How to Play Retribution in Midnight Season 2 — Transcript

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1. 0:00Things have changed a fair bit heading
2. 0:02into season 2 for retribution paladin.
3. 0:05So, if you want to learn how to play
4. 0:06retribution, guess what? You're in the
5. 0:08right place.
6. 0:10So, today [music] we're going to cover
7. 0:12talent builds, spell priorities, and
8. 0:14decision-making that really [music]
9. 0:15matters if you want to put up big
10. 0:17numbers and contribute meaningfully to
11. 0:19your raid. We're even going [music] to
12. 0:21cover some cool stuff like optimal bonus
13. 0:23roll pathing, too,
14. 0:24and all the changes that really come
15. 0:26with the patch.
16. 0:28But, let's briefly touch on Blizzard's
17. 0:29new philosophy and some of the class
18. 0:31changes before we get into things like
19. 0:33talents and rotation. So, what changed?
20. 0:36In 12.1, almost all DPS classes have had
21. 0:40their cooldowns and damage profiles
22. 0:42changed.
23. 0:43Damage has been [music] shifted out of
24. 0:45cooldowns like Avenging Wrath and moved
25. 0:47into regular rotational abilities.
26. 0:50It's probably a healthy change for the
27. 0:51game overall,
28. 0:53>> [music]
29. 0:53>> but for red at least, it has a pretty
30. 0:55limited impact.
31. 0:56Speaking of healthy changes, [music]
32. 0:58we're also now less reliant on having
33. 1:00the Skyfury buff, so you won't always
34. 1:02have to have a shaman in the group.
35. 1:05When taking [music] crusading strikes,
36. 1:06we now no longer generate additional
37. 1:09holy power from that extra auto attack
38. 1:12from Skyfury. To compensate, [music]
39. 1:14crusading strikes was buffed 35%
40. 1:17and honestly, it's a pretty big change.
41. 1:19We auto attack very quickly.
42. 1:21This change [music] does force us to
43. 1:23play crusading strikes in every single
44. 1:25build we run.
45. 1:27>> [music]
46. 1:27>> This does create a better flow of
47. 1:29incoming holy power
48. 1:30and it is more consistent with Art of
49. 1:32War procs.
50. 1:33I I think it's a pretty good change.
51. 1:35Speaking of good changes, our apex
52. 1:38talent now allows Art of War or
53. 1:40Righteous Cause to stack up to two
54. 1:42charges.
55. 1:43This is a massive quality of life change
56. 1:45for us and puts less of focus on
57. 1:47immediately using Art of War when
58. 1:49[music] it happens.
59. 1:50Moving forward, we should munch less of
60. 1:53these procs if playing correctly,
61. 1:54[music] and that's pretty great.
62. 1:56Templar had some weird changes here
63. 1:58though.
64. 1:59>> [music]
65. 1:59>> Hammer of Light now costs three Holy
66. 2:01Power, down from five. And it did feel a
67. 2:04bit odd initially, but with some time
68. 2:06[music] and practice, it's going to feel
69. 2:08normal again.
70. 2:09Uh it's not a huge change, but it is
71. 2:11something of note.
72. 2:12And all of the other changes outlined
73. 2:14here just [music] move damage around
74. 2:17from our burst windows into our regular
75. 2:19rotation.
76. 2:20This is going to make our profile
77. 2:22slightly more flat,
78. 2:24but [music] the trade-off is our damage
79. 2:26will just be slightly higher all of the
80. 2:28time rather than our burst window. I
81. 2:30think it's probably a win overall, uh
82. 2:33but we'll see.
83. 2:35I do want to address the elephant in the
84. 2:37room here though.
85. 2:38On the patch launch,
86. 2:39>> [music]
87. 2:40>> Ret is not tuned particularly well.
88. 2:43We're simming right around 200k,
89. 2:45>> [music]
90. 2:46>> and that is substantially behind other
91. 2:47classes. And quite frankly, Ret
92. 2:49desperately needs a buff.
93. 2:51As with previous seasons, Blizzard is
94. 2:53going to do tuning. Maybe some as early
95. 2:56as Friday, and it's going to ideally get
96. 2:58us in a more competitive spot. So, it's
97. 3:01not time to panic. Changes [music] will
98. 3:03come, but right now, you might be a
99. 3:05little bit lower than you're going to
100. 3:06end up being. Before we dive in further
101. 3:08though, I do want to have one reminder
102. 3:10here. The content of this guide is
103. 3:12subject [music] to change. Blizzard
104. 3:14nerfs and buffs things all the time, and
105. 3:16new things get discovered. So, do keep
106. 3:18an eye out on this specific channel for
107. 3:20future updates, and don't forget to look
108. 3:22at your written guide resources like
109. 3:23Wowhead or Icy Veins.
110. 3:25And if you haven't already yet, join the
111. 3:28JessierTV Discord as well as the
112. 3:30Retribution Paladin Discord linked
113. 3:31below.
114. 3:32So, let's lay the groundwork here with
115. 3:34talents first.
116. 3:35>> [music]
117. 3:35>> I think it's a core foundation to build
118. 3:37on the rest of this guide.
119. 3:38For better or for worse, Retribution has
120. 3:41had limited talent choice [music] in
121. 3:42Midnight. You're going to have a set of
122. 3:44core talents you're always going to
123. 3:46pick, and based upon your encounter or
124. 3:48[music] situation, you're just going to
125. 3:50swap a few points around. We are playing
126. 3:52both Templar and Herald of the Sun this
127. 3:55tier. Templar does [music] better single
128. 3:57target alongside burst AoE, where Herald
129. 4:00of the Sun definitely shines [music]
130. 4:02with sustained AoE. You're You're going
131. 4:04to play both.
132. 4:05So, I'd encourage [music] you to check
133. 4:06out Warcraft Logs for the most
134. 4:08up-to-date player-driven information
135. 4:10because things can change week over week
136. 4:13as people [music] learn and adjust how
137. 4:15they play fights. But, let's start with
138. 4:16Templar.
139. 4:17Here's what the talent tree looks like.
140. 4:20The orange points here are mostly
141. 4:21non-negotiable. [music]
142. 4:23If you're hitting multiple targets or
143. 4:25are in Mythic Plus, all you'll do is
144. 4:27you'll swap Heart of the Crusader
145. 4:28[music] points for the purple icons
146. 4:30here.
147. 4:31You'll also want to swap Divine
148. 4:33Resonance to Quickened Invocation and
149. 4:35Seal of the Templar to Divine Exaction.
150. 4:38You can go one step further and swap
151. 4:40Jurisdiction for Sanctify, but I think
152. 4:42that trades off a bit too much single
153. 4:44target. But, we'll have to sort of get a
154. 4:46feel for it what numbers are going to be
155. 4:47like in a real environment, [music] not
156. 4:49just on the PTO.
157. 4:51Herald of the Sun is similar, but it has
158. 4:53one thing that's going to be a little
159. 4:54bit different.
160. 4:55>> [music]
161. 4:55>> You're always going to take Tempest of
162. 4:57the Lightbringer if you have the new
163. 4:59four-piece.
164. 5:00Due to how the four-piece interacts with
165. 5:02Divine Storm and how Herald really leans
166. 5:04into Divine Storm damage, it's [music]
167. 5:06going to be worth it to take that node
168. 5:08on single target. I know it's a little
169. 5:10bit weird, but it's worth it.
170. 5:12Similarly, you're going to remove points
171. 5:14from Heart of the Crusader [music] to
172. 5:15pick up any of your purple AoE nodes
173. 5:17here.
174. 5:18There isn't a ton of choice for us. For
175. 5:20the majority of our talent selections,
176. 5:21they're just going to be locked in. We
177. 5:23will likely swap between Templar and
178. 5:26Herald of the Sun [music] based on fight
179. 5:27requirements. And as of current tuning,
180. 5:30I could see a world where we play Herald
181. 5:31of the Sun on Lost [music] Explorers and
182. 5:34Twin Fangs because of the sustained
183. 5:36two-target nature of the fight. But,
184. 5:38we'll have to see a little bit closer to
185. 5:40the end of this week what tuning we
186. 5:42might get.
187. 5:44Maybe more fights if the fight design
188. 5:46synergizes well with the damage profile
189. 5:48Herald of the Sun brings,
190. 5:49>> [music]
191. 5:50>> we'll see soon.
192. 5:51But, I will note if you somehow luck
193. 5:53into getting your raid to give you power
194. 5:55infusion [music] all of the time, Herald
195. 5:57will definitely be a great option. Power
196. 5:59infusion scales way better with Herald
197. 6:02of the Sun than it does for Templar,
198. 6:03[music]
199. 6:04and if you play in Herald, you're going
200. 6:06to want it as much as humanly possible.
201. 6:08>> [music]
202. 6:09>> Reality is, it's likely going to go to
203. 6:11another range DPS.
204. 6:13If we're buffed by a huge amount, then
205. 6:15great, [music] maybe you'll be the
206. 6:16recipient, but we'll see.
207. 6:18So, let's talk fundamentals.
208. 6:20The fundamentals for retribution haven't
209. 6:22really changed much [music] since
210. 6:23Midnight's launch. The core gameplay
211. 6:25loop still focuses on building and
212. 6:27spending Holy Power through use of a
213. 6:29priority system. [music]
214. 6:30If you have an ability available that's
215. 6:32high priority, you're going to want to
216. 6:34use it and then move on to the next
217. 6:35logical choice.
218. 6:37All about building Holy Power and
219. 6:39spending [music] Holy Power and wasting
220. 6:41as little as possible.
221. 6:43Because some of our talent interactions,
222. 6:45>> [music]
223. 6:45>> we're usually going to want to spend
224. 6:47Holy Power really as soon as you're able
225. 6:49to do so. And here's a quick list why.
226. 6:52Auto attacks [music] generate Holy
227. 6:53Power, and by spending at three Holy
228. 6:55Power, you're going to keep your gains
229. 6:57consistent. You're never going to munch
230. 6:58those gains [music] from Crusading
231. 6:59Strikes.
232. 7:01Final Verdict can also reset Judgment
233. 7:03and Hammer of Wrath.
234. 7:04So, by spending early, you might get
235. 7:07your generators back faster.
236. 7:09And then auto attacks can proc Art of
237. 7:11War, and that's a high priority buff
238. 7:13that you want to consume [music] very
239. 7:15quickly, and it generates two Holy
240. 7:16Power.
241. 7:18We'll get into more of the details in
242. 7:19the rotational section.
243. 7:21In short, we generate a ton of Holy
244. 7:23Power, so you really want to spend it as
245. 7:25soon as you can to minimize [music]
246. 7:26waste.
247. 7:27It is worth mentioning what our
248. 7:29two-piece and four-piece are going to do
249. 7:30this tier, since it's going to impact
250. 7:32our rotation conversation here.
251. 7:35The two-piece is going to let Divine
252. 7:37Purpose proc more frequently and provide
253. 7:39a pretty good bonus to Holy damage. The
254. 7:41up [music] time is pretty favorable on
255. 7:43this set and it does smooth out the
256. 7:44rotation by having free spenders.
257. 7:47The four-piece [music] is a bit
258. 7:48different though. When you consume
259. 7:50divine purpose, your next alternate
260. 7:53spender is going to activate divine
261. 7:54arbiter and get [music] a big burst of
262. 7:56holy damage.
263. 7:57So, if you use divine purpose with final
264. 7:59verdict, you can activate divine arbiter
265. 8:02with divine [music] storm or hammer of
266. 8:04light.
267. 8:05The opposite is true as well.
268. 8:07If you consume divine purpose with
269. 8:09[music] divine storm, you'll be able to
270. 8:10trigger arbiter with hammer of light or
271. 8:13final verdict.
272. 8:15It just [music] lets us do a one-two
273. 8:16combo with every divine purpose.
274. 8:19There is some nuance to when we do this
275. 8:21[music] with Templar, but for the most
276. 8:22part, the logic here is going to be
277. 8:24similar.
278. 8:25But, let's talk details. [music]
279. 8:27I'll have two sections for this, one for
280. 8:29Templar and the other one for Herald of
281. 8:31the Sun because they are slightly
282. 8:32different. Your choice of hero talent
283. 8:35will [music] impact your spell
284. 8:36priorities and I'm going to outline them
285. 8:38here. As I mentioned before, we are
286. 8:40going to play both hero talents this
287. 8:42tier, but let's start with [music]
288. 8:43Templar.
289. 8:44Starting with the opener, this is going
290. 8:46to be your launch sequence and it's
291. 8:48going to be the same every time and it's
292. 8:49identical to what [music] we did in
293. 8:51patch 12.0.
294. 8:52You'll start by applying expurgation
295. 8:54with blade of justice.
296. 8:56Follow up with execution sentence.
297. 8:59Then you'll hit your wake of ashes and
298. 9:01hammer of light combo.
299. 9:03And lastly, you'll finish with divine
300. 9:04toll and that will allow you to enter
301. 9:06into our normal rotation framework.
302. 9:09For this normal rotation, you're going
303. 9:11to want to prioritize using hammer of
304. 9:13light when available, spending holy
305. 9:15power when capped, [music]
306. 9:17using your wake of ashes hammer of light
307. 9:19combo on cool down, and then you're also
308. 9:21going to want to keep divine [music]
309. 9:22toll synced with cool downs where
310. 9:23applicable. For our main holy power
311. 9:25generation, we're going to want to rely
312. 9:27primarily on blade of justice and the
313. 9:29art of war procs,
314. 9:30>> [music]
315. 9:31>> and then we're going to fill down time
316. 9:32with hammer of wrath and judgment.
317. 9:34There is some nuance here now that art
318. 9:36of war and righteous [music] stacked to
319. 9:37two, but if you're at two stacks and
320. 9:40less than five Holy Power, you're always
321. 9:42going to want to send the Blade of
322. 9:44Justice to [music] prevent munching.
323. 9:46Otherwise, you're just going to use it
324. 9:48when it's available.
325. 9:49Crusading Strikes also gives [music] us
326. 9:51a constant constant flow of Holy Power,
327. 9:54so you're going to be spending at a
328. 9:56pretty frequent rate.
329. 9:57>> [music]
330. 9:57>> So, as of recording, our tier set
331. 10:00four-piece can be ignored when playing
332. 10:02Templar on single target only. [music]
333. 10:05Hammer of Light activates the bonus, so
334. 10:07we don't really have to play around
335. 10:09[music] it. If this is buffed in the
336. 10:10coming weeks, we'll likely have to
337. 10:12change our rotational priority. However,
338. 10:14[music]
339. 10:15right now, we don't need to.
340. 10:17If we are playing Templar in any AoE
341. 10:19situation, we're [music] still going to
342. 10:20have to rotate our spenders.
343. 10:23The rotation is mostly the same, but
344. 10:26we're going [music] to place a high
345. 10:27priority on activating Divine Arbiter
346. 10:29through your alternate spender.
347. 10:32So, if you're AoEing and you consume a
348. 10:33Divine Purpose with Divine Storm,
349. 10:35[music]
350. 10:36you're going to want to spend your next
351. 10:37three Holy Power on Templar's Verdict or
352. 10:40Hammer of Light to activate. It does a
353. 10:42meaningful contribution to AoE, so you
354. 10:43don't want [music] to mess that up.
355. 10:46Herald of the Sun, compared to Templar,
356. 10:47is mostly the same, but it has two major
357. 10:50differences.
358. 10:51The first is Hammer of Wrath is
359. 10:53prioritized [music]
360. 10:54during Avenging Wrath to activate Walk
361. 10:56into Light.
362. 10:58Walk into Light simply will consume any
363. 11:00Blade of Justice charges [music] you
364. 11:01have at the same time you use Hammer of
365. 11:04Wrath.
366. 11:04This means more damage.
367. 11:06And the second thing is Herald will
368. 11:08always try to activate the Divine
369. 11:10Arbiter buff. Whether it's single target
370. 11:12or AoE, you're [music] going to want to
371. 11:14activate it.
372. 11:15And Herald has a slightly different
373. 11:17opener, but it's very slight.
374. 11:19Instead of having your Wake of Ashes
375. 11:21Hammer of Light combo, you're just going
376. 11:23to weave in Final [music] Verdict to
377. 11:25activate Divine Arbiter.
378. 11:30For AoE, there's almost going to be no
379. 11:32difference.
380. 11:34And for Herald of the Sun, it's the
381. 11:35single target rotation, but you're using
382. 11:37Divine Storm [music] instead.
383. 11:39The key thing to remember here is you're
384. 11:41alternate spenders when consuming Divine
385. 11:43Purpose.
386. 11:44As a related but important note, your
387. 11:46first Final Verdict and Avenging Wrath
388. 11:48will also trigger Imperian Legacy, so do
389. 11:51keep that [music] in mind.
390. 11:53And at the end of the day, it's really
391. 11:54about keeping your cooldowns on cooldown
392. 11:57as much as possible [music] and
393. 11:58optimizing your 1-minute burst windows.
394. 12:00If you do that successfully, you'll
395. 12:02[music] be in a good spot.
396. 12:04And remember, any Holy Power wasted is
397. 12:07lost damage. [music] So, try not to
398. 12:08waste Holy Power.
399. 12:10So, let's shift gears and talk more
400. 12:12about character prep and some other
401. 12:13related topics.
402. 12:15The first of which is gearing and bonus
403. 12:17rolls.
404. 12:18Bonus [music] rolls are back this tier
405. 12:20and things got a bit weird.
406. 12:22The best thing you can do right now, for
407. 12:24the large majority of players, is to
408. 12:26take a bonus roll from your [music]
409. 12:27weekly Great Vault every single time,
410. 12:30with a couple exceptions. This gets you
411. 12:32guaranteed high-impact [music]
412. 12:33gear and crest saves. And everyone's
413. 12:36going to target
414. 12:37>> [music]
415. 12:37>> slightly differently based on how
416. 12:39progressed you are, but the goal is to
417. 12:41use your coins where you're going to get
418. 12:43the highest DPS on average. And then
419. 12:46you're going to want to target some rare
420. 12:47gear, too.
421. 12:48So, here are some of the high-priority
422. 12:50pieces that you're likely going to want
423. 12:51to pick up.
424. 12:53Maz'rar, the axe [music] from the Coiled
425. 12:55Altar, is massive. It's got a great
426. 12:58can't trip effect, and if you're coining
427. 13:00it on heroic, it's going to give you one
428. 13:02out of six [music] mythic gear. So, you
429. 13:04can spend your crest and upgrade this
430. 13:06thing and give yourself a best-in-slot
431. 13:08weapon all the way up until you killed
432. 13:10Coiled Altar on mythic. For a lot of
433. 13:13guilds,
434. 13:14you're only going to kill Coiled Altar
435. 13:16on mythic once, [music] when you extend.
436. 13:18So, the goal is get this weapon upgraded
437. 13:21and you're going to use it for the
438. 13:22majority of the tier, at least until you
439. 13:24would coin a version on mythic.
440. 13:26>> [music]
441. 13:26>> The second priority item is Soul Gien's
442. 13:28Guillotine Technique.
443. 13:30Also from the Coiled Altar, this trinket
444. 13:33pairs incredibly [music] well with
445. 13:35Mazeroth.
446. 13:36You get an additional can trip effect
447. 13:38and cleaves to a secondary target. Since
448. 13:41secondary targets are relatively [music]
449. 13:42present through this entire raid, call
450. 13:44it ad slop if you want, but there is a
451. 13:46fair bit of it.
452. 13:48You're always going [music] to get some
453. 13:49high value from this trinket, so it's
454. 13:51well worth targeting.
455. 13:52The third and fourth options come from
456. 13:54Ulatek specifically. It's the Acrobane
457. 13:57Reliquary Neck, which has an additional
458. 13:59socket and a can trip effect, both
459. 14:01[music] of which are very strong, but
460. 14:02not as strong as the trinket or the
461. 14:04weapon.
462. 14:05And the legs from Ulatek, the Unbound
463. 14:07Reign-Cord Legs. Those [music] have a
464. 14:09nice mastery bonus and are worth picking
465. 14:11up, but it's not a huge impact.
466. 14:14I will give a special note to the Heart
467. 14:16of Ulatek trinket off of Ulatek. It's
468. 14:18very good, we want [music] it,
469. 14:21but it's not as good as some of the
470. 14:23other options here.
471. 14:24And do keep in mind, you're still going
472. 14:26to receive loot from your regular raid
473. 14:28progression.
474. 14:29And we're going to have coins coming in
475. 14:31the 12.1.5 [music]
476. 14:32patch, but your priority, at least for
477. 14:34now, is to always target [music] the
478. 14:36gear that will make the most impact and
479. 14:38is difficult to acquire.
480. 14:40You're filling out those slots that are
481. 14:41going to be critical, which are weapons
482. 14:43[music] and trinkets, because they're
483. 14:45big contributors to our DPS.
484. 14:47Weapon being the biggest one.
485. 14:49And so, as of recording, my plan is
486. 14:51going to be using my [music] first
487. 14:53couple of coins on Coiled Altar on
488. 14:55heroic. And this will guarantee my
489. 14:58[music] best mythic weapon and trinket.
490. 15:00The other pieces on that loot table are
491. 15:02still [music] good since you'll get them
492. 15:03at a one out of six myth track, but
493. 15:05you're not going to get a crest thing
494. 15:07with those.
495. 15:08Really,
496. 15:09the best possible scenario is you spend
497. 15:11two coins and both of the coins get you
498. 15:14Mazeroth and [music] the trinket.
499. 15:17Otherwise, you might have to wait up to
500. 15:18five weeks to get what you need,
501. 15:20>> [music]
502. 15:20>> but it's worth it. These items are
503. 15:22really good. The other special thing is
504. 15:24this is going to allow you to skip
505. 15:26crafting [music] weapon and to go
506. 15:28straight into other crafts like the
507. 15:30lower ring as well when crests [music]
508. 15:32are available.
509. 15:33It's going to be a little bit weird this
510. 15:34tier, but we'll we'll get through it.
511. 15:36So, let's briefly [music] touch on
512. 15:37stats. You're going to prioritize
513. 15:40mastery with haste and crit being about
514. 15:42equal.
515. 15:42>> [music]
516. 15:42>> Verse is still the worst stat for us.
517. 15:46This is a general rule of thumb, but
518. 15:47your best bet is going [music] to always
519. 15:49be to sim your character in Droptimizer
520. 15:52to see what upgrades are [music] going
521. 15:53to be the best for you. This is even
522. 15:55more relevant because the catalyst now
523. 15:57maintains the stats of an item piece.
524. 16:00So, if you want to catalyze shoulders
525. 16:02and they have haste and versatility on
526. 16:05them and you catalyze them, yes, you get
527. 16:07the tier set, but you also get the
528. 16:08stats.
529. 16:10This just [music] gives us a lot more,
530. 16:12we'll say, fine-tuning in our stats.
531. 16:14There are some good items we can pick up
532. 16:16like the shoulders from Murder Row, the
533. 16:19gloves [music] from Danath Trollbane,
534. 16:21and the helm from the first boss in the
535. 16:23raid. Everything's going to be different
536. 16:25based on what stats you currently have,
537. 16:28but using the tools you have available
538. 16:29will make a big difference.
539. 16:31Our consumables are going to look
540. 16:33slightly different this time around.
541. 16:34[music]
542. 16:35Yet again, run your character through
543. 16:36RaidBots and see what's best for you.
544. 16:39There are situations where you might
545. 16:40switch your weapon to a mastery enchant,
546. 16:42gems to [music] the flawless masterful
547. 16:45peridot, and our potion might end up
548. 16:47being the potion of recklessness [music]
549. 16:49instead of Lethal Potential.
550. 16:51That's all going to change based on what
551. 16:52gear you have.
552. 16:54One of the things I will note this tier
553. 16:55as well is a lot of our damage is coming
554. 16:58from external [music] sources.
555. 17:00So, you're looking at things like
556. 17:01Zul'jin's Technique or [music] the venom
557. 17:03dot from your weapon and and other
558. 17:05related things. So, mastery, while it's
559. 17:08still a really good stat for us, doesn't
560. 17:10help those other abilities scale. So,
561. 17:12that's why we're going to see an
562. 17:13increase in things like haste and crit
563. 17:15on our gear because [music] haste and
564. 17:17crit impact other non-retribution
565. 17:21damage sources. [music]
566. 17:22If you've made it this far, thanks for
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578. 17:44Best of luck in the Venomous Abyss and
579. 17:46[music] season 2 of Midnight. We'll see
580. 17:48you in the next video.
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