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How reliable is your memory? | Elizabeth Loftus — Transcript

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  1. 0:12I'd like to tell you about a legal case that I worked on
  2. 0:16involving a man named Steve Titus.
  3. 0:20Titus was a restaurant manager.
  4. 0:23He was 31 years old, he lived in Seattle, Washington,
  5. 0:27he was engaged to Gretchen,
  6. 0:29about to be married, she was the love of his life.
  7. 0:32And one night, the couple went out
  8. 0:34for a romantic restaurant meal.
  9. 0:37They were on their way home,
  10. 0:39and they were pulled over by a police officer.
  11. 0:42You see, Titus' car sort of resembled
  12. 0:45a car that was driven earlier in the evening
  13. 0:49by a man who raped a female hitchhiker,
  14. 0:52and Titus kind of resembled that rapist.
  15. 0:56So the police took a picture of Titus,
  16. 0:59they put it in a photo lineup,
  17. 1:01they later showed it to the victim,
  18. 1:03and she pointed to Titus' photo.
  19. 1:06She said, "That one's the closest."
  20. 1:09The police and the prosecution proceeded with a trial,
  21. 1:13and when Steve Titus was put on trial for rape,
  22. 1:16the rape victim got on the stand
  23. 1:19and said, "I'm absolutely positive that's the man."
  24. 1:23And Titus was convicted.
  25. 1:26He proclaimed his innocence,
  26. 1:28his family screamed at the jury,
  27. 1:30his fiancée collapsed on the floor sobbing,
  28. 1:33and Titus is taken away to jail.
  29. 1:37So what would you do at this point?
  30. 1:40What would you do?
  31. 1:42Well, Titus lost complete faith in the legal system,
  32. 1:46and yet he got an idea.
  33. 1:48He called up the local newspaper,
  34. 1:50he got the interest of an investigative journalist,
  35. 1:53and that journalist actually found the real rapist,
  36. 1:58a man who ultimately confessed to this rape,
  37. 2:01a man who was thought to have committed 50 rapes
  38. 2:05in that area,
  39. 2:06and when this information was given to the judge,
  40. 2:09the judge set Titus free.
  41. 2:12And really, that's where this case should have ended.
  42. 2:16It should have been over.
  43. 2:17Titus should have thought of this as a horrible year,
  44. 2:20a year of accusation and trial, but over.
  45. 2:24It didn't end that way.
  46. 2:26Titus was so bitter.
  47. 2:28He'd lost his job. He couldn't get it back.
  48. 2:31He lost his fiancée.
  49. 2:33She couldn't put up with his persistent anger.
  50. 2:36He lost his entire savings,
  51. 2:38and so he decided to file a lawsuit
  52. 2:41against the police and others whom he felt
  53. 2:43were responsible for his suffering.
  54. 2:45And that's when I really started working on this case,
  55. 2:50trying to figure out
  56. 2:52how did that victim go from
  57. 2:54"That one's the closest"
  58. 2:56to "I'm absolutely positive that's the guy."
  59. 3:00Well, Titus was consumed with his civil case.
  60. 3:04He spent every waking moment thinking about it,
  61. 3:07and just days before he was to have his day in court,
  62. 3:11he woke up in the morning,
  63. 3:13doubled over in pain,
  64. 3:15and died of a stress-related heart attack.
  65. 3:18He was 35 years old.
  66. 3:21So I was asked to work on Titus' case
  67. 3:26because I'm a psychological scientist.
  68. 3:28I study memory. I've studied memory for decades.
  69. 3:32And if I meet somebody on an airplane --
  70. 3:35this happened on the way over to Scotland --
  71. 3:37if I meet somebody on an airplane,
  72. 3:39and we ask each other, "What do you do? What do you do?"
  73. 3:42and I say "I study memory,"
  74. 3:44they usually want to tell me how they have trouble remembering names,
  75. 3:47or they've got a relative who's got Alzheimer's
  76. 3:50or some kind of memory problem,
  77. 3:52but I have to tell them
  78. 3:54I don't study when people forget.
  79. 3:58I study the opposite: when they remember,
  80. 4:01when they remember things that didn't happen
  81. 4:03or remember things that were different
  82. 4:05from the way they really were.
  83. 4:07I study false memories.
  84. 4:12Unhappily, Steve Titus is not the only person
  85. 4:16to be convicted based on somebody's false memory.
  86. 4:21In one project in the United States,
  87. 4:24information has been gathered
  88. 4:26on 300 innocent people,
  89. 4:30300 defendants who were convicted of crimes they didn't do.
  90. 4:34They spent 10, 20, 30 years in prison for these crimes,
  91. 4:39and now DNA testing has proven
  92. 4:42that they are actually innocent.
  93. 4:45And when those cases have been analyzed,
  94. 4:47three quarters of them
  95. 4:49are due to faulty memory, faulty eyewitness memory.
  96. 4:55Well, why?
  97. 4:56Like the jurors who convicted those innocent people
  98. 5:00and the jurors who convicted Titus,
  99. 5:02many people believe that memory
  100. 5:04works like a recording device.
  101. 5:06You just record the information,
  102. 5:08then you call it up and play it back
  103. 5:11when you want to answer questions or identify images.
  104. 5:14But decades of work in psychology
  105. 5:16has shown that this just isn't true.
  106. 5:20Our memories are constructive.
  107. 5:22They're reconstructive.
  108. 5:24Memory works a little bit more like a Wikipedia page:
  109. 5:27You can go in there and change it, but so can other people.
  110. 5:32I first started studying this constructive memory process
  111. 5:37in the 1970s.
  112. 5:40I did my experiments that involved showing people
  113. 5:44simulated crimes and accidents
  114. 5:47and asking them questions about what they remember.
  115. 5:50In one study, we showed people a simulated accident
  116. 5:54and we asked people,
  117. 5:56how fast were the cars going when they hit each other?
  118. 5:58And we asked other people,
  119. 6:00how fast were the cars going when they smashed into each other?
  120. 6:04And if we asked the leading "smashed" question,
  121. 6:07the witnesses told us the cars were going faster,
  122. 6:10and moreover, that leading "smashed" question
  123. 6:14caused people to be more likely to tell us
  124. 6:17that they saw broken glass in the accident scene
  125. 6:20when there wasn't any broken glass at all.
  126. 6:24In another study, we showed a simulated accident
  127. 6:27where a car went through an intersection with a stop sign,
  128. 6:30and if we asked a question that insinuated it was a yield sign,
  129. 6:35many witnesses told us they remember seeing a yield sign
  130. 6:39at the intersection, not a stop sign.
  131. 6:43And you might be thinking, well, you know,
  132. 6:45these are filmed events,
  133. 6:46they are not particularly stressful.
  134. 6:48Would the same kind of mistakes be made
  135. 6:51with a really stressful event?
  136. 6:54In a study we published just a few months ago,
  137. 6:57we have an answer to this question,
  138. 6:59because what was unusual about this study
  139. 7:02is we arranged for people to have a very stressful experience.
  140. 7:07The subjects in this study
  141. 7:10were members of the U.S. military
  142. 7:12who were undergoing a harrowing training exercise
  143. 7:17to teach them what it's going to be like for them
  144. 7:19if they are ever captured as prisoners of war.
  145. 7:23And as part of this training exercise,
  146. 7:26these soldiers are interrogated in an aggressive,
  147. 7:29hostile, physically abusive fashion for 30 minutes
  148. 7:34and later on they have to try to identify
  149. 7:37the person who conducted that interrogation.
  150. 7:40And when we feed them suggestive information
  151. 7:44that insinuates it's a different person,
  152. 7:47many of them misidentify their interrogator,
  153. 7:51often identifying someone who doesn't even remotely
  154. 7:55resemble the real interrogator.
  155. 7:58And so what these studies are showing
  156. 8:00is that when you feed people misinformation
  157. 8:04about some experience that they may have had,
  158. 8:07you can distort or contaminate or change their memory.
  159. 8:13Well out there in the real world,
  160. 8:15misinformation is everywhere.
  161. 8:18We get misinformation
  162. 8:19not only if we're questioned in a leading way,
  163. 8:22but if we talk to other witnesses
  164. 8:25who might consciously or inadvertently feed us
  165. 8:28some erroneous information,
  166. 8:30or if we see media coverage about some event we might have experienced,
  167. 8:35all of these provide the opportunity
  168. 8:37for this kind of contamination of our memory.
  169. 8:42In the 1990s, we began to see
  170. 8:46an even more extreme kind of memory problem.
  171. 8:50Some patients were going into therapy with one problem --
  172. 8:53maybe they had depression, an eating disorder --
  173. 8:56and they were coming out of therapy
  174. 8:59with a different problem.
  175. 9:02Extreme memories for horrific brutalizations,
  176. 9:05sometimes in satanic rituals,
  177. 9:07sometimes involving really bizarre and unusual elements.
  178. 9:12One woman came out of psychotherapy
  179. 9:15believing that she'd endured years
  180. 9:17of ritualistic abuse, where she was forced into a pregnancy
  181. 9:21and that the baby was cut from her belly.
  182. 9:24But there were no physical scars
  183. 9:26or any kind of physical evidence
  184. 9:28that could have supported her story.
  185. 9:31And when I began looking into these cases,
  186. 9:34I was wondering,
  187. 9:35where do these bizarre memories come from?
  188. 9:38And what I found is that most of these situations
  189. 9:42involved some particular form of psychotherapy.
  190. 9:47And so I asked,
  191. 9:49were some of the things going on in this psychotherapy --
  192. 9:52like the imagination exercises
  193. 9:55or dream interpretation,
  194. 9:57or in some cases hypnosis,
  195. 10:00or in some cases exposure to false information --
  196. 10:03were these leading these patients
  197. 10:06to develop these very bizarre,
  198. 10:09unlikely memories?
  199. 10:12And I designed some experiments
  200. 10:14to try to study the processes that were being used
  201. 10:19in this psychotherapy so I could study
  202. 10:22the development of these very rich false memories.
  203. 10:26In one of the first studies we did,
  204. 10:28we used suggestion,
  205. 10:30a method inspired by the psychotherapy we saw in these cases,
  206. 10:34we used this kind of suggestion
  207. 10:36and planted a false memory
  208. 10:38that when you were a kid, five or six years old,
  209. 10:41you were lost in a shopping mall.
  210. 10:44You were frightened. You were crying.
  211. 10:46You were ultimately rescued by an elderly person
  212. 10:49and reunited with the family.
  213. 10:51And we succeeded in planting this memory
  214. 10:53in the minds of about a quarter of our subjects.
  215. 10:57And you might be thinking, well,
  216. 10:59that's not particularly stressful.
  217. 11:02But we and other investigators have planted
  218. 11:05rich false memories of things that were
  219. 11:08much more unusual and much more stressful.
  220. 11:11So in a study done in Tennessee,
  221. 11:13researchers planted the false memory
  222. 11:16that when you were a kid, you nearly drowned
  223. 11:18and had to be rescued by a life guard.
  224. 11:21And in a study done in Canada,
  225. 11:23researchers planted the false memory
  226. 11:26that when you were a kid,
  227. 11:27something as awful as being attacked by a vicious animal
  228. 11:30happened to you,
  229. 11:32succeeding with about half of their subjects.
  230. 11:35And in a study done in Italy,
  231. 11:38researchers planted the false memory,
  232. 11:40when you were a kid, you witnessed demonic possession.
  233. 11:45I do want to add that it might seem
  234. 11:48like we are traumatizing these experimental subjects
  235. 11:51in the name of science,
  236. 11:53but our studies have gone through thorough evaluation
  237. 11:58by research ethics boards
  238. 12:00that have made the decision
  239. 12:02that the temporary discomfort that some
  240. 12:05of these subjects might experience in these studies
  241. 12:08is outweighed by the importance of this problem
  242. 12:12for understanding memory processes
  243. 12:15and the abuse of memory that is going on
  244. 12:18in some places in the world.
  245. 12:22Well, to my surprise,
  246. 12:25when I published this work and began to speak out
  247. 12:28against this particular brand of psychotherapy,
  248. 12:32it created some pretty bad problems for me:
  249. 12:36hostilities, primarily from the repressed memory therapists,
  250. 12:41who felt under attack,
  251. 12:43and by the patients whom they had influenced.
  252. 12:46I had sometimes armed guards at speeches
  253. 12:49that I was invited to give,
  254. 12:51people trying to drum up letter-writing campaigns to get me fired.
  255. 12:55But probably the worst
  256. 12:57was I suspected that a woman
  257. 13:00was innocent of abuse
  258. 13:02that was being claimed by her grown daughter.
  259. 13:05She accused her mother of sexual abuse
  260. 13:09based on a repressed memory.
  261. 13:11And this accusing daughter had actually allowed her story
  262. 13:13to be filmed and presented in public places.
  263. 13:17I was suspicious of this story,
  264. 13:19and so I started to investigate,
  265. 13:22and eventually found information that convinced me
  266. 13:26that this mother was innocent.
  267. 13:28I published an exposé on the case,
  268. 13:31and a little while later, the accusing daughter
  269. 13:35filed a lawsuit.
  270. 13:36Even though I'd never mentioned her name,
  271. 13:39she sued me for defamation and invasion of privacy.
  272. 13:43And I went through nearly five years
  273. 13:46of dealing with this messy, unpleasant litigation,
  274. 13:52but finally, finally, it was over and I could really
  275. 13:56get back to my work.
  276. 13:58In the process, however, I became part
  277. 14:01of a disturbing trend in America
  278. 14:04where scientists are being sued
  279. 14:06for simply speaking out on matters of great public controversy.
  280. 14:10When I got back to my work, I asked this question:
  281. 14:14if I plant a false memory in your mind,
  282. 14:16does it have repercussions?
  283. 14:18Does it affect your later thoughts,
  284. 14:20your later behaviors?
  285. 14:22Our first study planted a false memory
  286. 14:24that you got sick as a child eating certain foods:
  287. 14:27hard-boiled eggs, dill pickles, strawberry ice cream.
  288. 14:30And we found that once we planted this false memory,
  289. 14:34people didn't want to eat the foods as much
  290. 14:36at an outdoor picnic.
  291. 14:38The false memories aren't necessarily bad or unpleasant.
  292. 14:42If we planted a warm, fuzzy memory
  293. 14:44involving a healthy food like asparagus,
  294. 14:48we could get people to want to eat asparagus more.
  295. 14:51And so what these studies are showing
  296. 14:53is that you can plant false memories
  297. 14:55and they have repercussions
  298. 14:57that affect behavior long after the memories take hold.
  299. 15:02Well, along with this ability
  300. 15:04to plant memories and control behavior
  301. 15:07obviously come some important ethical issues,
  302. 15:11like, when should we use this mind technology?
  303. 15:15And should we ever ban its use?
  304. 15:18Therapists can't ethically plant false memories
  305. 15:21in the mind of their patients
  306. 15:23even if it would help the patient,
  307. 15:25but there's nothing to stop a parent
  308. 15:27from trying this out on their overweight or obese teenager.
  309. 15:31And when I suggested this publicly,
  310. 15:34it created an outcry again.
  311. 15:37"There she goes. She's advocating that parents lie to their children."
  312. 15:41Hello, Santa Claus. (Laughter)
  313. 15:43I mean, another way to think about this is,
  314. 15:53which would you rather have,
  315. 15:55a kid with obesity, diabetes, shortened lifespan,
  316. 15:58all the things that go with it,
  317. 16:00or a kid with one little extra bit of false memory?
  318. 16:03I know what I would choose for a kid of mine.
  319. 16:06But maybe my work has made me different from most people.
  320. 16:10Most people cherish their memories,
  321. 16:12know that they represent their identity,
  322. 16:14who they are, where they came from.
  323. 16:16And I appreciate that. I feel that way too.
  324. 16:19But I know from my work
  325. 16:21how much fiction is already in there.
  326. 16:26If I've learned anything from these decades
  327. 16:28of working on these problems, it's this:
  328. 16:31just because somebody tells you something
  329. 16:33and they say it with confidence,
  330. 16:35just because they say it with lots of detail,
  331. 16:37just because they express emotion when they say it,
  332. 16:40it doesn't mean that it really happened.
  333. 16:43We can't reliably distinguish true memories from false memories.
  334. 16:47We need independent corroboration.
  335. 16:51Such a discovery has made me more tolerant
  336. 16:54of the everyday memory mistakes
  337. 16:56that my friends and family members make.
  338. 16:59Such a discovery might have saved Steve Titus,
  339. 17:03the man whose whole future was snatched away
  340. 17:07by a false memory.
  341. 17:09But meanwhile, we should all keep in mind,
  342. 17:12we'd do well to,
  343. 17:14that memory, like liberty,
  344. 17:18is a fragile thing.
  345. 17:21Thank you. Thank you.
  346. 17:24Thank you. (Applause)
  347. 17:27Thanks very much. (Applause)

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