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  1. 0:13Okay, so we were recently invited to
  2. 0:15attend the Shenzhen International Audio
  3. 0:17Show. At this event, there were a whole
  4. 0:19bunch of product announcements, but the
  5. 0:20ones that were particularly interesting
  6. 0:21to us were [music] from Moonrop, and we
  7. 0:23got a chance to check out what they had
  8. 0:24in the works at their booth. Now, in
  9. 0:26this video, you'll hear Caleb Griffin
  10. 0:28and myself talk about some of the
  11. 0:29pricing that they mentioned, but keep in
  12. 0:31mind this was local region pricing. We
  13. 0:33don't actually know what the pricing
  14. 0:34will be like for North America or other
  15. 0:36regions. So, take this with a grain of
  16. 0:38salt, but also look forward to full
  17. 0:40reviews of a number of these products
  18. 0:41once we've had a chance to get them in
  19. 0:42for further testing. Now, probably the
  20. 0:45most interesting new Moonrop product for
  21. 0:46me was a budget gaming headset called
  22. 0:48the GM01 Pro, I think, or something like
  23. 0:51that. And you don't really expect a lot
  24. 0:53from cheap gaming headsets, but this was
  25. 0:54one that kind of surprised us in like
  26. 0:57every way. So, uh I'm very excited to
  27. 0:59get this one in, and I'm I'm encouraged
  28. 1:01by what I heard.
  29. 1:02>> Have you heard this uh have you heard
  30. 1:04this one yet?
  31. 1:05>> I have not. To be honest, all the um
  32. 1:09showcasing and the product announcement
  33. 1:11was slightly confusing giving that it's
  34. 1:12in Chinese and I only know how to say
  35. 1:14Ding Chiling. But, you know, we'll do
  36. 1:17our best here while we're here.
  37. 1:18>> Yeah. So, we're here at the Moon Drop
  38. 1:20booth. Uh they just announced a new line
  39. 1:22of gaming headsets. Uh this is the more
  40. 1:24expensive uh I think it's GM1 Pro. Uh I
  41. 1:29believe it's still under $100, right?
  42. 1:31>> Is it like 50 bucks?
  43. 1:33>> Yeah, pretty sure it's like surprisingly
  44. 1:35cheap. Uh in terms of like build notes,
  45. 1:38obviously it does have these quite
  46. 1:40visually obvious cables on it.
  47. 1:42>> Reminiscent of the Bayer Dynamic I
  48. 1:44think.
  49. 1:44>> Yeah, kind of. Um I was a bit skeptical
  50. 1:46about them, but you know, they're
  51. 1:48they're fine. One thing I will note is
  52. 1:49that they don't have any cup swivel.
  53. 1:51>> Oh,
  54. 1:51>> like at all.
  55. 1:52>> However, they do have more of like a um
  56. 1:55a more dramatic tilt like outward when
  57. 1:58you put it on than most headphones that
  58. 2:01don't have tilt. So, it actually does
  59. 2:02fit the side of my head really well. Um
  60. 2:05in terms of the sound quality, I would
  61. 2:07say it's a little bit surprising. Um it
  62. 2:11sounds reasonable. Like I treble issues
  63. 2:14are really the only thing I'm noticing.
  64. 2:15Like bass and mid seem absolutely fine.
  65. 2:18maybe a little bit of like 1K issue, but
  66. 2:21like 1 dB, 2dB max. And then on my head,
  67. 2:25it seems like there's a little bit extra
  68. 2:27like 4K and then a little bit extra air.
  69. 2:30>> But that's kind of just how headphones
  70. 2:32tend to respond on my head. So, I'd be
  71. 2:35interested to see what you guys think of
  72. 2:36this because like
  73. 2:37>> I'm surprised how good it sounds. Yeah.
  74. 2:40I mean, it the the fit might be an issue
  75. 2:42for you, but we'll have to see.
  76. 2:43>> Let's give it a shot.
  77. 2:44>> Okay, hold on. I'm not even going to
  78. 2:46bother with
  79. 2:47Oh, no. It fits fine.
  80. 2:48>> Yeah. Right. I was surprised.
  81. 2:50>> Yeah.
  82. 2:51>> And it's like pretty comfortable, too.
  83. 2:52Like the pads The pads actually remind
  84. 2:54me a lot of the Flow Stone pads in terms
  85. 2:55of like their uh texturing.
  86. 2:57>> Yeah. It's nice.
  87. 2:57>> It's also super light, isn't it?
  88. 2:59>> It is light.
  89. 3:00>> Say something to the camera.
  90. 3:02>> Yeah. I'm really just going to be able
  91. 3:03to listen to AC/DC. [laughter]
  92. 3:04>> Yeah.
  93. 3:06>> I'm going to go run by K real quick.
  94. 3:07>> It's good.
  95. 3:08>> Yeah. Right.
  96. 3:08>> That's really good, actually.
  97. 3:10>> I was surprised,
  98. 3:11>> dude. The bass is fun. It's actually
  99. 3:13really good. It's elevated, but
  100. 3:15>> it's like it's like V-shaped a little
  101. 3:16bit cuz it the treble is like a bit
  102. 3:18>> just a very slight up,
  103. 3:19>> but it's not like it's not harsh. It's
  104. 3:21not striden like still has mids
  105. 3:23>> under $100. How do you find the comfort?
  106. 3:25>> Uh I I do I find it surprisingly good.
  107. 3:27The only thing is that um the pads are
  108. 3:29too small for my ears. Yeah.
  109. 3:30>> Right. And so um my ears do touch the
  110. 3:32>> the baffle.
  111. 3:33>> The baffle. And then also like Yeah.
  112. 3:35It's just not
  113. 3:36>> it's not a big ear.
  114. 3:37>> But it's comfortable still. Like the way
  115. 3:39that the pad material conforms, it's
  116. 3:40like a really compliant material for the
  117. 3:42pad. Yeah.
  118. 3:42>> It's not stiff at all,
  119. 3:44>> so it conforms around the head really
  120. 3:45easily. I think this is a home run if
  121. 3:47it's
  122. 3:48>> Yeah. As long as the production models
  123. 3:49are are this
  124. 3:50>> are this. Yeah. Like damn.
  125. 3:52>> I would probably want one.
  126. 3:53>> I definitely want one already. This is
  127. 3:55great. Uh we didn't test the mic, but I
  128. 3:57don't
  129. 3:57>> can't really do that. You want?
  130. 3:59>> Yeah, I want to try.
  131. 3:59>> Yeah.
  132. 4:00>> All right. So, I'm listening to One Last
  133. 4:01Kiss by I should know the name. This is
  134. 4:04awful.
  135. 4:05>> But it's from Evangelion.
  136. 4:07>> Oh, here. Here you go. You So, I was at
  137. 4:09a concert not too long ago.
  138. 4:17Okay. The bass is bass is pretty good.
  139. 4:18It's a little shouty, but it could be
  140. 4:20just a song.
  141. 4:21>> Yeah, I noticed that, too. Actually,
  142. 4:23>> there's a little bit of forwardness or
  143. 4:24like kind of
  144. 4:25>> maybe 2K.
  145. 4:26>> Yeah.
  146. 4:27>> We'll see.
  147. 4:29>> Like I hear that on electric guitars,
  148. 4:30but the guitars sound just a little bit
  149. 4:32too like, you know,
  150. 4:33>> a bit. It's a bit It's a bit crunched
  151. 4:35up, right?
  152. 4:37>> I mean, yeah, the bass the bass tuning
  153. 4:39on this is quite nice, right? you really
  154. 4:41get that nice sort of midbase uh punch
  155. 4:44and boom sort of mix. Not a ton of
  156. 4:46subbase, but that's fine. Um mid-range
  157. 4:49is good.
  158. 4:50>> Treble is nicely controlled. A little
  159. 4:52bit of sharpness, and it's a bit like
  160. 4:55splashed out, but it's not overly done
  161. 4:58at all. I think um the build quality, I
  162. 5:00quite like the build quality of this.
  163. 5:01One thing I really like is actually the
  164. 5:04how stiff the mic boom thingy is. Yeah,
  165. 5:07it's like
  166. 5:08>> it stays in place really nicely. Um,
  167. 5:11which is which is great. Um, on my head
  168. 5:14it I have no issues with the fit and
  169. 5:15comfort. I think it compies around my
  170. 5:17ears, my glasses quite nicely as well.
  171. 5:20So, this will be about 300 uh RM, which
  172. 5:23I believe converts to around $50 USD.
  173. 5:25So, like we said, this it's going to eat
  174. 5:27the lunch of HyperX like straight up.
  175. 5:29>> That's a home run.
  176. 5:30>> Literally, the only thing is the lack of
  177. 5:32the tilt, I think. Um but for me and I
  178. 5:35think for all the three of us didn't
  179. 5:37have any issues with that.
  180. 5:38>> Yeah. It's it's also worth noting um I
  181. 5:41do think this will have uh like a web
  182. 5:43app where you can do the typical like
  183. 5:45Moonrop stuff. So there will be like
  184. 5:47gaming specific features but if you're
  185. 5:48one of the people who has already used
  186. 5:50um like Moonrop's EQ features I think
  187. 5:53that'll be available on the web app as
  188. 5:54well. So like talking about like eating
  189. 5:56HyperX's lunch like you would need some
  190. 5:58sort of software integration to really
  191. 6:00do that. And I do think them including
  192. 6:02that app is probably going to be the
  193. 6:04thing that seals that. I
  194. 6:05>> I think for me the biggest thing where
  195. 6:06this eats Hyper HyperX's lunch is the
  196. 6:08comfort of the pads and how the pads
  197. 6:10conform cuz that was always an issue.
  198. 6:12>> Like Yeah. springy kind of leather. This
  199. 6:14actually feels really nice.
  200. 6:15>> I agree. And that that's actually a good
  201. 6:17point because you know the previous very
  202. 6:20cheap wireless headphone they had was
  203. 6:21the Moonrop Edge and the build quality
  204. 6:23of that was
  205. 6:25>> not the best. I would say
  206. 6:26>> left some to be desired.
  207. 6:28>> Left a lot to be desired. this one. It's
  208. 6:30the, you know, plastic definitely feels
  209. 6:32cheap, but it's a very lightweight,
  210. 6:34good, you know, cheap plastic feeling.
  211. 6:36It's not like the bad type. You know
  212. 6:38what I mean? Like,
  213. 6:38>> yeah, I'd say for $50.
  214. 6:39>> For $50, especially impressed,
  215. 6:41especially Edge was more expensive.
  216. 6:43>> Yes, Edge was more expensive. And And
  217. 6:45you don't get cloth pads like this for
  218. 6:47under
  219. 6:48>> 100 usually, right? Like this is this is
  220. 6:50nice.
  221. 6:51>> Good job, Mr. Herbert.
  222. 6:52>> Mr. Moonrop.
  223. 6:53>> Mr. Moonrop.
  224. 6:54>> Love it.
  225. 6:55>> All right, cool.
  226. 6:56>> I want one. [laughter]
  227. 6:57>> Yeah.
  228. 6:57>> All right. I I can feel myself getting
  229. 6:59sweaty already.
  230. 7:00>> He's going back to his gamer days.
  231. 7:01>> Yeah. [laughter]
  232. 7:02>> Next up, we were able to go to one of
  233. 7:03the back rooms at their booth to try out
  234. 7:05the fancy stuff. [music] And they're
  235. 7:07working on a high-end planer magnetic
  236. 7:09headphone called the Dark Side. It was
  237. 7:11actually my favorite of the ones that
  238. 7:13they had there. [music] Like this one
  239. 7:14was the most audio file for better or
  240. 7:16worse.
  241. 7:17>> All right. So, Griff wants me to show
  242. 7:18off that this is what I'm listening to.
  243. 7:19It's a little better than Eric Clapton.
  244. 7:21Uh,
  245. 7:23>> but uh you know that that's what we're
  246. 7:25here in uh here in China for.
  247. 7:27Thankfully, I was actually familiar with
  248. 7:28that one. Usually, it's better than most
  249. 7:29of the stuff I'm not familiar with um at
  250. 7:31Western shows. Anyway, so this is the
  251. 7:33Moonrop Dark Side. You can see it's this
  252. 7:36sort of really interesting face plate
  253. 7:37design. It's like a bit of a Spider-Man
  254. 7:39webby thing and it's a carbon fiber sort
  255. 7:41of um design here. And the headband uses
  256. 7:45very similar to the Moonrop Skyland.
  257. 7:47What is nice about this one is that it
  258. 7:49fits me actually quite well. Uh it's not
  259. 7:51you don't feel loose. I don't have to
  260. 7:52put my chopstick model on here.
  261. 7:53>> Give headbanging a try.
  262. 7:56>> [music]
  263. 7:58>> Nice headbang. Headbang approved.
  264. 7:59>> Yeah, headbang approved. Um, it is just
  265. 8:01slightly loose at the bottom, but that's
  266. 8:04fine. I'm sure. Once again, I think you,
  267. 8:05you know, put a couple of zip ties up
  268. 8:07here, tighten up a little bit, right?
  269. 8:08Um, anyway, sound quality. I I really
  270. 8:12quite like it. I think the first
  271. 8:13impression is that it's actually
  272. 8:14slightly a bit more intimate than I
  273. 8:17expected given, you know, it's a planer.
  274. 8:19I thought it feels fairly open back, but
  275. 8:21it's actually not. but quite nicely
  276. 8:24balanced overall. Mid-range clarity was
  277. 8:26great. The bass uh thump and punch um
  278. 8:29and weight was really nice on this
  279. 8:31headphone. Yeah, I think this is better
  280. 8:33than the Skyland even though I think the
  281. 8:35Skyland's a little bit more unique. Um I
  282. 8:37I think this is better in Skyland and I
  283. 8:38kind of won one. Uh yeah, it's kind of
  284. 8:40my thoughts on Dark Side. Want to give
  285. 8:42this a go?
  286. 8:43>> Yeah, I do. Yeah. So, uh I just got
  287. 8:45finished listening to the Dark Side as
  288. 8:46well. Um similar notes to Caleb on the
  289. 8:49comfort. It's fine. I'm not a huge fan
  290. 8:51of the texture of this headband. a
  291. 8:52little bit kind of gets stuck on my hair
  292. 8:54sometimes. Uh
  293. 8:55>> just shave it off.
  294. 8:56>> Nah, just go a full audio file.
  295. 8:57>> Nah, partner won't let me. Um but uh
  296. 9:01interestingly, I did find this darker
  297. 9:03than I expected. Not in the mids. Like
  298. 9:04the mids are I would say a little bit
  299. 9:07forward if anything. Um on this record
  300. 9:10that sounds really good. There's a lot
  301. 9:11of electric guitar, so it sounds really
  302. 9:12like textured and intense. But there's
  303. 9:14also what sounds like either a low
  304. 9:15treble or mid treble recession a little
  305. 9:18bit that like makes it sound a little
  306. 9:20bit smooth in a way I wasn't expecting.
  307. 9:22And I kind of like um it almost kind of
  308. 9:24reminds me of like that foccal headphone
  309. 9:27effect where they have that 4k 5k dip
  310. 9:29thing and it comes across just a little
  311. 9:32not muffled necessarily but softened
  312. 9:34while still having like aggression
  313. 9:36because of the mid-range shaping. Bass
  314. 9:38is fine. I wouldn't say it was forward
  315. 9:39or anything. Is more mid focus than
  316. 9:41anything else. treble was seemingly fine
  317. 9:44beyond that mid treble or low treble
  318. 9:46dip. I'm not sure exactly where it is.
  319. 9:47I'd probably have to sign sweep it and
  320. 9:49can't do that here. But overall, I'd say
  321. 9:51it's a solid headphone. I don't know
  322. 9:52what the pricing is, but this is the
  323. 9:54kind of thing I probably could just like
  324. 9:55put on and listen to
  325. 9:58>> what compared to the Cosmo.
  326. 9:59>> Compared to the Cosmo, it's definitely
  327. 10:01much more like resolute and like filled
  328. 10:03out in the upper mids. Um, this
  329. 10:05definitely has more there. I wouldn't
  330. 10:08say their treble characters are
  331. 10:09especially similar either. Um, I would
  332. 10:10say Cosmo was like even more low treble
  333. 10:13recessed and a little bit more upper
  334. 10:15treble, whereas this seems a little bit
  335. 10:16more rained in on both fronts. But yeah,
  336. 10:19I think the prevailing like tamal
  337. 10:21character I'm getting from it is like a
  338. 10:23slight softened muffly kind of quality
  339. 10:26that it's not lacking in clarity or
  340. 10:28intelligibility. It just has this kind
  341. 10:30of relaxed nature about it which is
  342. 10:32interesting because again the upper mids
  343. 10:33seem a little bit forward. But yeah,
  344. 10:35cool headphone. Have you heard it?
  345. 10:37>> I heard a version of it that's on
  346. 10:39something else.
  347. 10:39>> Okay.
  348. 10:43It's good.
  349. 10:44>> Finally got some drums.
  350. 10:48>> Yeah.
  351. 10:50>> Dude, I love this.
  352. 10:51>> Really?
  353. 10:52>> Yeah.
  354. 10:54>> This is good. [laughter]
  355. 10:55>> No, I liked it.
  356. 10:58>> Wow. The the vocals are very
  357. 11:02>> right here.
  358. 11:03>> That's the upper mids.
  359. 11:06There's like
  360. 11:09>> I don't know what how you guys describe
  361. 11:10your frequency ranges, but like it's
  362. 11:12like a upper mids, lower lower highs, a
  363. 11:16little little too forward.
  364. 11:18>> Yeah. Oh, we're all saying the same
  365. 11:19thing.
  366. 11:19>> Yeah.
  367. 11:19>> Is that I It's a little It's a little
  368. 11:22upper midsy,
  369. 11:23>> but you know, I think it's also because
  370. 11:24it's softer in the low treble, so you
  371. 11:26notice that.
  372. 11:26>> Yeah.
  373. 11:27>> But it's like here you wanted a speaker.
  374. 11:29It's like so directional at you.
  375. 11:31>> It's so crazy.
  376. 11:32>> Yeah. Interesting. Now, the product that
  377. 11:35many of us were most excited for was
  378. 11:37their new electrostatic headphone, the
  379. 11:38Moon Zero. So, we were all pretty eager
  380. 11:41to try this one since it was meant to be
  381. 11:42a more affordable and accessible Estat.
  382. 11:45And on this one, impressions were a bit
  383. 11:47mixed.
  384. 11:47>> All right, so what I have here is the
  385. 11:49new Moon Drop Moon Zero. This is a
  386. 11:52headphone that was supposed to release 7
  387. 11:54years ago, and they were having a lot of
  388. 11:56issues with production. That's what they
  389. 11:58said in the in the presentation. They
  390. 12:00announced it a long time ago. I remember
  391. 12:02writing an article about this and at the
  392. 12:03time I believe the price was supposed to
  393. 12:05be very expensive, very very high and
  394. 12:07they came out and shocked us that this
  395. 12:09was going to be like 500 bucks.
  396. 12:11>> Kind of insane. Now that to be clear is
  397. 12:14only the headphones, not with the ESAT
  398. 12:16amp and ESAT amps are probably almost as
  399. 12:19important or arguably more important
  400. 12:20than the headphone itself in terms of
  401. 12:22like driving them. So you do need a good
  402. 12:24one and they do have a very good one
  403. 12:26here. So, you know, take it with a
  404. 12:27slight grain of salt what I'm going to
  405. 12:28say if you don't have a strong enough
  406. 12:30amp. Anyway, listening to this, this is
  407. 12:32I'm actually really impressed by this,
  408. 12:34honestly. Like, price aside, I was
  409. 12:36really impressed by this. I did see the
  410. 12:37graph that they showed. Um, there is a
  411. 12:39very slight bass elevation, like this
  412. 12:42hump right in the midbase, you know, 60
  413. 12:4580 hertz sort of region there. Um, which
  414. 12:48you do hear on this. You get a little
  415. 12:49nice little elevation at the kick drum
  416. 12:51and some of the low toms. Um, but
  417. 12:54otherwise, it's really nicely balanced.
  418. 12:55Treble is actually really nicely done on
  419. 12:57this. I like the treble more on this
  420. 12:58than the dark side. The dark side feels
  421. 13:01slightly darker like daughters were
  422. 13:03saying, but I also found at the same
  423. 13:06time it has that darkness, but also had
  424. 13:07like some, you know, micro splashes,
  425. 13:09micro peaks of treble. This one doesn't
  426. 13:10have that at all. So, it's overall just
  427. 13:13I find it's overall smoother. I thought
  428. 13:15the mid-range from the graph, seeing the
  429. 13:16graph, I thought the mid-range might be
  430. 13:17a little overdone, a little striden in
  431. 13:21certain areas, but not at all. When I'm
  432. 13:22listening to this, I think part of that
  433. 13:23is the balance uh with the lower mids
  434. 13:26that I was hearing. So, I am actually
  435. 13:28very very impressed with this one. The
  436. 13:30the Hongu EH1 has some pretty good
  437. 13:33competition, you know. So,
  438. 13:35>> Griff, you want to hear this one?
  439. 13:36>> Yes.
  440. 13:36>> Oh, I will say the fit was not as nice
  441. 13:38as the other one, I think. Like,
  442. 13:40>> that's a shame.
  443. 13:41>> All right. So, first thoughts on the
  444. 13:43Moon Drop Moon Zero. Uh, as Caleb said,
  445. 13:47I'm not a fan of the comfort on this
  446. 13:48one. I feel like it's not clampy enough.
  447. 13:50Uh, so it's kind of like feeling shaky
  448. 13:53on my head. The sound is yeah, there's
  449. 13:55definitely like a midbase bump around
  450. 13:57like 80 to 100 hertz or something like
  451. 13:59that on my head. It is definitely
  452. 14:00leaking because I feel like it's not
  453. 14:01clamping enough. So, there's like a gap
  454. 14:03here and here. The mid-range is quite
  455. 14:07nice and quite unlike a typical Estat
  456. 14:09where you basically always get that 1
  457. 14:11kHz honk. I'm not getting any of that
  458. 14:13here, but I am getting like right past
  459. 14:173K, like maybe 3 to four, 3 to 5 kHz,
  460. 14:21there's like a papery kind of
  461. 14:23crackly dry thing that a lot of these
  462. 14:26stats can have. Um, like the Odyssey
  463. 14:28Carbon had that for me as well. And this
  464. 14:30does kind of sound like that, but with a
  465. 14:31slightly warmer under 3k region. Um, the
  466. 14:36rest of the treble, like mid- treble,
  467. 14:37upper treble seems fairly polite. If
  468. 14:40anything, the main two colorations that
  469. 14:42are kind of bothering me are the midbase
  470. 14:44bump and the Yeah. 3 to 5 kHz. So, it
  471. 14:48comes across a little bit tubby, but
  472. 14:50also a little bit kind of like strident
  473. 14:52and dry. Uh, I'm not a fan personally.
  474. 14:56Uh, I think the the Hongu EH1
  475. 15:00is more comfortable on my head and comes
  476. 15:02with an Energizer. Even though it's a
  477. 15:03little bit more expensive as a package,
  478. 15:05it's really hard to find like an
  479. 15:06inexpensive Energizer for Eastads that
  480. 15:09is actually like going to do the job.
  481. 15:11And the fact that the Hongu comes with
  482. 15:13that, I I probably would still go for
  483. 15:15it. Even though it does have like a
  484. 15:17similar low treble issue to this one and
  485. 15:19slightly worse mids, I think just the
  486. 15:22overall package is a little bit better.
  487. 15:24And I'm not really a fan of the sound of
  488. 15:25this one, unfortunately.
  489. 15:27>> Time for me to be a tiebreaker.
  490. 15:30>> Okay, I'm ready.
  491. 15:32>> You don't like it?
  492. 15:35>> So, I don't dislike it. I'm just not
  493. 15:38>> I I don't know how to
  494. 15:40>> So, okay. Is Is it just me or does the
  495. 15:42subbase roll off?
  496. 15:43>> Yeah.
  497. 15:43>> Yeah, it does. I I knew that's what you
  498. 15:44were gonna
  499. 15:45>> That's the first thing I noticed. The
  500. 15:46subbase rolls off, but I think that's
  501. 15:47kind of like I mean it kind of rolls off
  502. 15:49on other East too, right?
  503. 15:51>> Yeah. But usually it's ones with like
  504. 15:53>> this goes like ergonomic design than
  505. 15:54this, but like this
  506. 15:55>> the ergonomic design is not that great.
  507. 15:56It kind of like flops around. So So the
  508. 15:58bass kind of goes like this and then and
  509. 16:00then drops off, right?
  510. 16:01>> It's got it's got a leak.
  511. 16:02>> But but my biggest issue is that the
  512. 16:04mids and the ear gain have this kind of
  513. 16:05hardness to it. Like it has this overall
  514. 16:07just like
  515. 16:08>> Yeah. the three to five.
  516. 16:09>> Yeah. Hardness kind of stridency to that
  517. 16:11whole band. It doesn't sound smooth
  518. 16:12there. It sounds very like detailed for
  519. 16:15the for the retrograde track that I was
  520. 16:17listening to. Like the vocals come
  521. 16:19through like really forward and just
  522. 16:20like that really like uh almost kind of
  523. 16:22like
  524. 16:25[laughter]
  525. 16:26>> Yeah. You know, but it has that almost
  526. 16:27like church hall effect for the vocals.
  527. 16:29But I think that's like a pretty pretty
  528. 16:31notable coloration for me as well. So
  529. 16:33then move over to the electric guitar
  530. 16:35track and that's where it doesn't work
  531. 16:36at all. It's sort of this hardness for
  532. 16:38that whole region. Um, I didn't mind the
  533. 16:41treble really like the upper the rest of
  534. 16:42the treble I thought was pretty good.
  535. 16:44Um, which was my issue with the
  536. 16:45headphone in Vienna. But it's that Yeah,
  537. 16:47it's that ear gain transition that I'm
  538. 16:49struggling with a little bit on this
  539. 16:50one.
  540. 16:50>> So, you take it you take this over the
  541. 16:52uh, do you take the dark side over this?
  542. 16:54For sure.
  543. 16:55>> So, actually ergonomically, I much
  544. 16:57prefer the dark side.
  545. 16:58>> Um, and actually like tonally like just
  546. 17:01out of the box, I prefer the sound of
  547. 17:02the dark side. It's like a bit more
  548. 17:04vivid and bombastic and probably has
  549. 17:06more colorations than the treble, but
  550. 17:08for whatever reason, I think the rest of
  551. 17:10it worked a bit better for me.
  552. 17:11>> I I would if I could, I would take the
  553. 17:14treble of this with the dark sides, the
  554. 17:16rest of dark profile.
  555. 17:17>> Yeah. Yeah, I would too. To be clear, I
  556. 17:19don't mind the bass here other than it
  557. 17:21was clearly like just
  558. 17:22>> Oh, yeah. The sub roll off.
  559. 17:23>> Yeah. But the rest of the bass I
  560. 17:24actually thought was okay. Like the way
  561. 17:26that it rises up like I think a lot of
  562. 17:27people listen to this for most of their
  563. 17:29music if it doesn't reach full spectrum,
  564. 17:30right? they're going to hear it like
  565. 17:32have it has lots of bass, right? Which
  566. 17:34is not common for ESAs generally or like
  567. 17:36flat linear base extension planers that
  568. 17:38you know taper down like an Odyssey or
  569. 17:39something like that, right? So, um, in
  570. 17:42that sense, I think it's good, but uh I
  571. 17:45would choose I have to remember this is
  572. 17:47like $450.
  573. 17:48>> Yeah, it's like $450 or 500.
  574. 17:49>> So, like at as an entry- level EAD, I
  575. 17:52think it's pretty good actually.
  576. 17:53>> The thing is you then also have to buy
  577. 17:54an energizer,
  578. 17:54>> but then you also have to buy an
  579. 17:55energizer. Exactly.
  580. 17:56>> So, EH1 I mean still
  581. 17:58>> So, EH1 Yeah. I'd say and this is the
  582. 18:00thing is I'm not as in love with the EH1
  583. 18:01as Griffin is for me. Okay. For me, I
  584. 18:04think it's a good value.
  585. 18:05>> It is probably a good value. Yeah. And
  586. 18:06it's for that's it's for that reason.
  587. 18:07Like if you want like an entry level EAT
  588. 18:10that is just decent, you need to have
  589. 18:11the Energizer, right? Although I think
  590. 18:13it's still it's good that something
  591. 18:15exists that is cheap for the EAT itself.
  592. 18:17So
  593. 18:17>> realistically, the majority of people
  594. 18:19should just get like a, you know, basic
  595. 18:20dynamic driver complaint, right? Like
  596. 18:22correct realistically, right? This is
  597. 18:24you get this because you want to try
  598. 18:26something cool, try something fun, maybe
  599. 18:28a little colored. So, you know, as an
  600. 18:31entry- level Estat or if you're already
  601. 18:32into the Eastat memes, could be a fun
  602. 18:35addition. Um, but yeah, don't buy this
  603. 18:37as your first headphone. I'm also
  604. 18:39listening to off like some Giga Eat a
  605. 18:43>> This is a This is a very expensive MSB
  606. 18:46Energizer.
  607. 18:49>> Yeah, that that amp is probably more
  608. 18:50expensive than everything else in this
  609. 18:51room.
  610. 18:51>> Correct.
  611. 18:53Can you do the retrograde song like
  612. 18:55singing again, please?
  613. 18:56>> Yeah. [laughter]
  614. 18:57>> All right, that's it. Lastly, we got to
  615. 18:58try their new speaker. And again, this
  616. 19:00one is meant to be around $100, so a bit
  617. 19:03more on the budget friendly side. And
  618. 19:05again, impressions were a little bit
  619. 19:06mixed on this one.
  620. 19:08>> So, what did we just do?
  621. 19:09>> Yeah, so we just heard the new uh
  622. 19:10Moonrop speakers are like $100 for a
  623. 19:12pair. Little 3-in desktop John's.
  624. 19:15They're
  625. 19:17if you're going to listen to them near
  626. 19:19field on a desk like you're going to
  627. 19:21need to do EQ cuz they are quite bright
  628. 19:25on axis. Like the measurements show them
  629. 19:27as being like basically flat on axis and
  630. 19:28the directivity curve is I would say
  631. 19:32gentle. Um so you either need quite a
  632. 19:35bit of distance or quite a bit of like
  633. 19:37towing in or out like away from your ear
  634. 19:41to make it sound normal. Um, but they're
  635. 19:45only $100, so I could see them still
  636. 19:48being a decent option for people. It's
  637. 19:50just with speakers, you do need to EQ
  638. 19:53just like period. So, if you're going to
  639. 19:55get something like that, I would
  640. 19:57recommend also getting a measurement
  641. 19:58microphone, measuring in your room, and
  642. 20:01applying some EQ to just kind of downs
  643. 20:03slope them at the listening position
  644. 20:05cuz, yeah, as it was, they were they
  645. 20:07were pretty punishing. They sounded very
  646. 20:095K, 10K heavy for me.
  647. 20:11>> Yeah. So, ignore all that. What you're
  648. 20:12going to do is you're going to buy a
  649. 20:13subwoofer. Yes.
  650. 20:14>> And then you'll be okay. You'll be okay.
  651. 20:18>> Yeah. I mean, my thoughts are similar,
  652. 20:19but I would say I'm I'm kind of in
  653. 20:21between the two. Definitely, you need a
  654. 20:22subwoofer for that.
  655. 20:23>> Um, I will say in the room they did have
  656. 20:25it pretty loud. They have it definitely
  657. 20:27a bit too close. I would have spread it
  658. 20:29out a little bit more and then put it
  659. 20:31further back. I think that would have
  660. 20:32helped, you know, relax some of the I
  661. 20:34think on a desktop.
  662. 20:36>> Yeah, but not they they have space to
  663. 20:39spread it spread it out or they wouldn't
  664. 20:40have just had it at loud. That was that
  665. 20:42was pretty loud. They had it in there. I
  666. 20:44think it's more that upper mids is
  667. 20:46definitely a bit more forward in a way
  668. 20:48that I think most most speakers
  669. 20:50shouldn't be. But once again,
  670. 20:52>> it sounded like a Skyland.
  671. 20:53>> Yeah. So Andrew said it sounded like a
  672. 20:54Skyland.
  673. 20:55>> I think it's I think it's half a
  674. 20:57Skyland. Um so you know it's still
  675. 21:00definitely on the the leaner, brighter
  676. 21:02DFHRTF style or DF style a flat. Yeah.
  677. 21:06Flat in echoing chamber. But um for 100
  678. 21:10bucks, eh, it's you know these are
  679. 21:12>> there aren't many other options at that
  680. 21:14price.
  681. 21:15>> But subwoofer is quite literally the
  682. 21:17probably the most important thing other
  683. 21:19than speakers. So
  684. 21:20>> what's great about it being $100 is that
  685. 21:22you do have then more left over to get
  686. 21:24like a sub and maybe a measurement
  687. 21:26microphone. Yeah.
  688. 21:27>> Yeah. No, I'd love to see them develop a
  689. 21:28subwoofer to like a companion subwoofer
  690. 21:30to go with these speakers
  691. 21:32>> cuz then that would make it a more
  692. 21:34compelling package. And I think
  693. 21:35>> especially if it's similarly like small
  694. 21:37>> like low extended.
  695. 21:38>> Exactly. Yeah. Then that would work
  696. 21:40really well.
  697. 21:40>> It's called a subpack.
  698. 21:42>> Yeah, you could do a subpack with it
  699. 21:44>> cuz cuz that's not DGEN as Anyways, the
  700. 21:46the Moonrop speaker is uh okay.
  701. 21:49>> $500.
  702. 21:50>> Okay. It's okay. All right, moving on.
  703. 21:53So, these were just the products that we
  704. 21:54got to try at the show. They will also
  705. 21:56be releasing a number of inears like the
  706. 21:58Chew 3 as well as another collab with
  707. 22:00Critical called the Silicon, which I
  708. 22:02will be reviewing shortly. They also
  709. 22:04have some exciting new true wireless
  710. 22:06stuff in the works as well, and I'll
  711. 22:08hopefully be getting that stuff in. So,
  712. 22:09make sure you guys are subscribed to the
  713. 22:11channel if you're interested in seeing
  714. 22:12those videos. But that's going to do it
  715. 22:14for this one. As always, thanks for
  716. 22:15taking the time to watch this video, and
  717. 22:16I'll see you guys in the next one. Bye
  718. 22:18for now.

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