How reliable is your memory? | Elizabeth Loftus — Transcript
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- 0:12I'd like to tell you about a legal case that I worked on
- 0:16involving a man named Steve Titus.
- 0:20Titus was a restaurant manager.
- 0:23He was 31 years old, he lived in Seattle, Washington,
- 0:27he was engaged to Gretchen,
- 0:29about to be married, she was the love of his life.
- 0:32And one night, the couple went out
- 0:34for a romantic restaurant meal.
- 0:37They were on their way home,
- 0:39and they were pulled over by a police officer.
- 0:42You see, Titus' car sort of resembled
- 0:45a car that was driven earlier in the evening
- 0:49by a man who raped a female hitchhiker,
- 0:52and Titus kind of resembled that rapist.
- 0:56So the police took a picture of Titus,
- 0:59they put it in a photo lineup,
- 1:01they later showed it to the victim,
- 1:03and she pointed to Titus' photo.
- 1:06She said, "That one's the closest."
- 1:09The police and the prosecution proceeded with a trial,
- 1:13and when Steve Titus was put on trial for rape,
- 1:16the rape victim got on the stand
- 1:19and said, "I'm absolutely positive that's the man."
- 1:23And Titus was convicted.
- 1:26He proclaimed his innocence,
- 1:28his family screamed at the jury,
- 1:30his fiancée collapsed on the floor sobbing,
- 1:33and Titus is taken away to jail.
- 1:37So what would you do at this point?
- 1:40What would you do?
- 1:42Well, Titus lost complete faith in the legal system,
- 1:46and yet he got an idea.
- 1:48He called up the local newspaper,
- 1:50he got the interest of an investigative journalist,
- 1:53and that journalist actually found the real rapist,
- 1:58a man who ultimately confessed to this rape,
- 2:01a man who was thought to have committed 50 rapes
- 2:05in that area,
- 2:06and when this information was given to the judge,
- 2:09the judge set Titus free.
- 2:12And really, that's where this case should have ended.
- 2:16It should have been over.
- 2:17Titus should have thought of this as a horrible year,
- 2:20a year of accusation and trial, but over.
- 2:24It didn't end that way.
- 2:26Titus was so bitter.
- 2:28He'd lost his job. He couldn't get it back.
- 2:31He lost his fiancée.
- 2:33She couldn't put up with his persistent anger.
- 2:36He lost his entire savings,
- 2:38and so he decided to file a lawsuit
- 2:41against the police and others whom he felt
- 2:43were responsible for his suffering.
- 2:45And that's when I really started working on this case,
- 2:50trying to figure out
- 2:52how did that victim go from
- 2:54"That one's the closest"
- 2:56to "I'm absolutely positive that's the guy."
- 3:00Well, Titus was consumed with his civil case.
- 3:04He spent every waking moment thinking about it,
- 3:07and just days before he was to have his day in court,
- 3:11he woke up in the morning,
- 3:13doubled over in pain,
- 3:15and died of a stress-related heart attack.
- 3:18He was 35 years old.
- 3:21So I was asked to work on Titus' case
- 3:26because I'm a psychological scientist.
- 3:28I study memory. I've studied memory for decades.
- 3:32And if I meet somebody on an airplane --
- 3:35this happened on the way over to Scotland --
- 3:37if I meet somebody on an airplane,
- 3:39and we ask each other, "What do you do? What do you do?"
- 3:42and I say "I study memory,"
- 3:44they usually want to tell me how they have trouble remembering names,
- 3:47or they've got a relative who's got Alzheimer's
- 3:50or some kind of memory problem,
- 3:52but I have to tell them
- 3:54I don't study when people forget.
- 3:58I study the opposite: when they remember,
- 4:01when they remember things that didn't happen
- 4:03or remember things that were different
- 4:05from the way they really were.
- 4:07I study false memories.
- 4:12Unhappily, Steve Titus is not the only person
- 4:16to be convicted based on somebody's false memory.
- 4:21In one project in the United States,
- 4:24information has been gathered
- 4:26on 300 innocent people,
- 4:30300 defendants who were convicted of crimes they didn't do.
- 4:34They spent 10, 20, 30 years in prison for these crimes,
- 4:39and now DNA testing has proven
- 4:42that they are actually innocent.
- 4:45And when those cases have been analyzed,
- 4:47three quarters of them
- 4:49are due to faulty memory, faulty eyewitness memory.
- 4:55Well, why?
- 4:56Like the jurors who convicted those innocent people
- 5:00and the jurors who convicted Titus,
- 5:02many people believe that memory
- 5:04works like a recording device.
- 5:06You just record the information,
- 5:08then you call it up and play it back
- 5:11when you want to answer questions or identify images.
- 5:14But decades of work in psychology
- 5:16has shown that this just isn't true.
- 5:20Our memories are constructive.
- 5:22They're reconstructive.
- 5:24Memory works a little bit more like a Wikipedia page:
- 5:27You can go in there and change it, but so can other people.
- 5:32I first started studying this constructive memory process
- 5:37in the 1970s.
- 5:40I did my experiments that involved showing people
- 5:44simulated crimes and accidents
- 5:47and asking them questions about what they remember.
- 5:50In one study, we showed people a simulated accident
- 5:54and we asked people,
- 5:56how fast were the cars going when they hit each other?
- 5:58And we asked other people,
- 6:00how fast were the cars going when they smashed into each other?
- 6:04And if we asked the leading "smashed" question,
- 6:07the witnesses told us the cars were going faster,
- 6:10and moreover, that leading "smashed" question
- 6:14caused people to be more likely to tell us
- 6:17that they saw broken glass in the accident scene
- 6:20when there wasn't any broken glass at all.
- 6:24In another study, we showed a simulated accident
- 6:27where a car went through an intersection with a stop sign,
- 6:30and if we asked a question that insinuated it was a yield sign,
- 6:35many witnesses told us they remember seeing a yield sign
- 6:39at the intersection, not a stop sign.
- 6:43And you might be thinking, well, you know,
- 6:45these are filmed events,
- 6:46they are not particularly stressful.
- 6:48Would the same kind of mistakes be made
- 6:51with a really stressful event?
- 6:54In a study we published just a few months ago,
- 6:57we have an answer to this question,
- 6:59because what was unusual about this study
- 7:02is we arranged for people to have a very stressful experience.
- 7:07The subjects in this study
- 7:10were members of the U.S. military
- 7:12who were undergoing a harrowing training exercise
- 7:17to teach them what it's going to be like for them
- 7:19if they are ever captured as prisoners of war.
- 7:23And as part of this training exercise,
- 7:26these soldiers are interrogated in an aggressive,
- 7:29hostile, physically abusive fashion for 30 minutes
- 7:34and later on they have to try to identify
- 7:37the person who conducted that interrogation.
- 7:40And when we feed them suggestive information
- 7:44that insinuates it's a different person,
- 7:47many of them misidentify their interrogator,
- 7:51often identifying someone who doesn't even remotely
- 7:55resemble the real interrogator.
- 7:58And so what these studies are showing
- 8:00is that when you feed people misinformation
- 8:04about some experience that they may have had,
- 8:07you can distort or contaminate or change their memory.
- 8:13Well out there in the real world,
- 8:15misinformation is everywhere.
- 8:18We get misinformation
- 8:19not only if we're questioned in a leading way,
- 8:22but if we talk to other witnesses
- 8:25who might consciously or inadvertently feed us
- 8:28some erroneous information,
- 8:30or if we see media coverage about some event we might have experienced,
- 8:35all of these provide the opportunity
- 8:37for this kind of contamination of our memory.
- 8:42In the 1990s, we began to see
- 8:46an even more extreme kind of memory problem.
- 8:50Some patients were going into therapy with one problem --
- 8:53maybe they had depression, an eating disorder --
- 8:56and they were coming out of therapy
- 8:59with a different problem.
- 9:02Extreme memories for horrific brutalizations,
- 9:05sometimes in satanic rituals,
- 9:07sometimes involving really bizarre and unusual elements.
- 9:12One woman came out of psychotherapy
- 9:15believing that she'd endured years
- 9:17of ritualistic abuse, where she was forced into a pregnancy
- 9:21and that the baby was cut from her belly.
- 9:24But there were no physical scars
- 9:26or any kind of physical evidence
- 9:28that could have supported her story.
- 9:31And when I began looking into these cases,
- 9:34I was wondering,
- 9:35where do these bizarre memories come from?
- 9:38And what I found is that most of these situations
- 9:42involved some particular form of psychotherapy.
- 9:47And so I asked,
- 9:49were some of the things going on in this psychotherapy --
- 9:52like the imagination exercises
- 9:55or dream interpretation,
- 9:57or in some cases hypnosis,
- 10:00or in some cases exposure to false information --
- 10:03were these leading these patients
- 10:06to develop these very bizarre,
- 10:09unlikely memories?
- 10:12And I designed some experiments
- 10:14to try to study the processes that were being used
- 10:19in this psychotherapy so I could study
- 10:22the development of these very rich false memories.
- 10:26In one of the first studies we did,
- 10:28we used suggestion,
- 10:30a method inspired by the psychotherapy we saw in these cases,
- 10:34we used this kind of suggestion
- 10:36and planted a false memory
- 10:38that when you were a kid, five or six years old,
- 10:41you were lost in a shopping mall.
- 10:44You were frightened. You were crying.
- 10:46You were ultimately rescued by an elderly person
- 10:49and reunited with the family.
- 10:51And we succeeded in planting this memory
- 10:53in the minds of about a quarter of our subjects.
- 10:57And you might be thinking, well,
- 10:59that's not particularly stressful.
- 11:02But we and other investigators have planted
- 11:05rich false memories of things that were
- 11:08much more unusual and much more stressful.
- 11:11So in a study done in Tennessee,
- 11:13researchers planted the false memory
- 11:16that when you were a kid, you nearly drowned
- 11:18and had to be rescued by a life guard.
- 11:21And in a study done in Canada,
- 11:23researchers planted the false memory
- 11:26that when you were a kid,
- 11:27something as awful as being attacked by a vicious animal
- 11:30happened to you,
- 11:32succeeding with about half of their subjects.
- 11:35And in a study done in Italy,
- 11:38researchers planted the false memory,
- 11:40when you were a kid, you witnessed demonic possession.
- 11:45I do want to add that it might seem
- 11:48like we are traumatizing these experimental subjects
- 11:51in the name of science,
- 11:53but our studies have gone through thorough evaluation
- 11:58by research ethics boards
- 12:00that have made the decision
- 12:02that the temporary discomfort that some
- 12:05of these subjects might experience in these studies
- 12:08is outweighed by the importance of this problem
- 12:12for understanding memory processes
- 12:15and the abuse of memory that is going on
- 12:18in some places in the world.
- 12:22Well, to my surprise,
- 12:25when I published this work and began to speak out
- 12:28against this particular brand of psychotherapy,
- 12:32it created some pretty bad problems for me:
- 12:36hostilities, primarily from the repressed memory therapists,
- 12:41who felt under attack,
- 12:43and by the patients whom they had influenced.
- 12:46I had sometimes armed guards at speeches
- 12:49that I was invited to give,
- 12:51people trying to drum up letter-writing campaigns to get me fired.
- 12:55But probably the worst
- 12:57was I suspected that a woman
- 13:00was innocent of abuse
- 13:02that was being claimed by her grown daughter.
- 13:05She accused her mother of sexual abuse
- 13:09based on a repressed memory.
- 13:11And this accusing daughter had actually allowed her story
- 13:13to be filmed and presented in public places.
- 13:17I was suspicious of this story,
- 13:19and so I started to investigate,
- 13:22and eventually found information that convinced me
- 13:26that this mother was innocent.
- 13:28I published an exposé on the case,
- 13:31and a little while later, the accusing daughter
- 13:35filed a lawsuit.
- 13:36Even though I'd never mentioned her name,
- 13:39she sued me for defamation and invasion of privacy.
- 13:43And I went through nearly five years
- 13:46of dealing with this messy, unpleasant litigation,
- 13:52but finally, finally, it was over and I could really
- 13:56get back to my work.
- 13:58In the process, however, I became part
- 14:01of a disturbing trend in America
- 14:04where scientists are being sued
- 14:06for simply speaking out on matters of great public controversy.
- 14:10When I got back to my work, I asked this question:
- 14:14if I plant a false memory in your mind,
- 14:16does it have repercussions?
- 14:18Does it affect your later thoughts,
- 14:20your later behaviors?
- 14:22Our first study planted a false memory
- 14:24that you got sick as a child eating certain foods:
- 14:27hard-boiled eggs, dill pickles, strawberry ice cream.
- 14:30And we found that once we planted this false memory,
- 14:34people didn't want to eat the foods as much
- 14:36at an outdoor picnic.
- 14:38The false memories aren't necessarily bad or unpleasant.
- 14:42If we planted a warm, fuzzy memory
- 14:44involving a healthy food like asparagus,
- 14:48we could get people to want to eat asparagus more.
- 14:51And so what these studies are showing
- 14:53is that you can plant false memories
- 14:55and they have repercussions
- 14:57that affect behavior long after the memories take hold.
- 15:02Well, along with this ability
- 15:04to plant memories and control behavior
- 15:07obviously come some important ethical issues,
- 15:11like, when should we use this mind technology?
- 15:15And should we ever ban its use?
- 15:18Therapists can't ethically plant false memories
- 15:21in the mind of their patients
- 15:23even if it would help the patient,
- 15:25but there's nothing to stop a parent
- 15:27from trying this out on their overweight or obese teenager.
- 15:31And when I suggested this publicly,
- 15:34it created an outcry again.
- 15:37"There she goes. She's advocating that parents lie to their children."
- 15:41Hello, Santa Claus. (Laughter)
- 15:43I mean, another way to think about this is,
- 15:53which would you rather have,
- 15:55a kid with obesity, diabetes, shortened lifespan,
- 15:58all the things that go with it,
- 16:00or a kid with one little extra bit of false memory?
- 16:03I know what I would choose for a kid of mine.
- 16:06But maybe my work has made me different from most people.
- 16:10Most people cherish their memories,
- 16:12know that they represent their identity,
- 16:14who they are, where they came from.
- 16:16And I appreciate that. I feel that way too.
- 16:19But I know from my work
- 16:21how much fiction is already in there.
- 16:26If I've learned anything from these decades
- 16:28of working on these problems, it's this:
- 16:31just because somebody tells you something
- 16:33and they say it with confidence,
- 16:35just because they say it with lots of detail,
- 16:37just because they express emotion when they say it,
- 16:40it doesn't mean that it really happened.
- 16:43We can't reliably distinguish true memories from false memories.
- 16:47We need independent corroboration.
- 16:51Such a discovery has made me more tolerant
- 16:54of the everyday memory mistakes
- 16:56that my friends and family members make.
- 16:59Such a discovery might have saved Steve Titus,
- 17:03the man whose whole future was snatched away
- 17:07by a false memory.
- 17:09But meanwhile, we should all keep in mind,
- 17:12we'd do well to,
- 17:14that memory, like liberty,
- 17:18is a fragile thing.
- 17:21Thank you. Thank you.
- 17:24Thank you. (Applause)
- 17:27Thanks very much. (Applause)
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