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How To Build Muscle While Running? — Transcript

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  1. 0:00have you not seen the body of a marathon
  2. 0:02runner skinny hardly any muscle in
  3. 0:05comparison look at the physiques of
  4. 0:07those who lift weights and so if your
  5. 0:09goal is to build muscle and you run well
  6. 0:11say goodbye to all your gains only that
  7. 0:15is a myth
  8. 0:18[Music]
  9. 0:21coach Greg running and lifting weights
  10. 0:23blasphemy
  11. 0:25when the right mind would do it if you
  12. 0:27want to build an impressive physique and
  13. 0:29you're running well you can't do it
  14. 0:31after all have you not seen the body of
  15. 0:34a marathon runner Skitty hardly any
  16. 0:36muscle in comparison look at the
  17. 0:39physiques of those who lift weights and
  18. 0:41so if your goal is to build muscle and
  19. 0:43you run well say goodbye to all your
  20. 0:45gains only that is a myth and in today's
  21. 0:49video I'm going to be responding to Alan
  22. 0:51thrall who made a video saying running
  23. 0:53and lifting weights you can do both but
  24. 0:56being a channel that calls out the BS
  25. 0:58I'm going to be honest I'm going to
  26. 1:00explain exactly under what circumstance
  27. 1:02you can do both and not build muscle and
  28. 1:04also under what circumstances you can't
  29. 1:07and so in today's video you're going to
  30. 1:09learn what kind of running you can do
  31. 1:10how long can you do it how hard can you
  32. 1:13do it what circumstances will you lose
  33. 1:15muscle and what circumstances will you
  34. 1:17in fact gain muscle you can lift weights
  35. 1:20every day for the rest of your life and
  36. 1:22never look like this not even close well
  37. 1:25the same goes for runners you could run
  38. 1:27every day and still never look like this
  39. 1:29guy exactly it really boils down to your
  40. 1:31genetics if you have a lot of fast
  41. 1:33switch fibers and you run all the time
  42. 1:35you're still not going to look like a
  43. 1:37marathon runner and to the opposite
  44. 1:38extent if you have mostly slow twitch
  45. 1:40fibers and all you do is lift weights
  46. 1:42well you're never going to make it to
  47. 1:44the Olympia stage now are you and so
  48. 1:46speaking from experience I did Triathlon
  49. 1:49training for 13 years started competed
  50. 1:52my first competition the age of 13 did
  51. 1:54it all the way out every single year
  52. 1:55until I was 26. I combined swimming
  53. 1:58cycling and running while lifting
  54. 2:00weights all at the same time and during
  55. 2:03this process I made gains both in size
  56. 2:06and strength every single year not only
  57. 2:09that I won national titles in both
  58. 2:11bodybuilding and powerlifting while also
  59. 2:14setting National records and competing
  60. 2:17in triathlons all at the same time I
  61. 2:19wasn't quite as good as a triathlons was
  62. 2:21able to get third place at the
  63. 2:23provincial level in comparison was
  64. 2:25winning national titles in the other two
  65. 2:26but you can see clearly you can improve
  66. 2:30at both at the same time if you really
  67. 2:33want to and I'm not saying this to brag
  68. 2:35I'm saying it because obviously if I
  69. 2:37could do it then you can do it and so
  70. 2:40don't think that if you start lifting
  71. 2:42weights and doing cardio that you won't
  72. 2:44be able to build any muscle that if you
  73. 2:45start joggling it's going to tear away
  74. 2:47at all the muscle on your body it's
  75. 2:50going to make it harder to build muscle
  76. 2:51of course but I'm not going to lie to
  77. 2:54you it's going to slow down the rate of
  78. 2:57muscle building you will not build as
  79. 2:58much muscle as quickly if you're doing a
  80. 3:01ton of cardio rubbing every single
  81. 3:03day as if you were not lifters also have
  82. 3:06this silly belief that running is just
  83. 3:08too stressful on the joints and so
  84. 3:10here's the thing a lot of people say
  85. 3:11well running it's hard on your joints
  86. 3:12well soul is power lifting so is lifting
  87. 3:15weights you don't think doing set after
  88. 3:17set of squats and deadlifts and lifted
  89. 3:20heavier than last time is going to
  90. 3:22damage your joints of course it will and
  91. 3:24to the same extent a soul is running
  92. 3:26both can be hard on the joints if you
  93. 3:29overdo it clearly if you're running a
  94. 3:31hundred miles it's going to be
  95. 3:32excessively difficult to build muscle
  96. 3:34but to the same extent what if you're
  97. 3:36training five hours a day in the gym
  98. 3:37every single day you're going to over
  99. 3:40train stop demonizing exercise and stop
  100. 3:43making up absolute claims about the
  101. 3:45harms of activity that's all this really
  102. 3:47is exactly and so no matter what you do
  103. 3:49it's physical activity whether it's
  104. 3:51running swimming cycling elliptical
  105. 3:53skiing going to the gym squatting bench
  106. 3:56pressing it's all movement and the more
  107. 3:59movement you do the more demands it
  108. 4:01places on the body and so if all you do
  109. 4:03is lift weights and you suddenly start
  110. 4:04running 10 miles a day then of course
  111. 4:07you're going to lose muscle it's too
  112. 4:09much activity movement you can't recover
  113. 4:12and repair by suddenly doing so much
  114. 4:14when you first start jogging you have to
  115. 4:16go easy ease into it Progressive
  116. 4:20overload and so long as you do it slow
  117. 4:22enough and it doesn't make you sore you
  118. 4:24can of course do this cardio lift the
  119. 4:26weights and recover and repair now you
  120. 4:28certainly don't have to run you can swim
  121. 4:30ride a bike row or do some other form of
  122. 4:33lower intensity cardio but if you want
  123. 4:35to run and continue lifting weights do
  124. 4:38it now if you're an advanced trainer and
  125. 4:39you have a ton of muscle and you
  126. 4:41suddenly start running it most certainly
  127. 4:43is going to diminish your ability to bad
  128. 4:45muscle probably going to lose some but
  129. 4:48if you're a complete newbie first time
  130. 4:50in the gym and you start running you
  131. 4:52will most likely add muscle because
  132. 4:54remember this any form of activity
  133. 4:57movement is going to Signal the body to
  134. 5:00repair and recover and so if you're a
  135. 5:02couch fitted and you go outside and
  136. 5:03start jogging walking going up and down
  137. 5:06Hills the legs are thinking what are you
  138. 5:08doing well if you're going to keep
  139. 5:10running we better build and get bigger
  140. 5:12and stronger in order to allow you to do
  141. 5:14that again now of all forms of cardio
  142. 5:16running is perhaps the most detrimental
  143. 5:19in terms of your ability to add muscle
  144. 5:20why because there is a large eccentric
  145. 5:24load on the muscle with every step you
  146. 5:26take you're quite literally leaping into
  147. 5:28the air and landing on one leg if you're
  148. 5:31200 pounds you jump in the air land
  149. 5:33perhaps there's four or 500 pounds
  150. 5:35Landing every single time that is a lot
  151. 5:37of wear and tear in the body and so the
  152. 5:40eccentric load being so great is going
  153. 5:42to cause the body to get sore in
  154. 5:44comparison other forms of cardio have
  155. 5:46less us eccentric load for example when
  156. 5:49I ride a bike I'm not pounding my knees
  157. 5:51it's a smooth circular motion which I
  158. 5:54can handle and allows me to do this
  159. 5:56without getting terribly sore I can go
  160. 5:58and raise a bike for over an hour not
  161. 6:00really get that sore and so if you want
  162. 6:02to do both running and lifting weights
  163. 6:04you most certainly can but if you want
  164. 6:06to maximize muscle hypertrophy build the
  165. 6:08most amount of muscle that you possibly
  166. 6:10can it would be more advisable to choose
  167. 6:12a form of cardio with less
  168. 6:14weight-bearing less strain on the body
  169. 6:17and so for me I choose cycling it allows
  170. 6:20me to go for longer periods of cardio
  171. 6:22without hurting me in the gym been doing
  172. 6:24this for years literally been racing
  173. 6:26bikes again for four years Doing Hard
  174. 6:29cardio and do I look like a marathon
  175. 6:32runner and of course yes I'm on HRT 140
  176. 6:35milligrams a week but I certainly don't
  177. 6:37think that if someone should start
  178. 6:38cycling and doing weights at the same
  179. 6:40time that their muscles are simply going
  180. 6:42to melt away I've seen cyclists who are
  181. 6:44100 natural with my much larger quads
  182. 6:47than code grade and larger than even
  183. 6:49many professional bodybuilders the
  184. 6:51interference effect is a reduction in
  185. 6:53the rate of your strength and
  186. 6:54hypertrophy gains when adding endurance
  187. 6:56training to a resistance program is this
  188. 6:58something you should be afraid of and so
  189. 7:00he brings up the interference effect and
  190. 7:01I 100 agree and so the further you've
  191. 7:04gone in your training the more muscle
  192. 7:05you have the greater this effect is
  193. 7:07going to be however to the opposite
  194. 7:09extent if you're a complete newbie the
  195. 7:11interference effect that's not really
  196. 7:13going to hinder your gains remember
  197. 7:14doing cardio that is a stimulus to build
  198. 7:17muscle and so if you start running
  199. 7:19biking and so on and lifting weights at
  200. 7:22the same time you're going to get the
  201. 7:24benefits of both Federal activity
  202. 7:26guidelines recommend that adults do at
  203. 7:28least 150 minutes of aerobic exercise
  204. 7:31per week plus muscle strengthening
  205. 7:34exercises two or more days per week and
  206. 7:37as far as longevity and health is
  207. 7:38concerned if you want the biggest bang
  208. 7:40for your buck the lowest risks were
  209. 7:42associated with those that do both and
  210. 7:45so if you want to be the most healthy
  211. 7:46live the longest have the fewest amount
  212. 7:49of diseases you should be doing both
  213. 7:50cardio and lifting weights there is no
  214. 7:54significant interference effect for
  215. 7:55untrained subjects nor is there any
  216. 7:58interference effect when trained
  217. 7:59subjects split their endurance and
  218. 8:01resistance training into separate
  219. 8:03sessions and so the key thing to
  220. 8:04remember is what you need to do to
  221. 8:06optimize both is to split them apart if
  222. 8:09you go and do a five mile run and then
  223. 8:11lift weights right after or lift weights
  224. 8:14and then go for a five mile run it's too
  225. 8:16much it's over training and so the
  226. 8:18advice is to split out your workouts and
  227. 8:21so what do I do well for example today
  228. 8:23I'm racing bike 43 kilometers yesterday
  229. 8:26what did I do full body workout and so
  230. 8:29if you separate that hard cardio session
  231. 8:31from the weights that you're doing you
  232. 8:33can benefit more so from both and trust
  233. 8:36me if you see what I look like after
  234. 8:38racing 43 kilometers if I went to the
  235. 8:40gym and tried to work out after it ain't
  236. 8:42happening would have no energy it would
  237. 8:44obviously be a detriment to my ability
  238. 8:46you build muscle I doubt that many of
  239. 8:48you are doing 10 squats running a half
  240. 8:49mile then immediately doing another 10
  241. 8:51squats so this is probably nothing to
  242. 8:53worry about exactly the interference
  243. 8:55effect can be minimized now if you go
  244. 8:57into aerobic training a couple times per
  245. 8:59week for 30 minutes or less it's
  246. 9:01probably not going to have a big effect
  247. 9:02on your strength and so the key really
  248. 9:04is don't overdo it ease into it if
  249. 9:07you're just lifting weights right now
  250. 9:08not doing any cardio don't start out by
  251. 9:10running 30 minutes every single day it's
  252. 9:13too much it most certainly is going to
  253. 9:15hurt your gains but if you start out
  254. 9:16with a fast walk perhaps jog a little
  255. 9:18bit and you do it sparingly away from
  256. 9:20your weightlifting workout it's not
  257. 9:22going to diminish your gains but don't
  258. 9:24get carried away don't start thinking
  259. 9:26that you can train through a marathon
  260. 9:28like Nick bear and have all that muscle
  261. 9:30while doing 10 to 30 hours of cardio a
  262. 9:33week eventually you're over train and
  263. 9:36you will in fact lose muscle if you're
  264. 9:38out there and you're trying to train for
  265. 9:39a marathon while also trying to get
  266. 9:41bigger and stronger you will improve
  267. 9:43cardiovascular fitness and you will
  268. 9:44improve strength and muscle growth but
  269. 9:46that strength and muscle growth will be
  270. 9:47attenuated and so if you had a set of
  271. 9:49twins then all one did was lift weights
  272. 9:51and the other one lifted weights and did
  273. 9:53a little bit of cardio they're gonna
  274. 9:54have about the same amount of muscle but
  275. 9:56if one lift weights and the other trains
  276. 9:58for marathons going crazy doing 20 mile
  277. 10:01runs then absolutely the guy doing all
  278. 10:04that running is going to have smaller
  279. 10:06gains but if you want to have the best
  280. 10:08of both worlds you can not quite as much
  281. 10:12as either or you're not going to look
  282. 10:13like Phil Heath or Chris bumpstead but
  283. 10:15you're also not going to look like a guy
  284. 10:17who can run a marathon in close to two
  285. 10:19hours and so if you do both you can get
  286. 10:21approximately 80 percent of the gains of
  287. 10:23Either Ore and to me that is great is it
  288. 10:26not worth it to sacrifice a couple extra
  289. 10:28pounds to live on this Earth longer to
  290. 10:30have better cardiovascular endurance to
  291. 10:32feel better about yourself like adding
  292. 10:34anything new start small light and slow
  293. 10:37do something at or below which you can
  294. 10:40tolerate and very slowly add intensity
  295. 10:43or volume and so in my own personal
  296. 10:44experience when I started bike riding I
  297. 10:47only rode 15 minutes at a slow pace and
  298. 10:49what I noticed is my legs were sore and
  299. 10:51what I did was gradually over time when
  300. 10:53I got used to it I added in a little bit
  301. 10:55more time I never went harder I just
  302. 10:57went longer pretty soon I was doing 30
  303. 11:00and 45 minute rides with the same
  304. 11:02intensity as used for 15 minutes I was
  305. 11:04becoming more fit becoming a better
  306. 11:06butter burner and once you get used to
  307. 11:09that and you can ride for an extended
  308. 11:10period of time and you're not sore then
  309. 11:12at that time well go harder see how much
  310. 11:15further you can go and not all at once
  311. 11:17just a little bit harder it doesn't take
  312. 11:20much for your body to adapt if you give
  313. 11:22it a little bit more incentive to grow
  314. 11:24to become more fit it's going to when I
  315. 11:26started running I was very active and I
  316. 11:28spent a lot of time on my feet every day
  317. 11:31I averaged 20 000 steps per day now
  318. 11:33consider this he added in one and a half
  319. 11:35miles of running a day but all he did
  320. 11:37was convert some of those steps he was
  321. 11:38doing into running steps the guy was
  322. 11:40doing 20 000 steps a day that is a lot
  323. 11:43but if you're a sedentary individual
  324. 11:44perhaps only doing three to 5000 steps a
  325. 11:47day don't start by jogging a mile and a
  326. 11:49half that's way too much way too hard
  327. 11:51perhaps just start by walking more just
  328. 11:54go for a walk brisk walk down the road
  329. 11:56all you need to do is be more active and
  330. 11:59your body will get used to them
  331. 12:00eventually you can then add in some
  332. 12:02jogging and if you're really truly
  333. 12:04scared about losing your muscle perhaps
  334. 12:06you're a competitive bodybuilder and you
  335. 12:08just can't take that risk everyone else
  336. 12:10you should be able to try if you are
  337. 12:12that worried well try cycling the
  338. 12:14elliptical stepper incline walk take
  339. 12:17away the running the pounding that
  340. 12:18eccentric load and there is no reason
  341. 12:20you can't perform cardio look at the
  342. 12:23most built Jack guys in the world almost
  343. 12:26all of them are doing hours and hours of
  344. 12:29cardio week they're doing it to burn fat
  345. 12:32to get shredded for the Olympia but they
  346. 12:34choose to do cardio because they know
  347. 12:35it's not going to tear down all their
  348. 12:36muscles and so not only is it not bad to
  349. 12:38do cardio it's good it's literally going
  350. 12:41to help you to recover and allow you to
  351. 12:43train harder than last time maybe
  352. 12:45running helps you lose some weight by
  353. 12:47being more active personally I think
  354. 12:48that that's more important than whether
  355. 12:50or not your squat is 275 pounds or 295
  356. 12:54pounds and so Alan thrall is simply
  357. 12:56encouraging you to get out there and
  358. 12:58doing cardio I love guys who promote
  359. 13:00cardio because all too often Fitness
  360. 13:02YouTubers are saying you can't run if
  361. 13:04you go and do cardio you lose all your
  362. 13:06gains or I lost all this weight with no
  363. 13:09cardio as if cardio is bad love guys
  364. 13:11that promote cardio that encourage you
  365. 13:14to do it and so please go check out his
  366. 13:16video check out alanthrall guys
  367. 13:18encouraging you to lift weights do
  368. 13:19cardio this is a great this is a great
  369. 13:22message also 150 minutes of cardio week
  370. 13:25try to lift your entire body twice a
  371. 13:27week if you can do that well you've got
  372. 13:29it made hope you enjoyed the video
  373. 13:31ending it here looking for harder than
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