How I Find Low-Competition Keywords That Actually Convert — Transcript
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- 0:00A lot of SEOs hate keyword research. I
- 0:02never actually understood that cuz I
- 0:04love keyword research. For me, it's one
- 0:06of the most fun things to do. I'm going
- 0:07to share how I do keyword research or
- 0:09some of the ways that I do keyword
- 0:11research, what's most important to me,
- 0:13what I look for in the search engine
- 0:15results pages in the SERs. But I really
- 0:17like doing it. I learn when I do keyword
- 0:20research, I learn what the streets want.
- 0:22I learn what language to use to describe
- 0:24the niche. I can go into any niche and
- 0:27become kind of fluent in the niche very
- 0:29fast just from doing good keyword
- 0:31research. I learn what people care about
- 0:33which informs my products and services.
- 0:36So I can actually make things that
- 0:38people want. I learn what is most
- 0:40important to searchers and I can make
- 0:41pages that target keywords then go
- 0:44deeper into what the searchers actually
- 0:46want on these pages to reduce pogo
- 0:49sticking and then to move searchers into
- 0:50my funnel. I every time I do keyword
- 0:53research, I walk away inspired. I walk
- 0:55away inspired and I feel good because I
- 0:57see that most niches are way less
- 1:00competitive than maybe like I would
- 1:02initially think. And if you're thinking
- 1:04about going into a niche or you're
- 1:06struggling with your niche and you just
- 1:07spend an hour or two actually really
- 1:09looking at the keywords in the niche,
- 1:11going deeper into finding creative
- 1:13keywords, you might do this and then
- 1:15walk away too thinking, "Wow, this is
- 1:17actually a lot more attainable.
- 1:19dominating this niche is a lot more
- 1:21attainable than I thought. And that's
- 1:22how I feel when I walk away from doing
- 1:24keyword research. I feel, wow, I can't
- 1:27wait to dominate the SEO in this niche.
- 1:30So, the most important thing for me when
- 1:32I start doing keyword research is
- 1:34looking at what competitors are ranking
- 1:36for, and I I don't even know if I would
- 1:38actually call them competitors. I would
- 1:40instead say sites that kind of know what
- 1:43they are doing with keyword targeting.
- 1:45What you do is you start by having a
- 1:47bunch of keywords or just like ideas for
- 1:49search terms. And I'll get into that in
- 1:51a moment. You put in one of these search
- 1:52terms. You see the sites that come up
- 1:54and what you specifically want to look
- 1:56for is a site that has that keyword in
- 2:00the page title and the URL slug. If you
- 2:03look at enough of these sites, you will
- 2:05find that one of them is actually doing
- 2:07SEO. Because if you want to do SEO, take
- 2:09your keyword, put in the page title, put
- 2:11it in the URL slug. You should also put
- 2:13it in the H1, the beginning of the first
- 2:15sentence. But I mean, a lot of sites in
- 2:17the first place don't even know to take
- 2:19your keyword and put it in the page
- 2:20title and the URL slug. If you see that,
- 2:23you look at a few sites, eventually you
- 2:24will find one that is ranking for a
- 2:26decent number of keywords. Maybe they
- 2:28just know how to describe themselves
- 2:30properly. Or maybe they are actually
- 2:32doing SEO. And then you start seeing
- 2:34what these sites are ranking for. And
- 2:36then you start picking keywords out that
- 2:38are relevant to you. Oh, that's relevant
- 2:40to me. That's relevant to me. that's
- 2:41relevant to me. That's relevant to me.
- 2:43Now you have tons more keywords to go
- 2:46down the rabbit hole and look at. If
- 2:47you've been listening to the show for a
- 2:49while, you know that I like to
- 2:50prioritize keywords that are closer to
- 2:52the bottom of the funnel, which means
- 2:54the people who are searching them are
- 2:55literally looking to convert. They know
- 2:58what they want. They're just looking for
- 2:59the brand to give them what they want.
- 3:00These keywords are a lot easier to rank
- 3:02for as well because they're usually
- 3:05undertargeted. These are the types of
- 3:06keywords where a lot of people aren't
- 3:08actually going after them deliberately
- 3:10by putting these keywords in their page
- 3:12titles and their URL slugs. I will just
- 3:14start basically by thinking of a generic
- 3:17keyword in my niche. What is my niche?
- 3:20What does my product do? What is my
- 3:22product? What does my service do? What
- 3:24is the service? I'll put that into a
- 3:26keyword research tool. I will look at
- 3:28the sites that come up and again I will
- 3:30look for sites that are targeting that
- 3:33keyword somewhat properly. If I can't
- 3:35think of generic keywords in my niche,
- 3:37and that happens sometimes. Sometimes I
- 3:39get writer's block like anybody, I'll
- 3:41just go to ChhatPT. I will literally
- 3:43just speak to Chacht for a full couple
- 3:46of minutes, have my voice transcribed,
- 3:49say, you know, this is what I'm doing.
- 3:51This is what my service does. This is
- 3:52what my products do. I am looking for
- 3:54searchers who they know what they want,
- 3:56but they don't know the brand that can
- 3:58give them what they want. They're
- 3:59looking for solutions. They are
- 4:01searching. They're they're not doing
- 4:02like best x fory keywords. They're
- 4:05literally just like putting in their
- 4:06problems into Google. Give me some
- 4:08problems that they might be putting into
- 4:10Google. Maybe they have an idea for the
- 4:13product that they want. What kind of
- 4:14products might they search for? Give me
- 4:16some ideas. And then I will have a whole
- 4:18list of generic keywords. Chachi PT is
- 4:21very good at thinking of generic
- 4:22keywords to start with. And then I will
- 4:24go into those. And again, I will try to
- 4:26find sites that kind of know what they
- 4:27are doing with keyword targeting. Often
- 4:29what you see is they are targeting some
- 4:31keywords correctly, but they're not
- 4:33doing it fully well and they're ranking
- 4:35for lots of other keywords accidentally
- 4:38that are very relevant to you that they
- 4:40are not targeting at all. I love seeing
- 4:43that. It gets me feeling and then you go
- 4:44and look at the SER and the SER is just
- 4:46not targeted at all. Gets me feeling so
- 4:48inspired. Another place to start, easy
- 4:51place to start, Google Search Console.
- 4:52Look at the keywords that you're ranking
- 4:54for. pick out the ones that are closer
- 4:56to the bottom of the funnel or that seem
- 4:58lucrative and say which ones are am I
- 5:01not targeting properly. Can I insert
- 5:03these keywords into existing content or
- 5:05do I not have any existing content
- 5:07that's relevant enough? Should I create
- 5:08new content for these keywords? Another
- 5:10place to look, this one is pretty
- 5:12diabolical. I actually love this. I've
- 5:14done this multiple times. See how
- 5:16competitors represent themselves? First
- 5:18of all, a lot of competitors, they don't
- 5:20represent themselves with actual
- 5:22keywords, but they have they're trying
- 5:24to create a niche, which is very common
- 5:26in the startup world. It's a world that
- 5:27I play in a lot, the startup world. And
- 5:29competitors are trying to create a
- 5:31niche, and they're trying to claim a
- 5:33niche, but they don't know how to do
- 5:35SEO. I know how to do SEO. I will create
- 5:37a page for the niche that they are
- 5:39trying to create, and then when people
- 5:41search for that niche that they are
- 5:42trying to create, I show up number one
- 5:44and not them. I love doing that. But
- 5:45also, they might not even realize it
- 5:47that there is actually a search term for
- 5:49that niche. And they're describing the
- 5:51niche in a different way than most
- 5:53searchers are actually describing the
- 5:54niche. And by literally just doing some
- 5:57keyword research, you find the synonym
- 5:59that everyone is searching for to find
- 6:01the niche that they are doing a bad job
- 6:03of describing. And then you make a page
- 6:05for that niche. You target the niche.
- 6:06The the keyword is in the page title.
- 6:08It's in the URL slug. It's in the
- 6:10beginning of the first sentence in the
- 6:12H1. Metad description is optional, but I
- 6:14like to put the keyword at the beginning
- 6:16of the metad description. This is what I
- 6:18look for in a SER when I am actually
- 6:20doing keyword research and looking at
- 6:22the search engine results pages. This is
- 6:24what I'm looking for. Again, keyword is
- 6:26not in the page title or the URL slugs.
- 6:28I want to see that people are not
- 6:29targeting this keyword adequately
- 6:31because it just means that if I make a
- 6:33relevant page, it's going to be very
- 6:35easy for me to rank well for it. I want
- 6:37to see low domain authorities relative
- 6:40to my site's domain authority. If I had
- 6:42a new site, I would want to see very low
- 6:45domain authorities in the SER or at
- 6:46least one low domain authority in the
- 6:49SER. If you can see one low domain
- 6:50authority in the SER and not a lot of
- 6:53pages targeting that keyword, it's
- 6:55usually pretty certain that if you just
- 6:57target the keyword properly because
- 6:59other people aren't and because the SER
- 7:01is allowing low domain authorities, then
- 7:04you can rank well for that keyword. So,
- 7:06I like to see undertargeted or low
- 7:08domain authorities. There's a lot of
- 7:09keywords out there. There's a lot of
- 7:10search terms out there. There's a lot of
- 7:12people searching in different ways. You
- 7:14don't need to go after the most high
- 7:16volume keywords immediately. You can
- 7:18start building up your site for relevant
- 7:20bottom offunnel, lower volume keywords.
- 7:23And a lot of bottom offunnel keywords
- 7:24are just naturally lower volume because
- 7:26there's less people at the bottom of the
- 7:27funnel. You're ranking for these
- 7:28keywords. You're building your
- 7:29authority. Now you can go after higher
- 7:31volume, more competitive keywords.
- 7:33Competitive means that more people are
- 7:34targeting them and that there's higher
- 7:36domain authorities. Something else that
- 7:37I look at in SERs in the search engine
- 7:40results pages is maybe there actually
- 7:43are sites that are targeting the keyword
- 7:45properly, but the pages are very thin.
- 7:48And you look at these pages and then you
- 7:49go, hm, I think this might not really
- 7:51satisfy search intent well and I can
- 7:54create a page very easily that will
- 7:56satisfy search intent better. Often
- 7:58that's just including more thorough
- 8:00content. And by putting up more thorough
- 8:02content, I can rank above this page that
- 8:04has thin content because it has similar
- 8:07authority to mine. Basically, a longer,
- 8:09deeper page on the subject matter is
- 8:12more relevant than a shorter page on the
- 8:14subject matter. If you're going deeper
- 8:16into the subject matter, you are more
- 8:17relevant. Google and search engines like
- 8:20relevance. Something else I look for,
- 8:21low topical authority. Is the site that
- 8:24this page is ranking on, is it actually
- 8:26related to the keyword? If the answer is
- 8:28no and my site is related to the
- 8:31keyword, I might have a easier time
- 8:32ranking for it or low onpage relevance.
- 8:35The page is targeting the keyword, but
- 8:37that page isn't really relevant to the
- 8:39keyword. That also might have higher
- 8:41pogo sticking. I'm always thinking
- 8:43through, is this page likely to have
- 8:46high pogo sticking? Can I satisfy search
- 8:48intent better so people don't pogo stick
- 8:50on my content? The biggest indicators
- 8:52though are that there is a page title
- 8:55and URL slug that is just not that
- 8:57doesn't have the keyword in it. You see
- 8:59that it means it's not relevant. It's
- 9:01not very relevant and it's very easy for
- 9:02you to beat the pages in the search
- 9:05engine results page because they aren't
- 9:07targeting the keyword. Google wants to
- 9:09serve searchers content that is
- 9:11targeting the keywords or low domain
- 9:13authorities. Though you don't
- 9:15necessarily need this if there is nobody
- 9:18in the search engine results page with
- 9:20any pages remotely relevant and all you
- 9:22have to do is come in there and make a
- 9:24relevant page. But again, I love doing
- 9:26this because I learn what people in my
- 9:29niche want. I can create content a lot
- 9:32easier than them. I can go into any
- 9:34niche and understand it. It helps me
- 9:36improve my products and services and I
- 9:38just get really inspired and walk away
- 9:40happy. I'm like, "Wow, this niche is way
- 9:42easier than I originally thought." It's
- 9:45crazy to me. I have so many people who
- 9:47come on this show and they tell me that
- 9:49they are automating keyword research,
- 9:52completely automating keyword research.
- 9:54And I think it is a massive opportunity
- 9:57that people miss when they are trying to
- 9:59fully automate keyword research. I think
- 10:01it's just such a tremendous opportunity
- 10:03for people who are willing to manually
- 10:04go into the SERs, who are manually
- 10:06willing to see what other websites are
- 10:08ranking for to think creatively which
- 10:10keywords are relevant to you and you get
- 10:12a great sense of what people want and
- 10:15what people are looking for. So, I love
- 10:17actually really like doing keyword
- 10:19research. It's super fun for me and
- 10:20that's why I wanted to make this
- 10:21episode. I find that a lot of people
- 10:23hate keyword research. Hopefully, by
- 10:25talking about it, you go, "Oh, you know,
- 10:26this actually sounds pretty good." And
- 10:28then you can think about looking at
- 10:30keywords in the way that I think about
- 10:31looking at keywords. So I wanted to do
- 10:33this. If you want to see me doing
- 10:35keyword research, I do it for two hours
- 10:37in my SEO course, compact keywords,
- 10:39there's a 2hour section called finding
- 10:41compact keywords. These are finding
- 10:42bottom of funnel keywords that are
- 10:44typically undertargeted. But just how I
- 10:47go about finding keywords, what I'm
- 10:48looking for, seeing how I think through
- 10:51things, and seeing me looking at actual
- 10:54SERs, seeing the tools that I use, I've
- 10:56seen everything. And that's in my SEO
- 10:57course, compactkeywords.com.
- 10:59It's getting crazy testimonials. If you
- 11:01have a team, you can get it for your
- 11:03team. I love this testimonial from John
- 11:05Ray.
- 11:06>> Give Edward's framework in the course to
- 11:08one of your motivated junior employees.
- 11:10Have them follow it exactly as he's laid
- 11:13out. And your employee is going to gain
- 11:15a power skill that will serve them for
- 11:17the rest of their career. You don't have
- 11:19to do anything. and you're going to gain
- 11:21a six-figure, you know, SEO level
- 11:24employee just by having them go through
- 11:26this course. So, I've really enjoyed it.
- 11:29Edward, thanks for putting something
- 11:30together that feels practical, that
- 11:32feels new. We've gone through a lot of
- 11:34SEO courses over the last decade, and
- 11:36this one definitely had a lot of fresh
- 11:38stuff for us that felt relevant. Anyhow,
- 11:40see y'all later. Bye.
- 11:41>> Again, that's at compact keywords.com.
- 11:43This is episode 964 of the Edward Show.
- 11:46964 days in a row doing this podcast.
- 11:49Got a lot of awesome SEO guests coming
- 11:52up this week. It's going to be a fun
- 11:55next couple of days. If you watch this
- 11:57episode on YouTube, thank you so much
- 11:58for watching. If you listened on Spotify
- 12:01or Apple Podcasts, thank you so much for
- 12:03listening and I will talk to you again
- 12:05tomorrow. Bye now.
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