How I Actually Use Volume Profile (Orderflow + Execution Explained) — Transcript
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- 0:00All right, so today I want to talk about
- 0:02volume profile and how I actually use it
- 0:05in my trading. Now, you may see that I
- 0:07use volume profiles over sessions or
- 0:10maybe even a fixed range volume profile,
- 0:13but I'm sure a lot of you guys see if
- 0:15you're especially watching me trade
- 0:16every day that I'm looking at volume
- 0:18profiles inside of every single candle.
- 0:21Every individual footprint candle on my
- 0:23chart has its own miniature volume
- 0:26profile. So, I want to talk about how I
- 0:29actually use it in my trading because
- 0:31there really three different ways that I
- 0:34use volume profile. I use it inside of
- 0:37every individual candle,
- 0:39I use it for the session profile for
- 0:42regular trading hours,
- 0:44and I use it as a fixed range inside of
- 0:46an expansion leg or clear structure. But
- 0:49before we get into that, I do need to
- 0:52just clear up what a volume profile
- 0:54actually is. Now, let's take a quick
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- 1:58get back into the video. Now, a volume
- 2:01profile
- 2:03is a map of participation.
- 2:06So, it shows you where volume was
- 2:07transacted at each price level over a
- 2:10defined period of time. Now, in the
- 2:12context of auction market theory, it
- 2:14helps you see where the market accepted
- 2:18price and where it moved too quickly to
- 2:21build meaningful agreement, and that is
- 2:23really the core idea behind volume
- 2:25profile in general. Now, the market
- 2:27spends time and volume at prices where
- 2:30value is accepted and it moves quickly
- 2:32through prices where there was less
- 2:34agreement on value. And that distinction
- 2:37matters because it tells you where the
- 2:40auction slowed down and where it did
- 2:42not. And inside my framework, the way
- 2:45that I use this is volume profile lives
- 2:48inside location and confirmation layers.
- 2:51It's helping me validate where price is
- 2:53located actually has structural meaning.
- 2:56It's not just a random number on the
- 2:59chart, it's an area where real business
- 3:01was done or an area where the market
- 3:04moved too quickly to really do much
- 3:06business at all. Now, inside of every
- 3:09volume profile, you're generally going
- 3:11to see the same, you know, three or four
- 3:13things. You have the point of control or
- 3:16the POC. Now, this is the price or the
- 3:19price level with the highest traded
- 3:22volume inside that profile, and it's one
- 3:25of the strongest references to where
- 3:28participation concentrated. You also
- 3:31have value area, so that's where you see
- 3:33value area high and value area low. Now,
- 3:36this is the range within a volume
- 3:38profile where you're roughly going to
- 3:40see, you know, 70% of volume that was
- 3:43traded inside of that profile, and that
- 3:46gives you the accepted range for that
- 3:49profile or where most of the business
- 3:50was being conducted. And then you have
- 3:53high volume nodes and you have low
- 3:54volume nodes. Now, a high volume node is
- 3:57an area of prior acceptance. This is
- 3:59where the market spent time doing
- 4:01business, and when price returns there,
- 4:04the market may slow down, it may rotate,
- 4:07or it might spend time there again. It
- 4:09is essentially an area of agreement. And
- 4:12then you have low volume nodes where
- 4:16this is essentially an area of thin
- 4:18participation. This is where the market
- 4:21moved quickly and didn't spend much time
- 4:23there doing business. And when price
- 4:25reenters a low volume node, it can
- 4:28either move through quickly if imbalance
- 4:30is continuing or it can react sharply if
- 4:33the move into it fails. The level itself
- 4:35is information, but it's not a
- 4:37guarantee. And that's an important
- 4:40distinction to make because a lot of
- 4:42traders look at low volume nodes like
- 4:44they automatically mean continuation,
- 4:46but that's not how I use them. A low
- 4:48volume node is a candidate for movement
- 4:52where what price actually does there
- 4:54still depends on context and
- 4:56confirmation. Now, the first way that I
- 4:59use volume profile is inside every
- 5:03individual candle, right? Every single
- 5:05candle on my screen on a footprint chart
- 5:07as you can see
- 5:09has a miniature volume profile inside of
- 5:11it. What this is letting me see is it's
- 5:14letting me see where volume was
- 5:15distributed within this single candle.
- 5:18Now, it may be a 5-minute, may be a
- 5:2015-minute, sometimes I look at it on the
- 5:22hourly, but this is the most granular
- 5:25use of volume profile for me. And it's
- 5:28actually used majority majority of the
- 5:30time it's used at the execution level
- 5:33when it's inside of these 5-minute
- 5:34candles. Now, I'm not using these
- 5:36miniature volume profiles as a
- 5:38standalone signal to take a trade. I'm
- 5:41using it to refine execution once the
- 5:44broader setup is already there from the
- 5:46rest of my framework, right? What I'm
- 5:48really looking for here
- 5:50when I'm looking at volume profiles is
- 5:53I'm looking at effort versus result. If
- 5:56I see volume trading at a level, like
- 5:58let's say this candle where my mouse is
- 6:00right now, but price is not following
- 6:02through, it's not moving through it,
- 6:04well, this could potentially be useful
- 6:06information because it could be
- 6:08absorption. Now, it tells me that there
- 6:12is aggressive participation, especially
- 6:14at the extremes of these candles, but
- 6:16it's not getting the result that it
- 6:18should be getting. Now, this doesn't
- 6:20automatically when you see this mean
- 6:22that there is a reversal coming, it just
- 6:24tells me that something is happening
- 6:26here at this level. And when I see that,
- 6:29then I watch the reaction. And I may And
- 6:31it has to be in location and the rest of
- 6:33everything else has to align, but I'm
- 6:35watching the reaction that follows it.
- 6:37And when I identify absorption, I'm
- 6:40looking for aggressive participation at
- 6:42the extremes of a candle, like in this
- 6:44case, with little to no result in that
- 6:47effort. High participation with little
- 6:50continuation, whether we stall or we
- 6:53reject, I mean, it's very different from
- 6:55just seeing volume and assuming
- 6:57something is bullish or bearish. And if
- 6:59the volume is not really there, then I'm
- 7:01less interested in calling it absorption
- 7:03because at that point it's more likely
- 7:06the a lack of participation or
- 7:09exhaustion rather than true absorption.
- 7:12So, volume is very important, and that's
- 7:13why it's in every single one of my
- 7:15candles. Now, another thing I look at
- 7:18inside of a footprint candle is low
- 7:20volume nodes. So, for example, if we
- 7:22were looking at this candle, we have a
- 7:24volume profile here. It may be hard to
- 7:26see because it's blue on black, but here
- 7:28is a low volume node here,
- 7:31and here is a low volume node here. If
- 7:33this is the In the way that I take
- 7:36trades, it usually requires two candles.
- 7:39Now, it requires the confirmation candle
- 7:41and the entry candle. I am looking,
- 7:43let's just say because I don't want to
- 7:46go back and like try and find some type
- 7:48of perfect example or whatever, but
- 7:50because there's low volume nodes here,
- 7:52let's just say we're identifying
- 7:54absorption that's happening, and we are
- 7:56getting the confirmation that we may be
- 7:59seeing a potential reversal. Now, after
- 8:02the confirmation candle closes, I am
- 8:04looking for the entry candle to
- 8:07immediately pull back into the
- 8:09confirmation candle. Immediately, so
- 8:11open up and immediately pull back. And
- 8:13I'm looking for it to pull back into
- 8:15these areas with low volume nodes. Now,
- 8:17if there are stacked imbalances in this
- 8:19area, which there aren't in this candle,
- 8:21but if there are stacked imbalances in
- 8:22this area, then it's even better. But
- 8:24I'm using these low volume nodes inside
- 8:26of the confirmation candles to refine my
- 8:29entry in my entry candles. But again,
- 8:32low volume nodes inside of a candle is
- 8:35not necessarily the signal. It's just
- 8:37where I can sometimes get cleaner
- 8:39execution inside of the larger setup
- 8:41that I'm trying to trade. Now, the
- 8:43second way that I use volume profiles is
- 8:46through session volume profiles. And I'm
- 8:48specifically looking at the regular
- 8:50trading hours or the RTH session of New
- 8:52York open when I'm trading Nasdaq. I'm
- 8:55usually keeping it on the 1-hour chart
- 8:57and I'm looking at how the day is
- 8:58building and informing and building
- 9:00value in real time. I want to know where
- 9:03value area high is, where value area low
- 9:06is, and where the POC is sitting. And
- 9:08I'm looking inside of this profile for
- 9:10the day to understand where are there
- 9:13low volume nodes, and where are the
- 9:16areas where a lot of business was
- 9:17actually conducted or where are the high
- 9:19volume nodes sitting within the broader
- 9:22auction for the day. This is essentially
- 9:24giving me a bird's-eye view of where the
- 9:26market is accepting price during the
- 9:28session. If price is rotating inside of
- 9:31value, like we were doing here for a
- 9:33moment, then that tells me that the
- 9:35market is temporarily balanced. If price
- 9:38is leaving value and getting accepted
- 9:40outside of it, that tells me that an
- 9:42imbalance may be developing, and it's
- 9:46kind of easier to show you if we're
- 9:48watching this actually form throughout
- 9:50the day. Now, as this auction was
- 9:53actually forming today, well, value area
- 9:55started up here, but because of we're
- 9:58watching it kind of after the fact after
- 9:59it's already done. Well, now after this
- 10:02large move value area was distributed
- 10:04and now we have the POC sitting down
- 10:07here rather than it being up here where
- 10:08it was earlier in the session. But
- 10:11again, just because we touch into value
- 10:14area high or just because we touch into
- 10:16value area low, it's not a signal or
- 10:20even just the POC like a bounce off the
- 10:22POC. I'm not using it as a signal. The
- 10:25session POC is important because it's a
- 10:28valid reference to understand where the
- 10:30most amount of business was actually
- 10:31conducted during the session, but I'm
- 10:33not using it as some like guaranteed
- 10:36magnet, right? In balance conditions,
- 10:39price may rotate around it a lot. In
- 10:41trending conditions, price may ignore it
- 10:43completely. So, I use it as reference.
- 10:45It's not necessarily a promise of
- 10:47anything. Now, the third way that I use
- 10:49volume profile is I'm using a fixed
- 10:52range volume profile. Now, how does that
- 10:54actually look? So, let's say we go back
- 10:56on this side of the chart and we want to
- 10:58see
- 10:59how the auction was actually developing
- 11:01within a specific expansion leg. Now,
- 11:04let's talk about from here to here
- 11:06towards the end of the day. Now, what
- 11:08I'll do sometimes is I will go here. I
- 11:11will draw a volume profile from swing
- 11:14high to swing low and extend it.
- 11:16And so, we get basically the same thing,
- 11:19but it's within a specific expansion leg
- 11:22or defined balance area or even a prior
- 11:25session range like London session or
- 11:28Asia session if I care to look at it.
- 11:30The reason I do this is because I am
- 11:33trying to isolate how volume was
- 11:36distributed over a specific leg or piece
- 11:40of structure. And usually I'm doing that
- 11:42over a clean expansion leg and I want to
- 11:44see where participation was thick and
- 11:47where participation was thin and and
- 11:49where the POC of that move is actually
- 11:51sitting. And this information can be
- 11:53useful as we watch price pull back into
- 11:56this move later on. So, the fixed range
- 11:59profile helps me frame location inside
- 12:02of structure. It narrows the zone, but
- 12:04it doesn't necessarily replace context.
- 12:07And that's really how I use these three
- 12:10methods together. The session profile
- 12:12sits in the broader context to
- 12:14understand how is the auction actually
- 12:16forming over the session that we're
- 12:17trading or the previous days. As we move
- 12:20into previous day regular trading hour
- 12:23sessions and the volume profiles that
- 12:26have been built previously or
- 12:27historically, and the fixed range
- 12:29profile helps me narrow location in the
- 12:33sense of a structural zone. And then the
- 12:35footprint candle when I'm zooming in
- 12:38on these candles and I'm looking at the
- 12:40volume profile within each of these
- 12:41candles, it's helping me refine my
- 12:44execution once everything else is
- 12:47already in place. Now, there are a few
- 12:49mistakes that traders will make when it
- 12:52comes to using volume profiles. The
- 12:56first mistake is treating low volume
- 12:59nodes like this as like automatic
- 13:01entries. Just because price moved
- 13:03quickly through an area doesn't mean
- 13:06that it's necessarily going to do it
- 13:08again or it doesn't mean that, you know,
- 13:11we're going to just automatically bounce
- 13:14out of a low volume node. A low volume
- 13:16node should just be treated as a
- 13:19location candidate. That's it. A
- 13:21location candidate. Somewhere where
- 13:23we're going to pay attention. It still
- 13:25needs context. It still needs location
- 13:28and it still needs confirmation. And the
- 13:30second mistake is using the wrong
- 13:32profile for the wrong job. Just because
- 13:34like the session profile is not and I
- 13:38don't use it for micro execution. The
- 13:41footprint candle itself is not used for
- 13:43broader auction or market context. Each
- 13:46profile has a time frame role, right?
- 13:49And that's how they work together in my
- 13:50stack and how I'm actually using these.
- 13:53And the third mistake which I see all
- 13:55the time when it comes to these types of
- 13:57candles like this or even just like
- 13:58session profiles is that traders will
- 14:01like over obsess on the POC. The POC is
- 14:04a great reference. And don't get me
- 14:06wrong, I use the POC all the time. And
- 14:08it can matter a lot in absorption
- 14:11scenarios inside of these, you know,
- 14:14miniature volume profiles and it can
- 14:16matter a lot in a balance condition
- 14:19in the broader context of the market.
- 14:21But let's say that during a trending
- 14:23environment, you know, price may never
- 14:26come back to it. So, if you treat it
- 14:28like a guaranteed target, you're going
- 14:30to potentially misread this. So, if I
- 14:33had to just summarize it simply because
- 14:36some people ask me like how am I using
- 14:37volume profile and I'm just trying to
- 14:39give a broad overview of what I'm
- 14:41actually looking at. Here's how I use
- 14:43volume profile. On the higher time frame
- 14:45in the session level, I'm using it for
- 14:47context. I want to know where value is
- 14:49actually sitting. I want to see where
- 14:51participation was being accepted and
- 14:53where the auction moved to quickly to
- 14:55actually build agreement. On the
- 14:57execution time frame
- 14:59on these candles, I use it to read
- 15:01effort versus result and to refine where
- 15:04I want to execute once the setup is
- 15:06already there. Now, I may look for
- 15:09pullbacks into low volume nodes. I may
- 15:11look for pullbacks into the POC of the
- 15:14previous candle and as long as it aligns
- 15:16with the rest of my framework then I
- 15:18take the trade. That's it. Volume
- 15:20profile
- 15:21is not a signal in isolation or a signal
- 15:26by itself. It's just a layer inside of
- 15:29the broader framework that I'm actually
- 15:31trading. There's a lot that actually
- 15:33comes before I'm looking at a volume
- 15:34profile. There's, you know, context in
- 15:37terms of market structure and bias and
- 15:39then understanding the environment we're
- 15:41in, looking at gamma, all these
- 15:42different things. But these volume
- 15:45profiles are just helping me understand
- 15:47where the auction accepted price, where
- 15:50it didn't, and where the execution could
- 15:52potentially be cleaner. So, before the
- 15:54session I'm looking at the prior
- 15:56sessions POC, the value area, the low
- 15:59volume nodes, the high volume nodes. And
- 16:01during the session, I'm watching it
- 16:03build for this RTH session in real time.
- 16:06And at the execution level, I'm using
- 16:08these miniature volume profiles to
- 16:11refine the entry after context and
- 16:14confirmation are already in place. And
- 16:16that is how I use volume profile in a
- 16:18nutshell. So, you guys have any
- 16:20questions, feel free to ask me in the
- 16:21comment section below.
- 16:23But I hope that kind of sums up a little
- 16:25bit or helps you understand a little bit
- 16:27about how I'm looking at volume
- 16:29profiles. I'm looking at value. I'm
- 16:31looking at acceptance. I'm looking at
- 16:33effort versus result. I'm understanding
- 16:34where the POC is at. I'm looking at
- 16:36value area, low volume nodes. I'm
- 16:38looking at high volume nodes. That's
- 16:40pretty much it. All right. Catch you
- 16:42guys next time. Peace.
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