How to Know When to Quit a Business — Transcript
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- 0:00Big mistake that uh people make
- 0:02is they
- 0:05they don't focus.
- 0:06And that's the one that you're talking
- 0:08about, which is the do I start a new
- 0:10business, do I fix the business I'm at?
- 0:12And the woman in the red dress is always
- 0:14my my joke, but
- 0:15>> Mhm.
- 0:16>> the new opportunity always looks more
- 0:17interesting, which is why it's so
- 0:19compelling as a sales pitch. It's like
- 0:21most sales pitches are red woman in the
- 0:23red dress, and that's you do it that way
- 0:24cuz that's what convinces the most
- 0:25people.
- 0:26>> that.
- 0:27>> Of course, that's what convinces the
- 0:28most people to switch opportunities cuz
- 0:30you say, "If you only knew, it's so much
- 0:32easier over here, right?"
- 0:33>> Mhm.
- 0:33>> But the reality is that all businesses
- 0:34have difficulty. It's just what
- 0:36difficulty you want. And so, different
- 0:38styles of businesses have difficulties
- 0:40at different stages. So, like
- 0:41information businesses, for example, are
- 0:42the easiest businesses to start, hardest
- 0:44to scale. Software businesses are the
- 0:45hardest businesses to start, the easiest
- 0:47to scale. E-commerce is somewhere in the
- 0:49middle, right? You have to have capital,
- 0:51but then there's scale there you
- 0:52logistics supply chain issues on the
- 0:53back end. So, like there's kind of
- 0:54difficulties on both sides. And so,
- 0:56every type of business, service, for
- 0:58example, easy to start, harder to scale.
- 0:59You can scale, it just takes longer
- 1:00because you have to train people and
- 1:01recruit people, and people are the
- 1:02business. And so, like there's always
- 1:04difficulty with whatever business you
- 1:05have, and what happens is when you
- 1:08switch opportunities, you then start at
- 1:10zero, you quickly get success because
- 1:12you pass the levels you already know,
- 1:13but then you run into the same boss
- 1:14again.
- 1:15>> Mhm.
- 1:15>> And so, what ends up happening is now
- 1:17you have two businesses you're CEO of
- 1:18because you couldn't end the other one
- 1:19cuz you still need to live. And then you
- 1:21start this other one. And so, maybe this
- 1:22is the better opportunity, but you still
- 1:23have this old one. And then you can't
- 1:25give it up because you're like, "But I
- 1:26have customers, and I have to keep my
- 1:27promises there, and I have my What do I
- 1:29do about my team?" And there's all these
- 1:30questions that surround that, which is
- 1:32why you can own as many businesses as
- 1:34you want, but you can only run one.
- 1:36>> Mhm.
- 1:36>> And that's the thing that everyone
- 1:37messes up, and especially if you're
- 1:38small, you don't have the resources to
- 1:39run two. So, you have to make the hard
- 1:40decision. You have to say no, I'm going
- 1:42to continue to fix this because it's my
- 1:45belief that every business can get to
- 1:47$100 million a year. Every business.
- 1:49>> Even solopreneur?
- 1:50>> Yeah. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say solo
- 1:52The solopreneur is an organizational
- 1:53structure, not a business.
- 1:54>> Mhm.
- 1:55>> So, whatever business that solopreneur
- 1:57is in, if they sell wallets, if they
- 1:59sell paintings, if they I mean whatever
- 2:00it is whatever it is that you sell, you
- 2:02could sell a hundred million dollars
- 2:03worth of it. For the like I can't think
- 2:04of a business. Now, if you're like,
- 2:06"Well, you can't say that for a local
- 2:07dry cleaner." So, I'm like, "Yeah, then
- 2:09you open more." But, I consider that
- 2:10still the same business, right? And so,
- 2:13the question then remains,
- 2:15"Why isn't your business a hundred
- 2:17million dollar business?" And whatever
- 2:18the answer to that question is is the
- 2:19problem you need to solve. And if you
- 2:20don't know how to solve it, which is
- 2:21what most entrepreneurs are faced with,
- 2:23they then think, "Oh, it's not me. It's
- 2:26the business. It's the industry. It's
- 2:27the market. It's the vehicle."
- 2:29>> Mhm.
- 2:29>> Right? And sometimes I regret that I
- 2:31talked about how switching opportunity
- 2:32vehicles because like if I had played
- 2:33out the other alternative, I probably
- 2:34have two hundred three hundred gyms
- 2:35right now. And I'd still be just as
- 2:36rich.
- 2:37>> Mhm.
- 2:37>> And so,
- 2:39did it like maybe I make less money now
- 2:40than I would if I had stuck with it. I
- 2:42don't know. Like and we can never know.
- 2:44But, I can say that the equal opposite
- 2:45of that is if you do one thing for fifty
- 2:47years and you get better at it, you're
- 2:48probably going to make a lot of money.
- 2:49>> That is a great permission because I
- 2:50think ever since I heard you first
- 2:52actually talking about opportunity
- 2:53vehicles, I was like, "I might not be in
- 2:56the right opportunity vehicle. Am I like
- 2:58doing everything wrong because I'm just
- 3:00my drawing in a boat and everybody's
- 3:02[laughter] on the
- 3:02>> Yeah, it's such a compelling visual. And
- 3:04it's just cuz it speaks to the pain.
- 3:06It's just the ultimate easy button is if
- 3:07I only had this other vehicle and if I
- 3:09were just doing the same thing I'm doing
- 3:10now, I would get ten times more than I'm
- 3:12getting or a hundred times more. And the
- 3:14thing is is that sometimes it's true,
- 3:17but it's so attractive that nine times
- 3:19out of ten it isn't true because you're
- 3:21it's only true when the model is the
- 3:23limiter.
- 3:24>> Mhm.
- 3:25>> But, most times it's not. It's just it's
- 3:27a limiter if you if you measure on a one
- 3:28year time horizon.
- 3:30>> Yeah.
- 3:30>> But, Mr. Panda has a chicken shop.
- 3:32And he's worth ten billion. So,
- 3:35like is that the is having a Chinese
- 3:36chicken store
- 3:38like the the best opportunity vehicle?
- 3:40No. Did he make it work? Yes. So, it's
- 3:43just it's just expanding the horizon of
- 3:45And that's why it's starting a business
- 3:46that you actually care about the
- 3:47customer is ultimately the thing that
- 3:48matters the most in the long run because
- 3:49if you really care about the customer
- 3:51and the product that you deliver,
- 3:53then you don't do it for the opportunity
- 3:56vehicle reason and the making money
- 3:57reason. And then making money occurs,
- 3:59but because you stick with it, it just
- 4:00keeps getting bigger and bigger and
- 4:01bigger. Because you keep improving it,
- 4:02because you love it, it keeps getting
- 4:03bigger and bigger and bigger. You
- 4:04maintain your reputation because the
- 4:05only reason you did it to begin with is
- 4:06because you care.
- 4:07>> That's
- 4:08actually the end talk, I think, that
- 4:10many people are missing. It's like, "Oh,
- 4:12what niche do I go in? Is it like
- 4:14>> Start wherever one you want.
- 4:15>> Yeah.
- 4:15>> But do the one that like it's either
- 4:16some pain you overcame, something you're
- 4:18very passionate about, or it's uh it's a
- 4:21professional skill. But I'll I'll I'll
- 4:22say this other thing that I think is
- 4:23worth doing is that people have this
- 4:25fallacy that they're that they've made
- 4:26the wrong pick. Like, what if I pick
- 4:28wrong, right? I picked the wrong
- 4:29business. I picked the wrong niche. Uh
- 4:31the consolation I can give you is that
- 4:32if you stick with it,
- 4:34no matter what, all businesses end in
- 4:36the same place,
- 4:37which is
- 4:38you have a team of five to seven people,
- 4:40you have a head of marketing, you have a
- 4:41head of sales, you have a head of IT,
- 4:42head of legal, head of ops, head of
- 4:44finance, and they're really all
- 4:46competent people, and they run the
- 4:47business. And so, your actual day-to-day
- 4:50is the same.
- 4:50>> Mhm.
- 4:51>> Whether you're selling, you know,
- 4:53shaving cream, or you're selling
- 4:54communities, or you're selling private
- 4:56equity. Fundamentally, you're going to
- 4:58have a team of people that those
- 4:59functions of the business have to occur.
- 5:01And they're probably rolling into you.
- 5:02And so, if you think about that as the
- 5:04natural extreme of any business, then it
- 5:06kind of doesn't matter
- 5:08what you do to get there. If you like
- 5:10the game of business.
- 5:11>> Yeah.
- 5:11>> And so, that's kind of how I see it is
- 5:13like, if I'm worried about picking the
- 5:14wrong thing, it's like, well, no matter
- 5:15what, I'm going to end up in the same
- 5:16place as long as I just stick with it.
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