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How I Find Low-Competition Keywords That Actually Convert — Transcript

by Edward Sturm · 2,537 words · 359 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:00A lot of SEOs hate keyword research. I
  2. 0:02never actually understood that cuz I
  3. 0:04love keyword research. For me, it's one
  4. 0:06of the most fun things to do. I'm going
  5. 0:07to share how I do keyword research or
  6. 0:09some of the ways that I do keyword
  7. 0:11research, what's most important to me,
  8. 0:13what I look for in the search engine
  9. 0:15results pages in the SERs. But I really
  10. 0:17like doing it. I learn when I do keyword
  11. 0:20research, I learn what the streets want.
  12. 0:22I learn what language to use to describe
  13. 0:24the niche. I can go into any niche and
  14. 0:27become kind of fluent in the niche very
  15. 0:29fast just from doing good keyword
  16. 0:31research. I learn what people care about
  17. 0:33which informs my products and services.
  18. 0:36So I can actually make things that
  19. 0:38people want. I learn what is most
  20. 0:40important to searchers and I can make
  21. 0:41pages that target keywords then go
  22. 0:44deeper into what the searchers actually
  23. 0:46want on these pages to reduce pogo
  24. 0:49sticking and then to move searchers into
  25. 0:50my funnel. I every time I do keyword
  26. 0:53research, I walk away inspired. I walk
  27. 0:55away inspired and I feel good because I
  28. 0:57see that most niches are way less
  29. 1:00competitive than maybe like I would
  30. 1:02initially think. And if you're thinking
  31. 1:04about going into a niche or you're
  32. 1:06struggling with your niche and you just
  33. 1:07spend an hour or two actually really
  34. 1:09looking at the keywords in the niche,
  35. 1:11going deeper into finding creative
  36. 1:13keywords, you might do this and then
  37. 1:15walk away too thinking, "Wow, this is
  38. 1:17actually a lot more attainable.
  39. 1:19dominating this niche is a lot more
  40. 1:21attainable than I thought. And that's
  41. 1:22how I feel when I walk away from doing
  42. 1:24keyword research. I feel, wow, I can't
  43. 1:27wait to dominate the SEO in this niche.
  44. 1:30So, the most important thing for me when
  45. 1:32I start doing keyword research is
  46. 1:34looking at what competitors are ranking
  47. 1:36for, and I I don't even know if I would
  48. 1:38actually call them competitors. I would
  49. 1:40instead say sites that kind of know what
  50. 1:43they are doing with keyword targeting.
  51. 1:45What you do is you start by having a
  52. 1:47bunch of keywords or just like ideas for
  53. 1:49search terms. And I'll get into that in
  54. 1:51a moment. You put in one of these search
  55. 1:52terms. You see the sites that come up
  56. 1:54and what you specifically want to look
  57. 1:56for is a site that has that keyword in
  58. 2:00the page title and the URL slug. If you
  59. 2:03look at enough of these sites, you will
  60. 2:05find that one of them is actually doing
  61. 2:07SEO. Because if you want to do SEO, take
  62. 2:09your keyword, put in the page title, put
  63. 2:11it in the URL slug. You should also put
  64. 2:13it in the H1, the beginning of the first
  65. 2:15sentence. But I mean, a lot of sites in
  66. 2:17the first place don't even know to take
  67. 2:19your keyword and put it in the page
  68. 2:20title and the URL slug. If you see that,
  69. 2:23you look at a few sites, eventually you
  70. 2:24will find one that is ranking for a
  71. 2:26decent number of keywords. Maybe they
  72. 2:28just know how to describe themselves
  73. 2:30properly. Or maybe they are actually
  74. 2:32doing SEO. And then you start seeing
  75. 2:34what these sites are ranking for. And
  76. 2:36then you start picking keywords out that
  77. 2:38are relevant to you. Oh, that's relevant
  78. 2:40to me. That's relevant to me. that's
  79. 2:41relevant to me. That's relevant to me.
  80. 2:43Now you have tons more keywords to go
  81. 2:46down the rabbit hole and look at. If
  82. 2:47you've been listening to the show for a
  83. 2:49while, you know that I like to
  84. 2:50prioritize keywords that are closer to
  85. 2:52the bottom of the funnel, which means
  86. 2:54the people who are searching them are
  87. 2:55literally looking to convert. They know
  88. 2:58what they want. They're just looking for
  89. 2:59the brand to give them what they want.
  90. 3:00These keywords are a lot easier to rank
  91. 3:02for as well because they're usually
  92. 3:05undertargeted. These are the types of
  93. 3:06keywords where a lot of people aren't
  94. 3:08actually going after them deliberately
  95. 3:10by putting these keywords in their page
  96. 3:12titles and their URL slugs. I will just
  97. 3:14start basically by thinking of a generic
  98. 3:17keyword in my niche. What is my niche?
  99. 3:20What does my product do? What is my
  100. 3:22product? What does my service do? What
  101. 3:24is the service? I'll put that into a
  102. 3:26keyword research tool. I will look at
  103. 3:28the sites that come up and again I will
  104. 3:30look for sites that are targeting that
  105. 3:33keyword somewhat properly. If I can't
  106. 3:35think of generic keywords in my niche,
  107. 3:37and that happens sometimes. Sometimes I
  108. 3:39get writer's block like anybody, I'll
  109. 3:41just go to ChhatPT. I will literally
  110. 3:43just speak to Chacht for a full couple
  111. 3:46of minutes, have my voice transcribed,
  112. 3:49say, you know, this is what I'm doing.
  113. 3:51This is what my service does. This is
  114. 3:52what my products do. I am looking for
  115. 3:54searchers who they know what they want,
  116. 3:56but they don't know the brand that can
  117. 3:58give them what they want. They're
  118. 3:59looking for solutions. They are
  119. 4:01searching. They're they're not doing
  120. 4:02like best x fory keywords. They're
  121. 4:05literally just like putting in their
  122. 4:06problems into Google. Give me some
  123. 4:08problems that they might be putting into
  124. 4:10Google. Maybe they have an idea for the
  125. 4:13product that they want. What kind of
  126. 4:14products might they search for? Give me
  127. 4:16some ideas. And then I will have a whole
  128. 4:18list of generic keywords. Chachi PT is
  129. 4:21very good at thinking of generic
  130. 4:22keywords to start with. And then I will
  131. 4:24go into those. And again, I will try to
  132. 4:26find sites that kind of know what they
  133. 4:27are doing with keyword targeting. Often
  134. 4:29what you see is they are targeting some
  135. 4:31keywords correctly, but they're not
  136. 4:33doing it fully well and they're ranking
  137. 4:35for lots of other keywords accidentally
  138. 4:38that are very relevant to you that they
  139. 4:40are not targeting at all. I love seeing
  140. 4:43that. It gets me feeling and then you go
  141. 4:44and look at the SER and the SER is just
  142. 4:46not targeted at all. Gets me feeling so
  143. 4:48inspired. Another place to start, easy
  144. 4:51place to start, Google Search Console.
  145. 4:52Look at the keywords that you're ranking
  146. 4:54for. pick out the ones that are closer
  147. 4:56to the bottom of the funnel or that seem
  148. 4:58lucrative and say which ones are am I
  149. 5:01not targeting properly. Can I insert
  150. 5:03these keywords into existing content or
  151. 5:05do I not have any existing content
  152. 5:07that's relevant enough? Should I create
  153. 5:08new content for these keywords? Another
  154. 5:10place to look, this one is pretty
  155. 5:12diabolical. I actually love this. I've
  156. 5:14done this multiple times. See how
  157. 5:16competitors represent themselves? First
  158. 5:18of all, a lot of competitors, they don't
  159. 5:20represent themselves with actual
  160. 5:22keywords, but they have they're trying
  161. 5:24to create a niche, which is very common
  162. 5:26in the startup world. It's a world that
  163. 5:27I play in a lot, the startup world. And
  164. 5:29competitors are trying to create a
  165. 5:31niche, and they're trying to claim a
  166. 5:33niche, but they don't know how to do
  167. 5:35SEO. I know how to do SEO. I will create
  168. 5:37a page for the niche that they are
  169. 5:39trying to create, and then when people
  170. 5:41search for that niche that they are
  171. 5:42trying to create, I show up number one
  172. 5:44and not them. I love doing that. But
  173. 5:45also, they might not even realize it
  174. 5:47that there is actually a search term for
  175. 5:49that niche. And they're describing the
  176. 5:51niche in a different way than most
  177. 5:53searchers are actually describing the
  178. 5:54niche. And by literally just doing some
  179. 5:57keyword research, you find the synonym
  180. 5:59that everyone is searching for to find
  181. 6:01the niche that they are doing a bad job
  182. 6:03of describing. And then you make a page
  183. 6:05for that niche. You target the niche.
  184. 6:06The the keyword is in the page title.
  185. 6:08It's in the URL slug. It's in the
  186. 6:10beginning of the first sentence in the
  187. 6:12H1. Metad description is optional, but I
  188. 6:14like to put the keyword at the beginning
  189. 6:16of the metad description. This is what I
  190. 6:18look for in a SER when I am actually
  191. 6:20doing keyword research and looking at
  192. 6:22the search engine results pages. This is
  193. 6:24what I'm looking for. Again, keyword is
  194. 6:26not in the page title or the URL slugs.
  195. 6:28I want to see that people are not
  196. 6:29targeting this keyword adequately
  197. 6:31because it just means that if I make a
  198. 6:33relevant page, it's going to be very
  199. 6:35easy for me to rank well for it. I want
  200. 6:37to see low domain authorities relative
  201. 6:40to my site's domain authority. If I had
  202. 6:42a new site, I would want to see very low
  203. 6:45domain authorities in the SER or at
  204. 6:46least one low domain authority in the
  205. 6:49SER. If you can see one low domain
  206. 6:50authority in the SER and not a lot of
  207. 6:53pages targeting that keyword, it's
  208. 6:55usually pretty certain that if you just
  209. 6:57target the keyword properly because
  210. 6:59other people aren't and because the SER
  211. 7:01is allowing low domain authorities, then
  212. 7:04you can rank well for that keyword. So,
  213. 7:06I like to see undertargeted or low
  214. 7:08domain authorities. There's a lot of
  215. 7:09keywords out there. There's a lot of
  216. 7:10search terms out there. There's a lot of
  217. 7:12people searching in different ways. You
  218. 7:14don't need to go after the most high
  219. 7:16volume keywords immediately. You can
  220. 7:18start building up your site for relevant
  221. 7:20bottom offunnel, lower volume keywords.
  222. 7:23And a lot of bottom offunnel keywords
  223. 7:24are just naturally lower volume because
  224. 7:26there's less people at the bottom of the
  225. 7:27funnel. You're ranking for these
  226. 7:28keywords. You're building your
  227. 7:29authority. Now you can go after higher
  228. 7:31volume, more competitive keywords.
  229. 7:33Competitive means that more people are
  230. 7:34targeting them and that there's higher
  231. 7:36domain authorities. Something else that
  232. 7:37I look at in SERs in the search engine
  233. 7:40results pages is maybe there actually
  234. 7:43are sites that are targeting the keyword
  235. 7:45properly, but the pages are very thin.
  236. 7:48And you look at these pages and then you
  237. 7:49go, hm, I think this might not really
  238. 7:51satisfy search intent well and I can
  239. 7:54create a page very easily that will
  240. 7:56satisfy search intent better. Often
  241. 7:58that's just including more thorough
  242. 8:00content. And by putting up more thorough
  243. 8:02content, I can rank above this page that
  244. 8:04has thin content because it has similar
  245. 8:07authority to mine. Basically, a longer,
  246. 8:09deeper page on the subject matter is
  247. 8:12more relevant than a shorter page on the
  248. 8:14subject matter. If you're going deeper
  249. 8:16into the subject matter, you are more
  250. 8:17relevant. Google and search engines like
  251. 8:20relevance. Something else I look for,
  252. 8:21low topical authority. Is the site that
  253. 8:24this page is ranking on, is it actually
  254. 8:26related to the keyword? If the answer is
  255. 8:28no and my site is related to the
  256. 8:31keyword, I might have a easier time
  257. 8:32ranking for it or low onpage relevance.
  258. 8:35The page is targeting the keyword, but
  259. 8:37that page isn't really relevant to the
  260. 8:39keyword. That also might have higher
  261. 8:41pogo sticking. I'm always thinking
  262. 8:43through, is this page likely to have
  263. 8:46high pogo sticking? Can I satisfy search
  264. 8:48intent better so people don't pogo stick
  265. 8:50on my content? The biggest indicators
  266. 8:52though are that there is a page title
  267. 8:55and URL slug that is just not that
  268. 8:57doesn't have the keyword in it. You see
  269. 8:59that it means it's not relevant. It's
  270. 9:01not very relevant and it's very easy for
  271. 9:02you to beat the pages in the search
  272. 9:05engine results page because they aren't
  273. 9:07targeting the keyword. Google wants to
  274. 9:09serve searchers content that is
  275. 9:11targeting the keywords or low domain
  276. 9:13authorities. Though you don't
  277. 9:15necessarily need this if there is nobody
  278. 9:18in the search engine results page with
  279. 9:20any pages remotely relevant and all you
  280. 9:22have to do is come in there and make a
  281. 9:24relevant page. But again, I love doing
  282. 9:26this because I learn what people in my
  283. 9:29niche want. I can create content a lot
  284. 9:32easier than them. I can go into any
  285. 9:34niche and understand it. It helps me
  286. 9:36improve my products and services and I
  287. 9:38just get really inspired and walk away
  288. 9:40happy. I'm like, "Wow, this niche is way
  289. 9:42easier than I originally thought." It's
  290. 9:45crazy to me. I have so many people who
  291. 9:47come on this show and they tell me that
  292. 9:49they are automating keyword research,
  293. 9:52completely automating keyword research.
  294. 9:54And I think it is a massive opportunity
  295. 9:57that people miss when they are trying to
  296. 9:59fully automate keyword research. I think
  297. 10:01it's just such a tremendous opportunity
  298. 10:03for people who are willing to manually
  299. 10:04go into the SERs, who are manually
  300. 10:06willing to see what other websites are
  301. 10:08ranking for to think creatively which
  302. 10:10keywords are relevant to you and you get
  303. 10:12a great sense of what people want and
  304. 10:15what people are looking for. So, I love
  305. 10:17actually really like doing keyword
  306. 10:19research. It's super fun for me and
  307. 10:20that's why I wanted to make this
  308. 10:21episode. I find that a lot of people
  309. 10:23hate keyword research. Hopefully, by
  310. 10:25talking about it, you go, "Oh, you know,
  311. 10:26this actually sounds pretty good." And
  312. 10:28then you can think about looking at
  313. 10:30keywords in the way that I think about
  314. 10:31looking at keywords. So I wanted to do
  315. 10:33this. If you want to see me doing
  316. 10:35keyword research, I do it for two hours
  317. 10:37in my SEO course, compact keywords,
  318. 10:39there's a 2hour section called finding
  319. 10:41compact keywords. These are finding
  320. 10:42bottom of funnel keywords that are
  321. 10:44typically undertargeted. But just how I
  322. 10:47go about finding keywords, what I'm
  323. 10:48looking for, seeing how I think through
  324. 10:51things, and seeing me looking at actual
  325. 10:54SERs, seeing the tools that I use, I've
  326. 10:56seen everything. And that's in my SEO
  327. 10:57course, compactkeywords.com.
  328. 10:59It's getting crazy testimonials. If you
  329. 11:01have a team, you can get it for your
  330. 11:03team. I love this testimonial from John
  331. 11:05Ray.
  332. 11:06>> Give Edward's framework in the course to
  333. 11:08one of your motivated junior employees.
  334. 11:10Have them follow it exactly as he's laid
  335. 11:13out. And your employee is going to gain
  336. 11:15a power skill that will serve them for
  337. 11:17the rest of their career. You don't have
  338. 11:19to do anything. and you're going to gain
  339. 11:21a six-figure, you know, SEO level
  340. 11:24employee just by having them go through
  341. 11:26this course. So, I've really enjoyed it.
  342. 11:29Edward, thanks for putting something
  343. 11:30together that feels practical, that
  344. 11:32feels new. We've gone through a lot of
  345. 11:34SEO courses over the last decade, and
  346. 11:36this one definitely had a lot of fresh
  347. 11:38stuff for us that felt relevant. Anyhow,
  348. 11:40see y'all later. Bye.
  349. 11:41>> Again, that's at compact keywords.com.
  350. 11:43This is episode 964 of the Edward Show.
  351. 11:46964 days in a row doing this podcast.
  352. 11:49Got a lot of awesome SEO guests coming
  353. 11:52up this week. It's going to be a fun
  354. 11:55next couple of days. If you watch this
  355. 11:57episode on YouTube, thank you so much
  356. 11:58for watching. If you listened on Spotify
  357. 12:01or Apple Podcasts, thank you so much for
  358. 12:03listening and I will talk to you again
  359. 12:05tomorrow. Bye now.

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