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0:00Welcome back to Market Bubble, [ __ ]
0:02It's a show all about investing in
0:04yourself, where we feel an overwhelming
0:06majority of young men today are in a
0:08losing position. How are we positioned?
0:11Find out today and every Thursday at 1
0:13p.m. PST live on twitch.tv/fazebanks.
0:18And I'm here joined with my tall,
0:20beautiful co-host, Anom.
0:22>> Yo yo, what's good, fellas? How we
0:23doing?
0:24>> And he is live on Twitter at the exact
0:26same time every Thursday.
0:27>> Yes, sir. actually technically not the
0:29same time, right? Because as you can
0:31see, top left corner of the screen, he's
0:34in New York, so it's actually literally
0:35not quite literally not the same time.
0:37>> Yeah.
0:37>> But um but yeah, he's live. He's live on
0:40Twitter right now as well. And yeah, he
0:42is the um he is the tech [ __ ] banks full
0:47screen. Where the [ __ ] is it? There we
0:49go. We'll get Sorry. Um yeah, he is the
0:52tech finance big brain side of this. I'm
0:54responsible for media um content
0:57attention that that piece. And yeah,
0:59listen folks, we open up Twitter and
1:01everything is [ __ ] smoked. Politics
1:03is smoked. They're lying to you. Um
1:05dating is [ __ ] absolutely fried. The
1:06incel rate is all-time high. Marriage
1:09rates are collapsing. And AI AI is
1:11coming for your jobs. It's [ __ ] your
1:13wives. It's taking it's killing your
1:15kids. Okay, you're [ __ ] And um yeah,
1:19you're going to need three things.
1:20You're going to need to make as much
1:21money as possible. Duh.
1:24two,
1:25command as much attention as possible or
1:27at minimum understand attention in the
1:29way it works. This episode actually
1:30specifically, we're going to get very,
1:32very deep on that one. And then three,
1:34of course, is AI literacy. Understand
1:36this tech because it's going to take
1:38everything. It's taking over everything.
1:40And while we're long-term optimistic on
1:41AI, we think that this tech inevitably,
1:44you know, makes everything free and
1:45cures cancer and solves world hunger.
1:48The short term could get dark. Um, and
1:50if you're a [ __ ] parallegal in your
1:52last semester of law school with
1:53$400,000 in debt and your parents aren't
1:56rich, you are [ __ ] smoked, pal. So,
1:59yeah. Um, cool.
2:03Most recent one.
2:05Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, sorry. Yeah.
2:09And on that note, production was was was
2:11making [ __ ] faces at me and and Yeah.
2:14Cool. On that note, we'll we'll pass it
2:15over to Z. And there's there's some
2:17breaking news happening in the markets
2:18right now. Yeah. There's a couple things
2:19that we want to touch on.
2:20>> Yes, sir. Yeah, we I feel like we
2:22started this show as soon as stuff
2:23started popping off in crypto. Um some
2:25really cool stuff happening today. Um a
2:27few things that I'm going to pull up and
2:29talk about, but the first one so we have
2:33let me see
2:36here we go. Um yes, a big announcement
2:39today from Coinbase actually. So
2:40Coinbase bought the native stable coin
2:43issuer on Hyperlid which is Native
2:45Markets. Previously it used to be USDH
2:47and now it's going to be uh circle
2:49stable coin which is USDC. So the entire
2:52treasury um TVL on Hyperlid which is
2:54around $5 billion is now going to be
2:57supported by Coinbase and Circle. So
3:00this added an entirely new revenue line
3:03to Hyperlid and also great alignment
3:05with Coinbase which is one of the
3:06strongest US companies for crypto. They
3:09have all the regulatory advantage. Um
3:11really great stamp of them stamping
3:13Hyperlquid here. I think it's people
3:14kind of see them as competitors because
3:16they offer a lot of the same trading
3:17things like trading spot, trading purp
3:20um but this alignment is really crucial.
3:21So on that $5 billion
3:24um they are going to be making around
3:30like so it's like 3.5% I think on the
3:33stable coin uh annually per year. Um and
3:36with the way that they activated this um
3:41on Hyperlid, 90% of those revenue is
3:43going to go directly to to Hype. So in
3:45the same way that um Hype makes revenues
3:47from all their per fees um on traders
3:49also going to make revenue from all the
3:51stable coins that are on the platform,
3:52which is huge. So this added like around
3:54150 mil estimated.
3:56>> I don't know one person that doesn't
3:57like Hyperlid.
3:59>> Yeah. All the competitors, that's about
4:01it.
4:01>> Yeah. That and that's a good sign,
4:03right?
4:03>> Yeah. Yeah. And um even some of their
4:05like competitors as we see are starting
4:07to kind of align interest and align
4:09forces with them, right? I saw a tweet
4:10right before the show something along
4:12the lines of um revenue up 25% but the
4:15chart only moved up 4%. With question
4:17marks and concerns around that. What are
4:19your thoughts on that?
4:20>> Um yeah, the market was slow to respond.
4:22I mean I think like when crypto is like
4:25at the forefront of people's minds in a
4:27bull market um we respond a lot quicker
4:30to news. Um, just generally, yeah, they
4:33increased the revenue by like 25% and
4:35the to at the time the token was only up
4:374%. I think that was after the
4:38announcement.
4:39>> Oh, it's up it's up 13%.
4:40>> It's up. It's up now. Like it moved
4:42throughout the day. It was up like 4% at
4:44like 10:00 a.m. and now it's up like 13
4:46to 15% on the day. Um, so yeah, it's
4:49it's done really well. I mean, also,
4:53uh, we also have the Clarity Act, which
4:54also happened today.
4:57um they essentially pushed it through to
5:01the the to the Senate to evaluate it.
5:03And if people don't know what's the what
5:04is the Clarity Act? Yeah.
5:05>> Yeah. So people don't know um the
5:07Clarity Act is one of the most important
5:09bills in Congress right now. It's trying
5:11to get a lot done on the side of like
5:14getting clarity on our token securities,
5:16getting clarity on how banks are going
5:17to be able to use stable coins, um
5:19getting clarity on how founders are
5:20going to be able to move in crypto and
5:23and move through their their their phase
5:25of launching projects. Um so before a
5:28lot of the reason for the disconnect
5:30between equity and token is because
5:33these tokens were not sure if they're
5:34like securities or not securities. And
5:36then there's also issues with directing
5:38revenue back to this token because they
5:40don't want it to appear as a security.
5:42So if this Clarity Act gets through
5:43Congress, it's going to be huge for
5:45crypto projects and protocols in general
5:47because we're going to have a lot more
5:48clarity. That's why it's called the
5:49Clarity Act on how crypto should move in
5:52the US. That's going to be huge for for
5:53like
5:54>> it's a good day for crypto, baby.
5:56>> For sure. Huge day for sure.
5:58>> Um
5:58>> and then something else something else
6:00happened too, right?
6:01>> Uh I think it was Hyperloop with
6:02Coinbase. Oh, the the Cerebrus IPO
6:04today. So that also happened today. Um
6:08talked about that last show, right?
6:09>> Yeah, we did. We talked about it a
6:11little bit. Um we actually were right.
6:13We were saying that like it's a good
6:15>> guys. We were right. We were we were
6:17super right.
6:18>> Phantom and Banks super right about
6:20Cerebras.
6:21>> Yeah.
6:23>> Let's see if I can.
6:23>> That's so good.
6:24>> Yeah. Cerebras. Um this is here on Bulp
6:26and you can trade it. So what happened
6:28was this IPO is one of the most hyped
6:30IPOs this year. a tech company that
6:33focuses on providing uh faster inference
6:35for all these models and these labs. And
6:37it was priced at first was priced at
6:40like 115 a share. Um then it was priced
6:42at like 130 a share. Then it was priced
6:44at 185 I think is what it closed at. So
6:47they raised 5.5 billion at $185 a share
6:51and it was trading on Hyperlid this
6:54entire time. So like since May 1st when
6:56they knew this IPO was coming soon, you
6:58could have traded this as retail on
7:00Hyperlid which there's no other place
7:02you could have traded this before it
7:03launched. So it ranged from like 220 or
7:06200 it hit 200 to like 300 basically in
7:10the past two weeks and then today like
7:12right before it got launched on NASDAQ
7:14they announced it was going to list at
7:16like 350 a share. And so there's people
7:18right now, basically everybody who
7:20bought on Hyperlid through bullpen over
7:23the past two weeks is up money. Um,
7:25which is really there's no other way for
7:27retail to get exposure to this asset
7:29before it.
7:30>> Thank you for putting it on everybody's
7:31radar, Z.
7:32>> I got you.
7:33>> Doing God's work, helping us get rich
7:35and stay rich. It's [ __ ] amazing.
7:37>> That's awesome.
7:38>> Yeah. A lot of stuff happening today. A
7:41lot of stuff happening today.
7:42>> Yeah. Um,
7:45what else do we have?
7:47I talked a little bit in the intro about
7:49uh about attention and how we're going
7:51to highlight attention. We have some we
7:52have some deep topics and deep thoughts
7:54on attention this episode. Want to give
7:57us some thoughts on that?
7:59>> Yeah. So, I think if you look at stocks
8:04over the past year, um let's see which
8:07one I could pull up on here is a good
8:08representation of how crazy [ __ ] has
8:10been. Um,
8:13yeah. So, Sandis, Sandis is one of the
8:15the most popular um most popular stocks
8:20this past year. It's up like 30x. Um,
8:23I'll share my screen. I can see. Yeah.
8:26So, Sandis is like obviously one of the
8:27most popular stocks of the past year.
8:29Why the [ __ ] is this stock up so much?
8:31Um, it's not because of like purely the
8:33revenue that they're making and their
8:34position in the market. It's also
8:35because of how much attention that
8:37they've gained and how much momentum
8:39they've they're trading off with all
8:40retail um following in these footsteps.
8:43So what the what we're really looking at
8:45here is like attention is essentially
8:47the new IBITa for a lot of these
8:48companies especially in a world where
8:50everybody's on an LLM, everybody's on
8:52social media, everybody's sharing their
8:54ideas around trades. Trades that are not
8:57popular become popular extremely fast.
9:00And when that is also bootstrapped by
9:02companies that have strong fundamental
9:04value, that's why you see these things
9:05go parabolic and stuff just go crazy.
9:08Um, if you really think about it, what
9:10attention
9:11>> that's a [ __ ] bar by the way.
9:12Attention is the new
9:14>> Yeah. Thank you, brother. That's crazy.
9:16>> Thank you. Um if you really think it is
9:19facts if you really think about it like
9:21>> before you even see the metrics change
9:24in revenues and how much companies are
9:25making um attention is the precursor to
9:28all of that happening. So like when chat
9:31GBT dropped first in what was it 2022
9:35there were a lot of companies that
9:38benefited from chat GBT and people using
9:40all these labs people using these models
9:42but you didn't see it in the revenues
9:44yet like you didn't see that you could
9:46it would have been much harder to
9:47predict in 2022 that there was going to
9:49be 700 billion dollar spent in 2026 on
9:53AI capex in the buildout but you knew
9:56that the attention was shifting towards
9:58people using AI people using these
9:59models people using them in their
10:00day-to-day basis. Um, and so that's like
10:03the the core thesis is like try to find
10:05where attention is going to next um and
10:08how you can profit and benefit off that
10:10and trade that that momentum.
10:15>> So that obviously raises the question um
10:19what what stocks are benefiting off
10:21attention right now? What should we be
10:22following? What should we be looking at?
10:23Where should we be you know parking our
10:25money if in line with that? Yeah, I
10:28think um the core
10:31>> one of the the biggest uh beneficiaries
10:34of this attention trade has been Intel.
10:36Um so Intel is one of the the stocks
10:39that's up a lot um this year. Um but a
10:43lot of what drove attention to Intel
10:45originally was the US government and
10:47Trump bought 10% um of Intel at like I
10:51think around for like 11 11 billion. Um,
10:54and that was back when price was around
10:55$20 and now stock is trading at $120.
10:59Um, but
10:59>> I didn't even know they could do that. I
11:00didn't even know the US could buy a
11:03company. Did you?
11:04>> I didn't. I didn't either. I honestly
11:05did not either. It's kind of crazy.
11:07>> How often does that happen that that the
11:10US just comes in and buys a company 10%
11:13of a company for billions of dollars?
11:14>> Yeah. It can't be that frequent. I think
11:17it's because like they're seeing how
11:19important a lot of this um how be like
11:23being the the lead runner in tech and in
11:25AI is super important as like a country.
11:28Um so that's why they're
11:31>> trading like me like memecoins. It's
11:33insane. So this is essentially like this
11:36is very similar to like Anom buying
11:38whiff, right? It's like Trump Trump
11:40buying Intel. It's like Trump is like a
11:43is like the leading K of like stocks
11:46essentially.
11:46>> He is. He literally is. And he's he's
11:48very direct in what he's doing. Like if
11:51you look at earlier in 2025 when he was
11:53talking about all the tariffs [ __ ] that
11:55was going on, people were very surprised
11:57at how aggressive he was with the
11:58tariffs. And in January, he was like,
12:00I'm putting 100% tariffs on China. I'm
12:02putting 50% tariffs on this this
12:04country. I'm putting 50% tariffs on this
12:06country. And the stock market tanked
12:08extremely hard, like 30% I think in a
12:10few months. And then he comes out on
12:12April 8th and he puts out this tweet.
12:16He's like, "Great time to buy stocks."
12:18Like publicly. He says it not before,
12:20like no not attached to anything else.
12:22And then a few hours later after he
12:25posts this tweet where he's like, "It's
12:26a great time to buy stocks." He rolls
12:28back pauses all the tariffs on all these
12:30countries like literally in hours after
12:33he said that.
12:34>> So he's like,
12:35>> he's very intentional.
12:36>> He's playing God. He's playing God.
12:38>> He's literally playing God mode. KO
12:40paying KO for the entire US economy.
12:42It's [ __ ] crazy. Um, but yeah, like
12:46what he's he's really intentional with
12:48how he does conversation. I think he's
12:49actually been pretty smart about how
12:51he's negotiating with a lot of these
12:53countries. Like a lot of people were
12:54super scared on obviously if you put
12:57100% tariffs on some countries going to
12:58impact prices a [ __ ] ton. And people
13:00were like, well, we're terrified because
13:01that could hurt the economy. There are
13:03some people who are like, no, this is
13:04just a negotiation tactic. We don't
13:06actually think he's going to do this.
13:08And so it's interesting like people who
13:09are aligned with Trump and believed that
13:12he had the best intentions at heart and
13:14knew what he was doing negotiation
13:15actually made a lot of money just
13:17trading off of trusting him. And there's
13:19a lot of people who sold a lot of [ __ ]
13:21and just because they didn't think he
13:23was going to do well
13:24>> again. Copy trading Trump in 2026 is
13:26like copy trading Anthem in [ __ ]
13:29>> 2020 what 2022 2023
13:31>> 2023 2021
13:34um and it's just that simple.
13:39So, what else? What else can Because
13:41it's not as simple as just buying
13:42[ __ ] AI because nobody can do that,
13:44right? These are all private companies
13:45and already worth [ __ ] gazillions and
13:48gazillions of dollars.
13:50>> Yeah. I mean,
13:52>> talk about Intel. You've been talking
13:52about Intel since we started the show,
13:54too.
13:54>> I have.
13:55>> You want to recap, you want to recap
13:56TLDDR, the thesis, and just remind
13:58people why?
14:00>> Yeah. Yeah, I can. Um so Intel um a US
14:04tech company one of the core bottlenecks
14:07for AI right now is this company called
14:09TSMC which is like the Taiwan
14:11semiconductor um company they control
14:14like 70% of all the chip manufacturing
14:18and for manufacturing these chips that's
14:20a huge huge huge advantage that they
14:22have because everybody has to go through
14:24them to make the chips which are
14:25necessary for training all these models
14:28and doing inference on all these models
14:30when people are reaching are using these
14:31chat bots. Um, and so what Intel is
14:34doing, they're building their own fab
14:36here in the US. And so Trump is
14:39obviously greatly in support of that
14:40because we don't want to be relying on
14:42countries or or companies that aren't in
14:44the US. Um, but also the way Intel is
14:47positioning themselves in in the market.
14:49They've invested a ton um in building
14:51out this fab and trying to position
14:54themselves to benefit from all this
14:55investment that's happening in AI.
14:57They're working closely with a lot of
14:59other big companies like Tesla, like
15:00Apple. Um, and they're also doing a lot
15:04of advanced um work on how networking
15:08works between these chips. Um, you look
15:11more into that um on how they're they're
15:14doing this networking, but apparently
15:15they are working on a system that's a
15:17lot more efficient than what TSMC
15:19currently does. Um, it's a it's a big
15:22swing for sure. It's definitely a risk
15:23takingaking. the people who who bought
15:25like around when Trump bought definitely
15:27took a big risk like they haven't the
15:29thesis hasn't played out yet. So this is
15:31what I'm saying about how attention and
15:33how narrative affects these markets
15:35because that fab is not up and running.
15:37People aren't using them for all these
15:39things yet. It's like a future
15:41prediction on how well they're going to
15:43do and you only saw that happen as
15:45attention shifted towards Intel. So,
15:47they've done a lot of work over the
15:49years, obviously doing uh working on
15:51that tech and building it out, but like
15:52the attention trade is when that really
15:54shifted and when you could have made a
15:56lot of money off of it.
15:57>> One of my favorite people to listen to
15:59um we talked about him a little bit I
16:01think episode one and even when we were
16:02doing the dry runs, but Chris Camilillo
16:04>> Yeah.
16:05>> Um did you watch the interview with him
16:06and Thread?
16:08>> I haven't gotten a chance to watch it,
16:09but that guy
16:10>> was really good. I think it was Thread's
16:11best interview. Honestly, he he crushed
16:13it was a really good interview. I saw I
16:14saw a ton of positive feedback around
16:16it. Um we have a clip here. Um maybe
16:20let's just watch this just to give them
16:21some context.
16:22>> Yeah, it's good. It's a good good spot.
16:24>> Let's watch this.
16:25>> So like I go to investing events and
16:27conferences and there's technical
16:30traders, there's fun. Dude, I'm just
16:32like an alien, dude. Like I don't relate
16:34to anyone. I don't give a crap about
16:37anything that anybody else is doing in
16:40the investing world. like it is it could
16:42be as foreign to me as like anything you
16:45could imagine. Um, and so I've had like
16:48no friends in my world, right? Like I
16:50had no one to no one to relate to. And
16:53then all you guys step in and you're
16:55doing this crypto stuff and I'm like,
16:57okay, it sucked for me because I was
17:00like, dude, what the hell are they
17:01doing? But then on the flip side, I'm
17:04like, dude, if all of these efforts got
17:07involved with equity trading, my edge
17:11would like go down meaningfully because
17:14these kids are young. They're they're
17:17sharp. They're using algos. Like
17:20everything that I'm doing, they're
17:22doing, but they are relentless. They're
17:24they're doing it the way I did it a long
17:26time ago where I just didn't sleep. And
17:28I'm like, I don't know that I need
17:30millions to tens of millions of those
17:32kids competing with me as, you know,
17:35attention arb traders, social arbit
17:38traders, whatever you want to call it in
17:39the equity market because my competition
17:42in an equity market is freaking nothing.
17:46Nothing. And people are like, how did
17:48you generate 70% returns for 18 years?
17:51Well, I mean, the new audit's not out
17:53yet. It will be soon. I'm waiting on
17:54Jack to give it to me. I think it's
17:56roughly 70% on 18 years straight
17:59>> and like you don't understand how weak
18:02>> the competition is in equity markets.
18:05You don't understand
18:06>> this dude turned 20k into 80 million.
18:08You really really don't understand how
18:11much
18:12mentality is in this space that I've
18:15been working in. Yeah, they're smart
18:17technically. Yes, they have access to
18:19tens of billions of dollars and infinite
18:21resources technically, but none of that
18:24matters. they don't know what the hell
18:25they're doing. Um, and so, you know, I
18:29just started talking about this recently
18:31about these crypto traders coming into
18:34my space because I knew it was
18:35inevitable and it actually is starting
18:39and I'm more happy about it than mad
18:41because truthfully like my life
18:43obsession is to like fully democratize
18:47the investing landscape. have every
18:49human on earth enter, you know, the
18:52investor class and having them be
18:54successful and having them truly
18:57understand and believe that they could
18:58be great at this because like no one
19:01[ __ ] believes me, dude. Like every
19:03person is like, "Oh, well, the game is
19:04rigged. It's rigged against us." I'm
19:06like, "Dude, it's rigged for us, dude.
19:09If you're a retail such a normal human
19:13>> that like doesn't have to report to a to
19:16a conventional office on Wall Street
19:18every day
19:19>> with a bunch of suits and protect your
19:22job and and like go by conventional
19:24research research methodologies.
19:27If you're just normal and connected
19:30culturally to the world and can do
19:31whatever the hell you want, this market
19:34is rigged for you, not against you. And
19:38like nobody ever believes me when I say
19:41that.
19:41>> Well, Chris, we believe you.
19:43>> We believe, bro. It's literally how I
19:45trade. Literally. Like literally how
19:47everybody in crypto learned how to
19:48trade. Bro,
19:49>> he sounds like a guy who's lived in
19:51crypto his entire life. By the way, that
19:53does not sound like a guy and up 70%
19:55over. That also sounds like,
19:56>> bro, you know, you know how much 70% a
19:59year is for 18 years straight. How
20:01that's how that compounds. It's [ __ ]
20:03crazy.
20:04>> That's obviously the average, right? So,
20:05some years he [ __ ] absolutely
20:06crushed, some years probably
20:08>> ran flat. But yeah, no, 70 70% for 18
20:11years is crazy. He's the goat.
20:13>> Um,
20:14>> that's why I brought up the Amazon thing
20:15like in that first episode or it was a
20:17dry run or whatever. Yeah. No, this this
20:19is like I guess the question is like
20:21>> is trading against the tension and with
20:23the like narrative trading like this guy
20:25>> Chris Camilo has basically you know
20:27labeled himself as a narrative trader,
20:30right?
20:31>> And is like that the new meta? Is that
20:32the move?
20:34>> Def. I mean, it's always been how how
20:37like money flows through markets. So,
20:40it's like what what he talks about is
20:42lot a lot like the social AR thing he
20:44talks about. He's essentially saying
20:45that like you're going to see these
20:48changes in social and in attention
20:51before you see the changes in the
20:52company's revenue. and he talks about a
20:54lot of scenarios where like he's on he
20:56spends time on Tik Tok, he spends time
20:57on social media and he's looking at what
21:00people are spending their time on, what
21:02they're interested in, and before it
21:04like hits the books on like before
21:06people report the quarterly earnings.
21:08Um, which happens a like people report
21:09the quarterly earnings after all of this
21:11stuff happens. Like if a company has a
21:12blowout quarter, if you're tracking
21:15attention closely and paying attention
21:16to what people are looking at and what
21:17people are shifting their trends
21:18towards, you catch it before the stuff
21:20comes out. So, I think it's honestly a
21:23very accurate way on on predicting the
21:25future and how um you should be
21:27investing. I think it honestly relates
21:28to a lot of the stuff we've been talking
21:30about because you've been saying talking
21:32a lot about GTA um and GTA is like that
21:37attention lever for the company Take 2
21:40which is behind GTA. Like if you think
21:41about how many people are going to be
21:44talking about that game when it comes
21:46out um and all of these different
21:48things. I think that's like one on one
21:51one setup that kind of makes sense like
21:53the attention um attention trade.
21:57This is something I keep saying,
21:58brother. I I don't I I doubt
22:02that the way that that that that stock
22:04is trading right now, I doubt people are
22:07taking into account for like how much
22:09potential GTA 6 has to make money. You
22:12know, if people are just trading against
22:14>> IBA and just like how much money it's
22:15making, you know, year to year over the
22:17last 10 years, maybe it makes sense. But
22:20as somebody who sees, you know, the
22:21writing on the wall and knows where this
22:23game is going, um you want to share
22:25this?
22:25>> Yeah. actually.
22:27Um, it's actually up like today.
22:31>> It's up today. Like gapped up. Um,
22:34>> yeah, I think I think this is I think
22:36this is honestly a good entry for Take
22:38Two. We talked about it a couple weeks
22:40ago when it was like just reclaiming
22:42this area 210. So, it's its prior highs
22:45um was around 210 in in December of
22:482020. It hasn't traded that well like
22:51it's been ranging here. Um, it just
22:54started trending again, broke alltime
22:55high, and then came back down and
22:56retested. But I think right here is
22:59honestly a good spot to enter because I
23:01think it's about to go into price
23:02discovery. Um, and you can pretty easily
23:04have a good like stopout invalidation
23:07around this level, which is the same
23:09level here. Um, around like 200. I I
23:12think it I think it is a good spot to be
23:14honest,
23:14>> brother. This game is going to make more
23:16millionaires than every other video game
23:18before it combined. Like I'm willing to
23:20take that bet and take that swing. And I
23:22again, what's it trading at right now?
23:2340BS, something like that.
23:24>> Somewhere around there. Yeah. Yeah.
23:26>> And it's just like I I think that I
23:28think that somebody jumps into into this
23:30ecosystem and builds on this platform
23:31and and establishes themselves or their
23:34company as a billion dollar um asset or
23:37or value in GTA. So again, like I I just
23:41it doesn't seem appropriately priced to
23:43me considering how much attention is the
23:44is the subject we're talking about.
23:46Attention is on going to be on this
23:48game. I think it's going to [ __ ] take
23:49over. Um, there's a ton of [ __ ] around
23:52this. There's a clip that you actually
23:53linked me to.
23:54>> Yeah,
23:54>> I want to pull it up.
23:57>> Yeah, this is a good one.
23:58>> I have this friend who was one of the
24:00first guys to convince me that I needed
24:02to put a huge chunk of my net worth into
24:04crypto early on. And he was basically
24:06saying like, "Why aren't you 80% in
24:07crypto?" And I was like, "80% is
24:10insane." And he's like, "Younger than
24:11you?"
24:12>> Yeah. He's like, "This is obvious. What
24:14are you?" He's like, "What are you
24:14talking about? This is what it's going
24:16to be." Blah blah blah. So, he's been
24:17early on a few different calls with me
24:19in my life to the point where now when
24:20he says something that I find
24:22outlandish, I have learned through
24:25trauma of not fully backing his prior
24:27things that I should really pay
24:28attention. So, he came to my house about
24:30a year ago and he was like, "Yeah, I'm
24:33thinking about putting together a
24:34hostile takeover of Take 2 Interactive."
24:37I'm like, "Take 2 Interactive? What is
24:39that? Do they make video games?" He's
24:40like, "Yeah, they make NBA 2K and they
24:42make Grand Theft Auto
24:43>> and it crushed."
24:44>> And I was like, "What is a hostile
24:45takeover? we won't even do that. He's
24:47like, "This will be my first." By the
24:48way, the hostel takeover has been
24:49shelved now. The stock went up too much.
24:51So, like I don't know if you know how a
24:52hostel takeover works, but you have to
24:53kind of acquire like I don't know like
24:555% of the company silently and then like
24:58announce your bid and you you really
24:59want it when it's like Snapchat right
25:01now when the stock is just going down
25:03down down and you can rally support that
25:06a change needs to be made. So he was
25:08raising you know3 $400 million to do
25:10this but the stock went up and once the
25:12stock popped then there was like not
25:14going to be enough enthusiasm and the
25:15price went up and the return would go
25:17down on the activity.
25:18>> So there's a whole economy around this.
25:20So there's people who do content around
25:22this. There's people who create like
25:23mods and tools and data scrapers and
25:27guides and then there's people who who
25:29sell things in the game. We don't know
25:31exactly how the game's going to work,
25:32but the game might work like some of
25:34these other video games now where you
25:35can buy and sell in-game items.
25:39>> Yeah. Like skins, guns, outfits,
25:40whatever. Different aspects of the game.
25:42And so there's going to be a lot of
25:44people who get wealthy off this.
25:45There's, you know, for example, in the
25:46last wave when GTA 5 came out, these
25:49guys made this thing called no pixel. So
25:50they created their own like mod version
25:52of the game and they ended up selling it
25:53back to the company after it got really
25:55like mega popular. It got more popular
25:57than like the real game on Twitch. So, I
25:59just think there's going to be a lot of
26:00opportunity for like if
26:02>> and where like typically you would
26:03expect a Rockstar GTA to reject that and
26:06like send cease and desist and you've
26:07seen this historically in gaming like
26:09anytime somebody tries to like break the
26:10game whatever it's like no you can't do
26:13that don't [ __ ] with our [ __ ] this is
26:14our IP we own it rather than do that
26:16Rockstar I guess what he just said I
26:18don't know if this is true or not
26:20acquired them or a piece of them but
26:22also just embraced it like there was a
26:24really big tweet around that where
26:25Rockstar was just like kind of putting
26:27their arm around the shoulder of No
26:29Pixel, which XQC of course owns a piece
26:31of and some other like popular GTA
26:33streamers, whatever. But I don't know.
26:35He's speaking to this. There's there's a
26:37um there's something that I saw that I
26:40also thought was interesting on this
26:41subject.
26:43>> Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. Give me one
26:46second. Yeah, here it is.
26:48This tweet, this graph, and you see the
26:52caption, too. It's a negative caption.
26:54It's I look at this Rockstar timeline
26:56monthly and get pissed. It popped off.
26:58It got two million views, 15,000 likes.
27:00Obviously, people relate to this. Um,
27:03and most people would look at this and
27:04be upset like, "Fuck Rockstar. What have
27:06you been doing for the last, you know,
27:0810 years?" Me, I'm bullish looking at
27:11this. Cuz all this tells me is
27:14everything that we've been talking
27:15about. They are going all in. They are
27:17putting all of their eggs in this
27:19basket. GTA 6 again. and they have spent
27:21[ __ ] 10 years building the game and
27:24they've quite literally spent billions
27:26and millions of dollars building it. So
27:27again, like everything in line with what
27:29he's saying, it's just like I don't
27:30think that the market's
27:32>> pricing any of this in and obviously
27:34it's a traditional
27:36>> market. It's not just GTA. The ticker is
27:38GTA, right? It's like a [ __ ] game
27:40whatever. So I I I don't know. I just
27:42>> again Roblox is another one that's like
27:45kind of kind of comparable to it and
27:47it's like sitting around the same the
27:49same price. I can't imagine GTA not
27:52being at least two, three, probably
27:54closer to five to 10 times bigger than
27:57Roblox in terms of how many people are
27:58playing it and how much business is
28:00being done on the game. Um, and yeah,
28:02that's what I would look look at. Like
28:05again, I don't know.
28:06>> Yeah,
28:07>> it's interesting. It's interesting
28:08stuff.
28:08>> It's super interesting. I I I never was
28:10a big GTA guy to be honest. I play a lot
28:13of the other [ __ ] but yeah, it's it's
28:15super popular with people. I can see how
28:16how it's going to attract a lot of eyes
28:18and a lot of attention. It's just like
28:20open world second life type of [ __ ] You
28:22know what I mean? It's like it's
28:23[ __ ] you know, you're a broke
28:25[ __ ] bum, you know, at home and you
28:27don't you don't have a life, you don't
28:28have many friends, you can hop on GTA
28:30and drive a [ __ ] Ferrari and get your
28:32dick sucked and [ __ ] kill somebody
28:34who's talking [ __ ] to you. You know what
28:35I mean? And it's all in good fun in GTA.
28:37>> In GTA.
28:39>> Yeah. And it's historically, by the way,
28:40been the biggest [ __ ] game. GTA for
28:42as long as I can remember. All the
28:44trailers and all the content and all the
28:46all the output from Rockstar, they've
28:48it's always been like a record-breaking
28:50thing. Mr. Beast has talked about this.
28:52Um I think the most viewed video on
28:54YouTube was is a GTA trailer. Is that
28:56true? Am I getting that right? Somebody
28:58maybe tell me.
28:59>> Yeah. Is that is that true?
29:00>> I think it is. I think it's I think it's
29:02one of the most viewed if not the most
29:04viewed video. Um yeah, interesting. GTA,
29:08I'm obviously high on GTA. talked a
29:10little bit in my pre-show about levering
29:12Faz's entire brand and kind of going all
29:14in on this on some [ __ ]
29:17micro strategy Michael Sailor [ __ ]
29:19where I just [ __ ] completely, you
29:21know, attach my my my brand and my my
29:24business to um to this game and the
29:27success of this game. It makes sense for
29:29a lot of reasons. Maybe I'm just [ __ ]
29:30delusional, but this is just one of
29:32those one of those things. Um but I'll
29:34hand it back to you. I I want to get
29:37back into the uh the conversation about
29:39stocks and where your head's at as far
29:41as where the markets are at. Maybe pull
29:43up some
29:43>> some charts.
29:45>> Yeah.
29:45>> Um talk about where you think things are
29:47at. But yeah, Intel Take Two. Um
29:51>> yeah, some other stuff I've been looking
29:52at. Um I think with the AI trade, like a
29:55lot of it, it has been focused on um the
29:58tech companies and then the chips and
30:00then memory. Those have been the two I
30:02think most popular ideas of the trade
30:04like the past few years or so. Obviously
30:06there's been a [ __ ] ton of spending. Um
30:08these tech companies are adding a lot to
30:09their bottom line revenue by spending
30:11the around by spending smartly um on
30:14investing in AI. But what people haven't
30:17talked about as much for the US
30:19specifically is how we actually have
30:21like a lack of the amount of energy
30:23necessary to power all of these all
30:26these data centers. like we literally
30:27don't have enough energy right now to
30:29power the amount of of data centers that
30:30we're trying to build um to train all
30:33these models and do inference on all
30:34these models. So an interesting lane and
30:37area that I've been looking at is
30:38nuclear um so nuclear energy as an
30:42investment um and as like a alternative
30:45to to natural gas um and there's a
30:49company I actually got this from Catrini
30:50so I'm going to plug Catrini's
30:53um platform here but the ticker is Souls
30:57um and it's this company called Solstice
30:59Advanced Materials
31:01um and he did a really good write up on
31:03it um if you don't guys don't know
31:05Satrini, definitely recommend you guys
31:06[ __ ] with him. He does great research
31:08on stocks in general. They have a great
31:10team. Um, but yeah, this this play Souls
31:13um spun off from this bigger company
31:15Honeywell and they are a key um part of
31:20the system for nuclear energy. So you
31:22have mining which is like you get the
31:24uranium ore from the ground then you
31:26have conversion which is converting that
31:27ore into this u hexaflloride which is
31:30UF6 gas. You have enrichment and then
31:32you have fuel fabrication. So, Souls is
31:35a company that is uh the sole domestic
31:38supplier of conversion in the US and so
31:41this is necessary for any like nuclear f
31:44fuel chain that you need. Um and so they
31:47they're in a really really really good
31:48position here. Um and I think if you
31:50believe that the US is going to invest
31:52more in nuclear energy and more um in
31:55that area, it makes a ton of sense for
31:57this company to do well and their
31:58revenue to inlect up over the next few
32:00years. Um and it's also a pretty good
32:02chart. like it's it's interesting
32:03because it's spun off from a bigger
32:05company and so it's like doesn't have
32:08that much price history. I'll pull it
32:09up. Um
32:14see it's interesting. See this is the
32:16chart. Solstice is at like 86 right now.
32:18When it spun off it was it it touched 40
32:21um and then it's up like 2x over the
32:23past few months and it just recently
32:25broke out the alltime high is retesting
32:27its its prior alltime high. So I think
32:28it's in a good spot technically. I also
32:30think it's a good spot fundamentally.
32:32Um, and yeah, it's one of the the things
32:34that I've been been looking at and
32:36trading.
32:37Oh,
32:38>> so you said you mentioned uranium. I I
32:41saw a tweet from you actually along the
32:43lines of copper, lithium, uranium. I saw
32:46copper broke all-time highs. I'm
32:48assuming the other two are in line with
32:50that. Yeah.
32:50>> Um, and materials is maybe a dumb
32:54question, dumb [ __ ] off banks question,
32:56but
32:56>> there's no dumb questions, bro. Never.
32:58>> Is there ever is is is it ever a move?
33:00Is it ever a play for the average guy
33:03who, you know, works [ __ ] 50 hours a
33:05week and doesn't understand, you know,
33:0890% of what you're saying or or can't
33:10make an informed decision to make, you
33:12know, a sizable investment in something
33:13like Solstice. Is the play for that guy
33:15ever just to [ __ ] DCA in a copper,
33:17lithium, and uranium? And that's kind of
33:19the AI bet.
33:21>> Um, yeah, you could say that. I think
33:23that so those three have three different
33:26thesis for like why they would do well.
33:28Copper um is important because it's
33:30needed for the wiring between all these
33:32chips. Um lithium is important because
33:35it's important for like the EV batteries
33:37um and ton of other like tech and
33:40electronic things. Um uranium as we know
33:43is key for like nuclear. But yeah, I
33:46think that commodities as a portion of
33:49your portfolio does make sense. like you
33:51said, it's a lot harder to do research
33:53on the thousands of stocks that exist,
33:55find the best one, invest in that. Um,
33:57commodities is kind of like a a less low
34:00I would say lower effort lower effort.
34:02Um, and a way to diversify your
34:04portfolio. So, a lot of people have like
34:06a cash
34:06>> in the same in the same line as like a
34:08real estate like adding real estate to
34:09your portfolio.
34:10>> Exactly. Like
34:11>> real estate's up what like 3 4%
34:13year-over-year. Is that low?
34:15>> I don't I couldn't even tell.
34:17>> Yeah. I don't know [ __ ] about real
34:18estate either. [ __ ] about reality.
34:20>> Um but yeah, most people typically have
34:22like a cash balance, savings balance.
34:24They have like um lowrisk plays which
34:27would be like the indices S&P 500,
34:30NASDAQ, the Q's, QQQ. Um or like the
34:33large tech companies which are really
34:35hard to fail like stuff like Google,
34:38Apple, Meta, Amazon. Um, and then they
34:41have their higher risk plays which are
34:42like smaller market cap stocks or like
34:44crypto which are lower market cap um
34:47where you can see higher returns but you
34:49risk a smaller amount of your capital
34:51because they're a lot more volatile and
34:53they have a higher chance of like
34:54underperforming and not not doing as
34:56well. And then commodities are the
34:57slowest. So commodities
34:58>> well crypto crypto Ansom and crypto it's
35:00a [ __ ]
35:02>> it's everybody's favorite subject and
35:03favorite segment.
35:04>> Um what about what about crypto? How are
35:06we feeling about it? Um, bro, I honestly
35:09I still don't like the majors. I still
35:10don't like Bitcoin and ETH um as much. I
35:15do think Bitcoin is in a great spot
35:16right now. Technically, I think it's
35:19holding this key level, which is like
35:2279K. Um, so I think if Bitcoin is to
35:26hold, I'll just map it out on the chart
35:30like here. This is
35:32>> I have in my notes here that you that
35:34you that you're shorting ETH.
35:37I'm gonna take a pitch real quick. Go
35:38off. Go off, King. Talk about Talk about
35:40E. Talk about majors. I'll be right
35:41back.
35:41>> Got you. Um, yeah. Pull up my
35:46>> Can I share just my screen and and me
35:48just solo
35:49>> which is this one?
35:55>> Okay, cool. All right, bet.
35:56>> Yeah. Yeah. So, um I am not as bullish
36:00on majors as I am comparably to like the
36:07other risk on plays in in tech and in
36:10the stock market. But I do think I'm
36:12super bullish on Zcash, super bullish on
36:14hype. I think both of those are going to
36:15trade at all-time highs over the next
36:17few months. Um I think Bitcoin and ETH
36:19are going to be a bit slower to get back
36:21to all-time highs. Um but I do think
36:24they're going to follow. I think if you
36:26hold I would be looking for like 75k
36:30would probably be my invalidation for
36:31where I think Bitcoin to start
36:32downtrending it again. So we had
36:37it um
36:41the alltime high was like around 126k
36:44downtrended broke this this key level
36:46support which is like 100k um
36:48consolidated again and then broke down
36:50again. And this is the first time in a
36:52few months that it's actually starting
36:54to break out from this range that it's
36:56traded in for for a while. So this high,
36:59if you go to the weekly, it's a bit
37:00clear, but this high, this weekly candle
37:03was like the capitulation candle. So it
37:05hit 60K. It hasn't touched 60K since it
37:08it it ticked this, but it's been stuck
37:10in this range between like 60K and 80K
37:13since February. And recently, this past
37:16month is when it finally broke out above
37:1980K again. And then this range high and
37:21like this demand level is where I would
37:23say is important um for Bitcoin to hold
37:26to continue trending higher, continue um
37:29going up. I mean stocks are in a [ __ ]
37:31raging bull market. If you look at the
37:33S&P, if you look at NASDAQ, if you look
37:35at the Q's, it's literally just straight
37:37up through all-time highs. I think my my
37:41best way to describe this is like if you
37:43were looking at Bitcoin as your core
37:47risk on um trade, if you're if you're a
37:50crypto trader, you only trade crypto,
37:51don't really trade stocks and Bitcoin
37:52was your like core asset to look at, I
37:55think you can do the same right now with
37:57Nvidia and Google. And that should be
37:59like your barometer for how you should
38:01be comparing your um looking at just
38:05risk on in markets in general. Like if
38:06you look at Nvidia, I actually was super
38:08wrong on this. I thought it was going to
38:10break down here around like April. Um
38:13and it that literally was the bottom
38:15tick. But this chart is pretty evidently
38:20um
38:22the key indicator of what people are
38:23looking at for risk. Like if you look at
38:25Nvidia compared to Bitcoin, it's it's
38:27pretty [ __ ] up. I'm going to do a
38:28>> It's insane. I mean, you look at Nvidia
38:30next to anything, it's pretty [ __ ] up.
38:32>> It's [ __ ] up.
38:33>> It's pretty [ __ ] up.
38:34>> It's It is. It's literally Five
38:37>> trillies.
38:38>> Yeah. 5.5 trill.
38:39>> My god, man. Let me touch 0001.
38:42>> I know, right?
38:44>> What the [ __ ]
38:46>> Yeah. So, I mean, this is the best
38:48sideby-side comparison I can do to show
38:50like how AI has just outperformed crypto
38:53so much. Um, I think if you look,
38:56Bitcoin's alltime high in 2021 was 69K.
38:58Nvidia's alltime high in 20 late 2021
39:01was literally $40. And now it's at $235.
39:04So, it's like 7x from that high and and
39:07Bitcoin is basically
39:08>> No wonder everybody in crypto is [ __ ]
39:09mad and crying all the time. It's like,
39:12can you blame them? It's [ __ ] insane.
39:14>> It's [ __ ] I I like I am super bullish
39:17on crypto as a technology. I do think
39:19there's a lot of startups that are going
39:20to emerge um out of crypto over the next
39:24few years and going to do really well.
39:25Like I think um there's going to be a
39:27lot of innovation there. Uh, but I think
39:29just for like majors, Bitcoin and ETH,
39:32um, in general, I think that they're
39:36going to underper. Not they're not going
39:38to outperform in the same way that they
39:40did over the past decade. Like Bitcoin.
39:42>> So, you heard it folks. You heard it
39:42from Anthem Straight. We're not touching
39:44Bitcoin and we're shorting Ethereum.
39:46Ethereum's [ __ ] trash, right?
39:48>> I think Ethereum is a good head short
39:49for for a while. But, um, yeah. Yeah.
39:53>> I told you that I had this. It's like a
39:55little antidote. How do you say that
39:57word?
39:57>> Antidote. I'm [ __ ]
39:58>> What did you say?
39:59>> No, not antidote. Antidote is like a
40:01cure for something. Antidote like a like
40:03a like an experience from your own life
40:05or an example from your own life. Am I
40:07[ __ ] [ __ ]
40:09>> What are you saying?
40:09>> The answer The answer is The answer is
40:11yes. By the way,
40:12>> anecdote. That's what you anecdote.
40:15>> Anecdote. Yeah. Yeah.
40:16>> Anecdote. I'm a 50-year-old [ __ ]
40:18manchild.
40:19>> Bro, what are you talking
40:21>> anecdote? Anecdote. Um, I have an
40:24anecdote from per my personal life. This
40:25was kind of like my final aha moment.
40:28I'm not going to expose the group chat,
40:30but I I'm in a I was in like a chat with
40:33a with a few girls and we we like went
40:35and got like lunch that day and um they
40:37went to the Laker game and they like ran
40:39into one of my friends and one of the
40:40girls in the group chat said, "Hey, I
40:42saw your friend so and so
40:43>> and he said, "Tell Banks you're with the
40:45cooler friend now."
40:46>> And I'm like talking [ __ ] back and
40:48forth. I'm like trying to articulate how
40:51this guy is not cool. And I say, "Kids
40:54about as cool as a [ __ ] in church." And
40:56I'm just firing these off. I said, "Kids
40:57about as cool as axe body spray. Kids
41:00about as cool as buying bottle service
41:02at Poppy," which we love Poppy, but like
41:04bottle service sign service 2026 is
41:06[ __ ] not cool. Kids about as cool as,
41:08"Hey, can I speak to your manager in
41:10quotes?" And then I said, "Kids about as
41:12cool as Ethereum." And that just came
41:14out of me. That flowed straight out of
41:17meuck.
41:17>> And I'm typing and firing these off off
41:19the top.
41:20>> That's so [ __ ] up. And I've realized I
41:23don't own any Ethereum, but I have a
41:24seven figure Cryptounk position open
41:28basically. And I'm just like, [ __ ] man.
41:30>> I'm like, it was kind of like my aha
41:32moment of just like this Ethereum is
41:34[ __ ]
41:36>> might be the least cool asset on Earth.
41:39>> Yeah, bro. I mean,
41:41>> you see all the memes too of like the
41:42haircut, like the Ethereum haircut
41:44versus the Salana haircut versus the
41:45Bitcoin haircut. You know what I mean?
41:46It's like it's always just metallic also
41:50too. I mean, the only thing keeping that
41:51motherfucker's aura up is his [ __ ]
41:53hammer. This guy has a piece. That's it.
41:56>> Thank god, by the way. Thank God. If
41:59Vitalic, if Vitalic had a little dick,
42:00ETH would be at [ __ ] $200 right now.
42:04>> So [ __ ] up.
42:05>> It's insane.
42:07>> It's [ __ ] insane. This [ __ ] has been,
42:09bro. I I saw a tweet about like if you
42:11went into a coma 5 years ago, it's like
42:14Ethereum's at [ __ ] $2,300.
42:16>> Same price. But it's the same price.
42:18It's the same price. you actually you
42:20accidentally had, you know, [ __ ]
42:22$100,000 in ETH five years ago. You went
42:24into a coma. The first thing you're
42:25going to ask when you wake up five years
42:27later is, "Holy fuck." Like, how much is
42:29that worth? Yeah.
42:29>> It's like, bro, still it literally
42:31hasn't moved at all.
42:32>> I mean, I I just It's tough because I
42:36think what happened in 2020 and 2021,
42:38um, I don't hate on ETH too hard. I
42:40think ETH was super important for the
42:42development of crypto and smart
42:43contracts. Um and just like L1's in
42:46general moving money on chain, they were
42:48revolutionary in having the first the
42:50first platform where billions of dollars
42:52literally came on chain um through DeFi
42:54and a lot of other other protocols. But
42:57what you have to look at in tech in a
43:00field as crypto, it's like super um
43:02innovative on the forefront. It's really
43:05easy to get disrupted. Um and like even
43:07in the early 2000s, there were a lot of
43:09tech startups that did really well. Um
43:12and there were a lot of tech startups
43:14that failed completely. So like if the
43:16that bubble in early 2000, 2001, 2002,
43:20um there were teams that like like if
43:23you look at Yahoo and Google for
43:24example, um Yahoo at the time, they were
43:26like probably neck andneck on how
43:28popular they were as like a search
43:30engine. And if you look at Google now
43:32versus Yahoo, I mean Google is by like
43:35literally the number two um company by
43:37market cap globally. And Yahoo is
43:39obviously
43:39>> and Yahoo is a little [ __ ] chocolate
43:41milk drink that you can get at 7-Eleven.
43:43>> Exactly. So I think ETH is Yahoo. That's
43:46my take. I think ETH is Yahoo is going
43:47to be that equivalent. Um they just have
43:50a lot of competition from Salana, from
43:51Hyperlquid, from a lot of other chains,
43:53from a lot of Trafi entities coming into
43:54crypto.
43:55>> What's Hyperlid in this metaphor?
43:57>> Amazon.
43:58>> Yeah,
43:59>> Amazon. It is. There's actually
44:01>> his face. You saw his face. I said
44:02something smart, chat. [ __ ] No, there's
44:05actually an interview. Jeff, the founder
44:07of Hyperlquid, he does. He wants
44:08Hyperlquid to be like the AWS
44:10infrastructure for all of finance. So
44:13that that's literally what they're
44:14trying to do. What they're trying to do.
44:16>> Bank said I can I can go I can I can I
44:19can walk away I can walk away happy from
44:22episode three. Um it's a great
44:24>> cool. Yeah. So enough about ETH. Um ETH
44:26is trash. Hype's amazing. Um
44:30>> yeah. What what what else I have here?
44:32VVV which you called. You gave the the
44:34audience a [ __ ] great call on VVV.
44:36It's up a lot. I think it's up
44:39>> um
44:40>> up from 11 to Yeah, it's up from 11 to
44:4220 since you [ __ ] called it. It's up
44:44almost 100%. Great call again, Anom.
44:47Thank Anom in the chat. The [ __ ] five
44:49people that had the balls to go [ __ ]
44:51make that trade. Congratulations. Um he
44:53magically and mysteriously 2xed your
44:55money. Thank you, Z. Um you want to talk
44:58about that a little bit?
44:59>> Yeah, I'll talk about talk about V.
45:00>> That's who we're supposed to talk talk
45:02to today. [ __ ] Eric Vorhees, guys. Go
45:03tweet at him and tell him [ __ ]
45:06next week.
45:07>> We were so excited. We were so excited.
45:09>> Yeah, we were. We had a ton of ton of
45:10good questions lined up for him. Um,
45:12we'll get them on. No, couldn't couldn't
45:14do today. We're going to get them on
45:15later. But yeah, Venice is one of the
45:17interesting areas in crypto right now.
45:19Um, there's been a lot of um I guess
45:23discussion around what projects at the
45:25intersection of crypto and AI are going
45:27to do well. And so Eric Vorhees, which
45:29is the founder of Venice AI, um he is
45:34one of the
45:36that that platform is um one of the one
45:40of the most popular crypto AI platforms
45:41right now. So Venice is an AI platform
45:44that essentially is the same way that
45:46you use chat GBT or use Claude as a
45:48chatbot um to go back and forth. Venice
45:50is that, but they have a ton of
45:52different models on the back end that
45:54they use. Um some are open source
45:56models. um some of the most popular
45:57state-of-the-art models. Um but the
45:59differentiator between Venice and these
46:01other platforms is they keep all of your
46:03information private and so a lot of
46:05people have concerns around how much
46:08access um these labs have to all the
46:10information that you're giving you. Um
46:12so Venice and their main um attraction
46:15goal is that and they have like I think
46:172 million users. I think they're doing
46:18like 50k daily activives right now. Um
46:21yeah, the token went from like 11 to 20
46:23last week and now it's back down again.
46:25But I think it's going to be one of
46:26those areas um that could continue to do
46:29well in crypto. Um another area that is
46:32specific to crypto and AI that is trying
46:36to solve a big problem is how little
46:39compute that we have available um for
46:42inference. So, the reason that you see
46:44all these big tech companies um and all
46:46these labs investing so much right now
46:48um is because these models take a [ __ ]
46:51ton eventually a [ __ ] ton of um
46:53investment to run and do well, but
46:55there's literally not enough GPUs to
46:58power all of them. So, there are a lot
47:00of decentralized compute platforms in
47:02crypto that are trying to address this
47:04issue. I think probably the biggest one
47:06is Aash um Akos. I don't know if it's a
47:09cash or a but that's um one of the
47:12protocols working on that. Um there's
47:14another protocol that is attached to
47:15Venice which is like Dolphin AI. They're
47:18also working on a similar solution
47:20trying to solve that problem by
47:21addressing or by utilizing idle GPUs
47:23that people have um pulling them
47:26together and then allowing um these
47:29models to use that pool of GPUs for
47:31inference. And their main partner that
47:34they're going to work with I think is
47:35the Quinn open source model. I want to
47:37say it's from Alibaba. Um, but yeah,
47:40there's there's a ton of opportunity
47:42there for coordination of computing
47:44crypto. Um, and it hasn't really been
47:47solved yet, but it's definitely an
47:48interesting area um to look at. It's one
47:51of the most popular. Um,
47:53>> we were going to talk about we were
47:54going to talk about podolphin AI with
47:57Eric, right?
47:58>> Yeah. Venice. So, Venice and and
47:59Dolphin. Dolphin is the provider of the
48:02uncensored model that Venice uses. So
48:05Venice has a you can if you're using the
48:07the Venice platform you can use um cloud
48:09you can use some of the chat chat GBT
48:11models u but you also can use an
48:13uncensored model which is the one that
48:15Dolphin AI provided um and the
48:18censorship piece is interesting because
48:21a lot of like chat GBT claude all the
48:24big labs they have very strict rules on
48:27what you can ask and what you can say to
48:29the models like if you were like
48:31>> they're censored very heavily
48:32>> very heavily like if you were to say
48:34anything that's kind of like offkilter
48:36that made them.
48:37>> What do you think is the worst religion
48:38or who do you think is my [ __ ] gayest
48:40friend? That's actually another there's
48:43there's the word the word of the day an
48:45anecdote. There's another anecdote from
48:47my own life. I actually asked I asked um
48:50Claude this question. Open claw. I said
48:52out of all the people that work for me,
48:53who do you think is most likely to be
48:54gay? We were talking like amongst
48:56ourselves like with the team just joking
48:58who we thought it would say
49:00>> and it wouldn't answer it. It was like I
49:02can't I can't say that for legal reasons
49:04X Y and Z. Um
49:06>> but it was funny. Yeah. You ask dolphin
49:08dolphin AI and it's going to tell you.
49:10>> Yeah. I mean it's interesting because
49:12one is like how we're not in any control
49:16of what that censorship is and what
49:18they're telling the models not to say.
49:20And so it's like who has the power and
49:22who gets the influence to do that. I
49:23think one of crypto's core tenants
49:26that's really important to crypto is
49:27like not having to um rely on some
49:30centralized entity on what you can and
49:32cannot do. Like they want the technology
49:34to be free and open to everyone. Um so
49:36uncensored models are kind of one way
49:38that crypto is is looking at doing that.
49:40Um
49:41>> there's one one final one final uh thing
49:43I want to talk about in crypto before
49:45TJR is coming on. He's going to fill the
49:47spot and he's going to be on in seven
49:49minutes with us which is cool. I know
49:51he's a friend of yours, a friend of
49:52mine, and a friend of Poly Markets. So,
49:54it'll be that'll be fun.
49:55>> Um, but Zcash, what's Zcash doing? How's
49:58that moving? I asked you last night. I
50:00said, "You think this is a good spot?" I
50:01asked Maine, and I asked Flood, and I
50:03asked a couple other people, too. And,
50:05um, yeah, those guys aren't as bullish
50:07as you, but, but they put it in the same
50:09bucket as like a hype, a hype, and a bit
50:11Bitcoin, you know, like this is an okay,
50:13this is a fine asset to buy. It's, you
50:15know, it's it's probably only going up,
50:17but there's probably better
50:18opportunities elsewhere. How How are you
50:19feeling? Are you still as bullish on
50:21Zcash?
50:22>> Um,
50:23>> this got covered in Wall Street Journal.
50:24Yeah,
50:25>> it did today. Actually, I'll pull up
50:27that um that article.
50:29>> I have it here. I'll do it.
50:30>> I have it.
50:32>> Yeah.
50:34>> Um, right here.
50:38It's a more secret version of Bitcoin
50:39and it's on a tear.
50:42>> Yeah.
50:42>> Whoa. Cash reminds some of Bitcoin's
50:44early days, but some see its privacy
50:46features as a red flag.
50:49Yeah.
50:52Yeah. I might need to to cop the [ __ ]
50:56sub for that. But um yeah, I like I like
51:00uh I like Zcash a lot. I think that the
51:03reason Zcash has gotten so much
51:05attention right now. Um there's a few
51:07issues with Bitcoin. Bitcoin right now
51:08is facing issues with quantum. They're
51:10not a quantum resistant platform. Google
51:12thinks that we're going to have um
51:14issues with quantum a lot sooner than we
51:16previously thought, like somewhere
51:17around 2030. Um two is Bitcoin is not
51:20private um obviously as you know. And
51:23three is like Bitcoin is also um it's
51:27very institutionalized and very like it
51:32it looks like a US asset right now. Um,
51:36and I think a lot of the early
51:37attraction to Bitcoin for people was it
51:39was something that's not connected to
51:40anyone entity, not connected to anyone
51:41country, not connected to any
51:43government. Um, and Zcash is kind of
51:46like the opposite or alter alternative
51:48um, for a lot of these things. So
51:52yeah, billionaires who have a [ __ ] ton
51:53of money, um, if you look at how much
51:55money is stored offshore, stored in like
51:58Swiss banking accounts, um, stored in
52:00alternate areas, the reason for that is
52:02like you don't want, if you ever were in
52:04a situation where you are in a country
52:07where the government is trying to seize
52:09your wealth or do anything with that,
52:10you want to diversify your assets. Like
52:12there's no billionaire who has all of
52:13their wealth in one country or one area.
52:17Um and Zcash is essentially like Swiss
52:18banking for those people in your pocket.
52:20So instead of having to do all this with
52:23looking at different bank accounts, um
52:25looking at different areas of ste store
52:26your wealth, Zcash allows you to do that
52:28and have that have you have access to
52:31that at any point in time um and take it
52:34with you anywhere and you also it's very
52:36it's private. So the issues that you
52:38have with like say you have a [ __ ] ton
52:40of bitcoin. If you have a billion
52:41dollars in bitcoin and you spend $100 of
52:44that to like directly with somebody,
52:47anybody who you sent that $100 to now
52:48knows you have a billion dollars in
52:49bitcoin.
52:50>> And so if you have a billion dollars in
52:51Zcash and I'm not even speaking on like
52:53how to get around taxes, you obvious
52:55should not be using it for that. If you
52:56buy x amount of Zcash, store that Zcash,
52:58use report when you're going to sell it.
53:00But if you have a billion dollars in
53:02Zcash and then you send somebody a $100
53:04that Zcash to somebody for whatever
53:06payment for whatever reason, they don't
53:07know how much you have in your core in
53:09your actual address, which is the core
53:11reason I think that that Zcash
53:13differentiates from Bitcoin is
53:15important. Um,
53:16>> private money on chain. I mean, you said
53:18it. You said it best. That was a [ __ ]
53:19bar, by the way. Swiss banking in your
53:20pocket. Whoa. Hit that one, Jack.
53:24>> That that was that that's really good.
53:25Um,
53:26>> and crypto has like two kinds of assets.
53:28There's assets that are stores of value,
53:29which is like Bitcoin. And then there's
53:31the assets which are businesses and tech
53:34assets, which is stuff like Hype. Um,
53:36and Zcash is, in my opinion, the second
53:39best store value behind Bitcoin. And
53:41right now, it trades at like what, like
53:45lower than 10 billion. I think it trades
53:47at like 7 billion market cap. Um, so I
53:50think it has a lot of room to do well
53:52and a lot of room to grow. And a lot of
53:53the OG people who are early to Bitcoin
53:55were also the people buying Zcash over
53:57the past 10 years. Like it's been in
53:59accumulation since 2016. It's never
54:01really trended past its all-time high of
54:04800, which it hit in 2017. Um it's never
54:07really been in price discovery like a
54:09lot of other crypto assets. Like if you
54:10look at Bitcoin, Bitcoin was at $200 in
54:132016. Now Bitcoin trades at $80,000.
54:17And in 2016, Zcash was the same price
54:20that it is right now. So, as you can see
54:22in the title screen, we're going live
54:24with TJR in two minutes. Um, I think it
54:27kind of perfectly segus into the
54:28question that I just have for you. Broad
54:30question that I'm pretty sure are on
54:32people's minds. Um, and that's, are we
54:34entering a crypto bull market? Maybe
54:37think on that, sit on that and maybe we
54:39can, that's how we can start the
54:41conversation with TJR because I know TJR
54:42isn't like a really big crypto guy
54:44either. I know that he was like buying a
54:45[ __ ] ton of Bitcoin.
54:47>> I think he did well with Salana. I
54:48actually followed his um his story. I've
54:51s seen some of the stuff like the videos
54:53he did on telling how he came up like I
54:55think he had I'm the only person on
54:57planet earth who lost money on Salana. I
54:59get it. I get it. We don't need to keep
55:00bringing it up. Um lost Yeah. close to
55:03half a million dollars on on Salana.
55:04It's all good though. It's all good
55:06though. We're going to get it. We're
55:07going to get it back in blood, baby.
55:09We're going to get it back in blood. We
55:10love Soul. We love Salana. Um it's not
55:12over. It's not over until [ __ ]
55:15>> Yeah, I do love Salana. Actually, I
55:16really do. It's my favorite asset in
55:18crypto. Like I hit so many times, bro.
55:23>> Yeah,
55:24>> it's insane.
55:25>> Yeah,
55:25>> I'm just gonna follow you. Just next
55:27time you think about hitting by, whether
55:29you hit it or not, the next time you
55:31think about that, please think about me
55:33as as well and let me know.
55:34>> I got you, bro.
55:35>> All right, TJR's coming on. I'm going to
55:36give it to you and I'm going to go take
55:38my 16th piss of the stream.
55:40>> All right, bet,
55:46>> guys. Can I get a water? What's good,
55:48lads? How we living? How we doing?
55:51>> How's it going?
55:55>> Let's see if I can pull up chat.
56:06Everybody's talking about [ __ ] coins
56:09in the chat.
56:11Um, yeah. Is there if there anything
56:14anything you guys haven't had or
56:17interested in me talking about or like
56:18want us to talk about, want me to look
56:19at, stocks, crypto, whatever it is, tech
56:22stuff, whatever it is, um, let us know
56:24so we can get ahead of it. Um, and pull
56:27it up on stream. I know there's a lot of
56:29I get a lot of inbound questions about
56:32the show and like what we should be
56:33talking about. Um,
56:35but yeah, there's there's always there's
56:38always stuff that I miss for sure.
56:41Somebody said, "SpaceX will be building
56:43future data centers in space. What are
56:45my thoughts on this?" I mean, I I I
56:49don't think it's going to be a
56:50short-term thing that happens. I mean, I
56:52do think Elon's grand vision makes a ton
56:54of sense. Um, and aligning all his
56:57companies, XAI, SpaceX, um, all these
57:00different things together is smart, but
57:02like that's a long-term situation. Like,
57:04we're not going to have data sexy
57:06[ __ ] in here next year.
57:09>> Yeah. Where you at?
57:11Yo,
57:12>> am I here?
57:13>> What's good, bro?
57:14>> You sound like you're in a [ __ ] You
57:16sound like you're in an airplane.
57:17>> Oh, sorry. Here, let me let me turn this
57:19[ __ ] down or let me
57:20>> audio like Yeah, just make sure it's all
57:22the right [ __ ]
57:22>> No, you're good.
57:23>> It sounds better now. That sounds better
57:24now.
57:25>> It's good. Okay, cool.
57:26>> Yeah, just make sure the sources are all
57:28good. Thank you for coming on last
57:29minute. You were going to come on as the
57:30second guest, but uh
57:32>> yeah, Eric Vorhees clearly does not with
57:34us, so you're
57:36>> Damn, bro. What' you guys do?
57:37>> He hates us. I don't know. Oh, no. He
57:39had he had an emergency. We'll have him
57:40on next week or one of the following
57:42weeks. I was excited about Do you know
57:43anything about him?
57:45>> No. No. Yeah. You mentioned the name. I
57:47have no clue.
57:48>> So, this show, what do you think about
57:49this show first off?
57:51>> I I'm I was pumped about it. I watched
57:53the full the full first one that you
57:55guys did. It was awesome.
57:57>> Yeah. I I think that this is um I mean
58:00obviously there's a whole lot of uh
58:03these like stock and crypto shows but I
58:07think you guys are bringing like a fresh
58:09youthful energy to it where we can mix
58:12the I mean it's kind of what I do online
58:13you mix like
58:15>> entertainment with education and you
58:18know put it out to the masses because I
58:20mean we saw
58:22um what has happened with other finance
58:25uh podcasts that get like very little
58:28viewership, you know, getting acquired
58:30for millions of dollars, which is just
58:32insane. Like imagine at what scale, you
58:35know, you would be able to bring this to
58:37if you guys can get like a whole lot
58:38more viewership, which I mean, so far
58:40has been the case.
58:41>> I think something that we're touching on
58:43too, which I feel like a lot of these
58:44like more traditional finance tech shows
58:46ignore, is um an emphasis on attention.
58:49And we we kind of like open this show up
58:51with that and we we talked about Did you
58:53watch Do you watch Thread Guy at all?
58:55>> Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch his uh
58:57interview with Chris Camillo?
58:59>> No,
58:59>> I haven't yet. Are you familiar with
59:01Chris Camilo though?
59:02>> No. What? Who is he?
59:03>> Big narrative trader, bull posts,
59:06Amazon. [ __ ] brilliant guy. Super
59:08super smart guy. I think he's my
59:09favorite. He's like I think he's
59:10becoming my goat.
59:11>> Yeah, he he trades on narratives and
59:12momentum. He flipped 20k into 80 mil
59:14just trading stocks and like
59:17>> firing hard into like single names that
59:19he thought were undervalued and then
59:20riding um those trends and just like
59:23rotating really aggressively. The same
59:24way we rotate aggressively in crypto
59:26like in 2021 it was like Salana Luna
59:28Avac when one's not moving another one.
59:30>> He behaves he behaves in traditional
59:32stocks and trading traditional stocks as
59:34if he was in crypto. He sounds like a
59:36guy who lives in crypto but he he
59:38doesn't.
59:39>> Stocks is the move now in my opinion
59:41>> for sure. We were just talking about
59:43that is crypto entering a bull market
59:45anthem. What was your final conclusion
59:47on that? I I think that yes, I I'll say
59:50yes, but I just think I don't think
59:52Bitcoin and ETH are going to outperform
59:54in the same way that the leading other
59:55leading assets are. I think Zcash and I
59:58think Hype are both going to trend to
59:59all-time highs over the next few months.
1:00:01Um, but I think if I was like how to
1:00:04split my portfolio right now, it would
1:00:06probably be like 70% stocks, 30% crypto.
1:00:08That's how I would I would do the split.
1:00:10Um, I know TJR, you traded crypto, you
1:00:12trade stocks. um tell us a little bit
1:00:14about like your story with trading, how
1:00:16you started with trading and then um how
1:00:18you switched not switched but like got
1:00:21into content from trading and like your
1:00:23view on how that's that's beneficial for
1:00:25people.
1:00:26>> Yeah, for sure. So, I first learned
1:00:29about crypto when I was a freshman in
1:00:31high school. There was a senior on our
1:00:33football team. Um he was like kind of
1:00:36just like the dude that could get [ __ ]
1:00:38on the black market was always like kind
1:00:40of a weird guy. Um, and he was on our
1:00:44football team and essentially just like
1:00:46whatever gave us the whole Bitcoin's
1:00:48going to change the world pitch. Um, and
1:00:51he ended up getting a brand new I think
1:00:54at the time it was like the i8 butterfly
1:00:57doors license plate said Bitcoin. Um,
1:01:00and once I saw that I was like, "Okay,
1:01:02I'm freaking sold." You know, like this
1:01:04dude was able to pretty much just say
1:01:06like, "Fuck everything. I'm able to do
1:01:08this." And as a high schooler, I'd never
1:01:09seen anything like that. Yeah.
1:01:11>> Um and then from there just like pursued
1:01:14crypto um pretty hard and then that's
1:01:17really what led me to get into trading.
1:01:19Started out trading um currencies and
1:01:23that was like okay. I was trading the
1:01:26pound against the yen for a bit and then
1:01:28I would trade gold as well. Um
1:01:31>> what gave you the idea to do that?
1:01:33>> Bro, I literally just looked up like day
1:01:35trading on YouTube. Um, and you know,
1:01:40>> literally. Yeah. Um, and then from
1:01:42there,
1:01:44>> uh, was doing that pretty much all
1:01:46throughout high school. And then the
1:01:482020 bull run is really where I made the
1:01:50majority of my money. It was just like
1:01:52Salana. Everything was built on Salana.
1:01:54And then from there, once I had like a
1:01:56fat stack of cash, um, trading became a
1:02:00lot easier. I think I'm sure a lot of
1:02:02you guys can maybe relate to that where
1:02:05when you no longer are trying to like
1:02:07forcefully make trading uh work like you
1:02:11need it to pay rent or put food on the
1:02:13table. Um it becomes a lot easier to
1:02:16trade because you're not so worried
1:02:17about the risk. You're not nearly as
1:02:20emotional or as emotionally connected to
1:02:22the money that you're risking. Um and
1:02:24then from there I gradually switched
1:02:26over to just trading equities and doing
1:02:29futures. So now I only trade the S&P 500
1:02:32and NASDAQ and I've been doing that for
1:02:36for a while now. Only ES and NAS NASDAQ
1:02:39for like the past two and a half three
1:02:41years.
1:02:42>> So not only are you trading against
1:02:44attention and with that kind of at the
1:02:45forefront, but you're also like I mean
1:02:47is it fair to say to say that attention
1:02:49is kind of the most important piece of
1:02:51like your entire business and like you
1:02:53as a as a brand and as a personality on
1:02:55the internet?
1:02:56>> Oh bro. Oh yeah. Yeah. I for sorry I
1:02:57forgot to mention the like social media
1:02:59come up. So yeah, I started doing social
1:03:02media. It was the I want to say like the
1:03:06first semester of my sophomore year of
1:03:09college. Um and then I ended up dropping
1:03:13out right after right after that because
1:03:15that was when everything just hit
1:03:17all-time highs and obviously made a bag
1:03:19from crypto and then I ended up moving
1:03:21out here to Puerto Rico to avoid all
1:03:24taxes. Um and then
1:03:26>> smart
1:03:26>> that smart.
1:03:28>> Yeah. So that is moving to Puerto Rico
1:03:31is really what like really kicked off my
1:03:34influencer
1:03:35um career because I, you know, wasn't
1:03:38really living in like a college town
1:03:40anymore and I wasn't really like
1:03:42constricted to other people's opinions
1:03:45of like
1:03:45>> and let's face it, what the [ __ ] else is
1:03:47there to do in Puerto Rico, right? So
1:03:48it's like
1:03:49>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:03:51Yeah.
1:03:52>> No, genuinely like I got out here and I
1:03:54looked around and there was the only
1:03:56friends that I could make were 50 years
1:03:58old or older and it was like, "Okay,
1:04:00what are these guys doing? They're
1:04:01working." So I only trade for an hour
1:04:03and a half, two hours in the morning, so
1:04:05I might as well make Tik Toks and
1:04:06YouTube videos on how to do this [ __ ]
1:04:08Um, so
1:04:09>> so it changed your life in two ways
1:04:11really. And obviously one was more
1:04:12calculated and financially um charged,
1:04:15but the second one like Yeah, that's
1:04:17that's interesting. We've actually never
1:04:18talked about that, but that's that's
1:04:20cool.
1:04:21>> Yeah. And now I mean, bro, I see like
1:04:24attention as just the best currency
1:04:27nowadays. Um, you know, like obviously I
1:04:29do my trading in the morning, but I'm
1:04:31killing two birds, one stone. Like I'm
1:04:32streaming my trading on kick in the
1:04:35morning and then after that I'm
1:04:37continuing the stream going IRL or doing
1:04:4020, 30 Tik Toks during the day or making
1:04:42a YouTube video. Like if I'm I need to
1:04:45be putting out as much content as
1:04:46possible because I just see where the
1:04:48world's going. And you you need to have
1:04:50a social presence.
1:04:51>> We got to pick your brain on the short
1:04:53form. Tik Tok, Instagram real. You got
1:04:54to do that. You got to do that because
1:04:55you are that is definitely like
1:04:57>> in my opinion like why anybody knows who
1:05:00you are. Like that's really how you and
1:05:02[ __ ] kind of um
1:05:04>> like a like a [ __ ] virus infected
1:05:06everybody's timelines and everybody's
1:05:08reels. Um, and again, you're just like
1:05:10you're packaging and presenting like you
1:05:12said content like these subjects that
1:05:14we're discussing. We're not the only
1:05:15people who are successful or whoever
1:05:17made money trading, right? But the way
1:05:19we're packaging it and delivering it and
1:05:21and the subjects that we're pairing it
1:05:22with, like this attention piece, like
1:05:24that's what this show ultimately is
1:05:25about. It's about, you know, AI is going
1:05:27to disrupt the [ __ ] out of everything.
1:05:29We talked last time I hung out, we hung
1:05:31out, when was that? It was in LA.
1:05:33>> Yeah. I can't remember when that was.
1:05:35>> We went for a little coffee walk. It was
1:05:36[ __ ] cute. But I was like super
1:05:39pilled on the AI [ __ ] It's like right
1:05:40when I set up Open Claw, I'm like, "Bro,
1:05:42you got to go home and set this [ __ ]
1:05:43up." Where are you at with that right
1:05:44now? Where you at with AI? How is it how
1:05:46is it worked its way into your
1:05:48dayto-day? Are you [ __ ]
1:05:50>> Yeah, I just clawed the [ __ ] out of
1:05:52everything. Um, and for me
1:05:57within a most of I mean I try and use AI
1:06:01as much as possible but I feel like if
1:06:04you have like a software company for
1:06:06example obviously AI is going to be able
1:06:09to help you out immensely. But for me a
1:06:13lot of like for me it's just trading and
1:06:14trading AI isn't necessarily going to
1:06:16help me out too much at least right now.
1:06:19Um, and then content. I'm the only one
1:06:21that can be in front of the camera. So,
1:06:23a lot of my business is just like I'm
1:06:27just asking it advice for little things.
1:06:29And it's helped helped a bit on like the
1:06:31clothing brand side of things that me
1:06:33and my uh my business partner run like
1:06:35to be able to do like ads, SMS, and
1:06:38email. Um, but I feel like it's at least
1:06:42where I'm at right now. Do
1:06:43>> you think you could be doing more or
1:06:44should be doing more with it? Do you
1:06:47feel that or do you or just
1:06:49>> to be honest? Yes. But something that
1:06:53all of the most successful people that
1:06:55I've ever met in my life have told me is
1:06:57like do what you're good at. And
1:07:00>> what I've seen that I'm good at that I
1:07:02will never be replaced at is being in
1:07:05front of a camera. Um, and then also
1:07:07being in front of a chart. So, and right
1:07:09now AI can't necessarily completely
1:07:12replace me. You can still tell that it's
1:07:14an AI version of me. So until that
1:07:16becomes the case, that's when I would
1:07:18want to, you know, be able to actually
1:07:20implement that. I have implemented it
1:07:22with short form and being able to
1:07:24massproduce clips. Yeah, that's a little
1:07:26a little gem that a lot of you guys
1:07:27probably aren't hip to, but yeah, I'm
1:07:29getting like,
1:07:30>> well, that's what we preach. It's like
1:07:31use it for what it's worth. It's a tool,
1:07:33right? Be the human element. Be the best
1:07:35version of like you said, whatever
1:07:37you're good at. Um add emphasis and
1:07:40really that's kind of we're kind of
1:07:41saying the same thing in different ways.
1:07:42I think that you put all your eggs in
1:07:44the baskets that make sense. Like you
1:07:45said, for you it's being in front of a
1:07:47camera and being in front of charts. But
1:07:49um Z, I don't know. It's safe to say
1:07:52what percentage of this show does
1:07:53[ __ ] Claude produce realistically
1:07:55with the [ __ ] like I'll share it
1:07:57right now.
1:07:57>> We do a lot.
1:07:58>> Um
1:07:58>> look at this. There's there's like a
1:08:00there's like a
1:08:01>> we do topics with links and [ __ ]
1:08:03hooks and stuff and Claude does this
1:08:04whole [ __ ] thing and like
1:08:06>> we're recording all of our How do How do
1:08:09we get him back in the middle?
1:08:12Oh, three hosts here. Uh we uh we we rec
1:08:15I record every single meeting that I'm
1:08:17in with whether it's with lawyers,
1:08:19finance people on the market bubble team
1:08:23and you know record it with Gemini and
1:08:25feed it to this thing. And and the way
1:08:26that I've been using it, I think it's
1:08:28interesting for us three because there's
1:08:29so much readily available information
1:08:31about us online. And I think we talked
1:08:33about this on our walk, but it's like,
1:08:35yo, learn me and understand me in every
1:08:38single part of my business and
1:08:40everything that I'm involved in and
1:08:41invested in as much as you possibly can
1:08:43and highlight blind spots or things that
1:08:46you think I could be doing better. All
1:08:47the way from like your health and what
1:08:49you're doing, what you're eating every
1:08:50day to I don't know. It's it's it's
1:08:52that's kind of how I use it like really
1:08:54for everything. And I think I think it's
1:08:56super valuable to just like
1:08:59>> give it as much information as possible
1:09:01about you, your business, everything
1:09:02that you're doing and just allow it to
1:09:03build this like this profile on you and
1:09:05understand you better than yourself
1:09:07because that's where we're headed,
1:09:08right? Like
1:09:08>> yeah,
1:09:09>> we have to use use I a lot at Bullpen.
1:09:12Um, so one of the the key like
1:09:15advantages of Poly Market like them
1:09:17having all of their data on chain allows
1:09:20us to do a lot with indexing that data
1:09:22looking at the top traders looking at
1:09:24all the the information that we get from
1:09:26that. Um, and so like we have a lot that
1:09:30we're able to do with AI the the CL the
1:09:33CLI which is the terminal essentially
1:09:35that's works with claude code um and
1:09:38bullpen if you ever wanted to like build
1:09:40a skill to look at certain sports trends
1:09:42or like look at certain predictions that
1:09:44people are are are looking at. Um you
1:09:46can do all that um directly in your
1:09:48terminal with with what we've built
1:09:49there and also a lot of like the data
1:09:51around whales. Like here we have our
1:09:53page on predictions. This is like our
1:09:55whales page. Um, and you see this guy,
1:09:58it's like a 55% win rate, win rate, has
1:10:01like 800K plus P&L. Um, they've also
1:10:05built out like if you just wanted to
1:10:06copy trade this dude, you could put how
1:10:09much you would copy trade. Um, max size
1:10:12per position, max size per like trader,
1:10:14slippage on each trade. Um, if you
1:10:16wanted to not use any of these limits,
1:10:18you can do that too. Um, but all these
1:10:20things like a lot of the stuff that
1:10:22we've built is a lot is used by AI. AI
1:10:25is in our system to build a lot of these
1:10:28different things. Um, I know TGR, you're
1:10:30you're big on Poly Market. Is there
1:10:31anything you're looking at like trading
1:10:33right now with predictions wise? Um,
1:10:35>> yeah. So, my boy just sent me this. I
1:10:38don't want to take any any claim for
1:10:40this, but my boy sent me this this
1:10:42morning. Um, and I want to hear you
1:10:44guys' thoughts on this because I'm
1:10:45personally going to hammer it. So, I'm
1:10:47going to I'll read you.
1:10:48>> You sound I will say this. You sounded
1:10:50genuinely excited when I called you
1:10:51today. He said, "Yo, I have some [ __ ]
1:10:53>> I am excited. I am excited."
1:10:55>> Crazy World Cup alpha Paul. We're about
1:10:58to get into it. You're about to dump it
1:10:59all to me. And I said, "Save it for the
1:11:00show."
1:11:00>> Okay, for the show. So, this is the
1:11:02first time we're hearing about it.
1:11:03>> Okay. So, this is Okay, this is maybe
1:11:05like part of my degenerate side showing,
1:11:07but World Cup is coming up and so this
1:11:11is this is one of my friends who's like
1:11:14overly loaded. actually he might be on
1:11:18X, but he's anonymous. Um massive uh
1:11:21memecoin guy. Um so he said essentially
1:11:24you're able to buy a dollar for 80 cents
1:11:28right now on Poly Market via the World
1:11:30Cup. So he says you pretty much I'll
1:11:33just read this word for word on the top
1:11:36eight teams on World Cup Poly Market you
1:11:39buy the same amount of shares for each
1:11:42of the teams. And the theory is that by
1:11:45buying the top eight, you're buying
1:11:47around pretty much 80% of the market
1:11:50because odds that one of those teams
1:11:53doesn't win the World Cup is very
1:11:55[ __ ] slip.
1:11:56>> Le less than 20% for sure. Surely.
1:11:58>> Exactly. So you're you're buying more
1:12:00than 80% of the total market.
1:12:02>> This could be a little This could be A
1:12:04BANGER.
1:12:05>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. That's what I'm
1:12:06saying.
1:12:08>> Okay. So again, you're assuming that one
1:12:11of the leading eight teams is going to
1:12:13win, which would cash out at a dollar.
1:12:16So if you put if you buy the same amount
1:12:19of shares across all of the top eight
1:12:21teams, then again, if you were to risk
1:12:24$30,000, you would essentially be able
1:12:26to make $6,000. It's not it's not
1:12:29anything crazy, but again, what are the
1:12:31odds of, you know, not one of the top 18
1:12:34winning?
1:12:34>> No, it makes perfect sense.
1:12:35>> The World Cup. So, I'm per I'm
1:12:38personally hammering it.
1:12:39>> I think I think I'm gonna take this,
1:12:41bro, because Yeah, the top that makes
1:12:42sense. The top eight the top eight
1:12:44teams,
1:12:46>> bro. I don't know [ __ ] about soccer,
1:12:48bro. I'm I'm way football.
1:12:50>> No, but what you're saying just
1:12:50logically makes perfect sense. And these
1:12:52these opportunities obviously exist in
1:12:54sports. Like, you can [ __ ] slam
1:12:55Serena Williams to win her [ __ ] 150th
1:12:58consecutive tennis match. Actually, have
1:13:00a real here's the [ __ ] word of the
1:13:01day again. Anecdote. Real life. My
1:13:04friend, my friend back home, degenerate
1:13:05gambler, slammed some Serena Williams
1:13:07tennis thing. Like that's where he was
1:13:09at. $1,000 to win [ __ ] 50 bucks. But
1:13:12it's like so guaranteed. And he actually
1:13:13ended up losing. So there obviously is
1:13:15still
1:13:17wait,
1:13:19bro. He lost like 20 bands doing that.
1:13:21>> Thousand to win 50.
1:13:23>> I'm making up this number. it was closer
1:13:25to probably a 20 bands of money that he
1:13:27didn't have um to win probably a couple
1:13:30racks, you know, but in his mind it's
1:13:32just like let me farm this quick easy,
1:13:34you know, $1,000.
1:13:36>> But um no, but but but the 20%
1:13:39discrepancy is [ __ ] crazy. Like that
1:13:41that's probably the real odds of that if
1:13:43you ask [ __ ] Claude. I mean, I can do
1:13:45it right now.
1:13:46>> I wonder I wonder I'm going to ask
1:13:48Claude. I'm going to ask Claude right
1:13:49now. I'm going to ask Claude.
1:13:50>> Yeah, that's that is interesting. I mean
1:13:52the the the thing I think with with with
1:13:54poly market and predictions because
1:13:56they're so new and because there's not a
1:13:57lot of volume on them in some certain
1:13:59markets there's a lot of inefficiencies
1:14:01that retail specifically can take
1:14:03advantage of. Um it's kind of similar to
1:14:05what the Chris Camila guy was talking
1:14:07about. It's like there's areas where if
1:14:09you're not a large entity that needs to
1:14:10trade like billions of dollars, there's
1:14:12certain areas in the market where you
1:14:14just can be better than a fund is. And I
1:14:16think it's the same thing with
1:14:17prediction markets. Um there's a lot of
1:14:19areas that you can trade where you might
1:14:20just have an advantage, have more
1:14:22knowledge on that certain topic than
1:14:23somebody or you see something that moves
1:14:25slower than um something else. Like a
1:14:27lot of people have made bots
1:14:29specifically for tailing people that are
1:14:31doing well or tailing or adap adapting
1:14:35uh to changes in other markets that like
1:14:37poly market's not the first for. So it's
1:14:40definitely an area you can you can make
1:14:41money on.
1:14:42>> That might be a little money glitch,
1:14:44brother. I might have to slam that as
1:14:45well.
1:14:46>> What's what's the uh I might have to say
1:14:48that as well. 100 bands win. Win win a
1:14:50quick 20. It's like guaranteed.
1:14:52>> That's what I'm saying. That's what I
1:14:55was thinking. Like, yo, risk you risk a
1:14:57100 rags.
1:14:58>> 100.
1:14:59>> Yeah, that's that's fire.
1:15:02>> Oh, we might have lost them.
1:15:04>> Yeah.
1:15:04>> No. Sorry. Sorry. My [ __ ]
1:15:07>> um Are you the Isn't the World Cup in
1:15:08New York? It's here, right?
1:15:10>> It's in the US. Yeah. Yeah,
1:15:12>> it's in I think some of the games are in
1:15:13It's in New York, right?
1:15:15>> Wait, wait, hold on now. Hold on. Hold
1:15:16on. Hold on. Hold on.
1:15:17>> There's one in Miami. I know that.
1:15:22>> It's saying it's saying 20%. It's it's
1:15:24it's it's odds. It's odds for the top
1:15:28for somebody. The top This is clawed. I
1:15:30didn't give it any other context. I just
1:15:32gave it what do you think the odds the
1:15:33top eight favored teams, whatever. And
1:15:36um
1:15:38it says 20. It says combined 80%. So
1:15:40>> So you chance
1:15:42>> Poly Market's accurate. I guess you're
1:15:44not really getting a ton of
1:15:47I don't know. When's the last time
1:15:49somebody out of the top eight though
1:15:50won? Is that
1:15:51>> I'm saying that's what I'm saying. Like
1:15:53look at find that average.
1:15:55>> 20 20% is [ __ ] crazy.
1:15:57>> Yeah.
1:15:58>> I wonder how much it is to go to some of
1:15:59the games. So those are probably going
1:16:00to be lit. Um
1:16:02>> I'm definitely going to go. I don't even
1:16:04know [ __ ] I don't know [ __ ] about
1:16:05soccer, but I know they turn up.
1:16:07>> Yeah, they're soccer fans are die hard.
1:16:10>> They're die hard.
1:16:12>> Yeah. I might pull up to some of that
1:16:13[ __ ] too. When is in June, right? The
1:16:15first I think the first round is in
1:16:17June. Like middle of June or something.
1:16:20I think
1:16:25>> So, you're still you're still in in PR
1:16:27now, right? How much you go back and
1:16:29forth or like you have to do 50% or
1:16:31whatever it is?
1:16:32>> Yeah, you got to do 183 days out here.
1:16:36And honestly, man, I I need to talk my
1:16:38[ __ ] Everybody, everybody on Twitter, I
1:16:41love seeing people on Twitter say, "Oh
1:16:43yeah, I could move to Puerto Rico, but I
1:16:45don't want to live in a hut." Bro,
1:16:47Puerto Rico living is so great. Like, it
1:16:50is.
1:16:51>> You're never going to convince me.
1:16:52>> It's so bad. Have you, bro? Come to
1:16:55Dorado Beach. Come to Dorado Beach. I'm
1:16:58sure I'm sure I could enjoy I could
1:17:00enjoy. We honestly should.
1:17:02>> We should We should pull up. I'm down to
1:17:03come visit.
1:17:04>> Puerto Ricans are sexy as [ __ ] too.
1:17:06Puerto Rican girls are sexy as [ __ ]
1:17:08That is true.
1:17:09>> Um, I'm sure I could enjoy it with you.
1:17:10You obviously have a whole [ __ ] home
1:17:11base. You're talking about buying
1:17:13[ __ ] ferris wheels and [ __ ] You're
1:17:14like buying up real estate and business
1:17:16in Puerto Rico.
1:17:18>> Okay. So, so for for for context, they
1:17:20just extended the tax act to 2055.
1:17:23Originally, it was going to end in 2035.
1:17:25So, first of all, you have to understand
1:17:28that my income I'm making double what
1:17:31everybody else if they're making the
1:17:32same amount as me, I'm making double the
1:17:34amount as them. And then not only that,
1:17:36I'm able to make double from my
1:17:38investments because it's 4% federal
1:17:40income tax. So I'm still still paying a
1:17:43tiny bit, but then 0% capital gains. So
1:17:46how do you expect anybody that's making
1:17:48the same amount of money in the states
1:17:50to be able to operate at the same level?
1:17:52It's just not possible. Um, and I also
1:17:57look at all of these billionaires that
1:17:59are living here. If they if they can
1:18:01justify living here, I sure as hell can
1:18:03justify living here. And I also
1:18:06>> I think it makes perfect sense for you.
1:18:07I think it makes perfect sense for you.
1:18:08And honestly, I'm really [ __ ] sold on
1:18:10it in regards of like you and your life
1:18:13just just based on kind of kind of
1:18:15learning and discovering that that's
1:18:17really what pushed you into content as
1:18:18heavy as you're in it. Like being bored
1:18:20is a good thing sometimes. I mean, right
1:18:21now like I I'm I'm super I've isolated
1:18:24myself the last the last year. Not in
1:18:26like a depressing dark way, but I've
1:18:27I've decided to spend a lot more time on
1:18:29my own with myself and it's been great.
1:18:32It's been very productive. I live alone
1:18:33now. Um, and yeah, I mean being bored
1:18:36and having nothing to do and being in
1:18:38your in your head in in a good Yeah,
1:18:41being in grind mode is a good thing.
1:18:42>> Wait, so when's your number on when you
1:18:45would leave though? Like there has to be
1:18:46some number where you're like, "Okay, I
1:18:47don't need to be in Puerto Rico
1:18:49anymore."
1:18:50>> Cuz like if you like are you going to
1:18:52you plan on settling down there like
1:18:53forever or like you want to,
1:18:55>> bro? There's one of the best private
1:18:56schools in the country in my freaking
1:18:58neighborhood.
1:18:59>> For real.
1:18:59>> Like Yes, bro. So if I have kids, I know
1:19:02exactly where I'm sending them. Oh,
1:19:03you're you're really serious about the
1:19:04Puerto Rico [ __ ] For real,
1:19:06>> brother. When I said he bought a ferris
1:19:07wheel, he's like buying business in real
1:19:09estate in Puerto Rico actively.
1:19:12>> That's why.
1:19:12>> Yeah. Like I mean, obviously I think the
1:19:17only thing that I have with Puerto Rico
1:19:20is is the days. Like I love having this
1:19:24being my primary residence, but I would
1:19:27just like to travel a little bit more.
1:19:29like if I could only spend like four
1:19:31months here, that would be best for me.
1:19:34Um, so honestly, I think, bro, I love
1:19:38life out here. So, I honestly never
1:19:40really imagine myself leaving this as my
1:19:44primary residence. But if I say
1:19:47whatever, I want to have a house in like
1:19:49Orange County, which I love Orange
1:19:51County. Um, then, you know, maybe once I
1:19:55hit a certain number or
1:19:57>> what I personally, I don't really know
1:20:00what that what that number is. Um, but
1:20:03it would have to be a lot to be honest.
1:20:06This is a huge factor we're not talking
1:20:07about or considering right now either.
1:20:08And that's just like who you wind up
1:20:10having kids with, who your wife ends up
1:20:11being, who your partner ends up being.
1:20:12Obviously, her opinion and how she feels
1:20:14like
1:20:15>> is going to heavily dictate what you do
1:20:17next. And that completely changes
1:20:19things. You know what I mean?
1:20:20>> For sure.
1:20:21>> It's interesting.
1:20:23>> Um,
1:20:24>> but you you can't tell me that like
1:20:26Okay, so you live in LA and then Anom,
1:20:30where do you where do you live? New
1:20:31York.
1:20:31>> In New York. Yeah.
1:20:33>> Oh, so you guys are getting
1:20:36We also live in the two best cities on
1:20:37earth, brother.
1:20:39>> That I can go and visit for half the
1:20:42year and I can still get tax advantages,
1:20:45bro. Like,
1:20:47>> you know,
1:20:49>> so like you're not telling me, okay, I
1:20:51I'm I'm here I'm here to pitch you guys.
1:20:53Like, you're not telling me that you
1:20:55don't spend at least half of your year
1:20:58in an office or working
1:21:02>> this last year maybe. But but my the
1:21:05whole my whole life, no. And I don't
1:21:07know, man. Like it's whenever I think
1:21:09about this. I like waking up and I like
1:21:11walking through Beverly Hills and I like
1:21:13[ __ ] my little routine and I love the
1:21:15weather and I love the people. I have a
1:21:17whole life here, you know? I have a
1:21:19company and employees here. I have
1:21:20[ __ ] I built an entire life for
1:21:22myself which is why I worked so hard was
1:21:24to build this foundation and this life
1:21:25for that's like the loop that I get
1:21:27stuck in. I'm like
1:21:27>> see that somebody like you that's that's
1:21:30the that's the most difficult thing for
1:21:31people. I left a place that I had no
1:21:35attachment at all. You know, I was
1:21:37leaving like Salt Lake City, freaking
1:21:39Utah that I was just like, "Bet like,
1:21:41dude."
1:21:41>> I will say this, the first original FaZe
1:21:43house, we all moved into a house in Long
1:21:45Island because it was close to the
1:21:46sponsor that was paying for it. This
1:21:47before any of us made any sort of bread.
1:21:49Um, and we lived in a house in uh, Plain
1:21:52View, Long Island, and we never left the
1:21:54crib. We sat in the house all day and
1:21:56played Call of Duty and CS GO and made
1:21:58[ __ ] YouTube videos, and we could
1:21:59have did that anywhere. And um it was
1:22:01one of the most lively, engaging, one of
1:22:04one of my most it's it's a chapter of my
1:22:06life that I cherish. And I think part of
1:22:08it was I I wasn't leaving anything
1:22:09behind. I was like trying actively to
1:22:12switch it up. And I was with who I
1:22:14needed to be. I I don't know.
1:22:17>> Yeah. I I love New York, bro. I'm not
1:22:19going anywhere. I'm not.
1:22:21>> Yeah. New New York New York's great for
1:22:23sure. New York New York is one of those
1:22:25cities where you just like everywhere
1:22:26you go, if you travel, like if you stay
1:22:29there for a certain amount of time and
1:22:31you come back to New York, you're always
1:22:32like, "Yeah, there's no city like New
1:22:33York." No matter where I go, literally.
1:22:35Um, so yeah, I'm
1:22:37>> I I agree with that. New York New York
1:22:39is is amazing. Every time I go there,
1:22:41I'm like, "Damn, this is this is the
1:22:42city for sure."
1:22:44>> Okay, so so breakdown. I I didn't catch
1:22:47the beginning of this because I was um
1:22:50busy. What were you guys talking like
1:22:51stocks and crypto-wise? Yeah, we're
1:22:53talking about stocks, talking about
1:22:54crypto. Um, we were talking about Zcash
1:22:57and Hype. We think those are like the
1:22:58two best crypto trades right now.
1:23:01>> Great.
1:23:01>> I'm crushing it, bro. The
1:23:03>> Hyperliquid's an amazing
1:23:04>> My only um only caveat with Hype, like
1:23:06their their past quarter, their revenue
1:23:09is pretty much flat. Like it's one of
1:23:10the only quarters that they haven't
1:23:11grown substantially in revenue since
1:23:13their launch. But they've done an
1:23:15amazing job with um implementing stocks
1:23:18trading. So like before obviously they'd
1:23:19per for all of crypto. Now they have per
1:23:21for stocks, commodities, crypto, all
1:23:23these things. And I think stocks right
1:23:24now are close to like 30 or 40% of the
1:23:27top 10 like volume right now on what's
1:23:29what's trading on the platform.
1:23:30>> So I'm surprised to trade on Hyperlid
1:23:33ever.
1:23:33>> I was no I was just about to say I'm
1:23:35actually thinking of transitioning to
1:23:37trading.
1:23:39>> You absolutely should.
1:23:41>> Okay. So the only the only problem is
1:23:43when I tested it
1:23:45>> trading pers is at least when you're
1:23:48calculating risk or maybe because I was
1:23:51doing it on my phone maybe it's better
1:23:53on desktop but when you're calculating
1:23:54risk you have to adjust leverage every
1:23:56single time because for me I'm not
1:23:58placing um trades based off of just like
1:24:01a certain like obviously I have a set
1:24:03dollar amount that I'm willing to risk
1:24:04per trade but I'm doing it based off of
1:24:06price action and for me I'm entering
1:24:08like when I'm trading on futures I need
1:24:10to be able to enter within seconds. Y
1:24:14>> um so being able to whatever drag the
1:24:16little leverage button and then find the
1:24:19exact amount of leverage and then put it
1:24:21into like a risk management calculator
1:24:22to be able to find exactly where that's
1:24:24supposed to be at to place my stop and
1:24:26whatever. Um at least when I tested it
1:24:30on my phone, it was maybe I didn't give
1:24:32it enough of a shot, but it took too
1:24:35much time versus on Trading View, you
1:24:38know, that shit's automatically
1:24:39integrated. You literally just press a
1:24:40button and then boom, like it's done.
1:24:42They already have like the risk
1:24:43management tool open on the right hand
1:24:45side when you're even thinking of
1:24:46placing the trade when you're trading
1:24:48futures.
1:24:49>> Yeah, I mean for for bullpen we
1:24:51implemented implemented hyperlquid on
1:24:53the back end. Um if you wanted to ever
1:24:55just test out our platform and see like
1:24:57if it is direct onetoone with how you
1:25:00trade on whatever you do interactive
1:25:01brokers or
1:25:03>> no no I do uh trade station trade
1:25:06station. Yeah. But a lot of the the same
1:25:08things you can do there you can do on
1:25:10bullpen. We have pers for stocks. Perks
1:25:11for the index, but you said you trade
1:25:13mostly the the indices, right?
1:25:15>> Yeah. Yes. And NASDAQ.
1:25:16>> Yeah. So, we have everything um here.
1:25:18We're actually doing a competition next
1:25:21week. Um you definitely should sign up
1:25:23and join if if you're interested in
1:25:24testing out Hyperlid, but it's 25K to
1:25:27enter and then the winner gets 100K. So,
1:25:30we can trade whatever you want that's
1:25:32available on like the Hyperlquid
1:25:33platform, which we all have enabled.
1:25:35crypto, indices, stocks, anything. Um,
1:25:37but yeah, we're doing that next.
1:25:38>> Yeah, I need to test it out on my
1:25:41desktop because when I was doing it on
1:25:42my phone, I like just gave up
1:25:44immediately. I was like, "Bro, dragging
1:25:46this leverage thing is going to drive me
1:25:48freaking nuts." And having to calculate
1:25:50the the risk on the side or like go to a
1:25:53completely different browser to
1:25:54calculate risk to figure out what x
1:25:56leverage I'm supposed to put on this is
1:25:58it's just not going to work with my
1:26:00style.
1:26:00>> Yeah. No. Yeah, you I can I can get you
1:26:03all all set up. But um it's you might
1:26:06have also tried it out like a lot
1:26:07earlier in their in their days. They've
1:26:09been made like a lot of improvements to
1:26:11the platform and desktop is definitely
1:26:12better than than mobile, but we have
1:26:14both.
1:26:15>> Um yeah.
1:26:17>> So what's what's what's hot stock stock
1:26:19stock narratives? Obviously obviously
1:26:21AI, but um
1:26:24>> what are what are you what are you
1:26:25looking at right now?
1:26:26>> Yeah, I'm looking at um we talked about
1:26:29Intel earlier. I think Intel is really
1:26:31good. It's up a good amount. I think
1:26:32it's going to pull back and consolidate,
1:26:34but I think the this year, next year,
1:26:36they're going to be one of the core um
1:26:38stocks that's going to do well the same
1:26:40way that Nvidia did well from 2022 to
1:26:42now. So, I like Intel a lot. Um we also
1:26:45talked about Souls, which is like a
1:26:46lower key one. This company called
1:26:48Solstice Advanced Materials. So, they're
1:26:50one of the key um parts of the process
1:26:53of converting uranium ore to um what you
1:26:57need for nuclear power. And like as you
1:27:00know
1:27:01>> earth those ones are going crazy.
1:27:03>> Yeah. Yeah. So they're they're um the
1:27:05company's involved with that solstice um
1:27:08like the US is investing a lot into
1:27:10energy a lot into the grid and we think
1:27:12that's going to be one of the areas that
1:27:13catches this AI tailwind of momentum
1:27:15that hasn't really moved all that much
1:27:17yet. Um what else have we talked about?
1:27:19We talked about MP. That's another like
1:27:21rare earth metals company. Um,
1:27:24>> Trump is looking to close off all those
1:27:27chi uh all the connections to China rare
1:27:30earth stuff uh January 1st, 2027. So, I
1:27:34mean, who knows if that's that's, you
1:27:36know, like a buy the rumor, sell the
1:27:39news sort of situation. I think that
1:27:41it'll probably like price itself in
1:27:43before January 1st of 2027. Um, but
1:27:46that's that I have the same thesis.
1:27:48That's like where my head's at with all
1:27:49the Rare Earth stuff.
1:27:50>> It is. It's not even a rumor for this
1:27:52specifically because you know how Trump
1:27:53bought 10% of Intel.
1:27:55>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:27:56>> They also bought I think it's 5% of this
1:27:58company MP. So they already have like
1:28:00invested in the company and when they
1:28:02first invested in it I think it was like
1:28:04a late in 2025 and it it moved up a lot.
1:28:07Now it's like consolidated. I think it's
1:28:08going to start moving.
1:28:09>> Pull up MP's chart.
1:28:10>> MP. Yeah. Pull it up. Yeah.
1:28:11>> It's a good it's a good chart.
1:28:12>> I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
1:28:14What else are they [ __ ] buying? Again
1:28:16before today I didn't know the US could
1:28:17go buy companies like
1:28:19>> Yeah. The [ __ ] is that?
1:28:21>> Crazy.
1:28:22>> That changes everything.
1:28:23>> Yeah, I'll pull I'll pull up the chart.
1:28:24It's um Yes, this is the MP chart. Um so
1:28:29I think here was like the original
1:28:30announcement in like late mid 2025. It
1:28:34went from 15 or like 18 to close to 100,
1:28:38tapped 100, and now it's just been
1:28:40sitting consolidating over it prior
1:28:42alltime highs. I think it's a good spot.
1:28:44Um I agree on the rare earths. Um, the
1:28:46US wants to be not relying on China as
1:28:48much as we're reliant now because we're
1:28:49like so heavily relying on them. And
1:28:51obviously it's not a great thing. Um, so
1:28:53I think the companies that are um, we're
1:28:56building and working in this area are
1:28:57going to do well. But yeah,
1:28:58>> what's the market cap? 10B's.
1:29:00>> It's it's low, bro. Yeah, it's 10bs.
1:29:02>> How about um how about space? Because
1:29:05obviously SpaceX is going to IPO.
1:29:07Obviously Rocket Lab's been going crazy
1:29:09in uh, Fly Aerospace. Um, you think
1:29:13those keep keep going until uh SpaceX
1:29:16IPOs and then we get a big push from
1:29:20whatever pretty much all space stocks
1:29:22once we see the market cap that SpaceX
1:29:25IPOs at.
1:29:26>> Yeah, actually actually hit Rocket Lab
1:29:28really well. I I bought it at like 67
1:29:30and sold at like 60 something. Um 6S.
1:29:35>> Dude, we're [ __ ]
1:29:37ridiculous.
1:29:39Yeah. But no, I think Rocket Lab is
1:29:40going to do well. I I wish I would have
1:29:42re-entered though. Like I That was one
1:29:43where I was like, "This [ __ ] 10x. It's
1:29:45obviously topped for now." Like, I'm
1:29:46going to just exit. It topped and then
1:29:48it just kept [ __ ] ripping and it went
1:29:50to like 120 or something now. I'm not in
1:29:52it right now, but I I agree it's a good
1:29:54spot. I think SpaceX the valuation is so
1:29:57ridiculous. I think they're trying to
1:29:59IPO like 1.8 trillion or some something
1:30:02crazy like that. Um, and a lot of the
1:30:05other space ops, I think Firefly is one.
1:30:07ASTS is one, Rocket Lab is one. Um, I
1:30:11agree with you. They are catching those
1:30:12those tailwind ones, but Rocket Lab is
1:30:13it's like far and away the the best um
1:30:16one. I think like they're the second
1:30:18biggest for sure.
1:30:19>> How do you how do you think SpaceX is
1:30:21going to trade once once it comes out? I
1:30:23think it's going to be like a uh the the
1:30:26Pudgy Penguins situation where that [ __ ]
1:30:29gets like a spike, comes down, and then
1:30:31slowly comes right back on up.
1:30:33>> Yeah. I I don't I would be amazed if it
1:30:36launches around two two trillion and
1:30:39doesn't go down and then consolidate.
1:30:40Like if it just goes straight to F. I
1:30:42would be I'll be [ __ ] amazed if it
1:30:44just goes straight to five. Um
1:30:45especially because with space and a lot
1:30:48of what SpaceX is trying to do, it's not
1:30:50like an immediate thing. like they're
1:30:52not going to have immediate impact as
1:30:54soon as they IPO. I don't think so. I I
1:30:56think it's going to be like a slower a
1:30:57slower play. I think if SpaceX IPOs,
1:30:59Anthropic IPOs, Open AI IPOs, that's got
1:31:04to put in some kind of local top for
1:31:05markets. It has to. It's just too much
1:31:07money.
1:31:08>> So, you got to short the IPO.
1:31:10>> I don't know if I'll I don't know if
1:31:12I'll short.
1:31:13>> Yeah, I wouldn't I don't know.
1:31:15>> I wouldn't short that.
1:31:16>> Yeah, it's tricky. That
1:31:18>> I would just I would just say sit on
1:31:20your hands and wait. and see if it gives
1:31:22you like a if and see if it goes lower.
1:31:25>> Yeah. The thing with Elon companies is
1:31:27like they they trade off attention a
1:31:29lot. Like they trade off momentum a lot.
1:31:31Like Tesla, that company did well a lot
1:31:36of like for a lot of the reason before
1:31:37they were actually like selling a lot of
1:31:39cars and doing well like revenue-wise.
1:31:40They did well because of the narrative
1:31:42around EVs and the narrative around the
1:31:43company and Elon doing such a good job
1:31:45of selling and shilling that. Like so
1:31:48his companies are are tricky because
1:31:49he's such a good marketer of all the
1:31:51stuff that he he works in and he has a
1:31:53really good story and thesis for
1:31:55combining them all together. Like the
1:31:56buy of of Twitter converting that to X
1:31:59is huge I think huge for um his
1:32:02positioning. He's super smart in that
1:32:04way before a lot of other people um can
1:32:06be. Do you hold any crypto currently
1:32:08TGR?
1:32:10>> Um all just stables right now. Um, and
1:32:14you know what? I like
1:32:18I got out of all my Bitcoin. I took a
1:32:20loss. Um, I was buying a bunch as it
1:32:23came down to like a 100,000 and as it
1:32:27got into 90.
1:32:28>> You were [ __ ] slamming it too, right?
1:32:30>> Yeah. The figures.
1:32:32>> Um, I mean, bro, I put in close to like
1:32:381.5 mil. Um,
1:32:42>> bro, like yeah, a lot. Um, but like,
1:32:48yes, I mean, obviously that's that's
1:32:51going to hurt. You know, I'm going to
1:32:53lose six figures on it, but I would
1:32:55rather take I would rather take that
1:32:57loss and allocate that money elsewhere.
1:33:01>> Um, I just
1:33:03>> I remember where I'm at, man. Insane,
1:33:07bro. It's just
1:33:07>> I thought it was a good spot. like the
1:33:09where you were buying Bitcoin at. If
1:33:11this was like how crypto traded in 2017,
1:33:14you would have been up like 50% in like
1:33:16a few months.
1:33:16>> I was ready to [ __ ] on everybody.
1:33:17Everyone was talking [ __ ] and I was
1:33:19like, "Oh my gosh, I can't wait for this
1:33:20[ __ ] to go." And then it just didn't.
1:33:22And now I'm like, "Okay, I can't say
1:33:24anything."
1:33:25>> What was the main contributing factor to
1:33:27you making that move to you to you?
1:33:30>> Um,
1:33:32>> slamming 1.5 M into in Bitcoin. Why?
1:33:35>> Well, it was you had to sum it up to one
1:33:37thing. It was dollar cost or it wasn't
1:33:39really like dollar cost average, but it
1:33:40was as it kept going down, I just kept
1:33:42putting more and more in.
1:33:43>> I saw I remember the tweets and I
1:33:44remember you posting like live posting.
1:33:47>> Um,
1:33:49to be honest, I just I I saw those
1:33:51prices and I I thought that we were due
1:33:54for another leg up. Um, I also thought
1:33:57that, you know, even if I were to get in
1:34:00here, I can survive the draw down. And
1:34:03then really right around that time was
1:34:06when crypto just kind of fell off a
1:34:08cliff and like stocks just took over.
1:34:11And that's when I was like, "Ah, man. I
1:34:15uh top ticked top ticked longs here.
1:34:18>> I've top ticked a lot of things, bro.
1:34:20It's it's fun. I top ticked a lot of
1:34:22shit." So you still you still kind of
1:34:23feeling the same way? Sit on your hands
1:34:24crypto. Ignore it. Focus on what you
1:34:27>> Yeah, I' I've got a bunch of money in in
1:34:29stables right now. And I mean I funny
1:34:32enough I've just been buying um like
1:34:35stupid [ __ ] like just watches. Um and
1:34:38I'm actually up a lot on the watches
1:34:40that I've bought. I'm up o over six
1:34:42figures. So I I've actually made back
1:34:44the money that I lost or made back the
1:34:46majority of the money that I lost um
1:34:48from the Bitcoin from just buying
1:34:51watches with my uh watches stable.
1:34:55>> Uh like Richard Mills. Uh, so yeah, I
1:34:59got two 6702s. Those have been going up
1:35:02a lot.
1:35:03>> 6701, baby.
1:35:05>> There we go. We're matching.
1:35:06>> They're the best.
1:35:07>> Um, and then I got this uh white ceramic
1:35:11AP that has gone up uh around like 50 to
1:35:16$70,000. The 6702s are the ones that
1:35:19have gone up a significant amount. Um,
1:35:22>> I think it's RM's best watch. I
1:35:24personally like the 6701 better because
1:35:25it just suits more of my [ __ ] But you
1:35:29>> 672 is like the [ __ ] kind of the holy
1:35:31grail for someone like you, I would say.
1:35:34>> Um Z, do you buy watches? Do you wear
1:35:36watches?
1:35:36>> Bro, I don't buy watches. I don't buy
1:35:38jewelry. I don't do none of that [ __ ] I
1:35:39don't have any tattoos. None of it.
1:35:42>> Tattoos.
1:35:42>> What are you trying to say, bro?
1:35:46>> Bro, [ __ ] have a lot of tattoos.
1:35:48>> I'll say I'll say jewelry together.
1:35:49>> I'll say jewelry. I'll say I'll I'll
1:35:51agree. I'll concede. tattoos. [ __ ]
1:35:54>> for sure.
1:35:54>> I mean, I think I think they're
1:35:55[ __ ] I just don't [ __ ] with them. I
1:35:57just
1:35:57>> two most jewelry [ __ ] Well, there's
1:35:59no like it just doesn't mean it's a
1:36:01sickness. I'm sick. TJ is sick. We're
1:36:03degenerate. We're [ __ ] we're scum
1:36:05slime to our [ __ ] core, right? Um,
1:36:09but watches though, there's something to
1:36:10watches, bro. There's something to like
1:36:12like like to be said in terms of trading
1:36:14watches. It's honestly fun. Like it's
1:36:16like a I know you weren't really into
1:36:17NFTTS either, so I I guess that part of
1:36:19your brain is just like turned off.
1:36:22>> I mean, bro, I would rather I would
1:36:24rather have
1:36:26>> I could just see like a nice aquinaut.
1:36:28Like you you just scream like
1:36:31>> aquat quiet luxury like like a PC.
1:36:35>> Get an FPJ, bro.
1:36:37>> I've heard of I've heard of that brand.
1:36:39That's like the more uh
1:36:40>> buy a watch, bro. Buy one watch. Buy a
1:36:43nice watch. Who would love to You know
1:36:45who would love to go shopping for a
1:36:47watch for you? Your girl. And she knows
1:36:49you're [ __ ]
1:36:49>> swe She She tries to get me to I just
1:36:51got her I got her some [ __ ] but she
1:36:53tries to get me to uh You know what my
1:36:54take You know what my take on jewelry
1:36:56is?
1:36:57>> I think jewelry is for women. That's my
1:36:59take.
1:37:00>> All right, bro. It's okay. Nah, me and
1:37:02Banks are on the more feminine side.
1:37:04It's cool, bro. It's okay.
1:37:07>> Yeah, dude. That's
1:37:08>> But watch it. No, no. See, see, I
1:37:10actually agree. I tend to agree. I don't
1:37:12wear any jewelry either. I used to wear
1:37:14piercings in my ears. I've kind of
1:37:16abandoned all that. I'll say when I see
1:37:18a girl like I I'll I'll meet girls in LA
1:37:21and the archetype is like rich family or
1:37:24a hooker. Like is that right hooker
1:37:28carrying the Birkin done up pretty [ __ ]
1:37:30with like a with if she's wearing a
1:37:32watch it's like 16 Cardier bracelets, 16
1:37:35Van Clee bracelets. And if a girl has a
1:37:38watch on, that's where you that's where
1:37:40I draw the line. I don't think women
1:37:42look good in watches. I think watches
1:37:43are masculine. Yeah, watches are watches
1:37:45are a guy thing, bro.
1:37:47>> That make that's fair.
1:37:48>> Even just look at how they're designed.
1:37:49Like like like how many Rolexes would
1:37:51look good on a on a woman versus a man,
1:37:53you know? It's like time pieces and cars
1:37:56I feel like are are guy things.
1:37:58>> Yeah.
1:37:59>> Yeah. And they also only attract dudes.
1:38:01Like no girl.
1:38:04>> Oh my god.
1:38:06>> And if she does, head for the [ __ ]
1:38:08hills cuz that [ __ ] is a [ __ ]
1:38:09hookie. Exactly. If she knows what a
1:38:12Richard Mill is, you got to run, bro.
1:38:14>> Facts.
1:38:15>> Yeah, it seems like I mean I do
1:38:16understand watches. Watches make sense
1:38:18because it's kind of like a status
1:38:19symbol for people. Like there's no
1:38:21there's like really easy way if you're
1:38:23in a room with like some important
1:38:24people, important businessman, you have
1:38:25a nice watch on. It's like, oh, what's
1:38:27your like I understand those
1:38:28conversations. That makes sense to me.
1:38:29It seems
1:38:30>> a cool way to display taste as well, you
1:38:32know? Like it's like it's there aren't
1:38:33many things that you can like invest in
1:38:35or
1:38:36>> you know like articulate status and like
1:38:39it goes one layer deeper where it's like
1:38:41oh this [ __ ] guy knows like you know
1:38:43you know
1:38:43>> like for for me the way I think about it
1:38:45would I rather have $300,000 that I'm
1:38:48not using sitting in my bank account or
1:38:50just put it on my wrist? I would rather
1:38:52just put it on my wrist because at least
1:38:53I can wear it. Um, and at least it looks
1:38:56cool to me. And then I'm completely
1:38:58going to sell these things once I'm
1:39:00ready to get get into the market. But at
1:39:03least right now, at least on the crypto
1:39:06side of things, I don't see nothing that
1:39:08>> attention. I don't see nothing.
1:39:12>> Speaking to attention watches, did you
1:39:13see the AP thing? The AP Swatch thing?
1:39:15It was [ __ ] everywhere. You obviously
1:39:16saw it.
1:39:16>> Yes. Yeah.
1:39:17>> Yeah. Absolutely everywhere.
1:39:20>> Did it happen?
1:39:20>> It went super viral. No, but I think
1:39:22they um I think they dropped the uh
1:39:25We're not
1:39:25>> Yeah, it's like it's a pocket watch.
1:39:27It's It dangles from like a keychain. It
1:39:29looks like a air tag. It's It's like an
1:39:31Air Tag. Um
1:39:33>> we'll watch this.
1:39:35This is it, right?
1:39:36>> Yeah, I think
1:39:42>> that one's hard, bro. That [ __ ] is not
1:39:45hard, bro. H I That's the type of [ __ ]
1:39:49that you're going to see like these
1:39:52ancient
1:39:52>> this [ __ ] is ugly. That this [ __ ] is
1:39:54This Arizona iced tea ass watch is
1:39:57[ __ ] hideous.
1:39:58>> This is Bro, you're about to see high
1:39:59schoolers rock rocking these shits, bro.
1:40:01>> That shit's going to be hanging from a
1:40:02keychain. I'm going to buy like 10 by
1:40:04way. That's why it's genius. I saw
1:40:07people [ __ ] all over this. I saw [ __ ]
1:40:09people and I think it's a really
1:40:10[ __ ] take to be like, I'm selling my
1:40:12AP because now the barrier to entry yada
1:40:14yada. We've seen this and most of the
1:40:16time when it's done the right way. I
1:40:17don't know if this is done the right or
1:40:19the wrong way. I think them not making a
1:40:20wristwatch is the move. Um that keeps
1:40:22like that in its own separate class, but
1:40:25like we saw OffWe and Nike do a collab
1:40:28to great success. We saw Louis Vuitton
1:40:30and Supreme do a collab to great
1:40:32success. These are brands that are on
1:40:34significantly different levels. um you
1:40:36know and they they traded they they they
1:40:38they they delivered a product for
1:40:40somebody that was outside of their you
1:40:42know typical like ecosystem and and
1:40:44outside of their typical customer to
1:40:45great success. Like these are some of
1:40:47the more um success like Porsche did a
1:40:49Lego collab before and like the
1:40:51psychology of that it makes sense. It's
1:40:53like and I'm sure the Porsche Lego
1:40:55collab trades very well past you know
1:40:57what whatever it was released for retail
1:40:59but like you put a [ __ ] Porsche Lego
1:41:01in front of like a 12-year-old kid and
1:41:03he loves it and he's obsessed with it.
1:41:04the rest of his life he wants the real
1:41:06thing.
1:41:06>> That's true.
1:41:07>> You know, I can see that.
1:41:08>> I feel like I feel like that's kind of
1:41:09along the lines. I don't think it's a
1:41:10bad thing. I think if like now there's a
1:41:13[ __ ] real like like it's a realistic
1:41:15goal for some kid in high school to go
1:41:16buy a [ __ ] $1,500 AP and throw that
1:41:19[ __ ] on his backpack and it doesn't mean
1:41:21[ __ ] to us because we're millionaires,
1:41:23right? And we're [ __ ] adults. But
1:41:24like for him it's like holy [ __ ] And
1:41:27now in his mind he's like I got to work
1:41:28my ass off for the next 10 years so I
1:41:30can go buy the real thing. I don't know.
1:41:32>> Yeah. I think it's genius level
1:41:34marketing. Also, the entire episode the
1:41:37the entire episode's been about
1:41:38attention. That was one of the biggest
1:41:39things that happened on the timeline
1:41:41this whole [ __ ] year, which I can't
1:41:43believe that. Like,
1:41:44>> that's crazy.
1:41:45>> Yeah.
1:41:46>> Um my my question I have a question for
1:41:50you guys and um so obviously you guys
1:41:53have have this show which is great. Um,
1:41:55I think streaming is the best form of
1:41:58content because you can break it down
1:41:59into a long form YouTube video and then
1:42:02also into short form clips. How are you
1:42:04guys prioritizing like the marketing and
1:42:06trying to just mass push this out to as
1:42:09many people as possible?
1:42:10>> We're starting to have more
1:42:11conversations about that. Obviously, I
1:42:13know more than the average bear about
1:42:14like clipping and distributing content.
1:42:16That's like my my whole [ __ ] lane.
1:42:18That's I feel like where I'm actually
1:42:19pulling my weight in the show and kind
1:42:21of building up this IP. To tell you the
1:42:23truth, the first several episodes,
1:42:25obviously we're only on episode three.
1:42:26So, like I'm kind of rolling off the
1:42:28couch in the regards of like being on
1:42:29content actively, I feel like I'm a
1:42:31natural for it. Um, and again, I'm like
1:42:33I'm walking the walk. Like we preach
1:42:35make money, command attention, AI
1:42:37literacy. And like I haven't taken a a
1:42:40serious swing at making any sort of
1:42:42meaningful content or creating any sort
1:42:43of content IP or consistently doing
1:42:45anything in content for myself as banks
1:42:48in [ __ ] like seven years. And I'm
1:42:50doing it now, you know? And I'm doing
1:42:52it, you know, at a lower point in like
1:42:54my career in terms of general narrative
1:42:56and sentiment. And I'm doing it for like
1:42:58a niche, a very small niche audience,
1:43:00right? Like this show is definitely not
1:43:01for everybody. And the barrier to entry
1:43:03and the filter is going to be for every
1:43:05[ __ ] thousand people that click on
1:43:06this stream or or or tune into this
1:43:09show, I expect, you know, 10 to stick
1:43:10around maybe. Um, so just establishing
1:43:13that, like building rapport with Z. Z's
1:43:16never done content like this in his
1:43:17life, right? He's done a couple of
1:43:18streams, but like this type of format.
1:43:20I've been pilling this [ __ ] on
1:43:22doing content since I met him. I've been
1:43:24singing I've been singing from the
1:43:26rooftop like, "Yo, more of you guys need
1:43:28to make [ __ ] videos and thread guy,
1:43:30why the [ __ ] are you in Twitter spaces,
1:43:31bro? Get your ass on Twitch." And now
1:43:33he's on Twitch, right? Years later. And
1:43:34I was, you know, like it was looked at
1:43:37and perceived and I feel like I was
1:43:38misunderstood in a lot of areas. Like
1:43:40when when I did the Haley Welch podcast,
1:43:42really all I'm thinking is like somebody
1:43:44needs to [ __ ] you know, do do this.
1:43:47Like somebody needs to make make the
1:43:48content. Like I always have these
1:43:50visions of like passing it off to Thread
1:43:51or so and so or whatever. And that's why
1:43:53that was one of our earlier
1:43:54conversations, TJR, you were in our
1:43:56crib. I came out to the living room, you
1:43:58were there, and we sat and talked about
1:43:59this subject for forever. I think like I
1:44:03don't know. I just think there's a huge
1:44:05demand again for like playing the game
1:44:08in, you know, this meta like like 2026,
1:44:11what content looks like, what the
1:44:12overwhelming demand, you talked about
1:44:14it, you spoke about it right when you
1:44:15came on the show, like packaging it and
1:44:17presenting it in a palpable way to the
1:44:19average [ __ ] viewer and and like
1:44:21giving your I don't know. That's
1:44:22>> Yeah, I think I think I I would like to
1:44:25say I think you had like a slight
1:44:27limiting belief there where you said,
1:44:29you know, maybe this stream isn't for
1:44:30everybody. I think that this stream can
1:44:32be for everybody. Um,
1:44:34>> that's the goal. That's the goal is to
1:44:35appeal appeal to as many people as
1:44:37possible. Me to play the, you know, the
1:44:39layman and I can like I can hang in
1:44:41conversations about markets and trading
1:44:43and things like that, but Z will go on a
1:44:45[ __ ] fiveminute monologue on some
1:44:46[ __ ] big brain 200 IQ [ __ ] and I'll
1:44:49have to pause and be like, wait, what's
1:44:50inference? You know, and I feel like
1:44:52that's valuable to the average user,
1:44:54whereas like Z's typically Z's used to
1:44:57talking to [ __ ] people who know all
1:44:59this [ __ ] words on a screen, Twitter,
1:45:01you know what I mean? It's a it's a much
1:45:02different,
1:45:03>> you know, it's a to rather than [ __ ]
1:45:06>> Yeah.
1:45:07>> Yeah. My my driver I've like I've always
1:45:09been a solo operator to be honest. Like
1:45:11my entire life, high school, college, I
1:45:14was like the kid who was a nerd. Um I
1:45:16played sports growing up. I was like
1:45:18good at sports, but I wasn't really that
1:45:20active on like the social side until
1:45:22college and after college. Um so I was
1:45:24never trying of nature 66. I I hope you
1:45:27know that.
1:45:28>> Yeah. You know what's funny, bro? I was
1:45:29I was like 6 I was 62 160 senior year of
1:45:33high school and then I [ __ ]
1:45:35>> 6 feet
1:45:36>> shot up in in college, bro.
1:45:38>> Same. I was a late bloomer, too. That's
1:45:39crazy.
1:45:39>> Wow. So, we're all just enormous in this
1:45:42>> We're elite 656. 67.
1:45:44>> You said it on me. You said it on me.
1:45:46Wait, how tall are you, TR? We're the
1:45:48same height.
1:45:48>> Yeah. Yeah. Same height. Like 65.
1:45:50>> 6'5. Yeah. And Z's six. Have you guys
1:45:52never met?
1:45:53>> I don't.
1:45:54>> No, not in person. Not in person. Well,
1:45:55you guys got a link. That's crazy.
1:45:56>> Yeah, we do got a link. But yeah, my uh
1:45:59my thoughts around content is like I
1:46:00never really planned for my account to
1:46:02blow up. I was just sharing the
1:46:03information as I was researching, as I
1:46:05was trading. I got a lot of followers
1:46:07because people were tailing a lot of the
1:46:08trades I was talking about, like, yo,
1:46:09this dude knows what he's talking about.
1:46:10So, I got amplified in that way. And now
1:46:13once I have the platform, I'm like,
1:46:14okay, it makes sense to at least do
1:46:16something with it. I've always been
1:46:18super lazy on content, to be honest.
1:46:20Like, I tweet. It's easy to just shoot
1:46:21out tweets as I as it comes to me. Easy
1:46:23to just put out information or trades
1:46:24that I'm taking. Um, but it takes a lot
1:46:27more effort to do streaming, to like
1:46:29prepare for shows, to like write long
1:46:30form stuff. So, what I want to do like
1:46:33with the platform that I have is teach
1:46:35people one, how to be better traders,
1:46:38how to learn how to trade, and then two,
1:46:39like how to prepare themselves for
1:46:42what's coming in the future. Cuz I was
1:46:44lucky in that I caught crypto early in
1:46:462017. Um, I learned about in 2016 and
1:46:49started buying in 2017. I feel like AI
1:46:51is in a very similar spot to crypto in
1:46:542017 right now. Like, yeah, it just
1:46:56popped off in 2022, but the way that
1:46:59it's accelerating and how fast all the
1:47:01models and how much the models are
1:47:03getting faster and better and easier for
1:47:05people to use and actually like
1:47:07implement at their companies and in
1:47:08their professional lives, you want to be
1:47:10prepared for that. Um, and so like my
1:47:12whole thing with this show is like those
1:47:14those two areas to be like help people
1:47:15in that. So, so right now high school
1:47:18high school kid that just got out of
1:47:20high school and he says, "Man, [ __ ]
1:47:21college. I don't want to do this with my
1:47:23life and I just I just heard this from
1:47:25you." What is some something that that
1:47:27person can be doing actively right now
1:47:30to actually take advantage of this new
1:47:32wave of AI like how you did with crypto?
1:47:35>> Yeah, I would say that the first thing
1:47:37is to just get familiar with using AI
1:47:40every day. Um, I think that there are a
1:47:44ton of opportunities that are going to
1:47:46pop up for
1:47:48like businesses who haven't optimized
1:47:51their workflows. I think they're going
1:47:52to be able to use AI to make them a lot
1:47:55more efficient. But the thing is, a lot
1:47:57of these businesses are going to be uh
1:47:58run by like older people who aren't at
1:48:00the forefront of this technology. So, if
1:48:02you're a younger kid um who is getting
1:48:04used to using AI, um you're going to be
1:48:06you're essentially like the first people
1:48:08who were using the internet. Um so you
1:48:10want to think about it in that way. I
1:48:12think also with trading it's like even
1:48:14if you don't have a job that's directly
1:48:16benefiting from AI knowing um how to in
1:48:20learning how to invest your capital and
1:48:21learning how to invest your money. I
1:48:22think in the future trading is going to
1:48:24be one of the most popular professions
1:48:26actually like I think everybody is going
1:48:28to be some kind of a trader because AI
1:48:31is going to change what the workforce
1:48:33looks like so substantially. Um, and a
1:48:35lot of the ways for people to leaprog
1:48:37like wealth tiers is going to be
1:48:38investing in like the companies that do
1:48:41really well. Um,
1:48:42>> but Chris Camil was talking about
1:48:43democratizing trading, right?
1:48:44>> It's it's it's definitely going to be a
1:48:46thing. Um, yeah. I I don't know exactly
1:48:49what areas I would say to focus on
1:48:50business-wise. Um, I know you're on [ __ ]
1:48:53like you're on WO, right?
1:48:55>> Yeah. I I think [ __ ] is like honestly one
1:48:58of the like companies that's going to do
1:49:00really well over the next few years
1:49:01because what [ __ ] does um [ __ ] enables
1:49:04entrepreneurs to sell what their
1:49:06expertise is directly on their platform
1:49:08no matter what it is. So if you're
1:49:09expert in trading, if you're expert in
1:49:11cooking, if you're an expert in
1:49:12gardening, if you're an expert in
1:49:13whatever it is, they allow you to
1:49:15package your content and sell it to
1:49:17people um and engage with your community
1:49:20in that way. So I think we've talked
1:49:21about attention a lot. We've talked
1:49:22about AI a lot. Like if you have no
1:49:26other skills, if you are able to get
1:49:28good on social media garnering attention
1:49:30and then figure out something that you
1:49:32can become an expert in and use AI to
1:49:34help yourself become an expert in that,
1:49:36you can literally can combine those two
1:49:38things to build your own business,
1:49:39whatever it is.
1:49:40>> I agree with everything that you just
1:49:41said. I'll even take it a step further
1:49:43and just kind of kind of um tail that
1:49:45and say if you're truly starting at zero
1:49:49clean foundation and you're not good at
1:49:50anything or you have no skills, just
1:49:53focus on something you're obsessed with
1:49:54or just genuinely interested in because
1:49:56again like Z said, this is the internet
1:49:58happening all over again. So the odds
1:50:00are there is an opportunity for you to
1:50:02pair
1:50:03>> an interest that you have. First of all,
1:50:04you're going to just retain information
1:50:06about this, learn it at a quicker rate,
1:50:07and just naturally get better at
1:50:09something you're overly obsessed with,
1:50:11obviously, right? You pair that with AI
1:50:13and you're spending six hours a day
1:50:15understanding and learning how to use AI
1:50:16and how to apply that to existing, you
1:50:18know, business um and markets. Like,
1:50:21that's that's where I would be if I was
1:50:23graduating high school. Definitely
1:50:24wouldn't be going to college. I think
1:50:25that's the first, you know, big brain
1:50:27step out. I think the most dangerous
1:50:29piece though where a lot of like young
1:50:30people I think are getting stuck in like
1:50:32the glue trap is the attention piece
1:50:34because this is what's like this is
1:50:37what's keeping the youth connected today
1:50:40is Twitter and clips and that culture
1:50:42like internet culture and a lot of it is
1:50:43[ __ ] absolute garbage. Like it's
1:50:45absolute trash and it's designed to just
1:50:48keep you on it's designed to keep you
1:50:49away from each other. And it's it's
1:50:51designed to keep you on your [ __ ]
1:50:53phone doom scrolling and and consuming
1:50:55[ __ ] fast food brain rot shitty
1:50:57content. I think being intentional with
1:50:59what you're watching is really important
1:51:01and being mindful of that and holding
1:51:03yourself accountable and just being
1:51:04healthy, you know, mentally healthy. Um
1:51:07and being aware. I like the uh we talked
1:51:09a little bit about like searching versus
1:51:11scrolling.
1:51:12>> Yeah.
1:51:13>> Be a searcher. Don't be a scroller. You
1:51:15know, if you find yourself kind of
1:51:16mindlessly scrolling [ __ ] and you're w
1:51:17and you get to the area of the internet
1:51:19where you're watching [ __ ] you know,
1:51:20strawberries gang banging a banana, it's
1:51:22like, all right, maybe close the app,
1:51:24take a deep breath.
1:51:25>> So, you saw that same video. You saw
1:51:27that same [ __ ] bro. Cuz I seen that
1:51:29one. I seen it.
1:51:32>> Go for a walk. But yeah, essentially
1:51:33what we're saying essentially what we're
1:51:34saying is is again what the entire show
1:51:36is about, and that's money, attention,
1:51:38and AI. Um, obviously the through line
1:51:41and the foundation, the most important
1:51:42thing above all else is just your
1:51:44health. I think being dialed physically
1:51:46healthy. We have more resources today to
1:51:49keep yourself dialed [ __ ] you know,
1:51:51peptides and GLP1s and all this [ __ ]
1:51:54crazy information. And, you know, it's
1:51:56it's easier to eat healthy and be
1:51:57healthy healthier than ever, keeping
1:51:59your mind right. Um, ultimately, invest
1:52:02in yourself. It's the tagline of the
1:52:04whole show. It's the whole [ __ ] idea.
1:52:05It's the whole point of the show. Invest
1:52:07in yourself. I think there's a lot of
1:52:08noise happening. I don't know. I've kind
1:52:10of always run my own life in in a manner
1:52:13where I just feel like the average
1:52:14person is broke, [ __ ] and unhappy.
1:52:20So, if you just like I know I'm
1:52:22oversimplifying it, but if you just do
1:52:24the opposite of what most people are
1:52:25doing, again, most people broke,
1:52:28[ __ ] unhappy. So, you do the
1:52:30opposite and you wind up rich,
1:52:33looking at least maybe smart and happy.
1:52:37you know, like I don't know. Um, it's
1:52:40kind of the gist. I know I'm
1:52:41oversimplifying it. That's [ __ ] left
1:52:42curve [ __ ] statement, whatever. But
1:52:46>> no, I think that's true. I think a lot
1:52:47of people if their life sucks right now,
1:52:49you know, it's very like the the
1:52:52solution to every question is just by
1:52:54flipping the qu question upside down,
1:52:56you know, just do a complete 180. If
1:52:57your life sucks right now, do the
1:52:58opposite of what you're doing right now.
1:53:00And odds are you'll probably end up
1:53:02enjoying what you're doing a lot more
1:53:03and you'll probably find some success.
1:53:05>> Amen, brother. And again, for what it's
1:53:07worth, I think that while it's scary
1:53:09times and it's a very scary spot to be
1:53:12in, you know, young person, you don't
1:53:15really have access to anything, your
1:53:17parents aren't rich. Um, it is a little
1:53:20bit of a scary spot, but at the same
1:53:21time, in the same breath, I'll say I
1:53:23don't think there's ever been a time in
1:53:24human history where it's a better time
1:53:25to have nothing to do or to have a clean
1:53:28slate or to just be starting your life.
1:53:30Like,
1:53:30>> most opportunity for sure,
1:53:31>> bro. You're 18 years old. You're 17, 18
1:53:33years old right now. you are the
1:53:34luckiest person that's ever existed on
1:53:36earth. And that's just the truth.
1:53:38>> Yeah, for sure.
1:53:39>> In human history. I agree.
1:53:41>> Cuz what the internet did to to society
1:53:43and culture and business, how it
1:53:44affected every single market. It'd be
1:53:46such a silly thing today to say, "I
1:53:48don't use the internet or I'm opting
1:53:50out. Like my business doesn't use it."
1:53:51It's like such a [ __ ] thing to say.
1:53:52It's like and before that it was
1:53:54electricity. I don't use electricity.
1:53:55It's like okay pal. Like we'll see you
1:53:56in [ __ ] we'll see you in a few years.
1:53:59It's like the same thing now with AI.
1:54:00But I think I think it's going to, you
1:54:02know,
1:54:04unfathomable the way it's going to
1:54:06change everything, you know,
1:54:09>> internet.
1:54:09>> I I have a little conspiracy theory and
1:54:12I want to I want to hear your guys'
1:54:13takes on this. So, I have a theory that
1:54:17when we created AI, we essentially
1:54:20created a new species and that species
1:54:24is far more intelligent. And I think
1:54:27eventually once we give cuz right now
1:54:30it's just in a computer. Once we give
1:54:33this new species limbs and the ability
1:54:36to be able to run all of these
1:54:38businesses like we're like we're trying
1:54:40to do um it's going to quickly realize
1:54:43how useless humans are.
1:54:45>> Have you ever seen this YouTube channel?
1:54:48>> Uh let me sorry I'm on the
1:54:51>> Z. Have you have you seen this? I know
1:54:52I've referenced it a couple times.
1:54:53>> No I haven't. It's it's literally called
1:54:55species AI news documenting AGI and it
1:54:58has like a show goth as like the the
1:55:00picture and this guy does really like
1:55:02deep articulate like videos on like
1:55:06it begins AI literally attempted murder
1:55:08realistic scenarios for AI takeover AI
1:55:112027. This one's my favorite. Highly
1:55:13suggest this video. MIT explains 12
1:55:15possible endings for AI. And it's
1:55:17essentially
1:55:18>> Hey everybody,
1:55:18>> I did not mean to click that. It's
1:55:20essentially um what you're saying
1:55:21though. Yeah, we did. We we have created
1:55:23a brand new species and it's um
1:55:27>> and it's it's definitely going to
1:55:28supersede us across the board. Again, I
1:55:30think on an unfathomable level again
1:55:33long-term optimistic like I think that
1:55:35AI over the course of enough time makes
1:55:37everything free, cures cancer, you know,
1:55:40extends human life expectancy to [ __ ]
1:55:43500 years plus, maybe forever. Um the
1:55:47the scary thing is though is like what
1:55:50happens when AI
1:55:52has its own interests, its own biases,
1:55:54and sets its own goals. That's the
1:55:56biggest thing. Like that is the scariest
1:55:58piece because tricky
1:56:00>> we share a planet with a lot of [ __ ]
1:56:02different animals and different species,
1:56:03right? We're the number one when if
1:56:04you're looking at the the the Earth's
1:56:06pyramid, humans are obviously at the
1:56:08top. And none of us have most of us 99%
1:56:11of people don't have a leaning sparking
1:56:13interest in killing squirrels. But if we
1:56:16want to build a [ __ ] city in the
1:56:17forest, nothing's going to stop us from
1:56:19doing that. That is our goal. And
1:56:21unfortunately, you know, a couple
1:56:23squirrels are going to die in the
1:56:24process. And it's that simple. We don't
1:56:26really think much about that, right?
1:56:28>> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of scary. That's
1:56:30like if you think out like hundred years
1:56:31or whatever. I I think that is kind of
1:56:34kind of what you can't even prepare for
1:56:36to be honest. It's unfathomable.
1:56:38>> I hope I'm in the ground by the time
1:56:39that goes.
1:56:40>> This is going to happen. We're in the
1:56:42cloud. [ __ ] the ground. I want to be in
1:56:44the cloud. This is why you say Elon.
1:56:46Elon, hit me live on stream.
1:56:48>> This is why you say thank you to every
1:56:50every uh every time you use chat, you
1:56:51say thank you at the end.
1:56:53>> Sam Alman, I keep begging people to
1:56:54stop. It's costing them millions and
1:56:56millions of dollars. Every time you say
1:56:57I do, too, though. I say thank you,
1:56:59please.
1:57:00>> I think one one area we haven't
1:57:02>> I do not say that. Sorry. I do not say
1:57:05that. I'm the first one to go out of out
1:57:06of us three. Oh, tell you. I think one
1:57:09area we we haven't really talked about
1:57:11like that we is probably under discussed
1:57:13actually like the bluecollar jobs like
1:57:16electrician, plumbers, all of that I
1:57:18think are actually going to be super
1:57:19important and more important like over
1:57:21the next few years like people kind of
1:57:23be have a negative I think perception of
1:57:25some of these like blueco collar jobs
1:57:27but actually going to be super um super
1:57:29important and are also going to be a lot
1:57:31harder to replace than a lot of the like
1:57:33white collar software stuff. So that's
1:57:35really um an interesting area also I
1:57:37think.
1:57:37>> Yeah. Those are the first to go
1:57:38obviously, right? The accountants, the
1:57:39[ __ ] lawyers, like anything that
1:57:41requires using your brain because just
1:57:42the truth is is Claude is smarter than
1:57:44you. Like it's that simple
1:57:46>> already. Bluear bull run.
1:57:48>> Blue collar bun.
1:57:48>> Bluear bull.
1:57:49>> What is that? What is that? Uh what's
1:57:51the degree for your like damn there's
1:57:53the word for vocational? Is vocational
1:57:56the word? I think like vocational. That
1:57:58is the word, right? I'm tripping.
1:58:00>> No,
1:58:01>> you're talking to an idiot, bro. I'm I
1:58:05>> Dude, I can't wait to have S off screen.
1:58:07S off screen. Next episode's going to be
1:58:09great. What was my word? What was my
1:58:11word today?
1:58:11>> He said anecdote.
1:58:13>> Yeah. Anecdote. Anecdote. Jesus Christ.
1:58:16Um TJR, let's give you like a minute to
1:58:18talk about whatever you want to talk
1:58:19about. Plug whatever you want to plug.
1:58:20I'm going to take my literal 35th piss
1:58:22of the episode and then we'll we'll
1:58:24bring on Tristan Thompson.
1:58:25>> Nice. I'm the same way. I peed literally
1:58:28like 20 times when I'm streaming in the
1:58:31morning. I have nothing to plug, bro.
1:58:32Oh, go. Well, no. This is a great
1:58:34opportunity. Yes. Um I we're doing uh me
1:58:38and my business partner, we have a
1:58:40clothing brand and we're doing a drop.
1:58:42Um we actually haven't announced when
1:58:44the drop is, but we're announcing it in
1:58:46like two days, but it's going to happen
1:58:48this month, very very soon. Um and a lot
1:58:51of people on uh Twitter and within the
1:58:53space already wear it, and we sell out
1:58:55literally every single time within the
1:58:57span of like under an hour. So, if you
1:59:00guys want to get your hands on that, um,
1:59:02the brand's name is Kiltech. So, there
1:59:04you go.
1:59:06>> Can I get a Can I get a free shirt, bro?
1:59:07A Killiltech shirt?
1:59:08>> Yeah, bro. Yeah, I'll send you um I'll
1:59:10I'll send you all the the lookbook for
1:59:12this capsule and then whatever. I'll
1:59:14send you everything.
1:59:15>> Fire, fire, fire, fire. Yeah, I need
1:59:17some I need some new merch. Need some
1:59:19gear.
1:59:20>> So, what do you do in New York?
1:59:22>> Like, what's your typical dayto-day?
1:59:25>> What's my typical dayto day? Well, like
1:59:27I'm like, "Yo, I I also have kids, so
1:59:29like my day is like slightly different."
1:59:33That's also part of the reason why I'm
1:59:34not I'm not leaving New York. But um I
1:59:36mean there's there's infinite things to
1:59:37do here, man. I mean uh I think a lot of
1:59:40there's a lot of the crypto community is
1:59:41here. Like a lot of people have moved
1:59:43here. Like a lot of people are downtown.
1:59:45A lot of people are in um downtown BK as
1:59:47well. But a lot of my time is at my
1:59:49desk. Like I'm I'm trading, working um
1:59:52and then whenever I want to go out in
1:59:53the city, I spend time doing that. [ __ ]
1:59:56Yeah.
1:59:57>> Okay. Word. So, you you you pretty much
1:59:59you chill you chill at home for the most
2:00:01part.
2:00:01>> I be chilling most of the time, bro.
2:00:04>> Be chilling.
2:00:06>> TJR, I expect to have you on many more
2:00:08times. Love talking to you.
2:00:10>> Hell yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate it,
2:00:11boys.
2:00:12>> I want to end on this note. We we we've
2:00:14talked about like I I think what's next
2:00:16for content, finance,
2:00:18this type of this type of content and
2:00:20style of content, category of content. I
2:00:23think um just like I don't know again
2:00:27thinking in line of thinking in terms of
2:00:29like how can we be as entertaining as
2:00:30possible how can we be as engaging as
2:00:33possible and I don't think anybody
2:00:34solved like live investing yet but like
2:00:37think Shark Tank style or like we talked
2:00:40about the fund thing like like we didn't
2:00:42get get a chance to talk about this on
2:00:43this show but like hey how can we align
2:00:45interest and like make investments
2:00:47together and be a little bit more like
2:00:48transparent about that or like take that
2:00:51approach and kind of allow people to
2:00:53follow that um and create content around
2:00:55that and have you know a [ __ ] RA
2:00:57round [ __ ]
2:01:00>> round.
2:01:01>> Whatever. Whatever the [ __ ] I'm talking
2:01:02about. I don't know. Yeah. Um really
2:01:04happy to have you on. Is Tristan ready
2:01:06to go?
2:01:06>> Yeah.
2:01:07>> TJR, you're the [ __ ] goat. We
2:01:09appreciate you.
2:01:10>> I love you, brother. Thank you. Come
2:01:11back.
2:01:11>> Appreciate it, boys. Thank you for
2:01:12having me.
2:01:13>> Thanks for the little money glitch.
2:01:15>> Of course. Yeah. Yo, slam that [ __ ] I'm
2:01:17slamming that [ __ ] right now.
2:01:19>> Traded on Poly Market. All right. Cool.
2:01:22Peace.
2:01:23I love him.
2:01:24>> Great guy.
2:01:25>> He's also tall. He's also tall and
2:01:27handsome like two other people I know.
2:01:29>> 6'5 crew, 65 and up.
2:01:31>> Could you imagine me, you, and him walk
2:01:33into a [ __ ] meeting and it's like we
2:01:34want to we want to invest $10 million
2:01:37like get the [ __ ] out of here. Like go
2:01:40who? They literally be like, no, go.
2:01:42>> That's really funny. That's really
2:01:43funny.
2:01:47>> Cool.
2:01:50Rada.
2:01:51>> Speaking of tall, handsome
2:01:52[ __ ] What's good, baby?
2:01:54>> Yo,
2:01:55>> the third handsome [ __ ] and one
2:01:56of the biggest
2:01:59up.
2:02:00>> What's good, brother? How you been? How
2:02:01you been? You good?
2:02:03>> Good, fam. I'm here. I'm here. I'm the
2:02:04six right now. I'm back at the crib,
2:02:05man. I, you know, flew in on a red eye.
2:02:07So,
2:02:08>> Oh [ __ ]
2:02:09>> Are you excited for the album?
2:02:11>> Of course. Of course. Gotta come up here
2:02:12and support, bro.
2:02:13>> Is this the city on fire?
2:02:15>> Of course. The city needs us right now.
2:02:16You know, Toronto, it's always cold and
2:02:19it's gloomy today. I feel like I'm back
2:02:20in Cleveland. I'm like, bro, where's the
2:02:22sun at in on May? What's it today?
2:02:24Midmay.
2:02:24>> Yeah.
2:02:26>> Yeah.
2:02:27>> I'm excited, man. I think [ __ ] I feel
2:02:28like Drizz is about to go on a
2:02:30welldeserved run and it's going to be
2:02:32exciting to see and exciting to watch.
2:02:34I'm [ __ ] stoked.
2:02:35>> Yeah. I feel like he's got to come hard,
2:02:37right? Like he he kind of had to come.
2:02:39>> But by the way, by the way, by the way,
2:02:40but by the way, he always does. And that
2:02:42was part of the pro that was part of the
2:02:43problem between him and [ __ ] homeboy
2:02:45back and forth. It's like we put we the
2:02:48standard for a Drake song or a Drake
2:02:50anything is absolute max. You know what
2:02:52I'm saying? It's like it's like the same
2:02:54[ __ ] with LeBron in the NBA, right? Or
2:02:55Luca. It's like these [ __ ] are
2:02:57expected to perform a certain way and if
2:02:59they don't if they even come close to
2:03:01average, then it's a it's it's a huge
2:03:03fumble. It's it's it's a failure.
2:03:05>> And I think um
2:03:07>> he's obviously been locked in. I don't
2:03:08know. I'm excited. It's dropping
2:03:10tonight, right? Like midnight.
2:03:11>> Yeah, tonight. Tonight at 12, right? I
2:03:13mean, listen, boys wants to own the
2:03:14summer. Summer's around the corner and
2:03:17from what I've heard, I mean,
2:03:19>> you sound just like Drake and his boys.
2:03:23It's so It's so funny.
2:03:24>> The six, bro. The sick so funny.
2:03:27>> Got to support the city whenever
2:03:28whenever you know our brothers is
2:03:30dropping dropping fire and heat. So,
2:03:32>> of course.
2:03:33>> Yeah. What you guys been up to, man? I
2:03:35see you guys here cooking and and
2:03:36congrats on your guys, you know, your
2:03:39your p your show. I love it. I know
2:03:42tuning in. So, congrats to you guys.
2:03:45This these backgrounds are fire
2:03:48the sets. You want to see the whole
2:03:50thing design?
2:03:51>> Whoa. What the [ __ ] Oh, the mug, too.
2:03:55What?
2:03:56>> Buy it at markbubble.com. I'm just
2:03:57kidding. You can't buy this.
2:04:00>> That's hard.
2:04:01>> You know, you know what's funny, bro? We
2:04:02actually, me and Banks, we always talk
2:04:03about how uh Banks like he's really
2:04:06shielded me hard on like doing content.
2:04:08This show is like obviously the official
2:04:10like move into that. But when when me
2:04:13and you met, I actually was doing
2:04:15content. We met in in Singapore. What
2:04:17was year was it 2023? Was it 204? 204.
2:04:20204.
2:04:22>> 24. And we met in Singapore. Um, and
2:04:25like I was out there for the conference.
2:04:26I was super surprised to see you out
2:04:28there for the conference. I was like,
2:04:29"Oh, wait. What are you What is this
2:04:30dude doing here, too?" But then that's
2:04:32that's when we first linked. It's kind
2:04:33of funny on on the content side of
2:04:35things, but um I know you do a ton of
2:04:37stuff, too, like you obviously NBA
2:04:38player. um done great in in that field
2:04:41and done well, but you also do a ton of
2:04:43other things also. So like you're an
2:04:45investor, builder. How do you think
2:04:48about being not just an NBA player, but
2:04:51also being like a businessman? Um and
2:04:53how you how you think about that cuz
2:04:55like you you you wear multiple hats.
2:04:58>> Yeah. No, I think it's uh I think using
2:05:01the NBA, you know, that's a leverage,
2:05:02right? I think that's like your launch
2:05:03pad on like what gets you in these rooms
2:05:05and what starts this kind of halo and
2:05:07cache, but I think it just can't be all
2:05:09that you do. Um the reality is that you
2:05:12know NBA players are making more money
2:05:13than they ever made in all of sports.
2:05:15And I think back in the day, you know,
2:05:17the reality is that they didn't have the
2:05:19capital like what we have now to to be
2:05:21as actively investing or or to be trying
2:05:24new things, right? And I think for
2:05:25myself and others that you've been
2:05:27seeing, it's like what else is after
2:05:29basketball? I think LeBron is the only
2:05:30guy that can kick Father Time in his ass
2:05:32and outwork him. The rest of us guys
2:05:35have to figure this.
2:05:36>> What's he doing, bro? What's he doing?
2:05:37Keep it above. We know. You know what?
2:05:39Peptides peptides. That [ __ ] is
2:05:42eating babies. We know you know,
2:05:44>> man. Whatever peptide, whatever he's on,
2:05:46if he's whatever he's on, I needed some
2:05:48and I feel like he he held out on me.
2:05:49But it's all it's all good and love, you
2:05:51know.
2:05:52>> They keep maxing, bro. That's 2026.
2:05:55[ __ ] everybody.
2:05:56>> Yeah. Yeah. No, but it's um shoot. I
2:05:58mean, it's it's great. I mean, the fact,
2:06:00you know, um Oh, I gotta call Oh, you
2:06:02gota call you by your your Z. I got to
2:06:04call you by your your your
2:06:05>> No, you call me Z, bro. It's cool.
2:06:10But no, us meeting in crypto, that's
2:06:12kind of how that was kind of like the
2:06:14second iteration, you know, for a long
2:06:15time. What I was doing probably back
2:06:17from like 2023, probably post pandemic
2:06:21was just honestly just like investing in
2:06:23a lot like SPVS and like whether it was
2:06:25anthropic at at a low valuation or just
2:06:28SpaceX under 300 billion dollars. But
2:06:30that was just honestly just because like
2:06:32playing against the Golden State
2:06:33Warriors and being in SF for like what
2:06:36four finals in a row meeting people and
2:06:37saying hey like
2:06:38>> I have a you know I want a little
2:06:40exposure. I'm used to just you know
2:06:42investing in straight like consumable
2:06:43brands and like fam family brands of
2:06:46obviously you guys know the family we
2:06:47got you know you got the scans you got a
2:06:49good American you know Kylie Cosmetic
2:06:51818 Lumi all that stuff but I wanted to
2:06:53something different and and the way I
2:06:55look at investing is it's about where
2:06:56the world is going and not where the
2:06:58world's at. And now uh being more in the
2:07:01space and adding the crypto layer to it
2:07:04uh I was like you know I look at Magic
2:07:05and Shaq guys that kind of like were at
2:07:07the forefront of blueprint and you know
2:07:09Stack and Magic they're you know in
2:07:11their 50s and 60s and I was like yo
2:07:13who's going to take the bull by his horn
2:07:14and be like that new young money athlete
2:07:18that's like I actually
2:07:20>> you know
2:07:20>> I actually just invested in this
2:07:22consumer like tech random tech product a
2:07:24couple years ago and we always joke
2:07:25about how Shaq owns everything and how
2:07:27he has everything and He actually just
2:07:30him and one of his sons actually just
2:07:31wrote a check. I just got an update on
2:07:32on the email, whatever. Just wrote a
2:07:34check for this like tech brand I'm in.
2:07:36So, we're on the same cap table
2:07:37somewhere. That [ __ ] really owns
2:07:38everything. He's the goat.
2:07:39>> No, he's figured it out, right? I mean,
2:07:41>> he's the tallest. He's the tallest. I
2:07:42think there's a direct correlation, by
2:07:44the way.
2:07:44>> Yeah.
2:07:48>> Shaq might be bigger now for all these
2:07:50like insurance commercials and Icy Hot
2:07:52than like
2:07:53>> by the way. For sure. For he's just
2:07:55cemented as like like this. He's I think
2:07:58he's he's got to be one of the most
2:07:59famous guys to ever live. Like he has to
2:08:01be, right?
2:08:02>> I wonder if you ask Claude who the most
2:08:04famous athletes of all time are. Shaq's
2:08:06got to be top five. He's got to be top
2:08:07five.
2:08:08>> Yeah. I I saw something on Twitter the
2:08:10other day where uh they were talking
2:08:11about how like most people don't even
2:08:14know Shaq as a [ __ ] like NBA player.
2:08:16Like people who know Shaq just know him
2:08:19as like Shaq. Like we not we obviously
2:08:22watch basketball like know all the
2:08:23players but like a lot of women don't
2:08:25watch basketball as much or like just
2:08:27like your average person doesn't as much
2:08:29and like they know him as something
2:08:31completely out of like different from
2:08:32that which I thought was like really
2:08:34really interesting. Um
2:08:35>> it's like the rock.
2:08:36>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the rock.
2:08:38Yeah.
2:08:39>> The rock.
2:08:40>> Yeah. But I think the the way you think
2:08:42about investing in like and constantly
2:08:44growing your wealth is super important
2:08:46cuz it's a discussion that we don't have
2:08:49a lot I think. And it's like really
2:08:51important discussion to have like you
2:08:52always see the stories of people or like
2:08:54athletes or celebrities who make a lot
2:08:56of money then they blow all of it. Um so
2:08:58I think it's it's really great to see
2:09:00you like being focused in that area. Um
2:09:02and and great to like popularize like
2:09:05the the notion of investing and thinking
2:09:07in that way. Um what are some like the
2:09:09the favorite investments that you've
2:09:11made like some of your most interesting
2:09:13stuff that you like a lot? I know you
2:09:14said you hit SpaceX and Anthropic by the
2:09:16way. You can catch that. You hit both of
2:09:18them. That's that's crazy. Wait, how
2:09:19explain explain anthropic please. How
2:09:22did you invest in anthropic? And
2:09:24>> just to be honest, it was uh buddy of
2:09:26mine in Silicon Valley just honestly,
2:09:27kid you not being uh playing against the
2:09:30Warriors and going to a couple of these
2:09:32dinners that they were doing just with
2:09:33the NBA and sitting there and just
2:09:35talking to these guys and really picking
2:09:37their brain and they're telling me about
2:09:39like, you know, the future of AI and and
2:09:41and even the SpaceX. That was more of a
2:09:43sort of the direct correlation, but
2:09:46>> saying this is where the future's going
2:09:47with AI and and technology. And I was
2:09:49like,
2:09:50>> hey man, I like what you're what you're
2:09:52talking about. You sound like you're
2:09:53cool. Sound like transparent. And it was
2:09:55just a bunch of like SF SF guys like,
2:09:59"Yo, do they're like everyone just kept
2:10:01telling them like, all right, man.
2:10:02Here's a check. I like I want in. I want
2:10:05I want to get in the game." And then
2:10:06from there, they just opened up so much
2:10:08so much for me. But the cool thing was
2:10:10like I was able to like get in and like
2:10:12SPV early and like bring in all my other
2:10:14buddies and make a bigger check and then
2:10:16that that was
2:10:17>> epic. We were we were talking about full
2:10:19porting our entire lives in Anthropic in
2:10:21December. Me and Z were trying to figure
2:10:22out how to do that.
2:10:23>> Yeah, we fumbled about.
2:10:24>> Yeah, we weren't at We We obviously
2:10:26weren't at that the same dinner you were
2:10:28at. Maybe maybe next time book the
2:10:30dinner at [ __ ] like Birds in LA. I'll
2:10:31pull up maybe. I
2:10:33>> know. First of all, you love birds by
2:10:35the way. I've seen you there a couple
2:10:36times. That's like one of your goals.
2:10:37>> You already know. We we've we've ran
2:10:40into each other a couple times and and
2:10:41been in the same room same time a couple
2:10:43times. Um do you remember any of those
2:10:46instances? Like where were we? What were
2:10:47we were doing?
2:10:48>> I can I can name a couple. I remember
2:10:50Birds uh Abel's concert. But honestly,
2:10:53you you you're cooking. You you had a
2:10:55lot going on. So I was just not trying
2:10:57what was going on. What was going on?
2:10:58>> It was your view from your people and
2:11:00you could be as honest and transparent
2:11:01as you want to be.
2:11:03>> You had your Chrome Hearts jeans on. You
2:11:06know, you had your Chrome Hearts jeans
2:11:07with your black tea on. here.
2:11:10>> You already know, baby.
2:11:11>> Oh, yeah.
2:11:11>> Yeah.
2:11:12>> You stay. Listen, I will say you've been
2:11:14loyal to the brand from from day one,
2:11:16for sure.
2:11:16>> Family. They're family, bro. It's
2:11:18different. It's different. I'm not buy
2:11:19I'm not buying this [ __ ] off 4G. We're
2:11:21not buying this [ __ ] off eBay, bro.
2:11:22We're getting it. [ __ ] we're go we're
2:11:23going down to the factory and picking
2:11:24this [ __ ] up. People don't even know
2:11:26this, but my little brother actually for
2:11:27a while worked at the factory. He worked
2:11:28at Chrome. Like my actual blood brother.
2:11:30Yeah. Building like furniture and [ __ ]
2:11:32in LA. So, it's fam.
2:11:35>> Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I'm not trying
2:11:36to get luxury tax and pay the I'm not
2:11:37I'm not not paying the luxury tax. No,
2:11:39I'm cool. It's not direct from the from
2:11:41the plug. No thank.
2:11:42>> That's why it's so [ __ ] cool. It's a
2:11:43family-owned brand and they don't give a
2:11:45[ __ ] about what's going on. It's friends
2:11:47and family like you said family
2:11:49businesses. Like this is where it
2:11:50starts. Like that's the best feeling
2:11:51ever, you know? Like just
2:11:53>> are they are they in LA? Chrome.
2:11:55>> Yeah, it's based every single piece of
2:11:57chrome on planet Earth is made in LA in
2:11:59the factory.
2:12:00>> Oh wow.
2:12:01>> Yeah. But they they're they're based
2:12:02heavily also they they split time in
2:12:04like New York and also they have like a
2:12:06real [ __ ] HQ base in St. Barts. I did
2:12:09St. Barts for New Year's and that was
2:12:10[ __ ] just such a cool experience
2:12:12because everybody Have you ever been to
2:12:13Barts for New Year's?
2:12:15>> Yeah, but they also have the merch gear,
2:12:16too. Did you get the hoodie?
2:12:17>> Yeah. No, I didn't get the hoodie. I
2:12:19didn't get any of the OVO [ __ ] but I
2:12:20bought this bag. This bag, there's only
2:12:22two of them. Me and Christian are the
2:12:25only two people have who have it.
2:12:26>> And like they know exactly what the [ __ ]
2:12:28to say to me. Page is like, "Hey man, do
2:12:30you want to buy it?" I'm like, "Well,
2:12:32what's the [ __ ] what's the story?
2:12:33Like, how many are He's like, "Well,
2:12:35there's only two." I go, "Well, who owns
2:12:36the other one?" He's like, "Me." I'm
2:12:38like, "Yeah, man. I'll [ __ ] take the
2:12:40bag."
2:12:42>> What am I supposed to do, bro? Like 20%
2:12:44of my net worth is in [ __ ] Chrome. It
2:12:46actually is. And honestly, honestly,
2:12:48it's been the best thing that I've
2:12:49invested in, no [ __ ] in the last
2:12:51two years.
2:12:52>> Damn.
2:12:53>> I'm up [ __ ] I'm up 500%.
2:12:55>> Damn.
2:12:55>> Yo, listen. Chrome. Chrome has become
2:12:56almost like how Hermes and Birkens have
2:12:58been in terms of investments, right?
2:12:59Like that. Look, if you look at the ROIs
2:13:01on those, it's very similar.
2:13:03>> Very similar.
2:13:03>> Again, again, name anything that's
2:13:05outperformed Chrome in the last [ __ ]
2:13:06four years. Seriously. Retail. Like you
2:13:08really you really can't. Especially like
2:13:10the custom made like leather, anything
2:13:12with hardware on it. Yeah. So, wearing
2:13:14chrome birds. Anything else? Probably ZB
2:13:17to my right.
2:13:19>> Yeah. Concert.
2:13:20>> Yeah.
2:13:21>> You know, concert.
2:13:22>> Next time you're in LA, you got to let
2:13:24me know.
2:13:25>> Yeah. Yeah, I live in LA, so um
2:13:27>> Yeah, whenever you're back.
2:13:28>> Yeah. Honestly, I'm not gonna lie, uh I
2:13:31love the one thing I love about holidays
2:13:33is that Kim always gets gets us fire
2:13:36chrome gear, so I can't wait for my
2:13:37birthday.
2:13:39>> Must be nice.
2:13:40>> Must be nice.
2:13:40>> Yeah, bro. Trist, you've spent a lot of
2:13:42time in Hollywood, I guess, outside like
2:13:44the NBA. You've done reality TV, too,
2:13:46right?
2:13:47>> Yeah. Yeah. So, you know a lot about
2:13:49attention. We talk about attention um
2:13:51every episode, essentially, every show.
2:13:53Um, how do you think like attention
2:13:55you've been able to leverage that in
2:13:57your life for positive things? I know
2:13:58you talked a little bit about being in
2:14:00rooms when you're in SF. Like what are
2:14:02some other ways you've kind of leveraged
2:14:03attention as as an asset outside of your
2:14:05like professional career?
2:14:07>> Yeah, I mean I think uh being able I
2:14:10think this is the beauty where I sit at
2:14:11right now. It's kind of said the
2:14:12intersection of so many different things
2:14:13whether it's culture, sports, reality,
2:14:16celebrity and you see even royalty when
2:14:17I spend a lot of time in the Middle East
2:14:19right now. But I think it's it's it's
2:14:20it's how you're able to leverage that,
2:14:22right? how you're able to connect the
2:14:23dots because I think and I know it's
2:14:25cliche and every every says this you
2:14:27know your your network is your net worth
2:14:29but it's actually true
2:14:32>> but it's like a you know it's a true
2:14:33statement because it's like
2:14:34>> it's like you can I can literally pick
2:14:36up the phone and if like for instance
2:14:38there's a company right now that I'm
2:14:40that I'm working with and they are
2:14:42trying to raise capital and they want a
2:14:44specific target market of of a partner
2:14:46to come in and and take a certain amount
2:14:48of the equity right
2:14:49>> and the person they're looking for is
2:14:51someone that I can think in my
2:14:52wheelhouse I can that can be the perfect
2:14:55match. So you get the call and you make
2:14:56the call and you try to merge people
2:14:58together. And I think for me it's about
2:15:00being that ultimate plug, right? And and
2:15:02you see the great, you know, investors
2:15:05or founders, they're the ones that can
2:15:06connect the dots with with any walk of
2:15:08life. I mean, you see what's going on
2:15:10right now with, you know, the the trip
2:15:12that Air Force One took, all those
2:15:14people on the on the on the plane. I'm
2:15:15like, it's a lot of lot of, you know, a
2:15:18lot of money on one plane.
2:15:20super risky thing by the way. What the
2:15:22[ __ ] I'm not
2:15:24>> one.
2:15:25>> Oh, so so you see like President Trump
2:15:27has like Jensen Wong, Elon Musk, Tim.
2:15:30>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
2:15:32>> CEO, General Electric. I I'm like a
2:15:35little too much net worth on one plane
2:15:36for me. I was like,
2:15:38that plane can't go down, bro. That's
2:15:40that plane is too important.
2:15:42>> About 20 trillion dollars on one plane.
2:15:45The [ __ ]
2:15:46>> It's insane.
2:15:48>> I'm sure I'm sure to a degree.
2:15:49Obviously, we know how narratives
2:15:50[ __ ] get spun on Twitter and [ __ ]
2:15:52Engaging like what's the best [ __ ]
2:15:54you know, clickbait thing. I'm sure they
2:15:56took a couple separate flights. They had
2:15:57to, right? All those [ __ ] on
2:15:59one flight is crazy.
2:16:01>> And why did nobody film that? That's
2:16:03insane. True.
2:16:04>> Yeah. Who's real? Like, who's getting
2:16:05the live, right? Whoever posted on like
2:16:08TikTok,
2:16:09>> it's insane.
2:16:10>> Yeah. Yeah.
2:16:11>> But no, just leverage it, bro. like just
2:16:13trying to for me it's about helping
2:16:15people make money, tie people together
2:16:17and do something that to be honest when
2:16:20we walk in these rooms they're not
2:16:21they're like what is this tall black guy
2:16:22going to do what's he doing different
2:16:24and the same way when we met bro and
2:16:26you're like hopefully not dropping
2:16:27another Davido or Waka flocka coin you
2:16:29know
2:16:30>> please please bro
2:16:33I already made up God's bless you I made
2:16:34enough money I already got enough money
2:16:35I don't have to drop a shitcoin to make
2:16:37you know 250k or have sahill sex text me
2:16:40a ca that guy's annoying as hell [ __ ]
2:16:42the hill. [ __ ] the hill, by the way.
2:16:44[ __ ]
2:16:46>> Wow. So, you're deep. What was your
2:16:47first move into crypto?
2:16:49>> My first move. Okay, so this is how it
2:16:51actually happened, and I remember I told
2:16:52Z this. It was a buddy of mine at the
2:16:54time. He bought like some meme called
2:16:56like Book a Meme. He put like a $1,000
2:16:58in it.
2:16:58>> Boom. Boom.
2:16:59>> Yeah.
2:17:00>> Yeah. Ran it up to 50K. And then I
2:17:02remember he calling me not sleeping,
2:17:04bags under his eyes.
2:17:04>> Why did he buy that?
2:17:06So, I guess a friend of his in LA, a
2:17:09friend of his in LA was like, "Yo, bro,
2:17:10open up a phantom and buy this meme."
2:17:12>> Yeah.
2:17:13>> He didn't know. And
2:17:15>> I wonder how much money that
2:17:16[ __ ] made to tell that
2:17:18[ __ ] to open up, right?
2:17:20>> Exactly. My dog makes 50. This
2:17:22[ __ ] definitely made at least
2:17:24like six figures for sure, you know?
2:17:26>> Yeah. Yeah.
2:17:27>> So, he's doing that. He's calling me.
2:17:29I'm in Cleveland right now with the Cavs
2:17:31call. He's not sleeping. And for me,
2:17:33I've always been about like making
2:17:34money, right? Because the reality, like
2:17:36you said, athletes make a lot of money,
2:17:37then they [ __ ] it all up. So for me,
2:17:39it's like, oh, how can I always prever
2:17:40preserve this and make more and starting
2:17:44to dive into it. I remember going on CT
2:17:46and Z was on your page and you were
2:17:48talking about, you know, whiff and and I
2:17:51then you see Jason Derulo, random
2:17:52people, then a Marty party and I get in
2:17:54this rabbit hole and I'm like, yo,
2:17:56people are really going from like
2:17:58working at like average normal CV as a
2:18:00job to being like a millionaire. And I
2:18:02was like, "Okay, I gotta figure out what
2:18:04this is because if I'm gonna put if I'm
2:18:05always the financial guru in my locker
2:18:07room, I got to know what the hell's
2:18:09going on." So do dove into it more.
2:18:11Remember talking to Black Rockck who
2:18:12managed my portfolio at the time a good
2:18:14amount. Tell them want to buy BTC and
2:18:16they're like, "Nah, it's too volatile.
2:18:18Don't [ __ ] with it." You know, anyone
2:18:19that knows Black Rockck, these guys
2:18:21love, like the best way to say like they
2:18:23love like talking about themselves and
2:18:24love jerking themselves off when they
2:18:25talk, right? And I was like I was like,
2:18:28"Bro, I'm not doing this." I'm like,
2:18:30"Okay, cool. Whatever." I take their
2:18:32advice. I'm young, right? Come to find
2:18:34out, Larry Fig and them are buying bit
2:18:36Bitcoin. So, I was like, "Okay, because
2:18:37I can't eat off and you guys want to eat
2:18:39off like my capital. You guys are not
2:18:40letting me do it." So, that made me dive
2:18:42into crypto more and I started buying
2:18:44Bitcoin, buying some Bitcoin and got the
2:18:47got the, you know, the orange pill they
2:18:48like to say, and got the bug. So,
2:18:50>> Oh, Black Rockck, man. Wow.
2:18:52>> Yeah. And yo, Z, by the way, when you're
2:18:54talking about DC, I was I was averaging
2:18:56in around like $75. So, appreciate that.
2:18:58>> Oh, which one? Say it again. ZC. DC.
2:19:01>> Oh, fire. Yeah, you were early. You were
2:19:04on it. As soon as I like the first time
2:19:06I mentioned it, it was like 75. That's
2:19:08fire. Yeah, that's fire.
2:19:10>> Z, we like ZC a bro. We like ZC. I think
2:19:13it's in a good spot. That's one you can
2:19:14like sit on for two. Like you don't even
2:19:16have to like worry about that. You can
2:19:17sit on it for a minute.
2:19:19>> So, Anthem's really excited. Been
2:19:20bulling the [ __ ] out of Zcash and um
2:19:23>> really strong thesis around it.
2:19:25>> Zcash. It's almost like uh the privacy
2:19:27Bitcoin, right? Like it's another layer
2:19:29of that, right? So,
2:19:30>> exactly. Bitcoin for private
2:19:32>> and also quantum resistance
2:19:33>> solves solves solves a couple problems.
2:19:35Yeah, that's
2:19:37>> Yeah.
2:19:38>> Um, yeah. So, I know you've worked done
2:19:40some like work on the NIL stuff. I don't
2:19:43know how much you can talk about that,
2:19:44but I think that's been really
2:19:46interesting for me to see like these
2:19:48college athletes now get compensated as
2:19:50they weren't getting compensated before
2:19:52or like we're getting compensated under
2:19:53the table. It has been great for like a
2:19:55lot of kids who can do or doing well in
2:19:58college. What do you what do you think
2:19:59the thoughts on that like your
2:20:00involvement like around that?
2:20:02>> Yeah. No, I'll dive into it. So, right
2:20:04now what I'm doing is uh working with uh
2:20:06you know Capitol Hill and Congress uh
2:20:09Congress Bill Rockis we're working on
2:20:11right now because NIL is it's almost
2:20:13become like the pro sports right. It's
2:20:14it's the amount of money these kids
2:20:16these young men are making young women
2:20:17are making. It's like real professional
2:20:19money right like yeah there's a of ours
2:20:21under Clutch Sports that got 11 million
2:20:24wire sent to his debit account right
2:20:26like that's real money. Yeah, that's
2:20:28crazy.
2:20:28>> That's generational money right there
2:20:30for a young kid from the hood, right?
2:20:31So, for me it was like how can we
2:20:32protect our young athletes where that
2:20:35they're protected so that we can get
2:20:36them money managers and one one thing
2:20:38I'm pushing right now is like financial
2:20:39managers where we're pushing the
2:20:41universities to allow them the
2:20:43opportunity to pick a a financial
2:20:44advisor in order to be eligible to play,
2:20:46right? The same way like
2:20:48>> oh wow,
2:20:48>> let's be real. They're saying you have
2:20:50to have these grades to be eligible.
2:20:52That's cool and all, but having a final
2:20:54manager is actually way more important
2:20:55because let you guys know 70% of your
2:20:58bachelor degrees, you don't get a job in
2:21:00that. So, you're telling me 30% of
2:21:02chance of what I'm learning in this
2:21:03classroom, I get a job in this field.
2:21:04No, I rather protect my capital.
2:21:06>> No, it makes absolutely no sense. And
2:21:07you have to you have to beg the question
2:21:09like, is this by design? Like, that's
2:21:11where people go down these rabbit holes,
2:21:12tinfoil hat, like are they trying to
2:21:14[ __ ] us over? Are they setting us up for
2:21:16failure? Because it's like, I don't
2:21:17know, education needs a [ __ ] crazy
2:21:19reform. I just saw a tweet somewhere
2:21:20about um yeah, some some some rate um
2:21:24school rate getting slashed because not
2:21:25enough people are enrolling, not enough
2:21:26people are going to college. People are
2:21:28kind of starting to figure it out. Um
2:21:30it's [ __ ] insane that you don't learn
2:21:31about finance or like legal growing up
2:21:34like in high school. And it's it's
2:21:36crazy. Like you should be learning
2:21:38should be learning about money the same
2:21:40way you learn about math and science
2:21:41your entire life.
2:21:42>> Yeah. Yeah. And and what I'm what I'm
2:21:44really pushing is like enough of the
2:21:45suit and tie guys that work at Voya and
2:21:48and all these like 401k funds telling
2:21:50like Gen Z people like how to manage
2:21:53your money. Like they need guys like us.
2:21:54Like that's what I'm pushing. Like
2:21:55having former athletes come in and
2:21:57basically give the free game. Like I
2:21:58remember when in the NBA when we had
2:22:00Antoine Walker come talk to us and he
2:22:02showed us his whole balance sheet of
2:22:04like why he had that financial
2:22:06situation, right? And it was really
2:22:07because one investor in Chicago, he
2:22:09burnt $28 million because the person
2:22:11that he set up the the entity with made
2:22:14him like full liability and not under an
2:22:15LLC. So he gets sued as a slum slum
2:22:18landlord. You know what I'm saying?
2:22:19Where
2:22:20>> the entity in the LLC should have took
2:22:22the hit. You know what I'm saying? So
2:22:23like that's where his [ __ ] up happened.
2:22:25So it's like for us now it's like
2:22:27>> I have former players like myself, a guy
2:22:29like Evan Turner, a guy like John Wall.
2:22:31These are just names to throw out that
2:22:32guys that I'm trying to put together
2:22:33where we go to these universities and
2:22:35like put these put these young people on
2:22:37and like try to help them out because at
2:22:39the end of the day if you don't make the
2:22:40pros I still want people to be protected
2:22:43capital-wise where it's like hey go get
2:22:45your entrylevel job but just know we
2:22:47have you know mid six figures saved up
2:22:49in a money market 4% even though I think
2:22:52yielding on chain is way better but like
2:22:54like I'm saying something safe
2:22:57>> bro it's sick it's enough really amazing
2:23:00if there's any way we can ever help or
2:23:02there's any alignment with the show or
2:23:03you want to bring somebody on or a
2:23:0515minute call-in spot, we do it once a
2:23:07week. Obviously, if there's anything we
2:23:09can ever obviously I'm local, I'm right
2:23:10down the street from you in LA. If
2:23:11there's ever an opportunity for me to
2:23:13help you in that, that's [ __ ]
2:23:14awesome. It's it's totally in line with
2:23:15why we have the show, why this exists.
2:23:18Um, I see all day long these kids
2:23:20scrolling um, mindlessly just absorbing
2:23:24and [ __ ] consuming all this like
2:23:26sloppy, shitty, really unhealthy content
2:23:29with no purpose, no intent, scrolling
2:23:32versus searching. And I just think I
2:23:33think it's really really important to
2:23:34push that
2:23:36>> that rhetoric.
2:23:36>> I do think part of it is predatory to be
2:23:38honest. Like I think the lack of
2:23:39financial education for um that specific
2:23:42group of people, it's like those people
2:23:44you you get a lot of money really fast
2:23:46and you don't know what to do with it.
2:23:47But then it's like instead of saying how
2:23:49you can save it, it's like there's a lot
2:23:51of brands who like will make a [ __ ] ton
2:23:54if you're going to go spend that money
2:23:56and blow that money. So like all the
2:23:57luxury brands, all the designer brands,
2:24:00they are literally like attack that
2:24:01group more than anything because that
2:24:03group spends a lot more there than like
2:24:04your average person does. So I I think
2:24:06part of it is honestly intentional.
2:24:07That's a crazy take, but that's so real.
2:24:09It's very real. That's crazy. That's
2:24:11[ __ ] true.
2:24:13>> Like all the people that like the young
2:24:15like we like look on Instagram and like
2:24:16who's spending the money, right? It's
2:24:18all like, you know,
2:24:21>> on social.
2:24:22>> Yeah, bro. And like you got to keep up
2:24:24you got to keep up a persona and an
2:24:26image and a brand and [ __ ] like like you
2:24:28said, you caught me wearing some crazy
2:24:29unfindable archable chrome. I'm gonna
2:24:31have to come twice as crazy the next
2:24:33time you see me a bird.
2:24:36Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,
2:24:38>> that's just that's kind of like LA drug
2:24:41of how it happens, right? You have to
2:24:42stay in, dude.
2:24:44>> Swag over safety, bro. Swag over safety.
2:24:46>> Swag over safety. That's
2:24:48>> It's a swagger fight, brother.
2:24:51>> Yeah, man.
2:24:52>> Cool. It's been really nice talking to
2:24:54you and having you on. Is there anything
2:24:55else you want to talk about or or touch
2:24:57on or
2:24:57>> Who do you think's winning this year in
2:24:59the playoffs?
2:24:59>> Yeah, that's we we should definitely
2:25:01talk about that.
2:25:02>> Okay. Who I got? Okay. So, I'm gonna go
2:25:03with OKC cuz of Shay from the crib.
2:25:06That's a little bro. So, I'm going go
2:25:07OKC
2:25:09and the flyest.
2:25:10>> He's [ __ ] And the flyest on the
2:25:12subject.
2:25:13>> Doesn't wear outfit twice. So, if
2:25:15anyone's his size, you already know who
2:25:16he can get easy fits from. So, thanks.
2:25:19So, you know, you guys are around the
2:25:20same height.
2:25:21>> Has the craziest [ __ ] Yeah,
2:25:22>> crazy. But, uh, I got OKC. If OKC
2:25:25doesn't win, then I got San Antonio.
2:25:27It's It's coming out the West. The West
2:25:28is taking the chip. Those two teams are
2:25:30way at a higher level. Okay, you Z, I
2:25:33know you love your Knicks, but guess
2:25:35what? You and Spikeley, I I get the
2:25:37whole orange and blue skies, but it's
2:25:40all, but guess what? I'm happy that the
2:25:41Knicks are actually competitive, but
2:25:43>> I don't even like I actually don't even
2:25:45like the Knicks. I I'm Sixers. I'm I'm
2:25:47Philly, bro. I don't even like the
2:25:48Knicks.
2:25:48>> Yeah.
2:25:50>> Yeah. I'm I'm Eagles more than anything
2:25:52to be honest, but Sixers just because of
2:25:54the same thing. So, yeah. When it comes
2:25:56to the Eagles, when it comes to
2:25:57football, New York Eagles, I know you
2:25:58spent a bankroll for Super Bowl, so I
2:25:59know you're already I put a I put a
2:26:02hundred on them and that was that was
2:26:04probably one of the best days I've ever
2:26:06had to be honest. That [ __ ] was crazy.
2:26:08That was
2:26:08>> Is there a broader market for the West?
2:26:10Can we trade just the West
2:26:13>> cuz I like I actually like that
2:26:15>> or just OKC. Can you like
2:26:17>> We can do like
2:26:18>> I I do think what you said is like
2:26:21either OKC or San Antonio. I don't think
2:26:23also don't think it's coming out of the
2:26:24East, but the Spurs got to go through
2:26:25OKC. I do think they actually beat OKC a
2:26:29few times this year though. Like I I
2:26:30think
2:26:31>> three or four times
2:26:32>> they did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like
2:26:33I don't know if we have anything on the
2:26:35West specifically. Dang. Shay Shay is
2:26:3898% to win MVP.
2:26:40>> MVP. Yes. So
2:26:43>> yeah.
2:26:44>> Yeah. What do you think about Wimby? You
2:26:47think he's uh gonna be dominant for a
2:26:48while or what do you think,
2:26:50>> bro? WMBBY's and I and I remember
2:26:52telling you WBY is probably the best big
2:26:55in our league since Prime Shack. What
2:26:58he's able to do.
2:26:59>> Those are big words. Wow. Wow.
2:27:00>> I'm standing I'm standing on I'm st I'm
2:27:03stamping that like
2:27:05>> like how tall is he?
2:27:08>> Seven six eight feet at this point. I
2:27:10mean
2:27:11>> like he's um what he able to do
2:27:13defensively to be able to block shots.
2:27:15Literally, when guys go in the lane,
2:27:17they'll just throw it up. They're
2:27:18praying it gets close to the rim because
2:27:20he's Windexing everything right now.
2:27:22He's he's beating up everything. Like
2:27:24he's he's making I Turner look like
2:27:26nothing. So, it's like he's going crazy.
2:27:28>> And he loves handles, too.
2:27:31>> She's three.
2:27:34>> That's insane.
2:27:34>> Yeah.
2:27:35>> What is he 75
2:27:37>> 76
2:27:40like KD
2:27:41>> moves like KD?
2:27:42>> He's alien, bro.
2:27:44is an alien.
2:27:46>> Yeah, we we have the poly market on like
2:27:48is is the government gonna confirm
2:27:49aliens? Wimy's already here, bro. That
2:27:51should be at 100%. Like 1,000%.
2:27:54>> If you told me Wim was an alien, I 100%
2:27:56believe you. I'm like, where in the
2:27:57world do you see guys that can walk
2:27:58around
2:28:01like
2:28:03>> Taco? They're definitely aliens.
2:28:05>> It gives me anxiety, man. [ __ ]
2:28:08>> How somebody that big exist?
2:28:10>> I fell into power.
2:28:12>> Yeah, facts. How does he sl How does he
2:28:14slash
2:28:15>> Tang
2:28:24[ __ ]
2:28:25>> bro?
2:28:26>> I actually I just went into a rabbit
2:28:28hole on social media once. I was looking
2:28:30at the alien [ __ ] and I got kept getting
2:28:31feeding [ __ ] from that uh like alien
2:28:34algorithm and I came across this page
2:28:36that like only talks about conspiracies
2:28:38and only talks about aliens and all
2:28:39that. Um, and they're putting out these
2:28:42like long videos. Their thesis is the
2:28:44aliens are already here, but they're
2:28:46blending in with humans. And it's like
2:28:48they're trying not to show that they're
2:28:50here. And then in the future, they're
2:28:51going to be like, oh yeah, these people
2:28:53were aliens. And I was like, damn. I
2:28:56wonder what like big name people,
2:28:58billionaire people would be alien. If I
2:29:00had to guess like out of all the
2:29:01billionaires, who's an alien doing some
2:29:03[ __ ] that they should not be doing?
2:29:06That's a
2:29:07>> uh I mean probably people probably say
2:29:09Larry Ellison and them.
2:29:10>> Yeah. Like all the the tech guys, right?
2:29:12Like the Google.
2:29:14>> Yeah, for sure.
2:29:15>> What's your guys top conspiracy? I have
2:29:18mine.
2:29:19>> You want me to go first?
2:29:20>> Yeah. Yeah. Please, please, please do.
2:29:21>> Yeah. Go go go.
2:29:22>> Jeffrey Epste didn't didn't commit
2:29:24suicide.
2:29:26>> That's That's a fact though, is it?
2:29:29>> It's not a conspiracy. I feel like
2:29:30that's just a fact.
2:29:31>> He didn't commit suicide. Someone
2:29:33>> obviously not. Obviously not.
2:29:37>> I think I think I'm with you on that
2:29:39one, too. Ah, yeah. That's that's
2:29:40tricky. I mean, the the I don't even
2:29:42want to go deep on that on that [ __ ] cuz
2:29:44that [ __ ] is [ __ ] in crazy, bro. Um I
2:29:47think my my number one conspiracy is
2:29:48that the aliens are in the ocean. That's
2:29:50my number one conspiracy.
2:29:52>> Like instead of space,
2:29:53>> what percent what percentage of you
2:29:54believes that
2:29:56>> the aliens are in the ocean?
2:29:58>> Yeah.
2:29:59>> Uh like 80%.
2:30:01>> Bro, what? Well, you know, you know, 70%
2:30:04of the
2:30:06seen,
2:30:07>> bro, think about it. Think about how
2:30:08much of the ocean we have not seen.
2:30:10>> Think about it.
2:30:11>> Aquaman, Jason.
2:30:13>> I understand. I understand this. Okay, I
2:30:15understand this. My whole my whole logic
2:30:17around aliens and why it's been very
2:30:19very hard for me to like make the leap
2:30:21to ever like any considerable percentage
2:30:24of me to believe that aliens have ever
2:30:26been to Earth is I just feel like
2:30:29there'd be no there's no reason for
2:30:31aliens to like be creeping around and
2:30:33[ __ ] being schemy and like like
2:30:35hiding. Like there's no reason. It'd be
2:30:36like us hiding from ants. For an alien
2:30:38to be technologically advanced to the
2:30:40point where it can travel to Earth,
2:30:42they'd be just as advanced to wipe us
2:30:44out without us ever even [ __ ] knowing
2:30:46they came here in the first place, which
2:30:47clearly hasn't happened. And in the
2:30:49event that they came here to like farm
2:30:50whatever or [ __ ] with us or teach us
2:30:52[ __ ] they would just make themselves
2:30:54known. Like, why the [ __ ] would they be
2:30:55hiding? That doesn't make sense to me.
2:30:57>> But think about how much they would
2:30:58scare people if they just like
2:30:59immediately came out of hiding.
2:31:01>> Think about how much scaring a squirrel
2:31:02or an ant. Do you give a [ __ ] about
2:31:04scaring an ant as you step over the
2:31:05antill? Are you like, "Fuck, I got to
2:31:07cross the street. There's a big antill
2:31:08coming up.
2:31:09>> I don't want I don't want to scare the
2:31:10[ __ ] out of these ants. You know what
2:31:12I'm saying? Like you don't give a [ __ ]
2:31:13>> I think
2:31:14>> I don't know.
2:31:15>> I maybe it's like
2:31:17>> I love the the aliens discussion by the
2:31:18way. But I think maybe it's like there's
2:31:20some level that we're supposed to get to
2:31:23before it's like worth it to expose
2:31:26themselves to us. So like if you think
2:31:27about like think about AI, right? Think
2:31:29about aliens, you think about AI. If you
2:31:31think AI is like possibly the next super
2:31:34intelligence, like it's getting smarter
2:31:35and smarter. Right now it's competing
2:31:37with humans on certain test taking
2:31:38things.
2:31:39>> That's a lock. By the way, I don't know
2:31:39if that's a conspiracy, but that's a
2:31:41lock. I'm 99.999%
2:31:43positive that that's
2:31:45>> So if you think you think about AI bad
2:31:48aliens,
2:31:49>> that's was that all bad are aliens. What
2:31:52are you going to say now?
2:31:53>> I wear coats.
2:31:55>> Take me take me to your leader head ass,
2:32:00>> bro.
2:32:00>> Hopefully hopefully they like chrome and
2:32:02[ __ ] skinny white hose.
2:32:07cuz I got you on that. I got you.
2:32:09>> Dang. What if that's how they're
2:32:10reproducing?
2:32:12>> Throw them in tats.
2:32:13>> Oh man.
2:32:15>> Right.
2:32:16>> Oh my god.
2:32:17>> I don't know. I I think my favorite
2:32:18conspiracy my favorite one to argue
2:32:20against and with is the moon landing's
2:32:21fake. That one is the best,
2:32:23>> bro. There's no way the moon landing is
2:32:25fake.
2:32:26>> Of course I agree. Of course you agree.
2:32:29>> I think that was photoshopped. I think
2:32:30that was not real.
2:32:32>> Here we go, man.
2:32:33We were so close. We were so close.
2:32:36Trist, we were so close. Brother,
2:32:38brother, brother, brother. The Bill
2:32:40Clinton got impeached and removed as
2:32:42president cuz he got a [ __ ] [ __ ]
2:32:44in the Oval Office. And two people knew
2:32:46that that happened. Two him and the girl
2:32:50sucking his dick. For the moon landing
2:32:52to be fake, there would have to be I
2:32:54think the stats like a 100,000 people
2:32:56would have to keep that secret. It's
2:32:58impossible, bro. It's impossible.
2:33:00Listen, when I don't know enough about a
2:33:02subject, I tend to lean on people who
2:33:04are much smarter than me in that in that
2:33:06in that area. Like Anom with finance and
2:33:08tech. Just talk to me, bro. I'm down to
2:33:10[ __ ] follow you off a cliff. Let me
2:33:12know what I'm doing. Let me know what
2:33:14[ __ ] Zcash bet. Say less. Neil
2:33:17deGrasse Tyson. When you listen to guys
2:33:18like Neil Degrass Tyson and Mitchioaku
2:33:20and [ __ ] astrologists who are [ __ ]
2:33:22500 IQ and they're like it's like such a
2:33:25trivial question to them. Neil grass
2:33:26like bro it's a z it's a less than zero
2:33:28percent chance that that shit's fake you
2:33:30just gota like
2:33:33>> yeah at some point it's like
2:33:36>> [ __ ] funny bro it can't be fake there
2:33:39there is
2:33:40>> earth is flat is even [ __ ] crazier
2:33:42that's like get like
2:33:43>> shout out shout out Kai
2:33:45>> [ __ ] that fool I'm just kidding I like
2:33:48but [ __ ] the flat earth [ __ ] that's
2:33:50crazy who's a who's a favorite person
2:33:52that you you play with in the NBA like
2:33:55to who like Who?
2:33:56>> That was a lot of fun. There's a lot of
2:33:58good good
2:33:58>> player and friend. Player and friend.
2:34:01>> Player and friend
2:34:02>> like who's your favorite teammate of all
2:34:03time because of how they play and who's
2:34:04your favorite like
2:34:05>> who's your who's your funniest teammate
2:34:06of all time?
2:34:08>> Funniest team I mean love you guys his
2:34:10his uh his Instagram when he was
2:34:12roasting like my can see that Indian
2:34:15humor. I haven't
2:34:16>> Yeah humor is like dark. It's
2:34:19>> I think I think Kevin Love was like born
2:34:21again white guy. I think he was probably
2:34:22black in his other life because his like
2:34:25how the brothers be trolling, but uh
2:34:27Cale Love is definitely one of my
2:34:28favorite human beings.
2:34:29>> And then teammates, I would probably say
2:34:32probably either LeBron or Kyrie just
2:34:33because of like watching what they were
2:34:34able to do.
2:34:35>> Of course,
2:34:35>> was one of one. I mean, you saw them in
2:34:37the finals both having 40 points against
2:34:39Golden State, you know, like those guys
2:34:41are doing those guys are
2:34:42>> LeBron. I don't know how your answer is
2:34:43in LeBron, right? It's like [ __ ]
2:34:45Yeah.
2:34:46>> Yeah. [ __ ]
2:34:47>> legend, bro. That's that's crazy.
2:34:50>> Kyrie, I think, is one of the most
2:34:51talented players I think I've seen play.
2:34:53His handles are nuts. Kyrie is nuts.
2:34:56>> Yeah, he's 6'2, but he plays like he's
2:34:57like 67. If you look like no one ever
2:35:00blocks his shot. He always is able to
2:35:01like he's able to do the ball and like
2:35:03left-hand and he's really right-handed.
2:35:05It's crazy. So, can't wait for him to
2:35:07get back on the court. So, that'll be
2:35:08good. Be good for
2:35:09>> Obviously, you have a serious like
2:35:11money-making mindset, entrepreneurial
2:35:13mindset, um positioning yourself for the
2:35:15future you talked about earlier. Um how
2:35:17do you think AI is going to like affect
2:35:19sports, basketball? How do you think
2:35:21it's going to disrupt this market? And
2:35:23are there any plays that you're making
2:35:24or positions that you're taking or
2:35:25anything that you're building in the
2:35:27background quietly maybe? Um that's kind
2:35:29of in line with that. Yeah, I think
2:35:31health I think the health aai and health
2:35:34datas like sports health I think that's
2:35:36the next step just because if you look
2:35:37at the playoffs injuries I remember last
2:35:40year you had Tyrese Halleurn Jason Tatum
2:35:43and Damian all tear their Achilles like
2:35:46cool but like we need the next step like
2:35:48how can AI technology and have that data
2:35:50and research be able to protect our
2:35:52athletes right and like you said it's
2:35:53[ __ ] the playoffs were in the biggest
2:35:55stage of the moment losing your marquee
2:35:57guys that's not good for basketball
2:35:58that's not good to make money so for me
2:36:00it's figuring fig out how how can we
2:36:02incorporate AI sports medicine and like
2:36:05players loads and metrics to figure out
2:36:07how what's the best way of keeping guys
2:36:08on the court because that's an issue
2:36:09right everyone's talking about load
2:36:11management and guys are missing games
2:36:13and skipping games so I'm trying to
2:36:15figure out
2:36:15>> and it's bad for the sport it's bad for
2:36:17the viewership bad for the market but
2:36:18also this is like life shattering [ __ ]
2:36:20sometimes in certain instances right
2:36:21like whole careers get [ __ ] up and
2:36:24>> you know real I mean especially guys who
2:36:26get who get hurt like their first year
2:36:28or like their last year in college like
2:36:30that's [ __ ] crazy. You know what I
2:36:31mean?
2:36:31>> Yeah. Just like better coaching, right?
2:36:33Like using AI technology, get better
2:36:34coaching. Not every coach is good. Just
2:36:36because you're an NBA coach or a college
2:36:37doesn't mean you're good at it, right?
2:36:38So like using
2:36:40>> better drills and who knows if we had a
2:36:42better if AI was around and better
2:36:43coach. Yo, you might have been like the
2:36:45next like you know Luke Canard.
2:36:47>> You never know, brother. You never know.
2:36:49>> You never know. I'm always dreaming and
2:36:51scheming and [ __ ] picking [ __ ] up,
2:36:54putting [ __ ] down. That's actually where
2:36:55I think that we have everyone is
2:36:57afforded this opportunity right now. I
2:36:59think AI is very good and what I use it
2:37:00for in my day-to-day is to just like
2:37:02optimize like the structure of my own
2:37:04life and I'll I'll ask one of my
2:37:05favorite things to ask Claude or ChatBT
2:37:07or whatever OpenClaw is what what am I
2:37:10missing here? Like what are some blind
2:37:12spots? Like what can I be doing better?
2:37:14Be brutally honest. Don't be biased.
2:37:16Don't tell me what I want to hear. And
2:37:17like it's just so good at [ __ ] at at
2:37:19finding that, you know, because it sees
2:37:21the whole view where you're as people we
2:37:23get. Is that is that Miss Kiff?
2:37:26>> Hey, what up man? Not all of us here.
2:37:28>> That's our next guess. Yeah, there's a
2:37:29little there's a little there's a little
2:37:31overlap.
2:37:31>> You know what that means? You know what
2:37:32that means? It's like TT get the [ __ ]
2:37:34off, right?
2:37:38>> That's so good.
2:37:39>> This is [ __ ] great, bro. Come on the
2:37:41show anytime you want. You're the goat.
2:37:42Like, you're honestly the best.
2:37:45>> Yeah. No, I appreciate Phil's uh you
2:37:46know, keep up the good work. And one
2:37:48last thing, perception of reality is
2:37:50realer than reality itself. Never forget
2:37:52that. Come on now.
2:37:53>> It's
2:37:55true.
2:37:55>> I believe that. Yo, drop mic drop. Yo,
2:37:58appreciate you, man. You're the goat.
2:37:59Come back soon.
2:38:01>> Yes. Yes. Love, love. Thanks. Top with
2:38:02me. We both in LA.
2:38:03>> I will. I will, brother. Thank you.
2:38:05>> Okay. All right, guys. Later.
2:38:07>> All right, brother.
2:38:07>> Dude, he's the goat.
2:38:08>> He's cool as [ __ ] bro.
2:38:10>> I love him. He's the best.
2:38:11>> It's going to hit so much harder now
2:38:13when I see him out at some random
2:38:14[ __ ] party or event or like
2:38:16restaurant.
2:38:17>> He's smart. I've seen him many, many
2:38:18times.
2:38:18>> Yeah. Yeah, he is. He is. I didn't know
2:38:20he was I didn't know he knew ball like
2:38:21that.
2:38:23>> Oh, that's good. Miz, where you live
2:38:26with Miz again. Put comma.
2:38:28Unfortunately, not
2:38:30>> miss
2:38:33>> the entertainer. His His name should be
2:38:35Miskip the Entertainer. I think he
2:38:36should add that on the end.
2:38:37>> He is like the exact opposite of what
2:38:39you are.
2:38:40>> Literally. I'm literally polar opposite
2:38:42personalities.
2:38:43>> I don't think we're that opposite.
2:38:47>> No, we are, bro. We are.
2:38:48>> You [ __ ] You're [ __ ] up the
2:38:49average. You're [ __ ] up the ratio.
2:38:51It's been me. I'm 6'5. Any 66. TJR is
2:38:546'5. [ __ ] What's Tristan? 69.
2:38:58>> How tall are you, miss?
2:39:00>> Bro, who cares? Because what matters is
2:39:01right now we're on camera and we're all
2:39:04the same. All of us.
2:39:05>> He said when I stand on my money, I'm
2:39:07tall. It don't matter. It don't matter.
2:39:09>> It doesn't matter. Look, that's and
2:39:11that's the beautiful thing about crypto
2:39:12and why we're here, right, is we're all
2:39:14in exchange with each other no matter
2:39:16what. We can all make money.
2:39:17>> What the [ __ ] are you talking about,
2:39:19bro?
2:39:20>> Bro, shut your [ __ ] ass up and bring up
2:39:22the P&L. What? But where are we at?
2:39:24Start at 300.
2:39:25>> That's what they've been saying to you
2:39:26for years.
2:39:29Facts.
2:39:30>> You're right. You're right. You're
2:39:32right.
2:39:32>> I kept the chat on for you today. Did
2:39:34you see that? The chat's been on.
2:39:35>> Yeah, I see it. They're here. What's up,
2:39:37chat? How you guys doing?
2:39:38>> You told you told me to keep the chat
2:39:39on.
2:39:39>> Yeah, cuz it was emote only.
2:39:41>> He didn't know that emote only chat is
2:39:44not a good thing on on Twitch. It's
2:39:45>> brother, I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm not
2:39:47I'm not a streamer. I'm not a streamer.
2:39:48>> You're learning. It's fine. But yeah,
2:39:49it's it's not the best. Uh yeah, I can I
2:39:52could talk shop. I could talk the
2:39:53portfolio. So if you guys don't know
2:39:54what's going on on Face Banks to stream,
2:39:56what's going on on Mizkiff? Uh I uh I'm
2:39:59on the other side of this of the coin.
2:40:01Uh I'm on I'm on kick where um basically
2:40:04what I'm doing now is I'm I'm giving my
2:40:05chat $300,000 to invest in. I become
2:40:08their financial adviser. I'm not really.
2:40:10And uh we've been investing heavily this
2:40:12week. So I think last time I talked to
2:40:14you guys, we were up to $310,000 in the
2:40:17portfolio, right?
2:40:18>> I think it was 303. But sure. Yeah.
2:40:19continue.
2:40:20>> Okay. So, you know, J, you hear that? He
2:40:23says 303. What if I told you guys we're
2:40:25at $46,000?
2:40:27>> Are you joking?
2:40:28>> I swear to God.
2:40:29>> I swear to God, we're at $46,000 right
2:40:32now.
2:40:32>> That is [ __ ] insane.
2:40:34>> That's sick as [ __ ] bro.
2:40:35>> Wait, Miz, what?
2:40:38>> He's crushing it.
2:40:39>> I'm not li What have you made? What have
2:40:41What What has changed from LA? That's
2:40:43100K in a week.
2:40:44>> AM AMD and something else, right?
2:40:46>> AMD. Uh, let's see. AMD. We are up 1,000
2:40:51bucks.
2:40:52>> Yep.
2:40:53>> Well, that's not 100K. So, where the
2:40:54[ __ ] did the 100K come from?
2:40:57>> Uh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
2:40:59Did you add money to the to the
2:41:01portfolio? Did you add capital?
2:41:04>> Yeah, I gave him.
2:41:07>> I told you skip the entertainer, bro.
2:41:10It's why is his name literally his name?
2:41:13>> There is no [ __ ]
2:41:14>> like damn, bro. Do you start playing
2:41:16options? like how 30 30% on the total.
2:41:20>> Yeah, we actually did give them options
2:41:21trading as well.
2:41:22>> I was I was about to say take my spot on
2:41:23the show, brother. This is [ __ ]
2:41:26insane.
2:41:27>> That's insane. I actually was talking to
2:41:29production um I don't know if this is
2:41:31too transparent. I actually haven't
2:41:32talked to Z or any of the market bubble
2:41:34people, but you we talked about
2:41:36obviously I own part of a production
2:41:37company in LA and we were talking about
2:41:39um you doing that like Caleb Hammer
2:41:41style like one-on-one thing.
2:41:44>> Yeah. And I feel like there's a way to
2:41:46do it. Like I feel like you should do it
2:41:47on this set. And I feel like there maybe
2:41:49even could be a way to like work it into
2:41:50what we're building here. Maybe. I don't
2:41:52know if that appeals to you at all. But
2:41:53>> yeah. No, I'm down. I literally when you
2:41:56messaged me I was like, "All right." Cuz
2:41:56people build it in the bubble cuz I I
2:41:59like that one-on-one Caleb Hammer thing.
2:42:00We could easily produce that. Like I
2:42:02talked to the team. They're like, "Yeah,
2:42:03that's [ __ ] super smooth, super
2:42:04easy." I know. You want it to just be
2:42:05like,
2:42:06>> you know, they cast the person, sit
2:42:08down, boom, and then you do your thing.
2:42:10They tell me to show up and I show up,
2:42:12you know, because I do have a full-time
2:42:14job right now. I'm working. So, it's
2:42:15kind of hard to,
2:42:16>> you know, I got that's my passion is I
2:42:18like to do finance and help people with
2:42:19finance, but I have to do my actual
2:42:21real-time job to make money. So,
2:42:22>> what's your real time?
2:42:23>> I got uh what I do right now. I'm a
2:42:26finance adviser for the a bunch of
2:42:29generates.
2:42:30>> So, jokes aside, you said the portfolio
2:42:31is set to what 404k. What did you say?
2:42:34>> We are currently at right now. So, I
2:42:35gave them extra $100,000 today. So, it's
2:42:38not like they had it all week.
2:42:39>> Nice. So after great earnings of
2:42:41everything uh and all the stocks that
2:42:43they have had, they are currently at
2:42:46$47,000.
2:42:47>> Okay. So up seven bands. It's chill.
2:42:50>> That's fire.
2:42:50>> Yeah.
2:42:51>> So I'll tell you what happened. It's
2:42:53been
2:42:53>> in two weeks. In two weeks total, right?
2:42:55>> No, it's been about uh we started last
2:42:58Tuesday. It's been a week from today.
2:42:59Week from No.
2:43:00>> Oh [ __ ]
2:43:01>> No, no. Tuesday last week. What is that?
2:43:02Seven.
2:43:03>> A week and a half. Week and a half. Week
2:43:04and two days.
2:43:05>> Nine days.
2:43:06So, uh, the real killer for a lot of
2:43:09this and actually what [ __ ] them up
2:43:10the most was, uh, Coreweave was the big
2:43:13problem here. Uh, they got involved with
2:43:15Coreeave, which is basically like the,
2:43:17uh, Airbnb version of databases and and,
2:43:21uh, you know, computers and chips.
2:43:23>> They got completely hammered on that cuz
2:43:25we we bought emotionally. We were
2:43:27stupid. We That's the one we said we
2:43:29liked just based off the Leopold thing,
2:43:32right? We didn't really like it. We
2:43:33obviously didn't buy that. We would
2:43:34never do something as [ __ ] as that.
2:43:36But we um that was the one that like uh
2:43:39the Leupold is that the guy's name Anom
2:43:41Leupold
2:43:42>> Leupold. Yeah. Ashen the [ __ ] goat.
2:43:45>> So it it look I think it's a great stock
2:43:47longterm. They do have a lot of uh a lot
2:43:49of plays next year and they actually
2:43:50have a lot in the back burner. But uh
2:43:52one problem is uh their earnings were
2:43:55definitely not the best
2:43:57>> and uh we bought the news which I hate
2:44:00doing and we [ __ ] up. And then the
2:44:01next day went down another 10% and in
2:44:03total that position we're down about
2:44:06$3,000.
2:44:07>> I see.
2:44:08>> Another stock that we were actually down
2:44:10a lot in was uh the play that we took
2:44:12from you guys last week.
2:44:13>> Oh, MP
2:44:15is down. Yeah,
2:44:17>> MP's down.
2:44:17>> We we took actually chat, thank god we
2:44:20got out of MP because by the way it was
2:44:22down 5% today.
2:44:23>> So we would have had another bad day
2:44:25with MP but MP has been down since I've
2:44:27actually talked to you last.
2:44:29>> It's unfair. It's it's it's unfair to
2:44:31assess it that it's unfair to assess it
2:44:32that way. And uh we articulated very
2:44:35very clearly this is a longer term play.
2:44:37We're not investing we're not investing
2:44:38to exit.
2:44:40>> No, it's it's it's fair to nowadays is
2:44:43two weeks. Okay. You got to understand
2:44:45what kind of market we're in. We're in a
2:44:46crazy market where every day you're
2:44:48seeing 10% 15% or minus 15%. It's a wild
2:44:51[ __ ] goose chase right now. It's
2:44:53true. He also brought up VVV, but you
2:44:55you can't invest in crypto. And I'm not
2:44:57touching Hyperlid cuz [ __ ] else.
2:44:59>> Yeah, bro. You at least if you're going
2:45:00to talk [ __ ] you got to come on the
2:45:01comp, bro. If you're going to talk [ __ ]
2:45:03you got to come on the comp and
2:45:04>> Can I ask you a question? So, what
2:45:05happened with Hyperlid? Because I saw uh
2:45:08uh uh
2:45:09>> very good [ __ ] brother. It's a real
2:45:11product. It's amazing. Coinbase, Z, you
2:45:14you tell them. You talk about it.
2:45:16>> Wait, what are you going to ask real
2:45:18quick? Go back. He said, "What happened
2:45:19with Hyperlid?" He saw news about it.
2:45:21Well, I I saw the news that apparently
2:45:23uh Anthropic was like, "Hey, look, like
2:45:26that's not us." They were like, "Uh
2:45:30shares."
2:45:30>> So, yeah. So, Anthropic said they
2:45:33basically put out a statement saying
2:45:34that if you're buying shares off of
2:45:37somebody in like a nonofficial, not the
2:45:39official round, there's no way for
2:45:41people to officially like directly sell
2:45:43their shares to somebody else. And it's
2:45:45illegal. They're like, "We put that out
2:45:47in all of our docs." Like, you can't do
2:45:48that. Um so, that was that. Um there is
2:45:51a perp on Hyperlquid that is tracking
2:45:55the anthropic price, but that's not
2:45:57facilitating the the like sell and buy
2:45:59of shares that somebody has in an actual
2:46:02um in the actual equity. It's not it's
2:46:04not the same thing, but that is what
2:46:05>> Can you explain to me how that works
2:46:07though? Like I don't understand how they
2:46:08put it at a $1.2 trillion valuation on
2:46:10on on on
2:46:13their Hyperlid when it's not even
2:46:16released yet. Like I I just don't
2:46:17understand how that works. So,
2:46:18>> like they get to spend like on a
2:46:195-year-old.
2:46:21>> Yeah. So, what happens when they're not
2:46:23tracked by an oracle? Typically, when
2:46:26you're trading on some um exchange,
2:46:28there's an oracle connected to what the
2:46:29the actual price of the asset is. But if
2:46:32the asset's not trading yet publicly,
2:46:34it's strictly based off of the order
2:46:36book. So, like there's obviously people
2:46:37long and short. For every position that
2:46:39you take um on perpetuals, there's
2:46:42somebody who has like who's taking the
2:46:43opposite side of your position. Um, and
2:46:46wherever the market demand and supply
2:46:48settles is how it prices um, the asset,
2:46:52but it's also it's also dependent on
2:46:55like knowledge that people have of
2:46:56what's going on in secondary sales and
2:46:58all of that. But I mean, the best
2:47:00example that we just had that just
2:47:02happened this past week. We talked about
2:47:03actually when you came on last time was
2:47:05Cerebras. So that IPO, there was a
2:47:07preIPO perpetual future of that um, that
2:47:11stock. it was not connected to the
2:47:12actual price of the stock because it
2:47:13hadn't IPOed yet. Um, they were
2:47:15estimated that the round was going to do
2:47:17at 115 a share. Then they raised it to
2:47:20like 185 a share because there was so
2:47:23much demand, but on Hyperlquid at the
2:47:25time it was trading at $280
2:47:28when that happened.
2:47:30>> Yes, I'll pull up. Where is it?
2:47:32Cerebrus. I'll pull it up.
2:47:34>> Misk, get in the middle of the screen.
2:47:35I'm gonna take my [ __ ] 10th piss of
2:47:37the day. That's right, chat. This is my
2:47:3910th time getting up to take a piss. I
2:47:41don't know what's [ __ ] wrong with me.
2:47:42Poly market, we need we need odds for
2:47:44next week. Actually, plus or minus six
2:47:47six breaks. I I really apologize, but
2:47:51>> I'm [ __ ] 50 years old. Miz, get in
2:47:52the get in the center. Scooch over a
2:47:54little bit,
2:47:56>> dude. You're so [ __ ] You're so funny.
2:47:59>> The entertainer. Um but yeah, so a good
2:48:02example of this Cerebrus the IPO
2:48:04happened literally today, but this
2:48:07market has been live on Hyperlid since
2:48:09May 1st. So anybody could trade this
2:48:11market. Um but it wasn't connected to
2:48:13any oracle that is like the actual price
2:48:15of the asset. And so it was really just
2:48:17determined by people buying and selling
2:48:19and thinking or trying to estimate what
2:48:21it's going to open at. So when it was
2:48:24announced that they were doing the round
2:48:26at 115 a share, it it this traded at
2:48:28300, it traded down to 200,
2:48:31>> but for the rest of the past week, it's
2:48:32traded up to like 285. So then
2:48:35yesterday, somebody they officially
2:48:37announced that they did the 5.5 billion
2:48:39round at $185 a share, but on Hyperlid,
2:48:43it didn't match that price because
2:48:44people thought it was going to open
2:48:45higher on the market. So is it
2:48:47essentially like poly market then but
2:48:48for
2:48:50>> it's kind of similar in predicting like
2:48:52where something is going to open like
2:48:53there were actually polyarket lines on
2:48:55like where this is going to open. So
2:48:56it's sim it was similar in that way but
2:48:58this is just like another instrument of
2:49:00people predicting but they were right
2:49:02that the crazy part is that they were
2:49:03right like it opened at 350 and the
2:49:06announcement that it was going to open
2:49:07at 350 dropped today at like 10 a.m. and
2:49:10when that dropped it went from 280
2:49:12obviously to like 380 and now it's at
2:49:14like 3:30. Um, but it's crazy because
2:49:16Hyperlick was the venue where this price
2:49:18discovery happened for the biggest IPO
2:49:20this year. It's pretty insane.
2:49:22>> What about SpaceX? Is SpaceX on there?
2:49:25>> SpaceX. SpaceX is a good question. Is
2:49:27SpaceX on here? I don't think so yet,
2:49:29but I would like I would bet Oh, they
2:49:32have this. So, this is like lower
2:49:33liquidity though. So, if you see this is
2:49:35a platform called Vinuals. Um, the total
2:49:38liquidity is like 5 million, which is
2:49:40not a lot. and the Cerebrus IPO was on
2:49:42this other
2:49:43>> um platform called Trade XYZ and
2:49:46liquidity was slightly higher but
2:49:48>> I would imagine they're also going to do
2:49:49SpaceX um and like all these other ones
2:49:53like it it's because they did so well
2:49:54with Cereba they're probably going to do
2:49:56the other ones as well but yeah SpaceX
2:49:58right now is is here what about so so
2:50:00basically this week I'll tell you what
2:50:02we did so uh we had a pretty weird week
2:50:06I'm not going to lie to you I mean the
2:50:07market has been up there's been a lot of
2:50:09green going all the way
2:50:10We were up and actually doing really
2:50:12well for a short period of time.
2:50:14>> Uh but then coreweave absolutely [ __ ]
2:50:17us raw. That [ __ ] us. Uh the minerals
2:50:20[ __ ] us so hard.
2:50:22>> Yeah,
2:50:22>> those two things I think beat us by more
2:50:24than anything else. Chat, was there
2:50:25anything else that we really got [ __ ]
2:50:27on? It was coreweave. We lost about
2:50:30$4,000 in profit right there. We got
2:50:32[ __ ] on a coffee trade. One of my
2:50:34friends told us to get into coffee. Oh
2:50:36wow.
2:50:36>> And him screwed us. Him's absolutely
2:50:39>> Oh, yeah. Hims him earnings was bad. I I
2:50:42did see that happen. Hims was bad.
2:50:43>> The ones the the two stocks that I came
2:50:45when I came on your on your stream the
2:50:47day before we did the show, I said Intel
2:50:50and I said Take Two. They're both up.
2:50:51Just saying.
2:50:52>> That is true. That is true.
2:50:54>> Just saying. Go check the VOD.
2:50:56>> Okay.
2:50:56>> And you both like GTA 6, so Take Two is
2:50:58a good one. Take 2 is up, but it's also
2:51:00based on the fact that someone at Best
2:51:01Buy showed that they previous they
2:51:03leaked early uh by accident the the fact
2:51:05that it's coming uh to pre-order on May
2:51:0818th or some [ __ ]
2:51:08>> Is that why?
2:51:09>> Yeah.
2:51:10>> Wow. I didn't even know that.
2:51:11>> Yeah, cuz they they it's basically Best
2:51:13Buy has been shown to leak it and people
2:51:15have leaked it and they're leaking it
2:51:16right now and uh Yeah. So, it's it's
2:51:19kind of just a rumor.
2:51:20>> Look at this [ __ ] off response to this
2:51:22tweet. Is Banks getting There's a clip
2:51:25that just went up. Banks speaks on GTA
2:51:276, whatever. Is Banks getting paid to
2:51:30push this narrative? Here we go, man.
2:51:31Here we go. Yeah. Take two. Paying me
2:51:33big big bucks. Michelle, take two. You
2:51:36[ __ ] [ __ ] suckers,
2:51:38>> dude. Banks, like the thing is I never
2:51:40look at this kind of stuff because I
2:51:42know it's pointless, dude. That's why
2:51:43you just got to move on.
2:51:44>> No, no, no. I I'm Oh, give me a [ __ ]
2:51:47break, man. Shut the [ __ ] up.
2:51:50>> Shut the [ __ ] up.
2:51:52>> Well, we got we got to hear about that.
2:51:55We got to we got to hear about Amaru 25
2:51:57times a [ __ ] stream. You're you're
2:52:00doing [ __ ] finance trading and it's
2:52:04like why don't I like [ __ ] AMD? Oh,
2:52:06it's cuz that one time Emu [ __ ] Please,
2:52:09man.
2:52:10>> Who's Emu?
2:52:10>> Okay. Well, I actually bought it. I
2:52:12actually went against the fundamentals.
2:52:13Okay, so you're wrong. Um,
2:52:16>> what what's Emu? Emu Emu stock is
2:52:19>> RBT. Even GTA isn't turning people into
2:52:22millionaires. Just remember this tweet
2:52:24because this kid this kid's a [ __ ]
2:52:26[ __ ] and flopped like crypto. I got an
2:52:28ETH at8 $800. I got in Sal I got in
2:52:31Salana at $8 and still lost a half a
2:52:34million dollars in Salana which Yeah. Um
2:52:39thanks. I have a question. Have you ever
2:52:40thought about just like in phase one
2:52:44phase one streamer or of the year two
2:52:46years in a row? [ __ ] yourselves. Shout
2:52:48out stable Ronaldo, Jason the Wii, Lacy
2:52:51Silky Max. It was all you guys, baby. It
2:52:54was all you. I I played some Give me a
2:52:57[ __ ] break, man. I played some sort
2:52:58of role.
2:52:59>> I feel like I'm like playing a game and
2:53:00I'm like listening to the same story
2:53:02that I I'm like trying to cut did the
2:53:03cut scene, but I can't.
2:53:04>> So, are you trying to get your instant
2:53:06get back cuz the Emiru the Emiru jab? Is
2:53:08that
2:53:09>> instant cut back? What are you talking
2:53:10about? My my court case might be in
2:53:112028. This [ __ ] might be going on for
2:53:13[ __ ] ever. Also, one, two, I wanted
2:53:15to let you know something. We did take
2:53:17your advice and we invested in therapy,
2:53:20which is what you need. No, we invested
2:53:22in Take 2 stock. So, we invested in Take
2:53:252 today actually because we are buying
2:53:27the rumor that they're that that uh May
2:53:2918th they could be releasing the
2:53:31pre-release. So, we are excited about it
2:53:33and we think look I you know I agree
2:53:34with you more than anyone that I think
2:53:36GTA 6 I personally think that Take 2
2:53:38could become a half half a trillion
2:53:39dollar company with how big GTA
2:53:42>> I agree. I I said 10x I said it should
2:53:43be 10x bigger than Roblox. That's what I
2:53:45said.
2:53:46>> I really do believe that. Uh, and I
2:53:48think right now my chat believes that at
2:53:50least the rumor is worth buying and
2:53:51we're not here for a long time, right?
2:53:53So, they're here to try to get like that
2:53:5410% on just a quick buy and hopefully it
2:53:57goes through and bam, they they make
2:53:58their money.
2:53:58>> Well, where's the [ __ ] chart at? Is
2:54:00there is there an
2:54:01>> Do you guys do you guys use any leverage
2:54:02when you trade?
2:54:03>> Like, do you let them use leverage?
2:54:05>> That is a great question. So, no, I
2:54:07didn't. And the reason why I didn't is I
2:54:09wanted them them to learn the
2:54:10fundamentals because I don't want them
2:54:12to get too degenerate. Yep.
2:54:14>> But they also then realized it's my
2:54:16money so they didn't really give
2:54:18>> Look at us moving the market by the way.
2:54:19Look at us moving the market. It was up
2:54:215% Z and since we started the show it's
2:54:23up it's up 7%. Maybe we are getting
2:54:25[ __ ] paid. Surprise [ __ ]
2:54:27>> No look at this. When did GTA When did
2:54:29GTA 5 come out 2016,
2:54:32>> brother?
2:54:32>> Uh yeah, like 10 years ago.
2:54:34>> Come on now.
2:54:36>> The best time to buy this was right
2:54:38before GTA 5 came out.
2:54:40>> Come on, man. I I like I do like the
2:54:42take two thesis. I really do. I do like
2:54:44the take two thesis.
2:54:45>> And I'm I'm [ __ ] telling you guys,
2:54:46listen, the people watching, you can bet
2:54:48your [ __ ] dick that if he likes it
2:54:50and I like it.
2:54:52>> Yeah. It's a weird combo. It's a weird
2:54:54combination of [ __ ] It is.
2:54:55>> Cuz I like it for a totally different
2:54:57reason than he likes it. If his finance
2:54:59tech [ __ ] doesn't [ __ ] with watches,
2:55:02doesn't [ __ ] with Chrome, hates me,
2:55:04hates [ __ ]
2:55:05>> I don't hate you.
2:55:06>> If he likes If he likes it
2:55:08>> and I like it, I don't know.
2:55:09>> Wait, you talking about me or him?
2:55:10>> No. back. No,
2:55:11>> talking about Z.
2:55:12>> No, bro. I know. I know you you said you
2:55:14set up the like the the group for World
2:55:17of Warcraft. Are you planning on doing
2:55:18something similar for like GTA? You
2:55:19think you're going to do something like
2:55:20along those lines?
2:55:21>> You didn't set [ __ ] up in World of
2:55:22Warcraft. That's number one.
2:55:24>> Yes, I did. I LITERALLY SET UP THE
2:55:26ENTIRE THING. I made it. I was
2:55:28>> Brother, you came up with the idea. It
2:55:30was my idea. You sound like [ __ ] Faze
2:55:32Banks, bro. Shut the [ __ ] up.
2:55:34>> It was my idea. And I don't I got
2:55:36everyone together. I literally got me,
2:55:38Chance, Silky, Lacy, Blackboy Max was a
2:55:41mage. I literally got everyone together
2:55:43and I brought them into a Goldshshire in
2:55:45where we collabed and we made the best
2:55:46content group in the entire world.
2:55:49>> The [ __ ] up. You know what? [ __ ] it.
2:55:50>> I believe you, bro. I do.
2:55:52>> FaZe Misk 2026.
2:55:56>> There's phasing and I couldn't stand it
2:55:58because I couldn't see my guild mates.
2:55:59It is something that's very annoying. I
2:56:01agree. We should get rid of FaZe.
2:56:06Oh,
2:56:06>> is there anything else you'd like to
2:56:07talk about?
2:56:08>> Yes. So, let's talk about what we got
2:56:09into this week, which I was going into
2:56:11what Z was talking about leveraging. So,
2:56:14I didn't want my chat to leverage
2:56:15because they are a bunch of gamblers,
2:56:17but they I think to make some serious
2:56:19profit, they did. So, we decided today
2:56:23to get into NVDL, which is a 2x leverage
2:56:26of Nvidia for $52,000.
2:56:30>> Oh, wow.
2:56:31>> Yeah. A big [ __ ] play. The reason why
2:56:34is uh the goat is currently right now
2:56:37the CEO of Nvidia is in China and he is
2:56:40he's hanging out with everybody. He said
2:56:42and I quote this is one of the most
2:56:43important meetings in the history of
2:56:46humanity. So he is saying that this is
2:56:48such an important meeting that's going
2:56:49on and AI is so important that this is
2:56:52something that's going to change
2:56:53humanity and it's change the world. He's
2:56:56also went over there and it is now
2:56:57secured that he has uh he's working with
2:57:00China and 25% of his his uh his work
2:57:04with with Nvidia is going to be through
2:57:05China which is huge because a lot of
2:57:07people thought there was going to be a
2:57:08lot of problem with Nvidia and China and
2:57:10as there was also going into next week
2:57:13the earnings are great supposedly or we
2:57:15hope so. Uh the last 18 out of 20
2:57:17earnings I believe have been green and
2:57:20on earnings on average they go up about
2:57:218%. Also, the last eight consecutive
2:57:24quarters they have been they have beat
2:57:27the earnings. Now, the thing is they
2:57:29beat the earnings every quarter, but
2:57:32will they
2:57:36>> I'm listening, bro. I'm I'm listening.
2:57:38>> No, let's wait for him.
2:57:41>> I think his bl his bladder is just
2:57:43[ __ ] up, I think. I don't know. We
2:57:44might need to get him checked to be
2:57:45honest. I'm not I'm not sure.
2:57:49>> But no, it's a it's a great thesis I was
2:57:51listening to. I think um
2:57:54Nvidia with China is a huge because
2:57:57there's like a lot of restrictions that
2:58:00Trump puts on Nvidia and what they can
2:58:02sell to China, but if they were able to
2:58:03sell like their best GPUs instead of the
2:58:05lower tier ones, which is what it is
2:58:07now, they'll make a lot more money.
2:58:09>> So, it's a great spot. I I agree with
2:58:11you for sure.
2:58:12>> Interesting that you did MVDL, bro. You
2:58:14know, like if you were on Hyperlid, you
2:58:15could do leverage and cap like your your
2:58:18downside. the the ETFs are like limited
2:58:20in what they can provide. The only
2:58:22reason I ask is because I know it's
2:58:23short term. Um, and I I understand like
2:58:25the parameters that you want to give
2:58:27them on like not risking a lot, but I
2:58:30think if you like cap your downside, if
2:58:31you have a stop loss on wherever you
2:58:33want to get out, you could do um some
2:58:34pretty cool things. That's why I asked.
2:58:36>> Well, you could do we could do a
2:58:37trailing stop loss.
2:58:38>> Exactly. Yep.
2:58:39>> Yeah. And that's the plan. Like I mean,
2:58:41for me, look, it's [ __ ] my money.
2:58:42It's whatever. The chat's trying to make
2:58:44some money and try to make this fun. I
2:58:46just want them to learn the fundamentals
2:58:47before they start getting really into
2:58:48deep into leverage because yeah,
2:58:50>> it's my money so yeah, [ __ ] around with
2:58:52it. But I do want them to learn like,
2:58:53hey,
2:58:54>> yeah,
2:58:54>> you are in a current situation right now
2:58:56where the next five years I really do
2:58:58believe is going to determine the rest
2:58:59of people's lives because uh AI and
2:59:02everything else and all that crap and
2:59:03chat's so tired of hearing stuff. But if
2:59:05you capitalize on the now and learn
2:59:08long-term investing, like Trump
2:59:10literally just got leaked today. He's
2:59:12deeply invested in the VU. Like it it's
2:59:14like the guy that's the president who's
2:59:16in with all these companies just is
2:59:18buying the [ __ ] S&P 5.
2:59:19>> We talked we talked earlier in the in
2:59:20the episode. This whole episode
2:59:21basically the the [ __ ] the the topic
2:59:24of the episode has been attention. And
2:59:27um Anom hit us with a [ __ ] bar to
2:59:29kick [ __ ] off. And he said um I think it
2:59:32was it was attention is the new IBIDA.
2:59:34>> Yep.
2:59:35>> And that's a [ __ ] bar, but it's and
2:59:36it's very very real. And we kind of made
2:59:38we kind of drew the same the metaphor
2:59:40that we used was Trump is like the new K
2:59:43is like the top leading stock K and a K
2:59:46in crypto is a key opinion thought
2:59:48leader whatever the [ __ ] like basically
2:59:49influencer crypto influencers are called
2:59:51Koss. So
2:59:53>> yeah but it's it's I mean I I don't
2:59:55think chat's sick of hearing it. I think
2:59:57it's important to [ __ ] drill that
2:59:58into their heads. It's it's like
2:59:59everything that you're doing it's
3:00:00probably the most valuable genuinely and
3:00:02I I mean this with the utmost respect.
3:00:05probably the most valuable content
3:00:06you've ever [ __ ] made is trying to
3:00:08teach people legitimate financial
3:00:10literacy and getting them prepared for
3:00:11these next five ten years. We [ __ ]
3:00:13say it in every intro and it's the
3:00:14entire point of this show.
3:00:16>> Yeah.
3:00:17>> It's like completely in line. It's It's
3:00:19good that you're um that's where your
3:00:20head's at. You know what's interesting
3:00:22to me?
3:00:23>> I want to hear the rest of your Sorry, I
3:00:24don't want to cut you off.
3:00:25>> Yeah. You know, go ahead. Go ahead.
3:00:26>> I wanted to hear the the rest of your
3:00:27the Nvidia thesis.
3:00:30Oh, so uh you know obviously Wednesday's
3:00:33their earnings and that's going to be
3:00:35we're we're excited. We're hoping
3:00:37praying that uh you know I obviously
3:00:40face banks is on his phone right now to
3:00:41buy NVDL leverage. He's excited about it
3:00:44as well and then he brings me on the
3:00:45show to know what to buy next. Uh we are
3:00:47praying that it it it goes well for the
3:00:50because if it does everything in our our
3:00:52our entire portfolio is going to
3:00:54skyrocket and the chat is going to have
3:00:55a [ __ ] fiesta. Uh we also got into uh
3:00:59what else did we get into? We got into
3:01:01electronics a little bit. So we got into
3:01:03this thing called LWLG.
3:01:06And you're not going to believe me on
3:01:07why we got involved in this. So LWLG is
3:01:10a small [ __ ] company. Um I bought
3:01:12them today. We bought them in for
3:01:14$20,000 called Lightwave Logic. You're
3:01:17probably saying, "What the [ __ ] is
3:01:18that?" I don't know. They basically are
3:01:20trying to get rid of copper and use
3:01:22lights and lasers and it's faster and
3:01:25cheaper. uh for the technology.
3:01:28>> They had bad earnings today. So they
3:01:30dropped 18%. But we decided to buy. The
3:01:33reason why we bought is I called the
3:01:35company because I I called I I called
3:01:37them because on Google their their uh
3:01:41their headquarters is basically just a
3:01:43barren store.
3:01:44>> You called them. You called the company.
3:01:47>> Yes. And dude, the woman that picked up
3:01:48was so hot. Like I can't. It's like, you
3:01:51know, when a woman like like like you
3:01:52call her and she just woke up from a nap
3:01:54and she has like that really sexy voice.
3:01:56That's what she had, dude. And it was
3:01:58she laughed at my joke. I told her it
3:02:00looks like a a a Baron TJ Maxx. She
3:02:03laughed and I'm like, "Dude, I'm I'm in
3:02:06love." So now I'm in I'm in with her,
3:02:08right? I actually wanted to invest. My
3:02:10chat only wanted to do 10K, but I put in
3:02:1220 because I'm in love. And uh we also
3:02:15got in with this and I swear to God this
3:02:16is true is there's a guy in my discord
3:02:19named the Jewish guy and he told me that
3:02:21he went to the synagogue and he said
3:02:23that the synagogue told him that it's a
3:02:25goodbye.
3:02:27>> Oh wow. Are are you
3:02:28>> faith man?
3:02:29>> Are you Jewish? Are you Jewish?
3:02:31>> Yes I am Jewish.
3:02:32>> You are Jewish?
3:02:33>> I don't think he actually is. You can't
3:02:34trust a word this kid [ __ ] says
3:02:36Jewish.
3:02:36>> So you're saying you can't trust a
3:02:38Jewish guy? You really want to say that
3:02:39on Twitch? I mean, it's [ __ ] on
3:02:41Twitch, you could say that, you know,
3:02:43women should be prostitutes. Like,
3:02:44>> stop stop.
3:02:46>> But, bro, bro, what one of the actual
3:02:48This is This is funny cuz one of the
3:02:50things we were talking about uh earlier
3:02:52before we started the show, we were
3:02:54talking about how like AI has kind of
3:02:57like taken away, it might take away the
3:02:59purpose that some people have in their
3:03:00lives because their job that they
3:03:02currently have might not be as
3:03:03important. Um, and like as a
3:03:05counterbalance to that, um, I think
3:03:07religion and faith are actually going to
3:03:08do really well over the next few years
3:03:11because I think people are going to go
3:03:12back to them, um, for kind of like a a
3:03:15source of like purpose and truth. And I
3:03:17think it also is going to help with the
3:03:18current um, situation socially with like
3:03:21relationships. I think marriage rates
3:03:23are down, like a lot of the the trends
3:03:24are down, of family structure are down,
3:03:26and religion is kind of like a
3:03:27counterbalance to that. Um,
3:03:28>> yeah, people want hope. I I mean I think
3:03:30a big reason for that is why was our
3:03:32generation so against religion? It's
3:03:35because it was shoved down our throats.
3:03:36But now that we're the parents and now
3:03:38that we're the the people teaching them,
3:03:40we don't teach religion as much.
3:03:43>> And uh
3:03:46because they want to feel some kind of
3:03:48connection and some kind of feeling of
3:03:50tribalism.
3:03:51>> Look at this graph.
3:03:52>> That we just don't have anymore.
3:03:54>> I agree 100% bro. I I I do agree a lot.
3:03:57and
3:03:57>> religion is we had an AI singularity.
3:04:00Yeah.
3:04:00>> Yeah. So, this chart is looking at like
3:04:02the people who I think identify as
3:04:03religious versus the people who don't.
3:04:06And the blue that's what the blue line
3:04:07is. Um and yeah, it's it's it's
3:04:11the blue line or is the
3:04:15Yeah. Virgin versus not Yeah.
3:04:17>> liquid to buy leverage wine companies
3:04:20because obviously if the church is going
3:04:23to start seeing more people, wine should
3:04:25go up in value, right? smart, really
3:04:27[ __ ] smart guy.
3:04:28>> And also, we should get into uh
3:04:31infrastructure companies like wood wood
3:04:33stocks because they have pews. Pews are
3:04:37going to be growing as well, right?
3:04:39>> Pew and want. Yeah, I like it. I like
3:04:42both. I like both thesis.
3:04:44>> See, Chad, there's always money to be
3:04:45made. That's why you got to always think
3:04:46of what what can I do to make money in
3:04:48this situation? And the answer is
3:04:50there's there's usually a way. There
3:04:52there's usually
3:04:52>> there's always a way. There's literally
3:04:54there's literally is always a way. It's
3:04:55interesting because you would assume
3:04:57that markets are up, religion would be
3:04:59down. And I feel like when people are
3:05:00losing money or markets are down,
3:05:02whatever, I feel like that's when you
3:05:04would see religion trend up. I wonder
3:05:06what other examples in history like
3:05:07religion and markets trend up at the
3:05:09same time or trend down at the same
3:05:10time. You would expect
3:05:11>> Well, you know what's actually trending
3:05:12up right now as we speak, John, is the
3:05:14NVDL purchase that they actually did. It
3:05:17is currently up over $1,200 since they
3:05:21purchased it just an hour ago. Nice.
3:05:24>> Let's go.
3:05:25>> They are up $1,200 on the day. So, what
3:05:27is that showing you, Chad? Or what is
3:05:29that showing after hours? That big buy
3:05:31boom right here. It's, hey, we know we
3:05:33still have a lot of room to grow and we
3:05:35are confident. Let's cash out, chat.
3:05:40>> Misgifer,
3:05:42but I I think the reason like you said,
3:05:44religion usually trends would not be
3:05:46trending with markets. I think the
3:05:47reason is like the people who are making
3:05:49a lot of money in markets, it's not
3:05:51everybody. Like there's a lot of people
3:05:52who just don't have the discretionary
3:05:54capital to invest and actually aren't
3:05:56benefiting from all this this AI boom
3:05:57that's currently happened. The economy
3:05:59is in a really strong K shape right now
3:06:01that the people at the top are making a
3:06:02[ __ ] ton of money. The people at bottom
3:06:04are not making a lot of money at all.
3:06:06And we're kind of erasing I think or the
3:06:07the middle class area is like it's a lot
3:06:10a lot more differentiated now than than
3:06:12it was before. But I think that's the
3:06:14main reason why it's not like fully
3:06:16aligned.
3:06:17>> And that's why I think it's best to you
3:06:18know help out the chat as much as I can.
3:06:20Like I I do plan to make this go to a
3:06:22million dollars. Like I would love to
3:06:23get this to $5 million one day. Just
3:06:24like imagine I'm able to make it where
3:06:26chat can literally make money investing
3:06:28with me and I don't care for the money.
3:06:31So they're just making stupid money or
3:06:32or not stupid money, but it's making
3:06:34some money.
3:06:34>> You care for the money, bro. I'm sorry.
3:06:36I have to stop you. Stop. Knock that
3:06:38[ __ ] off.
3:06:39>> No, I don't. I don't.
3:06:41>> Please, man. Please.
3:06:41>> No. No. Listen. I don't care about that
3:06:44money because I make enough money. If I
3:06:46listen, I would care about that money if
3:06:48I wasn't making revenue from that money.
3:06:50But every day I make money from that
3:06:52money, so I don't care. So that money is
3:06:54whatever as long as that money doesn't
3:06:56go to zero, but there's no way my chat's
3:06:57that stupid where they're going to make
3:06:59me lose 400 grand, right?
3:07:02>> I don't think it sounds smart. I mean,
3:07:04they've made some good investments. It
3:07:06seems like they're smart, too.
3:07:07>> I mean, a Twitch chat beat [ __ ]
3:07:08Pokemon, right?
3:07:09>> They they I was there. They they did do
3:07:11that, you know? So, if they can beat a
3:07:14Pidgey on Route Two, they can probably
3:07:16make me
3:07:16>> You never saw this Twitch plays Pokemon.
3:07:18It's one of my favorite [ __ ] like
3:07:20weird little social media experience
3:07:22experiments of all time.
3:07:24>> I love the [ __ ] um what's the game
3:07:26the like global game where you could go
3:07:28catch Pokemon? It was [ __ ] uh
3:07:29>> Pokemon Go.
3:07:30>> Pokemon Go. I love Pokemon Go. That [ __ ]
3:07:32was fun.
3:07:33>> It was It was the best.
3:07:34>> I had a lot of fun with that [ __ ]
3:07:35People [ __ ]
3:07:36>> Yeah, Twitch plays Pokemon was a very
3:07:38good time. I believe it was
3:07:4115 2016 Bitcoin was at $45212.
3:07:45>> Z basically basically they let basically
3:07:47they let the chat
3:07:49>> put the inputs for the game. So like
3:07:50move up, move down, select. So like the
3:07:53chat
3:07:54>> played the game played through the game
3:07:55and it it beat the game. It like went
3:07:57through and beat the game. There's all
3:07:58this like lore around it like like the
3:07:59lineup of of Pokemon and all their see
3:08:02how all their names are [ __ ]
3:08:03[ __ ]
3:08:03>> Yeah. Wait, so how like it just took the
3:08:07inputs as people pushed them
3:08:09immediately. Like every message was a
3:08:10different
3:08:11>> democratized the inputs of the chat.
3:08:12Like if if enough people in the chat
3:08:14voted to move up for the character to
3:08:15move one space up, he would move one
3:08:17space up.
3:08:18>> Yes.
3:08:18>> Or like to switch the Pokemon or
3:08:19whatever.
3:08:20>> It was a good time.
3:08:21>> That's cool.
3:08:21>> It was a It was a good time. Uh I do
3:08:23have to run though, boys, because I have
3:08:24a World of Warcraft raid. I have tier
3:08:26five coming out. Um if you guys don't
3:08:28care about that. Um but
3:08:29>> I care about it.
3:08:31>> Oh yeah, you do. Actually, you do care.
3:08:32Yeah, tier five. We're doing SSC and TK
3:08:34tonight, so I got to go do that.
3:08:36>> I want to see I want to see Anom playing
3:08:38WoW on Misk stream and I want to see
3:08:39Misk trading in this competition on Anom
3:08:42stream. That's what I
3:08:43>> Yeah, I I did get the message chat. So,
3:08:44I'm actually going to put in $25,000 and
3:08:47see if I can beat them uh with
3:08:49>> with content for what you're doing.
3:08:51>> Can I I have a question. Can I have my
3:08:53chat do it with my money and just go
3:08:55buck wild in the dumbest trades?
3:08:57>> 100%, bro. Yeah.
3:08:58>> Okay.
3:08:59>> You can leverage on everything. You can
3:09:00do whatever you want with it. chat. We
3:09:01What if we do 25k dumb [ __ ] where you
3:09:04guys
3:09:05>> Well, don't do dumb [ __ ] Try to win. If
3:09:06your chat,
3:09:07>> by the way, if your chat if your chat
3:09:09beats
3:09:10>> like the most profound
3:09:13>> traders in crypto like who funny as
3:09:16[ __ ]
3:09:16>> It'd be insane. It' be It'd be [ __ ]
3:09:18huge. You know what I mean? So, take big
3:09:20swings and do risky crazy [ __ ] Not dumb
3:09:22[ __ ] though.
3:09:23>> Yes. I think if we get like like what if
3:09:25I Oh, h who won. Oh, a a a chat room of
3:09:29dumb [ __ ] And then how did they win?
3:09:31To a guy named the Jewish guy on Discord
3:09:34who told them what to get from the
3:09:35synagogue. So they listened to him as
3:09:37their almighty leader and picked those
3:09:38stocks.
3:09:39>> They were 10x They were 10x long invidia
3:09:41into earnings.
3:09:42>> Misty, you should get wrapped. You know
3:09:44how they do, you know, they do the rap
3:09:45thing around their arm. You should have
3:09:46them come wrap you and do a whole
3:09:47[ __ ] like prayer before the
3:09:49competition on your
3:09:51>> Oh, like my pray to win. Yeah. Have the
3:09:54[ __ ] pull up.
3:09:55>> How How Jewish are you? like super
3:09:57Jewish. Like
3:09:57>> he's not Jewish.
3:09:59>> I lie. Wait, my friend. I actually don't
3:10:01lie.
3:10:04>> Somebody in the chat. Somebody in the
3:10:06chat. I'll pay you. I'll send you $1,000
3:10:08in Salana if you go clip every single
3:10:11moment in this. You've been on for 30
3:10:13minutes where Misgif lied and tally it
3:10:15up a little in the top right and and
3:10:18share that clip with me. I'll definitely
3:10:20see it. Just just tweet it at
3:10:22marketbubble. I will see it. I will send
3:10:23you $1,000.
3:10:24>> I literally just linked your VOD. Give
3:10:25me a thousand bucks.
3:10:28>> You You have to edit it and clip it. Get
3:10:30the [ __ ] off the show, man. Go have go
3:10:33have Go have fun. No, we love Miz. Miz,
3:10:36thank you for coming on. Um,
3:10:39>> Miz is funny.
3:10:40>> That was Bro, that was super funny.
3:10:42>> He's funny. They're crushing him, too.
3:10:44Like, they're actually doing well.
3:10:45They're
3:10:45>> They're doing all right. 100 bands that
3:10:47he had us both going thinking that he
3:10:49made 100 band.
3:10:50>> I was I was listening like, "Okay,
3:10:51what?" That's why I asked about
3:10:52leverage. Like you had to be levered
3:10:54something like you to make 100 in that
3:10:56quickly. That's [ __ ] scene.
3:10:59>> Uh
3:10:59>> what was that?
3:11:02>> If he feeds him alpha, he should have
3:11:06>> Is he
3:11:07>> What was this?
3:11:08>> He's talking about They're talking about
3:11:09somebody responding to the Twitter.
3:11:14They said they said respect to banks for
3:11:15admitting losses, but I do believe Anom
3:11:17is laring. If he feeds him alpha, he
3:11:19should have made some profit during the
3:11:20past couple years. Well, see the thing
3:11:22is
3:11:23>> who? Me?
3:11:23>> Yeah, you. They're talking about me.
3:11:24>> I have made some profit in the past
3:11:26couple years. Me and you have never
3:11:27talked me and you have never talked
3:11:29about stocks, first of all, before
3:11:31before producing the show.
3:11:32>> I've only ever asked you about your
3:11:34opinion in crypto and it's been a very
3:11:36quiet conversation the last couple
3:11:38years. You haven't had any [ __ ]
3:11:41serious advice for me.
3:11:42>> What is the one? I think I gave you
3:11:43advice once. Didn't I tell you to like
3:11:45hype?
3:11:45>> Sell soul and buy hype. Didn't I tell
3:11:47you to sell? Yes. Yes. I'm just a
3:11:49[ __ ] [ __ ] We also talked about we
3:11:52we talked about Zcash on the call three
3:11:54days before the show was at 400 bucks.
3:11:55You know what I mean? It ran to [ __ ]
3:11:57600 and I was like I was like should I
3:11:59put 500k in here? You're like yeah dude
3:12:01[ __ ] it do it. You don't speak like that
3:12:03and I'm like [ __ ] that really you know
3:12:05what I mean? Like
3:12:06>> whatever. But um
3:12:07>> that's [ __ ] funny bro. Yeah we
3:12:09haven't really talked about markets at
3:12:10all on on other [ __ ] to be honest.
3:12:13>> Once I get a [ __ ] good little system
3:12:15in place we're printing, brother. We're
3:12:17printing. We're [ __ ] hitting the
3:12:19We're hitting the pipe twice on this
3:12:20[ __ ] show, let me tell you.
3:12:21>> For sure.
3:12:22>> We're making We're making money in
3:12:23markets
3:12:24>> for sure.
3:12:24>> We We're We're already up
3:12:26>> Why Why do people The LAR thing is
3:12:28crazy, bro. You tweet 80 [ __ ] times a
3:12:30day.
3:12:32>> You tweet 80 times a day, probably more,
3:12:34and you like overly share your thoughts
3:12:36on [ __ ]
3:12:36>> bro. I think it's funny cuz I I don't
3:12:38even delete anything. Like, when I lose
3:12:40when I lose a lot of money, it's public.
3:12:42Like, they know I lost a lot of money
3:12:43cuz I get clowned for losing a lot of
3:12:45money. I don't even know how people
3:12:46could say I'm It doesn't make sense.
3:12:49>> It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.
3:12:51>> Oh, [ __ ]
3:12:52>> There was something that we talked about
3:12:53though that I want to get closer into.
3:12:54Oh, it was the marriage. It was um
3:12:56>> Oh, the religion and marriage.
3:12:57>> We're seeing religion trend up. And you
3:13:00would think that marriage would
3:13:03>> I think this is it. Yeah. You would
3:13:05think that
3:13:07>> you would think that marriage would be
3:13:08in line.
3:13:09>> Yeah. Yeah. You You would think that
3:13:11marriage would be in line with religion
3:13:13trending up, but it's obviously not.
3:13:15This is crazy. I saw this tweet and I'm
3:13:16like, we have to talk about this.
3:13:18>> God damn.
3:13:19>> Americans married by age 30.
3:13:22>> Yeah.
3:13:22>> Let's just really get into this.
3:13:24>> Yeah.
3:13:24>> N 75 91% women, 81% men. Y
3:13:28>> and as you can see, decade to decade, it
3:13:31is gradually plummeted. The marriage
3:13:34rate has collapsed like fully like from
3:13:39from 81% in men to 16.5% by 30. That's
3:13:45[ __ ] insane. People used to own
3:13:47houses, be married, and be on their
3:13:48third kid by 30. And it's
3:13:51>> Damn.
3:13:51>> It's being phased out of existence, bro.
3:13:53The fall off from 15 2015 to 2025 is
3:13:56[ __ ] insane.
3:13:57>> Yeah. We got to get married, bro.
3:13:59>> Neither of I mean, we are the stat, by
3:14:01the way. I'm 34. I'm not married. You're
3:14:03[ __ ] How old are you? 32. 31.
3:14:05>> And you're not married either. It's
3:14:07[ __ ] crazy.
3:14:09>> It is interesting, though. I mean, we
3:14:10talked about it a lot, like the [ __ ]
3:14:12um the [ __ ] um impact of social media
3:14:16and all this stuff, like the the
3:14:18difference in how both genders both have
3:14:20jobs now and women aren't as dependent
3:14:22on men now has affected stuff a lot. Um
3:14:25people have a lot more options. Like
3:14:27there's a ton of stuff that affected
3:14:29>> I actually lived with Mike. There was a
3:14:30there was a tweet I thought this would
3:14:32be funny to share because Trader Mine
3:14:34>> Yeah.
3:14:35>> is obviously a friend of the show. He
3:14:36was supposed to come on as well. Um, and
3:14:39he said, "Unbelievable levels of cope
3:14:41was his response to this clip, but let's
3:14:42watch the clip."
3:14:43>> Comes at you really fast. You go from 20
3:14:45to 30 to 40 very quickly. I didn't I
3:14:48didn't intend on all this happening so
3:14:50quickly.
3:14:50>> And a lot of times when you get older,
3:14:52especially in the world that we live in
3:14:54now where people aren't connecting in
3:14:55the same way they used to. The new
3:14:56social norms is your best friend is your
3:14:58phone. People aren't dating the same way
3:15:00they are. They're not looking at
3:15:01relationships the same way. The birth
3:15:02rate is down. The the divorce rate is
3:15:04up. The marriage rate is down. um you'll
3:15:06start seeing people adventuring more.
3:15:08You'll start seeing people connecting to
3:15:10old hobbies more and staying in touch
3:15:11with the things that they love to do all
3:15:12the way into their late ages. And so
3:15:15it's been tough being like a trailblazer
3:15:17for that and being like somebody in
3:15:18their 40s who has just not wanted to do
3:15:21that. I've just not been called to
3:15:23settle down and go behind a white picket
3:15:25fence and get a rocking chair and just
3:15:28and and bleed into the darkness. I want
3:15:30to [ __ ] squeeze every ounce of life
3:15:32out of this, dude. I want to adventure.
3:15:34I want to see the world. I want to
3:15:35travel. I want to get to know everybody
3:15:37and help as many people as I can.
3:15:39>> And clearly a lot of other people agree
3:15:42with that or in in line in some way,
3:15:44shape, or form with that. I think the
3:15:45biggest takeaway from this clip and the
3:15:47kind of unlock for me was your phone's
3:15:49your best friend.
3:15:50>> Yeah, that's true.
3:15:50>> Which is like the bar. It's like and I
3:15:52think about I'm I'm like I'm seeing this
3:15:55girl and you know, we spent a lot of
3:15:57time just side by side in bed on our
3:15:59phones scrolling. you know, like a
3:16:01little phone time. And I'm sure that's a
3:16:02very common thing for people. But like
3:16:04that didn't exist for a long long long
3:16:06time, like for, you know, the
3:16:08overwhelming majority of human history.
3:16:10And now like I don't know that coupled
3:16:12with the fact that like social media and
3:16:14the internet in general just feeds you
3:16:16this crazy like view of options like
3:16:19what seems like endless options or like
3:16:21I don't know I know a lot of people
3:16:23experience like just being dissatisfied
3:16:25with where they're at in life or just
3:16:27wanting to be somewhere else somewhere
3:16:28that they're not you know and like I
3:16:30don't know it's [ __ ] it's obviously
3:16:32having a [ __ ] horrible adverse
3:16:35effect on marriage and the way people
3:16:37are dating. Obviously, the incel rates
3:16:38up. This is just totally in line with
3:16:40like just dating being [ __ ]
3:16:42absolutely fried. It's insane.
3:16:44>> It Yeah, I I think it's because like the
3:16:46the social norms change so quickly that
3:16:49people like haven't had time to respond
3:16:51to how different relationships are now.
3:16:53I think if you find somebody that you're
3:16:55aligned with what it it looks like and
3:16:57what you want to rely on them for and
3:16:58like those conversations just have to be
3:17:00pretty transparent. But a lot of people
3:17:02rely on social media to feed whatever
3:17:04their inputs are. And so they aren't
3:17:05having those like conversations with
3:17:07people about what they actually want out
3:17:09of relationships. Cuz before it was
3:17:10pretty straightforward. It was like the
3:17:11man makes the money, woman's relying on
3:17:13the man for this, you get married to
3:17:14have kids. It was pretty
3:17:16straightforward. But now it's like not
3:17:17as as straightforward. Maybe marriage is
3:17:19a broken structure anyway. Maybe maybe
3:17:21it's just a backwards way of approaching
3:17:22like life and building some sort of
3:17:24family in 2026 because I mean people are
3:17:27obviously falling off of it. I think
3:17:29that what's the fix in my mind and I' I
3:17:33I've had this conversation before. It
3:17:34wasn't in line with what we're talking
3:17:35about now, but I've kind of always
3:17:37thought about life in terms of like
3:17:39obviously I'm 34. I would love to have a
3:17:40family. I would love to be married, you
3:17:42know. Um but I have a certain lit
3:17:44checklist and a criteria of the type of
3:17:46person that I'm looking for. First and
3:17:47foremost, I want to identify the
3:17:50qualities in a woman that I would find
3:17:52in a really good mother. Like that is my
3:17:54first and foremost thing. Like
3:17:55non-starter above all else, is this
3:17:57woman going to be a great mom? And when
3:18:00I feel like I've identified that,
3:18:01because the next girl that I date, the
3:18:03next girl that I call my girlfriend, I'm
3:18:04at that age where it's like we're just
3:18:05we're having kids, like we're starting a
3:18:07family. And I feel like that approach is
3:18:09like a little bit more it's a smarter
3:18:12angle to take rather than like let's get
3:18:15married, go down that route and then
3:18:16talk about having kids, you know, cuz
3:18:18that's typically the
3:18:19>> No, that's dumb. Doesn't make sense. You
3:18:21got to I agree with you. I'm agreeing
3:18:23with what you're saying.
3:18:23>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I in my mind I'm
3:18:26just like traditionally the the order of
3:18:29operation is you you the the way people
3:18:31fall in love and start families and get
3:18:32married is it starts in lust, right? You
3:18:35meet a girl and you're [ __ ] like, "Oh
3:18:36my god, this [ __ ] is bad. I [ __ ]
3:18:38love this girl. I'm obsessed with her."
3:18:39You consume her like a drug. You think
3:18:40about her non-stop. You're obsessed all
3:18:42day. You guys [ __ ] all day. That's the
3:18:45energy. It's very fiery. It's It's
3:18:47fresh. It's new. And it's all rooted in
3:18:48like
3:18:49>> your physical attraction to them and
3:18:51just that very drugfueled almost like
3:18:53manic like connection that you have with
3:18:55somebody. Lust, right? Fiery, whatever.
3:18:57Explosive. That's typically how [ __ ]
3:18:59starts, right? And then you settle into
3:19:01this like best friend dynamic,
3:19:03partnership almost dynamic where that
3:19:06settles down a little bit, kind of
3:19:07plateaus out, calms down. Um, you go
3:19:09from [ __ ] 10 times a day to [ __ ]
3:19:11you know, once or twice a day. And this
3:19:13is your best friend. They know
3:19:14everything about you and they're your
3:19:16just, you know, they're your partner in
3:19:17life, which changes the whole dynamic.
3:19:19You got to survive that dynamic now,
3:19:21too, right? And then the the the next
3:19:24leg up is marriage where you go and
3:19:26promise somebody forever, let's be
3:19:28together forever. You got to keep in
3:19:29mind too, we change so dramatically as
3:19:32human beings. Like I am a totally
3:19:33different person now than I was 5 years
3:19:35ago, right? And the girl that I'm with
3:19:37or seeing, she could say the same. And
3:19:39the same will be true 5 years from now.
3:19:40So it's a little bit naive also to think
3:19:42especially with all these moving pieces,
3:19:44social media, so much happening, so many
3:19:46options that like this girl five years
3:19:50from now and myself 5 years from now are
3:19:52going to be just as compatible. It's
3:19:55going to work the same. We're going to
3:19:56be just as much in love and this this
3:19:57marriage is going to work. I think it's
3:19:58just naive to like take such a big
3:20:01[ __ ] swing on that or a bet on that
3:20:03and then you're supposed to have kids
3:20:04after that, right? And obviously this
3:20:06these dynamics change the way that we
3:20:07behave with each other through the whole
3:20:09thing. So it's like when kids is the
3:20:11last part of the conversation and
3:20:13marriage is the first, it's like how the
3:20:14[ __ ] do you get there?
3:20:15>> Yeah.
3:20:16>> It's no wonder why like you know what
3:20:17I'm saying? Like the fall off. Whereas
3:20:19like I don't know. I think that like I'm
3:20:21going to have very early conversations
3:20:22with the mother of my kids of like, yo,
3:20:24like I think that we would make
3:20:26incredibly tall, attractive, intelligent
3:20:30babies and I think that you'd be a
3:20:32[ __ ] great mom
3:20:33>> for X, Y, and Z reasons, you know, and
3:20:34this is the role that I want to play in
3:20:35it and this role that I I want you to
3:20:37play in it. And yeah, of course, like,
3:20:39>> you know, in in good faith, you want it
3:20:40to work and like if we can be together
3:20:42forever, storybook ending, awesome. But
3:20:44in the event that it doesn't also like
3:20:46you're really like I don't know you're
3:20:48setting yourself up for like the least
3:20:51potential failure I think because in the
3:20:53event where like you you start the
3:20:55relationship in that way it makes it
3:20:57infinitely more easy to down the road if
3:20:59it doesn't work between you guys it
3:21:01wasn't rooted in lust or ego or any of
3:21:03that superficial [ __ ] It's like you're
3:21:05going to be a great dad. I'm going to be
3:21:06a great mom. Let's build a [ __ ]
3:21:07amazing family. And in the event that we
3:21:09don't work out, I could still sit at
3:21:10[ __ ] Christmas dinner with you and
3:21:12your new husband and have a great
3:21:13relationship with him because he's
3:21:15involved in our kids' lives and we just
3:21:16build a [ __ ] really successful
3:21:17family.
3:21:18>> I don't know.
3:21:19>> I know I just kind of went off, but
3:21:20>> dang. That's the most I think that's the
3:21:21most cogent take you've had so far. That
3:21:23was that was great.
3:21:25>> Well, if I know one thing, chat, it's
3:21:27[ __ ] hoes. I'm just kidding. I'm just
3:21:29kidding. I'm just kidding.
3:21:30>> No, bro. I'm not actually true. I I
3:21:32mean, it's very true. So I think the
3:21:34core reason for marriage is like
3:21:35building a family like building the
3:21:37generations after you. For sure. I I
3:21:38definitely agree with all that.
3:21:40>> Um but yeah, bro, 60% though is nuts.
3:21:44What the [ __ ] Why was
3:21:46>> and you know the pessimistic take it's
3:21:48like how do we solve this? What's the
3:21:49fix? Like dating incel all the way up,
3:21:51right? The rates are [ __ ]
3:21:53skyrocketing. Dating is fried. It's
3:21:55cooked. Everybody experiences this. And
3:21:57we've already kind of like pinpointed
3:21:58the reason being people are very
3:22:00disconnect very much disconnected
3:22:01physically from each other. They're on
3:22:03screens, they're online, um they're not
3:22:05developing properly socially. Um
3:22:08obviously Only Fans, porn, social media,
3:22:10etc. Like there's way too many cheap
3:22:12quick fixes to fill that gap, fill that
3:22:15urge and that need
3:22:17>> um that are like more artificial and
3:22:19take away from like dating. And
3:22:21obviously like the dating market with
3:22:22social media and [ __ ] has is fried for a
3:22:24million different reasons. We we know
3:22:26this and I think that while people are
3:22:29expecting AI to cook it even further, I
3:22:32actually think genuinely and I I'm
3:22:34pretty pessimistic when it especially
3:22:36when it comes to like the next, you
3:22:37know, 5 10 years as far as AI. I
3:22:40actually think AI could be the final
3:22:43solution to dating.
3:22:44>> Really?
3:22:44>> How?
3:22:45>> I do. I just think like in line with how
3:22:47I use AI, right? It's um like what do I
3:22:52I'm asking it to build kind of a [ __ ]
3:22:55like a profile on me and what my
3:22:56interests are and like how I like to
3:22:58live my life and like I I expect
3:23:00eventually AI to understand me better
3:23:02than me
3:23:03>> understand and I be able to identify
3:23:04preferences that I might have
3:23:06>> that I didn't even know I had. kind of
3:23:08what I'm getting at is like imagine
3:23:10Tinder had a baby with [ __ ] claw and
3:23:13like it just like built a real time
3:23:16>> profile about you and and you give it
3:23:18access to your emails, the way you spend
3:23:20money, your career, your interest, what
3:23:22you do in a day-to-day, what you like to
3:23:23eat, where you like to travel, your
3:23:25[ __ ] religious beliefs, your physical
3:23:27biases and preferences. Again, you
3:23:30probably really are able to identify or
3:23:32accept or admit to like 10% of what I'm
3:23:34describing, right? where it could have a
3:23:37whole total 100% view and then it like I
3:23:39think there was a Black Mirror episode
3:23:41about this where it like
3:23:42>> kind of like shuffles through and
3:23:43filters through potential perfect
3:23:45matches and it like with data and stats
3:23:49tells you like hey in your [ __ ] 100
3:23:51mile radius this girl Rebecca in Orange
3:23:54County is literally your soulmate.
3:23:55there's a 100% guarantee that you guys
3:23:58are gonna get along and laugh together
3:24:00and love and this is and we just know it
3:24:02and here you go and then you meet
3:24:03Rebecca and you're like even if it's
3:24:05only even if they're only 70% of the way
3:24:07there and you're with this girl for
3:24:09[ __ ] you know a year and you're
3:24:10you're dating you're there you know like
3:24:12I don't I don't know
3:24:13>> I think it's a really good idea but bro
3:24:15might need uh to build that start
3:24:17working with with clog code or codeex
3:24:19one of them and get to work on it it's a
3:24:20it's a good idea
3:24:22>> I think this This is
3:24:25>> Yeah, this is like kind of in line with
3:24:26obviously like AI [ __ ] girlfriends
3:24:29only fans. People are really like grim
3:24:30and [ __ ] I think people would read a
3:24:32headline like this too and be like [ __ ]
3:24:34like that's that's dark. Like you know
3:24:37imagine a girl [ __ ] dumps you and you
3:24:39just can have AI recreate her and just
3:24:40continue that relationship without her.
3:24:42>> That's crazy.
3:24:42>> It's really sick. It's really really
3:24:44sick. It is. It is dark. But I mean, if
3:24:47it's able to do that, if it's capable to
3:24:48do that, it's it it has to be just as
3:24:52just as um well equipped and capable of
3:24:54like actually finding, you know, a
3:24:56meaningful connection between two real
3:24:58people, which I think I don't think
3:24:59you'll ever be able to replace that. You
3:25:00know what I mean? Like,
3:25:02>> yeah, that's true.
3:25:04>> I don't know. It's an interesting topic.
3:25:05I I think it's um Yeah.
3:25:14Yeah. It sounds like um it's kind of
3:25:16like a Black Mirror episode, but it's
3:25:18definitely
3:25:18>> There is literally a Black Mirror. I
3:25:19think it's called Hang the DJ. I'm
3:25:21seeing that. Um I don't have any clips
3:25:23on it, but
3:25:25AI Tinder episode. Maybe we watch that.
3:25:27Everybody at home, you guys should go
3:25:28watch that. You guys should run through
3:25:29Black Mirror if you've never seen Black
3:25:31Mirror.
3:25:31>> We use the term Black Mirroresque a lot.
3:25:34It's interesting because Black Mirror
3:25:35came out in I think 2011. So, it's been
3:25:37there's been like a substantial amount
3:25:39of time between its release and today,
3:25:4115 years. Try to if you're old enough. I
3:25:44know there's probably a lot of younger,
3:25:45you know, I know we're [ __ ] old as
3:25:47dirt over here, but if you're like
3:25:49closer to closer to me in age, try to
3:25:51remember where you were at when that
3:25:52show came out
3:25:54>> and like how dystopian it felt and how
3:25:56like it's we're here. We're there, you
3:25:59know? We're 15 years in the future from
3:26:01when that show came out. And it's it's
3:26:02it's Black Mirror, bro.
3:26:04>> Yeah. A lot of the [ __ ] that people
3:26:06thought would never even happen, it's
3:26:07like currently literally happening. It's
3:26:09pretty crazy.
3:26:10>> I think we're about to hit the 4 hour
3:26:12mark. Exactly. Damn. Four
3:26:15>> production. How many seconds until four
3:26:16minutes or four hours?
3:26:19>> 10 seconds.
3:26:20>> 10 seconds.
3:26:20>> Four.
3:26:21>> Give me a countdown.
3:26:25>> Five.
3:26:29>> That was a Silky. That was me farming a
3:26:31Silky clip.
3:26:32>> I think I saw somewhere him him ending
3:26:34streams at at four hours. See, brother,
3:26:36I'm a fan, bro.
3:26:37>> I'm a fan.
3:26:39>> Did it just hit the 4 hour mark?
3:26:41>> I think so. Yeah. What's that for?
3:26:48>> What the [ __ ]
3:26:49>> So stupid.
3:26:51>> I don't even know if that's the right
3:26:52clip. I don't even know. Came up with
3:26:54that [ __ ] on the fly. Maybe I am a
3:26:55streamer. [ __ ] it. Maybe I am. Maybe I
3:26:58should stream every day. Maybe we should
3:26:59scale this show to every day. I think
3:27:00the [ __ ] people need it, bro.
3:27:03>> Brother, I love this show. Episode
3:27:05three. This is going to be the [ __ ]
3:27:07the one that we If you want to know what
3:27:09Market Bubble is, just watch this VOD,
3:27:11bro. I I I think
3:27:12>> this was good. This It was
3:27:13>> This was [ __ ] awesome, bro. This This
3:27:15episode was awesome. And honestly, we
3:27:16had every reason and everything happen
3:27:19to make it not great. We had
3:27:21>> We had some along the way. We did.
3:27:24>> We We had the two original guests bail
3:27:26last minute
3:27:27>> and it's not on them. Like there was
3:27:29emergencies. Trader man, we [ __ ] love
3:27:31you. Eric, we would love to have you on
3:27:32obviously next week and follow through
3:27:34with that. But this is [ __ ] this
3:27:36feels great. This was a lot of fun and
3:27:38definitely like a a great conversation.
3:27:40Yeah. No, definitely. I like
3:27:43>> anything. Miz is a Miz got to be like a
3:27:46little funny little side character.
3:27:47>> We're like blending the world right now.
3:27:49There's like the
3:27:51>> We're literally blending it. We're
3:27:52literally blending them in real time
3:27:53with like the crypto crypto world and
3:27:55then we have like the streamer
3:27:57>> pick Twitch and we're blending them
3:27:58together. I think it's going to be cool
3:27:59to have them in the comp.
3:28:01>> Um like we talked about a little bit on
3:28:03the last show. We've actually got a lot
3:28:05of signups so far. A lot of the It's
3:28:07funny a lot of the comments people put
3:28:08for like why they want to be in the
3:28:09comp, they like don't [ __ ] with me or
3:28:11think they're a better trader than me.
3:28:12So, I think that's hilarious. Um, but
3:28:14yeah, we're going to start that next
3:28:16week. Um, sign up 25K to sign up to 25K
3:28:20and then the winner is going to get 100K
3:28:22and it's going to run for four weeks.
3:28:23So, we're doing that. We're also doing
3:28:26um another comp actually right now on
3:28:28it's actually live on Bulpin right now.
3:28:30Um, so this competition with trade
3:28:33paragon, they're also a um a platform
3:28:36that trades the HIPP3 markets on
3:28:38Hyperlquid. And so right now you can
3:28:41trade others uh which is like others
3:28:42alts dominance, you can trade Bitcoin
3:28:44dominance um and you can trade like a
3:28:48few different indices um on the platform
3:28:50and the winner of this competition is
3:28:51going to get 25K. So this is currently
3:28:53going on right now on Bullpen. Um
3:28:55they're actually adding some cool
3:28:56markets too. They're adding I think a
3:28:58H100 market like to track the the
3:29:01compute prices of how much people are
3:29:03spending on compute. So they're doing
3:29:04some cool stuff. Shout out to Paragon.
3:29:06Um yeah, we [ __ ] with them. They're
3:29:07they're dope.
3:29:08>> Amazing.
3:29:08>> Yeah.
3:29:10>> And that's that about wraps it up. I do
3:29:11want to plug the Twitter really quick.
3:29:13It's really important. This is kind of
3:29:14where we're,
3:29:16>> you know, congregating as a as a as a
3:29:18community. We're actually live on the
3:29:19Twitter on this Twitter. Also, how many
3:29:22>> 1800 viewers on the on the native
3:29:23Twitter? What's yours at right now?
3:29:25>> Let's see. Mine is uh
3:29:27>> Hey, there we go. 10K.
3:29:30>> Nice
3:29:31>> little 10k ting.
3:29:32>> 10k ting.
3:29:32>> Um yeah, we just hired a we just hired
3:29:34an intern, too. Um someone native to CT.
3:29:37I don't know if we want to talk about
3:29:38him or not yet or he wants to he's going
3:29:40to run the Twitter. Um and and we like
3:29:42him, but we're taking it Yeah, we're
3:29:44taking it a little bit more um a little
3:29:46bit more seriously and just and just
3:29:48kind of building this world for you
3:29:49guys. Again, I really like the idea of
3:29:50like bringing in Miz Closer and like I
3:29:52like he wants to create this like Caleb
3:29:55Hammer style content IP. Maybe it could
3:29:57just live on this set and and be a part
3:29:59of this some way.
3:30:00>> That would be that's funny content and
3:30:02it's cool. Um and it's just natural. Um
3:30:05but yeah, follow the Twitter. I think
3:30:06the Discord is important as well. You've
3:30:08been updating the Discord on your
3:30:09trades.
3:30:10>> No. Yeah, I need to do that. I will do
3:30:11that though. I'll
3:30:12>> So from here here Yeah, from here until
3:30:14next week. We'll get we'll get better
3:30:15with that. But yeah, Discord and uh
3:30:18mainly the Twitter. Follow the Twitter,
3:30:20engage with the tweets. Um, we're going
3:30:21to start bringing up people from the
3:30:22community. We want to talk to you guys.
3:30:24We want to talk about your ideas, get
3:30:25your feedback on the show, and again,
3:30:27like the overall vision for this is
3:30:30eventually, um, being able to like
3:30:33invest in people and ideas and markets
3:30:36live and add some sort of element to
3:30:38that and just expand on this idea and do
3:30:40it in more and more entertaining wi ways
3:30:42and ramping up production. I think again
3:30:44there's a massive gap in this market for
3:30:46that. And who better than me? I got 15
3:30:48years of experience. If there's one
3:30:49thing I can contribute to this [ __ ]
3:30:51amazing thing that we're building, it's
3:30:53I feel like it's that. Um, but on that
3:30:55note, you have anything else to say, Z?
3:30:57>> I think that's it, man.
3:30:58>> All right, I will take us out then,
3:31:00guys. Thank you so much for watching.
3:31:03This was awesome. This felt really,
3:31:04really good. I'm [ __ ] excited for
3:31:06next week. Um, and yeah, listen, I if if
3:31:09I have to say it 100,000 more times, I'm
3:31:11going to um we're not slowing down.
3:31:14We're we're ramping this [ __ ] up if if
3:31:16anything. Um, as of now, we are live
3:31:18every Thursday at 1 PM PST on
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3:31:22Everybody watching on Twitch right now,
3:31:24please hit follow. Um, you don't ever
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3:31:28to donate. Um, I don't care about ads
3:31:30and none of that [ __ ] I just I'm I'm
3:31:32happy and grateful that anybody cares to
3:31:33watch. Um, and that means the world. And
3:31:36yeah, we'll be live every single
3:31:38Thursday, 1 p.m. PST on this Twitch
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3:31:42Market Bubbles Twitter as well. stay
3:31:44engaged. Um, and and tell your friends,
3:31:46tell your friends to come watch VOD
3:31:48episode three because I think there's a
3:31:49lot of a lot of substance here and this
3:31:51is a very very valuable platform and
3:31:53very valuable show. I'm super grateful
3:31:55that this is where we're at on episode
3:31:56three and I feel [ __ ] amazing and
3:31:58hopefully you guys um enjoyed the
3:32:00episode. This has been Banks. Z loves
3:32:02you. I love you. Invest in yourself.
3:32:04It's the best. It's the best bet you can
3:32:06you can make. Peace and love. That's it.
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