How To Raise Your Kids To Lead Extraordinary Lives | Jon Butcher — Transcript
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- 0:05[-Vishen] I'm sitting here with Jon Butcher.
- 0:07One of the most extraordinary men on the
- 0:09planet. Jon lives a life that most of us
- 0:11only dream about and he's also the
- 0:13accidental creator of one of the
- 0:15foremost personal growth programs
- 0:17in the world: Lifebook
- 0:18which is a process that helps
- 0:21you create a vision for your life that
- 0:24is so spectacular that it allows you to
- 0:28consciously create how your life is
- 0:31going to unfold. I'm with Jon
- 0:33because we're gonna be talking about not
- 0:35Jon's life but Jon's philosophy on
- 0:38parenting. Because Jon's got some really
- 0:40controversial but powerful ideas on the
- 0:43nature of parenting and how to raise
- 0:46kids who can live truly exceptional
- 0:49lives. Before we begin, take a look at
- 0:52this man and make a note that he is a
- 0:56grandfather. He doesn't look
- 0:59anything like the typical grandfather
- 1:01but Jon's got four kids, two grandkids and
- 1:04a third grandkid on the way. Jon, your
- 1:07views and parenting are radical.
- 1:09For example, Jon just pulled all
- 1:13his kids and grandkids out of the public
- 1:15schooling system. I want to ask you what
- 1:18do you think are some of the greatest,
- 1:20greatest BS ideas about parenting and
- 1:25raising kids that society buys into
- 1:28today?
- 1:29[-Jon] Well, you know, I'm not here to the
- 1:32disparage anybody else's way of doing
- 1:34things. So I can speak for myself
- 1:37Missy and I over the years have had a
- 1:41lot of issues with school
- 1:44in general. If you take a look at the public
- 1:47school model it's really an industrial
- 1:49age model that teaches factory workers
- 1:51how to be factory workers. And you
- 1:53go to school at 7:30. You get out
- 1:56at 5pm after your after-school
- 1:58activities. You'll have your number two
- 2:00pencils. You sit in the class. I mean,
- 2:02it's just literally training you
- 2:04how to be a worker which is one of the
- 2:06one of the issues that we've always had
- 2:08being entrepreneurs.That's not how we
- 2:10wanted to teach our kids to be.
- 2:14But really the straw that broke the camel's
- 2:16back after years of being sort of
- 2:17dissatisfied with the way pretty much
- 2:20any school system operates is when Missy
- 2:23pointed out the fact to me one night
- 2:25that no matter what school you go to
- 2:29what that school is going to teach you
- 2:31is that your passions, your desires, your
- 2:36interests, your family life, all the
- 2:39values that we esteem the most need to
- 2:44be figured out how to fit in
- 2:46around the major part of your day which
- 2:48is going to be spent learning all this
- 2:50stuff that you may never use cumulus
- 2:54clouds, igneous rocks..How much
- 2:57of your education have you used, Vishen?
- 2:59In your life what you do right now and it's
- 3:01the same story for every successful
- 3:03person I've ever talked to. They use
- 3:05almost none of what they
- 3:07learned in school. So here you've got
- 3:10this block of time that takes up
- 3:13two-thirds of your waking hours and
- 3:16that's your duty.
- 3:17That's your responsibility. It also
- 3:19happens to be mostly complete BS. And then
- 3:22you've got to figure out how to be a
- 3:23fulfilled human being and have great
- 3:25interpersonal relationships and pursue
- 3:27your interests and passions around that.
- 3:30That all becomes secondary and that's
- 3:32when we realized. The priorities are
- 3:35flipped.
- 3:36- You're absolutely right. Folks, if you
- 3:38think about the knowledge that is going
- 3:41to be most valuable to you today.
- 3:43Imagine, for example, that you had eight
- 3:45hours today to learn anything.
- 3:47What do you think is going to help you
- 3:49more? Igneous rocks, the classification of
- 3:52clouds, some advanced math model? Or would
- 3:56it be learning how to follow your
- 3:58passion?
- 3:59How to be healthy and fit at 50? How to
- 4:02bring joy and happiness into your
- 4:04relationships? How to speed-learn? How to
- 4:08live a life of mission and purpose?
- 4:11I think most people are going to see the
- 4:12latter. But the question is: "Why don't we
- 4:15start teaching those in schools
- 4:16in the first place?" - Right, I'm
- 4:18not sure that we're capable of teaching
- 4:21those things. We have
- 4:23delegated the job of educating our kids
- 4:25to the government.
- 4:27How does that make sense? For ages and
- 4:31ages of human history parents taught
- 4:34children but we have decided that
- 4:36we don't have time for that or the that
- 4:38is not important enough for us to spend
- 4:40our time on. And I think we need to
- 4:43question that. - In the nineteen twenties
- 4:45I remember reading a quote by President
- 4:47Calvin Coolidge in the nineteen-twenties
- 4:49where he said "The purpose of education
- 4:51is to create cogs in the wheels of
- 4:54industry". So schooling evolved from a
- 4:57model designed to create efficient
- 4:59factory workers for the titans of the
- 5:02nineteen twenties. But today we want our
- 5:06kids to be more. No parent goes "Oh, I
- 5:08want my kids to be an efficient factory
- 5:09worker." - Today that is a recipe for
- 5:11disaster. So what we teach is..
- 5:14First of all, we teach the Lifebook 12
- 5:16category model. We look at the most
- 5:18important areas of your life at Lifebook
- 5:20and that's one of the things that we
- 5:21teach our kids: health and fitness, your
- 5:23intellectual life, your emotional life, your
- 5:25character, finances. Something you
- 5:29never learned about in school. How to
- 5:31have a career? Every one of our kids have
- 5:32started companies. Our 12 year old this
- 5:35year started his first company.
- 5:36The second thing that we really depend
- 5:39on to educate our kids powerfully is
- 5:43travel. International travel. As you
- 5:45know we spend months and months a year
- 5:47out of the country and that has just
- 5:49been an incredibly rich source of
- 5:52education for our kids. But Vishen, here's
- 5:55the new one. And this is the
- 5:56radical one. When Missy and I sat down a
- 6:00couple of years ago
- 6:01to really try to figure out what we
- 6:04should be teaching our kids in the first
- 6:06place, we realized that we don't even
- 6:10know. We don't even know what they need
- 6:12to be learning to prepare them for
- 6:14what's happening. I remember the
- 6:16Genius Network event that you and I were
- 6:17just at. Peter Diamandis was up there.
- 6:20And he said "Nobody outside of Silicon Valley
- 6:24knows how fast things are going to
- 6:27change in
- 6:28this world". And we're not talking about
- 6:2910 to 12 years from now. We're talking
- 6:31about two to three years from now.
- 6:32Remember that?
- 6:34So what we realized is our kids probably
- 6:38know better what they need to be
- 6:40learning right now than we do.
- 6:42they're more dialed into the internet
- 6:44There are more dialed into what's
- 6:45happening in the world that's wired right
- 6:48now than we are.
- 6:49So we just got done with a month in
- 6:51Europe. Took our kids to Europe for a
- 6:54month and we were in Croatia on the
- 6:56Dalmatian coast. And we wanted our kids
- 6:59to learn about the history of Croatia.
- 7:01But we're stressing out a little bit
- 7:03That's going to
- 7:04be really hard. We gotta pull together..
- 7:05And then we realized. No, we don't have to
- 7:08do that. We're not going to teach our
- 7:09kids about Croatia. They're going to
- 7:11teach us about Croatia. So here was the
- 7:14assignment. Justin, our twelve-year-old,
- 7:16get online starting today, learn about
- 7:20the history of the Dalmatian coast from
- 7:21300 BC to the fall of the Roman Empire
- 7:23about 400 AD. We want you to put together
- 7:27a report after you've researched and
- 7:29absorb the the key points in history and
- 7:32then Friday night at dinner you're going
- 7:34to present that to all the
- 7:36adults at the dinner table. You're going
- 7:38to present your report.
- 7:39So what did that do? It taught him
- 7:42research. Highly critical in the 21st
- 7:45century. The ability to be able to go
- 7:47online and learn the information you
- 7:49need, absorb that information, organize
- 7:52that information into a presentation and
- 7:54then give that presentation to a
- 7:56group of adults. It didn't take any energy
- 7:58from us. And this kid is telling us
- 8:01about the history of the Dalmatian coast.
- 8:03We learned a lot,
- 8:05he nailed his assignment. That's
- 8:08was a breakthrough for us. So
- 8:09that's kind of where we're going with
- 8:11this whole thing. - You know what's
- 8:12what's really funny when I hear that
- 8:13story. I remember a story in my life. I
- 8:17remember spending maybe 12 years in
- 8:19schools learning history and I can't
- 8:21remember much about what I learned in
- 8:23those history books but I can even
- 8:25tell you today the biography of Napoleon.
- 8:28And the reason for that is because when
- 8:29I was 12 years old my parents took me on
- 8:31a trip to France. And I remember
- 8:34being on a tour bus with my dad
- 8:36and he asked me to tell him about
- 8:38Napoleon. So I pulled up a little pocket
- 8:41encyclopedia that I was traveling with,
- 8:43read about Napoleon and I was assigned
- 8:46to teach my dad about Nepoleon. And now
- 8:49to this day 30 years later I still
- 8:51remember the biography of Napoleon but I
- 8:54don't remember anything I learned in
- 8:55school.
- 8:56- Here's what we call that. Can
- 8:57I tell you what we call that. We call that
- 8:58three-dimensional learning. Our daughter
- 9:00Jade is dyslexic. We found that out when
- 9:02she was in second grade so we literally
- 9:04yanked her out of school and took off to
- 9:06Southeast Asia for five months. And
- 9:08during that time she came alive and
- 9:11she'd started to get shut down in
- 9:14the school system because the kid knows
- 9:16whether they're stupid or smart.
- 9:17They feel that. And of course
- 9:21dyslexic they're always above average
- 9:23IQs but they feel stupid because they
- 9:25don't learn the same way the other kids
- 9:27learn. So we took her to Southeast Asia
- 9:29for five months. She came alive because
- 9:32she was doing three-dimensional learning.
- 9:34It wasn't just a book in front of her
- 9:36face. She was traveling. She was
- 9:38seeing the temples. She was connecting the
- 9:40dots. That is the most powerful way to
- 9:43learn for most kids I think. For some
- 9:45kids they do really really well with
- 9:47straight-up academics but I didn't
- 9:49Vishen. School was like prison for me.
- 9:51I don't know about you.
- 9:53It was prison for me too. Well, there you there you
- 9:55go. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs
- 9:56are in that same sort of deal.
- 10:00- So if there's one or two
- 10:03really powerful tips that you could give
- 10:04parents out there on how they could
- 10:06teach kids, help your kids learn the
- 10:09skills to truly build an extraordinary
- 10:11life. What would you tell these parents?
- 10:13- Well, here's the most important thing
- 10:15that I would tell parents is that you
- 10:17are responsible for your kids' education
- 10:19not the friggin' government.
- 10:20That's the most important thing to
- 10:22understand. School system is good for
- 10:25teaching the basics and the basics are
- 10:28hard. It's hard to teach a kid math. It's
- 10:30hard to teach a second, third, fourth
- 10:31grader math. It's hard to teach English
- 10:34or whatever your language is. It's hard to
- 10:36teach some of these things. That's why we
- 10:38send them to school so that we don't
- 10:39have to bother. School doesn't teach
- 10:41anything about character. If they teach
- 10:44anything about character is not what you
- 10:45want your kids to learn. They teach how
- 10:47to be sheep. How to fall in line. How to
- 10:49follow the rules. How to not disrupt the
- 10:50class. All the the skills that you need
- 10:53to be unsuccessful when you get out in
- 10:56real life.
- 10:57School doesn't teach anything about
- 10:58money. What it is, where it comes from.
- 11:01How to make it and how to have a
- 11:03successful life. School doesn't teach
- 11:05anything about interpersonal
- 11:06relationships. School doesn't teach
- 11:08anything about the most important
- 11:10subjects in life. It teaches math, teaches
- 11:13English, teachers reading, teaches writing.
- 11:16Very important. I'm not taking anything
- 11:18away from that but you need to know as a
- 11:20parent that it is your job to educate
- 11:22your kids and the school cannot,
- 11:24literally cannot do it for you. But I'll
- 11:27give you a hack if you'd like to hear it.
- 11:28Serious serious hack. This is the number
- 11:31one thing for parenting. It's the example
- 11:34that you set. So you can set aside all the
- 11:38things you need to teach your kid
- 11:40and how difficult it is to
- 11:42come up with an
- 11:44organized curriculum to get that
- 11:45information into their head. And if you
- 11:48just focus on living an extraordinary
- 11:50life yourself. If you just focus on
- 11:53dialing in your love relationship,
- 11:55dialing in a career that's a successful
- 11:58fulfilling career,
- 11:59dialing in your financial life, dialing
- 12:01in your health and fitness. Just
- 12:03literally, if you focus on living an
- 12:05extraordinary life yourself and that's
- 12:08what they're around. Because you are
- 12:10their world. You are their example of
- 12:12what a human being is. So if you can just
- 12:15do that
- 12:16that's more than half the battle. - That's
- 12:18a beautiful idea, Jon. Thank you for
- 12:20listening, guys. I hope this gives you
- 12:22some idea on how you can re-think our
- 12:24role as parents to help our kids truly
- 12:28shine.
- 12:29And help you see some of the flaws in our
- 12:32modern education system that we need to
- 12:34align ourselves with towards fixing.
- 12:35Thank you, thank you Jon. - Thank you.
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