uh you know, you hopped on
- 3:12:12this call, took the time to hop here and
- 3:12:14give us a chance because I'm going to
- 3:12:16show you.
- 3:12:16>> Yeah, I I have full fa I have full faith
- 3:12:19in you. I truly do.
- 3:12:20>> Appreciate you. You strike me as a
- 3:12:22go-getter that's ready to do this and
- 3:12:24and you you're hungry and that's what t
- 3:12:26that's all it takes that and some
- 3:12:28discipline, which you've got as well.
- 3:12:29So, I think this would be a great
- 3:12:31relationship and we both could make each
- 3:12:33other a lot of money.
- 3:12:34>> Awesome, man. I appreciate it.
- 3:12:35Appreciate your time. I'll send you
- 3:12:37everything over now. I got you the
- 3:12:38payment link already. As soon as I see
- 3:12:40that going through, I'll send you the
- 3:12:41onboarding and everything else. And
- 3:12:43yeah, man. Get ready for some leads. All
- 3:12:44right.
- 3:12:45>> Sounds great, brother. I'll talk to you
- 3:12:46soon.
- 3:12:46>> Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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