How To Find Your Purpose - Alex Hormozi x Tony Robbins — Transcript

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1. 0:00I have an apathy issue. I'm okay with
2. 0:02that.
3. 0:02>> But you're torn by it, my friend.
4. 0:03>> No, agreed.
5. 0:04The reason you're not happy is the mind
6. 0:06is leading you. Take the astronauts. I
7. 0:08got to interview several of them, right?
8. 0:10Think of that. They went out and they
9. 0:11competed. They had They wanted to be an
10. 0:13astronaut, right? You had a version of
11. 0:15that. I want to be a business owner,
12. 0:16whatever it was you had, right? And they
13. 0:17beat everybody, right? Tens of thousands
14. 0:20of people. They got down to 100, down to
15. 0:2125, down to six, down to the guys that
16. 0:23go to the moon, right? And they walk on
17. 0:25the moon, they look back and see that
18. 0:26image. You and I have seen it. They took
19. 0:27blue-green of the of the Earth, but that
20. 0:29wasn't them seeing it. And they make it
21. 0:31back and survive. They splash down. They
22. 0:34have a ticker-tape parade. They shake
23. 0:35the president's hand.
24. 0:37Now, what the do you do after you've
25. 0:39walked on the moon for adventure? Like
26. 0:41like you're 35 and you've walked on the
27. 0:43moon. What do you do?
28. 0:45At 36 years old, you built such a
29. 0:47foundation of business, of of
30. 0:49contribution, of wealth, of your body,
31. 0:52that at this stage, it shouldn't be
32. 0:54pain. It shouldn't be suffering. I don't
33. 0:55think it has to be any of those things.
34. 0:56I think it's can be total joy. But you
35. 0:59have to kind of rewire your brain
36. 1:00because otherwise that past training
37. 1:02conditions you. I mean, how many people
38. 1:03do you know that were rich and famous
39. 1:06and the world loved and like themselves.
40. 1:09Yeah.
41. 1:10>> [snorts]
42. 1:10>> Cuz they stopped growing. And most of
43. 1:12them became alcoholics and drug
44. 1:14addicted. Yeah.
45. 1:15And the reason is they forgot how to
46. 1:17find that joy or that adventure and a
47. 1:19smile. Mhm. And so you have trained
48. 1:22yourself to be pain equals success and
49. 1:25success has a certain amount of value,
50. 1:27but screw happiness. You have literally
51. 1:29hypnotized yourself into missing it
52. 1:31because you weren't feeling fulfilled.
53. 1:32The only thing that makes us feel alive
54. 1:33is growth. You know, when you grow, then
55. 1:36you have something to give. And when you
56. 1:38give, then your life is more meaningful
57. 1:39than just, you know, pleasure. You
58. 1:41money, food, alcohol, sex, whatever it
59. 1:43is, you know? But it's never going to be
60. 1:45the same as when you have something
61. 1:46that's larger than you that you're
62. 1:48called to. I think the biggest problem
63. 1:49we have as human beings is that we think
64. 1:51we shouldn't have any. Mhm. It's like
65. 1:53problems make you grow. Problems call to
66. 1:56you because Listen, you live We're both
67. 1:57in good shape. You wouldn't be there if
68. 1:59you lifted light weights and did 100
69. 2:01curls with some lightweight, right?
70. 2:03You're built. You've built this body.
71. 2:04You built it by challenging it. But,
72. 2:07some people, maybe because of your
73. 2:08background in the fitness industry, no
74. 2:11pain, no gain. But, today we know that's
75. 2:12not true. You know, that we know today
76. 2:14that it's minimum dose will produce the
77. 2:16maximum result. You want to If you
78. 2:17overdo it, you tear down too much,
79. 2:19right? It's like finding the right dose,
80. 2:21just like anything else, like a drug for
81. 2:23somebody. If you think you're going to
82. 2:24just go off and enjoy your life and not
83. 2:26add value, you're going to be diluted.
84. 2:28You're going to be frustrated.
85. 2:31How do you see the dichotomy between
86. 2:33[music] duty and enjoyment?
87. 2:36So, duty
88. 2:38could be a good word, like if
89. 2:39[clears throat] you're seeing yourself
90. 2:40like a soldier,
91. 2:41>> Yeah. right? But, I don't look at it
92. 2:42that way. I look at it as opportunity. I
93. 2:45don't feel a sense of duty. I feel a
94. 2:46sense of joy Yeah. in being able to
95. 2:49contribute. To me, contribution is what
96. 2:51we're made for. Mhm. Like, it's not hard
97. 2:53to meet your own needs as a human being,
98. 2:54right? Right. Not that difficult today
99. 2:56in the world we're in today. But, to
100. 2:57have a fulfilling life, you have to have
101. 2:59a something you care about more than
102. 3:00yourself. Yeah. And so, if you get into
103. 3:02a business just to make money, and
104. 3:03there's nothing wrong with that,
105. 3:04>> Yeah. those people usually, you know,
106. 3:06even if they succeed, they hit a limit
107. 3:08of fulfillment because the economic
108. 3:11returns only produce so much. Yeah. So,
109. 3:13I don't look at duty and enjoyment. I
110. 3:15look at it as more like it's all
111. 3:16enjoyment because contribution is the
112. 3:18ultimate enjoyment for me. I mean, I get
113. 3:20into business for impact, and economics
114. 3:22are second. If I have enough impact,
115. 3:24you'll never have to worry about
116. 3:25economics in your life. And I found that
117. 3:27to be true in my own life. There's two
118. 3:28types of motivation, if you don't think
119. 3:29of it that way. There's push motivation,
120. 3:31which is, let's say, duty, Yeah. or I've
121. 3:34got to do this, or I have to do or
122. 3:35obligation, right? Pull motivation is
123. 3:38where there's something out there that
124. 3:39you want to serve more than yourself,
125. 3:41that'll get you up early, keep you up
126. 3:42late, and it it it isn't hard. It isn't
127. 3:45duty. It is like what I'm made for.
128. 3:47Yeah. When you tap into that, your
129. 3:50energy level will explode, your
130. 3:52contribution will explode, will give you
131. 3:54the constant endurance to move forward
132. 3:56in a way in which you enjoy your life
133. 3:58rather than someday when I get to this
134. 3:59number then I'm slowly going to feel
135. 4:01good. To me it's not duty, but I do
136. 4:03believe those much is given much is
137. 4:06expected. But
138. 4:07>> of the whole book. Oh, really? I I come
139. 4:09from that place too, but
140. 4:10but to me the expectation is a pleasure.
141. 4:13The difficulty that I have is finding
142. 4:15enjoyment outside of work. Mhm. And
143. 4:18[music]
144. 4:18the contribution from that perspective.
145. 4:20Like I've I've spoken to a number of
146. 4:21billionaires yourself included where I
147. 4:23I'm like
148. 4:25the next game. They were like, you
149. 4:26should do something that like really
150. 4:27helps people. And I was like, I I feel
151. 4:30like I do that. That is probably a
152. 4:32struggle that I have dealt with which is
153. 4:33that I have a
154. 4:35I have an apathy issue. When I got in
155. 4:36the fitness industry, I got into it
156. 4:38because fitness was the only thing I was
157. 4:39really into and so I was like, well,
158. 4:40I'll do something I love cuz I was a
159. 4:41management consultant. I was like, well,
160. 4:42this sucks. I'm going to do something I
161. 4:43love. And then as soon as I got into the
162. 4:45business of fitness, I realized that the
163. 4:46vast majority of my day had nothing to
164. 4:47do with fitness at all and it was like
165. 4:49billing and, you know, membership sales
166. 4:51and like all this other stuff. And when
167. 4:53I started getting the testimonials
168. 4:54coming in of these people who were going
169. 4:55through, you know, our process, losing
170. 4:57weight, getting off medications, [music]
171. 4:58whatever. Maybe the first couple months
172. 4:59it felt like something, but then on like
173. 5:01the hundredth and the thousandth, I was
174. 5:02like, well, yeah, you know, of course
175. 5:03you stopped you moved better and you
176. 5:05stopped eating and it worked out,
177. 5:07you know.
178. 5:08You know, like it just it's basically
179. 5:09the the the magic was gone.
180. 5:11>> The reason you're not happy is the mind
181. 5:13is leading you. Get in your head, you're
182. 5:14dead. Yep. You can execute with your
183. 5:16mind so well. You recognize, I'm sure
184. 5:19like I do pattern systems. You know how
185. 5:21to put them in place, get it done, but
186. 5:23then there's not the emotional
187. 5:24connection. You need a moon shot or two
188. 5:26and you need to get connected to the
189. 5:28people and see and feel the impact in a
190. 5:30new variety because otherwise it's the
191. 5:32law of familiarity. Yep. You get around
192. 5:34anything enough, no matter how good it
193. 5:36is, you start taking a little bit for
194. 5:37granted. And and that's just human
195. 5:40nature, that's not you. So you have to
196. 5:42wake it up and you got to get
197. 5:43associated. So what I try to say to you
198. 5:45is uh stop this screw happiness thing.
199. 5:47[music] Yeah. And just actually say to
200. 5:49yourself, no. I deserve happiness, I'm
201. 5:52going to create happiness, but I have to
202. 5:53do it differently than I've done it
203. 5:54before. I can't just get up and just
204. 5:56work some train to work. I can't I'm not
205. 5:58a robot anymore.
206. 6:00>> Yeah. Right? You're way too smart and
207. 6:01you got way too big a heart. I know you
208. 6:03do. It's you're not connected to it and
209. 6:04you don't have something that you're
210. 6:06obsessed about that makes you feel fully
211. 6:08alive. You're doing it cuz you need to.
212. 6:11The difference between have to, duty
213. 6:13>> Mhm. and get to Yeah. That's the
214. 6:15difference between rich and poor. And
215. 6:17rich and poor is not money.
216. 6:19Rich and poor is feeling fully alive.
217. 6:21That's rich, right? Poor is you work
218. 6:23your ass off and you have plenty of
219. 6:24money and you help all kinds of people,
220. 6:26but you don't connect it. Your energy
221. 6:28has got to be shifted. You need a kick
222. 6:29in the ass. You need to get an
223. 6:31environment where you're on fire.
224. 6:33>> Yeah. And then at that state, you've had
225. 6:36that state before, I guarantee you when
226. 6:37you got here. But then you got so caught
227. 6:39up in the push. Mhm. I think you've
228. 6:41missed some of the pull for your life.
229. 6:42And I And I think this is not just true
230. 6:44of you, it's true of most of us. Why are
231. 6:46most people stressed? Mhm. Like if you
232. 6:48talk to people like successful people,
233. 6:50they're always telling me I'm so
234. 6:51stressed. I'm stressed. Yeah. I'll tell
235. 6:52you why you're stressed, cuz you're
236. 6:53managing all these great businesses,
237. 6:54you're managing all this great money.
238. 6:55You're But you know what? When you
239. 6:57manage
240. 6:57puts you back in survival. Are you going
241. 6:59to tell me it's more stressful today
242. 7:00than the Dark Ages? I mean, come on. But
243. 7:03what's happened is we have all this
244. 7:04we're trying to manage and we're not
245. 7:05made to manage.
246. 7:07>> Mhm. You've You've been so successful
247. 7:09that now you've hit a set point. And now
248. 7:11the only way that set point is people
249. 7:13get to a point where they question and
250. 7:14they start going is it worth it or not?
251. 7:16But I I have to keep doing it. No,
252. 7:18sometimes you would make a point you
253. 7:19say, no, I'm going to keep doing what
254. 7:21I'm doing, but I'm going to be connected
255. 7:22to it at a different level or I'm going
256. 7:24to change paths all together. I'm going
257. 7:25to add a path that brings another
258. 7:27dimension to me. Those are the places to
259. 7:28go. Passion comes from the Latin passio,
260. 7:31right? Yes. Uh which means suffering or
261. 7:32to endure.
262. 7:33>> Yeah, and And so that made
263. 7:35actually a tremendous amount of sense
264. 7:36for me. And so I actually reframed that
265. 7:39whole concept as like find a goal worth
266. 7:40suffering for. A goal worth suffering
267. 7:42for. I mean, I don't I don't have goals
268. 7:44that I'm worth suffering for. No, don't
269. 7:46get me wrong. You're not Every day is
270. 7:48not like pure bliss, and there's lots of
271. 7:50things that I know I love to do that I
272. 7:52need to do to succeed, or I got to deal
273. 7:53with. That's part of life. But, pain is
274. 7:55part of life. Suffering's an option.
275. 7:57You've heard that phrase, but it's a
276. 7:58fact. It's not just a phrase. That's why
277. 8:00you've heard it so much. But, when you
278. 8:02make it your goal to find a goal worth
279. 8:04suffering for, you're going to suffer,
280. 8:06right? And so, it's in your language.
281. 8:08>> I got my wish. You got your wish. And
282. 8:10what's happened is this part of you is
283. 8:11so strong, brother.
284. 8:14This part of you is, too, but this is
285. 8:15the lead right now. If you change the
286. 8:17lead to here by that sense of connection
287. 8:20and everything else, and get the hell
288. 8:21out of your head, cuz your brain is
289. 8:23always going to reduce things. It's like
290. 8:25your brain will never make you happy.
291. 8:26That's the problem.
292. 8:27>> Yeah. Get out of your head, get into
293. 8:28your heart.
294. 8:29>> Yes. I love the language. I don't
295. 8:30[music] understand what it means.
296. 8:31>> Cuz the brain reduces everything, and
297. 8:33compares it. Whereas, the heart
298. 8:36magnifies everything. It takes the
299. 8:38little things and makes them bigger. You
300. 8:39tell a lie big enough, loud enough, long
301. 8:41enough, sooner or later people believe
302. 8:42you. You've told yourself a lie true
303. 8:44happiness.
304. 8:45>> Mhm. No. Screw suffering. Mhm. Like, I
305. 8:48want to engage enjoyment. It's not my
306. 8:50duty, it's my gift. It's my honor. It's
307. 8:53my opportunity. It's it's grace that has
308. 8:56put me in this place in my life.
309. 8:59The words you attach to your
310. 9:00experiences, I said, become your
311. 9:02experience. I call it transformational
312. 9:03vocabulary. And so, your words Yeah.
313. 9:06shape your psychology.
314. 9:08And so, a few word changes, as stupid as
315. 9:10that sounds, as overly simplistic as
316. 9:12that sounds, or people give metaphors.
317. 9:14They'll say, "Oh, man, I'm like I'm
318. 9:16like, you know, like I'm at the END OF
319. 9:17MY ROPE." AND I'LL GO, "WELL, set it
320. 9:18down and come over here."
321. 9:20What are you talking [laughter] about?
322. 9:21We hypnotize ourselves. But, the words
323. 9:23escalated the emotion. And once they're
324. 9:25there as a metaphor or as words,
325. 9:27linguistics change how the brain
326. 9:29functions. And so, part of yours is some
327. 9:32simple linguistics, but the other part
328. 9:34is state. So, I know the word passion
329. 9:36literally comes from pain. I know that
330. 9:37too. And sometimes we get up on the
331. 9:39original definition versus how we can
332. 9:41live it. Right?
333. 9:42>> [music]
334. 9:43>> Thanks so much, Tony. I appreciate it.
335. 9:45No, thank you, brother. Thank you.